Trump REALLY Wants You To Know That He Is A Frickin’ Genius.  Take His Cognitive Test With Us!

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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Tuesday, October 20th, and President Trump is an absolute genius. You know how we know? Because he told us so. Because he took three cognitive tests, made a perfect score on all of them. Here's the problem. That test does not measure intelligence. But surely a smart man would know that. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Why is he going out and telling people he's a genius because he took a test that he has to know doesn't measure intelligence?

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Speaker 2: Because he's a freaking genius. I believe that was his exact phrase. But the point is, and I think a lot of people recognize this, I think people often say it when it comes to money. If you're rich, you don't sit there and tell everybody how rich you are. I feel like the same thing's true about intelligence. If you're actually smart, you don't need to tell everybody or prove to everybody just how smart you are.

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Speaker 1: We don't think he's a dumb man, right? Just a lack of intelligence of any kind. We label him a lot of things if you want. Roms, why is he going out? It makes someone sound not smart. When you're trying to convince people that a test you have to know damn well doesn't measure intelligence is a measure of your intelligence. Robsi sounds crazy to keep repeating this.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because all this test does, from my understanding, is try to register or rank whether or not you're suffering from dementia. Like it's. do you have dementia or not, or early stages of dementia?

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Speaker 1: You said from what you understand. It's from what the entire medical community understands. It's not you.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to be humble.

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Speaker 1: It's not your interpretation.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, I don't know what the exact... definition of these tests is, but my general understanding is you're trying to... Like, look, as people age, your body ages, your body atrophies, your muscles atrophy, so does your brain. So you're measuring just any early signs of cognitive weakness.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Well, if anybody's not familiar, probably at this point, most people have heard this because he has been repeating it for quite some time and telling anybody who will listen. Now, we've heard it a lot lately... because he's been out in the campaign trail, and he's been out there giving these campaign-type speeches. But he's been saying things over the years now that sound like this. I've taken three of them, and I've aced each one. One in the first administration... two over here.

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Speaker 3: And whenever they get a little sassy, like, does he still have it? Does he still have what it takes?

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Speaker 1: I say, all right, I'll take another one. And they are hard.

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Speaker 4: There are many people in this room I know that are smart. They're not going to ace them. There are many people standing back there.

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Speaker 1: The fake news made it there. I'd like to have them.

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Speaker 3: You know, the first question is very easy, and they always show the first question is, you have a lion, a bear, an alligator. and a, what's another good, a squirrel, okay? Which is the squirrel? So they show that.

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Speaker 4: Question, and then the first four or five questions, they get a little more difficult.

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Speaker 1: By the time you get to the middle, they're tough.

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Speaker 3: By the time you get to the end, I don't want to be insulting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay. On its surface... What do you hear?

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Speaker 2: You know what I hear? I hear Alec Baldwin playing President Trump on SNL. It almost, to me, not almost, no. It sounds like a comedy script. Like when I close my eyes, I can see Alec Baldwin in an opening skit of SNL because that is how ridiculous he sounds. That is an honest, I'm not trying to be cute or, that is a genuine response. That's what he sounds like to me.

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Speaker 1: Why is he doing it? Is it really not a big deal? Is it really.

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Speaker 2: It's massive insecurity. That's all I can think of.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but babe, he's repeating something that he has to know is not true. Everybody knows what's coming out of his mouth is wrong. He keeps saying it. Why?

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Speaker 2: Because I think he thinks it means he's smart. I actually think he believes what he's saying.

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Speaker 1: You don't think he understands what this test is?

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Speaker 2: I think that people around him have told him, wow, you're smart. Everyone strokes his ego so much, including the physicians around him. I think that everybody is so eager to be in his good graces that they will tell him whatever they think his ego wants to hear, and he believes it because it feels good to believe it.

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Speaker 1: There's no way that too many smart folks around, he has access to the internet. He knows the test that he took that has a crude drawing of a horse and a tiger, and they ask you to pick out what's what. You are not going to get in front of a crowd and say, I took a really difficult test that most of you couldn't ace. You won't do that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so if it's not that he believes it, why then? Does he think everyone else is so dumb? Is it some weird God-like feeling that he's all-knowing and he can lie and manipulate the masses and we'll all just believe what he's selling us because he's that much smarter than the rest of us?

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Speaker 1: Will we not look it up? Does he assume most people in that audience are not going to take the time to figure out, to understand what he's talking about? Folks, the President of the United States has once again gone out and on stage been talking about, as you just heard, how smart he is based on this test. What is this test? The MOCA test. It's what it's called. In ropes, we do have the definition. You said, I don't know what the exact definition is. We do have one, but it stands for the Montreal Cognitive Assessment. Ropes. It is described as a 30-point Screener for dementia.

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Speaker 2: Oh, wow.

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Speaker 1: Period. Is what it is.

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Speaker 2: So acing it just means that you don't have dementia.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is expected to ace it. Robes, it does not measure intelligence of any kind by any measure. And from right there, Robes, Mocha's website themselves what this thing is.

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Speaker 2: Wow. The MOCA screening test is a medical screening tool used by health professionals worldwide for early detection of mild cognitive impairment, or MCI.

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Speaker 1: It's a screening tool. They have these, Robe. They even, like, grandkids will have their grandparents take them. Just, hey, Grandpa, answer a few questions here. For them to get an idea of where that person might be from a cognitive standpoint. That's what this is.

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Speaker 2: It's for old people.

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Speaker 1: Robes, it's designed to be extremely easy. That is the point of it.

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Speaker 2: So the MOCA scoring, there are, what, 11 questions approximately, give or take?

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Speaker 1: And he goes on stage and says, by the time I get down to question number 28, 29, and 30. He said it's like a 30-minute... Test, right? It's a 10-minute test. And it has about 11 questions on it.

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Speaker 2: And the maximum score is 30, which we've heard him say over and over that he got the perfect score. But a score of 26 or above is considered normal.

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Speaker 1: You're supposed to, babe. They don't give you a star if you ace it. They just say, see you next year.

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Speaker 2: Turns out you don't have dementia.

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Speaker 1: You're okay. Doesn't mean the biggest idiot can get 30 for 30 on this thing. It doesn't measure intelligence at all. That's the point.

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Speaker 2: Do you think someone in the White House press corps can actually reach him and ask him, or at least bring this up and say, sir, do you know that this is not a test of intelligence? It's a test to detect dementia. And then ask him if he'd be willing to take an IQ test. Because that actually is, right? That is what measures intelligence, the IQ test.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're told.

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Speaker 2: That's what I've always understood it to be. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And remember, folks, the test is specifically designed, Rob. They're supposed to be quick and easy. You should recall these things. They're supposed to be very, very simple. Now, as a reminder, when did he put this one out? I think this was early summer. The result of his last physical examination was, Brooks, he's really putting his chest out on this one. He was feeling good.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this was his truth social. The results of my physical examination taken at Walter Reed Military Medical Center and just released were extremely good. Unlike other U.S. presidents, none of whom have ever taken an approved high-difficulty cognitive test, I scored a perfect 30 out of 30. Considered extreme intelligence. Oh, God.

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Speaker 1: Oh, man, that's tough.

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Speaker 2: Babe, is there... I'm breaking it up here. Is there anywhere on any page when it comes to this cognitive test where you can get a score or a result that tells you you have extreme intelligence?

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Speaker 1: Okay. I'm going to answer you with this. And we're going to go through the question. I'm actually going to quiz Robes, and you're all going to hear the questions the same as the president got. But to answer you about measuring your extreme intelligence, one of the questions is to name the city you're.

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Speaker 2: In.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. That is one of the questions. Where are you?

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Speaker 2: And by the way. I'm actually a little nervous because I have not seen any of these questions. And I'm actually nervous because I am not here to tell you that I am extremely intelligent.

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Speaker 1: Because it's not measuring that.

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Speaker 2: But what if I'm in an early stage of dementia right now?

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Speaker 1: And you forget where you are?

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Speaker 2: I'm getting older.

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Speaker 1: Where are you? Do you know where you are?

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Speaker 4: Yes, obviously. One point.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I got to finish what the president said.

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Speaker 2: So after he says he was considered having extreme intelligence, he went on to say, Are the Democrats really surprised? In fact, this is my fourth such test. All perfect or 120 correct answers out of 120 questions asked. It is very rare that anyone gets a perfect score, especially when achieved four times in a row. All people running for president and vice president should be forced to take high-difficulty cognitive tests. Congress and the Democrats should demand it. Wait, are they called high-difficulty cognitive tests? I already know the answer, but I just want it for clarification. If you could please answer the question.

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Speaker 1: Another question is to repeat the word tomato. I mean, I don't know what you want from me right now. There is nothing.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: So he added the high difficulty to the cognitive test.

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Speaker 1: Extreme intelligence. High difficulty. When you put that, really, Robes, it is an SNL skit. When you juxtapose his words with what this is, with what it actually is, Robes, you're supposed to put numbers in order from front to back. Right? There's just, I'm glad he's passing it. I'm very happy he's acing it. We all should be. But, To come out. You're the president.

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Speaker 2: Is there a test for delusion?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, actually.

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Speaker 2: There should be. And every president should have.

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Speaker 1: To take it. You don't have to be measured for that. Most people can recognize.

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Speaker 2: It in you. I feel like that's happening.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Last thing I want to give you on this is we did mention Rhodes. He's been all over the place getting ready for the midterms. Yes, this week he's in a different city doing a rally. A different state doing a rally. This was him last night talking to the crowd.

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Speaker 2: In Kansas.

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Speaker 1: In Kansas. Where in Kansas, you said?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it was Park City, Kansas.

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Speaker 1: In Park City, Kansas. Here he is talking to the crowd once again about just how smart he is.

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Speaker 4: So simple. So what the Times does, they always show the first disease second. The first four or five are pretty easy, real easy. The first one is they show you a lion, a bear. a snake and a giraffe. And they say, which one's the giraffe? Okay. So what the fakers back there do, they show that as, and everyone thinks, oh, none of those people could get close to getting a perfect score. But I got it three times. I got a perfect score.

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Speaker 1: They're applauding him.

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Speaker 2: Four times. Now it's three.

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Speaker 4: I got it three times.

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Speaker 1: You're right. These are all his words. But they are genius.

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Speaker 4: The fake news, they are genius, so. I took it once. I got a perfect score.

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Speaker 1: Very small story.

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Speaker 2: He can't remember how many times he took it.

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Speaker 4: Barely perceptible, right? Then I took it again. I'm putting myself at risk because if I did poorly, that's possible. But if I did poorly, it's headlines all over the world, right? So I got barely, wherever my doctor, I'd love to bring him up, barely perceptible. Then I took it a second time. Perfect score. And one of the doctors said, I've never seen anybody get a perfect score twice. Never seen. I said, how long have you done this? He said, 30 years. I said, well, that's not that long. Then I took one in this term, too, and I had another perfect score. So the press didn't know what to do. So you know what they came up with? Why is President Trump continuing to take cognitive tests? There must be something wrong with him.

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Speaker 1: It's a fair question. Rose, some argue that folks don't get this many cognitive tests. Why he's getting them, I think it's a good thing. It's a positive, but why do they continue to give them?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm actually just concerned if there should be a level of concern that he can't remember how many he took.

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Speaker 1: And you're right. That's him last night.

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Speaker 2: He said three, and in his Truth Social, made it very clear that he had taken four. Wouldn't that be like one of the basic questions in said cognitive test?

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Speaker 1: Yes. To that said cognitive test. Stay here. We'll check to see if you and Roebuck are smarter than a president. All right. Welcome back, everybody, to Amy and TJ, as we now... give all of you the mocha test the same one that the president says he has aced three times three times uh no or four times i'm sorry three or four all right we'll start at the top you and just kind of follow along some of this i'm gonna have to uh just talk you through ropes because you can't really draw on this um complete this cycle one a two b three C. Yes. Next. You got a pen over there?

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Paper in front of you. Draw a clock with the time five past ten. Draw a clock with the time of five past ten. Do you think you're going to be able to handle that?

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Speaker 2: I didn't feel like putting all the numbers, but that's the 10.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough. That's the one. Fair enough. All right. Now, I need to show you some pictures. I need you to name. Tell me what that is.

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Speaker 2: That's a horse.

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Speaker 1: What's that?

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Speaker 2: That's a tiger.

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Speaker 1: What's that?

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Speaker 2: That's a duck.

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Speaker 1: Okay. You're doing great so far.

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Speaker 2: Is my mommy coming to pick me up at one or two?

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Speaker 1: I am going to give you five words. Repeat them back to me in the same order. Are you ready?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Leg.

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Speaker 2: Leg.

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Speaker 1: Cotton, school, tomato, white.

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Speaker 2: Leg, cotton, tomato, school, white.

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Speaker 1: Again, leg, cotton, school, tomato, white.

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Speaker 2: Leg, cotton, tomato, school, white.

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Speaker 1: We continue now. Say these words to me, excuse me, numbers in this same order. Two, four, eight, one, five.

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Speaker 2: 2-4-8-1-5.

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Speaker 1: Repeat these numbers to me in reverse order.

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Speaker 4: 4-2-7.

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Speaker 1: 7-2-4.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Put your hand on the table. Now, you know what? Use your microphone. I'm going to say a series of letters to you. Tap the microphone each time you hear the letter A. Got me?

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: F-B-A-C-M-N-A. A, J, K, L, B, A, F, A, K. Okay, you're good? All right. Subtract by seven. Starting with the number 60. Subtract seven. And tell me the numbers you come up with.

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Speaker 2: 53.

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Speaker 1: Then next.

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Speaker 4: 46.

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Speaker 1: Then next. 39. Then next.

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Speaker 2: 32. Then next. That's not my strong point. 32. Okay. All right. 25.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Next. Repeat this sentence. The child walked his dog in the park after midnight.

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Speaker 2: The child walked his dog in the park after midnight.

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Speaker 1: Finish this sentence. The artist finished his painting at the right moment for this exhibition.

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Speaker 2: The artist finished his painting at the right moment for this exposition, exhibition.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Now, starting right now, and for the next minute, how many words can you name that start with the letter B?

00:19:21
Speaker 2: Go. Berry, bulb, balloon, bunny, bear. Bigfoot. Belly laugh.

00:19:33
Speaker 1: Barbie. Baby. Bark.

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Speaker 2: Bobble.

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Speaker 1: Bubble.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: You got anything over 11.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: What did I get? I don't know. I stopped at 12.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

00:19:47
Speaker 1: But they were.

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Speaker 1: Getting funnier. It's funny.

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Speaker 3: Bank.

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Speaker 2: Now I can think all of them.

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Speaker 1: Blink.

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Speaker 2: Bank.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 2: It keeps coming.

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Speaker 1: All right. Here's your example. Banana. Orange. Equal. Fruit. Okay. Hammer. Screwdriver.

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Speaker 2: Equal.

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Speaker 1: Tools.

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Speaker 2: Tools.

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Speaker 1: All right. Here's the tough one. Remember those words earlier. What were they?

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm going to be able to do that. Okay.

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Speaker 1: One of them had to do with a body part. One of them.

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Speaker 3: Leg.

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Speaker 1: Yes. One of them had to do with the material that so many clothes are made of.

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Speaker 2: Cotton.

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Speaker 1: Another had to do with a place where people are educated.

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Speaker 4: School.

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Speaker 1: Another had to do with, oh, a particular fruit.

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Speaker 2: Banana and white.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a banana.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, see?

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Speaker 2: I did not get a perfect score.

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Speaker 1: So now it is, I have to give you the next type of clue, which would be, was it squash? Was it tomato? Oh, tomato. Was it raspberry? It was tomato. There you go. So, okay, so now I got to do some math to figure out what you lost there.

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Speaker 2: So you said fruit and tomato, vegetable, but I know tomatoes are technically a fruit. But if you had said vegetable, I would have been like, tomato.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the fruit, vegetable thing.

00:21:16
Speaker 1: The test giver. It's the test giver's fault. It's your fault.

00:21:18
Speaker 2: It's not mine.

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Speaker 1: Last thing, what day is it?

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Speaker 2: Tuesday.

00:21:22
Speaker 1: What month is it?

00:21:23
Speaker 2: It is October.

00:21:24
Speaker 1: What year is it?

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Speaker 2: It's 2026.

00:21:27
Speaker 1: What day of the week is it?

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Speaker 2: I said it was Tuesday.

00:21:32
Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Date? You gave me the date? Date was... Oh, sorry. Date's not day. Sorry. Oh, okay.

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Speaker 2: It's October 20th, 2026. All right.

00:21:41
Speaker 1: What place are you physically in right now?

00:21:44
Speaker 2: I'm in my podcast room in New York City. Okay.

00:21:48
Speaker 1: You answered the last one, New York City.

00:21:49
Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: That's the test. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So I did not get a perfect score, though.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: You tripped up on the thing that people get tripped up on.

00:21:58
Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: Did I say a few minutes ago?

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Speaker 2: Right, because it was funny. I kept thinking that that might come back up, but then I couldn't keep focused on that because obviously then you're going through numerology and then different questions about different sequential order. So, yeah, I mean, look, that's kudos to the president.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. It's still not what he's telling people. No, it's no.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: He has a good memory. I mean, I think maybe he could just say that. Or did the doctors tell him, you are so exceptional? And maybe it was because he was able to recall those words or those words 10 minutes later, and the doctors told him, almost no one can do that. That might be what it is. Look, I do think there's always a little truth to the embellishment. And so I would think because remembering, and anyone who took it along with me, Probably had the same, and maybe some people were like, I remember it, and kudos to you. But I bet it is pretty rare that someone remembers those five words ten minutes later after they've had to go through a bunch of other. Okay. See, I think you have the mind that you would have been able to recall them. I'd be interested. I think you would be able to do it. I was pretty sure I wasn't going to be able to do it. I already had my my head's like, there's no way I'm remembering that in 10 minutes. But I think maybe they did tell him that and he's taking that and he's just blowing it up and making it into something much bigger than it actually is. OK, that's my guess.

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Speaker 1: You know, I will go along with that theory.

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Speaker 2: But unfortunately, because he's embellished it, he's now, any sort of attaboy he would get or praise he might get for being able to do that, which might be rare and might be something admirable, he's now made it into something that it isn't. I'm extremely intelligent and no one can do what I did. It's just he's taken something that there was a small truth in and now he's made a, I hate to say that, that.

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Speaker 1: Sounds harsh, but It makes him look bad.

00:24:05
Speaker 2: It's foolish. It makes him look like a fool. And anyone who tells you how smart they are, anyone who tells you how rich they are or how good looking they are, that is always a massive red flag.

00:24:20
Speaker 1: Period.

00:24:21
Speaker 3: All right.

00:24:22
Speaker 1: Well, hope you all did well on the test.

00:24:24
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:24:25
Speaker 2: Hope you did better than me.

00:24:27
Speaker 1: You did great, baby.

00:24:28
Speaker 2: Thank you.

00:24:29
Speaker 1: All right, folks. As always, we appreciate you spending some time with us. I am TJ. That is my idea robot. We'll talk to you all soon.