April 19, 2026

Planetary Orbits, Cosmic Expansion & The Nature of Nothing | Space Nuts Q&A

Planetary Orbits, Cosmic Expansion & The Nature of Nothing | Space Nuts Q&A
Planetary Orbits, Cosmic Expansion, and the Nature of Nothingness In this thought-provoking Q&A episode of Space Nuts, hosts Andrew Dunkley and Professor Fred Watson tackle a diverse array of listener questions that delve into the intricacies of our universe. From the stability of planetary orbits to the enigmatic concept of nothingness before the Big Bang, this episode promises to enlighten and intrigue.
Episode Highlights:
- Planetary Orbits vs. Energy: Justin from Melbourne asks how planets maintain stable orbits around the sun without spiraling inwards. Andrew and Fred explore the negligible forces at play in interplanetary space, discussing the stability of planetary dynamics and the historical migrations of planets within the solar system.
- Expansion of Earth: Larry questions whether the Earth is expanding along with the universe. The hosts clarify that while space itself is expanding, the forces that hold the Earth together, such as gravity, prevent any significant changes at a local scale.
- The Concept of Nothingness: Mike from the UK raises a philosophical query about what existed before the Big Bang. Andrew and Fred discuss the implications of time and existence, examining the idea that time itself may have begun with the Big Bang and the theories surrounding this profound mystery.
- Projectiles in Space: Giles presents a fascinating "what if" scenario regarding the accuracy of firing solid metal projectiles from orbit. The hosts analyze the challenges of targeting and the influence of atmospheric conditions, drawing parallels with historical warfare and modern technology.

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Hi there, Thanks again for joining us. This is Space

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Nuts a Q and A Edition. My name is Andrew Dunkley,

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your host. It's good to have your company. A Q

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and A edition means that people ask us questions and

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we don't do anything about it except try to answer them.

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Justin has sent a question in about planetary orbits versus energy.

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He doesn't quite get what's going on there. Larry is

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asking about whether or not the Earth is expanding in

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relation to the universe expanding. Giles wants to talk about

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solid metal projectiles in a what if question, and Mike

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wants to talk about nothing for fifteen seconds. Guidance is

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in channel ten nine ignition sequence Space Nuts Guy or

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three two one spacenutes as can I report it? Bill's

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good and back to share his wealth of knowledge with

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us is Professor Fred Watson, an astronomer at large. Hello Fred, Hello,

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an't true?

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That's a nice word.

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Is wealth?

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Isn't it wealth?

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Yes?

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Yes, the knowledge is fine, but do make you wealthy?

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No, it doesn't does it does not unless you know

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what to use it for. Yes, that's right, Yes, never mind,

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Let's let's get some questions sorted out because we've got

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a batch of really really good ones again today, and

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our first question comes from Justin.

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Hello, Fred and Andrew, it's Justin down in Melbourne. Thank

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you for answering my first question earlier this year. I

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have another question now, which relates to the Solar System.

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We're told that classical physics can't explain the existence of

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the assom because negatively charged particles orbiting a positive nucleus

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would lose energy and spiral in towards a nucleus. And

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of course we need quantum mechanics to explain the atom stability.

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But by extension, I was thinking about the Solar system.

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How is it that the planets maintain orbits around the

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Sun without losing energy and spiraling in towards the Sun.

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If you think about that classic demonstration with the rubber

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sheet and the bowling ball with some marbles, the marbles

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will orbit the bowling ball, but then very quickly lose

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energy and find themselves next to the bowling ball. And

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of course that's due to the friction of the rubber sheet.

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But I'm assuming there's a frictional component even in interplanetary space.

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But is it the fact that that really is negligible

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even on geological time scales and wouldn't cause the planets

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to lose energy. So perhaps you can walk us through

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how that works. And my second question is to do

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with the fact that the planets themselves obviously gravitationally interact,

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and perhaps there are some resins and is there as

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well which can cause planets to move either further away

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from the Sun, as Jupiter is supposed to have done

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in its lifespan. So, given that the Sun is at

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the halfway point in its life, do we foresee any

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radical restructuring or reshuffling of the planets in the Solar

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System in the Sun's second half of life. I love

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the podcast and I hope you can share some insights

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on that one.

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Thank you. We will do our very best. Actually I

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won't do anything, thank you, justin I'll end it all

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over to Fred. So two questions really interesting, both of

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them planetary orbits versus energy. Why don't they sort of

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slow down and fall in like you do with the

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old bowling ball on a rubber mat trick and the

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planet's reshuffling as the Sun gets older? Will do them separately?

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It's a good question. I don't know if we've had

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this one recently. We might have had it before. But

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what keeps them keeping on for it?

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Well, they do, They just keep on keeping on. So

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just Justin's right in that, Yes, the thing that sends

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the marble down to the bowling ball on the rubber

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sheet is the friction of the of the rolling phenomenon.

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All sorts of frictions come in. There's a bit of

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air braking as well with that, not much, but and

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that that's what leads to that situation. In the Solar System,

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there's very little to provide any kind of friction, if

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at all. The I mean, the outward pressure of the

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solar wind is in terms of planetary dynamics, exerts a

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negligible force that the force actually does affect small objects

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like asteroids. We've discussed recently how the Sun's red can

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speed up the spin of asteroids. That's an effect to

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his name, I can't remember, but that's the case.

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So it's.

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Essentially a situation where you've you've set these things in

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motion and the speed of rotation determined or revolution determined

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how far away they are from the Sun's We are

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in a very stable era in the Solar System, and

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they should just be able to go on forever rotating

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in their orbits to sort of lurch towards the second

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part of Justin's question. Yes, there probably have been migrations,

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we believe of planets from one orb bit to another.

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stable we have, yeah, and probably for the second half

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of the Sun's life, things will remain much as they

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are now. The Moon's drifting away from the Earth, we

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it sorry, gaining energy from the slow down of the

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s rotation that pushes it further and further out. But

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in terms of the planets, there isn't anything really similar

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going on. The Sun's mass is by far the biggest component,

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by a huge amount, of the mass of the Solar System,

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and Jupiter's mass is by a huge amount the biggest

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component of the mass of the planets. So Jupiter certainly

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calls the shots, and that's why we've got an asteroid

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belt where we have, because it probably Jupiter's gravitational interaction

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with the debris disk from which the planets formed probably

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sort of stymied the idea of things sticking together. Well,

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as soon as protoplanets stuck together, they or as planet

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Isi wal stuck together, that they got blasted apart by

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the gravitational pull of Jupiter and probably collisions as well.

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So the history of the Solar System is probably dominated

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in its early era by planetary orbits evolving, and that's

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just because the density of material. There's still a lot

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of debris left in the dust disk, there's a lot

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of collisions carrying taking place, and perhaps some gravitational instabilities

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that just needed to get themselves sorted out. Justin mentioned resonances,

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and there are many situations like that in the Solar System.

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There's a group of asteroids called the Hilda asteroids, which

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are in the main asteroid belt, but they have a

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resonance with Jupiters. So for every three orbits of a

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Hilda asteroid, you get two orbits of Jupiter. So every

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three a filled and two of Jupiter.

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There. Yes, we talked about this before and that didn't

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we find some weird ex planet that had like eight planets.

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Yes, that's right, Yes, that's one. I think that's the Trappist.

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I think it's one of the trappest planetary systems. Yes,

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and it's got that they're all in neat orders because

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they're all in resonance, and that that's something that's evolved,

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you know, probably quite early on in the history of

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that planetary system. You've got this array of planets that

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do pull themselves into resonant orbits. Now resident there aren't

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really resonances between the planets except that Pluto is in

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resonance with Neptune. I can't remember. That might be three

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to two as well, for every three orbits of Neptune

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two of Pluto. You might need to check what those

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numbers are. But it is a resonance. It's called a

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resonant object, and so that's come about over time. Neptune

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is much more dominant than Pluto in its gravitational pool, so.

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It is a three it's a three to two resonance. Yeah.

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Yeah, so that's a fairly common one. So, yes, it

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does happen. But the way things are now is they're

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very stable. They've evolved over four point seven billion years,

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and they're pretty happy with the way things are.

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I think. Yeah, it's fascinating, isn't it. You mentioned that

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effect of the Sun on asteroids. There's actually two effects.

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There's the yorp effect. Yeah, that's the sport in four

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names four yes, and the Yarkovsky effect, which is where

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the Sun heats the asteroid up, which causes it to

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emit heat, which acts as a tiny thruster which accelerates

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its orbital speed. Yeah.

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But these are you know, these are the tiny bodies

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of the Solar System. So they're they're orbits are evolving,

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that suggests, but they very much the you know, they're

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not planets.

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from just doing what they're doing forever until the Sun

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gives up and says all right, I've had enough of

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you lot and gets too big for itselves. Yes, so

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nothing to worry about. Justin, you can go to work tomorrow.

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Oh I heard him say, thanks for the question. Justin.

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Lovely to hear from you. Our next question comes from Larry.

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I know we've been down this road before, actually, but

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it's a great question. Larry asks, is space. If space

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is expanding, then is the Earth also expanding? By how much?

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And would it be measurable?

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I seem to remember a conversation we had a long

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time ago about the fact that as the universe expands,

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everything's expanding with it and moving further and further away,

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and we're going to reach a point where it will

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expand so much that we won't be able to see

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anything because everything we're just too far away for the

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light to reach us. But I think I did ask

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you the question as to whether or not my next

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door neighbor's house will be moving away from me, and

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the answer was yes, wasn't it.

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No, it's no, it's no right, you stuck with them,

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I'm afraid. Yeah, so you're right that the space occupied

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by the Earth is expanding, but it's you know, it's

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not even microscopic, it's a sub atomic level over even

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geological lifetimes, probably because it's such a small distance. The

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universe is very, very big and might long way to

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the exactly chemist shop. Yeah, that's twice we've had Douglas

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Adams been worth quoting. Yes, in recent weeks. I was

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going to say, yes, they are worth quoting. So it's

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it's you only really see the expansion when you start

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looking out millions of light years. Then you do, as

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discovered back in nineteen twenty nine. But the reason why

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the Earth is not participating in that expansion. Is that

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the forces that hold atoms together and that holds the

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Earth together, which is certainly gravity in terms of keeping

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the Earth together, is by far the dominant force. So

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the Earth's self gravity is easily enough to basically to

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overcome any tendency of the space within which the Earth

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sits to expands. On the scale of the Solar System,

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you can forget the cosmic expansion. In fact, on the

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scale of our galaxy, you can forget it.

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Basically.

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It's only when you start looking at more distant galaxies

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that you start seeing any measurable velocity change.

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Okay, so yep, gravity overcomes all. Yes, So sorry, Larry,

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You're stuck with your neighbors as I am with mine.

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It's just just the way it is. Earth will hold

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itself together. We are tough. Good question, though, good question,

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and is I was going to say, yeah, if you

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do want to said his questions, you can do so

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on our website and I'll tell you about that at

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the end of the show. This is Space Nuts with

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Andrew Dunkley and Professor Fred Watson. The crew of.

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Artemis two now bound for the Moon, Humanity's next Great

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Voyage begins space Nuts.

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Our next question, Fred is going to be a quick

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one because basically it's about nothing.

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This is Mike from Cromer in the UK. You had

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a question, Well, i'm podcast, I'm listening to the beginning

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of the universe as in the Big Bang, referred to

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it as being nothing before it, Shirley, from a non

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science point of view, it be better to say there

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was something before the Big Bang, but you don't know

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what it was. Why do you refer it refer to

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it as nothing before the Big Bang? It was trans question,

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but I thought i'd ask cheers.

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Thank you, Mike. I think it was me that said

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that we thought there was nothing before the Big Bang,

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and I think your answer was now it wasn't nothing,

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it's we don't know. Is that right? Or am I

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getting crossed up with something?

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And I mean that's right as well?

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That the issue, yes, so that.

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The standard line is in the beginning there was nothing

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and then it exploded. That's you know, that's a standard line,

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and that's very glib. The issue I have with trying

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to explain this is not with the word nothing or

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even with the word something, which is what Mike would

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prefer something, but we don't know what it was. But

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the issue I have is with the word before, because

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our understanding of the universe, certainly as far as relativity,

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informs us the models that you can build that you

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can build Time started with the Big Bang. Now, that

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is the prevalent, prevalent theory, but it is only one theory.

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There are others that do suggest that there was something

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before the Big Bang. Roger Penrose is one of the

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proponents of that sort of thing. But the kind of

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classical relativistic theory of the origin of the universe is

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that it's not that there was nothing before the Big Bang,

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it's that there was no time, and so before is

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not defined. Before has no meaning if you've before, only

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has meaning if you're in a time domain, and time

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the start of the universe may be created time as

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well as space. And that sort of ties in with

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some of the theories that are upcoming now from which

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you and I have talked about. The idea that time

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is an illusion really is an illusion that emerges from

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a much deeper level by quantum entanglement. That's the thinking.

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I'm not clear in my own head how these things

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link together, but it's certainly a very interesting possibility. And

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so that you know the idea that before the Big Bang, that.

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There was no before.

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Before the Big Bank because time didn't exist, then that

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would seem to be a possibility, given that we're looking

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for a deeper theory that explains the existence of the universe,

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in which time is not really a player. Time comes

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up as an illusion rather than a real thing. It's

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fascinating stuff. A lot of it's, as Mike says, it's

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almost into philosophy rather than rather and science. But the

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scientists are working hard on it. I'm really interested in

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this stuff because I think you know, Einstein himself was

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convinced that times in illusion, and he wrote something to

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that effect to a widow of one of his best

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friends who just died. It said time is a stubbor.

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It wasn't.

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He said, the idea of past, present, and future is

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a stubbornly persistent illusion.

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That was that.

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Those were his words in his letter.

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Yeah, I've read a theory a while back that suggested

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that all of time overlaps and that everything we know

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exists simultaneously.

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Einstein view exactly that, and it comes from the fact

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that we realized very shortly after Hubbell, sorry, after Einstein

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developed his special theory of relativity in ninety one hundred

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and five, there was a mathematician who kind of unpicked

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the details, and it was from there that we realized

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that time is actually a dimension which behaves a little

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bit like space, because you can bend time. Relativity bends time,

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and that's one of the things that tells you that

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it's probably not a very deep and fundamental thing. And

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so Einstein's view of the universe was exactly what you've

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just elucidated, the idea of that everything back, past, present,

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and future all exists in some way, and our sort

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of gradual progress through them from past to future is

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the bit that's an illusion. It has a name that

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is called the block time theory of the universe. It's

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sort of time is all is in a single block,

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if I can put it that way, and we just

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stepped through it from moment to moment, but it all exists.

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Yeah. There's another element to that, which we've also talked

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about before, and that is that our existence is a

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manifestation of our own what our lives are what our

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world is, what our planet, what our universe is, is

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a manifestation of ours we I don't know how they

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come to that concept, but that's another theory that's been

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put forward, that none of this is real. We've just

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created it in our minds.

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Yeah, which tells you that a consciousness might be a

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fundamental part of the universe. And if it took the

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universe several billion years to evolve creatures that had consciousness

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and what was happening before that.

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Maybe we were just living a giant mind. We just

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made it all up or a big black hole. That's

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another ye.

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But thanks for that, Mike, trying to get these things

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sorted out in our heads. And yeah, chrome is quite

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a nice part of the world if I remember rightly,

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a bit to the Isle of Wight, but that's where

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it is.

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Wonderful. Thank you, Mike. Very thought provoking. We love those

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kinds of questions.

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Three space nuts.

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Our final question today comes from Giles. This is really

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interesting as well. This is a what if high from

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England Andrew and fred. A popular idea in science fiction

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when dealing with objects in fixed orbits, such as space

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stations or planetary targets, is simply to fire big rocks

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at them from a ship elsewhere in the system. What

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sort of accuracy could we currently hope to achieve with

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a simple shaped, solid metal projectile fired from low earth orbit,

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dropping through the atmosphere, assuming no corrective adjustments after launch,

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Could we, for instance, landscape London or would we be

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lucky to hit something in the city of England. Ume

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hitting a target in orbit would be much easier to achieve. Giles, Now,

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before you answer this, Fred, it's really interesting that he

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brings that up because I am currently reading a John

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Birmingham series called World War three point two and it's

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called subtitle The Access of Time. John Birmingham's from the UK,

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but he's living in Australia, up in Queensland.

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What's did a gig with him? Yeah?

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A lovely guy and he writes beautifully. I love his books,

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highly recommend them if you're into science fiction. And in

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this series there were three books and he enjoyed writing

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them so much he wrote three more books, which were

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just novel atts and then he announced, look, I'm going

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to keep going. This is just too much fun. And

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he's written three more books and he's now announced he's

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going to keep going again on this series. It's got

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some great characters in it, including Prince Harry, who's actually

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one of the main characters of the story. You've got

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to remember that Prince Harry was thrust back in time

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to World War Two with the rest of a fleet

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and so on and so forth. There's time travel in

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and all that. But what's interesting is in those novelettes

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in between, they were trying to rescue a scientist, a

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rocket scientist or a nuclear scientist, to try and stop

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Russia from getting a nuclear weapon, and et cetera, et cetera.

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As a part of that, Stalin decides to lash out

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against the Allies in Europe and attacks them with tungsten

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spears fired from a weapons platform in orbit and obliterates

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the NATO forces. So that's exactly what Giles is talking about. Yeah,

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and they even though it's not a nuclear weapon, the effect,

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from what John writes in his novels, the effect is

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the same it probably was.

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Yeah, I mean, it's you know, just turling things down,

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whether it's got explosive in it or not.

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That's right.

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You've got enough enough momentum in order to when you

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convert that to energy in order to make a big impact,

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which is why we lost the dinosaurs back in the day,

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same explosion, explosion from that, so, I think Giles's question

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is how well you could control that, and he's right

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in that from you know, firing an object from orbit

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from one place to another is straightforward because the dominant

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feature there is the interaction of the object with gravity,

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and it's the you know, gravity generally in the Solar

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System from the Sun and the planets, and that's highly predictable.

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And of course we had a dead on bulls eye

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hit with the Dart spacecraft on Dimorphous back in twenty

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twenty two that I think I can't remember. It was

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within just a few meters of the target, and that's

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because it's easy to do that with high precision. I

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guess when you're putting something down to the Earth's surface

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from orbit, you've got the vagaries of the atmosphere to

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deal with, and so you've got winds which are probably

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having some influence at different levels. You're still talking about

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very high velocities though, so they would you know, for

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your descending object, the winds would have some effect, but

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maybe not as much as you would think. We're now

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entering an era of hypersonic missile technology which could be

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launched from orbit, and those things are very high speed

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vehicles that can be steered in atmosphere. That's why they're

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different from ballistic missiles, which followed just the laws of

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gravity and a bit of atmospheric interaction, so you can

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kind of work out where they're going to land or

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where they're going to come in and intercept them. With

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defensive missiles. That doesn't hold true for hypersonics because they

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can steer to get out of the way. I don't

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know why I thought of that, but it's just you know,

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this business of of how you target something, the atmosphere

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is going to make a difference.

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Yeah, I imagine it would. But what Joseph Stalin did

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to overcome that problem was saturation bombing, Yeah, from strace

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with tungsten spears. So it didn't matter if this is

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in the book, this is in the pot. His solution

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or his scientists solution for lack of accuracy was multiple spears.

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Basically, well in a way that was you know, wars

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were fought with bows and arrows, that sort of thing.

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Yeah, yeah, because bows and arrows weren't all that accurate

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over distance, but over the Yeah, you fire enough of them,

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they're going to hit something. Yeah, that's yeah, that's an

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interesting story in itself, the history of bows and arrows

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and how the English defeated the French at art and

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Core using the longbow. Wasn't it that? The ones and

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that was the end. That was the end of the

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Nights era of medieval times because the Knights became redundant.

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Their armor couldn't stop the longbow. As far as I

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understand it, Yes, yeah, it's fascinating stuff and love that question, Giles,

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But yes, in real terms, it's too easy to do

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what you suggest. It really is too easy. And I'm

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sure these kinds of ideas are bouncing around in the

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halls of secret buildings somewhere around the world. Anyway, thanks

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As always, We'll see you next time.

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Hi, hope, will you do it?

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So?

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Even if time is an illusion, it's still nice to

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go from one week to the next.

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It is, it is indeed all right. Thanks Red Professor

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Fred Watson, Astronomer at Large, and thanks to Hue in

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the studio who was going to join us today but

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