WEBVTT
1
00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:11.439
Ah Calorougus Shark media at lower Welcome to palace, intrigue.
2
00:00:11.439 --> 00:00:14.560
I am your host, Mark Francis. King Charles was briefly
3
00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:17.719
heckled over his brother Andrew as he greeted crowds in
4
00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:21.199
the northwest of England on Monday. The moment unfolded shortly
5
00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:24.000
after King Charles arrived by train in Clitheroe and began
6
00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:26.760
meeting members of the public. As he moved along the
7
00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.600
line of well wishers, a man called out, Charles, how
8
00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:32.439
long have you known about Andrew and Epstein. It was
9
00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:35.200
not clear whether the King heard the shout. Those Nearbyah
10
00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:38.359
responded with groans, boos and calls to silence the heckler,
11
00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:40.960
before the noise gave way to cheers of Hip, Hip,
12
00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:43.600
hohay and chants of God save the King from the
13
00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:47.759
wider crowd. The gathering included school children, parents and local
14
00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:50.799
residents who had assembled at the station, the head of
15
00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:53.640
a series of engagements that would later take the King
16
00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:57.000
onto the Preston area. It was the second time in
17
00:00:57.039 --> 00:00:59.600
a week that Charles has faced public questions while out
18
00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:02.399
on a fish duties about his brother, Prince Andrew and
19
00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:05.239
his links to the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
20
00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:08.319
The Prince and Princess of Wales have said they are
21
00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:13.000
deeply concerned by the latest revelations surrounding Epstein, marking their
22
00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:16.519
first public statement on the issue. In a statement released
23
00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:20.280
by Kensington Pallace spokesperson, Prince William and Princess Catherine were
24
00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:23.079
said to be focused on the victims following the release
25
00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.239
of new documents in the United States relating to the
26
00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:30.319
late sex offender. The spokesperson said, I can confirm the
27
00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:33.760
Prince and Princess have been deeply concerned by the continuing revelations.
28
00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:36.719
Their thoughts remain focused on the victims. The message was
29
00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:39.599
published as Prince William prepared to begin its official visit
30
00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:43.439
to Saudi Arabia. The statement appears intended to signal concern
31
00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:47.920
while allowing attention to return to William's overseas engagement, though
32
00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:50.439
it is unlikely to put an end to questions about
33
00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:55.159
the handling of the Andrew controversy. Hello's Royal editor Emily
34
00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:58.000
Nash said, if there's one thing we know about William,
35
00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:00.680
it's that if he has something to say, will say it.
36
00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:03.000
There has been a clamor for some kind of comment
37
00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:05.400
from the heir to the throne, So this will go
38
00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:07.480
some way to answering that, even if it doesn't go
39
00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.719
quite as far as some commentators might like. There have
40
00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:13.080
also been calls for the King and William to apologize
41
00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:15.879
on behalf of the royal family for Andrew's behavior. Like
42
00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:18.680
most of us, they're learning about these allegations in real time,
43
00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:22.479
so it's a developing situation. But surely the person who
44
00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:25.479
needs to apologize and take responsibility for this whole situation
45
00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:30.080
is Andrew himself, our royal inside a deep crown in
46
00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:36.159
his substack rites two sentences carefully calibrated, perfectly blann deeply
47
00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:39.400
concerned thoughts with the victims. One might applaud the sentiment
48
00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:42.960
if one weren't utterly exhausted by the inadequacy of it all.
49
00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:47.000
But William cannot say more protocol forbids it. He cannot
50
00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:49.960
publicly demand his father act without igniting another round of
51
00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:53.960
childs versus William's speculation, and the family is quite fractured enough,
52
00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:57.039
thank you very much. The Prince knows this. His statement
53
00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:00.520
is the most he can offer without making matters considerably worse,
54
00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:05.719
which means this falls entirely to the King. Charles must speak,
55
00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:08.919
not through a spokesman, not via a carefully worded palace
56
00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:12.560
release that some junior aides spent three days drafting the
57
00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:16.840
King himself on camera to the nation, Deep Crown adds,
58
00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:19.280
let me remind you of something. The late Duke of
59
00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:21.919
Windsor once wore the crown he was king, and when
60
00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:26.120
his conduct became untenable, the family exiled him, shipped him off.
61
00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:28.680
He spent the rest of his days cozying up to
62
00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:31.599
whoever would receive him person a non grated in his
63
00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:36.000
own country, the culooser king. To save the monarchy, Deep
64
00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:38.719
CROWND suggests the King addressed the nation on live television,
65
00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:41.240
and after that speech, Charles gets in the car, drives
66
00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:44.879
to SANDRINGHND and personally supervisors Andrew's removal from the estate
67
00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:47.639
in the view of the cameras. You can sign up
68
00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:51.000
for Deep Crown's free sub stack at Deep Crown dot
69
00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:55.479
co dot uk Deepcrown dot co dot UK. In the
70
00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:58.080
Daily Mail, Aan Wilson writes, I am afraid the late
71
00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:02.319
Queen should bear some responsibility for Andrew's tawdry lifestyle, but
72
00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:06.199
it's Charles who must now apologize to Epstein's victims. In
73
00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:09.639
the circumstances, the silence from senior royals is appalling. There
74
00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:12.479
is no excuse for it. They should apologize to the
75
00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:15.680
country for Andrew's behavior as well as to Epstein's victims.
76
00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:18.800
Prince Edward's grudging attempt to do so last week at
77
00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:20.680
a conference in Du Bay, in which he said I
78
00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:23.000
think it's really important to remember the victims was not
79
00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:26.920
anything like enough. These are perilous times for the monarchy.
80
00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:29.759
They may have taken away Andrew's titles and his grand
81
00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:33.360
Windsor home, but more is needed to overcome the public's revulsion.
82
00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:36.759
The truth is that Andrew mount Batton Windsor is his
83
00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:42.079
mother's tragedy. He is her tragic flaw. Tessa Dunlop in
84
00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:44.480
The Daily Mayor wonders if Prince William can speak out
85
00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:49.519
about Andrew mount Batton Windsor, why can't the King. Dunlop writes,
86
00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:51.639
by all accounts, the King was taken aback to discover
87
00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:54.439
that the latest graphic Andrew revelations were accompanied by a
88
00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:58.680
seemingly direct intervention from His Majesty's Prime Minister, taken in
89
00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:01.759
conjunction with news that Bill and Hillary Clinton will now
90
00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:04.639
give evidence in front of the Congressional Committee at the
91
00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:06.959
same time as Andrew could be subject to another police
92
00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:11.079
investigation or served to put unwelcome pressure on his majesty.
93
00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:14.959
Prime Minister Keir Starmer's strident response and relation to the
94
00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:19.199
Andrew question has proved particularly irksome, primarily because it had
95
00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:22.399
not been run past the palace. According to one inside source,
96
00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:26.120
the King was both incandescent that Starmer suggested Andrew should
97
00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:29.360
give evidence and likewise annoyed that he had not been
98
00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:34.399
consulted beforehand. Constitutionally, political statements involving the royal family are
99
00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:37.319
usually run past the royal family, which perhaps explains by
100
00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:40.040
the Andrew question is such a festering mess. But in
101
00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:42.839
a departure from political norms, that was not the case.
102
00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:47.480
Miles from home. Retrospectively, basking in the unfettered aduletion of
103
00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:52.600
China and receptive Japan, Starmer briefly forgot his constitutional manners.
104
00:05:52.879 --> 00:05:57.959
A subconscious slipper, a deliberate side step. Constitutionally, the monarch
105
00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:00.959
should not direct or pressure anyone, including his brother, in
106
00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:05.439
legal matters. Convention demands that the sovereign remain politically neutral
107
00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:08.959
and above legal and parliamentary processes both at home and abroad.
108
00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:12.120
Last week, Prince Edward, as a mere duke, was under
109
00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:15.480
no such restriction, yet his victim focused answer suggests the
110
00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:18.560
Royal family is keen to steer away from suggestions that
111
00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:22.240
Andrew should testify. Like us, the Royal family are unsure
112
00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:25.120
of what was involved in the ex prince's nefarious relationship
113
00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:27.720
with Epstein, but they do know that the arrogant former
114
00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:30.680
Duke is loose with the truth. The only court that
115
00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:33.360
will judge whether the Windsors have dodged a curveball is
116
00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:37.040
the court of public opinion. It was Wallace Simpson's unpopularity
117
00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:40.040
in Middle England that saw government advice directly conflict with
118
00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:42.879
the wishes of Edward the Eighth. In nineteen thirty six,
119
00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:47.319
the king chose marriage over monarchy and abdicated. Today the
120
00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:49.480
stakes are not nearly as high, but nor as monarchy
121
00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:52.199
as popular. At the moment, the king, reigning over the
122
00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:56.800
demise of a fallen prince is enjoying unprecedented pole ratings, proof,
123
00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:59.800
if anywhere needed, that the public is fickle. However, the
124
00:06:59.839 --> 00:07:02.759
lwe long term royal trajectory is downwards, and if Charles
125
00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:06.839
is not careful, history might judge this Carolingian era as
126
00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:11.519
the beginning of the end of popular constitutional monarchy. More
127
00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:18.360
Palace in just a moment. Hey, if you want to
128
00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:21.680
get rid of those pesky commercials, you can get this
129
00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:25.079
show commercial free, along with hundreds of others from Kalaroga
130
00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:28.959
Shark Media, including the Norway series that's currently running, Crown
131
00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:34.000
and Controversy Norway covering the case of Marius borg Hohebi.
132
00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:35.560
And all you have to do is go up there
133
00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:38.519
on your Apple Player and hit that button that says
134
00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.720
listen uninterrupted, And for four ninety nine a month you
135
00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:44.399
get all these shows commercial free. Plus you get access
136
00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:48.639
to entire seasons before they are released to the public.
137
00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:51.680
And we really appreciate the support. Check it out and
138
00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:53.519
do it for a month free. That it's four ninety
139
00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:57.920
nine a month. The King must have been paying attention
140
00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:01.079
is Late Monday, Buckingham Palace issued a statement about the
141
00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:04.920
King's profound concern at allegations against his brother from the
142
00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:10.079
Epstein files. The statement comes as TAM's Valley police said
143
00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:12.959
they are assessing a complaint about the former Prince Andrew
144
00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:18.439
allegedly sharing confidential information with Jeffrey Epstein, a spokesperson said,
145
00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:22.759
the King has made clear in words and through unprecedented actions,
146
00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:26.360
his profound concern at allegations which continue to come to
147
00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:30.439
light in respect of mister mount Batten Windsor's conduct. While
148
00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:33.360
the specific claims in question are for mister mount Batton
149
00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.320
Windsor to address. If we are approached by Thames Valley Police,
150
00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:40.360
we stand ready to support them as you would expect.
151
00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:44.240
As was previously stated, their majesties, thoughts and sympathies have
152
00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:47.279
been and remain with the victims of any and all
153
00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:51.480
forms of abuse. In the ipaper, Peter Hunt writes Charles
154
00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:54.799
the Ditherer has one last chance to save the royal
155
00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:57.840
family from Andrew turning. A royal deaf ear is no
156
00:08:57.879 --> 00:09:00.799
longer sustainable, attractive as it might be to a dynasty
157
00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:04.080
utterly unused to being interrogated. According to Hunt, there's an
158
00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:07.720
unwritten code governing how those once universally referred to as
159
00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:13.000
subjects act around Royals. They bow Curtsey, laugh uproariously at
160
00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.000
jokes cracked by the Windsors, even when they're not side
161
00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:19.759
splittingly funny, and declear afterwards that the lengthy waiting around
162
00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:22.240
was worth it for the briefest of interactions with someone
163
00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:25.000
who's never had to worry about how they pay their mortgage.
164
00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:27.799
In what the relatives of the late Queen Elizabeth had
165
00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:30.759
grown used to, what they're much less accustomed to is
166
00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:34.720
being held to account. When I had the temerity to
167
00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:37.840
shout a question at Andrew Mountbatten Windsor in Davos in
168
00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.639
twenty fifteen, after Virginia Geoffrey first alleged she was forced
169
00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:43.759
to have sex with them at age seventeen, one of
170
00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:46.759
his senior officials remained bothered by my behavior for some
171
00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:50.559
weeks afterwards, despite it being a brief exchange with no packsmen.
172
00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:54.840
Fervor I even called the then Prince sir. The spin
173
00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:56.960
from the palace will continue to be that Charles has
174
00:09:57.000 --> 00:10:00.480
acted decisively and nailed the mount Batton Windsor problem, especially
175
00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.320
as his brother has repeatedly denied the late Virginia Geffrey's
176
00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:05.159
claims that she was forced to have sex with him.
177
00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:07.639
The king's supporters in the media will continue to echo
178
00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:10.879
this sentiment and write about how his boldness has saved
179
00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:14.080
the monarchy. The reality is not quite so rosy. At
180
00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:16.919
every juncture in this drawn out saga, The Palace have
181
00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:19.840
done the minimum required to ensure the focus moved away
182
00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:23.519
from the institution and remained on Mount Batten Windsor's catastrophic
183
00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:26.919
lack of judgment. If he wants the attention to remain
184
00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:30.159
on his brother, Charles, the Ditherer will have to act. Remember,
185
00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:33.320
the man photographed crouching over an unidentified woman in what
186
00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:36.120
appears to be Epstein's New York mansion remains eighth in
187
00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:39.679
line to the British throne, unbelievable in any world other
188
00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:42.919
than that occupied by the royals. The King will have
189
00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:45.039
to tell the government he's happy for legislation to be
190
00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:48.440
passed to remove Mount Batten Windsor from the line of succession.
191
00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:51.559
This would involve not only formally removing Mount Batton Windsor
192
00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:54.639
as a Councilor of state, someone who deputizes for the
193
00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:57.600
monarch when he is absent, but also asking the consent
194
00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:01.080
of fourteen other states worldwide where child is head of state.
195
00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:04.279
To deal with it properly. Charles must also issue a
196
00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:07.399
public statement agreeing with his Prime Minister. The Mount Batten
197
00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.519
Windsor should testify before US lawmakers about his enduring friendship
198
00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.440
with Epstein, and there I have it I should like
199
00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:17.639
to email us or addresses the Palace Intrigue at gmail
200
00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:19.679
dot com. Please follow us on Spotify, Apple and the
201
00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:22.080
Appleview Choice and leaves a nice review from enjoying the show.
202
00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:24.399
I'm Mark Francis My thanks to John McDermott. This is
203
00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:26.759
Palace Intrigue and good terms.