Kid Capri Part 2

00:00:00 Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio. Hi Good people, This is Sugar Steve from Team Supreme. We are back with part two of our QLs interview with Kid Capri. In part one, Kids spoke about growing up just blocks away from where a cool hurt through his first party. He also recalled digging for records in the seventies and eighties and the early in roads to his legendary career. If you haven't check out that episode. All month long, we're celebrating fifty years and hip hop at Quest Left Supreme. In addition to Kid Capri, we have conversations with styles P and slum Village. What year was your first mixtape? The first? Well, keep it by being starch out che Vota starch out. Me and him start making tapes together when I started playing the s ands with him, and then after I left after that year a year year and a half I left. You know, I was doing my little party st fifty four and stuff like that, and I'd just said what I were doing. I went outside, you played the studio fifty four. Absolutely, Oh WHOA tell me what that shit's like? Yeah, man, yeah, Red Alert. What happened was Louis Vega. Larry Levine was playing Fridays and Saturday, but they had this Wednesday that Red Alert was doing it. Red Alert was going on the role with BDP. So he told the people at Studio fifty four, I want Kicking Pre to be to take my spotty. Like kicking Pre, who's that? We don't know him? Right? Nah? He was like, yo, trust me, he's gonna do what he do. When I got there, you know, I turned it into pandemonium. But I was going on the regular and I was going on the club nights too. I would go hang out just to be there. You know what I'm saying that I couldn't believe I was playing Studio fifty four and ship when I went in there, there my thing yea, this was eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty nine right that time. Okay, I bought bears there, I bought I bought all these different groups to Studio fifty four four. Man, it was dope. It was. It was crazy. And then it got so crazy that the crowds was just the crowds was too much. They were messing up the food stands and I'm watching the security open the door with people's heads and I just say, you know what it we just end this. But now after that, I said what I'm gonna do? And I said, you know what, I'm just gonna sell my old mixtapes. And you know, so I went to trade horn and I got on a hundred mixtapes. I copied tapes that I had, and I made a new tape and I would copy on these six tape decks all nights, staying up tied, sitting in the hall of my equipments. In the hall so when you walk in the door, my equipment was right there at a one bedroom apartment, and I would sit there and make these tapes. And the next day I would go outside and sit down on the street corner and people will say your twenty hours a kick and pretap, who are you? Why would I give you twenty hours for the tape? I say, you'll listen to the entro of it in your car and you'll come back and buy it. Then I got guaranteed you'll put it in the car and listen to it, come back and we'll get that. Get that, get that. And next to you know, my my tapes is in every car passing buys and the cop cars and it missed the soft detruck, people coming off the golf wall, or your tapes and cigarettes is the biggest thing. It became that, and then my parties became infectious. They've seen how I performed. And I remember I was doing LL's party one time after he did the Guard and Russell Simmons walked up and was like, Yo, what do you think about being on the comedy show? It's like comedy show? He's like, what are you talking about? I was like, it was Russell Simmons, shut up, go do it, and we end up doing it next to you know, I'm a superstar. I didn't even see it. I didn't even I was when we were doing the show. I wasn't even singing that far. I'm not seeing that this is gonna be. I'm thinking we're just doing something to have fun, you know, DJ with comedy show. That's it. Studio fifty four in eighty seven, I didn't even know Studio fifty four was still around eighty seven. What records were going off back then in the Studio fifty four? What were you playing? I was playing Public Enemy, playing all the Cane records, everything of that ever, right, That's what I'm saying hip hop was allowed. That's what I'm saying. Seeing it was Levna, Louis and Louisvega. It was all our house. But Red Alert was so respected that they gave him that Wednesday he was going on the tour. He needed somebody to cover. He knew, you know, and that's when he got me. And when I came in, they seen a whole new different shit. They seen the line going around the building down the street like it was every time I came out. It was just pandemonium. And I had to leave it. I didn't want to leave. I had to leave it because it got too dangerous. So you know, I ended up, and you know, and then for God, gant God the day I said, I remember I got biz Bismark got me my first album deal, right, so I'm up. I'm up in an office and Lady Starlight open these four magazines and said and said kick to Pree the only DJ in the world to make millions of dollars off a street mixtape. I was like, wow, So I dedit. I made that's you know what. I didn't want no problems right right, let me just let me just end it. And then I made the last dude, I this tape and that was it. And then fortunately my career you know went death. Comedy Jam came, album came, towards came, and I was on my way. But the mixtape had I not sat on that corner because I got girls driving by laughing that request like I'm doing bad, like pedalment, I'm in holland you know what I'm saying, girls driving by. So I had to put fourteen gold chains on my neck to look like I'm doing good because I was doing something, but me not having that pride, you know, wanting to sit there and take that it was a right decision. Okay, so you went there, and I truly wanted to know how competitive is that marketplace? Again from the outside looking in? You know, when you when you're on road trips and on tour, like you make your stop to your your local mom and pop spot and you just buy all the mixtape and you know he's buying you and do whopping. That's and that's all these cats. But I mean, how heavy was the territorial competition, especially with other mixtape DJs, Like are you listening to Blah Blah Blah's mixtapes to see if he's biting your mix or like them disies with that, Like is anyone else taking Stephanie Mills and putting it over repeat the President or once in a lifetime group by new Edition and you gotta go there. I know it's in in sort of retrospect, but how how tense, like who is who is your main competition? Then? I had no competition when I landed. When I landed, everybody wanted to be kid to preate. Everybody wanted to do it to this day. You see all these DJs don't disrespect. It's the truth. All these DJs do. The kid could prey a lot of them party DJs they do. The kid could preate the way they talk, the way they play the music, the way they look. You know, I made the DJ be an artist. I wanted to be looked at as an artist and not somebody just playing records. I wanted to be where I get on that stage next to that dude that has a platinum marble, like r Kelly. I'm gonna make it hard for him than be on stage like That's that was my focus, not just be a DJ playing records of people just looking at me like that. So that's why I took it that way. And my whole thing was, I'm gonna be better than everybody. I'm gonna give a show that they never seen. I'm gonna make people feel like they've never seen it. So it caught on and it made DJs around the country that never spoke on the mic, never DJ they never played records quick or played those type of records. See me when I come in their city and they seeing this pandimoni and going on and made them do it. So this is the way you gotta do it. And the promoters will tell them you gotta do it the way they could pre do it. And those da say, yo, I'm the type of DJ whit you get kicked pre to coming down. Shut up, shut up and sit there and watch and look and pay attention. Where does that come from? Because for me, I just started talking maybe in twenty twenty and even now in twenty twenty three, I think I've waned off, like all right, the pandemics over. I wanted to talk as much like I'll talk my ass off on zoom like you know what I mean, like when I'm djaying online. But you have this like a bull in a china shop energy. Where does that come from? Because I feel like one of the one of the hardest battles, even without the music, is maintaining getting the respect that of a school bully, Like you're grabbing people by the collar when you're addressing them, not like, hey, guys, how are you doing today? So I'm Kickapri and now I'm gonna play some records and I hope you enjoy it, like you're not that guy, Like, so, where does that come from? Where do you learn that from? Like I told you, I'm a fan of it. So it's a certain amount of keep in mind, we're looked at as DJs that just played DJs, looked at somebody just played records. What's gonna make me anymore special than anybody else? Right, So I gotta add something that means, something that's gonna make people say, oh wait a minute, it's different. Not only that, it's just a feeling in me. Look, I had to surgery recently, right, I've got the BT wars that had surgery took my thigh woid down, all right, Right, I had shows book that I couldn't canceled. I didn't cancel the show, and I told the promoter Jo I'm not gonna really speak on the MAC like that while I'm on stage, you know. But then I get on there and it's a different thing. It's a feeling that I get that I want people to feel. So it comes with me screaming it. It's like I can't really explain it. It's like I gotta scream it out. I gotta, especially when it's at that point where I know these people are gonna go so crazy? How could I make it even go that much more crazy in that instant? And it's my voice? Yo? A question about your voice? Is that your voice on Party Groove Show Business? AG? Yeah? What are you saying? Yeah? What are you saying? Stretching? I thought you're giving me yoga instructions. That was a live show that I did in the Powerhouse where they made the Juice movie at Okay. That's the reason why they made the Juice movie there, because I made the Powerhouse hot Downtown and on the tape I would do I would make the peat like I would say, do the bind and stretched, keeping going, do the bed and stretch. Bid I'm making people dance big and stretched in the party in the club. Oh wow, Okay, So I so show being saddled the mixtape. Yeah, the record, and it became the first party grew record, Bin and stretched, keep it going, do the bin and stretching that keeping and stretched. That's all I'm saying. But everybody around the world says, yo kid, what are you saying? But it caught it the way it sound made it. You know, with something sounds good, it is as good as James. So they didn't know what I was saying, but it sounded good, so it got But my record uptound with my daughter that saw my on my album The Love That's out. Now I did it again. I did the Benders stretch on the end of that record, so it's it's it's a And now the Zumba uses that record in there Zumba exercise. It's crazy to sept me a video with the whole sumer class big super class dass is the uptowns. So that biggest stress definitely worked out. James M two made Bookers is a big, biggest thing. Yeah. Why that record when we when we interviewed him, got rest in Peace? Got what was it? First of all, did you produce that on Vanpooper's record? Yeah, of course you did. Like I'm trying to do the math in my head because even when I got the record, I'm like, what I listened to to this soundtrack to even know that it's so unusual, it's a very unusual break that it's not it's not. Yeah, yeah, it's such a weird it works. But even then I was just like, wait a minute, why would he sample it? What is your relationship to to Bigger's theme? Uh? It was just a dope drug that I think I heard Blucy had played it one time, Brucy b Yeah, I think I heard Bucy played it with rock Kim Dad. What did I hated that? I think I played it, And you know we would take like all right, perfect example, like mister me force to Silver, that record made the nineteen seventy two the record was over that with made it hot, made rise to the top. Uh, you know all these records that was over. As a matter of fact, Take six I put I put spread on that tape and take six and twenty twenty reached out to me kid, he said, Yo, we made that record for the gospel people. You put that record on your tape and put us on the worldwide tour. So we want you to remix the song. I did a remix of spread Love we Take six and twenty twenty. It's called spread Love twenty twenty. Shit is crazy, the beats, the drumps is crazy, everything. So they they were so they had so much gratitude for me putting it on them that they came back and asked me to produce that. I was so happy for that. But you're the one that's responsible for that spread Love mix with Turner break Under. That's f I did a real remix for Okay, Okay, okay. Keep in mind that record that it really had nothing to do with what else was on the tape. It was like everything else on the tap, so far away from everything else. But that's what I'm trying to say. I go by what is hot, what is good, and it doesn't have to make sense. It'll makes sense after I make it makes sense. I think like that, like it don't happen. If you listen to my show on Serious Sex, Some Fly the Block Party, you'll hear young A Main and hear al Gain after you'll hear you know what I'm saying, Like you never know what you're going to hear, and that's what makes it so so Greea go. You know, you're you're like the king of the mash up to me marrying you know, worlds of stuff. So what do you consider like your signature mix that that is exclusive, exclusively yours, And what do you consider the mix that like the first time you did it, the entire crowd with apeshit like, what the fuck is that we could go? We go up to something in the way you made me feel with the piece of President that changed the whole Army B game. Now you had to make mon b records with break Beast. That's how Marry and all these things came about because nobody heard it that way before, you know what I'm saying, and it just changed the whole game. So that was one of the things. But there's so many things. Let me just let our listeners know that, yes, both they and Mary credit you when they heard that Stephanie Mills something the way you make me feel acapella, which is unusual to be on a twelve inch like you know, the idea of an R and B acapella at that time, right, very unusual. So instantly, you know, we're sparks going into your head like yo, what the hell? Like I can do anything with this or the full circle was when me and Stephanie did it live. I remember you came with me, you see, oh kid, I was hip hop. Tell that story of how you got something to do it with you. What happened was I've been doing Indiana Black Explo with ab Haris the promoter for twenty something years every year at Harris Now managers Stephanie Mills. So I was doing a show for him out there in Indiana. He told Stephanie Mills the story about what I did with the record, and he had her come to Indiana without me knowing. So I was on stage, she was right there and he said, yo, little steph I bought step out here for you. I was like talking about she came out. I never met her. She didn't know nothing about what was going on until we told her she had this big ship, huck. She knew what her record was to her, but in the street she had no idea what was going on. So when we did it then it wasn't rehearsed. Like I said, I never met her. Was my first time meeting up. And we did that ship on the spot. And if you remember, she was going to keep going and I stopped myself up. That's it, that's all I need. I'm good. I felt like be stopping up and it being short would make more of an impact than me having to do the whole thing. That's just the way I thought at the time. But just how being there with me and seeing a visuality when I touched your heart, I know I did something when you when you rolled up on me a jazz and Jeff's cubby was like, oh kid, that right there when you said I was like, yeah, I did something. Questions reserved. You don't say you know. So if you say something, it's like, I'm excited about stuff. I'm excited about stuff. What would you consider your what's a hard market? Have you ever met a market place in which they're like like down South for instance? Really every crowd I get into, I rip it down. That's what I do, no matter where. It's that, no matter what what the situation is, because my whole attitude was know what's going on in that city, that city. Don't care about what's going on in New York. They care about what's going on in that city. So find the DJ that's there, find out what's going on. And when he when he tells you what's going on. You know what's going on. Bring that DJ out, show the respect to that DJ, put him on stage, and let everybody know this is just the city's DJ. You know what I'm saying. You were guessing their house, and with that all the information from different places becoming to me, I would staying on top of what's going on over here, what's going on with this side of the country. With I was it was just the way I did things. And with me doing that, with me going to experience it and do it, it made me learn how to stay do it everywhere else. So I never had a got booed. Never a crowd walked out on me, never been a thing where people wasn't happy or somebody says some crazy shit and the crowd or through something at me. Never been under that. It always been people happy, And I'm blessed. I'm very happy for that. I'm very blessed in that way for that to happen, because, like I said, I'm a fan of it, and I know how I want to feel. If I paid my money, I gotta drive to get there. If I have a car, I gotta buy clothes to where to be there. I gotta pay to get in. I got to buy drinks. If somebody said, got a bottom of drink and I'm la, I might have had to hire a babysit or something too. Like all these things I got to do because kicking pleases in the building. How do I not give the best out of getting you know what I'm saying, Like I think like that, And then there's a reversal way. People don't think about what you had to do to get to the event. If you had traffic, launt your bags, you know, did you eat? Are you sick? Did you feel? All they do was the episode I wanted. I want my show. I want what I paid for. I paid for that. They don't know nothing. So it works both ways. There was a moment in two thousand. There was a moment in two thousand and five and which for the very first time I played the horn intro to Troy and I didn't get that scream yeah, like you know what happens like when you play that intro when you used to play the intro, Like the choice is yours and you know for the longest, Like one of my signature things would be like play Troy right after, like scenario who's that ramp and the place like start high fiveing and crying and hugging, And there was a moment where that didn't happen, and I was like, oh shit, I gotta adjust and adjust, like I never had a Quiet Troy moment in my life. How long did it take you to really truly adjust to be in an open format DJ and like embrace things, because you know, as as open minded as I would like our listeners to think I am, you know, and I've explained this before on the show that as as an individual course, we know that we have our opinions and what good music is and what bad music is. But then as a DJ, I have opinion on what is effective for my DJ set and not affective for my DJ set, And oftentimes with those four things good, bad, effective, and non effective, Like what's effective for my DJ sets now is stuff that I personally wouldn't listen to, but I know works for my set, right, And so you know, there's like maybe a year or two where I just wrestled with a damn do I just or do I just like fight and only play to my audience? Like? How long did it take you to just start adjusting to a new atmosphere and new generations. It's played because I hate that I play that only. But it's not about me, I'm saying. It's it's about that that boom and you know, so that right there automatically makes you know that you have to step out of your own personal feeling and adjust to what they want, because that's and result a lot of DJ sometimes they missed the mark because they feel like they don't like this record, so it shouldn't be played at the end of the day, you know, Like I said, that's stuff that I might play that I don't. I don't really care for much too, but I see, but I'll see a crowd go crazy to it, and it'll make me like it. I might not even like the song at first, but once I see a crowd lose it, lose it to it, It'll maybe say, all right, well, I could adjust to it all. You know, it will make me lacking in some kind of way. But let me ask you, and I'll let's use an example from twenty five years ago, so you don't have to be like now, like oh man, fuck I Spice or whatever. I don't know, but it is there an album that is there a song that you acknowledge as a classic now that maybe twenty five years ago you were like, I'm not feeling this like it took you long to like adjust to it. Biggie Biggie Biggie, you don't like half times loved it. I hated the hook. You didn't mean it was a smart hook. I hated the hook at first. At first I couldn't stand the hook. Biggie Biggie Biggie, can't. I just couldn't stay. I just didn't like it. But the record was dope. The loop, you know, you know, say the record was dope, so it made and then after you I guess you hearing a certain why didn't you started like And then after a while I was like, oh yeah, But at first it was right there. I should have did a different hook, but I was wrong. It was effective. It was effective, you know. And sometimes a lot of times I guess what's going to be a hit, But you know, I'm not wrote by. Sometimes I'll miss you know what I'm saying. You know, I would like listening, but sometimes I'm missing what it is. You know. But me and you would have never made a laugh fee taffeebat. We would have never wrote that, not that it's bad for them. We would have never did that. We would have probably passed it on it. But look, I fronted on Laughy Taffy for its initial run, right, and it's a classic. When I I was gonna say I played Laughy Taffy the first time I did the Gold Party for the Carters, I was like, all right, let me reach into my second generation Southern bag that I would have otherwise ignored on my own gigs. Right, and just the way that they were going to ape shit about it, I was like, yo, I was wrong. Like if I played Laughy Taffy. Uh, the snap records they lose, they got their mind. It don't matter where age it is, I'm saying, because it was just that time and moment, you know what I'm saying. And most dance records like that boarded down records for some reason, it just works. Or you went there briefly. But of course you're you're tenure with I mean, would you consider yourself a juice cup? Remember? Or no? Okay? I was just saw a cold chilling bears. Uh got me Granddaddy, I you and business brother dom Michelle a production Uh. He had a production deal and It was crazy because when Bears got me that there, I wasn't even looking for I'm deal. I wasn't even thinking about what I'm dealing. And I remember I was leaving the studio fifty four Bars pulled up on me with a car right on the corner and he said, oh kid, we'll get you out and there shut up. Shut up. So then one day he came in, they see me on rucker. A matter of fact, the day that he pulled up on me a rucker, he said, kid, come in, coome here, gonna show you something and he played you god without still Bears, you bugget, you really gonna put this out? That's what I said, you really gonna put this out? He was like why why? And he put the record out. We all tour crowd losing their body. I was playing, yo, pull it off, and it worked and he got me by dell Like I said, even what the deal? You got me the deal because I was hot. He could have gave that deal to anybody else that was a real rapper, you know. So I was robbing on the record of the tape, so that I was trying to be a rapper, like even with Bible about right now, Bob. I'm not trying to be a rapper on stage. I just wanted to music in the world. But at the time, you know, he could have gave that to somebody that really really was good, you know what I'm saying, But he, you know, he really gave it the bid. I'm always gonna be a dead to day. I really appreciated that. You know, have you DJ for a I don't want to say a pedestrian rapper, but I mean, I know you are a kid capree like you DJ your own, but have you done any any ten years with like NMC that needs like I know a few times like Biggie. We'll go back and forth on DJs and whatnot. A pity me joint was me and Rock Kim did this tour. Oh okay, this was a crazy taught me and Rock Kim did when I went on tour with Salt Pepper. That's right, you were DJ DJ for Salt Pepper. DJ for Kim played the very first tour, the Public Get to Be h Greatest Hip Hop Show tour. That was thirteen groups on that tour. I was helping him on that, but I never really played behind a lot of people care arrests want of course, but not really a whole lot of people because people always looked at me as a one man band. I guess, I guess that's what it is. I guess the perception is that he didn't he want to play for nobody behind you know, if behind nobody so but yeah, but I be all m when I went on tour with him, I didn't play behind him, but I went on tour with them as a matter of fact. But Jennifer Lopez, she wanted me behind him. Like there's a lot of people that reached out. It just didn't work out because of time, and I felt like it me and Kenchrick Mamm would have went on tour together. You know the Politzer Ward album you put me on ass the only hip hop album I want to Polyzzer Warm, deeply great. He put me a voice, he put my voices in place around the country I've never been to. So I'm deeply and gretted for that, grateful for that and loved the fact that he did that. And when I was in the studio with him, I asked, I said, oh, you could have got deep DJ Battlecat or you know DJ Pooh. These dudes a legend. You could have got them on the album West Coast. You know. He was like, yo, I love the dudes. And every day he was like, but I know what you did for the music business. I know what you did for DJs. I know what you did. I wanted that authenticity or this album. I was like, Wow, he really knew who he was, so I didn't have to really explain that he would have got it and he put me on that album. And how crazy was the effect afterwards? Amazing? Man, I couldn't believe it. It was like it was crazy, you know. And keep in mind he brought me to They might be kids that don't know about kicking Pree never had to kick Spain, don't know nothing about me. He brought me to those people, you know what I'm saying. Like I said, he put my voices in countries I've never been to. It's the Pulitzer album like it never no ever, no other hip hop album ever in history. This is a milestone. So she could have did so much more like going on toward each other, and it would He didn't need me, of course, because you know he is what he did that every would been me and him together just doing certain things. It would have been, it would have been special. So but like I said, he's already special, so it was all good. Keep talking about your transition into the production game. I was always making peace. My first album that Biz got me. It says biz production bids produced. But I produced the album be and Kobe, and then I produced the soundtrack the Streets album with Jay and did the whole album. And then I just did this album about the love album, the Love Album in the pandemic. I'm seeing a lot of ship to stuff that I was. I didn't agree with it. I said, you know, let me just do something different and I won't slack key and came out good. I've recorded it, go out of my head on my shoulder and said keep going. So I just end up doing an album. I put slack Key out and how it I got the response I wanted to album. Would have never seen the out a light of day. But it was good response. And I put down my great response and I haven't got what complained about it. Not a different artist Snoop and different people w congratulated me. Nobody seen this covering because of robbing on it my last album twenty four years ago. You know, music business is different. I had everything against me with this album, but I didn't I didn't care about that. I just wanted to put it out, and you know it worked out. But yeah, I just gotta keep going with it. I wanted to ask you particularly about Nothing but Love Heavy du do you remember what do you remember about that session working on him Nothing but Love? It was a different beat, and when we went in the studio it I just said it didn't match what I was trying to do with him. So I changed it, and I went in my bag and pulled out the eight Games and put the eight Games on the bass drums. And then he caught right his block and he couldn't write. He couldn't write. So then so I wrote the half. I wrote half of the second verse, and I wrote I wote half of the second version. I wrote the last verse, and then we end up doing the record, and then the CCNY tragedy happened. But the nine people died. One of my friends, Jue, he was one of the people that passed away. You were there at TCN one. No, my daughter's mother, she was there. She was putting bodies out. She pulled father MC's daughter's mother father MC's girl who was pregnant at the time, and she passed away. She pulled her out. Oh wow, yeah, you my friend. He was the only dude there was only there's only two castles in New York. One of yards just one of my block and my block, kids with Terraces, is where they made the movie the water was at. So you look if you wished to wash the movie the waters, you see my block the wrong kids of Terracet. This castle he lived in. He was twenty five years old. Ever had sex. He was waiting until you had the one a wife before he had sex. And it was killed in this CCN wild thing. And I remember Heavy D had a show with the Garden and he was cause he had something to do with the event. He just wasn't there, but he was one of the promoters and he has played and he was like, yo, I'm not gonna take responsibility, but I feel bad of what happened to everybody back Beloved for the crowd, and he dropped up Beloved and the crowd lost. They goddamn, I was standing rights or the stay. The crowd lost it. That's what I do. I gave his last hit is a big hit that was his biggest That was his last hit record before he passed away. Damn you did that. Damn it's crazy. The first time I saw you spend you would come to the event with like at least eight crates, fifteen The level yep that I've never seen, the dizzy and level of how you would organize records or whatever. That's why would Jeff jazzy. Jeff would try to convince me to be on Serato and that was so hard to make that transition. That's who's saying. I like the fact that I had fifteen crates and I wanted to create catch the record. At the last second, it dropped the needleway and it just looked crazy to the crowd. So I thought if I got rid of that and went to the computer, it wouldn't be that same excitement. And Jeff will always say, O, kid, gotta go on the computer. You gotta do you know what I'm saying, Survival ship so you relate to the Surato game. Oh yeah, Okay, I ain't started survival getting this so six so Death Comedy Jam came back and Mike Epsows hostsman, and they asked me if I will produce the beats on Deaf Comedy Jam because they didn't want to clear the death Jam records, right, So I produced all the beats the how do I play? Put it in Survival? I put the beat of Survival and I did the show. Then I started putting the break piece of Savito, and I put the reggae records and I put the old s reggae and next thing, you know, every day was a survival. Got rid of the records, and now I was good. And then I see the crowds in my show still reacting the same way then when I had the record, so I was good. How irksome is it for you to watch any of the retro Deaf Comedy Jam shows? And like, for me, the best part of the show is when you start doing the Llo breakdown thing. And you know, of course when it came on DVD and now that it's streaming and even on YouTube, you know, they put like interstitial music over it, like so you're trying to imagine what they're dancing to. I can't stand it. I hate it. I hate it's it's it's the cleverses, it's the money, it's you know, it's a lot of money. You would think that their death Jam records. It would be all right for deaf comedy jam the playing, but I thought that way. They don't go that way. It's whoever was the publish it. You know, you gotta go through all that shit, and some people are just beaty. Some people want what they want and they don't see the bigger picture, so they eliminated. I was making the beats and you got got around it. Yeah. I was gonna say. There's there's one comedian that I, if I recall correctly, like he made you part of the act. This brother named Talent. It's just comedy. But Talent would do this thing where he would have a scenario and needed the soundtrack to it, and he would have you play the record, yeah, and then he would do the scenario. All right, we want we want to kick it all right now. This scenario is blah blah blah, and I can never find and it's one of the funniest things ever. And I wish I could find that original. But because of music clearance issues, you know, people don't get to see so much footage from us on the road. Me and Bernie. Bernie was like my uncle. Bernie Mac was like my uncle, like him like like this, Like so I got so much footage of me and him and Bill Beverly and Chris Tucker and Eddie Griffin, all of us man just on the road and just different funny things. Man. This dude, Bernie mac Man was funny all day long. Man, just all the eight who would be on the tour bus. He'll wake up and put us Scott and cap on and he'll have you laughing, just laughing all the way into this time to do the show. Then he'll go and host the show, tear that down, get back on the tour was put the Scott and cap on with the hint again and have him laughing until you fall asleep. And then he messes with the bus driver just where the bus driver got put over because he laughed at his ass on. This dude was just a all day you just look at him and just laugh. He just it was amazing in that way. It was, you know, he was one of them dudes. It was sad to see him go too, you know. But all them, all those everybody that I tore with, everybody that was on that show, they're all my extended family. Man. We all did something. We did something great together, you know, what I'm saying, and it really touched people. Like every time we sold out somewhere, you just see the people just smiling and happy, and you know that was that was the most thing for me. How many how much good times. It was never a threat where you had to worry about crime going on, to somebody getting hurt and shot or fight breaking out. It was always fun, laughing and it was dope. Was dope. Yeah, I was gonna ask you about just the Master the mix Man. It was a while back, but I really enjoyed that show, and uh, I want to just ask you about just kind of what that experience was like getting acting, I guess as a as a judge and judging other DJs. Man, how was that experience? It was dope. I was always like the cyber cow. I was very serious. I was ready straight because I had to worry about the reason why I was so serious was because they had to worry about my condensis. I had to worry about, you know that because I was I had to worry about. I wanted to be truthful. You know, sound showed no favoritism. I didn't want to show like I didn't know what I was talking about or you know any that I wanted to be what it was and it worked out. We was on for two seasons on BT and then we was on one season of VH one. My me, personally, I think they should have kept that show going. You know, I know what issues they had, but they should have kept that show going because what it did you have? It was like Mel starter as you see right now. Had Mel started I've been on that show, we don't know if we would have seen him as quick as we did. But because he was on that show and he's super talented, so that show got a chance six you know, show the world who these dudes are. The same way in Death Comedy Jam. Remember before Death Comedy Jam was Richard Pryor Red Fox, Eddie Murphy. You know, a couple of other dudes sprinkle here for comedy you if you didn't, wasn't enough dudes, you know. So when we got Death Comedy Jam, we displayed all this cleft of all these different people. Now it became bigger. And that's the same thing with Master the Mix. It was all these different DJs, Chris Card and you know Jco. All these dudes do a readers. Now, you know what I'm saying because of that show. Being on that show, so it was definitely a dope show. They definitely should the chapter. They some things I would have changed around, how to change some things around. I ain't think that. I didn't really agree with yeah, but you know, it is what it is. And then I was on another show. Did you know? I was on a Growing Up pip Hop? I missed that one now now about doing it and I did it because of my Yeah, I only did one season. I only did one season. I was out. I have got to be out of TV. Speaking of which, talk about VENA. First of all, I'm surprised we got this whole episode without any jokes of me taking your last name. Love is actually your last name, correct, real last name. Is why the name of album is called the Love of Course Love. Yeah, we'll talk talk about what it's like like collaborating with your daughter and now that she has has you know, planted her seeds and is starting her story right now, Like what what is that? What is that like for you to see her caring on the legacy. At first, you know, I know the music business, I know what's in the music business. I know everything, and normally you know on what you can in that. You know what I'm saying. You don't want them to go through certain But the way she grew up, how what she showed me, how she handled herself, how she do things. She has a skin for it. Now did she has the talent for it? Didn't know? And I wasn't gonna push her off on people just because she's my daughter. She had to prove to me that she really could do a thing. And she came to me with this record where she did mind his best to be over with her little boyfriend at the time, and the record was dope. But then she did a record that she wrote from Ryana called Air that never got to Beyhan and she ended up recording to herself and that's when the one I was like, Okay, she's ready, and from there on she's been moving there. But how she carry herself, how she treat people, the smile she keep on her face, how she talked, the way she looked at stuff. She's just like me. She is, she respects what it is. And then she see how her father moved. That's another thing. She see how her father moved. How different people treat me, you know, and it makes it automatically molds your child when they see it. When they around the experience said, they always home when they have around to see things that they're gonna go with it, they go with but when they get a chance to really see everything, it kind of mows them. And that's what happened. She really know what she's doing, and she's talented. She really works hard. It's more of the talent. She really really works hard, you know. And I just wanted her to really just be happy and and all she's happy. That's it, you know. This music business, like I said, if you let it gets to you, it will, you know. And sometimes things don't work out the way you want when you wanted to work out, you know. And that's a part of the growing. That's a part of the that's a part of appreciating the journey, you know, Matt, I always wanted to ask you one of my favorite intros of all times to an album is of Sex and Violence BDP. Do you remember like where y'all was y'all recorded that when you recorded whoops, right, I always start y'all did that on purpose to make it like that's how parties are. Like? What was it to begin another album? Yeah, it's the very the very first joint with him and Freddy Fox, nicest movie, right, Yeah, I was on it. I wasn't on that. Nah, you on that. At the end that lady and gentlemen give it off of my motherfucker man whoops and the record stops. It's like, oh, y'all know what they're covering from blowing up on the parties? Not that right, go back to go back and check that. Nah, that's I love that shit. Yeah. So like for you, and I know it's the cliche to ask, but like you know, being though, this is Hip Hops fiftieth year and Jeff always jokes with me that no one's going to celebrate the fifty first, so we got to celebrate it now. Yeah, for you, you know, is there anything that you you've yea to check off in in your bucket list that you haven't achieved yet, Like, you know, what would you like to see the culture go or for you to do or do you just you know, want to stop and chill And you know, well, I'll tell you this, Well, the one thing I haven't got a chance to do as many things I did would sell a platinum album or sell a gold album. You know I only had three albums in my career. Make it record has never been my brand and butter I do it because I want to do it, you know what I'm saying. But I the Love album. It has so many layers too, of my mother's on the fun covered with the big ass for my daughter's on the on the record. I produced every day road everything. I didn't wonder any artists it's hot, say you'll come get on my ship to sell it and none of that. I did every day myself, with so many layers to it. And I didn't put it out for it to go platinum and gold. I put it out to put something in the world. But I would like to see it really do good. I would like to see the world hear this album. And really, I'm saying and just absorbing because I haven't got a bad complaint one time since I put it out. You know, on the Internet, they're gonna say whatever they want. I haven't got one of those yet, not one, you know what I'm saying. So with that being said, the frustrate part for me is that I know everybody hasn't hurt it. I know everybody don't know what's did. There's people that are covering me right now. You know, I remember when you had your your two albums out, you didn't hit the third one, like you know, that's how I know. It's like, you know, that's the frustrate part. But I follow you on ig and doing the Pandemic. You know, you didn't even know it was in the room, watching in the studio and making your beats and as you were making the record and whatnot. So you know, it's it's finally good to see the fruition of it. Your mom actually has a humongous afro yo like she was definitely, definitely big, and her last name is Love. I might be a long lost cousin. I don't know, it might be exactly brother, Thank you man. You know, I got to see very briefly at the at LL's Rock the Bells Festival, which it was really like a kind of amazing family reunion, like to be backstage and literally there's an era of hip hop that I've yet to meet, so you know, to be backstage and you're seeing like the Fearless four and and the Fantastic Romantic five and the Cold Crush Brothers, and yeah, it was We're about the experience the game was about to be Yankee Stadium for the second time. The level of the hip hop day uh Yankee Stadium. That show me Snoop Nas, Whiskalifa, one, DMC, Fat Joe, Ace Boogie, a whole bunch of people. So hip hop's just coming to the Bronx. It combably new hometown. Come to the hometown and smash it down. First time I did Yankee Stadium was when I did it for Nelson Mandela when he came out of jail and he did right celebrate for me. Yank you staying me and carest when you did it, and that was that was a Mouston. So we're back again and I'm gonna come in just do my thing. I'm pull off something special too. When I pull out this thing that I would pull out, it's going to shake the room. So I'm hope so yeah, but it's gonna be dope. Thank you staying home. Man can't wait. Well, ladies and gentlemen, kick Capri on question of supreme Thank you man for everything. Thank you, Thank you man. Straight you know you you your your tapes have entertained me. I've seen you many times like rock shows. I've took notes and you know you've been nothing but but genuine and really really kind and and dope to me. Any nerdy questions I had over the years, You've answered them. And I thank you for that, and thank you for doing our show man, thank you for having me. Man, I got a chance to see you. This was in Toronto some years back. We were opening Me and nine for opening for you and Rock Him. You were spending for Rock Him in Toronto and that was one of the best brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we opened up. It was it wasn't a little brother, that was just me. I was doing my solo record at the time. A ninth was spinning for me. Okay, so and but we opened up for Rock Him and Kid and masterclass Man. It was just I was just sitting backstage taking notes. So thank you for everything, brother, for I appreciate that. Little brother. You gotta come out another joint. No, No, we working, were working, brother, were working well on behalf of Sugar Stephen. It was the quietest episode of Quest Love Supreme ever. I wonder why I'm just enjoying the quiet, man, enjoying the quiet. Yeah, Ki kick Capri, thank you for rep in New York so well all these years in New Jersey. Heyn's the box, Baby, It's the Box. There you go, Yankee. Yeah, so on behalf and Sugar Steven, I'm paid, Bill and Tilt. This is quest Love and the great legendary Jack Aprie of course, Love Supri. Shout out to Brittany and Jake holding us down and our good friends at iHeart Radio. And we'll see you on the next proground, all right. Peace whatsch? Love Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio. For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.