Wayfair Is Betting BIG on Physical Stores | Fast Five Shorts
Wayfair built one of the world's largest online furniture businesses, but now it is investing heavily in large format retail stores.
Chris Walton is joined by Shelley Huff and Chris Niesen to discuss why furniture remains a category where shoppers want to browse in person. They also examine Wayfair's unique inventory model, its measured expansion strategy, and what this means for the future of omnichannel retail.
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Wayfair, a company that built its entire business online, is making a big bet on massive physical stores planning a large showroom in Denver by year end, followed by Cincinnati, Yonkers, Fort Lauderdale and Princeton in 2027, according to a big write up in Bloomberg this last week, which is why we're covering this story.
Speaker AWayfair CFO Kate Gulver said the furniture category is cyclical and Wayfair wants to quote meat shoppers wherever they are, end quote once spending rebounds and even as high mortgage rates and weak home improvement spending have hit furniture sales broadly, the new locations add to existing flagship stores in Chicago, Atlanta and Columbus, Ohio, and follow the company's first large format store in Wilmette, Illinois in 2024.
Speaker AUnlike most retailers, Wayfair stacks its showroom floors with inventory still owned by its 20,000 thousand global suppliers, a model that reduces upfront inventory risk and makes a store expansion more capital flexible.
Speaker ARoughly 75% of home furnishings transactions still happen in physical retail industry wide, and Wayfair's own data shows markets with stores outperforming national growth rates.
Speaker AShelley, as the former Serta Simmons CEO, what's your take on Wayfair getting into larger physical stores?
Speaker AAre you long or short on this being a successful strategy?
Speaker BI think this is a really smart move for Wayfair and something that they've also been very measured about.
Speaker BI remember competing against them when I led home for Walmart.com and really studying how they went to market and the furniture business is tough right now and it's a high consideration category.
Speaker BFolks think a lot about it before, you know, they make a purchase.
Speaker BThere's a famous quote that's like if you buy a good piece of furniture, you only cry once.
Speaker BSo you know, this is a high consideration set category.
Speaker BAnd so I think physical stores help consumers in so many ways because you get overwhelmed with the assortment.
Speaker BOnline stores help narrow that assortment into key items that are probably, you know, really transitional from a taste level standpoint and fit into most people's homes.
Speaker BYou know, Wayfair has experimented a long time like they were doing pop ups in Natick like 10 years ago.
Speaker BThey experimented with like different retail formats over time and I think they're kind of hitting their stride there in terms of being really thoughtful in big markets and really measured in terms of the approach.
Speaker BI think the inventory model is excellent.
Speaker BThey're not spending a ton of money on inventory to stock these stores and so I think that this is an omnichannel retail story.
Speaker BI think the store showrooming Helps make online more productive.
Speaker BThe customer acquisition costs are probably lower, and I think this makes Wayfair more profitable over time and also helps their brand reach ultimately with consumers.
Speaker ARight, right, right.
Speaker ASo do you like the fact that the stores are bigger, too?
Speaker ALike, do you think that they're large showrooms?
Speaker ADoes that impact your assessment of this, of this headline at all?
Speaker BIt is.
Speaker BI like the fact that they're bigger.
Speaker BBut when you think about the Wayfarer assortment, it's still like the tip of the speaker in terms of what they offer.
Speaker BAnd so we can say they're.
Speaker BI think when you're shopping for furniture, you want to see a lot because you want to feel like you see a lot.
Speaker BIf you think about the.
Speaker BThe psychology about it, right?
Speaker BIt's like, I want to know that I saw everything and I picked the perfect thing for me because I'm spending a lot of money on it.
Speaker BAnd so.
Speaker BAnd so I think within the Wayfair environment, it's still very tip of the spear in terms of this is their absolute best assortment.
Speaker ABut it's almost a requirement when you're shopping for home furnishings in a physical location, you want to see assortment.
Speaker AThat's why the Natick Mall thing never really wetted my whistle.
Speaker AAnd I told the CEO that in 2017, I was like, you got to go big.
Speaker AAnd he laughed in my face, which I've told that story a hundred times on this show.
Speaker ABut now here he is going big.
Speaker ASo I think I've talked about this.
Speaker AI like this strategy a lot.
Speaker AAnd, Shelley, I forgot that we were dueling competitors between Target and Walmart two at a time.
Speaker AThat's crazy.
Speaker AAll right, Chris, what, What.
Speaker AWhat's your take here?
Speaker ADo you like this?
Speaker ABecause you've been in more.
Speaker ALike you said at the outset, you've been in more stores.
Speaker AKudos to you than anyone I know.
Speaker AAnd I'm curious what you think here.
Speaker ADo you think wafers got a whole.
Speaker AGot it in here?
Speaker CThe stores themselves are fantastic.
Speaker CLike, they're done well, they're marketed well, they're easy to navigate.
Speaker CAnd to Shelley's point, like, they present product to a customer that potentially is not familiar with their product.
Speaker CLike, 75% of home furnishings still happening, those purchases happening in person is not something to sneeze at.
Speaker CAnd so there's a need for them to have a physical presence.
Speaker CI think Shelley used a really good word when she was talking about this, and that was the word measured.
Speaker CI still have concerns about the financial Runway here and the risk that this presents.
Speaker CIn the near term.
Speaker CYou know, the article itself talks about that there's no real clarity on when consumers are actually going to begin to be comfortable making these types of purchases again at the rate that they had in the past.
Speaker CAnd so, yes, Wayfair needs to meet them where they are.
Speaker CI agree that physical stores is the way to do that.
Speaker CI just say that they have to be as measured and disciplined as possible in how they do that, because we don't know if customers are going to be prepared to buy those big ticket items for their house six months from now, two years from now, longer than that.
Speaker CAnd so you don't want to necessarily put that financial risk out there so far in advance of when the need is actually there.
Speaker CI'd suggest that this is the right direction, but pace is everything to me.
Speaker CYep, yep.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd the one, the one thing I can say, the one saving grace with, with Wayfair too, is they're the most left brain run retail organization I've ever seen.
Speaker ASo they are probably pacing this out very judiciously.
Speaker AIt would be my hunch.
Speaker ASo I'm curious, I want to get your last take on this point too.
Speaker AThe other thing is when you think about large stores, they're going up against ikea.
Speaker AAnd so the one thing I've always posited is the great thing about Wayfair, like you said, it's just the tip of the spear, their assortment, when you have a large store like this.
Speaker AAnd also it enables you to show a breadth of esthetics and different items relative to the.
Speaker AWhat is the typical IKEA aesthetic?
Speaker ADo you think that's also a factor here?
Speaker BI think it's an advantage of Wayfair.
Speaker BI think IKEA is one thing to people, right?
Speaker BYou know, and they've, they've been tried and true in terms of what that is, and it works for them.
Speaker BI think Wayfair has a lot more style than ikea.
Speaker BI think they have, you know, they can reach different consumer aesthetics, they can change it more easily.
Speaker BAnd I think in a lot of cases they can, you know, expose consumers to a broader assortment, even when they're shopping in stores.
Speaker BSo I think it's an advantage.
Speaker BI think Wayfair actually hits a sweet spot here because they're also more favorable from a price standpoint than most big furniture stores.
Speaker BAnd so there is this place for Wayfair where it's like, I don't want to buy furniture from Walmart, Target, IKEA is not near me, but I don't want to spend as much as going to an Ashley Furniture or even something like that.
Speaker BAnd so I think that there's a sweet spot here for them where I think that they actually have, you know, a good market position.
Speaker BBut I agree with what Chris said.
Speaker BIt's like they're, they're rolling it out at a good pace where they can still learn and grow in a really smart way.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYep, 100%.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd the other point you guys got me thinking about too is like, you know, with their, with their drop ship marketplace model, you know, you could have the vendors participating in the store showroom aspect of the furniture in a way that, you know, is not really potentially done across retail, you know, really anywhere, you know, when you think about it.
Speaker ASo there's, there's a lot of cool angles to this story.
Speaker AIt's great to hear that we're all kind of pro Wayfair's store ambitions.