Oct. 6, 2026
(Tuesday) Morning Run: Cryin’ Caleb Sentenced, Plague Probe, Scandalous Evangelist Dead, Christa Pike Update, TX Execution Next, WH to Fox News, & MORE!
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Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ.
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Speaker 2: An iHeartRadio podcast.
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Speaker 3: Hey there, everybody, and welcome to Morning Run.
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Speaker 2: It's a big day in our family. It's Tuesday, October 6th. It's my brother Eric's birthday, and it's your dad T's birthday.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Happy birthday.
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Speaker 1: Happy birthday to the fellas. Isn't that a coincidence, my dad? Your brother happened to have the same birthday. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's a good day.
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Speaker 1: It's a good day. Hello to you all. This is October 6th. I'm TJ Holmes. And did you hear who the president has gone and pissed off now? San Diego and L.A. You're going to see this everywhere today, folks. And even in fact, as we're recording this, San Diego is the number one trend on next right now because people believe the president said something which he suggested he was OK with. With Iran blowing up those two cities.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, taking out Los Angeles and San Diego. And yes, all of the political leaders of aforementioned cities have spoken out and spoken up very loudly on Twitter and other social media platforms. It's an opportunity for us to band together against the president.
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Speaker 2: Look, it was a poor choice of wording there.
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Speaker 3: And I think if you really analyze what he said, he wasn't actually suggesting or tempting Iran to take out those two cities. He was making a point, but it was poorly worded.
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Speaker 1: Yes, you're right. And I think that is fair. We have no problem saying otherwise. But this is one where I think, yes, some people have taken it and taken his words and taken a particular quote. And he did. It was so inarticulate, the way he put it. It just wasn't elegant.
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Speaker 2: I also think he chose those two cities. He was in Nebraska. He was.
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Speaker 3: In a like-minded, safe crowd. And yes, those are two liberal-leaning cities.
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Speaker 1: I thought he was just pointing out West Coast cities, and those were the first two that came to mind.
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Speaker 3: I feel like he in L.A., and obviously those aren't his friends.
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Speaker 2: They didn't vote for him. So I do think that he did choose cities that would rally up against him. So that was perhaps not a good decision on his part.
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Speaker 1: Either way, you're going to see people going back and forth about that this morning. But we'll be making other stops besides San Diego and L.A. this morning on the morning run. We'll make stops in Ohio. We'll make a stop in Ithaca, New York. Fort Hood, Texas. We'll make a stop at a Russian lab. We'll make a stop at the Coca-Cola lab. Also Nashville and the Fox News newsroom. But let's start with Cryin' Caleb.
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, yes. Cryin' Caleb is certainly.
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Speaker 3: A trend, I would say, because we've seen the former American Idol contestant sobbing in court for weeks now. But once again, after he was learning his fate, he was convicted for killing his wife, and he had sentencing day yesterday. And yes, it was a tear-filled and powerful sentencing hearing for Caleb Flynn, who learned he is going to prison for the rest of his life. But that, we would argue, was not the most difficult thing for him to hear in court.
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Speaker 1: As was a part of this story of this trial, his daughters were reportedly very close by when he shot his wife, their mother, and robes those two girls, 10 and 12. As it was set up yesterday, they were not in court, but their uncle read letters that they wrote, not to the court, but directly to their dad. And this was devastating stuff to hear girls in their 10 and 12-year-old colloquialisms tell this man he needs to repent, he needs to confess. what did she do to make you hate her so much? They had some very poignant, powerful, direct words. And the oldest even started her letter by calling him Caleb and then signing off by saying, I do not plan to come see you. Yes. It was tough.
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Speaker 3: And then signed her full name, Alyssa Flynn. And it was of note, his 10-year-old, still just that difference in age, Ava, she said, dear daddy. And she said, love Ava at the end. But she too implored him, said she prayed for him every single night to tell the truth and to repent to God. Now, you might argue that was the harshest thing he could have heard, but he did receive the harshest sentence possible from the judge, life without the possibility of parole, plus an additional 16 years he must serve before that life sentence even takes hold.
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Speaker 1: All right, we'll continue on this run now. And Robes, I don't know about you, but whenever I hear the government say, At this time, there's no risk to the general population. My ears perk up and I get a little bit nervous. That's fair, right?
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Speaker 3: Yes, I think especially after the pandemic, we all perhaps feel a little PTSD from that. And yes, when you start talking about labs and virologists, yes, that also makes one nervous.
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Speaker 2: Get a little nervous.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they start using words like plague. Well, yes, the U.S. is monitoring developments out of a lab in Russia where a worker has died, possibly of pneumonic plague. This worker is a 28-year-old woman. She studied plague, didn't know it was going on, quite frankly, at this particular lab here in Russia, and she suddenly fell ill and died on Friday.
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Speaker 2: Suddenly fell ill. This is scary stuff.
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Speaker 3: And yes, Russian officials say she died of pneumonia of undetermined origin. But she worked in a lab studying the plague. All right, about 200 people work in that lab. They've now been put under precautionary observation, but nothing to.
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Speaker 2: See here, folks.
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Speaker 1: The one that's scary, I'm used to bubonic plague, right? We know that one. These things have caused pandemics before. Caused by bacteria, but Robes, they say the pneumonic one is the rarest. But you can be treated, but you have to catch it really quickly or it's going to kill you really quickly.
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Speaker 2: Thus, she suddenly died.
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Speaker 1: Right. And so the scary part is whatever she had, they don't know if it was something that was naturally occurring that they were studying or something that was cooked up.
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Speaker 3: This is frightening stuff because you think about China labs, Russian labs, These aren't exactly countries where you can trust the information coming out of. So, you know, they can tell us that they've got it all under control, but do they?
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Speaker 2: We won't know.
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Speaker 1: You just made me laugh. These places now you can't trust the information coming out of.
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Speaker 2: That's hilarious, including the White House.
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Speaker 1: We didn't used to be that, though, right?
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Speaker 2: You're right. Now when the president says something, we can't just accept it as fact.
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Speaker 1: Gotta get a second source.
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Speaker 2: Or a third.
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Speaker 3: All right, next up on the run, as Krista Pike clings to life at the hospital after last week's botched execution, some are already talking about the new ways to kill her. Pike, of course, survived her execution last week after being given what should have been deadly doses of pentobarbital. Two they gave her, neither one actually worked. It appears that that lethal dose went into her arm tissue rather than into her vein.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're told she has not regained consciousness. She has since been in the hospital on a ventilator. Now, Tennessee Republicans, including Senator Marsha Blackburn, are coming forward. She said in an interview with the Associated Press that the botched execution, and I quote, should not be grounds to halt carrying out the death penalty. It's lethal if it's lethal injection, if it's the electric chair. What we do know is we have to find a way to do this and do it successfully.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: The statehouse speaker said, I don't think there's any method that's off the table at this point. And the statehouse majority leader said he was in favor of making electrocution the state's primary method of execution.
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Speaker 1: Pike's attorneys, as we know, they are asking for the governor to commute her sentence now, to do it now and just end any of this discussion. But I am I know they have to fix the problem, but I just didn't realize anybody would have on their mind.
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Speaker 2: Bring back the electric chair?
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Speaker 1: Well, fixing the problem so we can kill her still. I didn't know anybody had on their mind that we're looking for ways or how we're going to kill her later. I didn't know the conversation was turning to that at all yet.
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Speaker 2: Meantime, she's on a ventilator.
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Speaker 1: She's on a ventilator.
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Speaker 2: She's in the middle of life-saving procedures right now.
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Speaker 1: Yes, trying to save the woman we tried to kill a few days ago.
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Speaker 3: And then trying to figure out how to kill her again, even though if you just took her off the ventilator.
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Speaker 2: She would die. This makes no sense. All right, next up on the.
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Speaker 3: Run, Texas is scheduled to carry out an execution tomorrow night using the exact same method of execution that was used on Krista Pike. So Jamal Howard was convicted for shooting and killing Vicki Swarthout, a convenience store clerk. That crime took place many, many years ago, back in the year 2000.
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Speaker 1: Now, his supporters are trying to spare his life, saying he has intellectual disabilities that should be factored in. He's scheduled to die by lethal injection 6 p.m. tomorrow night, seventh execution of the year for Tennessee. For Texas, you mean. Do you know what I just said?
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Speaker 2: Tennessee.
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Speaker 1: Texas, because I was about to turn and start talking about Tennessee, because these two states, Texas and Tennessee, use that same method. Some use a three-drug cocktail. They use one, the pentobarbital, so Robes, we just saw a botched one last Wednesday. And so this Wednesday, another execution of the same type is supposed to take place.
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Speaker 3: A different state who has proven they've been able to do it successfully.
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Speaker 2: Six times beforehand, Tennessee... has not had that same success rate. So we shall see what happens tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: But in the meantime, next up on the run, President Trump has approved a firing squad execution. This would be the first execution carried out by the U.S. military in more than 50 years. Remember Army Major Nidal Malik Hassan? He was found guilty, sentenced to death for that 2009 mass shooting at Fort Hood, Texas.
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Speaker 1: He killed 13, wounded another 30. No execution date set here, but It's just of note, Robes, he'd be the first person executed by the military since 1961, and the method back then was hanging.
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Speaker 3: Wow, and did I see that there was actually a timeline on this? They need to do it, they have to wait at least 60 days, but they have to have it done within 150 days, so... It looks like this execution, if it goes forward in the method President Trump has approved, we shall see it sooner rather than later. All right, next up on the run, faculty members at Cornell University have put the administration on notice. They plan a vote of no confidence over how the university has handled the investigation into this gang rape on campus back in 2024.
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Speaker 2: So the vote, yes, what does it do? It's mostly symbolic.
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Speaker 3: But it adds to the increasing pressure on the school's president, who's been facing protests from students and a lot of questions.
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Speaker 2: Over the school's response.
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Speaker 1: Of course, that former student filed a lawsuit against the school and seven members of a fraternity. She says she was drugged and gang raped for several hours. Though Cornell disciplined the accused, the district attorney refused to bring criminal charges. That's the heart of a lot of the controversy now. And so the governor of New York has appointed New York Attorney General Letitia James appointed as the special prosecutor, so a criminal investigation is currently underway.
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Speaker 3: All right, next up on the run, multiple media outlets are reporting that the Omani-born co-pilot who tried to hijack that plane last week has had an intended target. It was Israel's airport near Tel Aviv.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Israel's main airport. The investigation underway to figure out how the pilot, who had been flagged previously for security concerns, was allowed to fly for Fly Dubai Airline on a route going from Dubai to Israel. The co-pilot, of course, attacked the pilot shortly after the flight took off. Passengers were able to overtake him, and off-duty pilots were able to safely land that plane. What was they even say? The, um, they're looking into how the Israeli government, the military, missed this. They screen everybody coming into that country. Yes, particular pilots who are flying.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's obviously known as one of the most secure airports and certainly countries in the world in terms of what the Israeli military does before, during, and after anything surrounding a plane or people coming into their country.
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Speaker 2: So This is a massive miss.
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Speaker 1: Another airline wouldn't let him in the cockpit. They kept him in like an administrative role because he was flagged. Rose, this is remarkable. Well, stay with us here on this Tuesday morning run. When we come back, he was one of the most successful, famous, and yes, controversial TV evangelists of all time. He has passed away. We'll tell you about that. Also coming up, leave the White House, go to Fox News. Makes perfect sense. Someone else has done that now. And Coca-Cola has announced new flavors. Very curious to hear what you think about them.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everyone, to your Tuesday morning run. And, yes, news that televangelist Jim Baker has died at the age of 86. Of course, he was one of the most successful, famous, and scandalous TV evangelists of all time. Baker and his unforgettable wife, Tammy Faye, preached prosperity and built.
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Speaker 2: An empire until... Yeah. It was brought down by Scant.
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Speaker 1: No, I was stopping there. I was reading up and whatnot on this and some of the history. Robes, they were bringing in like $ 130 million a year. They were rolling in cash, and they preached that this opulence, this over-the-top, this too is what you can have.
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Speaker 2: What was God smiling on you?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: They just got to believe enough. You got to pray enough. You got to be faithful enough. And they built an empire on that. Yes. It was brought down. There was accusations of sexual assault. Financial crimes is what he eventually went to prison for for five years, I do believe. But this was an unforgettable duo.
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Speaker 3: And he was preaching, by the way, up until his death or shortly until he, I suffered a stroke, I believe, in 2020. But if you look up his wife, Lori Baker, his second wife after Tammy Faye, there is a striking resemblance.
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Speaker 2: He had a type.
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Speaker 1: The picture you showed me I'd seen earlier this morning, I thought.
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Speaker 3: It was Tammy Faye. It was a little wild. I had to do a double take. Like, wait, that's his second wife?
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: It's worth a look up. She looks so much like Tammy Faye Baker. My goodness.
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Speaker 1: Nobody can beat Tammy Faye.
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Speaker 2: Nobody can beat Tammy Faye. All right. Next up on the run, the White House to Fox News pipeline continues.
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Speaker 3: Not much of a shocker to hear former White House Press Secretary Carolyn Leavitt.
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Speaker 2: Has joined Fox News?
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Speaker 3: Yes. No. No. She served as Trump's press secretary, of course, until August when she was stepping away, she said, to spend more time being a new mom. Apparently being a journalist doesn't take up too much of your time.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't. It's not. They're going to build her a studio in her house probably.
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Speaker 2: That's true. And she's not a journalist, by the way.
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Speaker 3: I should make that very clear. She's going to be an analyst. And there is a specific distinction between the two. Yes, she's going to be an on-air contributor starting November 1st.
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Speaker 1: And you just go through the list. It's hard to keep naming the back and forth. He plucks people from Fox News to work in the administration. Fox News plucks people from the White House to work on the air.
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Speaker 2: Hegseth might be one of the biggest folks.
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Speaker 1: It just goes on and on and on. What's Conway? Kellyanne Conway. We just saw her.
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Speaker 2: We were just watching her on Fox News.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes.
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Speaker 2: All right. I love this story.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 2: It's exciting.
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Speaker 1: About Coca-Cola flavors?
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Speaker 2: Yes, because I just saw a flavor that just made me so excited.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 2: I need a diet version of it.
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Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead.
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Speaker 3: For the final leg of our run, Coca-Cola announcing the new flavors of It's going to be releasing next year.
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Speaker 2: We want to get your take on some of these. First one is the one that is speaking my language.
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Speaker 1: Oh, this is the one. Okay, I can see that.
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Speaker 2: I love a Coca-Cola Cherry Lime. I love Cherry Lime. You know, that's my favorite LaCroix flavor. It's Cherry Lime.
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Speaker 1: Did they used to have a Coca-Cola just cherry?
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: And they have a lime.
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Speaker 3: So I would love to go to those machines where you can pick, you can mix.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's so fun.
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Speaker 1: You ever been to the Coca-Cola factory in Atlanta?
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Speaker 2: One of my favorite places ever.
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Speaker 3: I used to love taking the girls there because I enjoyed going. Yes.
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Speaker 1: And tasting all those weird Cokes from all around the world.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Man, we just went off the rails there. We'd love some Coke. We don't have any Coca-Cola products in this house.
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Speaker 2: Diet Coke.
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Speaker 1: We do? Yes. Oh, y'all, the girls.
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Speaker 2: I love Diet Coke.
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Speaker 1: The girls drinking that stuff.
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Speaker 2: I have like one a week.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Anyway, Coca-Cola Cherry Lime. They describe it this way. They say it builds on the popularity of cherry among young consumers, blending the classic cherry flavor consumers know with a bright lime twist. The other one, what do you think about it? The other one they're releasing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I'm not a big vanilla person, so Coca-Cola Strawberry Float.
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Speaker 2: It could be good. I'd be willing to try it. Again, I'd need a diet version of this. I don't like things too sweet. But it blends.
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Speaker 3: Coca-Cola with strawberry and creamy vanilla flavors for a nostalgic flavor.
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Speaker 2: I like a root beer float. I don't know that I've ever had a strawberry float.
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Speaker 1: Okay. On the last one here, what's with the prebiotic thing? You have to explain this to me. Why would this appeal to people?
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Speaker 2: It's like theâ why can't I think of the name of it? It'sâ oh, my God.
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Speaker 1: What? I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Prebiotic. What's the appeal of prebiotic?
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Speaker 2: Kombucha, right?
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Speaker 1: Kombucha, okay.
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Speaker 2: It's like kombucha. It's got growth. It's for gut health, that kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: So I say that because they are launching a regional prebiotic test and learn campaign this month to see how consumers might like Coca-Cola Zero Sugar and Sprite Zero Sugar, which are described as having six grams of prebiotic fiber.
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Speaker 2: Oh, okay. So it's different. It's not like kombucha. It's not like any sort of.
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Speaker 1: It's soda with that stuff.
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Speaker 2: Fermented anything. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It's just got prebiotic fiber. I really don't know what that does, but I would try it. Coca-Cola zero sugar with prebiotic fiber. Okay.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's coming in 2027.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't sound as good as Coca-Cola cherry lime. All right.
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Speaker 3: For your quote of the day on this Tuesday, 80 summers is easily the most insane way to describe how short your life is.
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Speaker 2: So live. We only have 80 summers if we're lucky.
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Speaker 3: I thought that was a good quote to think about as two people who we love.
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Speaker 2: Are celebrating a birthday. It's always a good reminder. Enjoy the day. Enjoy your life. Enjoy the time you have. We only have 80 summers if we're lucky.
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Speaker 1: What do you think your brother's doing today?
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Speaker 2: Working. He's a roebuck. This is what we do. Yes, and he has patients who... rely on him so I.
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Speaker 3: Doubt he is taking the day off from his practice. But happy birthday, Eric. Happy birthday, T.
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Speaker 2: Love you. And thank you, everyone, for listening to us. I'm Amy Roebuck.
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Speaker 1: And I'm TJ Holmes. Always appreciate you running with us.
Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ.
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Speaker 2: An iHeartRadio podcast.
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Speaker 3: Hey there, everybody, and welcome to Morning Run.
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Speaker 2: It's a big day in our family. It's Tuesday, October 6th. It's my brother Eric's birthday, and it's your dad T's birthday.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Happy birthday.
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Speaker 1: Happy birthday to the fellas. Isn't that a coincidence, my dad? Your brother happened to have the same birthday. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's a good day.
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Speaker 1: It's a good day. Hello to you all. This is October 6th. I'm TJ Holmes. And did you hear who the president has gone and pissed off now? San Diego and L.A. You're going to see this everywhere today, folks. And even in fact, as we're recording this, San Diego is the number one trend on next right now because people believe the president said something which he suggested he was OK with. With Iran blowing up those two cities.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, taking out Los Angeles and San Diego. And yes, all of the political leaders of aforementioned cities have spoken out and spoken up very loudly on Twitter and other social media platforms. It's an opportunity for us to band together against the president.
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Speaker 2: Look, it was a poor choice of wording there.
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Speaker 3: And I think if you really analyze what he said, he wasn't actually suggesting or tempting Iran to take out those two cities. He was making a point, but it was poorly worded.
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Speaker 1: Yes, you're right. And I think that is fair. We have no problem saying otherwise. But this is one where I think, yes, some people have taken it and taken his words and taken a particular quote. And he did. It was so inarticulate, the way he put it. It just wasn't elegant.
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Speaker 2: I also think he chose those two cities. He was in Nebraska. He was.
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Speaker 3: In a like-minded, safe crowd. And yes, those are two liberal-leaning cities.
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Speaker 1: I thought he was just pointing out West Coast cities, and those were the first two that came to mind.
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Speaker 3: I feel like he in L.A., and obviously those aren't his friends.
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Speaker 2: They didn't vote for him. So I do think that he did choose cities that would rally up against him. So that was perhaps not a good decision on his part.
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Speaker 1: Either way, you're going to see people going back and forth about that this morning. But we'll be making other stops besides San Diego and L.A. this morning on the morning run. We'll make stops in Ohio. We'll make a stop in Ithaca, New York. Fort Hood, Texas. We'll make a stop at a Russian lab. We'll make a stop at the Coca-Cola lab. Also Nashville and the Fox News newsroom. But let's start with Cryin' Caleb.
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, yes. Cryin' Caleb is certainly.
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Speaker 3: A trend, I would say, because we've seen the former American Idol contestant sobbing in court for weeks now. But once again, after he was learning his fate, he was convicted for killing his wife, and he had sentencing day yesterday. And yes, it was a tear-filled and powerful sentencing hearing for Caleb Flynn, who learned he is going to prison for the rest of his life. But that, we would argue, was not the most difficult thing for him to hear in court.
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Speaker 1: As was a part of this story of this trial, his daughters were reportedly very close by when he shot his wife, their mother, and robes those two girls, 10 and 12. As it was set up yesterday, they were not in court, but their uncle read letters that they wrote, not to the court, but directly to their dad. And this was devastating stuff to hear girls in their 10 and 12-year-old colloquialisms tell this man he needs to repent, he needs to confess. what did she do to make you hate her so much? They had some very poignant, powerful, direct words. And the oldest even started her letter by calling him Caleb and then signing off by saying, I do not plan to come see you. Yes. It was tough.
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Speaker 3: And then signed her full name, Alyssa Flynn. And it was of note, his 10-year-old, still just that difference in age, Ava, she said, dear daddy. And she said, love Ava at the end. But she too implored him, said she prayed for him every single night to tell the truth and to repent to God. Now, you might argue that was the harshest thing he could have heard, but he did receive the harshest sentence possible from the judge, life without the possibility of parole, plus an additional 16 years he must serve before that life sentence even takes hold.
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Speaker 1: All right, we'll continue on this run now. And Robes, I don't know about you, but whenever I hear the government say, At this time, there's no risk to the general population. My ears perk up and I get a little bit nervous. That's fair, right?
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Speaker 3: Yes, I think especially after the pandemic, we all perhaps feel a little PTSD from that. And yes, when you start talking about labs and virologists, yes, that also makes one nervous.
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Speaker 2: Get a little nervous.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they start using words like plague. Well, yes, the U.S. is monitoring developments out of a lab in Russia where a worker has died, possibly of pneumonic plague. This worker is a 28-year-old woman. She studied plague, didn't know it was going on, quite frankly, at this particular lab here in Russia, and she suddenly fell ill and died on Friday.
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Speaker 2: Suddenly fell ill. This is scary stuff.
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Speaker 3: And yes, Russian officials say she died of pneumonia of undetermined origin. But she worked in a lab studying the plague. All right, about 200 people work in that lab. They've now been put under precautionary observation, but nothing to.
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Speaker 2: See here, folks.
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Speaker 1: The one that's scary, I'm used to bubonic plague, right? We know that one. These things have caused pandemics before. Caused by bacteria, but Robes, they say the pneumonic one is the rarest. But you can be treated, but you have to catch it really quickly or it's going to kill you really quickly.
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Speaker 2: Thus, she suddenly died.
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Speaker 1: Right. And so the scary part is whatever she had, they don't know if it was something that was naturally occurring that they were studying or something that was cooked up.
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Speaker 3: This is frightening stuff because you think about China labs, Russian labs, These aren't exactly countries where you can trust the information coming out of. So, you know, they can tell us that they've got it all under control, but do they?
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Speaker 2: We won't know.
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Speaker 1: You just made me laugh. These places now you can't trust the information coming out of.
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Speaker 2: That's hilarious, including the White House.
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Speaker 1: We didn't used to be that, though, right?
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Speaker 2: You're right. Now when the president says something, we can't just accept it as fact.
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Speaker 1: Gotta get a second source.
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Speaker 2: Or a third.
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Speaker 3: All right, next up on the run, as Krista Pike clings to life at the hospital after last week's botched execution, some are already talking about the new ways to kill her. Pike, of course, survived her execution last week after being given what should have been deadly doses of pentobarbital. Two they gave her, neither one actually worked. It appears that that lethal dose went into her arm tissue rather than into her vein.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're told she has not regained consciousness. She has since been in the hospital on a ventilator. Now, Tennessee Republicans, including Senator Marsha Blackburn, are coming forward. She said in an interview with the Associated Press that the botched execution, and I quote, should not be grounds to halt carrying out the death penalty. It's lethal if it's lethal injection, if it's the electric chair. What we do know is we have to find a way to do this and do it successfully.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: The statehouse speaker said, I don't think there's any method that's off the table at this point. And the statehouse majority leader said he was in favor of making electrocution the state's primary method of execution.
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Speaker 1: Pike's attorneys, as we know, they are asking for the governor to commute her sentence now, to do it now and just end any of this discussion. But I am I know they have to fix the problem, but I just didn't realize anybody would have on their mind.
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Speaker 2: Bring back the electric chair?
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Speaker 1: Well, fixing the problem so we can kill her still. I didn't know anybody had on their mind that we're looking for ways or how we're going to kill her later. I didn't know the conversation was turning to that at all yet.
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Speaker 2: Meantime, she's on a ventilator.
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Speaker 1: She's on a ventilator.
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Speaker 2: She's in the middle of life-saving procedures right now.
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Speaker 1: Yes, trying to save the woman we tried to kill a few days ago.
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Speaker 3: And then trying to figure out how to kill her again, even though if you just took her off the ventilator.
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Speaker 2: She would die. This makes no sense. All right, next up on the.
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Speaker 3: Run, Texas is scheduled to carry out an execution tomorrow night using the exact same method of execution that was used on Krista Pike. So Jamal Howard was convicted for shooting and killing Vicki Swarthout, a convenience store clerk. That crime took place many, many years ago, back in the year 2000.
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Speaker 1: Now, his supporters are trying to spare his life, saying he has intellectual disabilities that should be factored in. He's scheduled to die by lethal injection 6 p.m. tomorrow night, seventh execution of the year for Tennessee. For Texas, you mean. Do you know what I just said?
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Speaker 2: Tennessee.
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Speaker 1: Texas, because I was about to turn and start talking about Tennessee, because these two states, Texas and Tennessee, use that same method. Some use a three-drug cocktail. They use one, the pentobarbital, so Robes, we just saw a botched one last Wednesday. And so this Wednesday, another execution of the same type is supposed to take place.
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Speaker 3: A different state who has proven they've been able to do it successfully.
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Speaker 2: Six times beforehand, Tennessee... has not had that same success rate. So we shall see what happens tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: But in the meantime, next up on the run, President Trump has approved a firing squad execution. This would be the first execution carried out by the U.S. military in more than 50 years. Remember Army Major Nidal Malik Hassan? He was found guilty, sentenced to death for that 2009 mass shooting at Fort Hood, Texas.
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Speaker 1: He killed 13, wounded another 30. No execution date set here, but It's just of note, Robes, he'd be the first person executed by the military since 1961, and the method back then was hanging.
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Speaker 3: Wow, and did I see that there was actually a timeline on this? They need to do it, they have to wait at least 60 days, but they have to have it done within 150 days, so... It looks like this execution, if it goes forward in the method President Trump has approved, we shall see it sooner rather than later. All right, next up on the run, faculty members at Cornell University have put the administration on notice. They plan a vote of no confidence over how the university has handled the investigation into this gang rape on campus back in 2024.
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Speaker 2: So the vote, yes, what does it do? It's mostly symbolic.
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Speaker 3: But it adds to the increasing pressure on the school's president, who's been facing protests from students and a lot of questions.
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Speaker 2: Over the school's response.
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Speaker 1: Of course, that former student filed a lawsuit against the school and seven members of a fraternity. She says she was drugged and gang raped for several hours. Though Cornell disciplined the accused, the district attorney refused to bring criminal charges. That's the heart of a lot of the controversy now. And so the governor of New York has appointed New York Attorney General Letitia James appointed as the special prosecutor, so a criminal investigation is currently underway.
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Speaker 3: All right, next up on the run, multiple media outlets are reporting that the Omani-born co-pilot who tried to hijack that plane last week has had an intended target. It was Israel's airport near Tel Aviv.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Israel's main airport. The investigation underway to figure out how the pilot, who had been flagged previously for security concerns, was allowed to fly for Fly Dubai Airline on a route going from Dubai to Israel. The co-pilot, of course, attacked the pilot shortly after the flight took off. Passengers were able to overtake him, and off-duty pilots were able to safely land that plane. What was they even say? The, um, they're looking into how the Israeli government, the military, missed this. They screen everybody coming into that country. Yes, particular pilots who are flying.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's obviously known as one of the most secure airports and certainly countries in the world in terms of what the Israeli military does before, during, and after anything surrounding a plane or people coming into their country.
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Speaker 2: So This is a massive miss.
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Speaker 1: Another airline wouldn't let him in the cockpit. They kept him in like an administrative role because he was flagged. Rose, this is remarkable. Well, stay with us here on this Tuesday morning run. When we come back, he was one of the most successful, famous, and yes, controversial TV evangelists of all time. He has passed away. We'll tell you about that. Also coming up, leave the White House, go to Fox News. Makes perfect sense. Someone else has done that now. And Coca-Cola has announced new flavors. Very curious to hear what you think about them.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everyone, to your Tuesday morning run. And, yes, news that televangelist Jim Baker has died at the age of 86. Of course, he was one of the most successful, famous, and scandalous TV evangelists of all time. Baker and his unforgettable wife, Tammy Faye, preached prosperity and built.
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Speaker 2: An empire until... Yeah. It was brought down by Scant.
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Speaker 1: No, I was stopping there. I was reading up and whatnot on this and some of the history. Robes, they were bringing in like $ 130 million a year. They were rolling in cash, and they preached that this opulence, this over-the-top, this too is what you can have.
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Speaker 2: What was God smiling on you?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: They just got to believe enough. You got to pray enough. You got to be faithful enough. And they built an empire on that. Yes. It was brought down. There was accusations of sexual assault. Financial crimes is what he eventually went to prison for for five years, I do believe. But this was an unforgettable duo.
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Speaker 3: And he was preaching, by the way, up until his death or shortly until he, I suffered a stroke, I believe, in 2020. But if you look up his wife, Lori Baker, his second wife after Tammy Faye, there is a striking resemblance.
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Speaker 2: He had a type.
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Speaker 1: The picture you showed me I'd seen earlier this morning, I thought.
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Speaker 3: It was Tammy Faye. It was a little wild. I had to do a double take. Like, wait, that's his second wife?
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: It's worth a look up. She looks so much like Tammy Faye Baker. My goodness.
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Speaker 1: Nobody can beat Tammy Faye.
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Speaker 2: Nobody can beat Tammy Faye. All right. Next up on the run, the White House to Fox News pipeline continues.
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Speaker 3: Not much of a shocker to hear former White House Press Secretary Carolyn Leavitt.
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Speaker 2: Has joined Fox News?
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Speaker 3: Yes. No. No. She served as Trump's press secretary, of course, until August when she was stepping away, she said, to spend more time being a new mom. Apparently being a journalist doesn't take up too much of your time.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't. It's not. They're going to build her a studio in her house probably.
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Speaker 2: That's true. And she's not a journalist, by the way.
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Speaker 3: I should make that very clear. She's going to be an analyst. And there is a specific distinction between the two. Yes, she's going to be an on-air contributor starting November 1st.
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Speaker 1: And you just go through the list. It's hard to keep naming the back and forth. He plucks people from Fox News to work in the administration. Fox News plucks people from the White House to work on the air.
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Speaker 2: Hegseth might be one of the biggest folks.
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Speaker 1: It just goes on and on and on. What's Conway? Kellyanne Conway. We just saw her.
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Speaker 2: We were just watching her on Fox News.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes.
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Speaker 2: All right. I love this story.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 2: It's exciting.
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Speaker 1: About Coca-Cola flavors?
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Speaker 2: Yes, because I just saw a flavor that just made me so excited.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 2: I need a diet version of it.
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Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead.
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Speaker 3: For the final leg of our run, Coca-Cola announcing the new flavors of It's going to be releasing next year.
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Speaker 2: We want to get your take on some of these. First one is the one that is speaking my language.
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Speaker 1: Oh, this is the one. Okay, I can see that.
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Speaker 2: I love a Coca-Cola Cherry Lime. I love Cherry Lime. You know, that's my favorite LaCroix flavor. It's Cherry Lime.
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Speaker 1: Did they used to have a Coca-Cola just cherry?
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: And they have a lime.
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Speaker 3: So I would love to go to those machines where you can pick, you can mix.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's so fun.
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Speaker 1: You ever been to the Coca-Cola factory in Atlanta?
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Speaker 2: One of my favorite places ever.
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Speaker 3: I used to love taking the girls there because I enjoyed going. Yes.
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Speaker 1: And tasting all those weird Cokes from all around the world.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Man, we just went off the rails there. We'd love some Coke. We don't have any Coca-Cola products in this house.
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Speaker 2: Diet Coke.
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Speaker 1: We do? Yes. Oh, y'all, the girls.
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Speaker 2: I love Diet Coke.
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Speaker 1: The girls drinking that stuff.
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Speaker 2: I have like one a week.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Anyway, Coca-Cola Cherry Lime. They describe it this way. They say it builds on the popularity of cherry among young consumers, blending the classic cherry flavor consumers know with a bright lime twist. The other one, what do you think about it? The other one they're releasing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I'm not a big vanilla person, so Coca-Cola Strawberry Float.
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Speaker 2: It could be good. I'd be willing to try it. Again, I'd need a diet version of this. I don't like things too sweet. But it blends.
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Speaker 3: Coca-Cola with strawberry and creamy vanilla flavors for a nostalgic flavor.
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Speaker 2: I like a root beer float. I don't know that I've ever had a strawberry float.
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Speaker 1: Okay. On the last one here, what's with the prebiotic thing? You have to explain this to me. Why would this appeal to people?
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Speaker 2: It's like theâ why can't I think of the name of it? It'sâ oh, my God.
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Speaker 1: What? I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Prebiotic. What's the appeal of prebiotic?
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Speaker 2: Kombucha, right?
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Speaker 1: Kombucha, okay.
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Speaker 2: It's like kombucha. It's got growth. It's for gut health, that kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: So I say that because they are launching a regional prebiotic test and learn campaign this month to see how consumers might like Coca-Cola Zero Sugar and Sprite Zero Sugar, which are described as having six grams of prebiotic fiber.
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Speaker 2: Oh, okay. So it's different. It's not like kombucha. It's not like any sort of.
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Speaker 1: It's soda with that stuff.
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Speaker 2: Fermented anything. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It's just got prebiotic fiber. I really don't know what that does, but I would try it. Coca-Cola zero sugar with prebiotic fiber. Okay.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's coming in 2027.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't sound as good as Coca-Cola cherry lime. All right.
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Speaker 3: For your quote of the day on this Tuesday, 80 summers is easily the most insane way to describe how short your life is.
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Speaker 2: So live. We only have 80 summers if we're lucky.
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Speaker 3: I thought that was a good quote to think about as two people who we love.
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Speaker 2: Are celebrating a birthday. It's always a good reminder. Enjoy the day. Enjoy your life. Enjoy the time you have. We only have 80 summers if we're lucky.
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Speaker 1: What do you think your brother's doing today?
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Speaker 2: Working. He's a roebuck. This is what we do. Yes, and he has patients who... rely on him so I.
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Speaker 3: Doubt he is taking the day off from his practice. But happy birthday, Eric. Happy birthday, T.
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Speaker 2: Love you. And thank you, everyone, for listening to us. I'm Amy Roebuck.
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Speaker 1: And I'm TJ Holmes. Always appreciate you running with us.