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Hello and welcome to Palace Intrigue. I am your host,
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Mark Francis. Ricky Gervais says he still does not know
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whether he would accept a knighthood, but the comedian has
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identified a few circumstances that might persuade him. In comments
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shared on his YouTube channel, Gervais said, If my mum
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was alive, I'd definitely do it. Would I do it now?
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Do I care? Does it matter? It doesn't matter. If
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it was close to my house, I might. Gervais described
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himself as neither a royalist nor an opponent of the monarchy.
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He compared the institution to tourism and called the idea
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of receiving a knighthood so irrelevant. There is, however, another
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possible incentive, annoying his critics. Oh, I might do it
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to annoy people. Maybe I would. All the people that
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would be really annoyed. That would just tip the balance.
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I like that. It's my favorite. If a knighthood meant
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like it did in the olden days, if I could
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ride around on a big horse with a sword, I'd
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take it. Gervais even joked that Buckingham Palace may already
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be trying to reach him. For all you know, they're
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calling me all the time and I'm going, nah. King
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Charles is facing criticism over how Buckingham Palace describes his
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relationship with the Church of England and Britain's other faiths.
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The debate was triggered by wording in the latest Sovereign
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Grant annual report. Instead of describing Charles simply by the
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traditional title, Defender of the Faith, the report says, His
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Majesty is Supreme Governor of the Church of England and
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protects the space for faith within the multi-faith nation. That
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change has upset some traditionalists. Gavin Ashenden, a former chaplain
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to Queen Elizabeth, has accused Charles of deserting Christians and
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abandoning part of his religious responsibility that comes with being monarch.
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Royal commentator Richard Fitzwilliams told Fox News that the wording
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has created considerable controversy. He said the traditional title should
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have remained, arguing... Defender of the Faith could have been
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followed by a language acknowledging modern Britain's many religions. Fitzwilliams
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was particularly unimpressed with the new phrase, saying, Whoever wrote
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Protects the Space for Faith Within the Multifaith Nation is
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no credit to the English language as this phrase is
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both weak and woke. Royal author Christopher Anderson says, The
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current king has long believed that no one religion has
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all the answers. He also knows that if he is
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going to have a big tent reign, then he can't
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leave non-Christians standing out in the cold. He's going to
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have to let Muslims and Hindus and Jews and Buddhists inside.
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Anderson argues that William may eventually go further than his
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father in reconsidering the monarch's traditional religious identity. He points
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to an incident when William enrolled at Eton in 1995
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and reportedly looked to his father for guidance when asked
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to write down his religion. Anderson concludes, if that is
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any indication, it is obvious that once they are king
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and queen, William and Kate will in all likelihood move
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to phase out the defender of the faith role altogether.
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Royal broadcaster Ian Pelham-Turner offered a similar assessment, saying, Fitzwilliams
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takes the opposite view and argues that weakening the monarch's
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connection with the Church of England would be a mistake.
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He said, Queen Elizabeth memorably compared the Church of England
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to an umbrella under which other faiths could flourish. The
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Church of England is clearly extremely weak. It is emphatically
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not in the royal family's interest, especially as we are
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the only monarchy in Europe to have a coronation to
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weaken it further. Charles may feel obligated to attend Prince
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Harry's and Victor's games in Birmingham next year, despite the
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latest disagreement between Buckingham Palace and the Sussexes. Harry has
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reportedly wanted his father at the opening ceremony of the
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2027 Games for some time. The event will be held
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primarily at Birmingham's National Exhibition Centre from July 10th through
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July 17th, with the opening ceremony scheduled for July 10th.
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Royal commentator Richard Fitzwilliams told the Daily Express, If other
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countries followed Uganda in leaving Invictus, this would be serious.
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Harry wants King Charles to open the Games. Since the
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King is commander-in-chief of the armed forces, and Invictus is
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an important military charity, he may well feel obliged to
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whatever his private views. On the other hand, the Sussexes'
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outrageous decision to come to Britain, for reasons which are
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still hotly debated, has led to a formal statement from
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the King which has reportedly displeased them. With the obvious
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danger that the royal family's work will be overshadowed by
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the unpredictable duo, and that, whereas relations could improve, they
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could also worsen, the future is unpredictable. Since Harry has
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lost Centre Bali and Africa Parks, he is left with
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Invictus as his major charitable activity. The king's former gardener
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says becoming monarch did not change the king nearly as
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much as he expected. Jack Stookes, who spent more than
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20 years working at Highgrove, recalled one awkward encounter shortly
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after Queen Elizabeth died and Charles became king. There had
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been a leak in Highgrove's irrigation system, something Stookes says
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Charles would have taken seriously because of his dislike of waste.
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Stukes said, we had a call about a leak in
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the irrigation system. The king hates any sort of waste,
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and losing water like this is a big no-no, so
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the gardeners rushed to fix it. While Stukes was working
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inside a bush, he heard someone approaching and suddenly realized
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it was Charles. And then muscle memory took over. I
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was a bit thrown, so I said, good evening, your highness,
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Stukes recalled. There was just one problem. Charles was no
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longer his royal highness, he was his majesty. Stukes immediately
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realized what he had done. As soon as I said it,
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I realized my mistake and panicked, and in a moment
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ended up swearing. He quickly corrected himself and addressed Charles
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as Your Majesty. But according to Stokes, the king was
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completely relaxed about the mistake. He was completely fine about it.
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He just told me it was okay and not to worry.
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He said he was still getting used to the change
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in title as well. He's a very kind man, and
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this is just one example of how understanding he is.
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I remember thinking that when Charles became king, they wouldn't
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see him as much. I thought his relaxed approach to
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life at home would change, but it didn't. He still
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spent a lot of time with the gardeners and was
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very hands-on. That didn't change, even when he took the crown.
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More palace in just a moment. Historian and royal author
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Andrew Lowney tells News 24, My advice to Harry and Meghan,
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and it would be the same advice to the Yorks,
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is to give up their titles and retire to basically
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a non-royal life. Not to monetize their royal position, but
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to actually get proper careers based on their abilities. He
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then broadened that criticism to include Andrew and Sarah Ferguson.
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The problem is that none of those four people have
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any great ability, which is why they've had to use
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their royal status to make money. I think the advice
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would be to disassociate yourself from the royal family. I
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think William will eventually get rid of titles for those
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except in the direct line of succession. He will want
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a much smaller, more European-style monarchy. He's keen to get
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started with that sooner rather than later. He's rather frustrated
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because that his father hasn't made the changes that he
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thinks are necessary. Lowney believes the monarchy itself is approaching
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an important moment. I think they're at a crossroads. I mean,
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they can modernise, they can reform, they can win back
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trust and respect of the British public, which has been
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lost through the activities of people like Andrew and Sarah Ferguson,
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by being more transparent and accountable. There's a whole series
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of things that they could do. I think if they
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were to reform and make themselves fit for purpose in
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the 21st century, then I think they have a bright
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future ahead of them. But if they continue to stick
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their head in the sand to not complain or to
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explain and to carry on as they are with too
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little too late in terms of changes, then I think
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they're in the last chance saloon. And there you have it.
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