Oct. 13, 2026
UPDATE: Selma Blair Charged With Assault; Attorneys Claim She Missed Medication
Apple Podcasts 
Spotify 
Castro 
RSS Feed 54-year-old actress Selma Blair pleaded not guilty to two counts of assault for allegedly kicking a police officer and a nurse after she was removed from a Delta flight following what’s been described as a violent incident. Blair is accused of trying to open the cabin door mid-flight, and then punching one flight attendant and biting another before she was eventually restrained. Blair is facing separate federal charges for the alleged attack on the Delta crew; her attorneys claiming she missed several doses of her medication and was experiencing a severe medical emergency.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Tuesday, October 13th, and actress Selma Blair made a court appearance late last night in New York and has been charged with assault after a violent and chaotic incident aboard a flight from L.A. to New York. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and T.J. Robes. We first heard about the incident yesterday. Didn't realize she had a court appearance last night. We got some more details and whoo-hoo-hoo. What in God's name happened on that flight to her, I think, Robes, is kind of the first question to make her behave this way.
00:00:40
Speaker 2: Yes, this is not what we would expect from an actress of her caliber.
00:00:45
Speaker 1: Anybody.
00:00:46
Speaker 2: I mean, anybody. Any, yes, functioning, fully functioning human. And she is claiming that, yes, there is a medical reason why she acted the way she did, but... She had a wake of destruction in her path. I mean, this was a violent outburst that went on and on and on.
00:01:04
Speaker 1: You know, that's a good way to put it. We were almost shaking our heads and our jaws were dropping as we were reading about this incident yesterday, Robes. And it starts on the plane. And we're hearing, oh, my God, a bloody blast. Flight attendant. Oh, my goodness. Bit of flight attendant. Oh, she got pulled off. And then we hear she comes off the plane and robes all the details. And then she kicked this person. And then she repeatedly kicked this person. Then she got to the hospital and she kicked somebody else. Robes, she was out of control.
00:01:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, a nurse has an order of protection against Selma Blair. Just let that sink in. She actually has a restraining order against Selma Blair that a judge granted her. yesterday.
00:01:43
Speaker 1: Yes, this all happened last night in this court appearance in Queens. Again, the flight landed at JFK. And we should also note the charges she's facing, Robes, there could be more. Right now, this is only state and local authorities dealing with her.
00:01:54
Speaker 2: And Delta made it very clear that they do not tolerate, they have zero tolerance for anyone assaulting any crew member on their plane. And certainly there are serious, serious federal guidelines that If you are charged with assaulting a crew member of an airline, we're talking about significant prison time.
00:02:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, we looked this up yesterday, up to 20 years for this.
00:02:17
Speaker 2: For one incident against one flight attendant. Now she's got two, one of whom had to go to the hospital for their injuries. yeah, this is serious, and she's in some hot legal water.
00:02:30
Speaker 1: And it is just kind of getting started. So let's go with, at least last night, Robes, and I think you've seen these pictures last night. What a scene. It was pitch black outside last night when she was coming out of this court appearance, Robes. Cameras all over the place. Just the lights, everything in her face. She walked calmly, Robes, but I know she's right now the the criminal, if you will, in this case, but I couldn't help but, Robes, we know this woman has been through a lot, and I am not excusing or taking sides kind of a thing, but you can, Robes, feel for what we saw, just to see her with cameras in her face, and the yelling, and already when you knew she's got medication she's supposed to be taking, she travels with a service dog, all the health issues over the years. Rose, I saw that and go, I hated that scene.
00:03:19
Speaker 2: It was tough to watch. She was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 2018. And I do appreciate the fact that, yes, that's not an excuse for violent behavior, but it might explain because they're trying to offer up an explanation surrounding her diagnosis. But yes, to watch her walk with her cane and She has physical trouble. She's had trouble walking. She's been in a wheelchair at periods of time over the last near decade since she's been diagnosed with this disorder. So yeah, to see her trying to walk, and she did. She handled herself very calmly, her head held high. Look, she is an actress. I think she knows she's playing a part. Perhaps maybe that was even her head as she was being escorted to her car coming out of that courthouse. But Yeah, she took it in stride, I guess is the best way to put it.
00:04:05
Speaker 1: And yes, I just want to make clear there, Robes, we have and we've been around and followed her story really closely over the years, when she first even made the announcement about MS. So you've been rooting for her for a long time. And Robes, they made this point in court yesterday as well. She doesn't have a criminal anything on her record. Nothing at all. So this, clearly, for a 54-year-old woman, is out of character. This is not in line with who she is, and certainly they will take that into consideration.
00:04:34
Speaker 2: Yes, because on this plane, to get you up to speed, if you've somehow missed what happened on this flight from L.A. to JFK, she, according to everyone on the plane, she tried to open.
00:04:48
Speaker 1: To everyone. That's a good way to put it. This is what's being reported.
00:04:50
Speaker 2: It was in front of an entire plane. Yes. she tried to open the cabin door mid flight. Obviously the flight attendants are going to try and physically remove her from doing that. And she reportedly punched one flight attendant and then bit another, but drew blood with the punch, correct? A bloody nose, I believe. And it was described as exceptionally violent. And then the air traffic control audio, we hear the pilot calling it in to authorities back at JFK saying, we're going to need police to greet this plane.
00:05:34
Speaker 1: You know, I was struck by his, we've heard this, I guess we've listened to more air traffic control audio than we want to. Over the past year or so with so many incidents. I'm shocked. Oh, wait. Excuse me. I should say impressed. How calm these pilots are.
00:05:48
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:05:48
Speaker 1: There was chaos in the back. And he calmly relayed that we have someone bleeding. We have someone biting. And we have someone banging their head against the bulkhead. We'll see you guys at the gate.
00:05:58
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:05:58
Speaker 1: He was calm in how he relayed that. And that's what he relayed. It sounded good.
00:06:03
Speaker 2: Awful. It sounded chaotic. And so, yes, Selma Blair had to be restrained on the flight. Police did greet that flight when it landed at JFK, took her into custody when the plane landed. But reportedly, Selma Blair continued her violent streak by repeatedly kicking the Port Authority officer in the face, in the neck and the chest. And then when she got to the hospital, apparently she did the same thing to that nurse who filed charges. And actually now, yes, has a restraining order against Selma Blair.
00:06:36
Speaker 1: That part in the court, I guess this is kind of just what you do. Why was that necessary? That's fine. She thinks she might be a threat. Maybe that's because maybe it'll be some intimidation to come back and try to keep her from testifying or something like that.
00:06:47
Speaker 2: To set up a civil lawsuit.
00:06:49
Speaker 1: Maybe that part is why and why it's necessary. But still, that was kind of... I thought, listening to it in court, a restraining order? Like, how bad was this? This is probably the setup for future.
00:07:05
Speaker 2: Yes. She needed to have a police record of what happened and that it was so egregious that a judge even offered a restraining order against this actress, this Hollywood actress. But look, we heard a new explanation from her lawyers. Look, her reps initially said she did have a medical event or some sort of medical experience. But the specific explanation her lawyers gave in court was that she missed out several doses of medication. And look, she obviously has to take medication for her multiple sclerosis. Is that what they're referring to? That she missed multiple doses of a powerful medication used to manage serious neurological symptoms. So it seems like they were basically insinuating or saying that her battle with MS is a part of this battle that has ensued on the plane. I don't know how medical professionals are going to react to that or anyone else who lives with MS to say that's not an excuse, but maybe it is. I don't know.
00:08:10
Speaker 1: Well, I know the word. We're not excusing. I know what you're saying there.
00:08:15
Speaker 2: An explanation. Is it?
00:08:17
Speaker 1: She has talked over the years about being in public and how her... brain misfires, if you will, at times, if there's too much, if she's, if there's too much going on around her, she gets nervous or even talked about flying and some anxiety related to that. But babe, you can't, I don't want to be on a plane with somebody. If I need to depend on that person to take their medication or they might become violent and try to take this plane down.
00:08:42
Speaker 2: Right. That's just a risk I don't think anyone's worth or is anyone would be willing to take.
00:08:48
Speaker 1: Yeah. So what are we talking about here? That if she's off her meds for a little while, this is the result? I mean, she's little. It's like 2018. I mean, she hasn't had this type of incident since 2018 that I know of, babe. This is something else.
00:09:05
Speaker 2: Yes. And they claim she fell and hit her head on the plane as well. And that head injury also contributed to what happened on that plane. But look, again, they pointed out it was her first brush with the criminal justice system and that she didn't get on the plane intending to do any of this. And I think most people would believe that. And that that pointed to the fact that this was, in fact, a medical emergency.
00:09:30
Speaker 1: And again, Rob, we buy that. That makes sense. How do you balance that to what was violence exacted against a crew of a plane? Are they going to say, oh, she didn't take her meds.
00:09:44
Speaker 2: It's okay.
00:09:45
Speaker 1: Head on home. We'll just give you a little citation. Can you do that? Because then that's going to look like what? Favorable treatment.
00:09:53
Speaker 2: Favorable treatment for a Hollywood star. And you heard the audio. TMZ released it, I believe, of her just screaming. It sounds like something out of a horror movie.
00:10:02
Speaker 1: The way TMZ described it, you hear her screaming bloody murder. And it's just, it's not even words, right?
00:10:09
Speaker 2: No, it's just, it's like screeching, like screaming as if someone was violently stabbing her. That's what it sounds like, yes.
00:10:19
Speaker 1: So they initially, again, that was their statement initially, and they're kind of sticking to it, I guess, that it was a medical emergency and giving some more details. Delta as well said, Rose, they showed no sympathy necessarily. We don't tolerate anybody putting the safety of our passengers at risk.
00:10:36
Speaker 2: Passengers and crew members, they have to stand by the safety of their flight and their flight crew. And you've got a woman, and yes, there might be an explanation, but it doesn't excuse... what she did to those flight attendants and what she tried to do to the plane by opening a cabin door.
00:10:54
Speaker 1: Robes, I would have attacked Selma Blair if I saw her trying to open a cabin door. Robes, that is terrifying.
00:11:03
Speaker 2: That is.
00:11:03
Speaker 1: Terrifying. What drug is she missing? Robes, what is going... And I might completely not know this, babe, but she's talked about it, but I didn't think this... was possible it makes you violent.
00:11:19
Speaker 2: And she missed several pills like at what point whose responsibility is that.
00:11:24
Speaker 1: And again this could just be a terrible misunderstanding accident who knows how it came about but we need more answers but stay here we said she didn't have a criminal background but she does have a previous history of an incident on a plane and she had to be taken off that one by personnel as.
00:11:44
Speaker 2: Well Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ. Selma Blair showed up in court in New York City late last night, charged with two counts of assault. And that's for the assault that happened after the initial incident on that Delta plane headed from LA to New York City. So She's facing charges for what she's accused of doing to a police officer and a nurse. Once she was removed from the plane, we're still waiting to hear from the FBI who was investigating what happened on that plane. But we do know from her lawyers that she is going with a defense of her actions by saying she missed several doses of a powerful medication that helps with her neurological symptoms. But look, we know she was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis back in 2018. And she's talked a lot about what she has to live with and some of the physical and mental issues she deals with based on this illness.
00:12:55
Speaker 1: Um, yeah. What though, baby? you said she's talked about what you just said she has talked.
00:13:00
Speaker 2: About well she's just talked about the struggle the physical struggle the mental struggle with living with this.
00:13:05
Speaker 1: But I haven't heard this.
00:13:07
Speaker 2: I've not heard about a violent predisposition because of this and I don't know that I've ever heard that before obviously it affects your muscles it affects your brain it affects all of that people have difficulty she's been in and out of a wheelchair before so clearly it has powerful um symptoms that you have to manage through drugs and other sorts of therapy. But look, I've never seen anyone use a multiple sclerosis defense in a violent outburst, but maybe they exist.
00:13:43
Speaker 1: Maybe, maybe. We don't have a full understanding. I'm just not. We have covered a lot. We've been around. Bro, we have talked to people plenty over the years having to do with MS and Covering her story in particular, I just don't remember that part. Maybe it's possible. I'm looking at some things here briefly that said it can lead to higher irritability and anger or things like that, Robes. Irritability. We shall see. We shall find out. Obviously, she had a problem of some kind, a medical emergency. Robes, she did have, how is it a How was it ultimately described from the 2016 incident? A medical emergency? There wasn't violence involved in that one.
00:14:23
Speaker 2: Well, there was screaming, though. She was screaming. And that's the thing. That's what struck me, the similarities between these two. Yes, she wasn't described as being violent, but she was described as having basically a psychotic break. And she was screaming. And who knows, maybe she was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 2018. I don't know if she would go back. She claims it was a bad combination of alcohol and medication that she took that resulted in her having this breakdown, basically. But look, I do think it's interesting when you talk about what folks say and what they write about multiple sclerosis. The National Institutes of Health says that some patients do experience aggressive traits frustration or emotional liability as a result of multiple sclerosis. However, they say direct or violent outbursts are often tied to pre-existing personality factors or secondary stress rather than being a core symptom of the disease itself. So I do think that, look, if you look at this past incident, this previous incident in 2016, which was 10 years ago, She was screaming uncontrollably on a commercial flight. She had to be removed from the flight on a stretcher. I mean, there are similarities. Yes, she didn't punch someone. She didn't bite someone. She didn't kick someone. But it does seem like a similar outburst.
00:15:55
Speaker 1: I'm only going to add this detail because it was one that I was so impressed with yesterday. But I heard this morning that that flight in 2016 also was a Delta flight. Now, that's just a little detail added after the other detail that the Delta flight she was on coming here to New York arrived early. How is Delta slipping in little PR? It's crazy. I know it's not a big deal, but we found it to be one of the craziest details added to the story was that her plane that arrived here in New York at JFK, the Delta flight arrived early.
00:16:32
Speaker 2: I mean, that is some clever PR. They had some relationship with the writer. Hey, could you just maybe just find a way to next line, just recognize or acknowledge, just give us a nod. The flight was early.
00:16:50
Speaker 1: The flight was early. Hang on. A little nugget in there that at least made me smile on an otherwise just... horrific story and a scary one babe for those folks on that flight how many what was the flight we just seen israel right going on that that plane dropped somebody in the cockpit was trying to crash the plane robes we've had just several incidents and so if anything robes anything you hear on a flight you see anybody cutting up it's alarming it's And to watch this, and I know it's damn near impossible to open a cabin, or supposed to be at least, but I wouldn't know that in that moment.
00:17:26
Speaker 2: No.
00:17:26
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't think that. I would just say, we are going down. What the hell?
00:17:30
Speaker 2: Well, obviously it's possible if they needed to pull her off of it, if they were concerned enough to get her, like, who knows what she could have done. Yes, I imagined being... In the cabin and watching this all take place and watching her hit and bite. Like that is frightening to think also is your plane going to be diverted or now you're going to have to land somewhere else. Like this is frightening.
00:17:51
Speaker 1: But don't worry, it's Delta. It gets you there early.
00:17:57
Speaker 2: Everybody arrived safely and ahead of schedule. There's at least that positive note that we can end on, but we'll keep our eye on this. Again, more charges are expected. this time federal charges potentially against Selma Blair will follow this story. But we always appreciate you listening to us, everyone. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Tuesday, October 13th, and actress Selma Blair made a court appearance late last night in New York and has been charged with assault after a violent and chaotic incident aboard a flight from L.A. to New York. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and T.J. Robes. We first heard about the incident yesterday. Didn't realize she had a court appearance last night. We got some more details and whoo-hoo-hoo. What in God's name happened on that flight to her, I think, Robes, is kind of the first question to make her behave this way.
00:00:40
Speaker 2: Yes, this is not what we would expect from an actress of her caliber.
00:00:45
Speaker 1: Anybody.
00:00:46
Speaker 2: I mean, anybody. Any, yes, functioning, fully functioning human. And she is claiming that, yes, there is a medical reason why she acted the way she did, but... She had a wake of destruction in her path. I mean, this was a violent outburst that went on and on and on.
00:01:04
Speaker 1: You know, that's a good way to put it. We were almost shaking our heads and our jaws were dropping as we were reading about this incident yesterday, Robes. And it starts on the plane. And we're hearing, oh, my God, a bloody blast. Flight attendant. Oh, my goodness. Bit of flight attendant. Oh, she got pulled off. And then we hear she comes off the plane and robes all the details. And then she kicked this person. And then she repeatedly kicked this person. Then she got to the hospital and she kicked somebody else. Robes, she was out of control.
00:01:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, a nurse has an order of protection against Selma Blair. Just let that sink in. She actually has a restraining order against Selma Blair that a judge granted her. yesterday.
00:01:43
Speaker 1: Yes, this all happened last night in this court appearance in Queens. Again, the flight landed at JFK. And we should also note the charges she's facing, Robes, there could be more. Right now, this is only state and local authorities dealing with her.
00:01:54
Speaker 2: And Delta made it very clear that they do not tolerate, they have zero tolerance for anyone assaulting any crew member on their plane. And certainly there are serious, serious federal guidelines that If you are charged with assaulting a crew member of an airline, we're talking about significant prison time.
00:02:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, we looked this up yesterday, up to 20 years for this.
00:02:17
Speaker 2: For one incident against one flight attendant. Now she's got two, one of whom had to go to the hospital for their injuries. yeah, this is serious, and she's in some hot legal water.
00:02:30
Speaker 1: And it is just kind of getting started. So let's go with, at least last night, Robes, and I think you've seen these pictures last night. What a scene. It was pitch black outside last night when she was coming out of this court appearance, Robes. Cameras all over the place. Just the lights, everything in her face. She walked calmly, Robes, but I know she's right now the the criminal, if you will, in this case, but I couldn't help but, Robes, we know this woman has been through a lot, and I am not excusing or taking sides kind of a thing, but you can, Robes, feel for what we saw, just to see her with cameras in her face, and the yelling, and already when you knew she's got medication she's supposed to be taking, she travels with a service dog, all the health issues over the years. Rose, I saw that and go, I hated that scene.
00:03:19
Speaker 2: It was tough to watch. She was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 2018. And I do appreciate the fact that, yes, that's not an excuse for violent behavior, but it might explain because they're trying to offer up an explanation surrounding her diagnosis. But yes, to watch her walk with her cane and She has physical trouble. She's had trouble walking. She's been in a wheelchair at periods of time over the last near decade since she's been diagnosed with this disorder. So yeah, to see her trying to walk, and she did. She handled herself very calmly, her head held high. Look, she is an actress. I think she knows she's playing a part. Perhaps maybe that was even her head as she was being escorted to her car coming out of that courthouse. But Yeah, she took it in stride, I guess is the best way to put it.
00:04:05
Speaker 1: And yes, I just want to make clear there, Robes, we have and we've been around and followed her story really closely over the years, when she first even made the announcement about MS. So you've been rooting for her for a long time. And Robes, they made this point in court yesterday as well. She doesn't have a criminal anything on her record. Nothing at all. So this, clearly, for a 54-year-old woman, is out of character. This is not in line with who she is, and certainly they will take that into consideration.
00:04:34
Speaker 2: Yes, because on this plane, to get you up to speed, if you've somehow missed what happened on this flight from L.A. to JFK, she, according to everyone on the plane, she tried to open.
00:04:48
Speaker 1: To everyone. That's a good way to put it. This is what's being reported.
00:04:50
Speaker 2: It was in front of an entire plane. Yes. she tried to open the cabin door mid flight. Obviously the flight attendants are going to try and physically remove her from doing that. And she reportedly punched one flight attendant and then bit another, but drew blood with the punch, correct? A bloody nose, I believe. And it was described as exceptionally violent. And then the air traffic control audio, we hear the pilot calling it in to authorities back at JFK saying, we're going to need police to greet this plane.
00:05:34
Speaker 1: You know, I was struck by his, we've heard this, I guess we've listened to more air traffic control audio than we want to. Over the past year or so with so many incidents. I'm shocked. Oh, wait. Excuse me. I should say impressed. How calm these pilots are.
00:05:48
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:05:48
Speaker 1: There was chaos in the back. And he calmly relayed that we have someone bleeding. We have someone biting. And we have someone banging their head against the bulkhead. We'll see you guys at the gate.
00:05:58
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:05:58
Speaker 1: He was calm in how he relayed that. And that's what he relayed. It sounded good.
00:06:03
Speaker 2: Awful. It sounded chaotic. And so, yes, Selma Blair had to be restrained on the flight. Police did greet that flight when it landed at JFK, took her into custody when the plane landed. But reportedly, Selma Blair continued her violent streak by repeatedly kicking the Port Authority officer in the face, in the neck and the chest. And then when she got to the hospital, apparently she did the same thing to that nurse who filed charges. And actually now, yes, has a restraining order against Selma Blair.
00:06:36
Speaker 1: That part in the court, I guess this is kind of just what you do. Why was that necessary? That's fine. She thinks she might be a threat. Maybe that's because maybe it'll be some intimidation to come back and try to keep her from testifying or something like that.
00:06:47
Speaker 2: To set up a civil lawsuit.
00:06:49
Speaker 1: Maybe that part is why and why it's necessary. But still, that was kind of... I thought, listening to it in court, a restraining order? Like, how bad was this? This is probably the setup for future.
00:07:05
Speaker 2: Yes. She needed to have a police record of what happened and that it was so egregious that a judge even offered a restraining order against this actress, this Hollywood actress. But look, we heard a new explanation from her lawyers. Look, her reps initially said she did have a medical event or some sort of medical experience. But the specific explanation her lawyers gave in court was that she missed out several doses of medication. And look, she obviously has to take medication for her multiple sclerosis. Is that what they're referring to? That she missed multiple doses of a powerful medication used to manage serious neurological symptoms. So it seems like they were basically insinuating or saying that her battle with MS is a part of this battle that has ensued on the plane. I don't know how medical professionals are going to react to that or anyone else who lives with MS to say that's not an excuse, but maybe it is. I don't know.
00:08:10
Speaker 1: Well, I know the word. We're not excusing. I know what you're saying there.
00:08:15
Speaker 2: An explanation. Is it?
00:08:17
Speaker 1: She has talked over the years about being in public and how her... brain misfires, if you will, at times, if there's too much, if she's, if there's too much going on around her, she gets nervous or even talked about flying and some anxiety related to that. But babe, you can't, I don't want to be on a plane with somebody. If I need to depend on that person to take their medication or they might become violent and try to take this plane down.
00:08:42
Speaker 2: Right. That's just a risk I don't think anyone's worth or is anyone would be willing to take.
00:08:48
Speaker 1: Yeah. So what are we talking about here? That if she's off her meds for a little while, this is the result? I mean, she's little. It's like 2018. I mean, she hasn't had this type of incident since 2018 that I know of, babe. This is something else.
00:09:05
Speaker 2: Yes. And they claim she fell and hit her head on the plane as well. And that head injury also contributed to what happened on that plane. But look, again, they pointed out it was her first brush with the criminal justice system and that she didn't get on the plane intending to do any of this. And I think most people would believe that. And that that pointed to the fact that this was, in fact, a medical emergency.
00:09:30
Speaker 1: And again, Rob, we buy that. That makes sense. How do you balance that to what was violence exacted against a crew of a plane? Are they going to say, oh, she didn't take her meds.
00:09:44
Speaker 2: It's okay.
00:09:45
Speaker 1: Head on home. We'll just give you a little citation. Can you do that? Because then that's going to look like what? Favorable treatment.
00:09:53
Speaker 2: Favorable treatment for a Hollywood star. And you heard the audio. TMZ released it, I believe, of her just screaming. It sounds like something out of a horror movie.
00:10:02
Speaker 1: The way TMZ described it, you hear her screaming bloody murder. And it's just, it's not even words, right?
00:10:09
Speaker 2: No, it's just, it's like screeching, like screaming as if someone was violently stabbing her. That's what it sounds like, yes.
00:10:19
Speaker 1: So they initially, again, that was their statement initially, and they're kind of sticking to it, I guess, that it was a medical emergency and giving some more details. Delta as well said, Rose, they showed no sympathy necessarily. We don't tolerate anybody putting the safety of our passengers at risk.
00:10:36
Speaker 2: Passengers and crew members, they have to stand by the safety of their flight and their flight crew. And you've got a woman, and yes, there might be an explanation, but it doesn't excuse... what she did to those flight attendants and what she tried to do to the plane by opening a cabin door.
00:10:54
Speaker 1: Robes, I would have attacked Selma Blair if I saw her trying to open a cabin door. Robes, that is terrifying.
00:11:03
Speaker 2: That is.
00:11:03
Speaker 1: Terrifying. What drug is she missing? Robes, what is going... And I might completely not know this, babe, but she's talked about it, but I didn't think this... was possible it makes you violent.
00:11:19
Speaker 2: And she missed several pills like at what point whose responsibility is that.
00:11:24
Speaker 1: And again this could just be a terrible misunderstanding accident who knows how it came about but we need more answers but stay here we said she didn't have a criminal background but she does have a previous history of an incident on a plane and she had to be taken off that one by personnel as.
00:11:44
Speaker 2: Well Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ. Selma Blair showed up in court in New York City late last night, charged with two counts of assault. And that's for the assault that happened after the initial incident on that Delta plane headed from LA to New York City. So She's facing charges for what she's accused of doing to a police officer and a nurse. Once she was removed from the plane, we're still waiting to hear from the FBI who was investigating what happened on that plane. But we do know from her lawyers that she is going with a defense of her actions by saying she missed several doses of a powerful medication that helps with her neurological symptoms. But look, we know she was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis back in 2018. And she's talked a lot about what she has to live with and some of the physical and mental issues she deals with based on this illness.
00:12:55
Speaker 1: Um, yeah. What though, baby? you said she's talked about what you just said she has talked.
00:13:00
Speaker 2: About well she's just talked about the struggle the physical struggle the mental struggle with living with this.
00:13:05
Speaker 1: But I haven't heard this.
00:13:07
Speaker 2: I've not heard about a violent predisposition because of this and I don't know that I've ever heard that before obviously it affects your muscles it affects your brain it affects all of that people have difficulty she's been in and out of a wheelchair before so clearly it has powerful um symptoms that you have to manage through drugs and other sorts of therapy. But look, I've never seen anyone use a multiple sclerosis defense in a violent outburst, but maybe they exist.
00:13:43
Speaker 1: Maybe, maybe. We don't have a full understanding. I'm just not. We have covered a lot. We've been around. Bro, we have talked to people plenty over the years having to do with MS and Covering her story in particular, I just don't remember that part. Maybe it's possible. I'm looking at some things here briefly that said it can lead to higher irritability and anger or things like that, Robes. Irritability. We shall see. We shall find out. Obviously, she had a problem of some kind, a medical emergency. Robes, she did have, how is it a How was it ultimately described from the 2016 incident? A medical emergency? There wasn't violence involved in that one.
00:14:23
Speaker 2: Well, there was screaming, though. She was screaming. And that's the thing. That's what struck me, the similarities between these two. Yes, she wasn't described as being violent, but she was described as having basically a psychotic break. And she was screaming. And who knows, maybe she was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 2018. I don't know if she would go back. She claims it was a bad combination of alcohol and medication that she took that resulted in her having this breakdown, basically. But look, I do think it's interesting when you talk about what folks say and what they write about multiple sclerosis. The National Institutes of Health says that some patients do experience aggressive traits frustration or emotional liability as a result of multiple sclerosis. However, they say direct or violent outbursts are often tied to pre-existing personality factors or secondary stress rather than being a core symptom of the disease itself. So I do think that, look, if you look at this past incident, this previous incident in 2016, which was 10 years ago, She was screaming uncontrollably on a commercial flight. She had to be removed from the flight on a stretcher. I mean, there are similarities. Yes, she didn't punch someone. She didn't bite someone. She didn't kick someone. But it does seem like a similar outburst.
00:15:55
Speaker 1: I'm only going to add this detail because it was one that I was so impressed with yesterday. But I heard this morning that that flight in 2016 also was a Delta flight. Now, that's just a little detail added after the other detail that the Delta flight she was on coming here to New York arrived early. How is Delta slipping in little PR? It's crazy. I know it's not a big deal, but we found it to be one of the craziest details added to the story was that her plane that arrived here in New York at JFK, the Delta flight arrived early.
00:16:32
Speaker 2: I mean, that is some clever PR. They had some relationship with the writer. Hey, could you just maybe just find a way to next line, just recognize or acknowledge, just give us a nod. The flight was early.
00:16:50
Speaker 1: The flight was early. Hang on. A little nugget in there that at least made me smile on an otherwise just... horrific story and a scary one babe for those folks on that flight how many what was the flight we just seen israel right going on that that plane dropped somebody in the cockpit was trying to crash the plane robes we've had just several incidents and so if anything robes anything you hear on a flight you see anybody cutting up it's alarming it's And to watch this, and I know it's damn near impossible to open a cabin, or supposed to be at least, but I wouldn't know that in that moment.
00:17:26
Speaker 2: No.
00:17:26
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't think that. I would just say, we are going down. What the hell?
00:17:30
Speaker 2: Well, obviously it's possible if they needed to pull her off of it, if they were concerned enough to get her, like, who knows what she could have done. Yes, I imagined being... In the cabin and watching this all take place and watching her hit and bite. Like that is frightening to think also is your plane going to be diverted or now you're going to have to land somewhere else. Like this is frightening.
00:17:51
Speaker 1: But don't worry, it's Delta. It gets you there early.
00:17:57
Speaker 2: Everybody arrived safely and ahead of schedule. There's at least that positive note that we can end on, but we'll keep our eye on this. Again, more charges are expected. this time federal charges potentially against Selma Blair will follow this story. But we always appreciate you listening to us, everyone. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes. We'll talk soon.