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Calorogus Shark Media. Hello and welcome to Palace Intrigue Game
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your host Mark Francis. Royal biographer Tom Bauer says Prince
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Harry could in theory find a route back into the
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Royal fold, but only if he came back alone. Speaking
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on The Royalist Podcast, Bauer argued there may be a
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world in which Harry could be given a role and
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brought back into the institution, but said that idea falls
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apart as long as Meghan remains in the picture. Bauer,
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whose book Betrayal powered a seat in the fight for
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the future of the Royal Family, has already stirred a controversy,
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has long taken a hard line on the Sussexes. On
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the podcast, host Tom Sykes raised the argument also floated
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by Tina Brown, that the Royal Family might be better
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off bringing Harry and Meghan back into a limited international
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role rather than keeping them at arm's length. Baoer was blunt.
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I think Harry would like that solution, he said, but
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Meghan definitely would not want to live in London. She
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doesn't want to be part of Britain. She wants to
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be a star in California. So I think that as
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long as they're married. This is a completely untenable solution.
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Bauer also said it's only a recipe for more and
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more sensational danger because Megan would always look for a
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way to complain. She can't be satisfied. She can't she
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doesn't want to be part of the British royal family.
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He went on to suggest that even if some kind
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of return were attempted, the British public would not be receptive.
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Referring to Tina Brown's view, Baoer said she did not
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fully grasp the mood in Britain, adding even if she groveled,
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they'd feel, well, you're not growfling enough. They're really angry
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with her. So I don't believe that is the solution.
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Whatever you do with the Sussexes, you couldn't rely on
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them to be discreet and silent and obediate for very
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long because of what their own needs. Selfishness in the
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end would trump everything that the Windsors might offer them.
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And that is the problem. There's no easy solution, if
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there is a solution at all. The trouble really is
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that both King Charles and Prince William haven't found a
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way to neutralize the danger and I don't know if
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there is a way that's the problem. Radar Online reported
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the Prince Harry and Meghan Mikel appeared to have a
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tense exchange during the recent trip to Jordan, with the
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outlet suggesting the moment reflected deeper strain behind the scenes.
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The couple had traveled to the country for a two
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day visit focused on global health and humanitarian work, including
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an appearance at the Zatari refugee camp near a Man
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and a discussion forum hosted by the World Health Organization.
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According to the report, one inside a claim that during
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a football activity at the youth center, the pair exchanged
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a few sharp words. For a brief moment, Harry and
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Meghan exchanged intense words, Saw said. Whether it was the
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busy forty eight hour schedule or another matter can't be known,
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but the exchange raised eyebrows. A representative for the Sussex's
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denied there was any confrontation during the trip or any
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trouble in the marriage. Still, the report claims Meghan quickly
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shifted back into public facing mode after the moment, with
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one source alleging this was Megan's show. Harry looked as
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if it was just along for the ride. Radar also
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suggests Meghan used the trip to strength and international connections,
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particularly during the WHO event, where the report says she
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was speaking with United Nations representatives. One source claimed that
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Megan has long had ambitions in that direction, saying there
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were several UN representatives at the WHO forum and she
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seemed keen to network, so she wasn't going to let
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any personal issues get in the way. In the eyepaper,
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James Ball writes producing a Netflix drama about Polo was
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hardly a clean break from British aristocracy. He tells us
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it doesn't necessarily feel like television or even entertainment is
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truly their route to happiness. They certainly seem to have
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struggled to make audiences happy with Love Meghan, the lifestyle
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show the couple made for Netflix, was supposed to be
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about the joys of homey domesticity, but guest segments often
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looked like hostage videos. While the show wasn't actually painful
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to watch, it was painfully boring. Harry's biggest contribution to
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the couple's old Netflix deal, apart from his Invictor's Game series,
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was a documentary about Polo, in which he Barre featured
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and which sunk without a trace. Despite this, Netflix and
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the Sussexes alike are returning to the world of Polo,
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this time as a drama which the former Royals will
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executive produce. Is this what starting afresh looks like? Though? Really,
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this whole phase of Harry and Meghan's life was supposed
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to be about carving out an income and an identity
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free of the British Royal family. Polo is never going
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to mark a clean break from the British aristocracy, even
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if the show is somehow a triumph heated rivalry after all,
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showed audiences combined to TV dramas about sports they know
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and care nothing of if the plot is right. But
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even if this show somehow breaks the trend of the
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Sussex's subpar television run, it isn't going to do anything
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to carve out an independent identity for them. Polo is
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the stuff of windsor not Montecito. The Sussexes are rapidly
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getting caught in the same trap that seems to catch
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anyone cut a drift of the British royal family, used
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to a certain lifestyle and in need of the funds
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to sustain it. They have to find an income. They
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have to find that all anyone who wants to finance
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them is only interested in their connection to the institution
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they have just left. The more they try to define
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themselves on their own terms, the more it turns out
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their identity is just semi detached. British Royalty More Palace
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in just a moment, Buckingham Palace has announced a series
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of garden parties to be held this summer at both
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Buckingham Palace and the Palace of holyrood House. Three events
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are scheduled to take place in London, with a fourth
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to be held in Edinburgh. The parties are intended to
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recognize frontline workers from across the UK, with the first
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event of the season placing particular emphasis on their contribution.
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The gatherings will celebrate individuals who serve their communities through volunteering,
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charitable work and roles in the emergency services. The London
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garden parties are set to take place on May sixth, eighth,
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and twelfth, while the event Palace of Holyrood House in
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Edinburgh will be held on June thirtieth. In addition to
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the main events, two themed garden parties will also take
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place over the summer. One will mark the fiftieth anniversary
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of the King's trial, while the other will be the
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annual Not Forgotten Association Guarden Party, both hosted at Buckingham Palace.
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Details which members of the royal family will attend or
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expected to be confirmed on the day of each event.
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The announcement comes amid reports that Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie
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may not attend Royal Ascot this year. One source said,
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I've spoken to my friend who works at ASCOT and
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they said the goals have been told they can't be
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there this year. Beatrice has taken at the hardest. She's
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been completely blindsided by all of this. A separate source
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added Ascot is out of the question and claimed the
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royals have been told they can't be photographed with the
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girls for the rest of the year. The King is
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facing criticism from some commentators after a series of royal
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honors were revoked, prompting debate about the value of the system.
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According to notices published in the UK's official public record,
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The Gazette, the King has ordered the removal of several
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honors from recipients of the Order of the British Empire
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in recent weeks. Such removals typically occur when recipients have
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been convicted of crimes, found guilty of misconduct, or disciplined
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by professional regulators. Among those stripped of an honor is
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former Scotland rugby player Stuart Hogg, whose MB was provoked
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after he admitted to abusive behavior towards his estranged wife, Gillian.
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The formal noticed states the King has directed that the
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appointment of Stuart William Hogg to be a Member of
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the Civil Division of the Most Excellent Order of the
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British Empire, dated thirtieth December twenty twenty three, shall be
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canceled and annulled, and that his name shall be raised
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from the Register of the said Order. Hogg had received
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the honor of the twenty twenty four New Year's Honors
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for services to rugby. He previously played for Glasgow Warriors,
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earned more than one hundred caps for Scotland, and toured
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three times with the British and Irish Lions. Several other
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individuals have also had their honors removed following criminal convictions
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or disciplinary rulings. Ian Ashbold, who received an MB in
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twenty sixteen, lost the award after a criminal conviction. Lloyd Hamilton,
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awarded an MBE in twenty eleven, also had his honor
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revoked following a conviction. Angela Middleton's twenty nineteen MB was
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annulled after officials concluded she had brought the honours system
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into disrepute. Nigel O'Connor, who received an MBE in twenty fifteen,
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and Tony Riley, awarded an OBE in twenty eleven, both
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lost their honors following professional censure. Paul Allen Rose, founder
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of Barrows Al Sanctuary in Cumbria, had his MB removed
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after he was convicted of animal welfare offenses. Rose was
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sentenced in May twenty twenty four off depleting guilty to
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two counts of causing unnecessarily suffering to a protected animal
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and one count of failing to insure animal welfare under
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the Animal Welfare Act. Other recipients whose honors were revoked
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included Annat Shah, who had received an OBE in twenty twenty,
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and Graham Trueheller, who had been awarded an MB in
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twenty ten. Both lost their distinctions after findings that their
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conduct brought the honors system into disrepute. Some Royal observers say.
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The number of removals sparked discussion about the meaning and
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value of such awards. One source familiar with the honor
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system said, when you see this many titles being canceled
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in such a short time, it inevitably leads some people
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to ask whether the whole system begins to look a
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bit meaningless. And there you have it. Play to email
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my thanks to John McDermott. This is Palace Intrigue and
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