Caloroga Shark Media
Sept. 8, 2026

Harry and Meghan Told to ‘Drop the Titles or Drop the Grievances’ as Royal Backlash Grows

Harry and Meghan Told to ‘Drop the Titles or Drop the Grievances’ as Royal Backlash Grows

Harry and Meghan’s return to Britain fuels another wave of royal reaction, with Camilla Tominey arguing the Sussexes must choose between embracing their Windsor connections and continuing their grievances against the monarchy. Sarah Vine declares Queen Camilla, Princess Catherine, Duchess Sophie and Princess Anne the Royal Family’s new “Fab Four,” while a PR expert offers Harry and Meghan some striking advice: come home quietly and let Britain get bored with them. Plus, Meghan’s reported feud with Victoria Beckham, claims Princess Eugenie is wary of mixing friendship with Meghan’s business interests, criticism of the Sussexes’ campaigning, and questions about whether Sarah Ferguson knew about their return before the public did.

Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/palace-intrigue-harry-meghan-the-crown-royal-family-news-and-gossip--4522904/support.

Palace Intrigue is a daily British royal family podcast covering King Charles, Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, Kate Middleton and the House of Windsor. New episodes every day. Follow on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. Part of the Caloroga Shark Media network.

WEBVTT

1
00:00:03.250 --> 00:00:12.470
Caloroga Shark Media. Hello and welcome to Palace Intrigue. I

2
00:00:12.509 --> 00:00:15.130
am your host, Mark Francis. The Daily Mail's Sarah Vine

3
00:00:15.150 --> 00:00:19.010
suggests there's a new Fab Four now. She writes, Queen Camilla,

4
00:00:19.210 --> 00:00:22.350
the Princess of Wales, the Duchess of Edinburgh, and stalwart

5
00:00:22.410 --> 00:00:25.370
Princess Anne. They have shown what strength there can be

6
00:00:25.410 --> 00:00:29.750
in quiet perseverance. They now represent a formidable quartet of

7
00:00:29.949 --> 00:00:32.570
soft power, one of which is a lined, in its

8
00:00:32.670 --> 00:00:35.219
unfailing loyalty to the king and the legacy of the crown.

9
00:00:36.340 --> 00:00:41.119
All are working royals, 100% dedicated to public life. Between them,

10
00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:44.439
they carry out a huge number of official engagements, rarely,

11
00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:47.700
if ever, putting a foot wrong. They work hard, keep

12
00:00:47.740 --> 00:00:50.450
their heads down, and operate with a mixture of dedication

13
00:00:50.549 --> 00:00:53.530
and discretion that is the very definition of royal duty.

14
00:00:54.590 --> 00:00:57.049
At every turn in the Mexit saga, these four remarkable

15
00:00:57.090 --> 00:01:00.770
women have presented a united front, sharing the workload left

16
00:01:00.829 --> 00:01:04.760
by the Sussexes absence with grace and gusto, earning the

17
00:01:04.780 --> 00:01:07.140
respect and affection of the British public along the way.

18
00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:10.459
It is they who are now the Fab Four, the

19
00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:12.700
pillars of the House of Windsor, and if Meghan and

20
00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:15.719
Harry don't keep their noses clean, they will soon discover

21
00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:20.140
that they can also be formidable adversaries. Catherine and Sophie

22
00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:23.519
provide the glamour, Queen Camilla and Princess Anne the experience

23
00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:28.079
and wisdom, Meghan, with all her histrionics, is surplus to requirements.

24
00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:31.159
And unlike the Duchess of Sussex, who was never especially

25
00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:33.420
keen on carrying out her duties as a working royal,

26
00:01:33.909 --> 00:01:38.810
they are grafters, not grifters. Crucially, they are genuinely invested

27
00:01:38.849 --> 00:01:40.769
in the future of the monarchy. They know that they

28
00:01:40.810 --> 00:01:44.150
are mere custodians of their respective roles and understand, as

29
00:01:44.189 --> 00:01:46.849
the late Queen did, that the institution will endure long

30
00:01:46.930 --> 00:01:50.189
after they have gone. Unlike Harry and Meghan, who seem

31
00:01:50.219 --> 00:01:52.799
to believe the opposite, that the monarchy exists to serve

32
00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:56.299
them and help them make money, the new Fab Four understand,

33
00:01:56.439 --> 00:02:01.930
appreciate and respect the crown. Royal biographer Duncan Larcombe says

34
00:02:01.969 --> 00:02:06.379
the relationship between Meghan Markle and Victoria Beckham has deteriorated

35
00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:09.360
to what his sources describe as an all-time low, with

36
00:02:09.419 --> 00:02:13.659
jealousy and resentment allegedly driving the former friends further apart.

37
00:02:14.620 --> 00:02:17.689
Writing for Woman and Home, Larcombe says a source told him,

38
00:02:18.189 --> 00:02:20.110
Meghan feels as though it is one rule for the

39
00:02:20.150 --> 00:02:23.629
Beckhams and another for her and Harry. This apparent double

40
00:02:23.689 --> 00:02:26.370
standard is a constant issue for Meghan, who sees herself

41
00:02:26.409 --> 00:02:28.360
as one of the most trolled women on the planet.

42
00:02:29.550 --> 00:02:32.689
Larcombe says his sources believe the dispute ultimately boils down

43
00:02:32.729 --> 00:02:35.509
to jealousy, with another telling him, I believe it was

44
00:02:35.669 --> 00:02:39.060
envy that caused the fallout. Some of the more detailed

45
00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:42.439
allegations come from royal biographer Tom Bauer. In the House

46
00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:46.379
of Beckham, Bauer claimed the relationship encountered problems involving requests

47
00:02:46.500 --> 00:02:49.340
for clothing and fashion advice, as well as the relative

48
00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:53.300
social status of the two women. In Meghan's celebrity world,

49
00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:57.360
ranking depends on wealth and fame. Bauer wrote, As a

50
00:02:57.409 --> 00:03:01.060
seasoned operator... Meghan deluded herself that her status in the

51
00:03:01.099 --> 00:03:04.580
royal family placed her above Victoria in the social pecking order.

52
00:03:05.620 --> 00:03:08.310
Meghan was irritated to discover that the Beckhams had considerably

53
00:03:08.349 --> 00:03:11.590
more wealth than herself. They owned five homes and constant

54
00:03:11.689 --> 00:03:15.330
access to private jets, invitations to sail on yachts and

55
00:03:15.370 --> 00:03:18.090
much more money, and she was soon to be a duchess.

56
00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:23.500
From Radar Online, Meghan has supposedly explored the idea of

57
00:03:23.580 --> 00:03:26.620
working with Eugenie on some sort of European commercial venture.

58
00:03:27.219 --> 00:03:30.520
as she expands her business interests outside the United States.

59
00:03:31.300 --> 00:03:34.780
One source told Radar, Meghan may understandably see Eugenie as

60
00:03:34.860 --> 00:03:37.639
somebody with whom she has a genuine personal connection and

61
00:03:38.060 --> 00:03:41.620
who also understands the extraordinary pressures surrounding royal life. But

62
00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:44.479
friendship is very different from attaching yourself publicly to somebody

63
00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:48.550
else's commercial operation. Eugenie has strong reasons to keep these

64
00:03:48.610 --> 00:03:51.030
two worlds separate, and her lack of support when the

65
00:03:51.349 --> 00:03:54.759
Sussexes come back to Britain is likely to be seen

66
00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:58.919
as complete betrayal from Meghan's point of view. Another source

67
00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:01.259
put it this way, Eugenie has worked hard to maintain

68
00:04:01.300 --> 00:04:03.740
her own life while dealing with the circumstances surrounding her

69
00:04:03.780 --> 00:04:06.569
father that she did not create. The last thing she

70
00:04:06.610 --> 00:04:09.050
needs is another wave of headlines suggesting that she has

71
00:04:09.110 --> 00:04:11.889
chosen a side in the Sussex dispute or is using

72
00:04:11.930 --> 00:04:16.129
her royal connections commercially. A private friendship with Meghan can

73
00:04:16.149 --> 00:04:20.120
continue perfectly well without becoming a business partnership. A third

74
00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:23.899
insider said, If Eugenie decides against doing anything publicly with Megan,

75
00:04:24.339 --> 00:04:27.939
it shouldn't necessarily be interpreted as the end of their friendship.

76
00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:31.300
But Megan could regard it as disappointing because Eugenie has

77
00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:35.889
been among the royals most consistently warm toward the Sussexes.

78
00:04:36.750 --> 00:04:39.750
The message would effectively be that reconciliation and family relationships

79
00:04:39.790 --> 00:04:45.029
are one thing, while commercial ventures are another. In The Telegraph,

80
00:04:45.069 --> 00:04:48.600
Camilla Tominey writes, The Sussexes have a simple choice. Play

81
00:04:48.620 --> 00:04:52.329
the Windsor game or ditch the titles. their personal brand

82
00:04:52.410 --> 00:04:55.379
is and always will be inextricably linked to the very

83
00:04:55.439 --> 00:05:00.199
institution they spent six years criticising. Enrolling their children in

84
00:05:00.220 --> 00:05:03.199
an English prep school further underscores a desire to maintain

85
00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:06.100
ties to their royal heritage. After all, what is the

86
00:05:06.139 --> 00:05:09.170
value of holding royal titles if one remains entirely detached

87
00:05:09.250 --> 00:05:13.370
from the monarchy? Ultimately, they cannot fully disconnect from the

88
00:05:13.410 --> 00:05:17.730
House of Windsor without risking total irrelevance. Despite repeatedly insisting

89
00:05:17.790 --> 00:05:21.079
on privacy, they haven't ever wanted to be anonymous. What

90
00:05:21.100 --> 00:05:25.360
they want is maximum exposure, provided it is all overwhelmingly positive.

91
00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:28.439
It's all they've ever wanted, the good publicity, but not

92
00:05:28.490 --> 00:05:32.170
the bad. The contradiction has always existed, but it stands

93
00:05:32.250 --> 00:05:34.829
out far more sharply on British soil, where there is

94
00:05:34.850 --> 00:05:38.670
a clear distinction between celebrity and royalty. So now they're

95
00:05:38.750 --> 00:05:41.610
back in blighty. Harry and Meghan face a stark choice.

96
00:05:42.189 --> 00:05:45.740
Drop the titles or drop the grievances. The Sussexes can't

97
00:05:45.779 --> 00:05:48.120
have it both ways. If the crown is the problem,

98
00:05:48.540 --> 00:05:51.399
Why remain so determined to cash in on its name?

99
00:05:52.339 --> 00:05:59.430
More Palace in just a moment. Daily Mail columnist Jan

100
00:05:59.449 --> 00:06:02.449
Moyer has offered a particularly unforgiving assessment of Harry and

101
00:06:02.490 --> 00:06:05.329
Meghan's return to Britain, questioning what either of them will

102
00:06:05.430 --> 00:06:09.029
actually do now that they are back. Moyer wonders how

103
00:06:09.110 --> 00:06:12.579
Meghan will operate her as-ever lifestyle business from Britain when

104
00:06:12.620 --> 00:06:16.040
much of its production remains based in California. Is there

105
00:06:16.139 --> 00:06:19.180
room for more? A niche UK edit, a heritage range

106
00:06:19.220 --> 00:06:21.819
of British jams. For it seems there is nothing this

107
00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:24.959
lady of marmalade can't do with a soft fruit, a

108
00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:28.189
fancy label and a brass neck. One on the glass jar,

109
00:06:28.250 --> 00:06:32.310
the other, a metaphysical manifestation of her Boyle seal and

110
00:06:32.750 --> 00:06:36.990
label audacity. But Moyer serves her strongest criticism for the

111
00:06:37.009 --> 00:06:41.209
Sussexes' continued campaigning. Harry and Meghan recently criticised Meta over

112
00:06:41.250 --> 00:06:44.389
its approach to children and data collection. something Moyer sees

113
00:06:44.670 --> 00:06:47.509
as another example of the couple inserting themselves into enormous

114
00:06:47.550 --> 00:06:50.790
global issues. You have to laugh. It's like Mickey and

115
00:06:50.810 --> 00:06:54.870
Minnie Mouse firing a peashooter at King Kong. The case

116
00:06:54.889 --> 00:06:57.089
has nothing to do with the Sussexes, but they remain

117
00:06:57.230 --> 00:07:00.660
imbued with a mutual God complex and are secure in

118
00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:04.379
their own sense of importance. Their mission is nothing less

119
00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:06.560
than delivering us all from evil and making the world

120
00:07:06.660 --> 00:07:10.740
a better place, chiefly for themselves. Indeed, the Sussexes have

121
00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:15.009
spent the past six years campaigning for a fairer, greener world,

122
00:07:15.129 --> 00:07:18.610
a nirvana free from racism and snobbery. One supposes this

123
00:07:18.689 --> 00:07:21.629
is great and grand hypocrisy of the Duke and Duchess

124
00:07:21.670 --> 00:07:25.410
of Sussex in all its hard-boiled glory. They want it all,

125
00:07:25.610 --> 00:07:30.550
they want it now, with jam on. Public relations expert

126
00:07:30.689 --> 00:07:32.870
Renee Smith has some advice for Harry and Meghan. She

127
00:07:32.910 --> 00:07:35.670
tells the Express, keep their heads down, do the school runs,

128
00:07:35.730 --> 00:07:38.069
show up consistently and resist the urge to narrate the

129
00:07:38.129 --> 00:07:42.350
experience through interviews and documentaries. Then over time, opinion can shift.

130
00:07:42.939 --> 00:07:45.939
If this becomes content, it is over. So my advice,

131
00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:48.180
if I were on their team, would be brutally simple.

132
00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:51.829
Come home quietly, stay consistently, and say nothing for as

133
00:07:51.850 --> 00:07:55.790
long as humanly possible. Let Britain get bored of the story.

134
00:07:56.389 --> 00:08:00.170
Boredom for Harry and Meghan is the closest thing to redemption.

135
00:08:01.370 --> 00:08:04.079
Writing in the Daily Mail, royal biographer Andrew Lowney claims

136
00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:06.500
Sarah Ferguson knew about Harry and Meghan's plans to return

137
00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:09.579
before they became public. His argument is that the attention

138
00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.199
surrounding the Sussexes offer her an opportunity to arrange a

139
00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:16.740
quieter homecoming of her own. Lowney identifies Princess Eugenie as

140
00:08:16.779 --> 00:08:20.089
a possible connection. He suggests information could have been shared

141
00:08:20.110 --> 00:08:23.350
during family visits to her home in Portugal, although he

142
00:08:23.410 --> 00:08:26.189
also puts forward his own theory that Meghan may have

143
00:08:26.209 --> 00:08:30.290
spoken directly to Ferguson. He also claims her financial support

144
00:08:30.350 --> 00:08:34.009
is coming from an unidentified benefactor in the Gulf with

145
00:08:34.029 --> 00:08:37.519
the person likely to belong to a Middle Eastern royal family.

146
00:08:38.860 --> 00:08:41.159
And there you have it. If you'd like to email us,

147
00:08:41.190 --> 00:08:44.870
our address is thepalaceintrigue at gmail.com. If you're on Spotify,

148
00:08:44.929 --> 00:08:46.809
leave us a comment. If you're on Apple, hit that

149
00:08:46.850 --> 00:08:49.620
button that says listen uninterrupted and get the show commercial free.

150
00:08:50.419 --> 00:08:52.460
For just five bucks a month, we appreciate your support.

151
00:08:52.940 --> 00:08:55.120
I'm Mark Francis. My thanks to John McDermott. This is

152
00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:56.970
Palace Intrigue. Good times.