What are we doing in LA? with Jennifer Elise Cox... (S3 E14 "Sex and Another City")

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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are you a Charlotte? Hi?

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Speaker 2: Everybody, welcome to Are You a Charlotte?

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Speaker 1: Today? We have a really fun guest. I've known her for a very long time. Her name is Jennifer lease Cox. Her breakout role was in nineteen ninety five when she played Jan in The Brady Bunch movie. She's also been on our show, Sex and the City, Web Therapy, Six Feet Underwilling Grace, That Come Back to Broke Girls, Abvid Elementary, so many things. We have the best time. Please enjoy.

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Speaker 3: You guys. It's very, very exciting.

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Speaker 1: We have the incredible Jennifer lease Cox with us today.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, you are the incredible one.

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Speaker 1: No, you are.

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Speaker 3: Drop it. It's so nice to see you.

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Speaker 2: And I was saying to my producers.

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Speaker 1: I used to see her all the time, like don't you remember, like we'd just be out in the world.

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Speaker 3: I remember the last time it was ice cream and you were with Marsha Cross. I literally like, she's going next so good eating ice cream. I used to always see Marsha Cross outlet shopping at the camera. Oh we love that place. Oh that was a day trip, especially when you're an actress kind of starting out, like you get the good stuff.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you need the good stuff, but you can't pay full I mean who can pay full price?

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Speaker 3: And now no, right, gosh, that's so funny. I mean I just remember.

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Speaker 1: I just remember, like running into you randomly so much like in the would have been like the early aughts.

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Speaker 3: I would think, these loved you and your energy, your spirit. You're always so nice to me too, and just so much fun. And it's so nice to see nice people. Is essentially that our supportive Oh my god, we were just discussing this before you got here. It's the best. It is the best.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like I don't know if people really know this now, but I do feel like it is something where like when you first start, you don't really know that people are gonna be nice and welcoming, and then they really are. I feel like mostly, and you're happy. You're so relieved. Yeah, right, you're so relieved because when you're in the situation of like auditioning, auditioning, auditioning, you don't necessarily get that obviously, because you're all in the same boat of like please God, let me get it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: And it's such a weird bubble of the auditioning thing because you just I mean, you go in and you do your things. Sometimes you hear other people doing the same.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it makes me crazy just sit in the waiting room and be able to hear them totally, totally.

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Speaker 3: You know who else we had on the podcast Christine Taylor. Oh my god. I love Christine so much, and she was the supportive actress. I didn't know what I was doing film wise, I learned it from watching Christine.

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Speaker 1: She's amazing, amazing, so supportive and lovely a human being. And her daughter worked on in just like that. Ella, incredible person.

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Speaker 3: What episode was that?

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Speaker 2: The final couple?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: She plays the girl that Miranda's son Brady gets pregnant.

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Speaker 3: Oh she's great, right, that's Ella. God, that's amazing. That makes sense. She's great.

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Speaker 1: And wouldn't it been fun if we had continued the show and we could have seen their baby?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, And I love the show and it should have gone on. You're sorry, so good, best show ever. My mother was like devastated when it was over. She loves this so much. It loves you so sweet. It's still hard to process. I'm still processing, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Also because I would just work with them forever, you know, like it's your family.

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Speaker 2: It's a joy. Yeah, it's a joy to be able to do.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, amazing. And I know Michael Patrick King from Wade every one of the shows. Luckily, luckily I beg him. Amazing.

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Speaker 2: So how did you meet him?

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Speaker 3: We did some stuff at his theater company that he had that was down the Helms Bakery building called Arcade.

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Speaker 4: I remember I went, oh, yes, this is partly why we had so much crossover.

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Speaker 3: We had much crossover. We are meant to stay in touch. Yes, yeah, but his theater company was incredible. And I remember Michael telling me like he was fired from every job before Sex and the City, Like that's amazing. This is so brilliant, but so pacific. He's super specific and.

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Speaker 1: That's well played well, but very very specific. So you were on our show, you were on Two Roke Girls, you were on the comeback.

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Speaker 3: Yes, amazing, And I'm so glad I was on the comeback because I was really in good shape then and like it is like it is encapsulated for all times because I will never look that good listen. Isn't that how we always feel? Right?

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Speaker 1: You're just doing your best for that time that you're on camera because that will live on film, and once that's over, you're like.

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Speaker 3: I can eat right.

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Speaker 2: Totally totally.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just curious because each one. So you were just briefly in our show. Unfortunately there wasn't more for you to do, but you did come. So you saw our show, then you saw I guess it would have been The Comeback next and then Two Broke Girls. Yes, all very different shows. How would you compare them as an actor?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: What was it like? How are they different?

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Speaker 3: Well? I have to say I am the hugest Sex in the City, so I mean that. Come on. I mean I love the other shows too, and they were amazing to be in. But Sex and the City was amazing, and you guys were all so sweet and I remember we were all singing in the trailer. Do you remember singing? Girl?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Sorry, Jessica Parker. Sure, Jessica Parker.

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Speaker 1: I never learned the Spice Girls until I started working with Sarah, and then it was just a given.

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Speaker 3: You had to join, You had to join, you had to join. Yes, she was an amazing singer, and she can sing so sweet, and we had so much fun because we were we were in La yeah, and Vince Vaughn was there, and she was so hot.

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Speaker 1: When I rewatched this episode, and I know Vince and I went to an island with Vince for about six weeks.

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Speaker 3: I know Vince really well, and I was like, what I remember this Vince? Oh my god, I mean, good lord, he.

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Speaker 2: Was hot in this show.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I had forgotten.

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Speaker 1: And you know, when you know someone, it changes your perception anyway. But it's just like the best Vince in this episode, Like he's yeah, charming.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking. It was so funny because I remember between scenes, I was like waiting out there we were shooting, and Sarah Jessica Parker came out over to me and she's like hot, he is so hot. Oh my god, I'm so glad you remember this.

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Speaker 1: We're like, I know you can't tell that she feels this way in the episode, right shock.

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Speaker 3: She looks so happy, very rare, okay.

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Speaker 2: Very very rare.

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Speaker 1: Sarah has really kind of specific and unique taste in men. She's not easily you know, interested or excited. And I mean I think at this point in the show, in the third season, and in my mind, and I certainly feel this when I rewatched it, we're kind of at our height in a certain way, like all of the writers are clicking together. The shows are really tight. They're really happening, do you know what I mean? And I feel when I watch her performance in like kind of the center section of the third season, because this is when she's cheating with Big, she's with Aiden, then he finds out, she confesses to us, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: Then she's free.

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Speaker 1: So these La episodes, she's free because Aiden breaks up with her at my wedding. Right, there's a part of her Jessica, which is like just so giddy, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's funny, it's so fun to see. I couldn't I couldn't even believe it too, because I was just so star struck by her. But I had met her a million years ago because I had done an Annie commercial when she was Annie. They went to an Annie party in Central Park and she showed me around. She was She's the sweetest person. Adult introduced me to everybody. She's like, this is Jennifer. Did she remember this? No, it's okay, that's okay because it was amazing. You remember, I remember I saw about Annie.

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Speaker 1: I saw that the first production of Annie when she was like the youngest.

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Speaker 3: Or she's Molly, Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: See Jennifer remembers every day guy.

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Speaker 3: Incredibly amazing too. But Sarah Jessica is like theater baby, so talented.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen that video of her where that kid interviewer and interviews her in her dressing room.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it is the cutest. And when we gave her this award, the girl Vernetta Award, they played that is so cute. It just makes my heartbreak open in a million pieces. She was so sweet right and.

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Speaker 2: Her exact same stuff.

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Speaker 3: They're like, they're like, what do you love? She's like, I love New York's so cute. She's so cute, so real.

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Speaker 2: It's so real.

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Speaker 3: She's like her little self, just in like a tiny little body with kind of a She hasn't changed. I would say of all the people I've known, like, she has not changed since she's still the same. She has the little Annie girl totally totally. That's amazing that you did that too.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know this.

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Speaker 3: It's just so funny because I did it on this set, and I think I freaked her out. She was like you and Annie, I was like no, but I was in the commercial, So take me back.

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Speaker 1: How old were you when this happened? Where are we in your like, what's going on in your life?

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Speaker 3: This is oh when I was Annie? You no? Oh, Sex and the City, Sex and the City. Oh good, this is okay, that's your two thousands. It's yes, I think so, Lady's double check it. It's it's interesting because the episode is like the beginning of the two thousand era, but it still feels kind of nineties because it's still Yeah, I think it feels very nice and it's fun, very fun. I was rewatching this episode and I was like, I want to go back. Let's just want to go back. I'm with you. I mean, the whole twenty sixteen thing is not a mistake.

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Speaker 1: You know. What I'm saying is that that is because people want to go back in time.

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Speaker 3: That's understand but not twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: No, for us, that's a random mirror. It's random.

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Speaker 3: Let's go back further, yeah, further further. Definitely. Yeah, But like just that, you guys shot this episode at the standard, which was so of the time, and like all the white couches. We used to go to all those parties with the people they have the people people in the case tank thing. Yes, let's have a little little moment for the Standard. Oh the Standards. Oh my god, so sad, because that really was the end of an era and it was so much fun. I never had a bad time there. They had a couple of gifting suites there. Really, I remember a couple of parties there. I remember the parties.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember the gifting suite Oddered because it was so unique and amazing and so special and we were super smart to film there.

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Speaker 3: So smart, it was so perfect. But just also the whole kind of fun vibe. Yeah, and just that, I mean, I know it's corny, but I'm like, just that you guys were powerful and like in your sexuality and having fun like walking around with Fendy bagads with condoms and them.

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Speaker 2: Totally.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm very you know, very very proud of it, very open.

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Speaker 3: And empowerful and you're all so beautiful. I was just like, you're so beautiful now, but thank you. The four of you were so beautiful and it's just so fun and you know, that was a time when Hugh Hefner was kind of cute.

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Speaker 1: He was that part's weird. But tell me about you and then we'll get to happen a minute. Tell me about life, Tell me about life. What was happening.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was a big time for me really, I think due to the Sex and the City show, I was very influenced. I was really coming into like my sexuality. I had gotten out of a marriage and I was like and I was really like, I was trying to emilate Emily, emulate you guys. That was very blonde, emulate you guys, and like just like having fun and just like my career was kind of taking off that It was a really good time, but it was. It was a fun time, definitely, definitely.

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Speaker 1: So when you got the part like did you did you audition here in La?

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Speaker 3: I auditioned here in La and I auditioned for the Sarah Michelle Keller part. So I thought I was going to get it. Oh, I'm so weird about auditions. I'm like that sucked, or like I totally have this, And then they were like, no, we're going to get Sarah Michelle Geller. She's a bigger name coming on she was buffy at the time. She's here. But then they're like, well, you could play this part, and I was like, well, great, yeah, okay, totally, I'll kind of be that like door person who I've run in has the power like is mean to you, and.

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Speaker 2: Oh listen, I was.

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Speaker 1: It's funny that you are that part because you're so not that part in life. But on the other hand, you so enjoy it. And we've all been there. We've all been there so many times, so many times.

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Speaker 3: So many times, so many times. You step up the red card people I.

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Speaker 1: Know, I know, and you're trying to text your friend or whatever whatever that we got our phones in our hand like that are already in there, and you're like, here, please help me. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So you you really you you gave that.

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Speaker 2: Part you're all, which I loved.

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Speaker 1: And also there's such a sweetness about you, so it's kind of funny that you're this you know, bitch, But yeah, it gives a good it gives a really good counterpoint.

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Speaker 3: And what about my hair? Love it? Oh my god, only I could create that again.

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Speaker 2: It's gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: So many people walk up to me and they're like, why can't you look like that with your hair, Like I was like, because they have the best hair and makeup, you can set up.

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Speaker 1: That's the other thing I thought when I was watching, like all of our hair looks really good. But also the thing that was really funny about that because this third season, I think we had eighteen right, this is in the olden days when you did that many episodes of things, and it was a lot. You know, it's just a lot because you remember our hours, right, Oh my gosh, so bonkers hours.

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Speaker 3: But I remember you guys telling me that you had actually slept when you got there because you had like a day off. Oh good, I remember this. I'm gonna sound super started. I remember everyone was ordering soup from Jerry's. Oh god, we love Jerry's.

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Speaker 1: But also we were very foody, like it was all about where are we ordering it this time?

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Speaker 2: And then when can we order the next order? And what's the plan?

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Speaker 3: Like that was so much.

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Speaker 1: Fun that part in general, like and I just get whatever they want because they have a lot of opinions about food. So I was just like, yes, and obviously Jerry's is great. You're being very Charlotte, very Charlotte, very Charlotte. A lot into the time, very Charlotte. I know people asked me to say what's similar, what's different? I don't know anymore.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: All right, So this week's Hundai hot Take is Vince Vaughn.

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Speaker 3: Is hard.

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Speaker 2: It's hard not to call out.

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Speaker 1: Vince for his performance in this episode because A I know him, and it's really funny to see him in this way. We did a movie called Couple's Retreat, which would have been I want to say two thousand and eight, and I think we filmed this episode of Sex and the City in two thousand. He's just so funny and he looks so great, and he's so loose, and it just really.

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Speaker 2: Took me back.

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Speaker 1: It just really took me back in the best possible way to the two thousands. So Vince Vaughan my Hyundai hot take, celebrating iconic moments, bold moves, and unforgettable style, just like Hyundai. So you're auditioning, you already know Sex and the City, so you're excited, You're totally fine to play this bitchy girl in the carpet as opposed to the Sarah Michelle Michelle Geller part.

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Speaker 2: And then you come you.

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Speaker 1: Remember everything we said which is amazing, thank you, because I only have like, only a few memories stand out. I do have memories of the La episodes because I lived here right right. So for me, for the first script, the first episode that we become Dela, I'm not in.

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Speaker 3: I was like, you got what that? Yeah, put me in it. It's supposed to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I did, And thank god they put me in the next one. I think that was always their plan.

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Speaker 1: But it does make sense because I'm married now and like at the one end of the wedding and they're like and then there were three.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh no, when I watched it back, I didn't even remember. And you're looking at that old picture that you guys always pulled out from the first episode, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not the first episode, but the first season. Yeah, with the lights in the background. Yeah, I like that episode. We we're wearing like normal people clothes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, guys were totally normal. But you were talking to the camera.

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Speaker 1: Yes, God help us out, okay, so tell it, tell us you go to work.

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Speaker 3: We've all slept, which is amazing.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 1: So we started the La trip, Yeah got it, and we're singing, which is wonderful. We're ordering Jerry's soup. Now when you got there, was it daylight?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: And do you remember how long you worked?

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Speaker 3: I didn't work that long. I literally it was so great. I mean the scene. I mean I wanted to be there longer, but the scene just like we did my scene and it was wrapped, and then Sarah Jessica Parker actually said to the whole crew, give Jennifer Eleese Cox a plus. She was so great, and I was just like, I can't believe it. Nice.

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Speaker 1: I do think it was a good It was generally a good time that we did. Some things go wrong in LA but more later.

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Speaker 3: The next episode, right, yes, the car situation or whatever we'll talk about. Then.

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Speaker 2: I guess it was fine.

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Speaker 3: It was fine.

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Speaker 1: It was more just like and also at a certain point, I think the scene in this episode where Charlotte finally arrives, because.

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Speaker 2: They were they were all in scenes together.

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Speaker 1: But then also like she was in scenes with Finn, Cynthia was in scenes with that guy, Kim is in scenes with the handbag confect Fendy fake Fendy bag guy. I was by myself and they because I had my house here, they said I had gone to shoot a group scene. Then they said go home and go to sleep and come back at three am. Oh no, and that's when I, oh, I did yeah, because we were just exhausted.

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Speaker 3: It was just hilarious.

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Speaker 1: I mean even if we suffered a in general exhaustion and if they let you sleep, sleep, you're like, yes, yes, I will sleep back, then I could.

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Speaker 3: I could do that. Were they staying at the Standard, No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: We have to ask them, but I don't think so, because it was too crazy, you know what I meane, Yeah, it wasn't conducive to you know, getting some rest. Generally speaking, we would generally stay at the Peninsula. We called it the penn in the best, meaning we stayed at the pen I don't know if they were staying there then, I can't really remember. I have weird gaps in my la memory because I also think at this point, just in general, the energy of the show, everything was escalating, Like we got nominated for an Emmy.

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 3: But maybe we got nominated.

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Speaker 2: I think we got it might have been the next year.

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Speaker 3: I think it was the next year.

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Speaker 2: The next year for this season, that's what it was.

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Speaker 3: But things were like, you know, it was fast, it was like you felt that everyone loved sex in the city. That's how it felt. That wasn't women, it was men. It was everybody. That's how you felt.

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Speaker 1: Now at this in third seasons, first season, second season, it was more like niche or New York LA or you know whatever. But but it was cool. Okay, so let's let's oh, this is what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 2: Abou hair. Yes, we had the best hair people.

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Speaker 1: But also the thing that's funny, they the producers would always tell me, sorry listeners, if I'm repeating myself that I had to get highlights, there's always a lot of stress because I didn't want highlights.

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Speaker 2: I had Christina, do.

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Speaker 3: You remember my hairdresser gave me highlights and low lights and my hair all fell out. It was like, who needs highlights? And like just stop. I know. The hair of color, it was a lot.

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Speaker 1: I remember Sara Jessica had extremely complex hair color and people were so into it.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's.

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Speaker 1: What affected my producers, but my producers were like, you've got to have highlights because it's too hard to light you because everyone else is so much lighter the light. Yes, I'm sucking the light and they don't have light, you know what I mean, because I'm dark whatever. I know, I know, it's crazy. It's perfect, thank you so much. So no, it's gray with color on it. So it's a whole different situation. But back then it was pristine, it was untouched.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So I go to get highlights at the beginning of this season, but I don't really understand highlights, and I don't understand that you have to go and get them touched up and toned and redone.

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Speaker 3: Every ten days.

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Speaker 1: Right. See, I can't possibly do that, right, I can't possibly do that. So by the time we get to La, my highlights have grown out and they're here. So there's like a stripe.

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Speaker 6: There's like a stripe in my hair and like some scenes, you're like what what And they're completely untoned, right, they're just like blonde and like bad.

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Speaker 1: But my hairstyle still looks beautiful. But like, I think we were too exhausted to notice. Like, it's funny to me that our hair department didn't say, hey, Kristen, you need to get your highlights touched up, But we were just all so delirious.

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Speaker 3: We were just like, oh whatever, exhausted, I.

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Speaker 2: Know, I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: What do you remember about what you wore? Okay, so the big thing I remember is I came there with my carry chain that said Jennifer on it, and they were like, oh no, no, nobody wears the chain but Carrie. That's true. I was so lazy, like the class hadn't worked, but I wanted to wear it, so I tied it up and not Oh my god. So it was a big thing. They were like, we're coming to cut it, like they kept saying, We're coming to cut your necklace. Did they cut it? Yeah? Yeah, but see that said always beautiful, It's beautiful. Can I tell you what's funny.

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Speaker 1: My daughter who's fourteen, her friend gave her a necklace like this that says cry baby, and she wears it and she doesn't understand Number one, why it's a trend.

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Speaker 3: That's my number two. She wears its crying baby.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, why are you wearing this?

00:22:43
Speaker 3: So I can't really talk to fourteen year old.

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Speaker 1: And also the other trend in this particular episode that I'm wondering if you have memories or thoughts of is the waxing situation.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I have a lot, some of it is disgusting, so I don't I don't want to freak you out. But after I saw well I was in that episode, I wanted to get a Brazilian because it was very it was the thing, but you know, of course, like I was, you know, I'm Irish skin. It was like rash central. Oh my god, that awful. And then they were like you have to buy this tent skin like I felt like it was like it was a sha skin. Oh my god. I had forgotten about the ten skin. I think we had it in the trailer.

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Speaker 1: It was everywhere because this was a very rampant like social like cultural situation, right. And the funny thing is I had a job right before COVID where I had to wear a bikini and I was really scared, so I went to get a wax, which I wouldn't normally do, and I didn't ask for a Brazilian.

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Speaker 2: And they were like twenty two year.

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Speaker 3: Olds right working at this place, was it, Alicia? Thank god?

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Speaker 1: No they know, but they were young and mean, oh no, and they were like bend your leg and.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I know, oh I am aware, like are you aware? But they don't even know?

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Speaker 1: Like that was amazing to me, the youngsters don't even know where this stuff came from, and interesting they need.

00:24:12
Speaker 3: To be taught. Well, I think a lot of.

00:24:17
Speaker 5: Obviously I agree, Obviously I agree, but also like this is why I'm happy that Netflix licensed our show, right and just like let them watch and see, like, oh, now I see why I'm wearing a nameplate gold necklace.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but the thing is, and this is what I love about the show and why I am happy to talk about it here. I love to reminisce, but also I love the parts of the show that really hold their weight all this time later, and that is the empowerment of sexuality.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I mean you guys influenced women and actually I feel like you allowed me to have fun and be happy with my I mean really profound. It's like yeah, and it's for everyone. And for years after Sex and the City, I had a bunch of girlfriends who are like, well, I can't afford therapy, but I'm watching Sex in the City, you know, And it's true. It's like everyone's therapy. It makes it makes people feel good, especially women, And.

00:25:18
Speaker 2: I think it makes you feel connected.

00:25:20
Speaker 1: I think it makes you feel not alone that you can see other people going through things that aren't, you know, so easy or so great, even though we're always dressed well when we went through them, but you don't have saying they're still relatable.

00:25:30
Speaker 2: I love that part of it.

00:25:31
Speaker 3: All, and especially Charlotte, like a lot of your your guys too that you yeah, like I have to say I dealt with some of that and you're like, oh my god, thank you totally. Well that's true.

00:25:42
Speaker 1: That's true because when you're in it, you do feel like you're alone, and it's nice to see, like, no everybody deals with weirdness, all right, It's so true.

00:25:52
Speaker 2: So okay, so take us backwork and the trailer.

00:25:54
Speaker 1: We're sitting to this vice girls, we're happy, We're ordering Jerry's soup.

00:25:58
Speaker 2: Yes, and then what then we go out there. You see Michael, who you know and really.

00:26:03
Speaker 3: Helped so sweet. But I mean, but you guys were so nice to me right away, Like as soon as I saw all of you, you, Kim was so sweet. You were all so sweet to me. It made me feel so good. But then you know, it was just like most of the day I was standing around with Finn Spumber.

00:26:22
Speaker 2: Any wait, was.

00:26:23
Speaker 3: Jon Favreau there that day?

00:26:24
Speaker 1: Because at one point John came. No, okay, so I think it was the day that they go to shoot at that house. Oh, John came. And the reason I know this is because I think Sarah and I had our blackberries, the beginning blackberries, you know, the first crack version, Yeah, crackberries.

00:26:39
Speaker 2: But she kept hers on her waistband.

00:26:41
Speaker 1: Okay, there are pictures of her with her on her waistband, which is adorable.

00:26:45
Speaker 2: And they only made two sounds.

00:26:46
Speaker 1: It was either like dou lulu or doulu one or the other, so you either had it on the upper or on the down.

00:26:54
Speaker 2: And all day, like if we were on the trailer, we'd turn it on. Ours would just be going like dulut.

00:26:59
Speaker 1: And sometimes on the set we would just be texting each other across the across the room or whatever.

00:27:04
Speaker 2: It was really fun.

00:27:05
Speaker 1: So she texted me one day that Jon Favreau had come because they'd done Swingers. Obviously they were like still in their kind of tight where a unit were writing and creating things. He'd come to write like ad libs or whatever, which we didn't really do right like Michael had kept it you know, pretty tight, do you know what I mean?

00:27:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, that I wouldn't put that past Michael. I know John was there.

00:27:30
Speaker 1: It was not a secret, right, So he was there, and I think they included Michael, and I think Darren was there.

00:27:36
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

00:27:37
Speaker 2: I think Darren was.

00:27:38
Speaker 3: I think Darren was there. He's so nice.

00:27:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he was so excited because he also lived here, you know what I mean. So for us, we were really right.

00:27:46
Speaker 1: So John came and they rewrote things, and I remember Sarah texting me like, beros here and they're rewriting, and I was like what And it's you can kind of tell in Vincent's dialogue that it's it's I think that he worked on it, like it's very Vince.

00:28:02
Speaker 3: It's very Vince.

00:28:03
Speaker 2: It's very them, isn't it, which I love.

00:28:06
Speaker 3: I love it.

00:28:07
Speaker 2: I love it that Michael was cool with it, that.

00:28:09
Speaker 3: It worked out. You know, it works, it works for his character. That was Vince's mood. He was so nice, but like I was taken aback because he sounded just like his character and swingers. I was like, hey, he's like. I was like, you know this person. He's like yeah, he's a really bad hang and I was like okay, wow. And then of course like I volunteered at that time because I was just like, he's very good looking. I was like, I'm in Maxim. Just out of the blue, Maxim. I was in Maxim at that time, and I had for a necklace on it would come firal circle.

00:28:50
Speaker 4: You were in Maximum at that time. That was like cool, cool, that cool, gone, babe, it's gone. Yeah, it was, it was it had yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:03
Speaker 1: But I remember it was very much a thing that as a young actress, you wanted that, you wanted that. I personally didn't want it because once we got sex in the city, I.

00:29:13
Speaker 2: Was like, I don't want any of that.

00:29:14
Speaker 3: You're so spid.

00:29:15
Speaker 2: I mean, there are different people who felt differently about it.

00:29:18
Speaker 1: And my my half story if we want to go there is I did get a Playboy offer after this experience what I did, yes, And I was like, oh no.

00:29:28
Speaker 2: I laughed really hard. I was like, I couldn't possibly, but it is.

00:29:31
Speaker 3: A high compliment.

00:29:32
Speaker 1: It was a high compliment. But my mother really would never have spoken to me. And then I did say that publicly, and I remember later feeling bad about it because it was something culturally where like there was like this broady that time, but then later on we found out oh no, no, no, it wasn't all so great.

00:29:50
Speaker 3: It was creepy, right, right, but he seems like a doora bone. I'm very nice with Samantha. He's like he's like, stayed on my lap, and then he's like, no, stay in the and I'm like, no, I don't think that would have happened later on. He would have been like sit on my lap. Listen.

00:30:04
Speaker 2: He was very frail. You wouldn't want to sit on him.

00:30:06
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, he was very frail. You would feel like you might hurt him. But he was very nice.

00:30:12
Speaker 3: But when we do go to the mansion, I mean really really weird. Was it gross? Like the grotto?

00:30:20
Speaker 2: It was weird. I didn't go in the water, so I felt, Okay, I'm so glad you didn't go in the water.

00:30:27
Speaker 3: We were very we were like come, but it was very much like kind of a.

00:30:34
Speaker 1: Like a disconnect and that you know, like I feel like at this moment in time, culturally they were very much kind of mainstream.

00:30:43
Speaker 3: Yes, remember, yeah, and people were in mainstream, right.

00:30:46
Speaker 1: People were always going up there to the pajama parties and stuff, and it was strange, right, So we're there, and I think it was a very big deal for us to get to film there. But yet at the same time, you're just like ew ew, yeah, I'm.

00:31:10
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm going to the last thing. But like when all the women are like naked and the and she's just like, we need to.

00:31:17
Speaker 2: Go home, right when she's like, we took a wrong turn.

00:31:20
Speaker 3: I know, I'm very profound, and it's very like interesting, it's very New York La, like the boundaries.

00:31:28
Speaker 1: And kind of the subtext of the we took a wrong turn. But I think we also I feel I don't know the details, and I should probably ask Michael. I wonder if you would remember I don't know if there was any kind of oversight in terms of what we wrote. Do you know what I'm saying right like that we not say anything negative, you know, I wonder because we kind of imply that there's a darkness without really going into it. But I also don't know if that was because culturally it felt like it was an important moment to embrace all the said tuality all like, if these women want to do that, we're.

00:32:03
Speaker 2: Not going to judge them.

00:32:04
Speaker 3: No, no, right, but the judgement. But yeah, I mean it was it was oh, but not because of the women.

00:32:11
Speaker 2: It was the men.

00:32:13
Speaker 1: The men.

00:32:14
Speaker 3: When you see Charlotte there.

00:32:15
Speaker 2: Talking to that dude, okay, oh my god. Absolutely no memory. I was like, wait, what what's happening?

00:32:19
Speaker 1: Like sometimes when I'm rewatching, I'm like, okay, wait, I'm I don't remember doing that.

00:32:25
Speaker 3: There were guys like that in l A at the time that we're offering. Someone offered to buy me boobs. I was like, what that real? With someone I was dating. It's just like, you're perfect, except your tits are small. You want some big boobs. And I was just like, I was like, oh, okay, fine.

00:32:47
Speaker 6: My number.

00:32:47
Speaker 3: And I love your character. How you react, it's so great. I mean, I'm glad.

00:32:51
Speaker 1: I wish it would have been bigger. This is how I feel when I look back on Charlotte in general. I have really big reactions sometimes, and this had a lot to do with you know, whoever was writing or directing, obviously, Sometimes I have really big reactions where I'm like, wow, why was that reaction so big? And then sometimes like in this scene, I'm like that should have been a bigger reaction, like goss, buddy, you know what I mean.

00:33:09
Speaker 3: Whatever, Charlotte drinks. That's true, that's what you were feeling. I was feeling good. No, it's so good to get away from my marriage problems or whatever.

00:33:17
Speaker 2: And at one point I'm like, it's.

00:33:18
Speaker 3: So nice to be with the man who talks and also us this to me. Oh, you're so smart.

00:33:22
Speaker 1: I literally said that the colors in hog Me are beautiful. That's like, not really very smart, you know what I'm saying.

00:33:29
Speaker 3: I think it's smart. I don't think it's really Charlotte. The colors in hog Me are beautiful. Yeah, we could have done better.

00:33:40
Speaker 1: But okay, all right, we just talking about art at the Playboy Mansion, right, Oh my god, I know, but I don't remember that, dude.

00:33:47
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, whoever you are, I do. I have no memory of that scene taking place.

00:33:51
Speaker 3: I think that's good.

00:33:52
Speaker 1: I think I was in a blackout just in general. We're at the Playboy Mansion. I cannot take it all in. I'm just must blackout. Been overload, Like.

00:34:00
Speaker 3: I think it was overload.

00:34:00
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I do remember.

00:34:02
Speaker 1: I remember when we had to wear those those outfits, and I think, like, we're going to the party, right, and so Sarah's got that sparkly kind of muma on over. I think, amazing. I think, right, why the bikini? I don't know, it's nighttime, right, Like did we think we were going to get in the water. I don't know what was going on there, right, But I do remember there being a lot of conversation about what I was going to wear with Pat Pat, like that's my own song, I think from BALI.

00:34:31
Speaker 3: Actually, it's so cute on you and you have like a bikini that I think it's cherries.

00:34:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that Shoshana, so cute.

00:34:40
Speaker 3: Thank you. You were hot to death too. But I thought I was fat.

00:34:44
Speaker 2: I thought it was so so fat.

00:34:46
Speaker 3: I thought I was so so.

00:34:47
Speaker 2: Fat, so sad, Thank you so much.

00:34:49
Speaker 1: But I remember when we had to walk all four of us that kind of like around a bend when we're walking in and we're walking and talking about we have to walk and talk facing forward, which is always you know, semi challenge. I remember that day, and I remember that day I think partly because of the of the outfit drama or whatever, and feeling like naked, like stomach hang out.

00:35:11
Speaker 3: No stomach, you're sweet whatever.

00:35:13
Speaker 1: At the time, I felt I felt whatever it is, self conscious, and then I have other memories about behind the scenes at the mansion, but I remember that walk and talk, but I.

00:35:23
Speaker 2: Don't remember a lot else.

00:35:25
Speaker 3: It's really weird, like.

00:35:26
Speaker 1: I didn't remember any of the storyline of that though I do walk into that scene with HEF and Kim, and I do remember a scene with Heavn Kim.

00:35:37
Speaker 2: I guess that was it. I thought we were somewhere.

00:35:40
Speaker 1: Else, though, who knows, maybe we were in a holding area that was somewhere else. I remember having a conversation, a brief conversation with him or he was like your grandpa or whatever, like it was strange, you know, like very sweet, very kind of you know, like regular are seeming, if that's possible to say, you.

00:36:03
Speaker 2: Know, where he was just like you girls are doing great.

00:36:05
Speaker 3: We were like, thanks, you're sweet. It's very surreal that you're saying thank you so much.

00:36:12
Speaker 1: And we were just trying to be nice, you know, trying to be nice and polite. Okay, so let's let's rewatch a little bit. Okay, good, okay. No, let me ask you separately though, because I'd love to hear this. I don't want to forget after the episode aired, what was it like for you.

00:36:27
Speaker 3: Everywhere I went, people were saying my lines to me. I mean, that's something about sex and the city. The lines are so classic, that's cute, that's really cute. That's really cute, and you liked it, you enjoy liked it. And door people used to say, I do your thing all the time. Can you please step off the red carpet?

00:36:46
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's really really exciting now listen. I hadn't remember this. John David Coles was directing. Do you remember him. Yeah, he was a very very regular white guy. You know what I'm saying, Like there's he was.

00:37:00
Speaker 2: He's very nice.

00:37:01
Speaker 3: He's very nice.

00:37:02
Speaker 1: He had previously directed the scene where I take a drug and I'm dancing through what I thought was a key hole, but it wasn't, actually, I learned from hilarious.

00:37:15
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm dancing through this keye.

00:37:21
Speaker 2: So anyway, he was so easy, That's what I remember about him.

00:37:25
Speaker 3: And I feel like when you watch the episodes, you can tell that we feel pretty relaxed, very relaxed.

00:37:31
Speaker 1: He was.

00:37:32
Speaker 3: Everyone was nice. I'm so sorry. I know we've been on those sets where you feel a little just out of it because it's a little difficult or stressful. It was just it felt like a party. Yes, yeah, amazing.

00:37:47
Speaker 2: It feels like that when you're watching it.

00:37:49
Speaker 1: And because I can't remember it other than the Playboy Mansion, which was just bizarro, right.

00:37:54
Speaker 2: Like, it might have felt like a party to some of the people.

00:37:56
Speaker 3: Though, Oh yeah, I.

00:37:56
Speaker 2: Don't know, you know what I mean, right Yeah.

00:38:00
Speaker 3: Also, I'm happy to hear that Vince was in a good mood. He was so much fun. He was so nice yay, and it was kind of flirty, flirty with all of us, Like I felt like he was like he was like, I'm going to get on the set and flirt with everybody, so they like me.

00:38:13
Speaker 1: Wow, Vince double v as I call him. I hope you're listening. I don't think you are, but maybe you're wife.

00:38:21
Speaker 3: You should. She tells you we have good memories, which is nice.

00:38:27
Speaker 2: You don't else.

00:38:28
Speaker 3: I totally forgot that Carrie Fisher is in this.

00:38:30
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

00:38:33
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so amazing to see her.

00:38:35
Speaker 3: But it's also just kind of oh, it makes you so sad. She looks beautiful, like I feel like she's never but you know, that's the hair and makeup on that show. They made you look good.

00:38:45
Speaker 1: But also I just think she was at a good place in life, which I think is so great that we call that in her hand. She's so real, Jody, mean, like she's so real and it's so like, I mean, we should go through the details or.

00:38:58
Speaker 2: Whatever, but this storyline is so funny.

00:39:00
Speaker 1: It's so funny, and I had vaguely remembered it, but I hadn't remembered that it was Carrie Fisher, which I think it was Kerry Fisher, because Carrie, I believe was Kevin Huvane's client, and that's Sir Gresca's client.

00:39:10
Speaker 2: Since he was answering the phones at CIA.

00:39:12
Speaker 1: Like we'd love Kevin Huvane so much and he would set things up, you know sometimes if we needed you know, I'm sure he probably helped us get Vince, you know what I mean, Like he was there for us.

00:39:21
Speaker 3: But you know, you were at a point where everybody wanted to be on the show.

00:39:25
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, and no, I don't know.

00:39:27
Speaker 1: I mean there were times where I remember like we were like, let's get George Clooney and we could never get Clooney. And I know him, but I mean he was very busy, you know what he was saying let me say that he was very busy, he was a fan of the show, but.

00:39:38
Speaker 2: Would we would try and they would always not for this part.

00:39:42
Speaker 1: I think with this part, I think we wanted Vince, and I think we got Vince, but I think there were other guys because obviously we had this kind of like pipeline of guys.

00:39:50
Speaker 3: You know, there was a lot of guys, and.

00:39:52
Speaker 2: There would be times where they loved.

00:39:53
Speaker 3: That they were the meat on the show, I know, like as opposed to every other show where the female is the meat.

00:39:59
Speaker 2: Like it's it's true, it's true.

00:40:01
Speaker 1: But sometimes when I want those guys to come on the podcast, they don't want to come on the podcast. And I think it's because they had to do the difficult things. Oh yeah, I'm not really sure, and I'm sure they're all so busy, but you know what I mean, Like it's an awkward part for them to be in sometimes like a different but they loved it.

00:40:17
Speaker 2: I mean I think they loved it. I don't know if all of them loved it.

00:40:20
Speaker 1: And I also think that sometimes after the fact, I mean not so much here because Vince was already already super famous and doing great, but sometimes like for instance, Bobby kinabally with funky spunk like that's it. It's a very specific, very known.

00:40:33
Speaker 3: They must have been saying that to him all the time exactly. We have to get over that. Yeah, I love Bobby kind of so do.

00:40:40
Speaker 1: I love him so much, love them so much to dye to have him on the pod hasn't happened yet.

00:40:44
Speaker 2: Maybe it will.

00:40:45
Speaker 3: I think it will.

00:40:45
Speaker 2: I hope it will. Okay, so wait, let's go through these.

00:40:49
Speaker 1: It's funny too, because like, on the one hand, I had this weird blank in my mind about like, I know, we go to La, but I can't remember what all happens.

00:40:56
Speaker 3: So much happens, So much happens in this episode. There's so much going on.

00:41:01
Speaker 2: It's true.

00:41:02
Speaker 1: And I loved Miranda's guy that I also had absolutely no memory of who is it?

00:41:07
Speaker 3: Who is it?

00:41:08
Speaker 2: What is that guy's name?

00:41:09
Speaker 1: Is it?

00:41:10
Speaker 3: He's so cute. He has been in a million things. Sam Cedar, I think Sannah Sam Cedar as.

00:41:18
Speaker 1: Lous Lou Letterman, Lou Letterman, Lu Lettermanlu.

00:41:21
Speaker 3: And he has an eating disorder.

00:41:23
Speaker 2: Well, this is what's great.

00:41:24
Speaker 3: Okay.

00:41:27
Speaker 1: So here we are twenty five years later, or twenty eight years later, or whatever it is, right, And I felt like all the la things are still totally true. Yes, maybe not the boobs, you know what I mean, boobs come and go in terms of that's right. Younger people are not so much for the fake boobs.

00:41:47
Speaker 3: Right, thank god.

00:41:48
Speaker 2: But other things are still very true right.

00:41:50
Speaker 1: I dated a guy, an actor in Los Angeles who didn't chew it and then spin it out, but he just wouldn't eat right.

00:41:58
Speaker 2: So he'd say like, let's go out to So we'd go out to.

00:42:01
Speaker 1: Dinner to like an Italian restaurant River and I'd be so excited to order whatever pasta right.

00:42:05
Speaker 2: And I say like, what are you gonna order?

00:42:06
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, you know, maybe I'll get some steamed vegetables. And I'm like, oh no, what do you mean. He's like, well, you know, I'm you know, I'm eating clean. I'd be like, oh okay.

00:42:18
Speaker 3: And then like when my food would come, he would say can I smell it?

00:42:22
Speaker 2: And I'd say like sure. So he'd take my plate and he'd be like oh no. He'd hold it up to his to his face and you know, like like waft the scent.

00:42:33
Speaker 1: Of the food and take a deep breath and they'd be like, ah, I like it, that's good enough, and'd be like, yep, yep, I could smell it.

00:42:43
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, yeah he had a great body. Oh yeah, yeah, he had a great body.

00:42:50
Speaker 2: But you know it was not fun for me.

00:42:53
Speaker 3: No, no, that's stressful.

00:42:56
Speaker 2: It was after a while it was.

00:42:58
Speaker 3: Like, why are we going out if you're not going to eat?

00:43:02
Speaker 2: He's like, well, I like to be out in the world, like for two hours exactly.

00:43:10
Speaker 1: No. He would eat some kind of like lemon or you know what I'm saying. There were certain things that he would eat. But when I watched this part, I was like, oh my god, it's like that guy. I'm not going to name him. He's an actor who is still working, let me say, and still alive.

00:43:24
Speaker 3: Still glad for sure.

00:43:26
Speaker 1: I mean it was he's healthy, you know what I mean. I mean he eats something, he's vegetables, I think. I mean, I don't know people, but like, wow, I had flashbacks when I was watching this episode, and like, they film an earth Cafe.

00:43:40
Speaker 3: Did you did you recognize earth Cafe? The big place? Yeah, there's still one in Santa Monica. Yeah, still in Earth Cafe? Did they close the Melrose I think they did. Wow, I could be wrong, but I know there's like a long line of hungry people. I know Earth Cafe and they've got a good pumpkin pie. That's what I know about this cafe. Yeah yeah, okay, so here we are. Wait here, We're gonna start with Kerry because that's the page I have up.

00:44:05
Speaker 2: So I love that they go to this film.

00:44:09
Speaker 3: Well we forgot the wax comes before the film.

00:44:11
Speaker 1: It's pretty funny Sarah's commitment to Carrie talking about the wax too, where she's like, I was robbed?

00:44:17
Speaker 3: Is that what she says? Like I was butchered.

00:44:20
Speaker 2: I was like something like she's like so out.

00:44:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's pretty funny. And it's the scenes where like they move your legs around. I mean, all women, I think have now been through this, but at the time it was a big thing. And I also remember the reason we knew it was a big thing because at some point, either Harper's Bazar or Vogue did this whole thing with Gwyneth Paltrow about waxing.

00:44:42
Speaker 3: She's the first do you remember this stuff stuff?

00:44:45
Speaker 1: But do you remember she said it literally changed her sex life getting this wax, And we were like what.

00:44:52
Speaker 3: I know.

00:44:53
Speaker 2: It's weird, right, it's weird.

00:44:55
Speaker 3: It's really weird. I love Miranda's line. She's like, she's like, la, man, are so lazy. I know, don't want to search for anything.

00:45:04
Speaker 1: I know, I know.

00:45:05
Speaker 2: It is really funny.

00:45:05
Speaker 1: It's really funny seeing it's before I get there, but it's really funny.

00:45:09
Speaker 2: But then when I get there, they're like, you should go do this.

00:45:11
Speaker 3: Why do they mean? I thought that was really easy?

00:45:18
Speaker 1: I know, after Carrie's had this traumatic experience, they're like, you should go do it.

00:45:22
Speaker 2: And I do it, but then I don't say.

00:45:24
Speaker 3: Much about it, which is also interesting.

00:45:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, why don't I say much?

00:45:28
Speaker 6: Money?

00:45:28
Speaker 3: We're okay with it, or maybe that park got cut, but I do.

00:45:31
Speaker 1: Look. Also, I was surprised when Carrie is getting her waxing and she's like, oh, like really quiet.

00:45:37
Speaker 3: And then luckily when I go, I'm like, oh, you know what I mean?

00:45:40
Speaker 1: Actually, yes, for anyone who hasn't gotten waxed to be prepared, I'm sure you all have. But yeah, it's quite quite something, quite quite something that is not necessarily fun. You guys, this is so much fun that we're going to have to have a part two. So join US later in the week on Are You a Charlotte

00:46:00
Speaker 3: Three