Planes, Trains and Automobiles (1987) | Do You Even Movie?

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H in a world where podcasts reign
supreme. Two Friends dare to ask,

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do you even? Movie? Hosted
by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David

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Denyer spoiler alert, Steve Martin and
John Candy just made it please star play

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stars. They have nothing in common
except the next seventy two hours stick with

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me. Do you feel this vehicle
is safe for highway trap? Yes?

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I do, Steve Martin, there's
your other hand, John Cannon, the

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toll two tools, planes, trains
and automobiles. Those are a love.

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Hey, my friends, and welcome
to another episode, the inaugural Yes episode.

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We are setting sales. What's on
sale? What's on sale? Well,

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so you were near Black Friday because
it's almost American Thanksgiving kids, Rue,

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and I am your host, Enrique
Kuto here with my good buddy and

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co host Double D David de Noiyang
early, which, by the way,

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it is but the worst way to
show your thankfulness is to be French.

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Yes, so I'm afraid we're I'm
sorry about that. We're gonna have to

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ask you to leave, but no, no, we're here today to talk

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about Easily, one of my favorite
movies. I'm not a big fan of

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saying a movie is my quintessential favorite
or even the best movie ever. That's

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something I'm not comfortable with. But
this is, without a out, always

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in my top five, if not
always in maybe even my top three with

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stuff like Terminator two or maybe even
a Diehard depending on my mood. But

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I will say that, no matter
what my mood, I always love planes,

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trains and automobiles. It's I mean, it's it's a masterpiece in every

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sense of the word in my opinion. And it's also like a quintessential film

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to our friendship, like that's that's
what friendship held you and I's friendship.

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Yet Sun of a Bitch. Interesting
first I'm hearing of this? Oh is

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that as that a fact? So
there's no record of us, you know,

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doing anything in regards to possible you
know, buying t shirts together that

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were planes, trains and autmobiles,
or even doing a photo shoot with our

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good buddy Randy Jennings. Please no, David, just say it now.

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David and I one time years ago
we weren't feeling the holiday spirit. We

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were not, so we decided to
well, how do you do you know,

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how do you remember it coming?
I remember it coming about to where

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we were both having like really days, if not really shit weeks in November.

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In November November, and we were
I don't know if we had done

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our Thanksgiving marathon at this point yet
or not. I don't know if that

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was a thing or not. No, because at that point we were under

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the foolish belief that there were only
like three Thanksgiving abste right, yeah,

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And so I I was at work
and I texted you and I was like,

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what would you think about doing the
planes trains photo shoot? Because for

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one, that's an image that we
both cry whenever we see. But also

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he's referring to the image of John
Candy and Steve Steve Martin holding the trunk.

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Yeah, which we'll get to all
get all that, all the hits

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are coming right up. But yeah, So I texted you and your response

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back was if you can get a
trunk, we'll do it, you know,

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yeah, yeah, Because I was
like, if you if you can

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locate a trunk, yeah, which, because thing, what is the thing

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that you know you don't have laying
around is the is John Candy's incredibly memorable

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trunk, which I found out by
the way that John Hughes had it.

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I took it off set and had
it put in his office, like in

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one of one of his offices in
Wichita, of all places, had an

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office in Wichita, apparently, so
that was where it was. I found

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out that little tidbit of trivia,
that little nugget, little nugget, a

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little detail, but yeah, you
said if I get a trunk, we'll

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do it. And it just so
happened that I knew a couple of people

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and I texted one of them.
It's like I know a guy. I

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was like, Hey, do you
buy chance have like a just like a

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traveling trunk? And they're like,
I think I do. Why And I

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was like could I possibly borrow it? And they're like yeah, if you

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come get it. So I texted
you and I was like, we're on.

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And then I think it was the
next day, if not two days

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later, we met with Randy and
took all those photos. Yes, So

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once you found the trunk, I
immediately jumped into action, and I went

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to thrift stores and started finding the
closest thing I could find to John Candy's

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wardrobe. I ended up the only
thing I couldn't find was a big blue

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park up. Yeah, you wanted
to find the Parker. I ended up

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having to buy a brand new one, which was like seventy dollars. Yeah,

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and I was like, why have
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the only only thing you wanted was
the hat. I think the hat was

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the hat I had to buy.
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And we also, I mean,
see now I'm getting really nerdy. I

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had to decide which hat because he
actually goes through a few different different ones,

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So I chose the Aviator one with
the flaps, and yeah, the

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rest is history. We had all
these pictures done, and I don't know

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that that was a very wholesome moment
in our friendship. Absolute, but planes,

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trains and automobiles, in my opinion, not only the ultimate American Thanksgiving

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film, but one of the best
films of one of the greatest filmmakers of

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all time, John Hughes. Absolutely, I think clearly one of his best

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films and his first film to be
mature in that means. He was doing

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a lot of films with teenagers.
He was doing a lot of The Breakfast

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Club, and they were all great
films. But to have him have a

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space for John Candy and Steve Martin
was a big, big moment, big

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deal, and I mean, Planes, Trains and Automobiles is one of those

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movies that I didn't really fall into
a space with of like having it be

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in my mema repertoire of films probably
until my teens. I actually have I

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actually have an interesting story about my
first experience of the movie, which we'll

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get, which we won't talk about. No, well, I can't lie

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though. Actually I didn't see Planes
Trains for the first time until I was

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in my twenties. Okay, yeah, so it was not on the holiday

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radar, yeah, as it were. Well, and I think so many

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people forget that it's not a Christmas
movie, it's a it's a Thanksgiving movie,

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because I think it gets lopped in
with the Christmas lineup all the time,

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does it. I feel like it
does, because that was maybe that

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whenever I would go because there whenever
the Christmas movies would roll out at like

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Walmart or Meyer, I would always
go check out those because they'd have the

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displays of all of them. And
ninety percent of the time, yeah,

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you would find Plane Trains zomboils with
all the Christmas movies. Well, and

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I mean, I mean, it
is a holiday time movie. It's there's

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a lot of snow in it.
I mean, I think it could be

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enjoyed any time of year, but
of course you and I almost exclusively enjoy

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it on Thanksgiving evenings. Yes,
along with Dutch another John Hughes Penn highly

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Oh this one's that one's highly underrated. Plain Strains I think mostly gets the

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do at dessert. I think most
people really like planes trains. So and

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of course i'd be remiss if I
didn't invite our guests. Oh yes,

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yes, go get him my very
own Dell Griffith. That's John Candy's character

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in Planes Strains. My very own
del Griffith. What are they called now

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They're like it's it's it's a plush, but it's like a wrestling buddy plush.

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And the way that they marketed this, I'm not plugging it anyway.

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It was it was. It was
an Etsy thing. I know because it

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went out. They sold out in
three minutes. I remember because I was

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sitting in the parking lot of my
of my post office mailing something and I

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dropped everything I did to order this
little guy. But I remember in the

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marketing Oh yeah, I know you, but to but what they said on

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there that made me want him so
badly was they said, if you love

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planes, trains and automobiles as much
as we do, then here's somebody to

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give a hug to when the movie's
over. And I love it. So

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it's it's literally Dell in his outfit
with his red mittens. He's got his

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blue jacket, his scarf, the
details very got. His boots are undone,

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like they are during most of the
film. But I'll tell you I'll

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start with my planes train story if
you don't mind, Yeah, go ahead.

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So when I first saw planes trains
was during what I would call the

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dark times of my life. Yes, I like it. You're like,

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you're like, of course, of
course, because it seems like like not

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to put you on the spot,
but what it seems like you had a

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lot of great film discoveries during the
dark times. Even though the dark times

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refer to when you didn't see a
lot of movies. Well okay, okay,

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no, no, so those are
like cute dark times. There was

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like times when I did go no, no, I'm talking about dark times.

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Is in like there was a year
that I was unemployed and really depressed

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and basically and I'm not saying this
with any gravitas, but all I did

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was download movies. And I'm a
big believer that if you can afford to

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pay for movies, you should if
you, I mean, unless you're watching

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it, you know, on tub
or something. Yeah, but I would

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just download movies. And during that
period of time, I spent the holidays

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alone, so I watched The first
time I watched planes, trains and Automobiles

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was by myself in my bedroom on
my computer screen while I ate a turkey

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sandwich on Thanksgivings. Go ahead,
laugh, go ahead, loud. That's

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that's a hell of a way to
laugh. Two parents, I'm not gonna

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laugh. Wow, that's a new
one. I'm proud of you. Oh

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I've been saving that one for a
rainy day. Oh so no, but

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that was the first time I watched
it, and all I really remembered about

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it was how hard I cried at
the end, and that made me go,

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wow, this is a ten out
of ten. And then I bought

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it on Blu Ray like a year
later, and I started watching it every

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year. And but I think it
really hit its critical mass for me when

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you and I bonded over Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely, so that was a

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big moment for me. When you
and I would talk about it, you

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were like, no, it's like
one of the best movies ever, and

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I was like somebody else, Well, because I remember it. You used

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to basically signify the end of Thanksgiving
and start of Christmas with it, because

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you would decorate your tree while you
watched it. If I remember correctly,

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I did that a few ten times. Yeah, yeah, because I really

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can't even remember when the first like
actual Thanksgiving planes trains in Dutch double feature

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happened. But that was probably eleven
years ago. Is eleven years ago?

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I mean as of the recording of
this in twenty twenty three. Yeah,

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it was probably eleven. It might
have even been twelve. No, no,

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no, wait, actually it probably
was twelve or thirteen. Yet me

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think it would have been twenty thirteen. Okay, yeah, yeah, I

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ah, Enrique math I'm like,
who was I dating? That's how I

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know when it was so and real
quick. So, since you know that

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we are broadcasting quote unquote live,
yes, Dave, I want you to

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do this mine with me. Okay, hand on your microphone, yes,

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bring it over to the front of
your mouth more over over other way?

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Got it? Word you got it. Keep going, yeah, now point

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it towards now, Now, twist
it towards your mouth. There you go,

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Now go like now, go like
this and push your nose up and

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say I'm the podcast. No,
but anyway, so that all being said,

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it is the Thanksgiving time of year
when we're recording this. Yeah,

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I'm wearing my Thanksgiving Hawaiian shirt,
which people are always surprised about, believe

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it or not. As sad as
that story was, and I spent four

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I've spent four Thanksgivings completely alone,
which I can't really say I recommend absolutely

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yes, But that being said,
I am not I'm not black pilled on

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Thanksgiving. I like thanksgiving a lot
to what are you has to be thankful

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for? A good point just till
now now I have no explanation, but

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no, that's for you, Dave. So you want to hear my first

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experience of planes trains, which actually
wasn't what actually sold me on the movie.

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So actually, no, I was
in the middle of saying something,

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well, then go ahead. Actually
I was just going to say something.

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I think this will lead in to
your point. Okay, all I was

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going to say is I actually love
Thanksgiving. I love the concept of stopping

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all of the bs, yeah,
and being thankful for the things you have

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and I don't. And I love
Christmas very very much, and people are

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going to find that out as we
cover a bunch of Christmas movies in December.

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But I love Thanksgiving. I hate
when it gets overlooked. I like

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having a few weeks before we go
crazy with the Christmas stuff where everything gets

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to be yellow and orange and brown. And so that's all I really want

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to say is I love Thanksgiving.
I think that, and I think anybody

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who whenever I talk to somebody who
gets all like, well, actually the

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Pilgrims were blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah. Those people are so annoying

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because I have too many things to
say, so I'll just go with a

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very very simple Enrique is right and
also handsome, and if the voice of

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God says it, then it's true. But no, this is true.

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I love Thanksgiving and I think that. And I'm glad that we have a

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little movie that is heartfelt and fun
and memorable and stars excellent cast members and

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it's about Thanksgiving. Yeah, because
it could have just as easily been turned

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into a Christmas movie easily, very
easily. And by the way, there

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is a history of Thanksgiving movies being
turned into Christmas movies before they're made.

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Oh no shit, oh. One
of my favorite, actually one of my

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favorite modern Christmas movies, Almost Christmas. It was supposed to be Thanksgiving movie,

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which is actually Wow, here's the
thing, which is actually why movie,

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which is actually why Sweet potato pie
is a lead thing. Now,

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not that people not that people don't
eat sweet potato pie for Christmas, but

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that was it's much more a Thanksgiving
thing that totally makes sense. And then

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if you and also if you haven't
seen Almost Christmas, that is a movie

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that I cannot recommend enough. That
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that we stumbled into in theaters,
wasn't it. Well, you don't stumble

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into a movie in theaters? No, No. I saw the trailer in

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theaters with you. I was like, wow, this looks really fun,

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and then we went and saw it
and we really enjoyed it. Same with

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Christmas with the Coopers, Christopher the
Cranks, No, no, no,

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oh, Love the Coopers, Love
the Coopers, thank you, No,

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no, You're right. Love the
Coopers was another one. That came out

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around that time that I really enjoyed. But no, So, I mean,

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I understand. And as a filmmaker
who's I've made Thanksgiving movies and Christmas

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movies, there's a lot more money
in the Christmas movies, absolutely, and

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a lot more appeal the Christmas movies
can sell overseas, there are a lot

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more areas. I mean, nobody
celebrates Thanksgiving the way we do, and

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in the time period we do.
I mean even Canadian Thanksgiving. I mean,

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what do they have to be thankful
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in October and ours is in November, right around Christmas. So anyway,

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I just wanted to say big ups. I think Thanksgiving doesn't get enough love.

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And I put my money where my
mouth is. I made a Thanksgiving

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we called Awkward Thanksgiving. Yes you
did, and I'm still very proud of

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it because it was a movie about
families and togetherness and all of the good

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that good stuff. Do you even
movie will be right back, welcome back

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to do You even movie. So, but on that note, David,

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I sincerely would love if you would
please leave. Pretty sure you've heard this

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story. I'm just I'm not leaving. He didn't even listen, man,

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I swear no, no, I
would love to hear the story. I

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think you've heard it before. But
so then I then I'll turn off my

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head so so and then you'll leave. So it had to have been,

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uh, circa two thousand let me
thank you for a second. It had

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to have been either two thousand and
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by this point I had my my
permit or did I have my license?

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I got my license. I have
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like watching Boyhood. We're having a
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at this point, and our Hollywood
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I was allowed to go get dinner
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there was a turn to go the
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were like, make sure you take
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the interstate Way. And I was
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I totally did. Ah, he's
a bad son. So backing up

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a little bit, so I got
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By this point, I had really
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classics I hadn't seen, so I
had a list thanks to IMDb that I

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was kind of marking off, and
I know two titles in particular I got

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this round was Running Scared, the
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which I had never seen before.
I'd heard about it and I think

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I'd seen a couple of scenes on
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I got those two movies and I
go out and I cross on the interstate

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and I get into an accident.
I get into a fender bender. Oh

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my god, car, A car
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red light. So it's entirely my
fault. I mean I would have blamed

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you regardless. But yeah, long
story short. So I had my rentals

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I got I didn't end up getting
food because my parents got called. My

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mom had to come down with the
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week, like I know that I
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because I have to go get my
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then I don't really remember much else
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just in a state of mind that
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that point. So fast forward about
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like I said, and I got
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trains as with them and it's the
uh, those aren't those aren't pillows Edition?

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shit, I remember liking this,
but I couldn't remember a damn thing

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about it. So I bought it
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watched it, and I remember balling
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shot comes of them carrying the trunk
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on, I was like, this
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got so much into it, with
the heart, the laughs, and I

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mean, we'll get into all that. And that was basically when I was

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like, well shit, I really
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kind of bummed I hadn't seen it
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showing it to the family too,
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a long time. It was probably
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living together early on, so they
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watched it. Yeah, they were
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having a baby's too close to home. Let's let's watch this other one.

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what a frickin' phenomenal movie this is. And I mean, where do we

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start? I guess is the question? And a deeply rewatchable thing. Absolutely.

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planes, trains and automobiles? Yeah? Were you already a John Hughes fan?

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video cabinet that I've that I've mentioned
before, and we had a copy of

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The Breakfast Club. I grew up
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the USA t USA TV show.
Yeah, yeah, that made me want

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to find the movie. Yeah.
Actually, I think I think I knew

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about the TV series before I about
the movie, so that totally tracks.

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John Hughes early on, but I think

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I was mainly sticking to the staple
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Breakfast Club, Weird Science, and
like the other ones mixed in there

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that I can't think of all of
a sudden, Oh, pretty in pink

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and she's having a baby, like
we mentioned, so like I love she's

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having a baby. That's the one
that I think is underrated. Absolutely.

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I didn't get to those later ones
probably until the last decade, I would

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say, And in my honest opinion, I think Hughes is just unbeatable when

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it comes to a producer, a
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the dude's resume, which again i'll
get into here in a bit, is

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just absolutely NonStop. And I can't
understand why. I can't understand why people

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haven't seen a lot of his movies, especially Plainstrants has gotten his crack.

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But Hughes my generation, which is
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that point. He was known for
his writing and his producing because We Got

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Home Alone. Yeah, John Hughes
at his production company. Yeah, and

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I think that that's something really worth
mentioning too. That made him a household

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name to me. Also the Dennis
the Menace movie. Yep, yeah,

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he has his resume. Just to
give you a taste if you didn't know,

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I mean, director of sixteen Candles
in nineteen eighty four, Breakfast Club

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in eighty five, Weird Science the
same year, Theerris Bueller's Day Off,

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which actually has a lot of alumni
in this movie too. It's pronounced anix

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Alumnis She's having a baby in eighty
eight, Uncle Buck eighty nine, Curly

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Sue in ninety one. But then
people don't realize his writing credits. He

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did Mister Mom in nineteen eighty three, which is which actually I didn't know.

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Yah, was the first John Hughes
movie I loved, Yeah, because

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I caught that on Like Stars when
I was probably seventeen, and I loved

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it. Yeah, I really love
it. It's fantastic. And then National

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Lampoon's Vacation. He's the guy that
penned the Griswolds like he is the inventor

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of the Griz' that was the other
one. I was trying to think of

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that, like put him on the
map, and then producing what was pretty

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in pink and eighty six The Great
Outdoors eighty eight Dennis the Menaces Enrique mentioned,

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and then also one of my personal
favorites that I've really come back around

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to love even though it's pretty silly, is his remake of Miracle on thirty

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fourth Street. I love that.
Well, it's so good. I'm so

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sorry David that that the remake of
a movie about putting Santa Claus on trial

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was a little out there for you. It was more so the fact.

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Do you remember the text. I
think it was a couple of years ago

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when I was like, dude,
you should revisit Miracle on thirty fourth Street.

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And you're like, you're like,
is it good? And I'm like,

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it's really good. And then you're
like, it's a little silly,

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but it's a lot of fun,
and like I almost got offended. I

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was like, it's not silly,
like it's heart. Look I'm not I'm

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not when it comes to Miracle on
thirty fourth Street. I'm just saying I

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found it a little hard to believe. Yeah, like, how how did

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they get the death penalty off the
table so quickly in that courtroom. That's

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all I'm saying. Oh my god, I'm sorry, Santa, You're guilty,

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and this state we execute the mentally
challenged. I will say, if

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you haven't seen the original in a
while, that's become like a go to

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for me every year. I was
like a light version. I was blown

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away. Last year I sat down
and watched It's a Wonderful Life, so

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the first time and for even ever, not a Christmas movie. No,

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it's a snowy, heartfelt movie.
There's a little Christmas, there's a little

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Christmas a little bit. Yeah,
so but no, I think that that

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one. I'll allow that one to
be a Christmas movie simply because it always

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aired, it was synonymous with Christmas. It became very much synonymous with Christmas.

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That was a film that became for
a while public domain, and because

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of its public domain status, it
basically became a Night of the Living Dead

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was Halloween's public domain movie. And
then It's a Wonderful Life was Christmas's public

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domain movie. Yeah, and I
kind of love that, actually like it.

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And also It's a Wonderful Life was
very panned at the time, but

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maybe we'll cover that someday. So
John Hughes writes and directs planes, trains,

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and automobiles. Yeah, and he
was even quoted as saying he wanted

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to make a more mature film and
it's based off of the personal experience he

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had where he was actually in He
was either in Wichita or New York,

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but he had to get to one
and it took five days. I'm sure

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he had to get back to Chicago. Chicago, Yes, that's where he

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famously he had. It took five
days for him to get back and that

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was when he kind of got the
inspiration for it and penn the script in

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three days, mind you. Well, yes, I believe that. But

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Hughes had a lot of stories like
that about like writing whole scripts in three

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or four days. Yeah. I
think he really means the first draft.

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Yeah, but that's not me trying
to negate that the dude was genius.

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Oh, genius indeed, And also
not to mention the first draft one hundred

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and forty nine pages, which we'll
get to. Yes, because last year

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we were treated to something we thought
we would never get, which was all

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and I do mean all of the
deleted scenes we're missing one. Well,

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yeah, well when it's over an
hour, how long? It was fifty

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four minutes. Fifty four minutes of
movie that we didn't have before on a

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ninety three minute movie already h which
which I gotta admit as a filmmaker,

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there's part of me that doesn't want
to like that. Yeah, because there's

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part of its like but at the
end of the day, John Hughes thought

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this was the better movie. Yeah, Like you and I were talking before

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we started the show about how you
were mentioning, like, I wish that

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the John Candy stuff where he was
like pretending to be Elvis stuff, the

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bath I wish it was in the
movie. And my response was, I

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like that we didn't see him in
the bathroom much that way when Steve Martin

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goes to clean his face, ye
you know, spoiler alert that way when

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he cleans his face, you know, it realizes it's underwear and screens it

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hits better good. But that being
said, I'm a guy who will punch

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in the August twenty ninth, nineteen
ninety seven into my Blu ray of Terminity

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so that I can see the ultimate
cut that's everything edited back in Yeah,

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because there is for me, and
maybe this is this way for you.

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There is a point where I love
a movie so much that I kind of

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lose abjectivity, okay, and instead
of like having objectivity of like, oh,

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I really like this movie because it's
this. At some point, you

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fall so in love with the concept, you fall so in love with the

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backstory, fall so in love with
the characters, you just want as much

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of it as you can get.
Yeah, and that's it. Yeah.

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I feel that way about Terminator too. I feel that way about there's one

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other movie that Tremors. Well,
there's not a lot of extra stuff for

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Tremors. Oh, Gone to the
Dead. That's another film where like I'll

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watch the mall hours cut yea,
even though it's like a completely different film.

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Yeah, absolutely is. I think
honestly too, what goes into with

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the release of the deleted scenes was
it changed a lot of character motivations and

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just general attitude. I think that
there's a very clear reason that that they

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made those changes. Yeah, because
Dell is not likable a lot of the

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time. Yeah. But I'll also
I'll say this sincerely, I've done movies,

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you know, produced and directed movies
where my my character was the comic

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relief. I did this flick hold
alone in the Ghost House where my character

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was comic relief. Yeah, and
when we were editing it, we probably

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cut out seventy percent. You said
you cut the lines because the problem is

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when you're filming. Not problem,
but when you're filming, you want you

408
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.480
get as much wrong material as you
can. You don't. You don't sit

409
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:15.839
there and go like, let's not
tell that joke. You just roll the

410
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.200
camera and get it. But in
post, as you're watching it, you're

411
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:22.279
like, you know, it's kind
of exhausting and annoying this guy spouting jokes

412
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:26.000
every five seconds. But then you're
like, well, good news. We

413
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:30.240
can choose the best ones. Yeah, and we can take those and keep

414
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.839
those. Also, as you're watching
it on film or on video or on

415
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:38.799
screen or whatever, you get a
better idea of how it plays. And

416
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:42.079
I think that that's a major thing. I think John Hughes sat down with

417
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:47.440
that work print and was like,
it's a little much. He's coming off

418
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:51.319
as too much, but it is
fun. It's fun to feel like you

419
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:53.359
get to know the character is a
little bit better. Yeah, so let's

420
00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:59.880
let's get into it. So the
IMDb. The IMDb synopsis for Planes Reasonable

421
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.200
says as a Chicago advertising man must
struggle to travel home from New York for

422
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:07.680
Thanksgiving with a lovable oath of a
shower curtain ring salesman as his only companion.

423
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:14.200
Well, I mean lovable oaf indeed, here's my rewrite okay. Neil

424
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:17.359
Page played by Steve Martin is an
ad executive on his way home to Chicago

425
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:21.359
for Thanksgiving with his family when a
snowstorm strand him in Wichita with loudmouth but

426
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:25.279
well meaning shower curtain ring salesman Del
Griffith played by John Candy, who joins

427
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.799
Neil and adventure to help Neil get
home by any means or wheels necessary,

428
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:32.880
where hilarity ensues and through time Neil
may just find a new friend. Okay,

429
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:37.480
here's mine. Man goes home for
the Man goes home for Thanksgiving?

430
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:42.079
Almost doesn't there? You go,
Hey, I'll leave. That's fine if

431
00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:45.119
you don't mind, that would be
lovely. We would really appreciate it.

432
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.480
But no, no, no,
I mean that's a pretty solid way to

433
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.039
nail down the movie. Yeah,
And I think honestly, where you need

434
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.759
to start with this is understand where
these two huge stars are in their careers.

435
00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:00.559
So Steve Martin at this point has
done Serget Pepper's Low Heart's Band.

436
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:03.119
In seventy eight, he did the
Mundy David That's an album, that's not

437
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:06.519
a movie, it's a movie,
and he doesn't Alice Cooper song in it

438
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:11.880
too. Of Courss did the Mommy
Movie, Sallas Cooper did the Muppet Movie

439
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:14.799
in seventy nine, does The Jerk
in seventy nine as well, then goes

440
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.759
to do Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid
in eighty two, Man with Two Brains

441
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.079
in eighty three, Three Amigos in
eighty six, Little Shop of Horrors in

442
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:22.400
eighty six as well, and rocks
In in eighty seven. So at this

443
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:26.599
point Martin's on fire, so naturally
he is a big name grab for this

444
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.680
movie. John Candy is in The
Silent Partner, which is a movie I

445
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.319
want to show you soon. I
mean, I'm always down to watch them.

446
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.079
Steve Martin, John Candy, Oh
listen you mumble lot go on.

447
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:41.759
John Dandy Silent Partner in nineteen seventy
eight. Of course, Second City TV

448
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:47.240
in seventy six. He does appearance
in Stripes in eighty one. St famously

449
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:51.079
Yes, Yeah, that stood for
Second City National Lampoon's Vacation eighty three.

450
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:55.160
He does Splash in eighty four,
Brewsters Millions in eighty five, Summer Rental

451
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:56.880
in eighty five, also Little Shop
of Horrors in eighty six, and then

452
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:02.000
Spaceball's eighty seven before this, So
he hasn't even done Great Outdoors or Uncle

453
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:06.400
Buck yet. Well that makes wow. You know, that actually surprises me

454
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:12.759
because Dell Griffith is a character that's
so subtle but so like thick and memorable.

455
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:17.960
And when I say thick, I
mean like a tapestry. He's got

456
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.880
a lot of layers to him.
Yeah, I'm surprised that that came first

457
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.039
because I would almost imagine, you
know, Uncle I mean Uncle Buck's another

458
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:30.720
classic, another movie that'll really make
you love John Candy, although I I

459
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:34.960
mean I I've come close in the
past to liking Uncle Buck as much as

460
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:41.039
planes, but I'm just not quite
there unless we're talking about the Uncle Buck

461
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:51.799
TV series with Kevin Meane. Parents
are dead. I'm gonna flip a pancake

462
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:53.960
with a shovel. Also, we
miss your parents. Yeah, your parents

463
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:59.920
are gone. So but no,
that is an interesting thing. So he

464
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.880
was kind of he was on his
way up to a matt Well. And

465
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:07.920
it's also important to point out that
John Candy didn't never reached his piece.

466
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:12.000
No, Unfortunately, sadly he passed
away way too young in the nineties.

467
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:18.960
You probably haven't written down be so
he never even got to hit that massive

468
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.400
stardom he was heading towards, which
is it really is a shame. It's

469
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.079
a shame. And I mean he
left behind such a great body of work

470
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.400
though for us to enjoy. But
yeah, there is definitely pieces there still

471
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:30.599
of stuff you hear about, Well, he was going to be optioned for

472
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.440
this, or he was gonna be
up for this, and it's like,

473
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.119
I'm so mad we never got to
see him be Batman. Oh well that

474
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:45.079
would have been interesting. Hey you
could hurt me, God, you can

475
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:51.000
kill my parents, But I'm a
genuine article. What you see is what

476
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:55.200
you get. I have little bad
ears and no nipples on my chest piece.

477
00:31:55.279 --> 00:32:07.279
Yet do you even move? He
will be right back, welcome back

478
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:15.039
to do you even movie? And
I think honestly going back to Candy as

479
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:21.279
well, is just we have such
a lovable character with him in this movie

480
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.839
that when the tragedy strikes it just
hits you so hard with his character.

481
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:30.079
Yes, uh, that's what makes
the movie special to me. Yeah,

482
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:36.160
it's it is absolutely a tour de
force with these two. Their comedic timing

483
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.640
playing off each other, the chemistry
is just spot on. And I mean,

484
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.880
what I really really love most about
Plane Strains is it's a road trip

485
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.640
movie. But it's not like a
free road trip movie, like there is

486
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:47.279
an assignment in place, like they
have to go from point A to point

487
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:51.440
Usually road trip movies do have a
purpose, yeah, like of where they're

488
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:54.440
heading. Yeah, but this one, I mean, I know, I

489
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:57.920
know that I'm a little bit more
of a globetrotter than you. Yeah,

490
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:00.440
but have you have you ever failed
to get at home? Not that I

491
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:02.839
can recall right now, that's okay, that's okay. I mean it was

492
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.480
it the older you get, the
further well until you know a few years

493
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.799
ago with the airlines got a little
funky. But for a while, you

494
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:14.680
know, the older or the further
into time you got, the less likely

495
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.799
it was you'd have those incidents where
you just don't get home, but I

496
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.839
would be flying out of Chicago's really
bad because your O'Hair is right off the

497
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:29.440
lake, so you could literally be
told like and the runway's frozen. You're

498
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:30.759
like, how's it frozen already?
Like like effect, and you're like,

499
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:36.599
I guess I'm gonna die. So
I mean, I I've had those incidents.

500
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:38.640
I one time, I was coming
back to Ohio after a long stint

501
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:45.480
away and I was in West Virginia
visiting some friends. I needed a rest,

502
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.880
and I was. I was eating
dinner with them and a blizzard came

503
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.680
in that turned out to be about
ten times as bad as they thought it

504
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.000
was going to be. Oh god. Now when I say it was ten

505
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:59.839
times as bad, what I mean
is they were closing the on ramps to

506
00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:05.839
the highway. Holy shit. So
I had to jump in my car ditch

507
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:07.440
my friends, be like, thanks
guys for everything, thanks for the bye,

508
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:09.440
And they were all like, why
don't you just stay one more night.

509
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.280
I was hungry to go home.
I had I had been living away

510
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:19.679
from home for three years. I
missed my mother, I missed my friends.

511
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:24.039
So I jumped in my car and
drove as snow was pounding down,

512
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:28.559
and every time I found an on
ramp it was closed. Wow. I

513
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:32.599
ended up no joke in the pouring
snow driving on a one lane road through

514
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:37.280
a farming area. Yeah, found
an on ramp to the highway that hadn't

515
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.599
been closed, got up on there
and drove the rest of the way to

516
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:44.320
Ohio on Interstate seventy Jesus, And
when I stopped to get gas about two

517
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:47.239
hours later, Yeah, my car
was encased in ice. No, but

518
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:52.840
I mean like completely, Like I
had to take a knife and pop my

519
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.039
gas thing open in order to put
fuel in because it was it was a

520
00:34:55.159 --> 00:35:00.719
literal like it looked like a dome
of glass over the entire car. Wow.

521
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:02.920
So I had to sit there and
go wam and then and then when

522
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:06.880
it cracked a little, I would
take my knife and like and it would

523
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.039
thank goodness that Volkswagen had already been
through hell with me. But like,

524
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:15.119
there's things like that I've I've I've
had car trouble in the middle of nowhere

525
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.480
and had to sleep at the rest
area and wait for like that stuff happens,

526
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:23.599
and when it does, there's this
element. But the best part and

527
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:28.039
why I think he came up with
this, why I think John Hughes kind

528
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.800
of ran with this was whenever it
happened to me, when I wasn't alone

529
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:42.039
the amount of human experience. Let's
call it experience. Let's not call it

530
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:46.480
vicious insults, fights, aggravation,
that's fair. The amount of human experience

531
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:51.760
that came from it was he mets. Yeah, and I'm I'm off I'm

532
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:53.679
known as a Pollyanna. Yeah.
You know, I'm a very positive person

533
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:57.519
and I cannot tell you how much
that frustrates some people. Yeah, because

534
00:35:57.519 --> 00:35:59.519
we'll just be sitting there and they'll
be like, well, great, we

535
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:00.679
can't get we can't get back for
a whole other day. And I'm like,

536
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:04.440
at least the car has a heater, We're not going to be cold

537
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:07.280
tonight. And they're like, yeah, but there's nothing neat. I'm like,

538
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:08.920
I got three candy bars out of
the vending machine before I ran out

539
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:12.119
of ones. There you go,
and they're like, you know, and

540
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:14.239
I'm like, you can have two
of them, that's okay. Like that

541
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:16.400
is literally what I was like.
And this is back when like vending machines

542
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:20.159
didn't have credit card swipers, so
it literally be like all there is is

543
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:22.360
a vending machine and all you have
is the change on the bottom of your

544
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:23.800
car. Yeah, you know,
it's not even that you're broke it's that

545
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:28.920
you don't have access to cash.
So that's another reason I really like this

546
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:32.280
movie because I've traveled this country.
Yeah, many many times driving. I

547
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:37.679
actually have taken a Greyhound bus fifteen
sixteen hours straight if you were done the

548
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:42.159
greyhound. I've done a Greyhound once
and it's been a how far ago six

549
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.880
hours? Where'd you go Dayton,
Ohio to wear from Columbus to Michigan?

550
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:52.239
I believe close to like travers,
Yeah, travers travers. So I took

551
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:55.159
it from Dayton, Ohio to Rochester, New York. Shit, it's like

552
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:58.840
it's about it's like I want to
say, it's actually about eighteen hours.

553
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:01.360
Yeah, it was. It was
an experience that would imagine. That's why

554
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:04.320
I laughed so hard when we watch
it and he goes, have you ever

555
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.079
traveled with bus before? He's like
no, He's like, your's change.

556
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:09.840
It was probably not going to improve
so anyway, so sorry. But that's

557
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:13.679
that's why I think this movie connects
with so many people, and why I

558
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:19.159
could totally see an incredibly creative person
like John Hughes sitting there after that experience

559
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:22.039
and going I gotta like, literally, I bet you, I bet you

560
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.599
that during that experience on this.
On the first two days he was trying

561
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:27.559
to get home. I bet you
he was like, God, I miss

562
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:29.199
my wife, God, I miss
my kids, Like I can't wait to

563
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:30.480
see my wife. But I bet
you, by day five he was like,

564
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:34.000
I gotta get to my typewriter.
I gotta get to my typewriter.

565
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.519
I have to write a script about
this. So going back to Hughes in

566
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:39.280
our cast, would you like to
play the game of who was almost in

567
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:47.719
planes Trains that he was wanted?
Did you mean so? Supposedly Hughes wanted

568
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:52.119
Tom Hanks to play Neil Page and
John Travolta to play Del Griffith, but

569
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:58.760
the studio said no to Travolta because
he was quote box office poison at this

570
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:00.760
point. What did you have done
that point that made him box office poison?

571
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.639
I'm gonna guess it would have been
so for Paramount. Let's see if

572
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.519
this is eighty seven eighty seven,
So wait, man, because hadn't you

573
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:14.320
done like at that point, he
would have done blowout already done that,

574
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:15.000
right, that was a hit.
I would think, Yeah, let me

575
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:20.360
check, because I believe that he
I'm trying to think at this point he

576
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.360
would have been Grease would have been
his big one, of course, it

577
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:27.960
would have brought him. And then
in regard to the news for him,

578
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.920
yeah, I'm really curious why you
would be boxed to blow out in eighty

579
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:35.000
one, Staying Alive in eighty three, Too of a Kind in eighty three,

580
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:39.239
Perfect in eighty five, I remember
that movie. Look Who's Talking?

581
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:43.639
Is actually two years later eighty nine. Oh okay, so that was his

582
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:45.400
comeback. Yeah, Perfect was probably
the one that bombed him. That's the

583
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:50.199
one with him and Jamie Lee Curtis
is the Aerobics Instructors. Yeah, nobody

584
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:53.039
remembers that. No, it's rightfully
notoriously a bad movie. But then on

585
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:57.639
top of that, there was also
rumored to be Dudley Moore, Bill Murray

586
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.400
and Robin Williams for Dell. Really
you know, of all of them,

587
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.880
I can only see Robin Williams.
Yeah. And then this is the one

588
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:07.920
that kicks me. Is Chevy Chase
or Keaton for Neil Page. I could

589
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:12.679
totally see chevy Chase. I could
see Keaton as well, but I couldn't

590
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:15.440
see Keaton saying yes to that role
at that point because he was in there,

591
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:21.039
like listen, asshole, I'm about
to be bad. But like,

592
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:24.880
uh so, if let's say,
let's say he got Travolta to be Del

593
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:30.880
Griffith, and for those listening,
that's John Candy's role. I want to

594
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.199
make that clear to you guys in
case you know, not everybody speaks fluent

595
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:38.039
planes, trains, and automobiles.
What you do do you how do you

596
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:40.440
think he Well, first of all, I think Travolta could have done something

597
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:44.000
interesting with it, probably, yeah, because he's a very good actor.

598
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:46.599
But what do you think, like, would he be in a fat suit?

599
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:49.920
Do you think he would like have
grown a big beard or something like?

600
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:51.920
Do you think he would have tried
to hide that he was John Travolta.

601
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:53.719
See, I think at this point
Travolta is still Eye Candy, So

602
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:57.519
I don't know. Yeah, I
don't think they would fatten him up.

603
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:00.239
No, I think they would have
to have to make because it's not like

604
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.719
they cast John Candy in his you
know, his usual role. Yeah,

605
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:07.679
I mean because Candy is I mean, yes, he's the the wild guy

606
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:12.239
in this and Steve Martin's the straight
man. Yeah, but Candy is still

607
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:15.800
relatively subdued. I mean, it's
some of the best John Candy. The

608
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:22.960
thing. The thing that I love
about John Candy in this film is we

609
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:25.800
have all these movies where he's all
like wide eyed and goofy and you laugh

610
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:34.159
your ass off. Yeah, but
he there are multiple scenes in that movie

611
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:38.920
where his eyes tell the entire story. There's that part where remember when he

612
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:42.800
when they're in the hotel room toward
the end of the film and he says,

613
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.239
at the end of the day,
bare minimum, you have a woman

614
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:46.920
to go home to who loves you. And the way he like, he

615
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:50.960
likes smiled. He's like yes,
and he's like, but his eyes are

616
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.000
like way off. Love is not
a big enough word to describe it.

617
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:57.400
It's it's incredible. Yeah. And
also when he's sitting in the car alone,

618
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:00.079
just the scene before that, and
he says like, well, I

619
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.880
guess I screwed this up till may. I guess that's not gonna happen,

620
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.239
you know, Like he's such a
force to be reckoned with him. Yeah.

621
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.840
Absolutely, And Steve Martin, I
mean, he does a great job

622
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:15.440
in it, but I feel like
he got so many opportunities to be more

623
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.719
than what people knew him as.
Yeah. Obviously he also had like a

624
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.599
five times longer career. Yeah,
and nothing against him, it's just but

625
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:28.559
del Griffith is the heart and soul
of the movie. Yeah and yeah,

626
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:30.920
I'll get to my other point in
it. So because I don't want to

627
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:32.119
get I can get emotion. I
get it. I get it. So

628
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:36.880
let's let's get into the movie.
So we open with Neil Page is at

629
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:42.239
an executive meeting and he is sitting
with Ferris Muehler's dad in this office and

630
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.280
this guy is at the head of
the table, who is the owner of

631
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:46.920
the company looking at these two cover
shots. Well, he's the owner of

632
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:51.719
the company who hired his firm to
make a marketing marketing, and he can't

633
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:54.320
decide on these two covers. And
you see Martin is trying to basically leave

634
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:58.920
the office because he's got a ticket
for o'herry's gonna fly out at six and

635
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:04.880
the excis it's Monday, Thanksgiving Thanksgiving
today, so it be Tuesday, Tuesday,

636
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.320
yea ok. Yeah, So literally
he finds out that they're they're gonna

637
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.480
hold off until after the holiday to
make the decision. He rices off to

638
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:14.719
the airport and in doing so,
he has to catch a cab and that's

639
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:17.639
when we meet a very young Kevin
Bacon. Yeah, and they make eye

640
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:23.639
contact in what I can only describe
as a man who lived on the East

641
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:29.519
Coast, the most New York City
scene I've ever seen, just two men

642
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:31.559
locking eyes across the way. He's
on the other side of the street,

643
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:37.360
on the sidewalk, and they both
know they just they have none meet each

644
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.840
other. To get the hell out
of Dodge because there's a whole part,

645
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:43.880
you know where He's like, I
got to go because he has a six

646
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:47.679
o'clock six o'clock ticket, which is
just insane to make a while working a

647
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:54.440
full day name his buddy says.
So he goes racing, and unfortunately Bacon

648
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:58.599
gets the cab, and so Martin
tries to hail down another cab with this

649
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:02.199
lawyer guy, and in doing Griffith
comes up and takes the cab from both

650
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:05.840
the guys while they're in a coach. Yeah, he doesn't even notice that

651
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:07.039
they're there. He's a loof.
And that's one of the big things about

652
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:14.000
Dell Is Dell is a loof.
He has no desire to be rude or

653
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:17.239
to be combative, but he is
very he's very aloof. So fast forward

654
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:21.559
a little bit. They get to
the airport and Steve Martin sitting in the

655
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.880
waiting room across from Dell, and
he keeps seeing this guy that he recognizes,

656
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:28.800
and then they flash back to the
shot where Martin actually at one point

657
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:30.480
chases after the cab, opens the
door and calls him the son of a

658
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:34.280
bit and you get this look of
yeah, you get this look from Candy.

659
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.800
So then he's like, Candy's like, I know you, don't I.

660
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:38.000
And that's when Martin tells him he
stole his cab, and he's like,

661
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:40.320
well, that doesn't sound like me
at all, stolen anything in my

662
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:44.679
life. It's good to point out
too that Candy, like we said,

663
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:46.360
has this trunk the entire movie,
and at one point when they lift the

664
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:52.559
trunk up, there's one of the
shower. No, they are all kinds

665
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:54.719
of little easter eggs like that.
Yeah, So long story short, the

666
00:43:54.719 --> 00:44:00.000
two don't necessarily hit it off because
Martin, through the first like I would

667
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.440
say, twenty thirty minutes of this, is just wanting to get home,

668
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:06.199
not deal with anybody, and he's
just fed. Oh well, yeah,

669
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:08.960
he's just he's a studious man.
He's trying to get home to see his

670
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:14.280
family and he well, and also
think about this, it took so long

671
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:16.320
for him to get back. He
had a long weekend. Yeah, he

672
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:19.880
was gonna be able to take too. He was gonna get home on Tuesday

673
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.639
night before Thanksgiving yep, and not
have to be back in the office till

674
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:23.599
Monday. Yeah, he was gonna
have a night. By the way,

675
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:29.760
I'm self employed. That sounds amazing. I would love to have a off

676
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.840
Tuesday before Thanksgiving and back at work
on Monday. Yeah. But yet here

677
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:37.840
I am recording a podcast with Day. The best thing too about the scene

678
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:40.920
is Candy feels so bad and he's
like, He's like, let me get

679
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:45.000
you a coffee, a beer,
slurpy slurpey glass of milk, and then

680
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:49.199
going back, what about a hot
dog? Then coming back to those deleted

681
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:52.800
scenes, there's an extension of this
scenes so specifically where he looks over at

682
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:58.960
Candy and Candy is just holding this
giant chili dog smoking a cigarette. They

683
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:01.599
cut a lot of him smoking stress
out, Yeah they did, and it

684
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:06.599
just so long story short. Martin
gets to the plane, he has a

685
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:09.280
first class assignment, realizes he's been
bumped and he's in a coach seating,

686
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:13.960
gets to a seat and guess who
he's sitting right next to. Isn't this

687
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:17.960
funny? Isn't this a coincident?
What a coincience? This is? So

688
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:22.400
that the two of them sit down
and uh, he's trying to make conversation

689
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:24.199
with Steve Martin's character, and again
Martin just wants nothing to do with it.

690
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:29.000
He just wants to get home and
then can He starts taking his shoes

691
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:32.320
off, the socks and starts waving
him around. My dogs are barking,

692
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:38.920
My dogs are barking. Do you
even move? He will be right back.

693
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:53.960
Welcome back to do you even movie? So New York City? I

694
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:58.159
tell you, they fly, they
get, the plane goes off, they

695
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:00.840
end up having to detour to which
it because there's a huge snowstorm that moves

696
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:04.719
in. And now they realize that
all the hotels are booked, there's no

697
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:07.599
flights, there's no hotels, and
we get to see a very young Ben

698
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:12.800
Stein announced that the flights are canceled
and then smiling everyone, which is such

699
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:16.320
a I guarantee you that is such
a directory gag to be like to have

700
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:21.000
him doing like action, Good Ben, good Ben? How about on this

701
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:22.840
one just give a smile at the
end, why would I do just just

702
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:27.119
just do it fun like act like
you loved saying, and then they use

703
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.559
that one and it is very memorable
because of it. Yeah, well at

704
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:32.400
that point and ben Stein, Benn
and Bueller, Yeah, Fesis Bueller's day

705
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:35.880
off. So it is either it
was the year before the year after this

706
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:38.159
because yeah, you have I McClure, ben Stein, and Lyman Woodward,

707
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:42.119
who are three alumnis from Perispueller that
made it into this one, right,

708
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.079
So yeah, we basically then are
treated to one of the best scenes where

709
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:50.960
they go to get into a guy's
taxi. His name is Doobie and Doobie's

710
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.880
taxi. Doobey is played by the
great Larry Hankin, and he has a

711
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:58.880
co over. He's got his taxi. It's not a cover that's like a

712
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:02.360
full pompadour. It's homemade. It's
like three and a half feet high.

713
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:07.239
Okay, it was like two inches
three inches off his head and his taxi

714
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:12.400
is just adorn oh yeah, with
with nude women, Christmas lights, nick

715
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:19.360
nack. It's the inside of like
your best friend in high school's burnout Older

716
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:23.880
Brothers basement pad. Yeah, like
like after he just decorated it so chicks

717
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:28.519
would like it. Yeah, that
says about that's what he thinks ain't gonna

718
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:30.159
be what chicks are gonna like.
But and again going back to the deleted

719
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:32.960
scenes, this is when we watched
these for the first time last year that

720
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:36.800
this this deleted scene in particular,
like, well, I wonder why they

721
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:40.800
cut this. Not really, Yeah, because Doobe is in the In the

722
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:45.239
theatrical cut, they drive in the
taxi, he's taken the long roads around

723
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:47.039
and then about like two minutes later
they get to the Brave would in the

724
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:52.599
extended sequence is like ten minutes longer. Doobe straight up threatens Martin to kill

725
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:54.400
him. And then at one point
John Canty's like, now, Dooby,

726
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:58.679
you don't mean that. It's you
don't mean silly to take those thoughts.

727
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.519
It's silly to wait, Doobie,
are you driving around in circles again?

728
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:07.199
Because they've revealed it to extend the
meter? Oh yeah, yeah, because

729
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:08.599
he gets paid by the mile.
Yeah, you know. Actually a funny

730
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:12.960
story really is a quick side note. I was in Chicago a couple of

731
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:16.480
weeks back or maybe a month ago, and I had an Uber driver and

732
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:20.159
the Uber driver was telling me how
Oh no, he's a nice guy.

733
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:22.880
I like it. Dave just went, oh no, because I remember when

734
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:27.199
you and John were in a text. Well that was John's fault, but

735
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.360
that was his fault, he put
the wrong address in. But the driver

736
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.440
was telling me that the hardest part
about that job is that people don't understand

737
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:37.239
it's not a taxi. So when
he gets in and doesn't follow the computer

738
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.280
because he knows a faster way,
they're like, hey, don't do that,

739
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:43.400
and he's like, you already agreed
to the price. I can't.

740
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:45.599
I can't run the meter up.
There's no meter. There's no meter.

741
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:49.719
Of course he said it in a
thick accent that I'm not going to replicate,

742
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:51.719
but but yeah, he was like, there's no meter. Like,

743
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:54.199
I'm just going the way I know
is faster. So but yeah, Dooby

744
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:58.639
is dubious. Dube is dubious.
Indeed. So they get to the braid

745
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:01.639
would end and they have to you
find out they have to share a room

746
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:06.159
because there's no rooms available except for
one, So they share a room.

747
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:08.800
They get into the room and then
we've realized that there is one bed in

748
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:13.880
the room, singular bed, and
it's I would call it. I wouldn't

749
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:15.400
even call it a queen. I'd
call it a full yeah. Yeah,

750
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:19.599
not a twin. No, it's
it's well. And the look they share

751
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:22.639
because that Martin's panning the room and
then goes back to the one bed,

752
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:28.559
and then it cuts to Candy and
he's just like he just has yep,

753
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:35.039
okay. So we get to the
funniest sequence then, which is the bathroom

754
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:37.360
sequence. So they're unloading and everything, and Martin's in the shower, John

755
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:40.760
Candy has done his bathroom duties,
and they're waiting for the food to be

756
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:45.920
delivered, and you find out that
Candy has used up all the towels except

757
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:49.280
for a washcloth except for one.
And when I when he says when David

758
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.760
says washcloth, he means a worsh
cloth like a little a little it is

759
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:54.960
the size of like you know,
the envelope you get from the I R

760
00:49:55.079 --> 00:50:00.000
S when they decide they're gonna fuck
you so And also in this scene too,

761
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:04.679
there's just water all over the bathroom
floor like it is flooded almost and

762
00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:07.360
Martin said that he actually got athletes
for the first time since his teen's shooting

763
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:13.000
that scene, well knowing what I
know about grips and gaffers. I believe

764
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:16.639
that. So he gets out of
the shower and Candy has a So this

765
00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:20.880
is where we had one of the
best deleted scenes of all is there's a

766
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:24.320
pizza delivery guy that rolls into the
braid would end because Candy orders a pizza

767
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:28.920
that is the most disgusting pizza that
has garbonzo, beans, corn and all

768
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.079
this stuff on it. It's got
so much stuff on it that I've just

769
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:35.800
never even heard of on pizza.
And I lived in Jersey, where they

770
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:38.440
make amazing I mean like I got
a broccoli pie once that was amazing.

771
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:42.599
But anyway, so the pizza guy
comes to the door, knocks on it,

772
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.199
and Candy's in the bathroom at this
point with Martin, and he's like,

773
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:45.960
He's like, doors open. He's
like, well, no, it's

774
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:49.840
not. And for like two minutes
they go back and forth, and then

775
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:52.559
Candy goes to the door, opens
the door, and you realize the pizza

776
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.519
guys on the wrong side of the
hallway. Yes, because he's like,

777
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.960
what room's going for? Yes,
what's that door? Say? One eleven?

778
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:04.800
He turns around. Oh, so
this is where we talked about their

779
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.840
characters. Candy lays into this pizza
guy. Yeah, he's really really really

780
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:10.320
insult him in everything. And like
I said, this is the extended scene.

781
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:13.480
This isn't in the mood, this
isn't in the final cut. So

782
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:16.599
we get to the scene where Martin
and Candy are laying in bed and you

783
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:21.199
find out that the beer's exploded on
the bed. There's a vibrating bead he

784
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:24.280
turned on the massage sin. Yeah, which for those who've never had the

785
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:30.119
luxury of taking a fine young woman
or a confused young man to a fine

786
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:36.199
vibrate in bed, it's a sign
of pure quality. Absolutely. So the

787
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:38.639
beer's exploded, Martin has to lay
in a bed that's just full of beer

788
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:43.159
at this point, and then Candy
is smoking a cigarette in bed. He's

789
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:45.960
cracking his neck, he's cracking his
knuckles, he's clearing his throat, and

790
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:47.920
Martin has had it and lays into
him and basically says, you know,

791
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:52.320
you've been under my skin since the
moment that we left the airport and just

792
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:55.159
continues to knock him down. And
that's when Candy does, oh my god.

793
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:59.719
But here's something I want to mention
that's really interesting about the film.

794
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:04.199
So Steve Martin lays into him,
says like, you're fat, you're stupid,

795
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:07.760
you're cheap, you smoke, you're
you're a slob, you do all

796
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:12.599
these things, and he just like
really beats him down. And then John

797
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:15.800
Candy defends himself with that incredible speech
about you know, on the genuine article,

798
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:17.039
what he sees, what you get. I like me, my clients,

799
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:21.119
my customers like me, my wife
likes me. That's incredible. But

800
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:24.079
what I think is more special about
this movie as we are talking about it

801
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:30.559
now than talking about what he says, is when this happens in the movie,

802
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:34.639
it's dead in the middle. Usually
this is the kind of thing you

803
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:38.519
would see right around the third act, or maybe even maybe in the middle

804
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:44.159
of the third act, because that
would institute like the moment where the characters

805
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:49.679
are tired of each other and then
they come back together. But instead we

806
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.760
have it right in the middle.
It like gets it gets it all out

807
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:55.400
so quickly that then you have this
moment you're like, well, what happens

808
00:52:55.440 --> 00:53:00.760
next? And that's where John Hughes
really shines because he's like, well,

809
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:05.760
what happens next is humanity humanity indeed, And that's where we go from there.

810
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:08.800
And that's one of the reasons I
love this movie is it's John Hughes,

811
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:12.599
in my opinion, and I think
in a lot of people's opinions,

812
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:15.199
is a master of formula. Yeah, he's a master of efficient storytelling.

813
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:17.599
Yeah. And he was like,
nah, this is how it has to

814
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:21.320
go this time, and a brilliant
move to make it, because at this

815
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:23.960
point you get the flare up of
the music, you get Dell delivering this

816
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:28.760
amazing monologue, and then the two
of them get back into bed and you

817
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:30.280
know, differences aside, they go
to sleep. Well, then in the

818
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:35.679
theatrical cut, you think this guy
is just a you know, random robber,

819
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:37.320
it's the pizza guy. Yeah,
the pizza guy comes back. So

820
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:40.079
in the film, the guy who
comes into the room and robs them,

821
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:44.280
ye, steals their money while they're
asleep, is actually the pizza guy returning

822
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:46.719
for revenge for being treated like an
idiot. Granted he was an idiot,

823
00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:52.000
you know, and apparently a thief
and a thief. So the next morning

824
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:55.000
they decide that they've got to find
a way back home, and Candy finds

825
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:59.559
out that he's got a buddy in
the railroad, and they decide that they're

826
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:00.920
going to hop a train and try
to make it the rest of the way.

827
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:06.400
And that's when we get the film
debut and one of the best debuts

828
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:10.039
of Dylan Baker, who was in
Trick or Treat Happiness just as the the

829
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:15.719
pedophile, Yes, but film debut
as Owen, who is the son of

830
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:22.559
Gus comes into the parking lot and
he looks terrifying. He is sincerely so

831
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:28.599
intimidating as he walks up power curtain. Fella, fella, No, it's

832
00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:31.400
a it's a great ye. And
he well, he references pigs. Yeah,

833
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:35.599
and then he's like snorting like a
pig with a mouthful of chew.

834
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:40.159
And this and this sequence is also
great because one of the elements that that

835
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:45.519
plays a role in every decision is
Dell has been everywhere in America as a

836
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:50.199
traveling salesman. Therefore he has a
friend everywhere. Yet like like when he

837
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:52.000
gets to the braid Wood in the
dude is thrilled to see him. Yeah,

838
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:57.360
he is, so usually when he
goes somewhere and introduce and and people

839
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.719
know Dell, they're always happy to
see him. Of course, Dell is

840
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:05.320
also you know, I don't want
to say, he's like a sucker,

841
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:09.000
but he's he's well meaning and he'll
accept whatever he gets. Yeah, and

842
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:14.719
that definitely pisss off his travel companion. It does, indeed, because so

843
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:20.360
they have to go to Stubbsville or
no people train Subsville, stubbs people train

844
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:23.000
don't run out of Wichita lesson you're
a cattle or a hog. So they

845
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:25.360
have to go to Stubbsville. So
they have to climb into the back of

846
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:29.119
this pickup. And that's when Candy's
like, you know, it's a little

847
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:32.119
farther their original destination. How much
father sixty seventy miles? No more than

848
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:37.800
seventy five, No more than ninety, definitely under ninety. And as they're

849
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:40.559
driving along, they're freezing the they're
freezing. Do you think it is out

850
00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:47.360
here? One run? Do you
even? Movie? Will be right back,

851
00:55:54.840 --> 00:56:02.400
welcome back to do you even movie? So they get to the train,

852
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:06.440
They get on the train and basically
you think they're gonna part ways because

853
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:10.599
Neil wishes del well, because Neil
tells him and they get that. They

854
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:14.480
get on the train, the train
breaks down and then they have to now

855
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:19.719
meet up again. Well, he
sees Dell dragging his giants trus giant trunk

856
00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:22.039
by himself and just picks it up
because the train breaks down. They're all

857
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:27.760
walking through farmland that is not currently
being because it's November, so the farm

858
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:30.519
land, their farm is done tilling
and cultivating this season. So they're all

859
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:36.519
walking across giant hunks of sod and
it's a really cool scene, it really

860
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:38.880
is. And so now we've gotten
we've we've done our plane, we've done

861
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:42.960
our plane, our train, and
now we're going to go and try to

862
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:46.159
get on to first of two automobiles. Yes, the first of two automobiles.

863
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:51.880
So they decide that dell or Neil
decides that he's going to try to

864
00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:53.400
get a rental car or no,
wait, this is the bus. No,

865
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:57.440
this is the bus. Yeah.
They all walk to a bus station.

866
00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:00.079
Yeah. So they get in the
bus station and they're singing songs like

867
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:01.920
ninety nine Bowles of Beer on the
Wall and the flint Stones, and then

868
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:06.079
Neil tries to do one which is
three Coins in a Fountain by Frank Sinatra,

869
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:09.000
and the whole bus turns around.
Man, he stops dead in this

870
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:14.320
track. Flint stones made the flintstones. That's the most you can sing before

871
00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:15.800
he gets fair enough. So they
get to the airport, Neil decides he's

872
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:19.639
gonna rent a car, and then
we are treated to probably what is the

873
00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:22.519
most famous scene of the movie,
I would say, because this is where

874
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:25.519
it gets its R rating. Oh
yeah, yeah, So he gets dropped

875
00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:30.800
off. He gets dropped off at
the uh where is rental car? Yes,

876
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:34.639
And as he was it's like a
massive parking lot the size of like

877
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:37.760
several malls. Yeah. And as
he arrives, there is no car in

878
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:40.760
the spot, but there's like tire
marks, like it's been peeled out,

879
00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:46.480
Which I love that because that's just
a just extra insult to injury. That's

880
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:50.360
like, well there was a car
here at some point, yeah, exactly.

881
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:53.119
So now he has to walk back. He can't get the shuttle to

882
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:55.239
pick him up. No, he
misses the shuttle. Yeah, So he

883
00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:59.800
has to rock across the runway.
It's freezing cold at this point. He

884
00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:02.079
has to go down ramps and he
almost gets falls down. He almost gets

885
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:06.360
smashed by a semi truck. Yeah, more than once in this movie.

886
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:08.360
His briefcase gets smashed more than once
as well too. So he gets it

887
00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:13.440
to the rental place and Eadie mcclug
in. One of her best roles is

888
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:15.800
talking on the phone to what we
understand as a family member talking about the

889
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:20.119
Thanksgiving dinner, not paying any mind
to him, and he's got his tie

890
00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:22.559
tied around his ears. Yeah,
he's trying to stay warm. And I

891
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:25.840
also want to point out she's not. She could be a lot crummier to

892
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:29.480
it. Yeah, because she's literally
because when he walks up and he says

893
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:31.039
excuse me, she just gives him
the fingers and the one finger, the

894
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:36.159
one second finger, yeah, and
then says all right bye, like she's

895
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:37.000
just had fun and the sh was
like, how may I help you?

896
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:42.480
And then she notices he like looks
really rough. So she's actually not even

897
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:46.159
that bad. No, she's not. But at this point Neil is done,

898
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:52.760
rage addicted, and because he opens
with the first thing you can do

899
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:57.679
is wipe that smile off your rosy
fucking cheeks. And this is where the

900
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:02.079
film guarantees it's our raid. Nineteen
f bombs. He says that were nineteen

901
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:08.000
times, nineteen times. I want
a fucking car right fucking now. Actually

902
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:12.880
he says it eighteen because EATI mclearg
replies back with, may I see your

903
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:17.000
rental agreement. I threw it away. Oh boy, oh boy, what

904
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:22.519
you're fucked. And that's it's one
of the best scenes. Uh. And

905
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:27.679
I love the idea that they that
I bet you hughes purposely was like,

906
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:30.880
let's not have any other efforts.
Yeah, that way, that scene stands

907
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:32.480
out. I can fully believe that. So at this point, now he

908
00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:36.320
has to leave and he goes out
to get a rental car, and that's

909
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:39.400
when he insults the rental car provider
guy. No, it's not a rental

910
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:42.920
car he's getting. He's getting taxi. That's the thing, because he says,

911
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:45.079
like I want to get a taxi. He's like where to and he's

912
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:47.280
like Chicago, and he's like Chicago
airlines are faster and you can get a

913
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:51.119
free meal. If I wanted the
want of a joke, I'd follow you

914
00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:54.000
into the john And then this guy
lays him out, punches him and falls

915
00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:58.880
into the road and almost gets his
head run over a second time, but

916
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:04.320
the car stops and out gets the
driver Del Griffith, so dell Is his

917
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:07.400
chest does again for laying in the
road, asking what happened, and the

918
01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:08.559
taxi driver's like, get out of
here, and he's like, He's like,

919
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:15.679
you would sensitive asshole help my friend. He's like with pleasures, yeah

920
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:17.440
yeah, and just pulls them away. Oh my good thing that cop shut

921
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:21.000
up when he did. Otherwise you'd
have to lift your schnis to tie your

922
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:24.119
shoes. Martin in the next scene
in the car just has a high pitched

923
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:28.480
voice. I mean, it's probably
the silliest joke in the movie. Really

924
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:30.239
enjoy it. So then we get
to the two of them driving in this

925
01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:36.400
car together and uh, Candy is
driving it first, and he is what

926
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:38.000
and sit next to Martin of course, and he's messing with it or no,

927
01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:42.559
is it Candy's Martin's driving first?
I think I'm trying to think,

928
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:46.880
yeah, yeah, because Candy breaks
the seat. Yeah. So there gets

929
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:50.840
to a point where Candy's driving and
he wants to take his coat off.

930
01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:52.760
But he also before this has done
one of the other famous scenes in this

931
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:58.000
where he does Ray Charles mess around
while he's playing it while Martin sleeps in

932
01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:00.920
the car next to him and he's
getting into it. And they even they

933
01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:04.119
even did another version of it too, because I remember when you and I

934
01:01:04.119 --> 01:01:06.920
saw that in theaters, we were
both shot well, I mean Yeah,

935
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:10.239
that was a great scene. So
he smoking a cigarette, he throws it

936
01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:15.039
out the window. It goes into
the back seat unaware, and he starts

937
01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:17.519
to get hot because the cigarette starts
to burn away at the car at this

938
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:20.800
point, and if you're driving in
the winter, yeah, you know,

939
01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:22.960
the cars get hot. So he
tries to take his coat off and gets

940
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:25.639
wrapped around the seat. So now
he's got both his hands stuck. He

941
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:30.760
can't do anything. The car does
a full one eighty and goes on to

942
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:34.679
the other side of the road unaware
of them. Wakes kneel up and heels

943
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:36.400
like, it's a little hot here, you should take your jacket off.

944
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.239
Well, well, what happens is
he goes off the off ramps. Yeah,

945
01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:40.679
and then when he gets back on, he's so distracted he gets he

946
01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:44.639
goes the wrong way, and so
they're driving down the wrong way, and

947
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:46.239
we see these two people in a
car next to them on the other street

948
01:01:46.239 --> 01:01:49.199
and they're like, oh my god, they're going the wrong way. So

949
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:52.800
they start honking trying to get their
attention. Try, you're going the wrong

950
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:55.159
way. You're going to kill somebody. I love the first time I say

951
01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:58.039
out, you're going the wrong He's
like, how do you know where we're

952
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:02.559
going? Yeah, thank you,
and Candy does an impression of them drinking.

953
01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:07.599
They're drunk. You know, this
joker wants to race. He thinks

954
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:10.519
they want to race. So then
they look forward and two semis are going

955
01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:15.079
simultaneously side by side. The car
goes between the semis, and while they're

956
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:19.000
doing this, Martin looks over at
Candy. Candy has now turned into a

957
01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:22.199
devil who's laughing. Which is my
shirt by the way, Dave is wearing

958
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:24.960
that shirt. Yeah, and and
well, and then they're both skeletons.

959
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:34.000
There's all kinds of like like subliminates. So the car gets completely just demolished

960
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:37.719
between these two semis. They're off
on the side of the road, and

961
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:43.840
that's when he gets out and reveals
that unfortunately Dell took Neil's diner's card out

962
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:49.039
of his walls and rented the car
with it. So now this pisses off

963
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:52.679
Martin because that's after they realize the
car is also the car's also on fire

964
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:53.840
at this point, yeah, yeah, because the cigarettes fully caught it.

965
01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:58.519
Now. Yeah, So they get
into a fight and they end up getting

966
01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:00.199
the car back on the road and
they go to this new little like little

967
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:04.599
cabin area and they go inside.
Their credit cards are melted, their wallets

968
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:07.239
are melted. They have like little
to no cash, and the owner of

969
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:08.960
the end comes out and he's like, you know, what, what can

970
01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:13.159
I do for you? They want
a room and this this point, no,

971
01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:15.840
they don't want a room. Oh
yeah, Neil want wants a room,

972
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:19.159
one room, one room. You
get your own room. You pay

973
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:22.079
for your own room, damn it. So then he only had the cost

974
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:23.679
is forty two to fifty because at
one hilarious point, he takes out the

975
01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:28.519
credit cards because he's like a let
me charged, and he lays down visa

976
01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:36.440
diners like a gasoline card and they're
just sitting there's like these aren't credit cards.

977
01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:38.280
So he denies him and he's like, how much is the room?

978
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:42.280
Forty two to fifty and he's like
seventeen dollars and a hell of a nice

979
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:45.039
watch. So he gives him the
watch and then he gets his room.

980
01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:49.079
It is a goal. Yeah,
it's a very nice watch. So Candy

981
01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:51.280
goes up and he's like I need
a room too. He's like, I've

982
01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:54.480
got two dollars and a nice cassio
and yeah, it's like the kind of

983
01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:59.559
watch you would expect El Griffith three
words. So Martin's in the room and

984
01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:02.360
Dell's keeping outside. There's a snowstorm
that starts falling. And during this whole

985
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:08.519
movie, Dell has talked about his
wife Marie very very little, except that

986
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:11.480
he's crazy about her. He has
a photo of her that he always puts

987
01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:15.280
on his bet on the nightstand where
he's sleeping. Yeah, so he's talking

988
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:15.880
to her and he's like, you
know, well, Marie, I did

989
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:20.079
it again. I found a friend
and I smothered the poor, poor soul.

990
01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:24.840
And that's when Martin goes out,
opens the door and sees the snowfalling.

991
01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:27.000
He's like, you're gonna freeze out
there, invites him in, and

992
01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:30.320
then we're treated to one of you
and I's all time favorite scenes. The

993
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:32.400
two of them have basically let bygones
be bygones, and they've gotten into the

994
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:35.760
mini bar together. Oh yes,
well, well, and I get where

995
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:41.719
Steve Martin's coming from, because he's
like, I paid like six hundred dollars

996
01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:45.079
for this room because I gave up
my watch. Yeah, so I'm gonna

997
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:50.599
raid this mini bar. So they're
just drinking like tequila rum meeting bags.

998
01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:56.280
Yeah, is this a good combo
or what it is? Probably too tequila?

999
01:04:56.440 --> 01:05:00.880
Probably not. So they get into
a discussion about know, haven't been

1000
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:02.480
home in years, is what Dell
says, and he's like, you know,

1001
01:05:02.519 --> 01:05:04.519
at the very most, at the
very the very least, you have

1002
01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:08.400
a woman to go grow old with
and that you love. And you know

1003
01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:12.159
he delivers just this. You know, love is not a big enough word

1004
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:15.400
for what I feel for my wife. Yeah, yeah, Dell definitely cares

1005
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:18.679
about his wife the whole hell of
a lot. And then the next morning,

1006
01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:21.559
yeah, they are, and I
want to mention real quick before we

1007
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:24.960
get to that. Also, like, as they're laughing it's time to go

1008
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:29.920
to bed, it literally feels like
I'm watching them in summer camp. It's

1009
01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:31.880
like, this is like summer camp. And Dell opens the bathroom door to

1010
01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:36.199
laugh some more, and everywhere I
loved it. I love it. So

1011
01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:40.000
the next morning they've got to leave
and they get in the car and it's

1012
01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:44.039
stuck in the snow. But then
as they're rocking it, it accidentally backs

1013
01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:48.639
up and just punch. The reason
I love that scene so much because it's

1014
01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:51.280
very broad humor. It's not the
kind of humor that I that I think

1015
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:54.800
makes this movie special. Yeah.
The reason I love it is because then

1016
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:58.679
it cuts to a close up.
It cuts to a close up of Steve

1017
01:05:58.679 --> 01:06:01.400
Martin. He goes, oh,
like because he's mad. He's still mad.

1018
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:04.960
He gave up his gold watch.
He's still mad. So I love

1019
01:06:05.079 --> 01:06:10.559
that little moment. All let's go. And then when they pull away,

1020
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:15.679
Yeah, I also love that as
they turn out they had the going the

1021
01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:18.400
other way. It's so good.
So they're going down the road. The

1022
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:21.440
car is a piece of shit at
this point, completely destroyed. The tires

1023
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:26.039
are bouncing, the cars scraped,
and then they end up getting pulled over

1024
01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:29.639
by Michael mckeanon as a state trooper. He asked them if they think the

1025
01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:31.840
car is drivable, it is not. And then this is the deleted scene

1026
01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:35.800
that we still have not found.
So what happens is in the deleted scene

1027
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:42.760
they decide uh or they find out
that they've driven three hours past Chicago.

1028
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:45.840
They're in Wisconsin. Oh yeah,
they drove right past. Yeah, I

1029
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:47.840
thought they drove the wrong way.
They were driving away from Yeah, he

1030
01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:51.199
says, they overshot it from what
I could find. And then that's when

1031
01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:55.599
they get into like a physical fight. And then that's why Candy in the

1032
01:06:55.599 --> 01:06:58.599
one scene has a black eye.
That's where I can't remember hearing that because

1033
01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:01.559
because in the next scene, after
they're kind of trapped, we go and

1034
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:04.760
this is one thing I love this
movie, and this is an example how

1035
01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:08.800
it flies by, even though we're
taking over an hour to talk about it,

1036
01:07:09.159 --> 01:07:12.639
because that at that moment. Then
the next scene is they're sitting there

1037
01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:14.920
after the car has been impounded until
it can be made, you know,

1038
01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:17.559
safe to drive on the State Highway. And and then Candy pulls up and

1039
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:20.079
he's with a truck driver and he's
like, come on, we're gonna ride

1040
01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:23.679
it. He's gonna give us a
ride to Chicago. It's straight through.

1041
01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:25.639
And he's like, oh, we
can't sit up there. He has a

1042
01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:27.719
weird thing about that, and he
has a black eye while he's saying all

1043
01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:29.559
that. Yeah. So a lot
of people take that to assume that like

1044
01:07:29.599 --> 01:07:32.039
the truck driver slaunched him. Yea. So now there in I believe it

1045
01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:35.119
was a cheese or milk. Oh
my gosh, oshma gosh or whatever.

1046
01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:40.880
I can't remember. It was cheese
or butter. So now they're sitting in

1047
01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:45.840
the back of a refrigerated truck in
winter. Yes, and there is heading

1048
01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:49.119
straight into Chicago. They finally made
it to the Windy City. They finally

1049
01:07:49.159 --> 01:07:54.519
made it where Neil's family is and
where we assume Dell's family is. Yea.

1050
01:07:55.559 --> 01:07:59.480
And now we get to the bus
or to the train station training because

1051
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:02.639
and it's the rail system in Chicago. Chicago is a very nice rail system.

1052
01:08:03.199 --> 01:08:06.679
And that is when the movie takes
a turn, in my opinion,

1053
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:13.079
from being a good comedy to being
a phenomenal film, absolute masterpiece of and

1054
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:17.600
I don't like, I don't use
words like masterpiece lightly and I stand by

1055
01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:23.520
it here. So now, as
Neil gets I could talk about the scene

1056
01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:29.439
forever. As Neil gets on the
train and he's heading home, he starts

1057
01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:31.399
thinking about what he's looking forward to. He sees his little kids, because

1058
01:08:31.439 --> 01:08:35.800
he's got a daughter and a son
and a little baby boy here's maybe a

1059
01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:40.000
year old, and he imagines,
I'm sorry, no, you're right,

1060
01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:44.840
and he just he imagines the dinner, he imagines seeing his wife and smiling,

1061
01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:47.039
and then he flushes back to Dell, kissing his ear and note,

1062
01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:53.119
but that's the thing is he's is
they they made it the way human memory

1063
01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:57.319
works. He thinks about embracing his
wife, which then makes him think about

1064
01:08:57.319 --> 01:09:00.680
when Dell and him embrace, and
then he kind of chuck about it.

1065
01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:04.079
But as he's remembering more and more
about the time together, yeah, he

1066
01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:12.680
realizes that the thing he never noticed
was that Dell is so lonely. Yeah,

1067
01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:16.960
no he is. And the like
we said earlier, we get Marie

1068
01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:20.880
mentioned throughout the movie, but we
never really get more than just I love

1069
01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:24.520
her. She's the best I will
you know, I always love her.

1070
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:28.439
And then that's when he returns to
the train station and lo and behold,

1071
01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:30.439
there's Dell sitting. Dell's just sitting
because he has nowhere to go. He

1072
01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:34.439
has no end of the line.
Yeah, he's just when he was headed

1073
01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:38.560
to Chicago, it was just to
keep being on the road with him.

1074
01:09:38.760 --> 01:09:41.279
And and when he says, what
are you doing, Harry tells it Marie's

1075
01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:44.880
been dead seven years, yes,
for eight years, and he just never

1076
01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:46.319
went home. Yeah, he says, I have no home. And then

1077
01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:49.760
that's when Martin just gets this look
if he's just so sad for him,

1078
01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:56.840
and then he looks up and then
we because the music swells yes, away

1079
01:09:57.119 --> 01:10:01.079
them carrying the trunk down the street
with towards the which was throughout the entire

1080
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:08.439
film the symbol of Neil showing that
dell kindness was always helping him, and

1081
01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:13.000
to me, symbolically that was about
helping a person carry the weight of their

1082
01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:15.600
emotions. And maybe I'm wrong,
maybe I'm looking into it too much.

1083
01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:18.039
I don't give a shit. I
mean, well, I mean, do

1084
01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:21.920
I have to hit them? I'm
right again, button Enrique is right and

1085
01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:28.159
also handsome, Yes, thank you, but no. So now they're walking

1086
01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:31.640
down the neighborhood. They're walking down
Neil's neighborhood, which is a beautiful neighborhood

1087
01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:34.479
full of big houses, and that's
one of my favorite lines because they're walking

1088
01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:38.399
up to the house he goes,
he goes, Wow, you're a lucky

1089
01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:40.720
guy, Neil. And then as
they walk and he's like, I'll just

1090
01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:42.880
you know, I'll just stay and
say hello, you know, real quick

1091
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:46.399
or whatever. He's like, just
come on, Dell. And I love

1092
01:10:46.439 --> 01:10:51.399
it because they open the door and
you know, his whole family there and

1093
01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:55.760
they're happy to see him, and
his wife is there and she has tears

1094
01:10:55.760 --> 01:11:00.000
in her eyes. And then also
it's mostly edited out of the movie,

1095
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:03.079
there is a little hint of his
wife thinking maybe he's fooling around him.

1096
01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:08.319
So when she sees Dell, he's
described to her on the phone and she

1097
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:11.880
says, hello, mister Griffith,
Hello missus Page. There's that moment where

1098
01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:14.600
she realizes, like, my husband
isn't a liar, and you know,

1099
01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:20.560
and now he's here, and I'm
a big believer, Like I've been making

1100
01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:25.119
movies a long time and that's my
day job, and I'm a big believer

1101
01:11:25.199 --> 01:11:30.359
that your mo That what tells the
audience what the movie was about is the

1102
01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:34.199
last thing you show and when you
end and the movie. I'm sorry if

1103
01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:43.399
I'm stealing your but at the end, after everybody's hugging and kissing, it

1104
01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:48.279
cuts to Dell, and Dell smiles
and it freeze frames that eighties freeze frame

1105
01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:54.000
we all fucking love, or at
least I do. It freezes, and

1106
01:11:54.039 --> 01:12:00.640
then it fades out to show that
Dell found what he needed, because the

1107
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:04.399
movie wasn't about getting Neil home from
the holidays. It was about Dell finding

1108
01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:12.880
something that was deeply missing from his
life. And that, my dear listener,

1109
01:12:13.239 --> 01:12:15.840
I pray you've already listened or seen
the movie before we talk about it.

1110
01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:20.399
But that, my dear listener,
is what makes this movie for me,

1111
01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:25.239
a five star film. It makes
me want to watch it every year

1112
01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:29.319
when I'm with my loved ones.
It makes me want to I'm sorry,

1113
01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:31.399
like I'm now, you know,
fuck it. This is my movie podcast,

1114
01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:35.880
God damn it. This is what
movies. This is what makes movies

1115
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:40.319
great. This is a movie that
makes you want to be a better person

1116
01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:46.039
because it's a movie that reminds you
that all of your problems are yours,

1117
01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:54.640
but people have their own problems,
and sometimes you get so self absorbed that

1118
01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:57.960
you don't realize that in front of
you is somebody who really needs your help.

1119
01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:01.520
Because the whole movie is Dell helping
Neil get home. Yeah, I

1120
01:13:01.520 --> 01:13:05.319
mean Neil helping Dell is just carrying
the trunk. Yeah, So that's the

1121
01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:10.680
other element. So, you know, just the fact that when he's finally

1122
01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:13.640
almost home is the first time Neil
actually gets to sit and think about the

1123
01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:16.319
other guy's life, maybe what he's
been saying this whole time, Yeah,

1124
01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:20.760
and then realizes that he really cares
about it. He absolutely does. It's

1125
01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:25.520
the essence of Thanksgiving, It's the
essence of the holidays. It's the essence

1126
01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:29.279
of humanity and it's and I love
it. It's a John Hughes five star

1127
01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:32.359
staple, Like this is prime Hughes
because that's the one thing I've always loved

1128
01:13:32.359 --> 01:13:35.680
about John Hughes is he's really good
at the comedy, but he's really good

1129
01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:40.000
at also showing you the mirror and
being like, hey, can you relate

1130
01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:43.439
to this character or have you taken
into account like some of the people in

1131
01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:45.720
your life that relate to these characters
and not thought about their story in it?

1132
01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:48.800
And then the response is, well, no, I'm a vampire and

1133
01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:53.760
I don't understand why you're holding this
mirror in front of me. But no,

1134
01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:57.359
John Hughes is just I mean,
he has so many wins under his

1135
01:13:57.359 --> 01:14:00.199
belt, and I mean even some
of his movies that aren't really well known,

1136
01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:02.960
like I really love Curly Sue.
That's one I want to sell.

1137
01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:06.319
I mean, I'd love to watch
it again. Oh we can absolutely do

1138
01:14:06.359 --> 01:14:09.560
that, but yeah, yeah,
but I mean yeah, to bring it

1139
01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:12.960
all home. Planes Trains is a
perfect Thanksgiving film. It's a perfect family

1140
01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:15.920
film minus the one scene. But
I'm sure all your kids know, you

1141
01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:19.079
know, what, how do you
make a family through fucking let the F

1142
01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:23.760
word fly come on, and uh. With that in mind, I am

1143
01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:27.159
going to give this here on do
you even movie? We have three ratings

1144
01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:30.720
for when we have our finals.
It's either a by it, a rent

1145
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:32.760
it, or a stream it.
Yes, and of course because stream it

1146
01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:36.119
would mean watch it when you have
as to it. Yeah, rent it

1147
01:14:36.119 --> 01:14:39.920
would mean drop a couple of coins
to watch it, but don't own it.

1148
01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:43.039
And of course own it would mean
this is something you will want to

1149
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:45.720
revisit many, many, many times. Absolutely, And this is a by

1150
01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:48.079
it. This is we cannot recommend
enough that four K, that four K

1151
01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:50.920
with the fifty four minutes of eleited
scene. Yeah, it's it's an incredible

1152
01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:55.199
experience. It's something that that planes
trains fans thought they'd never never get.

1153
01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:58.720
Yeah, and you've got a retrospective
on Candy, you got a retrospective on

1154
01:14:58.840 --> 01:15:01.279
John Hughes. You've got a panel, a really cool little panel they did

1155
01:15:01.319 --> 01:15:04.000
after they showed a bunch of critics
the movie. That is a little interviews

1156
01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:08.760
and stuff with Candy and whatnot.
It's super super fun. But with that

1157
01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:11.800
in mind, we also try to
do you one more recommend and I'm gonna

1158
01:15:11.840 --> 01:15:14.960
cheat this time because I'm gonna give
you two recommends. Nope, show's over

1159
01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:18.840
too, It's up. Where is
it? Where is it? Please?

1160
01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:26.199
No, David So. Dutch nineteen
ninety one is another film that is a

1161
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:30.680
Thanksgiving movie that has a lot of
that tie with you know, having the

1162
01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:34.119
road trip but also finding yourself and
finding the friends you have along the way

1163
01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:38.640
too. Yes, and Dutch is
a great one. Stars Ed O'Neil from

1164
01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:42.399
Married with Children, Ethan Embery from
a Lot of Stuff, but he's a

1165
01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:46.720
boy, he's a young Ethan Randall. Yeah, and can't recommend it enough

1166
01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:50.000
and it just started streaming again.
It is so you can find it,

1167
01:15:50.399 --> 01:15:55.119
so if you if you get a
chance to watch Dutch, it is in

1168
01:15:55.159 --> 01:15:59.439
my opinion, it's a lot lighter, yeah, but still very sentimental,

1169
01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:02.640
very Hughes style. Yeah, totally
worth watching it to a future episode.

1170
01:16:03.239 --> 01:16:08.119
I've noticed on social media people are
rediscovering the rediscovery It's on that It's so

1171
01:16:08.159 --> 01:16:10.560
awesome. I love that. And
then the other recommendation I'm gonna give is

1172
01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:14.600
one I know you like to twenty
seventeen's All Nighter with Emil Hirsch and JK.

1173
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:16.720
Simmons. That movie such a good
movie and kind of the same turn.

1174
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:19.800
You have a workaholic father who attempts
to visit his daughter during a layover

1175
01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:24.199
in LA only to discover that she's
disappeared, and he is forced to team

1176
01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:28.039
up with her awkward ex boyfriend to
find her over the course of one transformative

1177
01:16:28.079 --> 01:16:32.000
night, super fun, super heartfelt, and honestly, nobody knows that movie.

1178
01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:34.039
So I mean I rented it when
it first came out. Yeah,

1179
01:16:34.039 --> 01:16:36.560
I would love for what people to
find all nighter, but that my friends

1180
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:41.439
is playing trans Nomable The Bills nineteen
eighty seven, John Hughes classic perfect for

1181
01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:44.800
your Thanksgiving lineup? This I and
thanks for stopping over me. I would

1182
01:16:44.840 --> 01:16:47.399
also say by it. He doesn't
ask me sorry, no, no,

1183
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:51.600
no, I stand with you.
You're gonna say no, no, just

1184
01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:55.439
rent it. It's fine, you
know, just streaming if you can find

1185
01:16:55.479 --> 01:17:00.319
it or whatever. No, I
say, buy it. Absolutely. I

1186
01:17:00.359 --> 01:17:03.600
can't get enough of those sound effects. So do you have anything else that

1187
01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:08.960
you would like to say? Well, I will say that Thanksgiving movies,

1188
01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:13.800
I do hope that they attract more
audiences. I hope that we get more

1189
01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:15.880
Thanksgiving movies. Absolutely, if you
get a chance, you should check out

1190
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:19.279
Awkward Thanksgiving. That's my Thanksgiving movie. I'm very proud of it, and

1191
01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:24.760
I just appreciate everybody checking out our
inaugural episode of Do You Even Movie?

1192
01:17:24.920 --> 01:17:29.000
Thank You. We'll be back next
Tuesday. In fact, we can say

1193
01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:32.560
see you next Tuesday. That's not
an appropriate out, but we'll be back

1194
01:17:32.560 --> 01:17:35.760
next Tuesday with even more movies.
And we're going to go and go and

1195
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:40.199
go, and thank you to everybody
from the Freddy's Nightmares podcast we've been doing.

1196
01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:43.880
Who's joining us on this adventure?
We appreciate it. If you want

1197
01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:45.880
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more, go to do You Even Movie?

1198
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:48.439
Podcast? Or Sorry Things? Do
You Even Movie? Dot com?

1199
01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:51.720
I just bought it. It's do
You Even Movie dot com? And you

1200
01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:56.039
can email us at do You Even
Movie Pod at gmail dot com. We'd

1201
01:17:56.079 --> 01:17:59.239
love to hear from you. We'd
love to hear suggestions, recommendations, anything

1202
01:17:59.319 --> 01:18:02.319
like that. But now we're going
to get out of here because I am

1203
01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:08.319
eyeing some leftovers and leftovers, are
you sure those are pillows? And who

1204
01:18:08.439 --> 01:18:14.279
the fuck eats pillows? I hate
David? I hate him. Until next

1205
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:18.640
time, kids, We'll see ye
bye. Are they still going? Dave?

1206
01:18:19.079 --> 01:18:24.600
They got your number,