April 7, 2026
Trump: “A Whole Civilization Will Die Tonight” As Iranian Women And Children Form Human Chains Around Targets
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RSS Feed We are unpacking this brazen, unthinkable and potentially illegal threat President Trump has leveled against Iran, if they don’t open the Strait of Hormuz by 8pm tonight. Iranian women and children have now formed human chains around power plants and bridges as the deadline nears. Democrats and other lawmakers have reacted strongly to Trump’s threat, many calling for his impeachment or removal from office.
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Speaker 1: He It is Tuesday, April seventh, the day the President of the United States says he is going to wipe a civilization off of planet Earth. With that. Welcome to this very scary edition of Amy and TJ. Robes. Can we just start with and folks, if you're listening, there's a deadline tonight. The President has given of the Iranians to make a deal and Rose Usually we tease stuff and set it up. But everybody, if you haven't seen yet, we just need you to hear what the President has put out now as a matter of extending or doubling or tripling I don't even know how far down on his threat that Robes. If they do not agree to a deal by eight o'clock tonight, this is what he now says is going to happen. And then we'll discuss. But folks, you need to hear this.
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Speaker 2: Yes, this is Trump on truth social today. A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have complete and total regime change, where different, smarter and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen.
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Speaker 3: Who knows?
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Speaker 2: We will find out tonight one of the most important moments in the long and complex.
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Speaker 3: History of the world.
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Speaker 2: Forty seven years of extortion, corruption and death will finally end. God bless the great people of Iran.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Rome's we knew you know what your reaction, my reaction. I didn't believe what I was seeing. And I'm struggling to find a way that, even if you are supportive of the president, that anyone suggests that this is the right way to go or a good way to be presidential or a smart move. I'm trying to find anybody and anybody who will endorse this, even if you plan ropes on bombing them, Like why do you say this exactly?
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Speaker 2: And look, my reaction was horror and shock, and I kind of just feel discussed because look, this is the president of the United States. He leads America. So this is what is coming from our country, from our leader's marth and mouth, and the impact that it has not only on Iran and the Middle East, but on the world, how we're viewed, what people think of us, and my God, when you draw a line in the sand like this, where you are literally not just threatening war or threatening a bomb or threaten what you are literally threatening to kill mass murder, Wow, the civilians of an entire country because you want them to do what you want them to do when you want them to do it.
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Speaker 3: That is horrific and unthinkable.
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Speaker 1: It's unthinkable. That's like even your word horror was better than anything I came up with, but unthinkable. So is this just bluster? Is this just another threat? Is this more tough talk? Is this a mistake in the language he chose and he doesn't actually plan on doing? Did it was eight this morning a little left eight o'clock that he put this out, So reminder, folks, the president has said that he has given the deadline of eight o'clock tonight for a deal to be reached with the Iranians to stop this war, and if not, he is going to wipe them out. Now, what were the previous I'm looking for the previous two? So yes, over the weekend, this was the truth social post that really got people's attention. Quote, Tuesday will be power plant Day and bridge Day all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Open the effing straight, you crazy bastards or you'll be living in hell. Just watch Praise be to Allah. That was the first one that set everybody off robe. We've seen the reactions to this one. Now. We always say it. You know what's going on based on oil prices are going which way? And the stocks are going which way? Right, one's going up, one's going.
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Speaker 2: Down, yes, and in the opposite way you want them to. So the stock market is crashing and oil prices.
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Speaker 3: Did I just see one hundred and seventeen a barrel? That is insane? And here's the deal.
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Speaker 2: We're questioning if he really meant it, if he's really going to follow through. The whole point is to put this out in writing on social media and make it very clear what the deadline is and make it very clear what your intentions are. I don't know how you backpedal from that. And then a whole civilization the question does this mean he's targeting civilian areas? And when the White House was asked specifically about that, referencing this truth social post, Anna Kelly, I'm not familiar with her, but she's a spokesperson within the White House Communications department, she said, this refer to the truth and trut h was an all caps. So I'm assuming his truth social post. She is saying, read his truth social post, and that is what he means.
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Speaker 1: This can't happen. I mean I almost feel silly, like, obviously, this can't happen. You have the president of the United States threatening a war crime. Obviously he can't do.
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Speaker 3: This because it is a war crime.
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Speaker 2: It is Attacking civilians is a war crime.
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Speaker 1: Even civilian infrastructure to yes, so it's not just amount of targeting them. But if you're targeting a desalinization plant that will take away fresh water from drinking water from folks, that's considered.
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Speaker 2: Yes, war crime, and legal experts will say so is making threats with the aim of terrorizing or terminating a civilian population. So there are many legal minds who have said with this truth social post alone, regardless if he follows through with the threat, is a war crime in and of itself, because you are now putting civilians on notice that they are going to die at eight pm tonight if their government doesn't do what he tells them to do.
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Speaker 1: And to that point about the citizenry, they have been encouraged by the Iranians to go form human chains around these power plants. There is video coming out of people with Iranian flags. You got men, women and children. You got people out there actually standing in front of these plants, now robes. A lot of people are oh as is said to meet the moment, Da da dada. I'm sorry, we're reading another statement that just popped up here. Now, this is from the White House eight pm tonight do with the United States. Only the President knows where things stand and what he will do.
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Speaker 2: This is a statement the White House saying only the president knows what he will do.
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Speaker 3: That is so frightening.
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Speaker 2: Isn't this the point of the way our government has been set up so one person can't literally take our military and do whatever he wants with it.
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Speaker 1: This isn't gonna happen, Okay, I am we gotta be crazy to think he would do Obviously he cannot do this. So I then go back to the question, then why say this?
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Speaker 3: Then why is I saying this out?
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Speaker 1: Because it is really damaging to think that you have quite I mean, I don't like characterizing the president. I'm not in his head, but the type of things you see, if someone attached, unhinged or mad may have to that sentence, not knowing where it came from you go, who is this crazy person?
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Speaker 3: Exactly? And look.
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Speaker 2: Brett Bhar with Fox News said that he spoke on the phone with the President after this true social post came out. I would like to read what Brett Behar said. We like who, we really like. I absolutely think he is a really good journalist and anchor.
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Speaker 3: He said this.
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Speaker 2: Brett told his audience President Trump said, eight pm is happening.
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Speaker 3: That's what he said. He said, it is.
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Speaker 2: If we get to that point, there is going to be an attack like they have never seen.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: He said, if negotiations move forward today and there is something concrete that could change, but at this hour, he didn't want to put odds on it, but he said, it is moving forward with the plans that we have.
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Speaker 1: You know, I I don't think it's necessarily okay to play this game, is what it feels like. I don't think so. Obviously he's not going to do this. Are we on the same page here? There is zero chance he is going to wipe out a civilization. It just can't be allowed. Is that we're on the same page?
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Speaker 3: I hope so.
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Speaker 2: But at this point I do leave a space for him to do something horrific.
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Speaker 1: He'll do something to say face is that? And I almost or thought Rod he does he know something behind the scenes? Does he already know we're getting to a point that we're going to have some kind of a deal or cease fire And he can ramp up this language as much as he wants, because then he'll be able to come back and say, Aha, see my strategy worked. I think I think he might know something.
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Speaker 2: Wouldn't Yes, that's possible, But wouldn't he also be threatening that ceasefire or whatever deal or whatever negotiations he's come to by posturing and blustering like this. Couldn't that piss off the Iranians enough where they would say, you know what, we were gonna do something, but now let's call you on your bluff. Let's play a little game of chicken. I would think he'd put it in jeopardy in some way by being this overt and this I don't even want to say strong, this insane to level a threat on this level.
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Speaker 1: Hasn't he always he always has an off ramp, He always has a way to claim victory, to claim because you just read the Breadbear thing said like they've never seen versus wiping them out, like he's gonna find a way to say face. He's gonna do something big and something major to say Aha. But I showed mercy. See there's more of where that can. I just he's always good at saving face in some way. So I don't think he would say this stuff knowing he would have to eat crow.
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Speaker 2: Right, because the off ramp for him is if negotiations move forward today, concrete bear. He did not say if the strait of horror moves is reopened. He said if negotiations move forward today, and there is something. But does it make okay what he did and what he said and what he put out there?
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Speaker 1: At least we know, okay. See language and words they always matter. I didn't even catch that the.
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Speaker 3: Second time around. This is what he said.
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Speaker 2: This has created some stiff, as you might imagine, incredulous reaction from members of Congress, from just about everybody. Wait until you hear what the rest of America is saying about Trump's truth social post. Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ, where we are trying to dissect the unbelievable, unthinkable truth social posts that President Trump put out today where he absolutely said did not mince any words. That an entire civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again.
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Speaker 1: What does he mean every Iranian will be killed?
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Speaker 3: That is what that says to me.
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Speaker 2: That is what I don't know how you could look at that first sentence and take any other meaning from it other than I am going to kill everyone.
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Speaker 3: In Iran to night.
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Speaker 1: It's threatening to kill an entire country of people.
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Speaker 2: Yes, he didn't say a whole civilization will be changed tonight. He said a whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want it to have that to happen, but it probably will.
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Speaker 1: That point, what is that It's almost like he's playing cute.
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Speaker 3: It's almost like it's not me.
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of being forced to do this because y'all won't do what I want you to do, so now you've left me no choice. It's kind of like what an abusive husband would say, why'd you.
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Speaker 3: Make me do that?
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Speaker 1: You know it?
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Speaker 3: That's where he's coming from our ankle.
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Speaker 2: It hurts me to hurt you, but you've put me in a position where this is the only thing I can do, which is.
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Speaker 3: To kill all of you.
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Speaker 1: Kill all of you.
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Speaker 3: That is what he said. Let's not pretend he didn't say anything other than that this.
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Speaker 1: Is some Fano shit from Avengers, like wiping out worlds. I will take you all out. And by the way, yes, we got distracted by the new statement we saw a second ago. But to that point, the Iranians have gotten that message. They have been asked to go out and form human chains and shields around these places, and video is coming out of Iranians actually being out forming human chains in some places. Mine, what's gonna happen? Are you still going to drop a bomb there and then blame the Iranians to say you're the ones that put your citizens at risk?
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Speaker 2: That is going to be a war crime if it isn't already just by his words alone.
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Speaker 3: And look we're hearing from Marjorie Taylor Green.
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Speaker 2: I know she's extreme as well, but she was a Trump loyalist at one point.
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Speaker 1: You know what, you say, she was extreme. A lot of people say she's come back to the same fact.
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Speaker 2: So she is now obviously not in good graces at all with President Trump. But she put this out on x and a lot of people are agreeing.
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Speaker 3: Her first line in all.
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Speaker 2: Caps twenty fifth Amendment. Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point. Not a single bomb has dropped on America. We cannot kill an entire civilization. This is evil and madness, Oh.
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Speaker 1: Horror, evil and what was the unthinkable? Those are the best words I've heard.
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Speaker 2: Right, Well, okay, then we've got Look, we know Chuck Schumer is no fan of President Trump. He put this out on X This is an extremely sick person. Each Republican who refuses to join us in voting against this wanton war of choice owns every consequence of whatever the hell this is.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what you do. It's not going to happen. It's awful language, it's awful to say. But he cannot do this, like there has to be I don't know what the fa now we really talking about this? What are our fail safes in place for anybody to be able to step up and say, hey, it's the president, we're not going to allow you to do this. You cannot do this. And that's I guess where the twenty fifth Amendment comes in.
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Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, and you have.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't even name how many Democrats have now called for President Trump's impeachment or absolute removal from office because of this, And I think it is fair to say, Look, we're journalists, this isn't again we always say this, but this isn't about Democrats and Republicans. This is about a man who is making a threat that is absolutely insane.
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Speaker 1: Are we I mean, maybe we're not. Actually you were looking at it more than I was. Did you see some people in support of this statement, even if they're not Republicans necessarily, even if some maga folks in any social media saying this is the way you have to deal with him, This is what should be said. This is what I haven't seen that yet. I don't know how much of us grounds what. Hey, that's the video I'm talking about. You seen that? Wow?
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Speaker 2: And we're looking at the news right now with I mean thousands of women with Iranian flags encircling power plants. Oh my god, because basically, and it's all women. I don't don't even see a man, only see women. This is chilling, women out in force by the thousands encircling Iranian power plants to call Trump on his.
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Speaker 3: Baby.
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Speaker 2: There's babies, there's women. Okay, there's some men, but that was unbelievable. All women and children surrounding Iranian power plants.
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Speaker 1: Okay, this is escalating, This isn't going to happen. But how does he say, but I don't know, he's going to blow up something, He's going to do something, so damn So now you've organized.
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Speaker 2: If you haven't looked and just turned on the news to see some of these images, to see crowds of Iranians now standing on bridges with a massive Iranian flag, with individual flags lining the bridges. So they are literally fortifying their bridges, their infrastructure, their power plants, with human shields, all of them.
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Speaker 1: You know what this know what this does. This might give Trump and out. I am merciful. I am not going to take out women and children.
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Speaker 3: After he said he was going to kill an entire civilization.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a monster. They put their people in harm's way. I'm not gonna Maybe that's a way out. Let's hope, hope.
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Speaker 2: I want him to find the off rap off ramp that makes him feel like he saved face, whatever it takes. At this point, this just cannot happen. But this is also to me, this is a larger issue that Congress and frankly the American people have to figure out how does one person have all this power when we had a government set up to avoid just this scenario.
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Speaker 1: We've never seen anything like this before. We've never seen a guy like this before, not even close. And we've never seen, frankly, followers like this before who will There are very few that have broken out, like Margerie Taylor right, I've never seen anything to where I don't know if there's an anybody standing anywhere near him that would call him on something. Who has the right to say, wait, mister president.
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Speaker 2: I mean, we have seen members of the military either removed, fired, or willingly resigning because they don't want to be a part of this military under his leadership.
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Speaker 3: We have seen that.
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Speaker 2: But you still have a situation in which one man who represents all of America threatening to wipe out an entire country and the people who live there.
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Speaker 1: So those attacks have continued today again, but all this back and forth, there have been continued attacks throughout the day. The United States even credit for on carg Island, but not on the major energy infrastructure. So there were some attack quite frankly, the president, and some of the attacks are getting closer to this very vile area, so that continued today. The other thing I want to mention rogues one the forty five day ceasefire. That was hope yesterday. That was talk yesterday, that was a ceasefire being discussed, that mediators in the Middle East had sent a forty five day ceasefire proposal to the US and to Iran. It was rejected, So there was hope there that has gone away. I was playing for you here. The other thing that JD Vance, Yes, sound he is where he's overseas right now. Yes, he was making a making a speech and making comments and talking about today and he said them that got a lot of people's attention and got ears perked up, like wait a minute. He suggested robe that there is something in our arsenal that the president hasn't authorized yet, Like wait a minute, what? And it was scary because people think and it was suggesting nuclear weapons.
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Speaker 3: That's of course exactly where your mind goes.
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Speaker 2: And look, I hadn't even mentioned it before, but yeah, to think that this person has the nuclear codes, this person in power, our president, Yes, he has that available to him.
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Speaker 3: And JD.
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Speaker 2: Vance isn't hungary, by the way, but yes, he referenced that what else could he have been referencing.
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Speaker 1: You know, they got all kinds of tricks and toys and advanced weaponry that we don't know about. So he could have been talking about anything. But folks, that is where we are right now. The clock is ticking. As of this at least as of this recording, we are less about seven hours. I guess Robes here away from a civilization being wiped out, as the President says. And also he said it yesterday that he could do this in four hours, say he'd wipe them out in four hours. I guess we had a few hours, Robes. Something could happen. Cooler heads could prevail, a deal could be struck. But we will see. Folks, who just wanted to hop on and give you that update, keep a close eye on it. We're keeping a close eye on it as always, top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app where you see our show page button there that says follow click that, make sure you subscribe and all the updates will be coming to you. But on behalf of my dear Amy Robot. I am TJ. Holmes. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 1: He It is Tuesday, April seventh, the day the President of the United States says he is going to wipe a civilization off of planet Earth. With that. Welcome to this very scary edition of Amy and TJ. Robes. Can we just start with and folks, if you're listening, there's a deadline tonight. The President has given of the Iranians to make a deal and Rose Usually we tease stuff and set it up. But everybody, if you haven't seen yet, we just need you to hear what the President has put out now as a matter of extending or doubling or tripling I don't even know how far down on his threat that Robes. If they do not agree to a deal by eight o'clock tonight, this is what he now says is going to happen. And then we'll discuss. But folks, you need to hear this.
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Speaker 2: Yes, this is Trump on truth social today. A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have complete and total regime change, where different, smarter and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen.
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Speaker 3: Who knows?
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Speaker 2: We will find out tonight one of the most important moments in the long and complex.
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Speaker 3: History of the world.
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Speaker 2: Forty seven years of extortion, corruption and death will finally end. God bless the great people of Iran.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Rome's we knew you know what your reaction, my reaction. I didn't believe what I was seeing. And I'm struggling to find a way that, even if you are supportive of the president, that anyone suggests that this is the right way to go or a good way to be presidential or a smart move. I'm trying to find anybody and anybody who will endorse this, even if you plan ropes on bombing them, Like why do you say this exactly?
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Speaker 2: And look, my reaction was horror and shock, and I kind of just feel discussed because look, this is the president of the United States. He leads America. So this is what is coming from our country, from our leader's marth and mouth, and the impact that it has not only on Iran and the Middle East, but on the world, how we're viewed, what people think of us, and my God, when you draw a line in the sand like this, where you are literally not just threatening war or threatening a bomb or threaten what you are literally threatening to kill mass murder, Wow, the civilians of an entire country because you want them to do what you want them to do when you want them to do it.
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Speaker 3: That is horrific and unthinkable.
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Speaker 1: It's unthinkable. That's like even your word horror was better than anything I came up with, but unthinkable. So is this just bluster? Is this just another threat? Is this more tough talk? Is this a mistake in the language he chose and he doesn't actually plan on doing? Did it was eight this morning a little left eight o'clock that he put this out, So reminder, folks, the president has said that he has given the deadline of eight o'clock tonight for a deal to be reached with the Iranians to stop this war, and if not, he is going to wipe them out. Now, what were the previous I'm looking for the previous two? So yes, over the weekend, this was the truth social post that really got people's attention. Quote, Tuesday will be power plant Day and bridge Day all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Open the effing straight, you crazy bastards or you'll be living in hell. Just watch Praise be to Allah. That was the first one that set everybody off robe. We've seen the reactions to this one. Now. We always say it. You know what's going on based on oil prices are going which way? And the stocks are going which way? Right, one's going up, one's going.
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Speaker 2: Down, yes, and in the opposite way you want them to. So the stock market is crashing and oil prices.
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Speaker 3: Did I just see one hundred and seventeen a barrel? That is insane? And here's the deal.
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Speaker 2: We're questioning if he really meant it, if he's really going to follow through. The whole point is to put this out in writing on social media and make it very clear what the deadline is and make it very clear what your intentions are. I don't know how you backpedal from that. And then a whole civilization the question does this mean he's targeting civilian areas? And when the White House was asked specifically about that, referencing this truth social post, Anna Kelly, I'm not familiar with her, but she's a spokesperson within the White House Communications department, she said, this refer to the truth and trut h was an all caps. So I'm assuming his truth social post. She is saying, read his truth social post, and that is what he means.
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Speaker 1: This can't happen. I mean I almost feel silly, like, obviously, this can't happen. You have the president of the United States threatening a war crime. Obviously he can't do.
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Speaker 3: This because it is a war crime.
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Speaker 2: It is Attacking civilians is a war crime.
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Speaker 1: Even civilian infrastructure to yes, so it's not just amount of targeting them. But if you're targeting a desalinization plant that will take away fresh water from drinking water from folks, that's considered.
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Speaker 2: Yes, war crime, and legal experts will say so is making threats with the aim of terrorizing or terminating a civilian population. So there are many legal minds who have said with this truth social post alone, regardless if he follows through with the threat, is a war crime in and of itself, because you are now putting civilians on notice that they are going to die at eight pm tonight if their government doesn't do what he tells them to do.
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Speaker 1: And to that point about the citizenry, they have been encouraged by the Iranians to go form human chains around these power plants. There is video coming out of people with Iranian flags. You got men, women and children. You got people out there actually standing in front of these plants, now robes. A lot of people are oh as is said to meet the moment, Da da dada. I'm sorry, we're reading another statement that just popped up here. Now, this is from the White House eight pm tonight do with the United States. Only the President knows where things stand and what he will do.
00:06:35
Speaker 2: This is a statement the White House saying only the president knows what he will do.
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Speaker 3: That is so frightening.
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Speaker 2: Isn't this the point of the way our government has been set up so one person can't literally take our military and do whatever he wants with it.
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Speaker 1: This isn't gonna happen, Okay, I am we gotta be crazy to think he would do Obviously he cannot do this. So I then go back to the question, then why say this?
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Speaker 3: Then why is I saying this out?
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Speaker 1: Because it is really damaging to think that you have quite I mean, I don't like characterizing the president. I'm not in his head, but the type of things you see, if someone attached, unhinged or mad may have to that sentence, not knowing where it came from you go, who is this crazy person?
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Speaker 3: Exactly? And look.
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Speaker 2: Brett Bhar with Fox News said that he spoke on the phone with the President after this true social post came out. I would like to read what Brett Behar said. We like who, we really like. I absolutely think he is a really good journalist and anchor.
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Speaker 3: He said this.
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Speaker 2: Brett told his audience President Trump said, eight pm is happening.
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Speaker 3: That's what he said. He said, it is.
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Speaker 2: If we get to that point, there is going to be an attack like they have never seen.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: He said, if negotiations move forward today and there is something concrete that could change, but at this hour, he didn't want to put odds on it, but he said, it is moving forward with the plans that we have.
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Speaker 1: You know, I I don't think it's necessarily okay to play this game, is what it feels like. I don't think so. Obviously he's not going to do this. Are we on the same page here? There is zero chance he is going to wipe out a civilization. It just can't be allowed. Is that we're on the same page?
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Speaker 3: I hope so.
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Speaker 2: But at this point I do leave a space for him to do something horrific.
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Speaker 1: He'll do something to say face is that? And I almost or thought Rod he does he know something behind the scenes? Does he already know we're getting to a point that we're going to have some kind of a deal or cease fire And he can ramp up this language as much as he wants, because then he'll be able to come back and say, Aha, see my strategy worked. I think I think he might know something.
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Speaker 2: Wouldn't Yes, that's possible, But wouldn't he also be threatening that ceasefire or whatever deal or whatever negotiations he's come to by posturing and blustering like this. Couldn't that piss off the Iranians enough where they would say, you know what, we were gonna do something, but now let's call you on your bluff. Let's play a little game of chicken. I would think he'd put it in jeopardy in some way by being this overt and this I don't even want to say strong, this insane to level a threat on this level.
00:09:26
Speaker 1: Hasn't he always he always has an off ramp, He always has a way to claim victory, to claim because you just read the Breadbear thing said like they've never seen versus wiping them out, like he's gonna find a way to say face. He's gonna do something big and something major to say Aha. But I showed mercy. See there's more of where that can. I just he's always good at saving face in some way. So I don't think he would say this stuff knowing he would have to eat crow.
00:09:54
Speaker 2: Right, because the off ramp for him is if negotiations move forward today, concrete bear. He did not say if the strait of horror moves is reopened. He said if negotiations move forward today, and there is something. But does it make okay what he did and what he said and what he put out there?
00:10:13
Speaker 1: At least we know, okay. See language and words they always matter. I didn't even catch that the.
00:10:19
Speaker 3: Second time around. This is what he said.
00:10:21
Speaker 2: This has created some stiff, as you might imagine, incredulous reaction from members of Congress, from just about everybody. Wait until you hear what the rest of America is saying about Trump's truth social post. Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ, where we are trying to dissect the unbelievable, unthinkable truth social posts that President Trump put out today where he absolutely said did not mince any words. That an entire civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again.
00:11:08
Speaker 1: What does he mean every Iranian will be killed?
00:11:12
Speaker 3: That is what that says to me.
00:11:14
Speaker 2: That is what I don't know how you could look at that first sentence and take any other meaning from it other than I am going to kill everyone.
00:11:23
Speaker 3: In Iran to night.
00:11:24
Speaker 1: It's threatening to kill an entire country of people.
00:11:28
Speaker 2: Yes, he didn't say a whole civilization will be changed tonight. He said a whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want it to have that to happen, but it probably will.
00:11:42
Speaker 1: That point, what is that It's almost like he's playing cute.
00:11:46
Speaker 3: It's almost like it's not me.
00:11:47
Speaker 2: I'm kind of being forced to do this because y'all won't do what I want you to do, so now you've left me no choice. It's kind of like what an abusive husband would say, why'd you.
00:11:56
Speaker 3: Make me do that?
00:11:57
Speaker 1: You know it?
00:11:57
Speaker 3: That's where he's coming from our ankle.
00:12:00
Speaker 2: It hurts me to hurt you, but you've put me in a position where this is the only thing I can do, which is.
00:12:04
Speaker 3: To kill all of you.
00:12:06
Speaker 1: Kill all of you.
00:12:07
Speaker 3: That is what he said. Let's not pretend he didn't say anything other than that this.
00:12:12
Speaker 1: Is some Fano shit from Avengers, like wiping out worlds. I will take you all out. And by the way, yes, we got distracted by the new statement we saw a second ago. But to that point, the Iranians have gotten that message. They have been asked to go out and form human chains and shields around these places, and video is coming out of Iranians actually being out forming human chains in some places. Mine, what's gonna happen? Are you still going to drop a bomb there and then blame the Iranians to say you're the ones that put your citizens at risk?
00:12:42
Speaker 2: That is going to be a war crime if it isn't already just by his words alone.
00:12:47
Speaker 3: And look we're hearing from Marjorie Taylor Green.
00:12:50
Speaker 2: I know she's extreme as well, but she was a Trump loyalist at one point.
00:12:55
Speaker 1: You know what, you say, she was extreme. A lot of people say she's come back to the same fact.
00:12:59
Speaker 2: So she is now obviously not in good graces at all with President Trump. But she put this out on x and a lot of people are agreeing.
00:13:07
Speaker 3: Her first line in all.
00:13:09
Speaker 2: Caps twenty fifth Amendment. Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point. Not a single bomb has dropped on America. We cannot kill an entire civilization. This is evil and madness, Oh.
00:13:24
Speaker 1: Horror, evil and what was the unthinkable? Those are the best words I've heard.
00:13:28
Speaker 2: Right, Well, okay, then we've got Look, we know Chuck Schumer is no fan of President Trump. He put this out on X This is an extremely sick person. Each Republican who refuses to join us in voting against this wanton war of choice owns every consequence of whatever the hell this is.
00:13:46
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what you do. It's not going to happen. It's awful language, it's awful to say. But he cannot do this, like there has to be I don't know what the fa now we really talking about this? What are our fail safes in place for anybody to be able to step up and say, hey, it's the president, we're not going to allow you to do this. You cannot do this. And that's I guess where the twenty fifth Amendment comes in.
00:14:04
Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, and you have.
00:14:06
Speaker 2: I couldn't even name how many Democrats have now called for President Trump's impeachment or absolute removal from office because of this, And I think it is fair to say, Look, we're journalists, this isn't again we always say this, but this isn't about Democrats and Republicans. This is about a man who is making a threat that is absolutely insane.
00:14:25
Speaker 1: Are we I mean, maybe we're not. Actually you were looking at it more than I was. Did you see some people in support of this statement, even if they're not Republicans necessarily, even if some maga folks in any social media saying this is the way you have to deal with him, This is what should be said. This is what I haven't seen that yet. I don't know how much of us grounds what. Hey, that's the video I'm talking about. You seen that? Wow?
00:14:46
Speaker 2: And we're looking at the news right now with I mean thousands of women with Iranian flags encircling power plants. Oh my god, because basically, and it's all women. I don't don't even see a man, only see women. This is chilling, women out in force by the thousands encircling Iranian power plants to call Trump on his.
00:15:14
Speaker 3: Baby.
00:15:15
Speaker 2: There's babies, there's women. Okay, there's some men, but that was unbelievable. All women and children surrounding Iranian power plants.
00:15:22
Speaker 1: Okay, this is escalating, This isn't going to happen. But how does he say, but I don't know, he's going to blow up something, He's going to do something, so damn So now you've organized.
00:15:34
Speaker 2: If you haven't looked and just turned on the news to see some of these images, to see crowds of Iranians now standing on bridges with a massive Iranian flag, with individual flags lining the bridges. So they are literally fortifying their bridges, their infrastructure, their power plants, with human shields, all of them.
00:15:56
Speaker 1: You know what this know what this does. This might give Trump and out. I am merciful. I am not going to take out women and children.
00:16:06
Speaker 3: After he said he was going to kill an entire civilization.
00:16:10
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a monster. They put their people in harm's way. I'm not gonna Maybe that's a way out. Let's hope, hope.
00:16:18
Speaker 2: I want him to find the off rap off ramp that makes him feel like he saved face, whatever it takes. At this point, this just cannot happen. But this is also to me, this is a larger issue that Congress and frankly the American people have to figure out how does one person have all this power when we had a government set up to avoid just this scenario.
00:16:43
Speaker 1: We've never seen anything like this before. We've never seen a guy like this before, not even close. And we've never seen, frankly, followers like this before who will There are very few that have broken out, like Margerie Taylor right, I've never seen anything to where I don't know if there's an anybody standing anywhere near him that would call him on something. Who has the right to say, wait, mister president.
00:17:05
Speaker 2: I mean, we have seen members of the military either removed, fired, or willingly resigning because they don't want to be a part of this military under his leadership.
00:17:18
Speaker 3: We have seen that.
00:17:19
Speaker 2: But you still have a situation in which one man who represents all of America threatening to wipe out an entire country and the people who live there.
00:17:29
Speaker 1: So those attacks have continued today again, but all this back and forth, there have been continued attacks throughout the day. The United States even credit for on carg Island, but not on the major energy infrastructure. So there were some attack quite frankly, the president, and some of the attacks are getting closer to this very vile area, so that continued today. The other thing I want to mention rogues one the forty five day ceasefire. That was hope yesterday. That was talk yesterday, that was a ceasefire being discussed, that mediators in the Middle East had sent a forty five day ceasefire proposal to the US and to Iran. It was rejected, So there was hope there that has gone away. I was playing for you here. The other thing that JD Vance, Yes, sound he is where he's overseas right now. Yes, he was making a making a speech and making comments and talking about today and he said them that got a lot of people's attention and got ears perked up, like wait a minute. He suggested robe that there is something in our arsenal that the president hasn't authorized yet, Like wait a minute, what? And it was scary because people think and it was suggesting nuclear weapons.
00:18:36
Speaker 3: That's of course exactly where your mind goes.
00:18:38
Speaker 2: And look, I hadn't even mentioned it before, but yeah, to think that this person has the nuclear codes, this person in power, our president, Yes, he has that available to him.
00:18:52
Speaker 3: And JD.
00:18:52
Speaker 2: Vance isn't hungary, by the way, but yes, he referenced that what else could he have been referencing.
00:19:01
Speaker 1: You know, they got all kinds of tricks and toys and advanced weaponry that we don't know about. So he could have been talking about anything. But folks, that is where we are right now. The clock is ticking. As of this at least as of this recording, we are less about seven hours. I guess Robes here away from a civilization being wiped out, as the President says. And also he said it yesterday that he could do this in four hours, say he'd wipe them out in four hours. I guess we had a few hours, Robes. Something could happen. Cooler heads could prevail, a deal could be struck. But we will see. Folks, who just wanted to hop on and give you that update, keep a close eye on it. We're keeping a close eye on it as always, top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app where you see our show page button there that says follow click that, make sure you subscribe and all the updates will be coming to you. But on behalf of my dear Amy Robot. I am TJ. Holmes. We'll talk soon.