Nov. 13, 2026
BREAKING: FAA Grounds ALL Flights in the U.S. for "Reasons of Safety"
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RSS Feed The Federal Aviation Administration has issued a nationwide ground stop for all U.S. airports following a “communication issue.” While authorities have said they do not believe this issue is the result of a cyber attack, DHS Secretary Markwayne Mullin said he is not ruling anything out. Airport staff are telling passengers to head home, or to find housing, releasing luggage from planes as there is no information as to when flights may resume. This is only the third time in history the FAA has issued a nationwide ground stop.
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00:00:05
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. Good Lord, it is Friday the 13th, ain't it? So maybe we shouldn't be surprised, but we are hopping back on here on this Friday for a breaking news story that is going to impact you or anybody in your orbit that has to fly anytime soon. A nationwide ground stop. Welcome to this breaking news episode of Amy and TJ Robes. We hear this and I think our memories go to one thing in particular. Robes, when you hear nationwide ground stop, those of us of a certain age can remember the last time We felt the impact of such a thing.
00:00:46
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. You go straight back to 9-11. There's just no question. That was the last time. In fact, I got stranded in New Mexico. My dad was stranded in Brazil. And yes, I remember just this weird feeling of we take for granted our ability just to run to the airport, hop on a plane and get where we need to go. And all of a sudden, when that's taken away... Your whole world is thrown into chaos, and that's what's happening right now.
00:01:15
Speaker 1: In this moment, folks, no plane in the United States is being allowed to take off. As of this recording, we are hopping on just, what, a little over an hour after this alert was issued, and now word is starting to trickle out. But, Robes, as we speak, there is not a plane in the U.S. that is being allowed to take off, not a commercial flight. And, Robes, we don't know when that might change, and we don't know exactly why. This has happened, but this alert robes that the FAA first sent out on the National Ground Stop, this language certainly will raise your eyebrows just a bit.
00:01:52
Speaker 2: Yes, it says, due to extraordinary circumstances and for reasons of safety, attention all aircraft operators. By order of the Federal Aviation Command Center, all airports are ground stopped. all departing traffic should remain ground-stopped until further notice. Inbound international flights will be managed on a case-by-case basis.
00:02:19
Speaker 1: Robes.
00:02:20
Speaker 2: Whoa.
00:02:20
Speaker 1: This is where we are. This is where we sit on a Friday. On a Friday in the U.S., planes cannot take off, and we don't know when this might be resolved. Robes, you have to ask the question. And maybe it's a priority question to ask. Is this connected to all of this Microsoft whatnot over the past couple of days? Because there's a suggestion that this is not a cyber attack. This is some type of technical issue we are having, but this is not something that was done by somebody with ill intent.
00:02:57
Speaker 2: That is interesting that they're able to say that so resolutely, so quickly.
00:03:04
Speaker 3: I guess that's a good sign.
00:03:06
Speaker 2: Sean Duffy actually got a little specific with what he put out on X. He said the FAA news issued a nationwide ground stop for all U.S. airports following a communication issue impacting all air route traffic control centers. FAA technicians are investigating the issue. We will provide immediate updates as we have them. So the transportation secretary is telling us More specifically, that this is a communication issue. So, yes, you have to think this Microsoft issue that's affected so many folks over the last 24 hours.
00:03:43
Speaker 3: We even joked our morning run that we put up each morning.
00:03:46
Speaker 2: We weren't sure if anyone was even going to hear it or listen to it because we had a.
00:03:51
Speaker 3: Technical issue with our server.
00:03:54
Speaker 2: Where we were literally seeing zero downloads, which was hilarious for like six hours. Obviously we knew people were listening, but we weren't getting downloads. And so how are all of these things just coincidentally uniquely happening? And it just seems.
00:04:11
Speaker 1: And now this.
00:04:12
Speaker 3: This just seems way too coincidental.
00:04:15
Speaker 1: And now this. So this is where we are, folks. There are. What, 1,000 planes, I believe they said, by whatever estimate, that are currently in the air. They are all... The priority right now is getting all of them on the ground. We don't know what this issue is, but the priority right now is to get all of those planes on the ground. There is not a conversation being had. Nobody's trying to make sure people get rebooked. Because nobody knows, Robes, when you're going to be allowed to fly again. This is how new and fresh and chaotic now this has become. Cause the country. Yes. I mean, I'm sorry my mind goes here, but think about college football weekend. Think about all that's happening right now and folks travel and getting back home.
00:05:03
Speaker 3: People were on work trips. People are going on weekend trips. There are weddings. There are football games. There are funerals.
00:05:11
Speaker 2: There are places people have to be and they have an expectation. There are just commuters who go back and forth from one location to the next to work and go back home and see their loved ones.
00:05:21
Speaker 3: Yes, this is massively disruptive.
00:05:24
Speaker 2: And the only other time beyond 9-11 that this has happened in recent memory is 2023. You mentioned that right off the bat. That ground stop only lasted, and I say only, I mean, it was a big deal, but it lasted for 90 minutes. We're well beyond that at this point as of this recording. I cannot imagine how many days it is going to take based on how many hours this shutdown continues or this ground stop continues before things get back to normal.
00:05:55
Speaker 1: And here's the problem, of course, Robes. Getting back to normal, you have to have some target. You have to have... Everybody that's going to a counter right now at every airport in the country is trying to get rebooked. On to what?
00:06:12
Speaker 3: Where? When?
00:06:13
Speaker 1: That's the issue. We don't know. I can put you on something next week. put you on some well how are you going to rebook somebody for tomorrow morning or they have no idea when this is going to be done now we've seen some reporting robes it was interesting and i guess it would make sense uh several networks have you know just randomly it's a friday people are traveling so they have some of their people in airports they were reporting on this there's not chaos in the airports because word hadn't trickled it's so new nobody even knows the severity of what's.
00:06:45
Speaker 2: There were, we have been watching reporters who have been on planes.
00:06:49
Speaker 3: They were on the tarmac.
00:06:50
Speaker 2: They were about to take off and they described the announcement the pilot had to give folks saying, hey, we've just been told there is a nationwide ground stop and they couldn't give any of the passengers any information. We're looking at several of the different news outlets who have reporters around airports. New York Times has an employee inside O'Hare in Chicago, and they say that a United Airlines employee is just telling anyone who's trying to depart, anyone who's trying.
00:07:24
Speaker 3: To leave, who live in the area. just go back to your house. You ain't getting out today.
00:07:29
Speaker 2: And they're also telling travelers, um, on planes that were on the runway to depart your planes gone. It's been removed. You should go home. Like they're actually being told to go back. We don't know when you're leaving.
00:07:42
Speaker 1: This is a mess. So, um, some new reporting now here from several outlets. And I think we heard this, um, from one of the cable networks as well, that they are targeting perhaps that this could end by 11 o'clock tonight. It's scheduled to go until 11. How they know that at this point and that they'll have it cleared up. But Robes, consider that. This went into effect just before 4 o'clock. Right. Robes, you're talking about seven hours of nobody flying in this country.
00:08:17
Speaker 3: That's hard to imagine how you recover from that.
00:08:20
Speaker 1: And this is not just one region having issues because of weather. We see that sometimes at particular airports. Hell, some airports up here, LaGuardia, aren't they notorious for ground stops and whatnot?
00:08:33
Speaker 3: Yes, because they only have a couple runways.
00:08:37
Speaker 1: This is not one region being impacted. How is this system going to catch back up and get back online? This is going to be a rough weekend for travelers.
00:08:44
Speaker 2: Yes. You know how when we have rough weather or some issues on, or at least in multiple airports, we'll go on to a website called FlightAware. If you go up on that website now, it just shows red all over the entire map right now. There are 8,000 flights delayed, hundreds of cancellations, but they're probably not even up to speed.
00:09:07
Speaker 3: If no one's leaving, obviously, I'm sure... What do you do if you're an airline executive?
00:09:11
Speaker 2: If you're making decisions on a case by case basis, do you just try to keep, if you've got a plane there and you've got passengers there, you just say, we may be delayed until midnight. Can you hold tight? I mean, you just, you try to just delay the plane and not cancel the plane and know, Oh, I mean, I cannot imagine the headache this would cause in terms of rescheduling and just who makes those decisions.
00:09:36
Speaker 1: I mean, the, the, it's, The FAA has given an order. There are no choices in the matter. These airlines have to do what they are now being told. Now, they're explaining this issue having to do with some kind of a communications issue. You heard some experts on television trying to explain it. It has to do with the communication centers that handle flights that are at cruising altitude essentially it's not the air traffic controllers that are in control of getting people taking off and landing that i hear that right you're the same okay so what does that mean how do you know when that's back up you have to make sure if there's a communications issue where is this in front of me again they're alert saying for reasons of safety, due to extraordinary circumstances and reasons of safety, I don't want to see that if I am at 30,000 feet right now.
00:10:31
Speaker 3: No, you do not want to see that.
00:10:32
Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
00:10:33
Speaker 3: That is so beyond scary.
00:10:34
Speaker 2: And look, there are reports right now of people who are stuck on the tarmac because they can't even get back to the gate because there's so much congestion and confusion. Confusion that planes are trying, they're jockeying, they're competing against one another to get into the gate space. So now there are flights that have landed that have literally no gate to pull into. And so they're talking about folks on these flights where people are trying to, you know, the flight attendants are trying to hand out snacks. They don't know how long they're going to be on this tarmac. They've got babies crying and people are saying it's Friday the 13th.
00:11:11
Speaker 3: Can you imagine?
00:11:13
Speaker 1: Woo. Robes. What is going on? I feel like we're living in chaotic times. Like every day you wake up and wait for the thing that's rare, that hasn't happened but twice in history before. Society, we feel like we're in chaos too often. And what is this telling us now? I don't know. Is there anybody to blame for this? This isn't how systems are supposed to work.
00:11:45
Speaker 2: No, and this is part of the concerns that so many people have voiced about computers and AI when we rely too heavily on technology. But there's no way to actually manage and keep folks safe if you don't rely, obviously, on technology. But this is what happens when computers fail us, when technology fails us, when systems fail.
00:12:08
Speaker 3: Just break down.
00:12:10
Speaker 2: We don't have a way, or at least a quick remedy at this point, to find a new path.
00:12:17
Speaker 1: But to think of just how disruptive this is to everybody's life. Robes, in back-to-back days now, Microsoft FAA.
00:12:27
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:12:28
Speaker 3: I mean, that is.
00:12:30
Speaker 3: That seems to be beyond coincidental.
00:12:32
Speaker 2: And we're also hearing from Homeland Security Director Mark Wayne Mullen, who's talking right now about what could possibly.
00:12:40
Speaker 3: Be going on.
00:12:44
Speaker 1: Roams, they've been up until this point telling us, have they not? No cyber attack. We don't think this is anything other than a communications issue.
00:12:56
Speaker 2: Well.
00:12:57
Speaker 1: The Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security at this moment is giving comments live, and he is not so quick to be aboard the theory that this is just a communications issue.
00:13:22
Speaker 3: Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ.
00:13:25
Speaker 2: We are following the breaking news right now that there is a ground stop. There are no flights taking off from any United States airport at this hour of this recording. It's been going on for well over an hour now. And this is truly an unprecedented situation. We've only had this happen, I think most folks listening will remember 9-11. There was about a 90-minute window of time this happened in 2023. That was also some sort of communications issue. But right now, it's very vague. It's unclear right now what's going on. And Mark Wayne Mullen, the DHS secretary, is speaking saying he isn't ruling anything out.
00:14:09
Speaker 1: Um... I guess they have to say that, and I guess you should think that way. A telecommunications issue is what we have been told from the beginning of this. But to have him come out and say, well, he said, we think that's what it is. And maybe that's right, but Robes, this is, do we have, is there a security threat? Are we under that kind of threat? I mean, you still have to remember.
00:14:35
Speaker 3: Aren't we always under threat? Shouldn't we always consider that?
00:14:38
Speaker 1: But you throw, what? Robes, we're talking about lately Chinese spies and Iran with the war. Robes, it just feels like we're in scary and dangerous times. And after the Microsoft thing, just yesterday happened.
00:14:58
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:14:58
Speaker 1: That turned the world upside down. One guy having an affair with the wrong woman turns the world economy upside down. and a computer glitch or telecommunications issue is canceling people's plans for the weekend. Well, we just seem like chaos.
00:15:17
Speaker 2: It is chaos, and we just are getting word now. Again, a lot of these news outlets have reporters in various airports around the country. The New York Times reporting that in the Asheville airport just moments ago over the intercom, they told passengers that there will be no updates.
00:15:37
Speaker 3: Until midnight tonight.
00:15:39
Speaker 2: So I don't know, you heard 11 p.m., we heard midnight, but it sounds like they're making it clear nobody's going anywhere for the rest of this evening, and that's why we're hearing other passengers being told at other airports, hey, if you live nearby, you should probably just go home.
00:15:57
Speaker 1: That's it, they're not going anywhere tonight, right? Most airports, the latest flight you can get out of them domestically is early in the evening for the most part unless you're flying international.
00:16:06
Speaker 2: Somewhere correct yeah in asheville the airport actually released everyone's bags like they took everyone's bags off the planes think about if you had checked your bags in they're like here's your bag back go home even though your flight is just listed as delayed right now and i think that's part of the confusion people are looking on their phones they're looking up at the screens they're like well it's just delayed maybe we'll be able to make the flight and the staff at the airports are telling folks you ain't going anywhere.
00:16:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at these JFK. Every single flight is delayed, delayed, delayed, delayed. And they keep moving them and nothing's.
00:16:43
Speaker 3: Okay, there's something else that just came up.
00:16:46
Speaker 2: A spokesperson for the Transportation Department can't say whether or not there apparently is a parallel radar outage on weather.gov. And they're wondering if now you've got a full outage on another government site, weather.gov. And is that related to the FAA issue with air traffic control communications? I mean, look, there have just been a series of outages, babe. This is getting a little frightening. This is getting a lot frightening.
00:17:17
Speaker 1: Okay, this thing, the weather coincidence, or was it another coincidence here? Potentially. Potentially. They need to get, and I guess Mark Wayne Mullen is out and doing it now. I think we need to see Sean Duffy pretty soon if he's not shooting a reality show currently.
00:17:36
Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
00:17:37
Speaker 1: We need to see him. But, yeah, we wanted to hop on, folks. It looks like this is going to be a developing story throughout the night, so we might hop on again if needs be, and certainly we'll give you an update in the morning. But I just wanted to let you know, if you've got anybody who's flying, it's a mess. If you're flying, it's about to be a mess. and we don't know when it's going to be resolved. But these are scary times. This news is developing, Robes, and even as we've been on here, we ended with information we didn't have when we started.
00:18:05
Speaker 3: That's true. That's how quickly things are coming in.
00:18:08
Speaker 2: So we're going to continue to monitor the situation. We'll hop back on if anything significant develops. We always appreciate you listening to us, everyone. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes.
00:18:17
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. Good Lord, it is Friday the 13th, ain't it? So maybe we shouldn't be surprised, but we are hopping back on here on this Friday for a breaking news story that is going to impact you or anybody in your orbit that has to fly anytime soon. A nationwide ground stop. Welcome to this breaking news episode of Amy and TJ Robes. We hear this and I think our memories go to one thing in particular. Robes, when you hear nationwide ground stop, those of us of a certain age can remember the last time We felt the impact of such a thing.
00:00:46
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. You go straight back to 9-11. There's just no question. That was the last time. In fact, I got stranded in New Mexico. My dad was stranded in Brazil. And yes, I remember just this weird feeling of we take for granted our ability just to run to the airport, hop on a plane and get where we need to go. And all of a sudden, when that's taken away... Your whole world is thrown into chaos, and that's what's happening right now.
00:01:15
Speaker 1: In this moment, folks, no plane in the United States is being allowed to take off. As of this recording, we are hopping on just, what, a little over an hour after this alert was issued, and now word is starting to trickle out. But, Robes, as we speak, there is not a plane in the U.S. that is being allowed to take off, not a commercial flight. And, Robes, we don't know when that might change, and we don't know exactly why. This has happened, but this alert robes that the FAA first sent out on the National Ground Stop, this language certainly will raise your eyebrows just a bit.
00:01:52
Speaker 2: Yes, it says, due to extraordinary circumstances and for reasons of safety, attention all aircraft operators. By order of the Federal Aviation Command Center, all airports are ground stopped. all departing traffic should remain ground-stopped until further notice. Inbound international flights will be managed on a case-by-case basis.
00:02:19
Speaker 1: Robes.
00:02:20
Speaker 2: Whoa.
00:02:20
Speaker 1: This is where we are. This is where we sit on a Friday. On a Friday in the U.S., planes cannot take off, and we don't know when this might be resolved. Robes, you have to ask the question. And maybe it's a priority question to ask. Is this connected to all of this Microsoft whatnot over the past couple of days? Because there's a suggestion that this is not a cyber attack. This is some type of technical issue we are having, but this is not something that was done by somebody with ill intent.
00:02:57
Speaker 2: That is interesting that they're able to say that so resolutely, so quickly.
00:03:04
Speaker 3: I guess that's a good sign.
00:03:06
Speaker 2: Sean Duffy actually got a little specific with what he put out on X. He said the FAA news issued a nationwide ground stop for all U.S. airports following a communication issue impacting all air route traffic control centers. FAA technicians are investigating the issue. We will provide immediate updates as we have them. So the transportation secretary is telling us More specifically, that this is a communication issue. So, yes, you have to think this Microsoft issue that's affected so many folks over the last 24 hours.
00:03:43
Speaker 3: We even joked our morning run that we put up each morning.
00:03:46
Speaker 2: We weren't sure if anyone was even going to hear it or listen to it because we had a.
00:03:51
Speaker 3: Technical issue with our server.
00:03:54
Speaker 2: Where we were literally seeing zero downloads, which was hilarious for like six hours. Obviously we knew people were listening, but we weren't getting downloads. And so how are all of these things just coincidentally uniquely happening? And it just seems.
00:04:11
Speaker 1: And now this.
00:04:12
Speaker 3: This just seems way too coincidental.
00:04:15
Speaker 1: And now this. So this is where we are, folks. There are. What, 1,000 planes, I believe they said, by whatever estimate, that are currently in the air. They are all... The priority right now is getting all of them on the ground. We don't know what this issue is, but the priority right now is to get all of those planes on the ground. There is not a conversation being had. Nobody's trying to make sure people get rebooked. Because nobody knows, Robes, when you're going to be allowed to fly again. This is how new and fresh and chaotic now this has become. Cause the country. Yes. I mean, I'm sorry my mind goes here, but think about college football weekend. Think about all that's happening right now and folks travel and getting back home.
00:05:03
Speaker 3: People were on work trips. People are going on weekend trips. There are weddings. There are football games. There are funerals.
00:05:11
Speaker 2: There are places people have to be and they have an expectation. There are just commuters who go back and forth from one location to the next to work and go back home and see their loved ones.
00:05:21
Speaker 3: Yes, this is massively disruptive.
00:05:24
Speaker 2: And the only other time beyond 9-11 that this has happened in recent memory is 2023. You mentioned that right off the bat. That ground stop only lasted, and I say only, I mean, it was a big deal, but it lasted for 90 minutes. We're well beyond that at this point as of this recording. I cannot imagine how many days it is going to take based on how many hours this shutdown continues or this ground stop continues before things get back to normal.
00:05:55
Speaker 1: And here's the problem, of course, Robes. Getting back to normal, you have to have some target. You have to have... Everybody that's going to a counter right now at every airport in the country is trying to get rebooked. On to what?
00:06:12
Speaker 3: Where? When?
00:06:13
Speaker 1: That's the issue. We don't know. I can put you on something next week. put you on some well how are you going to rebook somebody for tomorrow morning or they have no idea when this is going to be done now we've seen some reporting robes it was interesting and i guess it would make sense uh several networks have you know just randomly it's a friday people are traveling so they have some of their people in airports they were reporting on this there's not chaos in the airports because word hadn't trickled it's so new nobody even knows the severity of what's.
00:06:45
Speaker 2: There were, we have been watching reporters who have been on planes.
00:06:49
Speaker 3: They were on the tarmac.
00:06:50
Speaker 2: They were about to take off and they described the announcement the pilot had to give folks saying, hey, we've just been told there is a nationwide ground stop and they couldn't give any of the passengers any information. We're looking at several of the different news outlets who have reporters around airports. New York Times has an employee inside O'Hare in Chicago, and they say that a United Airlines employee is just telling anyone who's trying to depart, anyone who's trying.
00:07:24
Speaker 3: To leave, who live in the area. just go back to your house. You ain't getting out today.
00:07:29
Speaker 2: And they're also telling travelers, um, on planes that were on the runway to depart your planes gone. It's been removed. You should go home. Like they're actually being told to go back. We don't know when you're leaving.
00:07:42
Speaker 1: This is a mess. So, um, some new reporting now here from several outlets. And I think we heard this, um, from one of the cable networks as well, that they are targeting perhaps that this could end by 11 o'clock tonight. It's scheduled to go until 11. How they know that at this point and that they'll have it cleared up. But Robes, consider that. This went into effect just before 4 o'clock. Right. Robes, you're talking about seven hours of nobody flying in this country.
00:08:17
Speaker 3: That's hard to imagine how you recover from that.
00:08:20
Speaker 1: And this is not just one region having issues because of weather. We see that sometimes at particular airports. Hell, some airports up here, LaGuardia, aren't they notorious for ground stops and whatnot?
00:08:33
Speaker 3: Yes, because they only have a couple runways.
00:08:37
Speaker 1: This is not one region being impacted. How is this system going to catch back up and get back online? This is going to be a rough weekend for travelers.
00:08:44
Speaker 2: Yes. You know how when we have rough weather or some issues on, or at least in multiple airports, we'll go on to a website called FlightAware. If you go up on that website now, it just shows red all over the entire map right now. There are 8,000 flights delayed, hundreds of cancellations, but they're probably not even up to speed.
00:09:07
Speaker 3: If no one's leaving, obviously, I'm sure... What do you do if you're an airline executive?
00:09:11
Speaker 2: If you're making decisions on a case by case basis, do you just try to keep, if you've got a plane there and you've got passengers there, you just say, we may be delayed until midnight. Can you hold tight? I mean, you just, you try to just delay the plane and not cancel the plane and know, Oh, I mean, I cannot imagine the headache this would cause in terms of rescheduling and just who makes those decisions.
00:09:36
Speaker 1: I mean, the, the, it's, The FAA has given an order. There are no choices in the matter. These airlines have to do what they are now being told. Now, they're explaining this issue having to do with some kind of a communications issue. You heard some experts on television trying to explain it. It has to do with the communication centers that handle flights that are at cruising altitude essentially it's not the air traffic controllers that are in control of getting people taking off and landing that i hear that right you're the same okay so what does that mean how do you know when that's back up you have to make sure if there's a communications issue where is this in front of me again they're alert saying for reasons of safety, due to extraordinary circumstances and reasons of safety, I don't want to see that if I am at 30,000 feet right now.
00:10:31
Speaker 3: No, you do not want to see that.
00:10:32
Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
00:10:33
Speaker 3: That is so beyond scary.
00:10:34
Speaker 2: And look, there are reports right now of people who are stuck on the tarmac because they can't even get back to the gate because there's so much congestion and confusion. Confusion that planes are trying, they're jockeying, they're competing against one another to get into the gate space. So now there are flights that have landed that have literally no gate to pull into. And so they're talking about folks on these flights where people are trying to, you know, the flight attendants are trying to hand out snacks. They don't know how long they're going to be on this tarmac. They've got babies crying and people are saying it's Friday the 13th.
00:11:11
Speaker 3: Can you imagine?
00:11:13
Speaker 1: Woo. Robes. What is going on? I feel like we're living in chaotic times. Like every day you wake up and wait for the thing that's rare, that hasn't happened but twice in history before. Society, we feel like we're in chaos too often. And what is this telling us now? I don't know. Is there anybody to blame for this? This isn't how systems are supposed to work.
00:11:45
Speaker 2: No, and this is part of the concerns that so many people have voiced about computers and AI when we rely too heavily on technology. But there's no way to actually manage and keep folks safe if you don't rely, obviously, on technology. But this is what happens when computers fail us, when technology fails us, when systems fail.
00:12:08
Speaker 3: Just break down.
00:12:10
Speaker 2: We don't have a way, or at least a quick remedy at this point, to find a new path.
00:12:17
Speaker 1: But to think of just how disruptive this is to everybody's life. Robes, in back-to-back days now, Microsoft FAA.
00:12:27
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:12:28
Speaker 3: I mean, that is.
00:12:30
Speaker 3: That seems to be beyond coincidental.
00:12:32
Speaker 2: And we're also hearing from Homeland Security Director Mark Wayne Mullen, who's talking right now about what could possibly.
00:12:40
Speaker 3: Be going on.
00:12:44
Speaker 1: Roams, they've been up until this point telling us, have they not? No cyber attack. We don't think this is anything other than a communications issue.
00:12:56
Speaker 2: Well.
00:12:57
Speaker 1: The Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security at this moment is giving comments live, and he is not so quick to be aboard the theory that this is just a communications issue.
00:13:22
Speaker 3: Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ.
00:13:25
Speaker 2: We are following the breaking news right now that there is a ground stop. There are no flights taking off from any United States airport at this hour of this recording. It's been going on for well over an hour now. And this is truly an unprecedented situation. We've only had this happen, I think most folks listening will remember 9-11. There was about a 90-minute window of time this happened in 2023. That was also some sort of communications issue. But right now, it's very vague. It's unclear right now what's going on. And Mark Wayne Mullen, the DHS secretary, is speaking saying he isn't ruling anything out.
00:14:09
Speaker 1: Um... I guess they have to say that, and I guess you should think that way. A telecommunications issue is what we have been told from the beginning of this. But to have him come out and say, well, he said, we think that's what it is. And maybe that's right, but Robes, this is, do we have, is there a security threat? Are we under that kind of threat? I mean, you still have to remember.
00:14:35
Speaker 3: Aren't we always under threat? Shouldn't we always consider that?
00:14:38
Speaker 1: But you throw, what? Robes, we're talking about lately Chinese spies and Iran with the war. Robes, it just feels like we're in scary and dangerous times. And after the Microsoft thing, just yesterday happened.
00:14:58
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:14:58
Speaker 1: That turned the world upside down. One guy having an affair with the wrong woman turns the world economy upside down. and a computer glitch or telecommunications issue is canceling people's plans for the weekend. Well, we just seem like chaos.
00:15:17
Speaker 2: It is chaos, and we just are getting word now. Again, a lot of these news outlets have reporters in various airports around the country. The New York Times reporting that in the Asheville airport just moments ago over the intercom, they told passengers that there will be no updates.
00:15:37
Speaker 3: Until midnight tonight.
00:15:39
Speaker 2: So I don't know, you heard 11 p.m., we heard midnight, but it sounds like they're making it clear nobody's going anywhere for the rest of this evening, and that's why we're hearing other passengers being told at other airports, hey, if you live nearby, you should probably just go home.
00:15:57
Speaker 1: That's it, they're not going anywhere tonight, right? Most airports, the latest flight you can get out of them domestically is early in the evening for the most part unless you're flying international.
00:16:06
Speaker 2: Somewhere correct yeah in asheville the airport actually released everyone's bags like they took everyone's bags off the planes think about if you had checked your bags in they're like here's your bag back go home even though your flight is just listed as delayed right now and i think that's part of the confusion people are looking on their phones they're looking up at the screens they're like well it's just delayed maybe we'll be able to make the flight and the staff at the airports are telling folks you ain't going anywhere.
00:16:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at these JFK. Every single flight is delayed, delayed, delayed, delayed. And they keep moving them and nothing's.
00:16:43
Speaker 3: Okay, there's something else that just came up.
00:16:46
Speaker 2: A spokesperson for the Transportation Department can't say whether or not there apparently is a parallel radar outage on weather.gov. And they're wondering if now you've got a full outage on another government site, weather.gov. And is that related to the FAA issue with air traffic control communications? I mean, look, there have just been a series of outages, babe. This is getting a little frightening. This is getting a lot frightening.
00:17:17
Speaker 1: Okay, this thing, the weather coincidence, or was it another coincidence here? Potentially. Potentially. They need to get, and I guess Mark Wayne Mullen is out and doing it now. I think we need to see Sean Duffy pretty soon if he's not shooting a reality show currently.
00:17:36
Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
00:17:37
Speaker 1: We need to see him. But, yeah, we wanted to hop on, folks. It looks like this is going to be a developing story throughout the night, so we might hop on again if needs be, and certainly we'll give you an update in the morning. But I just wanted to let you know, if you've got anybody who's flying, it's a mess. If you're flying, it's about to be a mess. and we don't know when it's going to be resolved. But these are scary times. This news is developing, Robes, and even as we've been on here, we ended with information we didn't have when we started.
00:18:05
Speaker 3: That's true. That's how quickly things are coming in.
00:18:08
Speaker 2: So we're going to continue to monitor the situation. We'll hop back on if anything significant develops. We always appreciate you listening to us, everyone. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes.
00:18:17
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon.