March 17, 2025

Kate buys some pints. Do the British viewing public have internalised racism that they're not even aware of?

Show Notes
Transcript

Colonel Kate was back on parade yesterday, raising a half-pint of Guinness to celebrate St Patrick's Day with the Irish Guards. The Princess of Wales, looking absolutely gorgeous in green Alexander McQueen, made her triumphant return to the annual celebration after missing last year due to her cancer treatment.

The Princess, ever generous, even put money behind the bar for the troops, telling them: "It's the least I can do." Now that's royal class! The 43-year-old beamed as she inspected the regiment, pinned traditional shamrocks beneath her gold Cartier brooch, and even presented one to Turlough Mor, the Irish wolfhound mascot who serves as the regiment's most adorable soldier.

During candid chats with the guardsmen, Kate revealed she's keen to take her children Down Under. "George finds it fascinating that he has been to Australia and New Zealand," she told an Australian reservist. "I would like to go back there with them now." Little Prince George, now 11, was just nine months old during his parents' 2014 tour. While no joint trips have been announced yet, we're all hoping to see the Wales family on a royal tour soon.

Unlock an ad-free podcast experience with Caloroga Shark Media! Get all our shows on any player you love, hassle free! For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app. For Spotify or other players, visit caloroga.com/plus. No plug-ins needed!

Subscribe now for exclusive shows like 'Palace Intrigue,' and get bonus content from Deep Crown (our exclusive Palace Insider!) Or get 'Daily Comedy News,' and '5 Good News Stories’ with no commercials! Plans start at $4.99 per month, or save 20% with a yearly plan at $49.99. Join today and help support the show!

We now have Merch! FREE SHIPPING! Check out all the products like T-shirts, mugs, bags, jackets and more with logos and slogans from your favorite shows! Did we mention there’s free shipping? Get 10% off with code NewMerch10 Go to Caloroga.com

Get more info from Caloroga Shark Media and if you have any comments, suggestions, or just want to get in touch our email is info@caloroga.com

WEBVTT

1
00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:13.439
Calorogu shark media at Hello and welcome through palace intrigue.

2
00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:17.359
I'm your host, Mark Francis. Colonel Kate was back on

3
00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:21.079
parade yesterday, raising a half pint of guinness to celebrate

4
00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:24.480
Saint Patrick's Day with the Irish Guards. The Princess of Wales,

5
00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:28.440
looking absolutely gorgeous in green Alexander McQueen, made her triumphant

6
00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:32.039
return to the annual celebration after missing last year due

7
00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:35.359
to her cancer treatment. Princess Kate had a generous even

8
00:00:35.399 --> 00:00:37.640
put money behind the bar for the troops, telling them

9
00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:40.960
it's the least I can do. She beamed as she

10
00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:45.359
inspected the regiment, pinned traditional shamrocks beneath her gold Cartier brooch,

11
00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:49.200
and even presented one to Turlough Moore, the Irish wolfhound

12
00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:53.759
mascot who serves as the regiment's most adorable soldier. During

13
00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:56.439
candid chats with the guardsman, Kate revealed she's been keen

14
00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:59.920
to take her children down under. George finds it fascinating

15
00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:02.240
that he has been to Australia and New Zealand. She

16
00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:05.000
told an Australian reservist, I would like to go back

17
00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:07.959
there with them now. Little Prince George, now eleven, was

18
00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:10.840
just nine months old during his parents twenty fourteen tour.

19
00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:13.680
While no joint trips have been announced yet, we're all

20
00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:16.560
hoping to see the Wales family on a royal tour soon.

21
00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:21.719
In a delightful moment of Royal Bartal Gossip, Kate commented

22
00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:25.319
on her husband's newly grow and facial hair during conversations

23
00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:28.760
with officers. These trends come and go, she said. I

24
00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:30.680
was saying to my husband, I'm not sure how long

25
00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:33.959
he's going to keep his for a beard sporting William.

26
00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:36.879
Royal fashion watchers are divided, but the Prince of Wales

27
00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:41.000
can certainly pull off the rugged look. Eagle eyed Royal

28
00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:43.400
fans have noticed that Princess Catherine has been switching up

29
00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:47.879
her jewelry lately, often leaving her iconic sapphire engagement ring

30
00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:52.439
at home. The stunning twelve carrot oval salon blue sapphire,

31
00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:55.040
once worn by the late Princess Diana, has been replaced

32
00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:58.159
during recent engagements with what appears to be a more

33
00:01:58.200 --> 00:02:02.640
subtle eternity band featuring sapphires and diamonds. Social media was

34
00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:05.640
a buzz with speculation after the Wales appearance in Cardiff

35
00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:08.719
for the Six Nations rugby match. The Princess of Wales

36
00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:11.240
seems to be alternating between her engagement ring and this

37
00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:14.120
new one, which is most likely a gift from Prince William,

38
00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:18.759
wrote one royal watcher on x Experts suggest the change

39
00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:23.360
might be purely practical. Maxwell Stone of Stephenstone Jewelers noted,

40
00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:27.159
unlike Kate's twelve carrot engagement ring, which she typically removes

41
00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:30.680
during physical activities, sports, or any situation where there's an

42
00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:33.800
increased risk of damage or ross, this ring is more

43
00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:38.240
practical for daily wear. Some have romantically suggested the new

44
00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:41.919
piece might even be a University Day's promise ring from William,

45
00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:45.680
making a sentimental reappearance. Whatever the reason, both rings are

46
00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:51.000
certainly beautiful symbols of the Wales rock stolid marriage rugby royalty.

47
00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:53.879
Prince William and Princess Catherine have revealed that their sons

48
00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:57.240
are following in their sporty footsteps, with both Prince George

49
00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:00.919
and Little Prince Louis embracing rugby on the week. During

50
00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:03.840
Saturday's visit to Cardiff for the Wales versus Scotland match,

51
00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:08.759
the couple shared details of their family's sporting schedule at weekends.

52
00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:11.120
We go from one competition to the next with him,

53
00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:13.960
told players, while Kate added Louis is six and he's

54
00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:17.000
just started touch rugby, and George's eleven and he plays

55
00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:20.439
it a bit more. They do really enjoy it. This

56
00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:23.080
isn't the first time the princess has commented on young

57
00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:26.719
Louie's enthusiastic approach to sports. Back in twenty twenty two,

58
00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:31.280
she memorably described her youngest as Kamakazi, adding we're worrying

59
00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:33.439
about when he gets older. He'll be in the middle

60
00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:37.199
of everything. With Louis already established a reputation for stealing

61
00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:39.080
the show at Royal events, we can only imagine the

62
00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:42.360
energy he brings to the rugby pitch. The Wales children

63
00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:45.520
come by their sporting passion. Honestly, Rugby has long been

64
00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:49.759
a fixture in the Middleton household, with Kate's sister Pepper

65
00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:52.960
once revealing to Vanity Fair that international matches were the

66
00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:56.759
focal point of family weekends. We'd plan our weekends around

67
00:03:56.800 --> 00:03:59.280
the big matches, she said, adding that their father would

68
00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:01.840
be in a state of despair for the rest of

69
00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:06.000
the afternoon if their favored team last. Meanwhile, nine year

70
00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:09.520
old Princess Charlotte purportedly prefers gymnastics with her mother, once

71
00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:12.479
sharing that she spends most of her time upside down

72
00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:16.600
doing handstands. Cart Wills family of athletes in the making.

73
00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:20.480
Could Prince William be adding another important title to his resume.

74
00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.439
Royal watchers are speculating that the Prince of Wales might

75
00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:27.079
soon become godfather after his close friend Hugh Grovner, the

76
00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:29.720
Duke of Westminster, announced he and his wife Olivia Henson,

77
00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:33.040
are expecting their first child this summer. The friendship between

78
00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:35.240
William and Hugh run steep, with the Prince serving as

79
00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:38.120
an usher at Hugh's wedding in Cheshire last year, and

80
00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:41.040
the Duke is already godfather to eleven year old Prince George,

81
00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:45.519
continuing a close into family connection that spans generations. King

82
00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:49.000
Charles is Who's godfather as well. But here's where things

83
00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:51.560
get interesting. Prince Harry is also close with the Duke,

84
00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:54.360
who serves as godfather to five year old Prince Archie.

85
00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:57.879
This creates the intriguing possibility that both royal brothers could

86
00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:00.560
be in the running for the prestigious god parent roll.

87
00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:03.800
The potential godfather decision comes at a time when the

88
00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:06.199
royal brothers remain estranged. Have you not seen each other

89
00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:09.639
in public since their grandmother's funeral. While William attended the

90
00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:13.000
Westminster wedding last year, Harry was notably absent. Despite his

91
00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:15.759
own friendship with the Duke. The Duke and Duchess of

92
00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:18.680
Westminster announced their happy news on Wednesday with a simple statement,

93
00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:21.240
The Duke and Duchess of Westminster are very pleased to

94
00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:23.720
share that the Duchess is expecting a baby in the summer.

95
00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:26.399
The couple are delighted with the news and are very

96
00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:30.000
much looking forward to starting a family together. We'll be

97
00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:32.680
watching closely to see which royal if either, receives the

98
00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:37.720
Godfather nod when Baby Westminster arrives this summer. More palacing

99
00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:45.519
just a moment. In Slate, Nadeira Goff writes about Meghan's

100
00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:48.920
new TV show, the food looks good, and I'm sure

101
00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:51.199
it is. For the most part. It's relatively simple. One

102
00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:54.639
pan pasta, ditches for tatas crude tay platters, take a

103
00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:56.759
drink every time she makes or mentions crude Tay, and

104
00:05:56.800 --> 00:05:59.720
prepare to have your stomach pumped. And ways to cutesy

105
00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:02.759
up roots simple sandwiches, charcuterie, and more. Over All, the

106
00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:07.279
show is calming and esthetically pleasing, but it's also completely irolling.

107
00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:10.800
Meganan says, so I'm making microwave popcorn with a dried

108
00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:13.279
cob of corn and a brown paper bag instead of

109
00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:16.759
you know, microwave popcorn. Shortly after, because apparently we've used

110
00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:20.000
all our energy making bath salts and not so easy popcorn,

111
00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:23.519
Megan dumps some Trader Joe's peanut butter pretzels. The name

112
00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:26.279
is covered, but I'd know that blue and white packaging anywhere,

113
00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:29.439
straight from the bag into another plastic bag, only one

114
00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:32.360
adorned with a handwritten label. In a later episode, she

115
00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:34.879
notes that dehydrating fruit slices is a great way to

116
00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:37.399
fancy up a meal or cocktail. But when I expected

117
00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:39.800
her to roast them and low in the oven for hours,

118
00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:42.920
she used a dehydrator. This is great advice for everyone

119
00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:46.560
I know with a dehydrator, which means it's great advice

120
00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:49.920
for no one that I know. Underlying all this fantasy

121
00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:53.160
is wealth. These simple hosting tricks are achievable only for

122
00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:55.879
someone who has a certain amount of money, time, or both.

123
00:06:56.600 --> 00:07:00.439
Everything is presented as artisanal as boutique as shoppy. You

124
00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:04.120
could imagine it staged perfectly and various aesthetically pleasing wire

125
00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:07.519
bale glass jars. Even the essential oils for the candle

126
00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:11.959
making are pre decanted into dark amber glass dropper bottles. Seriously,

127
00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:14.680
production has to have spent hundreds of dollars on just

128
00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:17.879
glass containers for the things. I have never felt more

129
00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:20.519
isolated from someone on screen than in the last episode

130
00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:23.519
when Meghan shows off to waters her bounty of eggs

131
00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:26.920
produced by Meghan's own chickens. That's at least twenty dollars

132
00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:30.600
worth of eggs with deep orange yolks. She's marveling at.

133
00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:33.600
Still the real luxury present here is time when you

134
00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:35.759
are mother of two children without a real job, and

135
00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:38.639
you can afford full time child care and help. Of course,

136
00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:40.639
you have time to make rainbows out of fruit for

137
00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:43.759
your kids in the morning, to press dried flowers into everything,

138
00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:46.839
and to make crapes because they feel more special than

139
00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:50.560
a pancake. Comedian Katherine Ryan discussed Meghan on her podcast,

140
00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:54.360
telling Everybody Everything, saying she is very Hollywood, even for me,

141
00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:57.399
and I don't like that. In people, I liked Meghan

142
00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:00.319
Markele I was rooting for Megan Markles several things true

143
00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:02.439
at once. I think a lot of the British viewing

144
00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:06.160
public do have internalized racism that they're not even aware of.

145
00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:10.199
This is a very racistly structured country. I mean, colonialism

146
00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:12.879
is the most racist thing ever. We have a royal

147
00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:15.399
family in a palace, we speak about working class. We

148
00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:18.040
don't even have words like that in Canada. There is

149
00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:20.439
an unconscious bias in this country and in most countries

150
00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:22.680
really that a lot of people don't even realize they have.

151
00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:25.759
When she says, oh, I feel that I was victimized

152
00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:29.879
by institutionalized racism, then you have to believe her like

153
00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:32.440
that is her experience. And it's really weird for white

154
00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:35.039
people to say, no, you weren't. We're not racist, we

155
00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:38.159
just don't like you. It must feel incredibly gaslighting as

156
00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:40.759
a woman of mixed ethnicity to be told no, it's

157
00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:44.440
not racism, you're wrong. Yes, of course, So I think

158
00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:49.240
this country does have institutionalized racism, yes, and unconscious bias yes,

159
00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:52.639
not every single person, but a great many. Yes. And

160
00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:54.879
to be someone with a mother who's black entering the

161
00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:57.480
royal family, I'm sure they had some feelings about that

162
00:08:57.559 --> 00:09:00.919
because that's the royal family. Addition to that, though, she

163
00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:02.919
is very Hollywood, even for me, and I don't like

164
00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:05.440
that in people I see now. And maybe it's just

165
00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:08.320
the projects she's choosing, it does feel like she has

166
00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:10.759
lied about whether she knew who Prince Harry was, and

167
00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:13.840
these details about her childhood change and don't add up.

168
00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:16.480
Like she said on her new Netflix show that they

169
00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:19.399
ate TV dinners growing up, but then in an old

170
00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:22.120
interview she was like, we would eat farm fresh, you know,

171
00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:25.679
just little things. Her whole act seems very manicured and

172
00:09:25.799 --> 00:09:28.559
very forced, and I was rooting for her. So I

173
00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:30.399
think I've known a lot of Hollywood people. They're not

174
00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:32.799
bad people. I certainly don't think she's a bad person,

175
00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:35.320
but I think she likes cozying up to the celebrities,

176
00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.679
and she wants the one million dollar deal or ten

177
00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:40.440
hundred million dollar deal anyone would, and she likes the

178
00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:42.879
fact that she's married to a prince, like of course.

179
00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:45.600
But I would rather someone lean into that and be like,

180
00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:47.720
oh my god, look I used to be on suits

181
00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:50.679
and now I'm married to a neving prince. I would

182
00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:53.519
rather that than this act of oh, I'm just so

183
00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:56.799
humble So Netflix continues to try and make Meghan Sussex

184
00:09:57.320 --> 00:10:01.039
formerly Meghan Markel and technically Megan mount Baton happen with

185
00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:04.720
her latest peak behind the Royal Adjacent Curtain titled with

186
00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:09.159
Love Comma Megan. Like, who knows what Netflix are doing?

187
00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:12.320
They are smart, people are tuned in whether they love

188
00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:15.840
something or hate something, whatever keeps them watching more episodes

189
00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:19.039
and they're posting loads about it online. If this was

190
00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:22.519
Netflix's intention to be, like, let's throw Megan under the bus,

191
00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.240
like personally where even the people who really liked her

192
00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:28.159
are sort of turning not against her, but this is

193
00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:30.120
just she doesn't seem to be the kind of gal

194
00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:32.759
that I would want to be friends with. It's too manicured,

195
00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:36.279
it's too bige. And there you have it. Like to

196
00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:38.360
email us and addresses the Palace in Drink at gmail

197
00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:40.000
dot com. Please follow us a Spotify apple on the

198
00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:42.120
apple of your choice and leave us a review of

199
00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:45.440
five stars if you're enjoying the show, don't forget. We

200
00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:47.879
have a new show out from Callaogushark Media called White

201
00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:50.039
Smoke The Path to a New Pope. It's a very

202
00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:54.919
timely and historical and cool look at the people election process.

203
00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:58.320
Check it out wherever you get your podcasts. White Smoke, I,

204
00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:00.679
My Francis My thanks to John mcderm of This Palace

205
00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:02.279
Intrigue and good terms,

Kate buys some pints. Do the British viewing public have internalised racism that they're not even aware of?

Listen On

Recent Episodes