Nov. 14, 2024
#469: Ryugu's Magnetic Mysteries, Arecibo's Silent Collapse & Venusian Impact Revelations
Space Nuts Episode 469: Ryugu Revelations and Celestial Mysteries
Join Andrew Dunkley and Professor Fred Watson in this enthralling episode of Space Nuts, where they delve into the latest astronomical discoveries and cosmic stories. From the secrets...
Space Nuts Episode 469: Ryugu Revelations and Celestial Mysteries
Join Andrew Dunkley and Professor Fred Watson in this enthralling episode of Space Nuts, where they delve into the latest astronomical discoveries and cosmic stories. From the secrets of asteroid Ryugu to the mysterious demise of the Arecibo Observatory, this episode is packed with fascinating insights and stellar discussions.
Episode Highlights:
- Ryugu's Magnetic Mysteries: Uncover new findings from the Ryugu asteroid samples, revealing insights into the magnetic fields of the outer solar system. Explore how these discoveries might reshape our understanding of planetary formation and the solar nebula.
- Arecibo's Tragic End: Learn about the sad fate of the iconic Arecibo Observatory and the invisible issues that led to its collapse. Discover the plans for transforming this historic site into an education centre for future generations.
- Venusian Impact Crater Discovery: Dive into the intriguing discovery of a massive impact crater on Venus, revealing unexpected similarities with ice moons like Callisto and Europa. Delve into the theories that suggest a past where Venus had a lava-covered surface.
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00:00 - This is Space Nuts. Thank you for joining us
00:35 - Professor Fred Watson discusses Venus on this episode of space nuts
02:45 - Russia put 53 satellites into orbit in one launch the other day
05:17 - Scientists have found no sign of a preserved magnetic field in Ryugu samples
14:36 - Andrew Dunkley with Professor Fred Watson studying Ryugu asteroid sample
15:21 - The Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico collapsed in 2020
23:13 - National Science foundation says the building will be turned into an education centre
24:37 - Fred Call says Venus' craters are much younger than similar craters elsewhere
32:53 - Yes. Isn't that amazing? That's really big pickup. Indeed. Um, Fred mentioned it. Yeah.
33:03 - Please leave a review if you listen to us through whatever platform
33:56 - All right, so, yeah, Fred Watson, astronomer at large
Join Andrew Dunkley and Professor Fred Watson in this enthralling episode of Space Nuts, where they delve into the latest astronomical discoveries and cosmic stories. From the secrets of asteroid Ryugu to the mysterious demise of the Arecibo Observatory, this episode is packed with fascinating insights and stellar discussions.
Episode Highlights:
- Ryugu's Magnetic Mysteries: Uncover new findings from the Ryugu asteroid samples, revealing insights into the magnetic fields of the outer solar system. Explore how these discoveries might reshape our understanding of planetary formation and the solar nebula.
- Arecibo's Tragic End: Learn about the sad fate of the iconic Arecibo Observatory and the invisible issues that led to its collapse. Discover the plans for transforming this historic site into an education centre for future generations.
- Venusian Impact Crater Discovery: Dive into the intriguing discovery of a massive impact crater on Venus, revealing unexpected similarities with ice moons like Callisto and Europa. Delve into the theories that suggest a past where Venus had a lava-covered surface.
For more Space Nuts, including our continually updating newsfeed and to listen to all our episodes, visit our website. Follow us on social media at SpaceNutsPod on facebook, X, YouTube, Tumblr, Instagram, and TikTok. We love engaging with our community, so be sure to drop us a message or comment on your favourite platform.
For more Space and Astronomy News Podcasts, visit our HQ at www.bitesz.com.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/space-nuts/support.
Stay curious, keep looking up, and join us next time for more stellar insights and cosmic wonders. Until then, clear skies and happy stargazing.
00:00 - This is Space Nuts. Thank you for joining us
00:35 - Professor Fred Watson discusses Venus on this episode of space nuts
02:45 - Russia put 53 satellites into orbit in one launch the other day
05:17 - Scientists have found no sign of a preserved magnetic field in Ryugu samples
14:36 - Andrew Dunkley with Professor Fred Watson studying Ryugu asteroid sample
15:21 - The Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico collapsed in 2020
23:13 - National Science foundation says the building will be turned into an education centre
24:37 - Fred Call says Venus' craters are much younger than similar craters elsewhere
32:53 - Yes. Isn't that amazing? That's really big pickup. Indeed. Um, Fred mentioned it. Yeah.
33:03 - Please leave a review if you listen to us through whatever platform
33:56 - All right, so, yeah, Fred Watson, astronomer at large
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Hello again, thank you for joining us. This is Space
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Nuts where we talk about all sorts of astronomical and
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space science things. And coming up on today's show, we're
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going to get some more information from Reugu, the asteroid
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that they took some samples from about four four years ago.
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It's back in the news because, yeah, we talked about
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it a few weeks ago, and now we're looking at
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maybe the origins of our outer Solar system. Some new
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information on what really happened to the Aricibo Observatory and
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it's a bit of a sad tale. And then we
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head the Venus. Now, Venus doesn't have many big asteroid
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impact or impact craters, and they're not very old compared
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to the rest of the Solar System. However, they think
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they've found one that breaks the mold, certainly broke Venus.
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We'll talk all about that on this episode of Space
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Ignition Space Nuts or three two.
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One Space Nurse as when actually bought it. Bill's good
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and here he is the man of the hour. It
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is Professor Fred watsonn Astronomer at Large. Hello, Fred, Hi Andrew,
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how are you doing. I'm not I've noticed that in
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most of the recordings we do, I wear dark colors,
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so today I thought i'd wear a white shirt. It's
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actually one of my golf shirts, because I believe it
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or not. Before we recorded today, I went out and
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had nine holes and I was running so late because
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it was slow, I had to come straight in here
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to record. So I don't smell too good, and that
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has caused Judy to leave the building. So really, Wellucky,
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this isn't smell a vision.
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Yes it is, but it sort of harks back to
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what we're talking about a couple of weeks ago about
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maybe aliens will communicate by smell, so you might be
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sending out a signals to the alien world.
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Well, they'll never come here, that's the case. I won't
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want to come.
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It looks very smart, Andrew. And actually you've caught me
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off guard because I very nearly wore a light colored
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shirt today, and then I thought, I know Andrew will
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be dressed in something dark. I've just got the same
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little blue one.
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A well, look at that. You know. Unfortunately, golf shirts
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that are white tend to show a lot of dirt.
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And yeah, that's why I've got the collar up because
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all the dirts. It's horrible like that's here. Plus our
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golf course is a very dirty, dusty golf course compared
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to most as well known ones you see on television.
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So yeah, before we get onto the stories, fred I
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read something that I thought would interest you, given that
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we talk about this semi regularly. But the week just gone,
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Russia aid a record launch of satellites. They put fifty
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three satellites into orbit in one launch the other day,
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which is a record for Russia. But what interested me
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about it was the payload. Wasn't just Russian satellites. I mean,
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they've got satellites for their own purposes. I think most
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of them were, including their news agency tasks I think
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it's called. So there were Russian satellites, there were Chinese
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satellites on there, which probably shouldn't come as any surprise.
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This one might surprise people though. Iran a couple of
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satellites for Iran, and they launched a couple of SATs
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for Zimbabwe as well. Yeah, but that just adds more
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satellites to the growing numbers in orbit around the planet.
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The Russians still have because they were contracted to one WEB,
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which is one of the satellite consolation companies actually owned
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I think the principal shareholders a British but other countries
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as well, and one Web originally contracted to the Russian
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Federation for launches with their soyots launch vehicles. And when
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the invasion twenty twenty two invasion of Crimea took sorry
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of Ukraine took place, the I can't remember which way
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around it was, but essentially yes, because of the various
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boycotts and things of that sort, the Russians commandeered those
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twenty twenty one web spacecraft that they had already to go.
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They were going to launch twenty one Web satellites, but
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they've still got them, and one Web very quickly changed
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and went with SpaceX.
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In fact, yeah, gosh, yeah, I wouldn't like to be
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a lawyer riding up contracts for all this kind of work.
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Exactly.
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It sounds like it's a pretty amazing business the luks
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in it, yes, exactly. Yeah, But that satellite, of all
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those multiple satellite arrays that are starting to build up
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around the planet just get thicker and thicker, which, as
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we previously mentioned week or two or three back, not
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a good thing for the environment either. Not just people
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who want to look out into space. Speaking of looking
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out into space, well, this was actually a mission, the
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Higher Buss two mission to Reugu about four years ago,
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when it retrieved some samples from the asteroid and brought
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them back and they've been studying those and a few
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weeks ago we did talk about one of the things
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that Reugu has now revealed in terms of planetary formation
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and maybe how life evolved on this planet. Now it's
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revealing more data on the origin of our outer Solar System,
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and it sounds like it was all done with magnets
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or was a blue tack magnets.
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Yeah, it is an interesting worry. This is quite complex,
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but you're absolutely right. It's more data coming back from
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the samples of the asteroid Yugu, but brought back, as
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you said, by Hyabusa two in twenty twenty. And so
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what has happened. As well as the chemical analysis that
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you've just referred to that was done on the various
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grains of material from this mission, scientists have now done
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magnetic analyzes and basically these have been done with some
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tiny grains of dust from Riugua, only about a millimeter across,
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but they've been measured very accurately by device called a magnetometer, which,
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as you might guess, measures magnetic field strength. And so
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they've essentially stuck this thing in a laboratory with a magnetometer,
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and the tiny grains have had their magnetic fields sampled.
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And the interesting bit is there's no sign of a
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preserved magnetic field in these samples, which is a surprise.
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I'll tell you why in a minute. I'm looking at
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Fitz dot Oak, one of our favorite websites for this news,
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and I'm going to read a little paragraph from their
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article on this which explains it a lot more accurately
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than I could. The scientists determined that the samples held
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no clear sign of a preserved magnetic field. This suggests
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that either there was no nebula field present, and by
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that they mean the field of the magnetic field of
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the nebula from which the Solar system formed, and that
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was a cloud of gas and dust. It suggests that
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either there was no nebula field present in the outer
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Solar system where the asteroid first formed, or the field
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was so weak that it was not recorded in the
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asteroid's grain. If the latter is the case, the team
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estimates that such a weak field would have been no
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more than fifteen microtesla in intensity. Now I think, as
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I understand it, I really should check this, but I
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think that's about a quarter of the Earth's magnetic field.
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So there's a bit more to say though, So that
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the Riugu samples didn't really have any magnetic field, and
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that's a surprise because we believe that nebula probably would
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have had a magnetic field. So another paragraph, if I may.
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The researchers also re examined data from previously studied meteorites.
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They specifically looked at ungrouped car carbonaceous chondrites, which are
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meteors meteorites that have properties that are characteristic of having
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formed in the outer Solar System. Scientists had estimated the
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samples were not old enough to have formed before the
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Solar nebula disappeared. Now, the solar nebula is the cocoon
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in which the Solar System was born, and it was
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eventually blown away by winds from the Sun when it
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went through a windy phase. So it says any magnetic
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field recorded a record that the samples contained then would
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not reflect the nebula field. But the team decided to
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take a close So look, we reanalyzed the ages of
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these samples and found they are closer to the start
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of the Solar System than previously thought. We think these
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samples formed in this distant outer region, and one of
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those samples actually does have a positive field detection of
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about five microtesla, which is consistent with that upper limit
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of fifteen microtesla they they spoke about before. So what
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they're suggesting is that the outer Solar system, way beyond
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the orbit of Jupiter, probably beyond the orbit of Neptune,
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had a very weak magnetic field, but were still strong
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enough that material from the very limits of the soule
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and nebula were pulled in and perhaps formed things like
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Uranus Neptune, some of the you know, the smaller bodies,
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the trans Neptunian objects. And a comment from one of
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the authors of this paper and really credited who they are,
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but they are a group of scientists in a number
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of different universities, led actually by a postdoctoral researcher at
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Cambridge University in the UK. So they go on to say,
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when you when you're further from the Sun, a weak
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magnetic field goes a long way. It was predicted that
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it doesn't need to be that strong out there, and
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that's what we're seeing. But still it's a real thing
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that the magnetic field is real, but it was predicted
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to be weak, and that's what they're seeing with the
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evidence that they're getting from these Yugur samples and some
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earlier meteorites that have been delivered to us from space,
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probably by an asteroid in a few million years ago.
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So fifteen micro tesla, which is only thirty percent of
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our own magnetic field, he is today, which is which
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is fifteen micro tesla. So so that's not that's not
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a big number from what you say.
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Yes, that's right, it's it's not a big number. I mean,
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I've always thought the US magnetic field was quite healthy,
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but it's you know, it's when you compare it with
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some of the magnetism that's used in industry or in
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scientific research, it's pretty weak.
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Yeah, well, there's a bootknote. You have to recharge a
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tesla halfway to Sydney.
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Especially if it's a micro tesla. So one footnote to
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this story is that the same team they're going to
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look at samples from the asteroid Benu, which was which
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is also had samples returned to Earth, this time by
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NASA's cyrus Rex, not a Cyrus rocks, but the cyrus
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Rex space grab came back to Earth in September last year.
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So it would be really interesting to see what results
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they get from that if they do get their hold
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on get a hold on some of these samples from Benue. Indeed,
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you did.
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Say something that I picked up on and I thought
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it was worth revisiting. You said, the nebula that created
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our solar system was ultimately blown away by the Sun
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or the Sun's solar winds, whatever. So even at the
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very beginning, we were destroying our creator by the said, yes,
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that's right, blowing it away.
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That's right. So we know that stars forming gas clouds,
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clouds of gas and dust. We see it. You know,
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when you look at the pillars of creation, that's what
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you're actually seeing, pillars of dust with stole formation taking
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place at the middle. And we know that very early
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on in the life history of a star it goes
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through a phase which is known as the t Tory phase.
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T Toy is the name of a variable star and
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it's the sort of you know, basically the prototype of
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this type of activity. And when they're going through the
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t tourist phase. They're sort of blowing away the rest
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of the debris. And we see that too the Pliodes,
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the PLI d Es star cluster, which we see as
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the seventh Sisters in the sky in our summer sky
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here in Australia. They are when you look at them
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with a big telescope or even with a small telescope
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these days, with the modern detectors that we have, you
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can see they're surrounded by a sort of blue shell.
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There's a lot of blue material in them, and that
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blue is the reflection of light from dust. It's actually
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why smoke. It's the same thing that makes smoke look
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blue when sunlight falls, and it's a process called rarely scattering,
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which scatters the blue light preferentially. And so we see
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all this blue dusty stuff which is surrounding the Pliodies.
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Now we think the Pliodes are only about ten million
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years old. They're a young star cluster. So those stars
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have just gone through their te tory phase. And what
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we see is, you know, the last remnants of that
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dust cloud, the cloud of gas and dust in which
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they were born. So it's blown all the debry away
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and the Sun must have done the same thing as well,
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probably not long after its formation four point six billion
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years ago.
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Yeah, it's just gone, hey, I'm here now, get wreck off.
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So just sweeping up, sweeping up the debris really yeah, yeah,
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cleaning up after itself. Maybe, yes. And yeah, it's exciting
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that we're getting so much data from such a small
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sample from her Reugu asteroid. And there'll be more to come,
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I do not doubt. If you'd like to read up
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on that story fizz dot org, as Fred said, or
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you can read the whole thing lock stock and barrel
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with the five million people who signed the report in
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the journal A gu Advances. There's a space nuts Andrew
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Dunkley here with Professor Fred. What's an Okay, we've tacked
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all space nuts now to a story that we have
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done a couple of times, and that was the demise
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