“We Could Deport Him Right During the Halftime Show”: Major MAGA Outrage Over Bad Bunny Super Bowl Gig

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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, it is Monday, September twenty ninety and if you want to perform at the Super Bowl halftime show, you bet a ah blah some long glace And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. What the actual hell rolls? I said it. As soon as they said bad Bunny. I had half a second that I was excited, and then we immediately went, oh God, here we go.

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Speaker 2: There is a massive uproar specifically among the MAGA community. And I don't want to say conservatives, because not all conservatives are on board with this. It is very specific to some people within the far right, the MAGA group that are extremely upset about bad Bunny.

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Speaker 1: We know that was coming. We knew that, we saw this coming. This is not just an artist who is a Puerto Rican. This is a guy who, oh what is it? Ninety five percent of his songs are not in English.

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Speaker 2: Correct, but you know them at least if you listen to music. You know then because his music is everywhere and he has been wildly successful at bringing in people from all different types of ethnicities. And regardless of what actual language you speak, music is universal, is it not? And so he is one of those artists. Everyone runs on the dance floor when his music comes on.

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Speaker 1: Period, So why so here we go? All right, super Bowl halftime performer is announced. This is actually earlier than they have done in years past. We used to cover this, and cover this, and cover this, and always wait. Sometimes it has been as late as a December that we have gotten were now Jay Z and Rock Nation his company has been in charge of doing the Super Bowl halftime show, producing it for the past at least five.

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Speaker 2: But since twenty nineteen, I believe that's when they contracted him.

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Speaker 1: So he's been doing it. And quite frankly, yes, there has has there been a white person to performs since to jay Z. Now there has not been a white artist. Okay, fine, we'll get into all the artists who were before him in just a second. But robes this guy, bad Bunny. The one of the most streamed artists on the planet, one of the most successful artists on the planet. The only competition he really has streaming wise might be Taylor Taylor Swift. A few years ago it might have been Drake, but she is his only competition. If an artist that big, this is a no brainer. Well, yeah, he's one of the biggest stars in music. Of course he should have this stage. Why is that not the end of it?

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Speaker 2: So that's where my head was, because yes, I feel so naive now because you were very quick to say, uh oh, this is not going to be good, and I naively thought, why this is so cool? This is an not just an up and coming artist. And sure maybe if you're of a certain age and you have very specific music tastes, you might not have heard his music. I find that hard to believe. But okay, let's just say you don't know who he is. How cool that someone who has just rallied the world now gets a spotlight, a national spotlight at the greatest sporting event in all of the United States. I would say that's fair to say. The super Bowl is the biggest sporting event of the year in this country, period, biggest.

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Speaker 1: Event every year in the world. Most watch this is it, this is happening, This guy gets it, and obviously, I say, obviously, Well, maybe it is obvious to people. There are some that are upset that the country is becoming too diverse, that there is a majority minority. Now we have seen plenty of folks want to kind of DEI scrub the country to a certain degree, and that's coming out of the administration. So with that as your backdrop, Now, football American sport, biggest game American culture. There is there anything more American than the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: No, and the folks who are upset point to the fact that most of his songs are not in English, that he does dress in a gender bending way. He has been pictured many times in dresses, and they're throwing all those pictures up there. His face has been bejeweled with rhinestones and pearls, and he's worn makeup. And so they're now saying men are under attack. White people are under attack. You know, English speaking songs are under attack. You know, they wanted Taylor, they wanted Dolly. There were all sorts of people saying, we thought these people might get a chance.

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Speaker 1: I'd be okay with them too. Yes, I have no problem with diversities. Now, if you all let's start, I guess let's start with the basics. And we have comments, and you plucked plenty, and some of them are you can't believe what you're reading. But we need to start with this robes.

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Speaker 2: Just some facts his credentials before we get into his.

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Speaker 1: Credentials, can we get into his citizenship?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: And it's so funny because I actually didn't think this was necessary until I started reading the comments, and I started reading them to you, and I said, do people not think he's American? He is Puerto Rican? Puerto Ricana. Puerto Rico is a US territory. Puerto Ricans are American citizens, and in fact, they have right to be upset because they don't have representation in Congress, and yet they're still subject to and guaranteed rights as citizens of the United States of America. If anyone has traveled to Puerto Rico, which we have had the amazing opportunity to do, so, you don't have to bring your passport because once again, you're on American soil when you're in Puerto Rico. Period. Let's clear that up.

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Speaker 1: But there is a whole host of comments you can find about deporting the guy, or denying him.

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Speaker 2: A visa, entrigue, arresting him in the middle, we'll get I think it's more funny just to read what people wrote, because but my jaw dropped and then it was just one after the other. I put three examples in just to give you the diversity of the ignorance. But it's wild and hurling insults. They're actually showcasing their ignorance.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so let's go back. You said Bad Bunny. You had to have heard the name at this point, and even if you're not, fine, here's an opportunity to learn something. We and we'll full disclosure here. We don't have Bad Bunny constantly streaming on our playlist. He is not one of our necessarily top artists we listen to. However, we got plenty of songs of his that you hear him. I was like, oh, I didn't realize that was Bad Bunny. Oh I didn't realize it was him. The guy is a phenomenal artist, now you can this is not just us being subjective. He has a resume and credentials to back up. Why at thirty one years old, he just did a multi hundred million dollar residency in Puerto Rico. This guy is music right now. Of course he should be.

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Speaker 2: And I love that he is going to potentially even bring a new set of fans who might not have watched the Super Bowl to the game itself. So how cool is that that we can have more eyes and more fans of a pastime that US Americans love and present parties included. You're huge football fans, and this guy is.

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Speaker 1: He puts on extravagant show. It's so it's going to be special to watch. And we told you he's one of the most streamed artists on the planet. But get this, he is the only artist to do this. He went back to back to back years as the number one most streamed artists on Spotify. There is not another artist on the planet who's done that.

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Speaker 2: Not even Taylor Sweat, not even her. He's the only artist to ever have a number one album on Billboard Charts in Spanish.

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Speaker 1: That is unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Right there you go. Because music translates. Music is a universal language. That is why so many of us love music, because you don't have to know even what the lyrics are or what the words. We hell half the song sung in English. These days, I don't even know what the lyrics are, but I like the song. I have to look them up. He's a three time Grammy winner. He's the first person to have a Spanish language album nominated for a Grammy for Album of the Year.

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Speaker 1: That is incredible. That is the most important category. At the Grammys. This wasn't a Latin Grammy here.

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Speaker 2: Look, we're seeing it at the Oscars too, where we see foreign films actually being up for Best Picture. And that's cool too, that we're all able to share in the artistry and recognize good shit when we hear it or see it, regardless of what country actually produces it or what language it's in. And you got anyone who loves movies knows that foreign films are like, they're not any They're not any less valued because they're not in English.

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Speaker 1: What do I remember Roma?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, I believe that did nodding. And how about the Korean the Korean horror movie thank You exactly. So I'm just saying this translates to different genres of art. And this isn't the first time. Why is this so shocking to people? I don't get it now. He actually already made a halftime Super Bowl appearance. He showed up. Oh my gosh, I love the Jaelo Shakira halftime show. That was in twenty twenty. That was jay Z's first yes yes, because he took over after twenty nineteen, which was Maroon five. So the first one was Jaylo and Shakira. I loved that performance, and Bad Bunny made an appearance.

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Speaker 1: So again, it's gonna be interesting when we go through and we read who the performers have been before and after jay Z took over. That's interesting to see.

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Speaker 2: But and being pointed out quite heavily.

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Speaker 1: And I'm okay with that, and we will discuss that. But I am okay. I feel think about the people of Puerto Rico, how they must feel to know their guy is going to be on this stage. That's a really proud moment for Puerto Rico, as it should be, and it's the pride and what they're going to feel. And since I immediately so I don't even think I had fifteen seconds to celebrate him being named. When we saw it this morning, it was, oh God, we gotta go through that. We gotta go through this fight. It's gonna be nasty, it's going to be ugly. It's September. We got to do this and through next February and then the show is gonna happen. What you're gonna happen. You have Boycott's, You're gonna have people going after the NFL. You've already seen people canceling subscriptions and things like that. And you brought up this point and not said, damn, do we even say that out loud? But what we're talking about here, given all that we've seen, good God, the super Bowl is already a one of the most what do they call them a level They call it super Bowl level security, but they call it as a targeted event. They treat it as if it's like terrorist I'm scar.

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Speaker 2: In this climate. I have a feeling he has to be now you know, people lawyer up in some avenues. He's gonna have to beef up his security. I mean, it makes me nervous just where we are in this world and what we're seeing. It feels like week after week after week. Yes, and the.

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Speaker 1: Spanish language songs.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's also some of his comments that he's made about ice and about Trump and the fact that he look, he's got this next big tour. He's announced it begins at the end of this year, goes through the summer, and he announced that he is not making any tour stops in the United States out of fear that his fans, some of his fans might be targeted by ice raids.

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Speaker 1: Now coming from again, this is a guy who's from Puerto Rico. This is a guy who has been I think you could call him an activist. He's been very vocal about what he has seen happening to I mean folks he fills a kinship with, and he has spoken out. That's okay. Now, folks will interpret the things he's saying as anti Ice, therefore anti government and anti Trump.

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Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean he's anti American. That's the whole premise by which America stands. On the fact that we get to say those things and still live freely, the fact that we get to express our opinions even when they're not popular or don't necessarily sit well with everyone. That's what makes America America. Please, please, please, let's not forget that.

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Speaker 1: But we have. It seems in these debates so often there's only one type of America that some people think that should be, and it's got to be all white all the time. And any attempt to be diverse, any attempt to inject diversity of some kind or a culture outside of what some feel is good all American culture is a problem.

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Speaker 2: We're a melting pot. We just have forgotten that. Have we forgotten that? What did you say, if it ain't white, it ain't right.

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Speaker 1: That's what the arguments have been. There's no other argument. Okay, he shouldn't be there because he sings in Spanish. Okay, that is that? Really it? Because America shouldn't be that, you should only have one. That's when we there's some artists that have done halftime shows. I don't like their music. I'm not going crazy about it. Okay, I don't like your music. This is a thing where it seems like people think so much of the country once again, is being taken from them. Their position, their majority position, feels like it's being taken. So it's not even about the artists and don't like his music. It feels like some kind of to them, an affront, a political statement, a direct insult and attack on the America they want to see.

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Speaker 2: That is absolutely what's going on. So I have to say, I loved this. Let's let's let's make a positive beat here. Bad Bunny his statement that he made. I loved it after he was announced. I just thought it was sweet and full of just passion and just really it was heartfelt. Bad Bunny said this what I'm feeling goes beyond myself. It's for those who came before me and ran countless yards so I could come in and score a touchdown. This is for my people, my culture, and our history. And then he went on, I won't try it in Spanish to basically say, go tell your grandmother, we will be the super Bowl halftime show. Very cute he said it, and he wrote it in Spanish.

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Speaker 1: And the announcement that video they made that was he didn't speak in the video announcing it.

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Speaker 2: Showed him you didn't know where, but it was beautiful. There was a beach around him and as the camera pulls out you see he's sitting on a goalpost. It was really cool.

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Speaker 1: So our argument here it's not necessarily in favor of or against. We're not is not this side or that we just we sit here as Americans, and their's space for Bad Bunny and all of his fans to actually be a part of America. We understand the problem that some people have there should not be And I argue as well, we've talked about this because we've seen the attack in Dallas on the ice facility, where we talk about anti ice rhetoric, there is some of it out there. These are guys just doing their jobs. California wants them to take their mask off when they're doing their job, and all these things. It's serious. People were taking shots at ICE agents. Now when you put that or take that into account, I could see how people who are good meaning folks, yes, who just know ICE agents are doing their job, or say, hey, these folks are some of these folks are in the country illegally and they are just doing their job and this is what should be done. So to hear anti ice rhetoric, I could see why they might have a problem.

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Speaker 2: So one of the several things are being put up online and one of them as recently as June where Bad Bunny did record and post a video. He was taking video on his cell phone of ICE agents doing their job, and he was they were there in Puerto Rico, and he just said, look at those mother efforts in these cars raft fours. They're here in Pontezuela, sons of bees instead of leaving the people alone and working there. So he was taking video of ICE agents and was cursing and upset that they were targeting and going after Hispanic folks.

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Speaker 1: Is there a space for both? Is there a space for us to have a debate that somebody can see those raids happening and go, yes, they are doing their jobs, they are doing a good job, and this is for the betterment of the country. That could be somebody on the other side looking at it with a different life experience and legitimately be upset and speak about being upset and maybe say something they wish they hadn't said. Whatever, But it's their space for that debate without him being anti American and the other side being evil as well. That's okay about that debate, that's not the one happening. It is ugly, it is nasty, and when we come back, we are going to let you hear exactly how ugly and nasty it is. Gotten And it hadn't even been twenty four hours yet.

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Speaker 2: Folks, welcome back to this edition of Amy and TJ. We are talking about the NFL's decision to unnounce, and it was exciting for about thirty seconds that Bad Bunny would be the halftime show of this next year's Super Bowl, and there was an immediate celebration. Bad Bunny put out a statement and sure his followers and fans, the millions of them, all celebrated, but very quickly. We heard from the other side a lot of people upset that this particular artist was chosen to perform in this year's Super Bowl for a number of reasons. And let me just let them tell you, because they can say it better than I can. So I saw Benny Johnson three point nine million followers. This is what he tweeted almost immediately. This is Bad Bunny. He was just announced as the twenty twenty six Super Bowl halftime show. Massive trumpeter, anti ice activist, no songs in English. He even canceled his entire US tour for this reason. And then he quoted bad Bunny saying ething ice could be outside my concert and it's something that we were talking about and very concerned about. Benny Johnson goes on to say the NFL is self destructing year after year, and then he shows two pictures of Bad Bunny looking feminine with pearls and rhymestones. Was the point of that, Yeah, So he just said that. Then he let all of his followers just jump in. So one follower, is this a joke? A dude calls himself Bad Bunny. Let me guess his music is everywhere. He's won ten Grammys and he's the hottest performer of a generation, same as the last guy I never heard of. He's referring to Kendrick Lamar.

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Speaker 1: Obviously take that look for a second. Let's do this robes. It is, why do people think people aren't deserving of a platform because that person isn't in your circle?

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Speaker 2: So listen to this.

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Speaker 1: What you haven't heard of him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what you're just saying. His next and last line is this, No, it's gonna speak right to what you just said. So then he goes on to say, my question is do they even look in the stands or do they only go by who is in this suite? Which begs another question, who are the weirdos in the suites? So he does want this person, the performer, to reflect and look like and be a part of what he considers the football fan in the seats.

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Speaker 1: What's the viewership of the super Bowl? There were you a hundred something millions? Hundred Okay, yeah, there's more than just the people in the stands. Again, we're trying to leave space and respect people's opinions. If you don't like him as a performer, if you don't want him there. The next thing is what's important to me, why don't you want him there?

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Speaker 2: So listen to this one. This will be fearless, funny enough. Is this person's name on Twitter? Or X says this? So the NFL, already hemorrhaging credibility with endless political pandering, just picked bad Bunny for the twenty twenty six halftime show, a performer who who openly hates Trump, rails against ice, and doesn't even sing in English translation. The league chose a man who openly disrespects half the country and its laws to headline the biggest American sports stage. Forget unity, forget broad appeal, forget football culture. The NFL now treats the Super Bowl like a diversity marketing seminar, where entertainment value comes second to political symbolism. This isn't about music. It's about the league bending the knee to cultural gatekeeper, to cultural gatekeepers, while alienating the very fans who built its empire.

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Speaker 1: Are we still there with cultural gatekeepers? It seems like Trump is winning all those cultural war Everybody's scared to death of this guy, Like I'm a little surprised, like of all people to put on stage, you know, this is going to piss off Donald Trump. Of course it is, so I wonder what the contract states. Does jay Z have to get the blessing? Yes of Roger Goodett.

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Speaker 2: Everything I have read says yes, the NFL has to sign off on it. So Roger Goodell did. Now I'm going to read these three next ones in a row, because this was what we referenced before we went to break at the top of the episode about people who literally don't understand the Puerto Rico is America. Katie Kirk I don't know if that's her actual last name, but Katie Kirk says, could Marco Rubio deny his visa based on his anti Ice rhetoric? No CAFU says, well, we could deport him right, deport him right during the halftime show. That would be good Who the hell listens to Bad Bunny anyway? And David Copp says Ice should deport him as he takes the stage. Now, that would be a Super Bowl halftime show we could all get behind.

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Speaker 1: Would lawsuit a riot?

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Speaker 2: It's he can't be arrested. He's American people, he is American. That blew my mind.

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Speaker 1: Surely people are going to take those down soon when they realize.

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Speaker 2: I don't know but this one got me too because I referenced all of the imagery that's out there of bad Bunny now in dresses and looking feminine. Derek writes, the next best thing to hurt your enemy is to hurt what they love. The super Bowl, for whatever reason, is one of the most American things we have left. This is a kid in the nuts to NFL fans and and males around the world. Oh my god, that's just some insight into what people are not just thinking, but putting down in writing and sending out for the world to see.

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Speaker 1: What do we do, Babe, about the country that folks don't think an American is welcome because the American sings in Spanish. What do we do to bridge that divide? When you're saying this isn't welcome. You're not welcome to be a part of our American culture. You American Puerto Rican, You're not allowed to participate.

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Speaker 2: This is all we have left, That's what he says.

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Speaker 1: So this is the whitest thing we have. I'm saying the argument seemed to be nothing, but that is that this thing is no longer.

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Speaker 2: Ours with the predominantly black athletic h I mean, come on, We're not this a white sport. What are you? Are you kidding me? That's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: You're mad at the NFL. Stop watching You've got a problem with diversity. Stop watching the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Can I please put on one shining example that I saw on Twitter among all of the hate that was put out there, Angel wrote this bad bunny raised seven hundred and thirteen million dollars for Puerto Rico with his residency. What the f does no songs in English have to do with it. I'm a conservative New York n y Reacan, New York Reacan, and I'm okay with it. We had to deal with boring ass Tom Petty a few years ago. You'll be fine. That made me laugh, And I want to say, it's not all conservatives, it's not all people who voted for Trump. It's not all people who call themselves Republicans. These are a specific group. But they're loud. Yeah, they're loud, and it's sad, and it's scary because we don't know. We talked they and they're the first ones to start getting upset at the liberal extremists, stoking the fans or stoking fanning the flames, stoking the fire potentially creating violent situations. What is this then? Wouldn't this be the exact same rhetoric that could potentially incite violence. I mean, that's just my thing. Let's all hold up mirrors and let's all acknowledge that it's happening from extremists on both sides. Period.

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Speaker 1: So he's a singer. He's a singer, and I want to all we have to leave space for people to genuine to not like that he's there. I just when the answers come and the reasons come is that it's I don't want them there, okay, because he's anti Ice, But I will listen to that. I mean, some people, look, I get that.

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Speaker 2: I get that.

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Speaker 1: And where's his statement? He? Uh, where is the statement he made that upset everybody about. He was essentially saying that he he's not touring in the US. He has a tour coming up in November. This guy is an international superstar. He can make a lot of money in the US, and he said he is not going to.

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Speaker 2: Do it because he said fing Ice could be outside my concerts. That's what he said. I'm not going to tour in the United States because FI could be. Now here's the other thing that we want to get into, because this is the whole. If it ain't white, it ain't right. So there is another tweet on X that actually will push us perfect into this next part of the conversation. So this one came from someone on X who wrote fun fact. Maroon five, Adam Levine and the band headlined the super Bowl Halftime show in twenty nineteen at the Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta, marking the last time a predominantly white performer led an NFL super Bowl halftime show. They performed with rapper Travis Scott and Big Boy as guests, both of whom are black. Since then, shows have featured artists Jennifer Lopez and Shakira twenty twenty, both Latina, The Weekend twenty twenty one, Black Doctor, Dre Snoop Dogg, Eminem, Mary J. Blige, and Kendrick Lamar twenty twenty two, all black except Eminem. Rihanna, Oh, Rihanna, Sorry, that was my That was so rude.

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Speaker 1: I was in the middle of a thought. I have to She didn't answer. Sometimes you just send us strike to voicemail. You don't know, she answered, and immediately hung up on her. That was. But the point we're still here making about what has happened to the Super Bowl halftime show since jay Z took over. Yes, finishing that thought, you go back to the several the previous shows, so the past one, two, three, four, five, six shows that have been done since jay Z took over producing the halftime show twenty twenty, we talked about Shakiri and j Low. After that, it was the weekend after that Doctor Dre Snoop fifty, Eminem, Mary Jay all on the same show. Then after that it was Rihanna that was one of my favorite half times yehows. Ever, then Usher he is an absolute amazing hit hit maker. And then Kendrick Lamar after the huge year he had with Not Like Us and winning all the Grammys. He did it last year. Now, that was Robes the previous artist under jay Z, Black Latina. Throw in Eminem for good.

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Speaker 2: Measure, right, he's the He's yes, but this is very.

00:27:08
Speaker 1: Much a hip hop a yes, pop Latina. This is very specific to music, would you agree?

00:27:14
Speaker 2: Of course?

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Speaker 1: Yes, So that was since jay Z took over. But listen to the name now that we're all there. In the nine ten years before jay Z took over. We talked about Maroon five, the Who that was in twenty ten. I believe the Who. I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: The Who's an it's an older band, I'm sure it is. You know a song, I couldn't name one, but that's I bet if I look it up, I could probably And if I heard when, I probably know one of their songs.

00:27:42
Speaker 1: Well, I say this, The Who doesn't speak to me. I've heard of him. I pretty sure they're big and legendary, but doesn't speak to me. I ain't mad. Let's move on. Is that okay? Is that what's supposed to happen? Roles is that I that the music should be made for the majority. The music should be there for the majority of the people who are listening who might be of that? Of it?

00:28:09
Speaker 2: God, I hope not. That's terrible. That's terrible. That's not what artistry is. It's not about just seeing people listening to people watching people who look like you, sound like you, feel like you, think like you. That is not what art is about.

00:28:23
Speaker 1: You just describe cable news, right, That's what we do.

00:28:26
Speaker 2: People want their ideology reinforced and validated. But the reality is, how cool is it that we can all listen to people who come from different walks of life, who don't look like us, who don't sound like us, who inspire us in ways we couldn't have imagined, who get us feeling things we didn't even know we had inside us. I mean that's part of it. So, yes, if you look at before jay Z, it's the who Black Eyed Peas, Madonna, Beyonce, Bruno Mars, Katie Perry, Coldplay, Lady Gaga, justin Timberlake and then yes, Maroon five. So in that group, what you have Beyonce, and I mean Bruno Mars is a mixed back, but he's not black, so it's we went to go into a deep dive into his ethnicity to try. But anyway, anyway, you've got Beyonce.

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Speaker 1: Right, So if you look at this group the past ten artists, if you will, I guess before jay Z took over all white minus Bruno Mars, Beyonce, and I guess Black Eyed Peas have several minority artists, black artists in there. They're diverse group, even though the lead singer is a white lady Madonna was in there. Now is that list? I will? I really I asked this sincerely, does anyone who's complaining about bad Bunny, would they have any problem with that list? Oh god, no, you think so. I don't Beyonce as well.

00:29:44
Speaker 2: I don't think so, just because she is such a She is such a like just a juggernaut of a star with amazing music.

00:29:51
Speaker 1: But you go from a group it was eighty percent white in the decade before jay Z took over, and it's been one excuse me, niney nine point nine eminem eminema, but all diverse, all hip hop, all Latina, all black. So what I actually do believe? Babe? It should be more split, It should be more diverse. It should be it should alternate even to see it's.

00:30:20
Speaker 2: Probably making up for lost time.

00:30:22
Speaker 1: I to your point. I get that, But isn't this what happens robes. Yes, we've worked at a bunch of places, and when I had mostly white bosses, it was reflected in the people who got promotions, who got on air, all kinds of this is what happens. Jay Z is there now. Yes, he is picking folks who are from his realm, from his world, who are also huge international artists. These names here are the biggest names you will ever hear in music, who are minorities, Yes, the biggest. What's the problem with him? Bad bunnies, the baddest dude on the planet right now.

00:30:59
Speaker 2: I have no problem with it, of course, no problem whatsoever. And really do people get this upset about a halftime show? Like your option is to not watch the NFL or turn it off during the halftime show and make sure those ratings tank. Fine, there's your power. But I just think that the hate and the vitriol and just this constant just just negative, awful energy. It's not serving anyone, it's not changing anything, it's not doing anything but bringing us down, and at worst it could be inciting more violence. That's the concern.

00:31:35
Speaker 1: And this is such an early announcement. We have so much longer to have this debate. I really really robes. We have seen things go sideways. How big is this going to get? How much is the NFL willing to stand by him? How much are they willing to deal with whatever he comes. Look, people can plain all day long, you're going to watch the super Bowl.

00:31:59
Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch this thing.

00:32:01
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna watch the super Bowl. Don't act like you're gonna stop watching the NFL. And they know that.

00:32:07
Speaker 2: I just hope that we can all find a space where we don't have to agree with people's words or comments, but we can still appreciate their art, their music. It doesn't mean that we have to hate them, cancel them. Look and if you don't want to watch, if you feel that strongly, we get that. But please, the negativity that's being put out there does nothing to help the situation. It only hurts. It only brings everybody down further.

00:32:32
Speaker 1: What's the thing you always say, even if you do react to this in a certain try this, folks. If your reaction is outrage, if your action is whatever may be, you want to go, try letting your reaction be curiosity. Wait, he spinks, he sings only in Spanish, and he's this successful. Why don't you ask a question about him? Just be curious. Go look him up, go find out about him. Play a song. You might go, oh shit, I love this guy. It's possible that you always said, who tells? Yes?

00:33:01
Speaker 2: I mean, be curious, Be curious instead of getting angry, be curious. And I just think that is such a that's just it's such a good way to deal with controversy, to deal and you know, people I get it. If you are in law enforcement, love someone in law enforcement, I can understand why you would be angry at somebody who potentially is calling out folks who are doing their job and trying to protect America and Americans. I get that. But just if we can all take a deep breath, if we all can just get curious, and if we all can just give people space to feel the way they feel, we don't have to do we all. Sometimes we can't help how we feel, but we can help how we act. We can help what we put out in the world. We can help not putting out tweets that are incendiary and and just talk about hateful and disrespectful and just terrible.

00:33:54
Speaker 1: And we have to say this any and we should have said this plenty of times throughout, but I think we did a couple of We have to have to drive to this point home. These ice agents are following orders. Of course, they are doing their jobs. They if you want to direct your disdain towards someone or the job they're doing, don't do it to these guys. They are law enforcement guys with families and good backgrounds and plenty are really really good dudes. And we know this robes. Yes, and they are putting in an impossible position right now to where they are the only faces kind of the targets in a lot of ways. So we have to have to say that we understand that people can be upset if someone has something negative to say about an ICE agent who they are literally taking fire.

00:34:40
Speaker 2: Yes, these days, and in this country, we express that through who we vote for. We express that at the polls. We encourage everyone to yes, get involved, understand and learn about what's happening in this country, and then make a choice that you can sit with, that you can live with when you get an opportunity to vote. That is how we do things in.

00:35:02
Speaker 1: America, and in America which includes Puerto Rico.

00:35:07
Speaker 2: Yes, let's end on that note. And with that, everyone, thank you for listening to us. I made roboch alongside DJ Holmes. We appreciate you and we'll talk to you real soon.