June 14, 2026

Trump’s Name Is Allegedly Off The Kennedy Center, We Just Can’t See It Yet

Trump’s Name Is Allegedly Off The Kennedy Center, We Just Can’t See It Yet

Just in time for President Trump’s 80th birthday, we are told workers have removed Donald J. Trump from the Kennedy Center facade after a failed last minute appeal by the DOJ. Beginning Friday night, workers spent 8 hours setting up scaffolding and massive white tarps to conceal the removal, as hundreds gathered to watch and livestream the moment. As of this recording, the tarp is still up, but the Center’s executive director has filed a sworn declaration that Trump’s name is gone. Trump did get one legal win this week, allowing his UFC fight on the south lawn to proceed as planned, however, Mother Nature may have other plans with severe thunderstorms forecast for the evening.

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00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Sunday, June fourteenth, and happy birthday, mister President. President Trump's name for his birthday was taken down officially from the front wall of the Kennedy Center, or so we're told. You'll just have to take his word for it for now. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Will you please explain why we have to take the president's word for it that his name has come down from the Kennedy Center.

00:00:32
Speaker 2: What an early birthday president, a birthday president for the president? Yes, And the reason why we have to take his word for it is because scalfliting and tarps are blocking the actual removal, the process of the removal, and.

00:00:48
Speaker 3: The aftermath of the removal.

00:00:49
Speaker 2: So we know that there has been an official sworn declaration from the Kennedy Center's executive director who says that Trump's name is gone.

00:01:00
Speaker 3: Okay, and we do have.

00:01:01
Speaker 2: There's a New York Times photographer who was able to find a like a gap in some of the I guess tarps that were put up, and they actually were able to get a worker pulling down an a. So we know that the workers were pulling down and they said that they believed they were pulling them down by hand. There was no noise of power tools or anything, which they thought was strange. But somehow they said they were taking them down without power tools.

00:01:32
Speaker 1: Is this not hilarious to anybody else?

00:01:33
Speaker 2: With me?

00:01:34
Speaker 3: It's hilarious.

00:01:35
Speaker 1: His name has come down and they won't let us see it yet. I know they won't let us see it.

00:01:41
Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed for him.

00:01:43
Speaker 2: This is embarrassing, so embarrassing, so embarrassing. And if you think about what happened. So there were last minute legal wranglings. The judge end of May gave them two weeks basically take it down. So there was a deadline of Friday at midnight, right so last night at legal wrangling, they filed this petition on Thursday saying an appeal basically saying and this is the argument for them to not take the name down was laughable.

00:02:10
Speaker 3: They said that if.

00:02:11
Speaker 2: They were forced to take Trump's name off the building, that that would force them to return hundreds of millions of dollars in donor donations for renovations. And here's the quote. They said, this is the legal filing. People and companies who have given or will be giving millions of dollars to the center were only willing to do so with the name Trump on the building. Does anyone believe that?

00:02:36
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, it's in illegal briefing, is it not.

00:02:39
Speaker 3: It's an illegal briefing.

00:02:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the appeal the appeals court denied the appeals, so they denied the DOJ request for a stay, and they said, no, you got to remove it by Friday at midnight.

00:02:51
Speaker 3: Deal with it.

00:02:52
Speaker 2: Well, guess what they blew past the Friday midnight deadline. But here's what they said. What us It was the weather. We can't put our construction workers in harm's way with severe weather coming through Safety first, fine. So interestingly, workers spent eight hours on Friday building scaffolding and hanging a tarp step by step so that nobody could see what was about to happen. And by the way, the New York Times described it as a rowdy crowd gathered to watch Trump's name come down. They said a couple hundred people were out there.

00:03:30
Speaker 1: Some of the there were live streams, several lime stream live streams dedicated to this, and I have to admit I was watching some of them. And yes, the crowds were they were waiting for the moment, and people were waiting to capture the moment, and it seems like the administration of somebody doesn't want that moment to be captured. So obviously when the thing, when this name first went up, we saw those workers putting that up, no problems, but by step they built a scaffolding carefully and they made sure nobody A D an, O, an N and a. All of this pulled off the wall, so the public didn't get to see that shame, that embarrassment. That's a loss. So what's the next part, Rhodes. There's going to be a moment that tarps have to come down, I assume. I assume middle of the night maybe, But are they trying to keep that dramatic image from going the unveiling of the rebirth of the Kennedy Center minus oh oh, they don't.

00:04:31
Speaker 2: Want any of those images out because they know that they will live on forever along.

00:04:36
Speaker 1: Will the tarps stay up then roades?

00:04:38
Speaker 2: Not sure, because by the way, they didn't start according to people who were watching this, and tell me if I'm wrong, they didn't even start taking the letters down until three a m.

00:04:48
Speaker 3: Saturday morning.

00:04:49
Speaker 2: I mean, they waited until a time when most people are asleep, when most people couldn't be bothered to watch, they tried to do it, Yes, under the cloak of night, under the cloak of tarps, And still it just looks sad because everyone understands that this is just like a humiliating shield. But the embarrassment still is there. And yes, maybe they saved having the tea coming down, like you said, and all of that from being played out on TikTok, and maybe that's a win, but it's still I'm embarrassed for them that they can't even allow for people to see a name coming down.

00:05:29
Speaker 1: It just seems petty. It just seems another thing. Right, this is a transparent administration, right, the most transparent in history, and all these things we hear you're too embarrassed, like it's just too big of an l he it just seems so small for such a big man.

00:05:47
Speaker 2: Yes, well, did you see TMZ had a big post about a rainbow, a rainbow that was spotted outside the Kennedy Center with the crowd that was gathered there to wait and watch.

00:06:00
Speaker 3: They thought they were going to get to see the letters coming down.

00:06:03
Speaker 2: But everyone was talking about how poetic it was because it's Pride Month, and we all know, you know their feelings on that and Pride Month.

00:06:12
Speaker 3: So oh, how funny.

00:06:13
Speaker 2: Was it that a rainbow appeared over the Kennedy Center? Is that tarps are up and we think the letters were coming down?

00:06:21
Speaker 1: I guess they're down. I mean, I am really Robes curious about this tarp. Are they really going to try to pull something? Because there is nothing, Robes in the filing, any legal brief anything. The judge said that says that tarp can't be there indefinitely until maybe they try later to put his name back up. Robes, are they going to try to keep this shielded for as long as they can? I?

00:06:46
Speaker 2: You know what, I had not even considered that scaffolding has to come down?

00:06:51
Speaker 1: But does it? Can they? Ooh?

00:06:55
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what I mean because at this point now they're setting up a showdown of their own making.

00:07:02
Speaker 1: They should have just taken it down, you know what. They should have taken it down when the Knicks were winning the championship. Las.

00:07:09
Speaker 2: Yes, or maybe if there is a signing of peace, which we don't know if it's happening, but President Trump claims that.

00:07:18
Speaker 3: The war is over with Iran it's his birthday. Maybe he can kind of.

00:07:24
Speaker 2: Show people, look what I've done on my birthday, signing this peace deal, and while we're all looking at him in the Oval office before the big UFC fight, while everyone's distracted, then maybe they can take the tar of down then. I mean, I would think he has some sort of plan. They're pretty social media savvy. They understand the visuals people are looking for, and they're absolutely trying to circumvent that or at least mitigate any damage that could be done from a public relations standpoint, because you know, you and I both know. I think the world knows. There's nothing President Trump hates more than lose because he loves calling other people losers and now he's a loser.

00:08:06
Speaker 1: But he won't lose, you know, no matter what he loses, he refuses to lose. He will spin everything in some way to tell everybody that he actually won and he's been done wrong by the court, or he's been done wrong by this person or by Congress or something. This, everything, nothing is a loss to him. He spends it in some.

00:08:24
Speaker 2: Way, or at least he tries to. But the issue is how many people are believing it. I mean, I know he's got a very strong magabase, but how many people does he actually lose? Because it's one of those things we've talked about this quite a bit from what happened in the streets of Minneapolis, when you have Trump administration officials telling us things are one way, when we see things that are the opposite way. Like at that point, we're all smart enough to know that we can't now believe anything you say, and that's the problem. So sure, he can spin all he wants, but the reality is most Americans are smart enough to understand that when you say something that is lagrantly falls or you do something to try and distract us from the truth, we're all going to see through that.

00:09:10
Speaker 1: Well, this is a pretty big weekend of distraction then, because the Iran war supposed to be over, his birthday party is happening on the lawn. Broh. This is like, this is a really big weekend. His name just came off.

00:09:22
Speaker 2: That's a big l You know how much that has to hurt because it literally happened within hours of his eightieth birthday, an event that he's claiming is all about the two hundred and fiftieth celebration of our nation's birth But really it's about his eightieth birthday, and so to have this all happen and coincide right with his this is the milestone birthday for anybody, certainly for him. And so yeah, this is the last thing he wants people talking about on his birthday weekend.

00:09:52
Speaker 1: His hometown team won won the championship.

00:09:55
Speaker 2: The Knicks did, but they lost on the one game he went to go see they ain't that funny, think about it.

00:10:01
Speaker 3: He's takes think about it. He cursed the Knicks. That is what people are saying. So the one game he shows up for is the only game the Knicks loss. Coincidence, I think not. No, I'm kidding, I'm joking.

00:10:15
Speaker 1: But still he's taking a few high profile losses here Rose. But maybe the UFC fight will be a wonderful spectacle for his birthday.

00:10:24
Speaker 3: That's right, And when we come back, we'll talk about.

00:10:26
Speaker 2: First of all, I want to get into a little bit of what the President had to say about this judge that just created the situation in which his name came off the Kennedy Center.

00:10:36
Speaker 3: And yes, he did have a win.

00:10:39
Speaker 2: His win was that he gets to have this big UFC fight, These seven fights I believe on the South Lawn for his birthday because he won that court battle, but he may have another battle with mother nature. Welcome back, everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ where President Trump, Happy birthday to him. He's eighty today, but he's been suffering a bit with some big l's, as you like to say, the biggest one this was this is pie in the face. There's no other way to describe having to watch your name and know that the world is watching your name or trying to see your name come down off the Kennedy Center. And it was up for six months, I believe in total, which is longer than I realized, but that is.

00:11:35
Speaker 3: I believe what happened. But look, if you are trying to go back.

00:11:38
Speaker 2: And remember how it happened, Remember he replaced the Kennedy Center board with just completely his people, total loyalists. They not him, suggested and actually voted unanimously to put his name above President Kennedy's name on an iconic memorial built to honor a fallen present.

00:12:01
Speaker 1: And they still defended. Afterwards, they still pushed and tried to explain why his name deserved to be up there, and they continued to push and even like you said, last minute. We talked about it here earlier, but last minute, even when the deadline was here, they still made a push to keep his name on that building.

00:12:20
Speaker 2: Yep, and tried to tie it all to money. And so yes, a judge end of May, just a few weeks ago. First of all, Nick's the closure the President Trump was trying to put on the Kennedy Center by putting in these renovations. He said, I've got to close the center for two years. The judge said, no, you're not closing the center for two years.

00:12:41
Speaker 1: And all others would say he was just trying to close it to hide the embarrassing drop in ticket sales. Correct, since he and his people were running the center.

00:12:51
Speaker 3: Correct.

00:12:51
Speaker 2: And so while the judge told him you can't close the center, he also had it. And by the way, Congress gave the Kennedy Center its name, and only Congress can change it.

00:13:02
Speaker 3: And so Trump his.

00:13:03
Speaker 2: Reaction to the judge, I don't know if we've read this, and I certainly hadn't seen this before, but this is how Trump responded, Judge Cooper should be ashamed of himself unless I am free to do what I do better than anyone else bring this institution back physically, financially, and artistically. I have no interest in continuing what could only be a hopeless journey into never never Land. Do you recall him saying that, Yes, that was true, social never never Land, that's where we are.

00:13:37
Speaker 1: He but it was a threat of kind of a I'll take my ball and go home. Yes, like, oh, you're not gonna let me put my name on it, then I'm not gonna help you.

00:13:49
Speaker 2: I'm not going to renovate the place and we'll just let it fall into disrepair because you won't put my name on it.

00:13:55
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:13:55
Speaker 2: And by the way, you putting your name on it caused pretty much every single artist that was scheduled to perform that year at the Kennedy Center to cancel said performances, which is why the president, let's be honest, needed to close the center for renovations. Sorry, okay, all right, please take over. I'm on a roll and I need to stop. Okay, okay.

00:14:19
Speaker 3: There is good news for the President on his birthday.

00:14:22
Speaker 2: Yes, because that judge another judge ruled that his UFC cage fights can take place tonight at the White House. Seven cage fights are set to take place on the South lawn. You all have seen that monstrosity that has been erected.

00:14:37
Speaker 1: You didn't the south right, you said you should have said. There was good news and bad news.

00:14:41
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the good news is that he had a legal victory because there was a group that was trying to stop the UFC fight for pretty sound reasons, if you ask me, there's some financial personal financial gain for a lot of folks using the people's South Lawn.

00:15:00
Speaker 1: I canna see a lot of sponsorships on that cage tonight because I we won't be able to watch it where we are, but if I would want to, I would love to watch that from the White House. This is a it's a mess. They've turned the White House lawn into like not even a carnival. It's uh, I don't know what you would call.

00:15:22
Speaker 3: I don't Maybe it looks cool when you're there.

00:15:24
Speaker 2: It looks messy as hell from from the aerials that I've seen.

00:15:27
Speaker 1: It's fine, it's fine. Some people are getting their place at the White House and this is a sport. That's I don't know, fine, It's just it looks crazy. It looks crazy, it looks trashy. Okay, there it is thank you.

00:15:41
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

00:15:42
Speaker 2: I felt bad because I was already ashy, yes, trashy, Okay, I'm sorry.

00:15:48
Speaker 1: There it is that same scene inside the MGM in Vegas. Doesn't look it looks appropriate. It looks like what it's supposed to be. There, you go, thank you. Why are with the white house jumping dirt bikes? And it's like, let's put some.

00:16:02
Speaker 2: Lawn gnomes up there too, and maybe some pink flamingos to complete the esthetic.

00:16:08
Speaker 1: There it is, there is. We're gonna see his limousine out there on blocks and ship in the front yard.

00:16:17
Speaker 3: That's what it looks like.

00:16:18
Speaker 2: But yes, it's his birthday, and the birthday boy gets to do what the birthday boy wants to do. So it's his eightieth he wants to trash up the south lawn.

00:16:28
Speaker 3: Let him do it and look it.

00:16:30
Speaker 2: I'm sure it'll be entertaining, And I say will be, but maybe I should say might be because the only threat now to his big UFC fight birthday bash is mother Nature. Because severe and we're not just making this up or hyping this up. There are legitimately you were looking at weather reports severe thunderstorms scheduled to roll through DC around the time of all of this.

00:17:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's two waves. I was watching it, I think early evening four to six or seven like that. And then another nine ten eleven robs right in the thick of when all this is going to be going on. And it's not just what's happening at the White House. There is where they say one hundred thousand people or something. They got screen set up.

00:17:16
Speaker 3: There's watch parties, much like what we just saw with the Knicks and DC.

00:17:19
Speaker 2: I mean in New York, they have watch parties set up all around so the mall area where you're yeah, hundreds of thousands of people.

00:17:26
Speaker 1: And so you know, if they are thunderstorms, you have got to clear those people out for safety.

00:17:30
Speaker 2: Rees As a daughter of my parents who were struck by lightning, my uncle died in that lightning strike in the on the fourth of July and Georgia. So yes, this stuff pops up in that that lightning bolt hit before a rain drop even fell. So yes, it's not just about rain and getting wet.

00:17:47
Speaker 1: They'll get there.

00:17:47
Speaker 2: It's lightning and you are on the mall, you are a standing lightning rod. So there are no there's no cover. If anyone's been there on the National Mall. It's a wide open field. That is the last place you want to be if lightning is striking.

00:18:02
Speaker 1: So that's I don't know. Based on the weather report, you cannot you cannot have an outdoor event.

00:18:09
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if lightning struck and people died on the National Mall at the UFC event on Trump's birthday?

00:18:19
Speaker 1: Well, I bet they are scrambling there is how can you do a backup plan for this? Because this is the weather right now will not allow this to go for the only.

00:18:27
Speaker 2: Thing I can think of, so that big monstrosity that was erected, I don't even know what it's called.

00:18:33
Speaker 1: Remember they've been using a word for it.

00:18:34
Speaker 3: I can't think of what it is.

00:18:35
Speaker 2: But but is there a way to put a cover or a top on it? And maybe you can't have the crowds, but you could still televise it.

00:18:42
Speaker 3: I don't know.

00:18:44
Speaker 1: They're still outside. I don't You can't. You have to put people inside.

00:18:48
Speaker 2: You can't have crowds out there on the mall with a thunderstorm.

00:18:52
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

00:18:53
Speaker 3: I don't know. We shall see, but this will be interesting.

00:18:56
Speaker 1: The birthday weekend.

00:18:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not going as planned.

00:19:00
Speaker 2: No one wants rain on their parade, certainly not a thunderstorm, but we will be watching and we always appreciate you listening.

00:19:07
Speaker 3: Thank you everyone. I'm Ami Roebuck alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.