Sept. 23, 2026

(Wednesday) Morning Run: Trump v Media To Court, Dolly Drama, TX Execution, Iran & US Talk, Nolan Wells Fam Speaks, American Idol Murder Trial, Lionel Richie's Break, Ella Topples Mariah, & MORE!

(Wednesday) Morning Run:   Trump v Media To Court, Dolly Drama, TX Execution, Iran & US Talk, Nolan Wells Fam Speaks, American Idol Murder Trial, Lionel Richie's Break, Ella Topples Mariah,  & MORE!
(Wednesday) Morning Run:   Trump v Media To Court, Dolly Drama, TX Execution, Iran & US Talk, Nolan Wells Fam Speaks, American Idol Murder Trial, Lionel Richie's Break, Ella Topples Mariah,  & MORE!
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(Wednesday) Morning Run: Trump v Media To Court, Dolly Drama, TX Execution, Iran & US Talk, Nolan Wells Fam Speaks, American Idol Murder Trial, Lionel Richie's Break, Ella Topples Mariah, & MORE!

Robach and Holmes cover the latest news headlines and entertainment updates and give perspective on current events in their daily “Morning Run.”

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00:00:10
Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody, and thanks for joining us for today's morning run. It's Wednesday, Hump Day, September 23rd. I'm Amy Robach.

00:00:18
Speaker 2: And I'm TJ Holmes on this Hump Day. Have you checked out Trump TV yet? I have not.

00:00:25
Speaker 1: Have you?

00:00:26
Speaker 2: I haven't yet, but I am curious. There's Trump TV now. He's kicked journalists out. We don't need them. We can put on.

00:00:33
Speaker 1: Our own state-run TV.

00:00:36
Speaker 2: Trump TV. Why do I have to use the phrase state-run? That has such a negative connotation to it, baby.

00:00:42
Speaker 1: The whole idea of it is seemingly not okay.

00:00:48
Speaker 2: It's happening, folks. It's there. Yes, the president is putting out his own TV network. Essentially what? It shows his.

00:00:55
Speaker 1: Propaganda?

00:00:56
Speaker 2: Well, it shows his highlights from his presidency. It's supposed to just be rolling highlights from his presidency.

00:01:03
Speaker 1: So propaganda, then.

00:01:04
Speaker 2: I'm just saying what... Okay, I'm trying here.

00:01:07
Speaker 1: We're saying the same thing.

00:01:10
Speaker 2: You all don't know. She says it to me like three times a day. We just talk differently.

00:01:15
Speaker 1: We come at it from a different place, but we're saying the same thing.

00:01:18
Speaker 2: We're not saying the same thing. But hello, folks, on this hump day. I guess that's the way things are going to go. But wherever you might be, hope you are getting a good start to your Wednesday. We've got a bunch of stops to make on this hump day run. We'll make a stop in Nashville, make a stop in D.C. We'll swing by Lana Richie's house. Also, we'll swing by the United Nations. Also, an Ohio courtroom. We'll make a stop in Mississippi and also the Texas death chamber. But, Robes, let's start with what continues to be a saga, a drama, some new drip, drip, drip of something every day. Trump versus the press. Now, that's not a new thing. He's always battling the fake news, right? He's been saying that for years and years. But this one's now in court.

00:02:00
Speaker 1: That's right. The Trump administration now defending its decision to ban CNN, MSNOW and Politico from the White House, claiming the media outlets are peddling verifiable falsehoods. So, yes, the three outlets filed a First Amendment lawsuit this week after the president kicked them out of the White House. Other news outlets then stood by their colleagues, refused to continue to provide pool coverage of the president.

00:02:26
Speaker 2: So, yeah, he was rolling around on Monday and Tuesday here in New York without a network camera following him around. So now in response to the news outlets' lawsuit, the Justice Department, which was required to respond by the end of the day yesterday, they claimed that access to the White House robes is a privilege. It's not a right. They also cited specific stories in which they believe the news outlets published false or top-secret information.

00:02:53
Speaker 1: Okay. Meanwhile, we got this gem from the President of the United States on his Truth Social. All of the sleazebags, like third-rate reporter Caitlin Collins of fake news CNN, a truly unhappy person... said they weren't going to be covering me. Then why were they ranting and raving like lunatics in the press area at the United Nations? Why was she there? She's got a Trump addiction and so does CNN and MSDNC. They're all sick, treasonous and demented. The good news is that they have a great-for-them and totally disloyal judge. So already undermining the judge who's yet to decide the case. Because he knows that any judge will be on the side of the journalist and the Constitution.

00:03:46
Speaker 2: Just to have it at the UN, babe. He's calling people sleazebags and third-rate reporters, truly unhappy person. It's just bizarre, Robes. The President of the United States looking at a woman, a grown, professional, adult woman. And saying you're a truly unhappy person.

00:04:02
Speaker 1: And treasonous.

00:04:03
Speaker 2: That's our president.

00:04:05
Speaker 1: And demented.

00:04:06
Speaker 2: Well, there was other stuff going on at the UN. Oh, yeah, he made a speech. And I guess, Robes, if you can't annihilate him, talk to him. Yes, yesterday the president in his UN speech once again threatened to, quote, drive the people of Iran to hell and, quote, annihilate them. Well, after that, the U.S. and Iran, well, the reps apparently held an unscheduled meeting, Robes.

00:04:28
Speaker 1: This is so bizarre. But, yes, this is all according to President Trump, who said his envoys, Steve Woodcoff and Jared Kushner, met for hours with Iranian officials. So how'd it go? Woodcoff put it like this. Hope it will prove constructive and promising. Trump, it was a very good meeting.

00:04:47
Speaker 2: There you have it. The president of Iran is supposed to speak today. I'll actually tune in for that one. Continuing on the run here on this Wednesday morning. Now, the family of Nolan Wells says they do not accept the findings of the grand jury, which this week said there was insufficient evidence to bring criminal charges against anyone. Wells, as you remember, the 18-year-old, his body was found in shallow waters two days after he had gone boating with friends to celebrate the 4th of July. This was at some barrier islands just off the coast of Mississippi.

00:05:16
Speaker 1: That's right. And the grand jury noted... that two autopsies could not definitively say how Nolan Wells died, but by process of elimination, he likely died by drowning. At a press conference yesterday, Wells' family and attorney questioned how the grand jury could come to this conclusion without the determined cause of a bruising that was on his body and the back of his head specifically. So they say their fight continues, their search for the truth continues. And there will be another press conference in Orlando. Specifically, they say they have the best of the best going through a lot of that digital material from the phones, or at least Nolan Wells' phones. So they're hoping to have more answers later.

00:05:56
Speaker 2: All right, continuing on the run here now, let's head up to Ohio, where testimony will resume this morning in the murder trial of a former American Idol contestant, Caleb Flynn is his name. He's accused of shooting his wife, Ashley, in February of this year at their Ohio home and then staging... The scene to look like an intruder had killed her yesterday. Several of her family members were up there giving some emotional testimony. But something that stood out, their impressions of him over the years. Nothing suspicious.

00:06:22
Speaker 1: They thought he was nice.

00:06:23
Speaker 2: Always liked him. Always liked him. And the dad, there was some weird Google search that he said he did after the killing. Can a pastor snap and kill his wife? He was just looking for answers, babe. It just didn't make sense.

00:06:35
Speaker 1: That's so weird. And Ashley's mom actually testified to seeing both of their daughters After the incident and that they were scared and afraid to tell the truth. So, yes, and we are expecting his daughters, as of right now, to also testify against their own father.

00:06:53
Speaker 2: In the next room, babe. They said the girls were in the next room when he shot.

00:06:57
Speaker 1: And he claimed he was in the room with them when the gunshots rang out, that he had fallen asleep with them. And that is where their testimony will prove to be, I'm sure, very important for the prosecution. In the meantime, though, next up on the run, the attorney for the loan holdout juror in the Lindsay Clancy case says it's disgusting that Clancy's attorney wants that juror investigated. Now, we told you yesterday that Clancy's attorney, Kevin Reddington, is requesting that a judge question him. His name is Michael Disronville, and the defense wants the judge to also review Disronville's original juror questionnaire and obtain his cell phone records.

00:07:39
Speaker 2: Yes, those cell phone records they want to see every day of deliberations between 8.30 and 4. We'll see if that happens. The jury's attorney released a statement yesterday slamming Reddington's motion saying, quote, his disgusting motion to investigate Michael is worthy of nothing but universal condemnation. This is certainly not the final word from us on this subject, but merely our first words. The holdout jury refused to go along with the Other 11 jurors have voted Clancy not guilty by reason of insanity. The judge, of course, declared a mistrial. We'll know if there will be another trial. We hope to find out next week. That hearing is on Tuesday, I do believe, but a status hearing essentially to say, what do we do now? And prosecutors, what are they going to do? I have no word that a deal is being, that the two sides are negotiating.

00:08:27
Speaker 1: We haven't heard anything from either side about that. So, yes, we shall see next week. Next up on the run, there is a nasty fight brewing between Dolly Parton's family members and the people in charge of her estate. This is awful. This is the last thing you want to hear from a woman who brought us all together, who truly brought the world together, certainly this country together. Now her own people, the moment she's gone, can't get along. Parton died on August 25th. And remember that announcement? It was that video message by her own nephew, Brian Seaver. He had served as her head of security for 20 years.

00:09:08
Speaker 2: Okay, well, it's deeper than that, Robes. He took over this role from his dad, who was her head of security. They said this is something she was big into, is having family around and hiring family, but only if... they had the required skills. She's not just giving jobs to family members just for shits and giggles. But he carried out this job, Robes, for a long time. Three weeks after her death, he gets fired. And a lot of us are like, well, what the hell is going on? The estate is one she set up, Robes, to handle her legacy. And now her legacy is something they say her nephew is threatening. The estate is asking for a restraining order against him because He threatened to smear her, smear her, her legacy, cost her brand deals to ruin these things, and even made physical threats against employees.

00:10:00
Speaker 1: They called it a campaign of threats and claimed Seaver promised to destroy the entire brand. The estate said he's demanding money, threatened to start a podcast to tarnish his aunt's reputation and This is terrible. We're going to have a lot more on this story coming up. You know, you see this happen in families fighting over money, but this is not, this was not expected. She ran a tight ship, but apparently when she isn't at the helm, everything goes to hell.

00:10:33
Speaker 2: Immediately, baby. Damn. Immediately this happens. But yes, we have an episode we'll be putting up here in the feed shortly to give you more details about this. Look for that. Also, Rose, let's head to Next up on the run here, down to Texas. They're expected to carry out their sixth execution of the year. Their Kershawn Ramey is the name. He's going to die by lethal ejection for a 2005 triple murder of robes that we were just talking about.

00:10:58
Speaker 1: That's right, because Ramey and another man who was executed last week broke into a neighbor's house believing they'd find cocaine. They end up killing the neighbor, and then his two roommates walk in. It's his roommate and her boyfriend Kershawn. And they ended up shooting them. So the man who committed the crime with Ramey, LeJames Norman, yes, executed last week in Texas in that same execution chamber. So this will be the 28th execution of the year in the United States. And the next one is going to be in Florida next week.

00:11:33
Speaker 2: No surprise there. Well, stay with us here on this Wednesday morning run when we come back. The so-called looks-maxing influencer now charged with rape. We're getting more details about that crime, alleged crime, I should say. Also coming up, much-deserved break for 77-year-old Lionel Richie. We're hearing from his reps about what his medical condition was that's causing him to step off tour. Also, Swifties stay in a frenzy, it seems, but Taylor Swift gave them another reason to be even more frenzied. And what in the world? Somebody dethroned Mariah Carey?

00:12:19
Speaker 1: Welcome back on this Wednesday morning run. And next up on the run, look smacking. I can never say this. Look smacking influencer.

00:12:27
Speaker 2: Look smacking. It's kind of funny. Look smacking. Lip smacking.

00:12:31
Speaker 1: Lip smacking good, right?

00:12:32
Speaker 2: Look smacking. Okay, nice. We'll never get it out, right?

00:12:35
Speaker 1: It's going to get in my head every time. Look smacking influencer, he's known as Clavicular, says he's innocent as new details emerge about the rape allegations against him. Police in Massachusetts have charged... Clavicular, who is actually, his real name is Braden Peters, with rape. And look, the details of this one are very disturbing.

00:12:59
Speaker 2: And some of the details, Robes, apparently were live streamed. So he's accused of luring a 17-year-old girl to his family home on Cape Cod, where she appeared in a live stream with him, allegedly gave her alcohol, but on camera was telling her to say it was water, also telling her to say she was 18 when she was actually Now, she alleges that afterwards she was not able to give consent. He had sex with her after that live stream ended. He is set now to appear in court next month. Robes. This is, I mean, the trend itself is disturbing enough. But you add this to it and they call it a subculture look smaxing.

00:13:38
Speaker 1: Yes, where you were willing to smash bones in your face to look better, stronger, sharper, jawlines, etc. Yeah. But, yes, this is some very, very disturbing allegations because at the time he was only 20, correct? So neither one of them should even have been consuming alcohol whatsoever, let alone. And his family was in the home at the time as well?

00:14:01
Speaker 2: That's what she says according to a lawsuit, mom and grandma in the house.

00:14:04
Speaker 1: Goodness. All right, we're going to have much more on that story later on in the feed, so look for that as well. Next up on the run, Lionel Richie is taking some time off. Much needed, much deserved. You know, he seems immortal. To hear he's 77 actually is a bit shocking because he's so active. Yeah, he just seems forever young. But his rep confirmed yesterday that he had a heart procedure and will now have to come off his tour temporarily, hopefully.

00:14:33
Speaker 2: Yes. Actually, they suggest he might be back out there soon. Amazing. Now, this procedure I asked you about, I hear it sometimes, but not. familiar with it, atrial fibrillation. It's an irregular heart rhythm in robes. It makes sense. It can cause you to feel tired, weak, unable to breathe, a loss of, right, your breathing. And this seems to be what happened to him on stage a couple of times.

00:14:55
Speaker 1: Exactly. And I'm not sure because, look, I'm a walking medical miracle, but I guess I have had to have a heart procedure done as well for something similar. And it's called an ablation. So it's pretty amazing what doctors can do. So I'm wondering if that's what he had done. And yes, you got to take a little time off, but it's actually pretty remarkable. They zap the part of your heart that is malfunctioning with a laser and it, your heart starts to, cause I had dangerous arrhythmia. So yeah, it's, what doctors can do.

00:15:26
Speaker 2: So this was great to hear. You remember we got nervous. He had checked himself into a hospital and we didn't get real updates for.

00:15:31
Speaker 1: Like 24, 48 hours.

00:15:32
Speaker 2: Like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:15:34
Speaker 1: You were beside yourself.

00:15:35
Speaker 2: Tell me what's going on with Lionel because this was gross. We just lost Hayden Penance. Yeah, Dolly Parton, all this is going on. Like, whoa. But they say he's doing great. Expected to continue touring soon is the word they used.

00:15:48
Speaker 1: Well, that's very good news. Some exciting news for Taylor Swift fans. Yes, they were sent Into their constant state of frenzy or just maybe a new level, a higher level. Because, yeah, she announced she's releasing a new single this week. It's called Patient Zero.

00:16:07
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, obviously, I don't sit around and anticipate and wait for Taylor Swift to drop new music. You don't? I don't. But for whatever reason, I found it fascinating. This will be her first music she's released as a married woman. I'm just curious.

00:16:20
Speaker 1: Let's hope it doesn't go downhill, right? What? They say that about athletes, right? That they get distracted because they're so happy and in love. They're not as focused as they normally would be or should be.

00:16:30
Speaker 2: Or this is just going to let something new flow out of her as a married woman, is what I thought.

00:16:33
Speaker 1: For an artist, yeah, he could be her muse, right?

00:16:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, that part of it was cool.

00:16:37
Speaker 1: But don't athletes get that a lot? Like once they've got a girlfriend, they don't do as well? No. Don't they say that about Olympians? No. Okay.

00:16:44
Speaker 2: Okay.

00:16:46
Speaker 1: All right. They're not distracted.

00:16:48
Speaker 2: A lot of guys are more motivated. A lot of guys know how to not be distracted. Oftentimes, famously, they'll go to a Super Bowl or playoffs or whatever, tell the family, do not come, because that serves as a distraction. Because if I'm thinking about my family, I'm worried about you guys, make sure you got to the hotel. No, no, that's just to keep them away from the time being. It's not a matter of don't get married. No, no, no. Being married is a plus. It adds something.

00:17:11
Speaker 1: Okay.

00:17:11
Speaker 2: To every athlete.

00:17:12
Speaker 1: All right, we can't wait to hear the music then and the new boost it's going to have. All right, and for the final leg of our run, speaking of music, whoo, this is a big deal. This is cool. I thought maybe this day would never come. Mariah Carey dethroned because up until now, yes, she's held the record for the longest run at number one on the Billboard chart. It was 22 weeks, and I bet you can guess the song.

00:17:37
Speaker 2: Yes.

00:17:38
Speaker 1: All I want for Christmas is you.

00:17:42
Speaker 2: I don't know what year it was. It had to be around Christmas time or something and lead up to, for her to have a Christmas song be number one for damn near half a year was pretty remarkable.

00:17:54
Speaker 1: That is, actually, when you think about that. How is that possible?

00:17:58
Speaker 2: But she did it. But 22 weeks, never thought that would be broken. It just got broken. Everybody can guess what the song was.

00:18:05
Speaker 1: Oh, I knew it immediately.

00:18:06
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it came out in October. Oh, wow. Really? The song's been around for a long time.

00:18:12
Speaker 1: Shoes in Texas.

00:18:13
Speaker 2: Yes, the song first came out, but it made it finally to number one, and now it has been there for 23 straight weeks. Ella Langley has just exploded onto the scene with this song. It is a wonderfully written song. The melody and all that is one thing, but I love it.

00:18:30
Speaker 1: You love this song.

00:18:32
Speaker 2: Country music writing is some of the best in the industry. I love this song.

00:18:36
Speaker 1: October of 2025 is when it was released.

00:18:40
Speaker 2: It didn't immediately make it to the top of the chart.

00:18:42
Speaker 1: I love that, though.

00:18:43
Speaker 2: But the song's been around for a while.

00:18:44
Speaker 1: What a great story. You know, because it shows you, you can have a slow burn, and then maybe those are the ones that last the longest, which, like that meteoric rise, quick to rise, quick to fall. This has staying power, and it is a great song.

00:18:57
Speaker 2: We thought, Rob, this was interesting. Shaboozie. Bar Song and then Old Town Road. These are fairly recent songs. Bar Song was just, what, last year or the year before?

00:19:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, 19 weeks.

00:19:07
Speaker 2: Both of those. So those are the four songs at the top now.

00:19:11
Speaker 1: That is very impressive. Congratulations to Ella Langley. All right, for your quote of the day on this hump day. Guard your peace like it's a flame in the wind. Don't let one difficult person take over your entire day.

00:19:29
Speaker 2: Flame in the wind.

00:19:30
Speaker 1: Protect your peace like it's a flame in the wind. Don't let one difficult person take over your entire day. It shows you how easy it is to hand over your peace and to let, and that's a choice. And if you look at it like that, it really is empowering. I thought that was cool on this hump day. when life's little frustrations can take over your entire day, choose otherwise. And with that, everyone, we always appreciate you running with us. I'm Amy Robach.

00:19:59
Speaker 2: And I'm TJ Holmes. Talk soon.