June 25, 2026

How Impact Craters Could Have Reversed Venus’s Rotation—The Surprising Science

How Impact Craters Could Have Reversed Venus’s Rotation—The Surprising Science

In this episode of Space Nuts, Andrew Dunkley and Professor Fred Watson explore fascinating topics ranging from the mysterious double moon dust implications and Venus's unusual rotation to updated protocols for announcing extraterrestrial evidence. They also delve into the intriguing potential of moon dust as a record of extinct civilizations and future lunar construction solutions, all while reflecting on the universe's expansion and the search for intelligent life beyond Earth.
Main Topics:
The concept of moon dust remnants potentially indicating alien megastructures or extraterrestrial artifacts.
The recent research explaining Venus's peculiar retrograde rotation and the impact hypothesis involving a large impactor.
Updated protocols from the International Academy of Astronautics (IAA) for credible extraterrestrial life detection announcements.
The potential for lunar surface dust, especially 'technograins,' to harbor evidence of past civilizations.
Technological prospects for lunar infrastructure, including 3D printing using moon dust and the economics of relocating materials to build lunar bases.
The discussion of the universe's expansion, dark energy, and the likelihood of future scenarios like the Big Rip, Big Crunch, or indefinite expansion.
The importance of rigorous verification for scientific claims and the dangers of misinformation, especially on social media.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to extraterrestrial moon dust and alien artifacts
02:14 - New findings on Venus's rotation and impact theories
03:52 - Updated protocols for announcing extraterrestrial evidence
10:37 - Moon dust as remnants of alien civilizations
24:17 - Future lunar habitation and construction using moon dust
33:00 - The challenges and possibilities of lunar infrastructure
44:00 - The expanding universe: dark energy, Big Rip, and Big Crunch
55:30 - The nature of time before the Big Bang and current theories
58:38 - The potential for observing lunar sunsets and corona phenomena
67:41 - The inevitability of future lunar sunset observations
69:12 - Closing remarks and climate of scientific inquiry
Resources & Links:
Research on Venus's Rotation by ETH Zurich
Declaration of Principles for Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence
Phys.org Moon and Space Mining articles
Space Connect Article on Extraterrestrial Protocols
The Bright Side - Moon Dust as Building Material
NASA - Artemis Program
The European Geosciences Union Conference Vienna
Connect with Professor Fred Watson:
LinkedIn
Twitter
Keep questioning and exploring — our universe is full of mysteries waiting to be uncovered.

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Anna: From the farthest reaches of the galaxy to

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the red dust of Mars. You're tuned in to

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Astronomy Daily, your daily briefing on, um,

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the universe. I'm Anna.

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Avery: And I'm Avery. Today on the show, an

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interstellar comet has just revealed it's

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older than our sun by billions of years.

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Perseverance scores its most impressive

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organic detection yet on Mars. And

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Europe's dark matter detective turns its gaze

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to the heart of our own galaxy and delivers

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the most stunning portrait ever made.

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Anna: We've also got a controversial plan to dump

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the world's largest space station into the

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Pacific Ocean, raising some very pointed

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questions. Plus, an asteroid that killed the

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dinosaurs may have kept underground life

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burning for 8 million years. And

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astronomers have just found that a, uh,

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famous nebula has a long lost twin

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sibling.

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Avery: It's Thursday, the 26th of June,

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2026, and this is Astronomy

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Anna: We start today with one of the most

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remarkable findings in the short but

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extraordinary history of interstellar

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astronomy. The comet known as 3i

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Atlas, which swept through our solar system

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last year and captured the imagination of

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scientists worldwide, has now revealed

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something almost impossible to wrap your head

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around. This comet is older than our Sun.

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Avery: Much older, potentially. Two new papers

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using data from NASA's James Webb Space

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Atlas carries a chemical fingerprint unlike

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anything found in our own solar system. And

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that fingerprint points to an origin between

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10 and 12 billion years ago.

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comet may have been drifting through the

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galaxy for more than twice the lifetime of

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our entire Sol solar system before it

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happened to pass through our neighborhood.

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Avery: The key evidence comes from isotopes,

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specifically the ratio of two forms of carbon

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heavy water, in which some of the hydrogen

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has far less carbon 13 relative to

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carbon 12 than anything in our solar system.

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time as successive generations of stars are

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born, live, and explode. Less carbon

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a time before many stars had even had the

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massive star forming regions that were far

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more common in the early universe. And taken

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together, the Webb team concludes this comet

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formed during what astronomers call cosmic

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noon, when star formation across the universe

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Avery: Lead researcher Martin Cordiner of NASA's

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Goddard Space Flight center described it as a

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unique opportunity to study an ancient object

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from the distant galaxy, probably predating

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our sun and solar system. His words. On

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distant time and place, and on the other, we

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complementary evidence in the comet's carbon

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cementing the picture of an ancient, cold,

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comet is now departing our solar system,

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never to return. But the data it's left

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happen to be in their orbits. NASA's

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Perseverance rover has just delivered what

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reports that the rover's SHERLOCK instrument,

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a laser based spectrometer on the end of the

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robotic arm, has detected complex

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rocks at a site called Bright angel in an

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ancient river valley called Neretva

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Avery: The paper's own summary describes it as, and

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detection in Jezero Crater. That thus far

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and the only detection of macromolecular

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carbon on a natural rock surface on Mars.

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complex carbon based molecules, the kind that

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on Earth are associated with biology. But we

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that detecting organic carbon on Mars

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does not mean life. The SHERLOCK instrument

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cannot distinguish between carbon produced by

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biology and carbon produced by geology

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do is show that the chemical ingredients were

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there, and in this case, they were there in

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abundance. Hundreds of individual

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detections across just two rocks.

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the location these mudstones are at. Bright

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ancient river channel that fed Jezero

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Crater's western delta billions of years ago.

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the kind of place where on Earth you would

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its distinctive leopard spot markings.

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mystery. The other rock showed organic

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carbon associated with carbonate and sulfate

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minerals, both of which can be connected to

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biological processes.

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detection of this type of complex carbon in a

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where the Curiosity rover operates more than

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organics to form and survive may have been

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widespread across Mars, not just in one

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localized area.

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Anna: The samples Perseverance has collected are

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still sealed in its sample tubes, waiting for

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a future Mars sample return mission to bring

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laboratory, scientists will be able to run

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tests orders of magnitude more

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sophisticated than anything a rover

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instrument can perform. That's when the real

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Avery: Microlensing works by detecting the tiny

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brightening of a background star when a

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foreground star and any orbiting planets pass

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in front of it. Acting as a gravitational

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lens. It's a powerful technique for finding

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cold, distant planets that are otherwise

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invisible. And to do it, you need an

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incredibly crowded starfield, which, as it

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exoplanets. And when Roman comes online

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and begins repeatedly monitoring the same

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us the most complete picture yet. Yet of how

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many planets exist throughout the galaxy.

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Avery: For Australian and Southern Hemisphere

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listeners, you're in an ideal position to see

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the galactic center in the night sky. Right

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constellation Sagittarius. And under dark

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skies, away from city lights, you can see the

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glow of the bulge. With your naked eye,

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you're looking at the very region Euclid just

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complications that come with them. The

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International Space Station has been

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continuously inhabited for more than 24

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years. It's hosted astronauts from 22

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countries, conducted thousands of

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experiments, and served as humanity's

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permanent foothold in low Earth orbit. But

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its time is running out, and NASA's plan for

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how to retire it is now under scrutiny from

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some unexpected quarters.

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Anna: The plan, in brief, is

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starting in 2028, the ISS will

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begin a, uh, gradual orbital lowering.

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In mid-2029, NASA will launch

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a SpaceX built in deorbit

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vehicle and attach it to the station.

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That vehicle, fitted with 46

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Draco thrusters, will then push the

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entire structure out of orbit in a

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controlled re entry, targeting a

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splashdown in the remote South Pacific,

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near a location called Point Nemo.

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planet, more than 2,600 km

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from the nearest land. It's already known as

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a spacecraft cemetery. Russia's Mir station

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ended its days there, along with hundreds of

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other spacecraft. NASA chose it precisely

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because it minimizes the risk to any human

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population. But a leading ocean conservation

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organization says that calculation misses

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something important.

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D.C. says the deorbit plan, and

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adequately grappled with. The organization's

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president Mark Spalding, says there is a

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international law that the ISS de orbit

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debris falls on another nation's territory or

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launching country must pay compensation.

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beneath them, um, are not a nation's

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territory. There's no equivalent protection

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for the deep sea.

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The ISS weighs roughly

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450,000 kilograms.

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While much of the structure will burn up

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during re entry, denser heat resistant

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components, including pressurized modules,

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structural beams and hardware are expected

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to survive and reach the seafloor. The

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exact quantity and composition of what will

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sink is, according to critics,

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insufficiently studied.

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Avery: The concerns have now drawn the attention of

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the U.S. government Accountability Office,

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which has issued a report highlighting the

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issues. The Ocean foundation is calling for

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NASA to conduct a full environmental impact

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assessment before proceeding with the re

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entry, currently planned for around 2030 to

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2031. There's still time, but not

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unlimited time to address these questions.

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Anna: It's a fascinating tension. The very

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success of the ISS program, the

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sheer scale of the structure humanity built

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up there is now what makes disposing of

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it so complicated. And this case,

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as legal experts have noted, is likely to

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set precedents for how we handle the growing

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number of much larger orbital platforms

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expected in the coming decades.

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Moving on to our next story. Today,

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66 million years ago, a 10

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kilometer wide asteroid slammed into

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what is now the Yucatan Peninsula of

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Mexico with a force equivalent to

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billions of nuclear weapons. The

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impact triggered Megatsunami, a uh,

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global firestorm and a years long

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impact winter that blotted out the sun

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and wiped out roughly three quarters of

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all species on Earth, including

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every non avian dinosaur. It

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is the most studied extinction event in

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history.

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Avery: But new research from the University of

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Glasgow has uncovered a remarkable footnote

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to that catastrophe. While the surface of the

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Earth was plunged into darkness and death

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underground in the shattered rocks beneath

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the crater, life may have found a way,

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and not just briefly. The new study suggests

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it found the way for 8 million years.

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Anna: The Chicxulub crater, the scar left by

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that asteroid is buried beneath layers of

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sediment and ocean in the Gulf of Mexico.

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But it still spans nearly 200

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km in diameter. When the asteroid

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hit, the immense heat it generated

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fractured the bedrock and superheated water

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trapped in the rock, creating a vast

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hydrothermal system beneath the crater.

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A network of hot water flowing through

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porous shattered rock.

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Avery: Hydrothermal systems like this are well known

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on Earth at, uh, mid ocean ridges and

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volcanic vents. They host entire ecosystems

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of organisms that live completely

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independently of sunlight. Bacteria,

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tube worms, crabs, and more, all

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powered by chemical energy from the Earth's

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interior. The question for scientists has

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always been, how long did Chicxulub's version

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of this system survive?

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Anna: Previous estimates based on computer models

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from the early 2000s suggested about 2

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million years. The new study, led by Dr. Ann

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Marie Pickerskill of the Scottish

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University's Environmental Research center,

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used advanced argon. Argon dating of

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potassium rich feldspar crystals collected

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during a 2016 drilling expedition to the

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crater's peak ring. The result? The

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system remained active for at least 8 million

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years, four times longer than anyone had

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previously estimated, and the longest impact

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generated hydrothermal system ever

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documented.

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Avery: To be clear, this doesn't mean complex life

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was thriving underground while the dinosaurs

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went extinct. Above, we're talking about

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microbial life, bacteria and other

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microorganisms sheltering in the warm,

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chemically rich porous rock, shielded from

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the radiation and temperature extremes at the

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surface. But even that is extraordinary,

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and the

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Anna: implications extend beyond Earth.

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Mars has endured countless asteroid impacts

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over its history and may have once had liquid

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water. If the same dynamics applied there,

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and there's no reason to think they wouldn't

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then. Even as Mars became cold and dry on the

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surface, underground hydrothermal systems

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could have kept microbial life viable for

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millions of years. The Chicxulub finding

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makes that possibility more credible than

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ever.

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Avery: We close today with a story that's part

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astronomy, part cosmic detective work.

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And we'll admit it a little bit poetic.

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Somewhere between 4,000 and 5,000 light years

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away, in the constellation Gemini, there's a

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supernova remnant called

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IC443.

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Astronomers gave it a more evocative nickname

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long ago, the Jellyfish Nebula, for its

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billowing tentacle like filaments of glowing

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gas.

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Anna: It's one of the most photographed nebulae in

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the sky, a favorite of astrophotographers the

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world over. Its soft, wispy tendrils of

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light are, uh, the expanding shockwave from a

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star that died in a spectacular explosion

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somewhere between 3,000 and 30,000 years ago.

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It's beautiful. It's well studied, and

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astronomers thought they knew it well.

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Avery: But new research has revealed that the

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Jellyfish Nebula has been hiding something.

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Lurking right there in the bright glare of

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the Jellyfish itself, Barely visible against

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it, is a second supernova remnant connected

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to IC443 by a bright

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filament of gas. Astrophysicists are

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calling this the first. First confirmed pair

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of sibling supernova remnants ever

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identified.

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Anna: Two massive stars, born from the same cloud

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of gas and dust, lived out their lives in

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relative proximity, and then both died in

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supernovae, leaving behind these two glowing,

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expanding shells of debris. The fact that

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their remnants are still connected by that

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filament of gas tells us the two explosions

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happened close enough in space and time to

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interact with one another.

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Avery: What makes the discovery particularly

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striking is not just what was found, but

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where it was hiding. The second remnant had

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been there all along, but the Jellyfish

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Nebula's own brightness had been obscuring

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it, like trying to see a faint star right

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next to the Full Moon. It took careful

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analysis to disentangle the two structures

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and recognize the second for what it was.

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Anna: It's a reminder that even some of the most

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familiar objects in the sky can still

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surprise us. That even after decades of

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observation, the universe has a habit of

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tucking secrets away in plain sight,

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waiting for us to look a little more

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carefully.

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Avery: And for observers in Australia and New

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Zealand, the Jellyfish Nebula is in Gemini,

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which sits low on the northern horizon in

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winter evenings. While the nebula itself

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requires a telescope, it's a wonderful target

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for astrophotographers. And now, when you

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photograph it, you can tell people you're

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looking at two nebulae for the price of one.

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Anna: And that's our universe for today. An

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ancient interstellar traveler, older than the

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Sun. The strongest hint yet that Mars once

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had the chemistry for life. The most detailed

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portrait ever made of our galaxy's crowded

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heart. The ISS's complicated

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farewell. A crater that kept life burning

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Underground for 8 million years, and a, uh,

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nebula that turned out to be twins.

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Avery: The universe keeps delivering. Make sure you

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