Dec. 23, 2024
Dyson Spheres, Dark Matter Mysteries & Time Twists: #480 Q&A
Space Nuts Episode: Dyson Spheres, Dark Matter, and Time Distortions #480
Join Andrew Dunkley and Professor Fred Watson in the final fresh episode of the year as they tackle intriguing questions from listeners around the globe. From the mysteries of...
Space Nuts Episode: Dyson Spheres, Dark Matter, and Time Distortions #480
Join Andrew Dunkley and Professor Fred Watson in the final fresh episode of the year as they tackle intriguing questions from listeners around the globe. From the mysteries of Dyson spheres to the enigmatic effects of dark matter and the curious nature of time distortion, this Q&A edition is packed with cosmic conundrums and insightful discussions.
Episode Highlights:
- Dyson Spheres and Stellar Light: Explore the concept of Dyson spheres and their impact on planetary light and life. Uncover the truth about these megastructures and how they might affect solar systems.
- Dark Matter's Gravitational Pull: Delve into the hypothetical scenario of encountering a glob of dark matter in space. Understand the gravitational effects and whether a spaceship could be ensnared by dark matter's invisible clutches.
- Black Holes and Time-Space Switch: Investigate the theory that space and time swap roles beyond a black hole's event horizon. Consider the implications of this switch on the nature of escape and time travel.
- Time Distortion Without Gravity: Contemplate the possibility of time distortion occurring independently of gravity. Examine the connection between time, gravity, and acceleration as proposed by Einstein's theories.
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00:00 - This is our final regular Space Nuts episode of the year
01:45 - If a Dyson sphere surrounds a star, how does the planet get light
09:00 - Andrew Dunkley: Can dark matter be thrown out of a galaxy
12:38 - Fred from Sweden has yet another question about black holes
14:35 - There's a nice question on um, the physics stack exchange
16:23 - Buddy from Oregon asks question about time distortion and gravity
21:36 - Fred did a search on Google about the biggest astronomy stories of 2024
23:45 - We'll be digging up stories from the archives over the next few weeks
24:54 - Andrew Dunkley thanks Professor Fred Watson
✍️ Episode References
Dyson Sphere
[Dyson Sphere](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere)
Science Magazine
[Science Magazine](https://www.sciencemag.org/)
Square Kilometre Array
[Square Kilometre Array](https://www.skatelescope.org/)
Contact (Movie)
[Contact (1997)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118884/)
RAVE Project
[RAVE Project](https://www.rave-survey.org/)
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/space-nuts--2631155/support.
Join Andrew Dunkley and Professor Fred Watson in the final fresh episode of the year as they tackle intriguing questions from listeners around the globe. From the mysteries of Dyson spheres to the enigmatic effects of dark matter and the curious nature of time distortion, this Q&A edition is packed with cosmic conundrums and insightful discussions.
Episode Highlights:
- Dyson Spheres and Stellar Light: Explore the concept of Dyson spheres and their impact on planetary light and life. Uncover the truth about these megastructures and how they might affect solar systems.
- Dark Matter's Gravitational Pull: Delve into the hypothetical scenario of encountering a glob of dark matter in space. Understand the gravitational effects and whether a spaceship could be ensnared by dark matter's invisible clutches.
- Black Holes and Time-Space Switch: Investigate the theory that space and time swap roles beyond a black hole's event horizon. Consider the implications of this switch on the nature of escape and time travel.
- Time Distortion Without Gravity: Contemplate the possibility of time distortion occurring independently of gravity. Examine the connection between time, gravity, and acceleration as proposed by Einstein's theories.
For more Space Nuts, including our continually updating newsfeed and to listen to all our episodes, visit our website. Follow us on social media at SpaceNutsPod on Facebook, X, YouTube, Tumblr, Instagram, and TikTok. We love engaging with our community, so be sure to drop us a message or comment on your favourite platform.
For more Space and Astronomy News Podcasts, visit our HQ at www.bitesz.com.
Become a supporter of this podcast for extended commercial-free episodes and more. Visit our Support page for options: spacenutspodcast.com/about
Stay curious, keep looking up, and join us next time for more stellar insights and cosmic wonders. Until then, clear skies and happy stargazing.
00:00 - This is our final regular Space Nuts episode of the year
01:45 - If a Dyson sphere surrounds a star, how does the planet get light
09:00 - Andrew Dunkley: Can dark matter be thrown out of a galaxy
12:38 - Fred from Sweden has yet another question about black holes
14:35 - There's a nice question on um, the physics stack exchange
16:23 - Buddy from Oregon asks question about time distortion and gravity
21:36 - Fred did a search on Google about the biggest astronomy stories of 2024
23:45 - We'll be digging up stories from the archives over the next few weeks
24:54 - Andrew Dunkley thanks Professor Fred Watson
✍️ Episode References
Dyson Sphere
[Dyson Sphere](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere)
Science Magazine
[Science Magazine](https://www.sciencemag.org/)
Square Kilometre Array
[Square Kilometre Array](https://www.skatelescope.org/)
Contact (Movie)
[Contact (1997)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118884/)
RAVE Project
[RAVE Project](https://www.rave-survey.org/)
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/space-nuts--2631155/support.
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Hi there, thanks for joining us. This is Space Nuts.
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My name is Andrew Dunkley. This is our final Fresh
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episode of the year, and I'll tell you what we're
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doing at the end of the episode over the Christmas
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New Year period. But it's a Q and A episode,
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which means we'll answer audience questions. We'll be basically focusing
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on Dyson spheres today. We'll be getting a question about
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the dark matter effect as a matter of fact, and
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black hole effects and time distortion without gravity and if
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you can chuck anything else, and we will time permitting
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on this Q and A edition of Space Nuts fifteen
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second the Channel ten nine ignition sign Space Nuts NI
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or three two.
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Space Nuts has.
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Bill's good And for.
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The last, last, last, last, last time official this year,
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we welcome Professor Fred What's an astronomer at Larchello. Fred?
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Hello, Andrew, good to see you again. You true really
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really been missing you.
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It's been so long. But yes, it is our final
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episode of the year and we've got all audio questions
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today and we'll try to answer one or two of them.
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But yeah, it's been a busy year. There's been a
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lot to talk about. Some amazing discoveries, some mysteries that
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continue to elude us, and that's what tends to spawn
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most of our questions. To be perfectly honest, are you
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ready to get into it? And we'll take question one?
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Why do we do that?
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Yes? Nothing else today? I think all the questions come
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from regular contributors. Our first one comes from mikey.
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Ethrid and Andrew Hope everything's well done there in the
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Southern Hammy. This is Mackey again from Illinois. If a
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dison sphere is a megastructure surround the star, how does
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the planet get light or is the planet inside of
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the dison sphere as well? And if the latter is
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the case, do you just prevent every other planet or
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that's already in that start from receiving any light, heat
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and energy, completely wiping out any other chances for life
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on any of those other planets and our moons orbiting
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it like you know, like Europa or tighten here, I
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mean without if I'm biggeno this right, If a dice
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and sphere in cases the sun, you know, how's how's
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life going to get a chance without any heat or
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sun or any type of energy from that star? Anyways?
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Just trying to wrap us all on my head. See
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what you guys think.
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Thanks, Thanks Mirky, you might get out of perspects, Mikey,
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that's really the solution, m I didn't know. It's a
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really good question. I haven't really thought about that side
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of it. If a civilization had enough technology to build
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a Dyson sphere and harness the energy of the Solar
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System's star, what happens to the light and what happens
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to the planets that reliant on that light and that
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energy that's been mopped up by an object that's basically
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surrounding the Sun.
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So that's the I guess the misapprehension that most of
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us have and what a Dyson sphere is because Dyson
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himself didn't envisage that his I haven't read the paper. Actually,
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it's published in Science back in nineteen sixty. It's called
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Search for Artificial Stellar Sources of Infrared Radiation.
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What he's saying is.
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That if you've got a structure built around a star
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because you've got such an energy hungry civilization, then you basically,
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you know, you build things around the star that collect
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the energy from the star and turn it into electricity.
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and indeed he's suspecting that it would be perhaps the
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far infrared, longer wavelengths. So and his proposal was that
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that would be a far infra red signature around a
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star that you'd expect to be just pumping out visible light,
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wouldn't suggest that there was some sort of structure around it. Now,
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there is a quotation that I'm reading from Dyson himself
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who says a solid shell or ring surround a star
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is mechanically impossible. The form of biosphere which I envisaged
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consists of a loose collection or swarm of objects traveling
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on independent orbits around the star. And that's basically the
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bottom line that the dicesphere isn't really a solid sphere.
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It's a region around the star where you've got many
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objects in orbits, in independent orbits which are turning the
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energy of the star into electricity, so you're not harvesting
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all the light of the star. So Mikey's question is
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one that I hadn't really thought about before, but is
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almost directly answered by this, because you still have some
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of the radiation of the star that's leaking through coming
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between the swarming objects. It's not leaking, it's probably by
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far the bulk of that material. But you're adding to
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the light of the star this firing for a signature
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that tells you that there's object around the star that
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are artificial, and so you could probably put it wherever
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you want. I would guess the dysosphere around the Sun
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will be a swarm of objects, perhaps even inside the
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orbit of Mercury, and so there will be a slight
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reduction in the amount of energy going out to the
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rest of the Solar System. And it might be one
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of those things that would modify the climate of habitable
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planets like Earth. But it wouldn't shut down the light
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of the star altogether because you can't do that. It's
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mechanically impossible.
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It's dyce and so yeah, it certainly makes more sense
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when you explain it that way, and it's not dissimilar
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to what we're doing around the planet with communications satellites.
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I wonder if an alien species observing our planet from
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afar could detect that something's a little bit off because
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of all the satellites. Would that be possible? Do you
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think it would be?
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Well, this enough, you know, just straightforward radio radiation leaking
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from the Earth that will be detectable by certainly by
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a civilization having similar facilities to the square kilometer array
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which we have. The square kilmeter array claims that it
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will be able to detect an airport.
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Radar at fifty light years.
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So that's telling you that, you know, our airport radars
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will be detectable by as somebody at the other end
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having the same sort of equipment. Yeah, So it's so
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we're already we've already given away our presence in a
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cosmic sense. And I mean it's often quoted that the
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first high power radio broadcast that was made from Earth
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was the nineteen thirty six was it Munich Olympic Games
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that was broadcast around the world. And so there's a
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gentleman that wasn't really a gentleman, and that's saying a
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lot of things loudly and with force at that time
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in his speeches.
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His voice will be the.
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One that will go all around the local environment of
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the sun and make any alien.
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Not want to come here.
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I think, well, that was portrayed in the movie Contact
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with Jodie Foster, where the return signal from the alien
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species was images of the Nazis at the opening ceremony
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of the Olympic GA. Yeah, it was well used, very
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well used in that film. But in terms of a
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dison sphere around a star, yeah, not a solid object
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blocking light, but multiple objects collecting. What did you say
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on the infrared spectrum?
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And yeah, yeah, well really bilating it as far infra red.
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That's right, the collecting the visible light and re emitting
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it as far in for red. So it changes the
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spectrum signature of the star. And that's what Dyson's paper
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is about.
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All right, So nothing to worry about, Mikey, nothing to
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worry about. It's all good. Thanks, thanks for your question.
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Our next question comes from.
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Bill Hill, San Francisco Bay Area. I appreciate you guys
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answering my last question, which was can dark matter be
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thrown out of a galaxy and travel through space through
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some sort of gravitational event? So I'll give you an
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A plus plus and a cold star on that answer.
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Good job. And my next question has related if there
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was a glob of dark manner floating in space and
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I got too close to it in my spaceship with
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the dark matters gravity, pull me in and hold on.
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Jimmy and not let me go. So that's my question.
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Love the show.
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Thanks okay, thank you Bill. We'll be in San Francisco
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in a few months, Judy and know I. So we
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were going to once before, but we didn't. We regretted that,
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so we're going to go back. Yeah, the effect of
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dark matter. If you run, you're in your spaceship, in
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your yep, hit a glob of dark matter, or you're
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in its proximity. Are you stuck? I suspect not.
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No, I don't think you would be.
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Andrew.
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I think you're right.
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Because we've got We did some work on the Rave project,
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which I was involved with back in the early two thousands,
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which looked at the minimum size of a dark matter
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blob because we were measuring the velocities of stars, and
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if you've got blobs of dark matter, you would expect
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that to be revealed in anomalies in the velocities of stars.
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And we didn't see any anomalies. And I think that
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meant that you don't get dark matter blobs less. I'm
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trying to remember the number. I think it's about one
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hundred light years or thereabouts. Should go back and look
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through my stuff. But you're talking about very large lumps
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of stuff being the minimum quantity of dark matter, because
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we don't really know what it is. We don't know
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how it reacts with itself, but we believe that dark
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matter doesn't clump on those very small scales, and so
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you probably wouldn't notice it in your spaceship probably, you
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know the the It would be such a gradual change
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that your spacecraft would might deviate a tiny amount, but
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it certainly wouldn't be grabbed hold of so that you
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couldn't get away.
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alarms going off, that's right. The claxons wouldn't be blaring
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or whatever it is they use on spaceships to tell
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you something strictfully.
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Wrong or something like that.
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Yes, yeah, so yeah, you probably wouldn't notice anything, Bill,
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You wouldn't even see it. It's just it's there. It's
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you know, we haven't even proven it, except we've proved it,
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we haven't found any is that right? No, I don't know.
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It's it's one of those mysteries we're still working on.
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We're looking for.
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Yeah, it's yes, there are many candidates for what it
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might be, but we haven't found any of them yet,
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so yeah, m hmmm, sort of telling about because of
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some sort that's the thing. Yes, that's it, that's what's
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the matter. All right, Thank you Bill.
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This is Space Nuts with Andrew Dunkley and Professor Fred.
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What'son space Nuts? Okay? Our next question, Fred comes from Sweden.
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Hi Fred and Andrew, O.
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You're from the west coast of Sweden. Here, I have
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yet another question about black holes. Is it true that
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space and time swhich rolls the moment you paused the
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event horizon? And if so, does that mean that space
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can go only in one direction, in one dimension towards
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the center, hence being the reason why nothing can get out?
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And does it also mean that time can go in
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any direction inside the event horizon?
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Thanks?
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Love the show. Thanks okay, lovely to hear from you
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west coast. Is there an east coast of Sweden for it?
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I need to look at a bed certainly is yeah?
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Okay, okay, it's mostly forgive my ignorance, but I've never
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been to that part of the world.
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Yeah, oh sorry, all right, So we'll be up there
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next month month after Lovely.
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All right, well, we'll be up around that way in
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July maybe July next year.
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I would think.
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I didn't you know, I've now forgotten this question.
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But it's about time and space in exchange on the
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advent horizon. And unfortunately I haven't had time to look
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at these questions in advance because I just had too.
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Much to do.
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And so that is one that I would need to
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follow up in.
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A bit more detail.
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I've heard the same thing, but I don't really know
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the physics of it. Just let me check something here, Andrew.
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I love it when we do this. I love it
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when we do this, just finding the answer on the fly.
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Well, it's good if we can.
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It doesn't always work.
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So here we are.
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There's a nice question on the physics stack exchange, which
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is our space and time interchangeable?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, And it's.
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Quite hard to quiet tired to tease out what's fact
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from what's fiction. It is all about Are there similar questions?
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