Leveraging My Anger with Jason Criddle

Josh (00:00:02) - All right. Good day, fellas. Welcome to Uncensored Advice for Men. On today's show, we're going to have a conversation with my new friend, Jason, who's going to share his story, share some things that have inspired him to make some massive changes in his own life and how he's leveraged that to help other people. Jason, welcome to the show.

Jason (00:00:20) - Josh Thanks for having me, brother.

Josh (00:00:22) - Yeah. All right. So guys, you might be listening in to the podcast, you might be watching it on YouTube, but let me describe what I see. I see a cool looking dude with tattoos on his arm in the background. I see Batman. I see all these action figures and. And it looks like he's in a, uh, an environment of fun. Jason, why don't you tell us a little bit about who you are and what do, why why do you have that stuff in your background and what does that represent?

Jason (00:00:50) - Now I'm in $1 million. We have an apartment in Denver.

Jason (00:00:56) - There's nothing special about our apartment. So really small, you know. But when you have to be in two places at once, then it just makes it a little bit easier. But Dallas is home. And. Like I think of. I think of home as a bigger version of the bedroom that you had when you were a kid, you know, and and I collect toys. I've always collected toys. When I was a kid. We didn't have toys. We didn't have anything. It was I was probably 8 or 9 before we got a Nintendo. It was a shared it was like a shared gift for the family. But I was like 7 or 8 when I got this little Kenner Luke Skywalker action figure, and I had never had one before. I had never seen an action figure before. And I took a pushpin and I put it on my wall and I used to stare at him before I would go to bed. And so anyway, whenever I went to think it was Tom Thumb at the time, it might have been Skaggs.

Jason (00:01:57) - Uh, saw another action figure at the store and it was a little R2d2, and I bought that and put it in a push pin beside my wall. And so from the time I was a kid, I never wanted to play with my toys. I just wanted to put them on the shelf and enjoy them, you know? And so now, like, you know, it's really funny because I have like this little two and a half year old son running around and and he he doesn't mess with anything. He loves looking at it and everything, but it's like he's already he already understands he has his toys that he plays with on the floor. But then everything else that's on the the walls, he sits on my shoulders and and I talk to him about, you know, this figure came from this comic book and this figure came from this. And so. Yeah, yeah.

Josh (00:02:42) - All right. So I don't want this to happen, but for some reason, a huge flood's coming. We just had some hurricanes in Florida, huge floods coming.

Josh (00:02:50) - It's going to wipe out Colorado apartment. We're going to wipe out the Dallas apartment. But you could grab one piece of memorabilia. Just one. That is the most important to you. Which is that and why?

Jason (00:03:00) - Yeah. Uh, probably just, uh. It's going to be one of the kids toys, you know, like, if there's a couple of little. There's a couple of as far as the collector and the collector, the collection, the memorabilia and everything. There are some things that are greatly tied to my kids. My daughter has this pop action figure that has an autograph, and Curran Walters is like her favorite doctor. My son has a Superman cape that he was around and so of the action figures and the memorabilia, disregarding family stuff, pictures and everything, I'd probably grab her pop and then I would grab his cape.

Josh (00:03:45) - Yeah, that's pretty cool, man.

Jason (00:03:47) - So and then I would probably tell him that he was the one that saved the house. You know? Man, I'm so glad that we got your cape.

Josh (00:03:54) - You made it, buddy. You saved the day, little Superman. So, you know, as I look at your LinkedIn, I see a guy with a sports coat. You know, you look like Dallas. I lived in Dallas. My son was born in Grapevine. And, you know, we lived there for a little bit. And I walked around in a sports code and cowboy boots and I, you know, I let the part fit the part. Now I'm, you know, in a tank top. But in Florida But, you know, I look at this and I see, you know, Jason Cradle and associates insurance investments infrastructure like like. Tell me a little bit about who you are in the professional side of Jason.

Jason (00:04:31) - Yeah, yeah. I've been in, uh, I've been in software investments for a while. I went from. I would walk around comfortably at 365 to £400. Wow. I'm on my fifth time of losing more than £100 in my life. I come from a naturally obese family.

Jason (00:04:53) - If I'm not 100% dedicated in the gym into my diet, then my body just blooms. And so I have to be all in. And then the very moment, you know, you you're like, Oh, I missed the gym today. I'll go tomorrow. And then it's been three months. And that's just how my life has always been. And so whenever it came to my body, now I'm doing things a little bit differently because I'm getting older. I lost my mom to cancer. But I lost all this weight. I became a personal trainer and a nutritionist. I helped 500 people lose £9,000. And that's really cool case study that I did. I got to stand in front of people and talk to them about my story. That led to me writing some books. Eventually, I started a publishing company and started helping small business owners write books. The small business owners needed websites. I got into building websites, ran across a broker, built a website for a broker, and then learned investments.

Jason (00:05:57) - And that was eight years ago. And then my life just changed. Um, you know, not only did I start working. Differently, but started seeing life differently. I started, you know, I'd already had been in business before as a kid. I was that young entrepreneur that was always working hard. But guess over the course of the last 8 to 10 years. Even being a personal trainer in realizing that I was capped at my time and then turning my personal training company into a non-profit so that I could educate a lot of people. It allowed me to help more people. Whenever I you know, I used to have this huge long schedule. You know what it is like being a personal trainer where you're in the gym all day and condense that down to an hour or two and told everybody to meet me in the gym at this time, and this is what we're going to work out. And so this methodology of scaling started coming in and started using that to help people. Build their businesses and thrive because, you know, from being in the fitness industry.

Jason (00:07:07) - Man. There's a lot of information out there and there's so many diets and there's all this, there's fads and there's whatever. There's there's everything that you could possibly think of that could waste your time. Except going to the gym. But going to the gym is the solution. Not putting the crap in your mouth is the solution. And people will literally find 98 other things to do rather than do those two things from a business perspective. I get rid of those 98 other things and we focus on the two. And so learning how to change a body in fitness really helped push me into seeing results in business.

Josh (00:07:52) - What's what's interesting is if you didn't have that experience with your own personal weight loss and then work at a gym where it's like, Man, I'm making 12 bucks an hour in the gym, client after client. The only way to make more money is to take on more clients and sleep less, right? And you go, I got to figure out a way to scale this. Everybody meet at the same time.

Josh (00:08:16) - Hey, that's a good spot, right? Group Fitness. So now it's multiplying. But you've taken these philosophies and such, and then you started doing other work for people, building websites, running a publishing arm, and then you learned investments and. But you're, you're, you're like tacking on these different principles to, to now get to where you are. What if you didn't go to the root of the gym? What if you didn't go the route of losing your own weight? Like, what would that look like today? You said you've lost like over £400 or something like crazy. What would that look like today?

Jason (00:08:54) - Whenever I had my daughter. I'm so glad that I have my daughter first. I have a 13 year old daughter. I have a two year old son. I'm glad I have my daughter first because I was a wreck when my daughter was born. I was an asshole. Typical. I was angry at my father, even though I hadn't seen my father and a dozen years and I was just having sex for no other reason than to just do it, you know? And I slowed down on that.

Jason (00:09:22) - And then whenever I slowed down on that and decided to, like, get into a relationship, my daughter comes along. The relationship didn't work out. But I ended up gaining custody of my daughter. And so even whenever I held her at this young age, like I knew that I was going to have to change because, I mean, it was just like the snap, you know, like my daughter's going to fall in love with me. She's going to fall in love with this guy than I am. And so I have to I have to kind of turn into some other guy. And so now that I have my son, I'm really glad that I have my son because I was able to turn into this guy, this loving father, this loving husband, all these things before I have my son, you know? And so now my son gets to experience me as this father, this grown father. Then all this really comes down to. My life. I really feel like, you know, now I just turned 40.

Jason (00:10:28) - I just turned 40 on July 23rd. Happy call this my thanks, man. I call this my line in the sand. Yea yea. And I'm just really beginning to realize that all I, all I, all I do now is I'm trying to recreate what I wanted for myself whenever I was a kid. My parents, even though even though my mom provided my mom, didn't have access to technology or experiences or, you know, or, or anything that I do now. It's only because I've had access to these opportunities that I am who I am. So whenever I look back at the opportunities that I've had and like you said, I really feel like these principles and these mannerisms and these behaviors have stacked up to where it's allowed me to create this company that's just based off of me. And it's weird. It's. It's really weird to think about that. Like when people ask me what I do for a living, I don't know. Like, I'm sitting here talking to you. Like. It's like.

Jason (00:11:42) - But I'm really good at communicating with people. All these little things helped me communicate with people. Like if I hadn't had the opportunity to hold my daughter, then I would have never had the desire to lose weight. If I hadn't had that desire to lose weight. I never you know, I got a personal trainer. When I got a personal trainer, I was like, Man, I really love this feeling. I could I could reproduce this feeling and other people to see progress, to see change in their body. But even being the personal trainer was kept, you know. So. I got to the point now at a 40 year old man where I'm really just beginning to learn that I believe that I was in some way, shape or form chosen to go through these experiences to be where I am now so that I could do the things that I want to do for the world. The only reason why I'm good at investments is not because I enjoy making money. It's because I have bigger plans for.

Jason (00:12:46) - The planet.

Josh (00:12:49) - So. Being chosen for the challenges, right? Like you could look at one way and people will say like, life doesn't happen, you know, to you. It happens for you, right? And you're like, bullshit. Like, that sucks, right? Like, I don't want to be the guy who, you know, like, all right, Josh, you're going to do some great stuff. Here's a bunch of, you know, heartaches and hurdles and challenges of life. I didn't want that. But if I look back at my life, I wouldn't be. I consider myself a pretty decent dude, right? Love my wife, love my kids, love my God, love my community. Like I'm turning into a decent dude. If I didn't go through those challenges, I do not think I would have the same appreciation for my wife, for my God, for my community, for my kids. So like, I could look back and I could be like, I didn't want those challenges or I don't want those challenges for my kids or those challenges were the best thing that's ever happened to me.

Josh (00:13:49) - You were chosen for the challenges that you faced. Name some of them and the positive effects that it had because of those.

Jason (00:14:00) - You know, it's funny is, I believe what's one of the major things that's happening right now in society as a whole is men aren't being challenged. I call it men without missions like what we're dealing with right now. We have a whole bunch of men that aren't working towards anything together. So yeah. Did you want to touch on a thought before?

Josh (00:14:24) - Nah, man, run with it. I took a deep breath because holy moly, like, you know, in some of the stuff that I've written or, or the reason of the show is. Is closely aligned with what you're saying, man. So keep running, man. It was just a sigh. Like, I feel you, dude, right? With you.

Jason (00:14:41) - Our life. The reason why our lives are so mediocre is because our lives don't suck enough. And I really want people to grasp that. I know way too many 40 and 50 year old men whose mothers are still alive in these men have not evolved past the stage of being a 13 year old that's sitting at mom's house being taken care of on the weekends.

Jason (00:15:07) - And. And so that's the society that we're living in. Whenever you look at these crime rates that we're going that are going, we can blame color if we want. Or we can we can blame the sociopolitical status or. Or we can blame the real problem, which is boredom. People are bored. We have nothing to do. We have no time to be bored. There is so much crap to watch on my TV that it's boring. And so now we have no time to sit around and be creative. We've isolated ourselves so much in the in the name of being strong and independent people that we don't have friends anymore. People go to parks and concerts now and they stand close together while they're talking on their phones. And the people that they're talking on their phones, too, they have no connection with. And so in the middle of all this, you have a whole bunch of boys. That are in their 20s and 30s, 40s, 50s, in some cases that have decided not to have children.

Jason (00:16:20) - We've decided that, oh, I'm too smart for any woman that's out there that could possibly be attracted to and video game sports and the bro code is more important than evolving into what God put us here for, which is to be God's children. Bringing people to God's kingdom be fruitful and multiply. Man we're supposed to be eating healthy food and raising kids. We're not supposed to be doing this shit that we're living in right now, and there's not enough men on the planet right now. To make any kind of real change. There's more people that are willing to make anonymous accounts online and attack other men who are actually trying to make a difference. And so until we get past the point where we realize that we're not. I saw this meme the other day, and Josh, it was so beautiful. It said the world is not. Separated by religion and skin color and race is separated by wise men and fools and fools separate themselves into religious religions and race and color. Our planet is dying. We are dying as a species.

Jason (00:17:46) - And we're becoming angrier with each other when we should be coming together. And so me even coming on your show today is us having an opportunity to talk. Have real talk like this about the changes that we need to actively be involved in. Anybody who's listening to this podcast needs to grab their closest friend and have this same fucking conversation. It's time for us to start coming together, man. Like we need. We can be better husbands, we can be better fathers. We can be better people. We can be better businessmen. But it's going to take us all realizing that we need each other and that we're not strong and independent. We're actually very dependent on each other. And we have these blinders on that are keeping us away from each other.

Josh (00:18:41) - So. Yeah, man. I love the I love the. The path of thinking is that. That we have to come together to create change, right? We have to come together to create positive effects. When we're divided, when we're divided, we can't.

Josh (00:19:04) - In your life, you said you've gone through some challenges, that you've been chosen for challenges. Right. Let me bring back to this question, because I think we found a soapbox for a minute and I'm thankful for it. But name some of the challenges. Right? So one of the challenges you said is, you know, wait, you came from a family of obesity. Do you think that comes from not being on mission? What are your thoughts? And then the thing that switched for you is one day you had your daughter and you said, I need to become a different man. So you hired a trainer, you went to the gym, you made the changes, and you had big success in your own world that led you to help others. What other challenges have you faced and what were some of the positive outcomes for you?

Jason (00:19:44) - You know, you said something earlier, and I say it all the time. Usually the worst things that happen to us end up being like some of the greatest things to ever happen to us.

Jason (00:19:54) - It ends up being the best day of our lives and whatever case. And like you said, yes, it also starts to change whenever you start realizing that things are happening to you. This this sounds really messed up, but I'm going to share it. I was actually talking about it yesterday with my assistant. When I was a kid. My dad. Hurt me a lot, abused me. Um. The extent of the abuse doesn't matter. What matters is this man used to say that he was doing what he was doing. He called it discipline. That's fine. Uh, he was doing it because God told him to. And. And I heard that my entire childhood to the point where, like, I, like, denounced God whenever I was a kid, didn't want to have anything to do with God, which completely destroyed every idea of what I had as the unit of a father. But, man, we could go on for hours about that. So. You fast forward. All these years of me being so angry at my father, of me having lived with the scars of abuse for so long.

Jason (00:21:10) - And then I have this daughter, I have this beautiful little girl, Emma. And, you know, whenever I learned that she was on her way, I was really scared to be a father because I was really scared that I was going to be this, like, abusive father, like my father was. It was like a genuine fear that I had. And then when I held her for the first time, I was like, There's no way that I could ever hurt this little thing. When she was being abused by her birth mother and stepfather would eventually get custody of her. Um. And which was a challenge in and of itself just because of being a father in the court system and trying to take on the responsibility of a daughter. I remember. Not only was I able to recognize the signs of abuse before my daughter was talking, but just remember this instance where she was having a panic attack for the first time and she only had a vocabulary of about 5 or 10 words. And I'm trying to explain to my three year old daughter who doesn't really understand how to communicate, but I understand what she's going through.

Jason (00:22:21) - And it took her having that panic attack and throwing up on me before she was going back to her mother, before I realized what was going on. I put out a restraining order against her mother and stepfather, and I fought for custody. I fought for a year and a half, and I got her. She's 13 years old now. She's wonderful. She's amazing. There is no way that my daughter would have been able to endure what was going on in that house. There's no way. Because I know what it was like to endure that. And my daughter, even though she has a very, very strong spirit in her own way, she has this light in her that has been silenced in me. That light does not exist in me anymore. And it's still to this day exists in my 13 year old daughter who's playing with my two year old son who shows she's homeschooled. She's the greatest girl. Thank. Did. Did God have my dad do that? And if God did have my dad do that, then I'm quite okay with it.

Jason (00:23:32) - Because whenever I look at the man that I became. I needed. There was a cycle of abuse going through the bloodline in the men in my family and. And I'm proud to be the man that broke it. How to sit here and have this conversation with you. I'm proud to write books about it and stand up in front of other men to talk about it because my dad was a fucking coward and he would never be able to do what I did. He beat the strength into me because he was a coward. And I understand that now. That's like the biggest understanding that I have of my life. I was made to suffer as a child so that now, when I'm a 40 year old man on August 31st at 1131 in Dallas, we can have this conversation. And if I didn't have that happen, then no situation in my life would have happened the same way and we wouldn't be having this conversation now, bro. That's just the way it is.

Josh (00:24:33) - Dude, I'm so thankful that you shared this story with me, man, because a lot of guys won't talk about things.

Josh (00:24:38) - They won't talk about tough stuff. And before I hit record, when we're in the green room, I go, Hey, man, is there anything that I cannot ask you? And you're like, No, ask away. And I value that so much. And I think guys need to hear this because this should be the norm of when two guys could get together, talk. And man, I almost teared up when you were talking about that stuff because it's beautiful that you. You had you had the tough hand, you know, the tough back hand of father, but you turned it into the beautiful, nurturing, loving father that you are today because you made a choice to break a generational curse. Let me ask this question because I think this happens a lot to to guys who have had harm or early childhood trauma. Right. My my early childhood trauma was I had a guy in the church who didn't show me any love and respect in a healthy way, actually took it the far opposite way.

Josh (00:25:37) - And for a while, you know, I look at God, I go, God, where were you when that was happening? Right. Where were you when this where was my my mom and dad? Right. When these kind of things were happening. And and it caused anger that I didn't even know that I had. Right. I just kind of blacked it out, blanked it out and and moved forward. When it comes to this, you said, I denounce God for a time. But in our conversations like God came back into the story, how did God come back in that story when he could easily be the villain in your story?

Jason (00:26:13) - Um, well, the fun thing is, is whenever you realize that God was there all along, right? Like, that's the fun part. Like, it was all, you know, like, even we talked about my tattoos whenever I first started. When we first got on the conversation, my first tattoo was on my back, and it's Spider-Man.

Jason (00:26:32) - And, you know, I got it right around the time that the first Tobey Maguire movie came out. And so everybody thought that was some comic book fanboy. And I'm like, No, you have no idea. Like, so. So anyway, man, whenever I was a kid, you know, Spider-Man used to protect me from my dad. My dad would lock me in my closet. And and every time he did, Spider-Man was in there. And I would play with Spider-Man and I would have conversations with Spider-Man. And I got to the point to where I. Again, to a point to where I would look forward to being locked in my closet so that I could see my friend. And that was God. And so I have like all these instances in my life. Where I should have died or something really bad should have happened to me. And every single time there is somebody there. Telling me that I was in the wrong place and that I was chosen for something. I remember whenever I was like 16 years old, I was out with my friend on New Year's in the middle of the night, and we were driving my Chevy S10, my little pickup truck that had no weight and no traction.

Jason (00:28:02) - And there is black ice everywhere. And before you knew it, we were sliding sideways on the ice and we slammed into a light pole. The light pole broke over the truck. We're just, like, stranded. Uh, we were able to get a call to my mom who hung up on me because she thought I was joking. It's like the middle of the night. So anyway, there's black ice. We can't, you know, we. We get a call to 911. Anyway, don't. It doesn't matter to go into the entire story. But, you know, this cop showed up. Cop that I knew that I saw multiple times in my life. I ended up working for police officers every single time in my life where I was going through some struggle that was based off of the abuse that I faced as a kid or just not having my father there some grown ass man appeared for whether it was a period of a five minute ordeal or they were in my life for five years and they took me in and they mentored me.

Jason (00:29:15) - Through whatever it was that I was going through. And then they disappeared. And and it's so funny because a couple of these people I have in my life, I still have in my life, I still very much have in my life. I can pick up the phone. I can call Mike Potter. I can call Chris Caballero. These are police officers that I've known for a long time, like pick up the phone, call Jason Rawlings, a good, long friend and investor. I can pick up the phone. I can call so many people. Some of the men that have made the most impactful direct changes in my life, it's like they don't even fucking exist on this planet. I've looked in LinkedIn, I've hired private detectives. I've given every single spelling of a name that I could possibly remember and. And they're they're not the. And so whenever I think to myself, why are these men not in my life? Unless they all passed away and there's no recollection or record of them being on this planet.

Jason (00:30:18) - No husbands, no wives, no nothing that I met or whatever. Maybe it was something that was bigger that was just pushing me towards this path. You know, and I think one of the reasons why a lot of us don't talk about stuff like this is because, yeah, it sounds fucking crazy. It's whenever you're sitting here and you're talking about miracles that you're witnessed because of your belief and your knowing of a relationship with God. Whenever people don't. When people don't have that. Capacity to think that way or believe that way. They're not mentally prepared to have that conversation. And so usually the easiest response is to attack that, Oh, that's bullshit. Oh, you're full of it, you know, But that's that's the further part of the conversation, right? Whatever happened to men going, Man, I've never heard that before. Let me maturely sit here and listen so that I can take this opportunity to learn more. When did we get to the point? To where? Now we know everything, right? We just know.

Jason (00:31:31) - And we don't want to listen to anything that challenges us.

Josh (00:31:33) - Yeah, it's freaking Google the Google mindset. It's like, I could Google that and I could become an expert on it. Or I got now Siri and or ChatGPT and I could write a book or, you know, I could do all these things like with a with the touch of the button. But what I think is really missing is. I don't know. There was a saying. I forget what exactly was, but it was talking about like for centuries, men had this fire, you know, sit around the fire, talk with each other, talk, you know, why they're cooking up the meat or whatever. But like, they're they're talking to each other. They're sharing stories. They're passing wisdom and knowledge. But they had this community and, you know, like, now I just think that guys are like, I'd rather go play Call of Duty and, you know, like with my friends. But that's not real community, man.

Josh (00:32:18) - You're sitting there shooting, you know, fake, fake, you know, fake little Army guys on the on the screen, but you're not really connecting in with these guys. You're just yelling at each other and busting each other's balls. But I think that that that being able to, like you said, talk to other dudes, share wisdom and go, I have no clue. Let me sit and listen. I think that's missing.

Jason (00:32:40) - Yeah. Um, and the community is missing. A lot of the social gatherings of men are based upon negativity and violence. Like, we don't even need to think about gangs. Like, like you just talked about video games. Right? Yeah. Guess it's fun and cool and everything to sit around and cuss at a bunch of kids. But, you know. But but, but where is but what are we learning here? And so you have these people that are sitting around and they're destroying things in video games. And then you have ha groups and bikers and stuff that are identifying now with this term squad and it's based on violence mean like.

Jason (00:33:30) - Great man. Whenever I was a kid, I watched Michael Jordan play basketball with a whole bunch of other guys and man wanted to grow up and be like Mike. And so we had these huge positive influences. We had role models, we had people that we come to our school and they would say, Kids don't do drugs. I mean, it was this it was this huge thing to build us up. But now if you're famous, then you have followers. And so a lot of the people that we call influencers, yeah, they might have a lot of influence, but the message is wrong. You can have influence and not be a leader and think that that's what we have now. We have a bunch of influencers, but there's no leaders and there's no role models. The influencers are using the clout to sell things instead of using the clout to get a good message across, to make any kind of social change. And then even whenever you have somebody like Chris Pratt that accepts an Academy Award and he gets on stage and he says, the only reason why I'm up here is because of God, well then he has a bunch of men attack him online and call him a bitch and tell him So again, it's all the same problem.

Jason (00:34:51) - It's it's all the same problem. Men are not. Men right now.

Josh (00:34:59) - It's so crazy, right? Here's a guy, Chris Pratt. Right. My we watch his videos. We love him. And guarding the galaxy. We love them in Jurassic, whatever they were. And and yeah, he goes, Man, I attribute this to God and then people attack him. Right? But it's armchair warriors right there sitting on their couch, their, their thumbs do all their typing and it's just like, man, instead of going, you know what? Even if we have a different belief than you, good on you, that you that you believe in something, right? Geez.

Jason (00:35:34) - That's not even. That's not even men. That there's another problem that we haven't even touched on. That's Americans. We're Americans. We're supposed to embrace differences in other people. What happened to that? Oh, my God. Like, I go out whenever I don't have any near me right now. But whenever I go out and network or I go out and especially whenever I'm wearing suits, you'll notice in my suit I have a flag on my lapel.

Jason (00:36:02) - And so whenever I go out, I always give out flags to people that are wearing suits or jackets. I'm like, Hey, your jacket's missing something, you know? And then it gives me an opportunity to make a connection. But the connection always starts with, I'm not a Republican or a Democrat. I'm an American, and I'm here to support you because I'm an American. How can I help you? Because I'm an American. What happened to that? So that it all falls in with the underlying problem? How are men supposed to band together? Whenever we've completely forgotten the principles of the country that we lived in, we we sold that idea to other countries who are now stronger and more united to us than us. And now we're becoming their labor. Huh? This man. Wow. So until we all sit around and we talk about this and we start coming up with solutions, like I have this investment firm, if you come into my firm, then we can teach you and educate you on this.

Jason (00:37:07) - We can make your behaviors better. We can build your business. You know, whatever you have the you know, you have your platform that you're building. And we men start coming together, building these platforms, building these communities and realizing that Josh is not my competition. You know? You know, like somebody might say, Well, Josh, is this really good looking guy, you know, and he has this gas. And if if I go on his podcast and he's gonna make me look bad. No, no, man, like Josh is so sexy.

Josh (00:37:41) - But if I make a clip, it's just going to be that. Josh, Is this going to be that?

Jason (00:37:45) - Josh is so sexy for me, just looking at the camera now, here's the thing, man. Like, like. Is as silly as it sounds. It really is like a light switch. It really is like a light switch for us to make the decision to go, That makes sense. And then have a conversation.

Jason (00:38:05) - And it really just starts with making the decision to have the conversation. And if somebody is really, really wanting to have the conversation with a good friend or their brother or their dad or something like that, and they don't know how to start the conversation, share this podcast. That would be a good way to start the conversation. And that's the podcast. I want to listen to something with you.

Josh (00:38:26) - Yeah. Do you have a podcast there, Jason?

Jason (00:38:29) - I just started recording content for the real, real, real, real church just through. You know, So not so. Yeah, man. So, yeah, so we're going to flip calendars and then we're going to do this again, you know? And so you're going to be, you're going to be on my show too, man.

Josh (00:38:44) - That'd be awesome. So what's the name of the show? Because I'll I want all my listeners to go check out what you got going on.

Jason (00:38:50) - Hopefully it's real. Jason Crystal So yeah, we have Jason Crystal and we just there's nothing on there yet.

Jason (00:38:57) - It's a blank website and we're putting on content, but it's, it's called The Real Jason Crystal And so all my social media stuff, it's been the real Jason Crystal for years. I figured that that would just be the easiest, you know, everything that's about me online is I, I have there's a lot of business and there's a lot of where I was on somebody's show or I was on the news, but it was in their format. The real Jason Crystal's is my life. Yeah. Conversations like this. This is my life man. I didn't I'm not having this conversation with you for this podcast. This is my life. If I don't have a conversation like this with somebody that I'm not having a conversation at all, if I go to Taco Bell and you ask me, How are you doing, you better fucking be prepared to have a conversation with me.

Josh (00:39:45) - Yeah. What, uh, what are the names of your book I'm looking for? I'm looking for your books. Where could, uh.

Josh (00:39:52) - What's the name of them? And where can we find them?

Jason (00:39:54) - Um, you know, the most recent. The most recent one would probably be Smarter living. I wrote this what was called the rough draft edition. It wasn't edited or proofread or anything like that and put it out. But then the breaking points, um, the breaking points are pretty good. I haven't put any books out in a while. I'm trying to change that, man. It's been about five years since I wrote a book.

Josh (00:40:19) - Well, that might. That might need to change, right? Right.

Jason (00:40:23) - I got into writing on blogs. I got into writing on Bora. I joined the U.S. and I started doing the Forbes thing. Yeah. And so once I started doing that, man, I realized that I had probably written about 2 or 3 million words online but wasn't putting them in books anymore. Yeah. And so, so yeah, just, just launched a new book that's only available as a downloadable PDF on Jason Crystal.

Jason (00:40:50) - It'll probably be there whenever, whenever somebody reads this, but it's called Maximizing Returns The Use of Convertible Notes in Small Business Investing. Nobody would be interested in that. I wrote it. I wrote it to speak to investors about a product that we have.

Josh (00:41:07) - So that's super cool, man. All right. So Jason, I know we're going to talk business in the future. I know that, you know, we'll we'll we'll find ways to create some deals and opportunities. But when it comes to the passion that you have for men, um, what question or you know what you say.

Jason (00:41:28) - What That's, that's the part where you need to have me going sexy. Josh When it comes to the passion you have for men and it's clicked you. Josh It's okay. I didn't mean to interrupt. It was just.

Josh (00:41:43) - No, dude will.

Jason (00:41:44) - Do it with a straight.

Josh (00:41:45) - Face. I will always pause when someone wants to say that, so. No, don't. Don't worry, man. You derailed me.

Josh (00:41:52) - I love it. This doesn't happen often. But what question during this interview should I asked you that you think that just, you know, that really speaks to the the the things that men need to hear today. What questions should I've asked you because we've talked a lot about, you know, a lot of different things and we'll talk about business in the future. But what should I have hit on that? I missed the mark.

Jason (00:42:15) - Um. Don't think. We don't think we really miss on anything. Think it's. I think it's step by step. Right. Like the very first. The very first thing that I teach anybody, whenever it comes to sales, whenever it comes to relationships, it doesn't matter what we're talking about. It does not matter. Josh Like bro, bro, I've sat down, I've talked with husbands and wives, husbands and husbands, wives and wives, CEOs and co-founders, people that have owned gyms, doctors that own practices, lawyers that are fighting about their practice, mediators that can't get along.

Jason (00:42:53) - And so. Before we start anywhere. We all need to take responsibility for where we are right now. So we're going to start by. Being completely honest with who we are today. We're not going to talk about the past. We're not going to talk about. Any hardships. We're not going to talk about any goals. We're going to take this piece of notebook paper or this notepad, and we're going to write down three things on there. This is who I am today. And it's okay to write anything on there. So if I am Jason Crystal Well, that doesn't count. What am I today? Well, today I'm a. I'm a successful business owner. That's okay. I'm a I see myself as a great husband and father. That's that's okay. That goes on the list, too. And I struggle with anger. From the time I wake up to the time I go to bed.

Josh (00:43:58) - All right. That's honest.

Jason (00:44:02) - So that's a very good place to start. Who are you? What do you see yourself as in the greatest? In the greatest part of yourself.

Jason (00:44:15) - The greatest part of myself is a great husband and father. And then what am I struggling with every day? I'm angry from the time I wake up to the time I go to bed and a lot of times I can't sleep because I'm angry. Now that we know that. What can we do positively going forward? And that right there is my driver for life. Josh, I am angry. I am angry at my parents that I no longer have the ability to communicate that anger to you. I'm angry at my life for not having a G5. I'm angry. I'm angry at this, that and the other thing. It's a relentless thing that just digs and claws at me. And we have this whole this whole society out there that's going well. You got to stay positive. And if you stay positive, not everybody's positive and not everybody's positive all the time. As a matter of fact, if I were to plug my cell phone into a positive outlet, my cell phone would explode. All the charge from the positive side starts from negativity in the cell phone.

Jason (00:45:27) - Everything positive starts from negativity. So I decided to use my anger to propel myself in life instead of sitting around and being mad. The fact that I'm mad from the time I wake up to the time I go to bed is what pushes me to become better every single day. It pushes me to get back in the gym. It pushes me to be a better father. It pushes me to re-evaluate things that I say to my employees so that I can go back and I can say them better that day. It pushes me to be angry at my dad for getting mad and beating me whenever I would walk in the room because I wanted to watch Star Trek with him, because now my son sits in my lap when I turn on Star Trek because he wants to be with me. Like, how weird is that? That there was this grown man that got mad at his son for wanting to be in the room? It boggles my mind, bro. It absolutely boggles my mind to the point to where it's just a driver.

Jason (00:46:36) - It makes me mad. But that doesn't mean that anger has to be negative. And that doesn't mean that anger is hitting walls or shouting at people. That doesn't mean any of that. My anger is just like anybody else's anger. It's a creative force of nature that you can use to change something that you're angry about. But most people choose to take pills or just stew in their anger. And when we take pills, I have a dear friend, a grown man, who is now become like a. Spokesperson for this pill that he's taken where he texted me to tell me how he doesn't care anymore. And it's sad. It's sad to think that we were getting down this road where we were finally having a conversation about how he's starting to think suicidal thoughts. We were finally having a conversation to where he's starting to overcome the fact that he never did anything with his career. And once he hit that point of becoming emotionally vulnerable, he went to a doctor and got a pill, and now he doesn't care anymore.

Jason (00:47:49) - So now those conversations, they don't even exist because he literally will tell you, I don't care. I imagine he tells his wife, I don't care. He probably tells his son, I don't care. I can't imagine what else is going on in his life that he doesn't care about anymore. The only thing that he does care about is telling me how amazing this pill is that allows him to not care anymore. And whenever he goes down his soapbox, I tell him that. This is what drives me. The anxiety, the depression, the sadness, the anger, the emotion that we're supposed to feel is what drives me. How many men are blocking that out with hot energy drinks, video games, relentless sex with people that they don't care about? I'm sitting here purposely trying to invite huge problems in my life so that I can overcome them and grow day by day. It's a very big difference in character traits.

Josh (00:48:51) - Interesting. Well, let's do this for the guys out there who want to continue the conversation.

Josh (00:48:56) - They could definitely check out the real Jason Cradle. Right. That that'll be a that's a no brainer. That could go to Jason Cradle cradle connect with you there. Is there another place that you prefer people to start the conversation with, like maybe LinkedIn or Facebook or Insta or something like that?

Jason (00:49:16) - Yeah, well, well, hopefully by the time this launches they can just go to the real Jason Crypto.com. So the real Jason Crypto.com is an actual website along with Jason Crypto.com and they can come on there and they can fill out a link to come on and talk to me on my podcast.

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