Hay que discutir la renuncia del presidente de Ecopetrol, Ricardo Roa: Jorge Robledo

0:00 One of those very small shareholders, but very well informed, is former Senator Jorge Enrique Robledo, who was for decades one of the most prominent legislators in political control and now wants to use that experience to ask uncomfortable questions in the Assembly, about everything that is happening in ecopeton. Dr Jorge Enrique Robledo. Good morning, very good morning, very good morning, Daniel, and to the Board of Directors also to forgiveness work. So are my greetings. I understand that you are already preparing to ask the Board of Directors, Dr Robledo, first of all to resolve a curiosity to me. You were already a shareholder of Copetrol from before or bought shares now to be able to speak in this Assembly, which paints you as the most complicated in the Company' s history to remember this. I spent 20 years on the Senate Chemical Commission, which is the Petroleum and Environmental Affairs Commission, etc. So this is a subject that I' m passionate about with two and everyone. Or the horrors that are happening in this government, which include having a President of the Republic who hates oil and gásquez. The only President in the world who is in that attitude has phobia. I came to the conclusion that I had to buy a few shares so that I could go to the Assembly and make requests as a shareholder, because the requests that one makes to the top copetrola the Presidency of copetro He as a citizen answer them badly or they do not answer them.

1:26 So, what I am doing not later, of course, a business, but to continue to do here with the duty that has imposed upon me many years ago to act with the logic of a public servant. So I bought a few shares and we' re forming a group of copetól shareholders that we' re going to become a watchdog before what happens in that company, in addition to what Congress can do. For example, I know that there was a right of petition in February asking for information from a Senator of the Republic and they have not answered it. That' s not the way it can be. Well, then. Let' s go get that company' s information. It is true that it is difficult for its subsidiaries to comply with a right of petition. I' ve been processing for a year and they' ve returned it to me and I' ve earned your fabrics and then I' ve lost them. Secondly and finally, it has not been possible for me to have a right of petition on a Copetrol business. But, well, that' s another topic. What do you know about the enigmatic RIFX control report on the risks Ecopetrol faces in situations involving its President?

2:28 Yeah, that' s a report because I understand, no, no, no, it' s not published. I don' t know him. I have to say it very clearly. The editorial of the time a few days ago already mentioned it. But there are things that go knowing and it goes knowing from the start. Of that which you point out, that you point out Daniel no, and that there is one is so critical of the report in relation to Dr Roa' s exploits that he proposes as a need for the company to look carefully, a temporary retreat or toto from Mr President de Copetrol. That is already a fact, because it is not serious. It is a report of more than a hundred pages that goes into a lot of detail. But finally, what I think would have to be done is a campaign right now for it to be published and I say it as a Colombian and as a shareholder, the competing demand that I publish in that insorme, that they hand it over to the media, hand it over to all Colombians so that we can go into detail. But what things will be like.

3:29 They stop serious that he mentions, that he draws conclusions as you are now, But it' s not surprising to me, Daniel, because they look at the single errors of cavalry with the corruption of Dr Roa when he was president of the Bogotá energy company, in a crooked and massive company that there was in Guatemala, of a subsidiary company in which he acted as alcahueta. When this matter became known, that only enabled him to be President Petro, because that is not a sheet of life. Look at the entanglements in what is still Petro' s presidential campaign. There may be some very serious things in this regard about the financing of that campaign. Well from the outset, it seems that the reports of the contributions of Mr and Clides Torres to the campaign, which Gustavo Petro' s own son says are true, do not appear. That' s not appearing in the campaign figures. And for Dr Torres already has contracts with the alternative energy business for a hundred eighty billion dollars well And what' s going on with the board of directors and with what they want to do is that what they want is to impose a board of directors in which several of its members have no merit to make members of that board, beyond saying that they are recommended for peto and that they are friends of peto. And in that, with the pimps or the support of the Minister of Finance himself, then they are handling the Petrole I said it in some detail as if it were a shop owned by Dr Gustavo Petro,

5:00 the Minister of Finance, the doctor' s doctor to what about the exploits, when seraphim yacono have two members of the board of directors, the only ones who are backing the doctor at this time. The current members of the board of directors are two who, in addition, are shareholders of a company of seraphim yacono of the oil world. It can' t be that this is a respect, a respect that is being given to Colombians with these behaviors. So I' m not just surprised and I' m convinced here that so it has to be that that report from that firm consol Rick, has to tell a lot of stories, because they have to be very serious, because if I, that I am not a researcher, if I am not a researcher, I know about these things, imagine what those who have access to more information of the action will know. In addition to the relays in the board of directors, next Friday' s Assembly proposes amendments to the statutes of co- petroleum. You have concerns about these statutory changes. Yes, that may be the most serious thing of all is that we remember that Dr Petro has a phobia of oil and gas. It is, I repeat, the only oil country president in the world who practically strangled new explorations to find oil and gas, which means that we are going to run out of oil and gas. I give listeners a fact that is very simple to understand the importance of gas. In the last of the oil forgiveness. Over the past

6:35 three years, Colombia' s oil exports have added forty- six million dollars. Without the economy of copetrole and oil sinking in Colombia, as can happen because of the irresponsible attitude of President Gustavo Petro and his ministers and the President of Copeton, there could be an economic catastrophe. And what happens in the bylaws include at a point forgiveness in the Assembly, they include at a point to modify the bylaws by putting copetrol into a whole kind of alternative energy business. And I don' t get that there are generally alternative energies and there ' s climate change. Some things need to be taken care of, but a very large part of those businesses are very high- risk businesses, such as meter and copetrole in hydrogen business, which is an absolutely new technology.

7:29 It' s a very complicated thing. The copetón has no resources, then what happens if the copetón gets into that crazy way, as the petro wants in the business of alternative energies and that they are shitting it steals, because what they can end up breaking the company, at least leading it to an immense crisis, besides that they are turning it into a center of politics and assistance and clientelism. So what we' re going to raise in the Board of Directors is two things, because it' s one thing that is delayed in decisions at least until we get serious studies, because they also lead us to vote like blind hooks. There is no serious report on the new members of the Board of Directors to justify because they have to be there. It ' s just there. I' m sure there are candidates who can' t read or balance people who have zero experience in economic and oil matters.

8:18 It can' t be me I understand Petro putting friends with him, supporters of him, but he has to put them among those who know, that is, the doctor. Petro cannot continue to turn ignorance into a virtue, which is one of the things they have us doing, because it is with the silver of the Colombians who are playing. That is a particularly serious fact which then tells us to postpone that change of board of directors as there is no condition. Well, it' s being handled in the illegality, let ' s say, or the irregularity. But good that if you postpone that decision, while this is discussed calmly and particularly that the decision of the Board is postponed, that of the change of this part of the Board, so that we do not get involved in the economic adventures and I believe that, as things go, we must discuss the resignation of the President of COPET.

9:07 I believe that this has to be a debate, which must be placed on the agenda so that we can give our opinion on whether Dr Roa should submit his resignation, because these things that are being heard have the right to be raised by the actions. Then there is going to be an Assembly where we are going to talk with everything, with everything, with all frankness, as it has to be. The fact that the national government has ninety percent of the shares does not give it the right to run over two hundred and sixty thousand shareholders who have private shares there, nor to run over twelve million Colombians who have their savings in the private funds of tensions that are shareholders of Copetón. That is what we are going to do to the House. In the last few hours, colleague Jorge Espinosa de Caracol revealed that Nestor Camilo Martínez, the son of Nestor Ruperto Martínez, is advising the president of copetro Ricardo Roa in the relay of the board of directors. Few people have gotten along as badly as President Gustavo Pedro and ester Huberto Martínez. You explain how the president of Copetrol, so close to Petro, has as an advisor the son of Ester Humberto, Dr Robres. I had a relative who said that there were people who were able to do anything, anything, and I am coming to the conclusion that among Jesus is Dr Gustavo Pecho, because it is that Copetrol ends up hiring Néstor Camilo Martínez, that is, the son of Nestor Humberto Martínez, and I am convinced that it is the signature of Nestor Humberto Bla that he is representing. Yes, because what he has right now is from the Piper Martínez Beltrán, and that firm created it not Estor Humberto a few

10:43 years ago and it was with the same name. But instead of Martinez Beltrán, it was Martinez. Naije then that he ends up being a copetroleum hiring last or through his son with Néstor Humberto Martínez, as it is something like almost incredible. I suppose even the Petris are more furibund will be very strikingly impressed. And I' m not surprised then that the concept of the Néstor Camilo Martínez, is to tell him copetrol, not fresh. I mean, here we go, we' re shooting while it comes to the Bogotá order, as they said about General Masa, because what he' s saying is that yes, it' s regulatory stuff there. But, well, this is solved by paying a very maybe we don' t worry, not how they can be running a company of this caliber, that way. A thousand thanks to former Senator Jorge Tique Robledo.