Sept. 26, 2025
Tonight Was SUPPOSED To Be the Debut of Apple TV’s “The Savant.” Has It Become the Latest Casualty in the Wake of Charlie Kirk’s Assassination? It’s Star, Jessica Chasten Sure Thinks So.
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RSS Feed Apple TV has postponed its newest series, 5 years in the making, but has given no official explanation and no timeline for when it will air, if ever. “The Savant” is a series about an undercover agent (Jessica Chastain) who prevents extremist attacks, with scenes reportedly reminiscent of the Charlie Kirk assassination.
Apple’s abrupt decision to postpone the series has the show’s executive producer and star, Jessica Chastain, taking to social media to say she is “not aligned” with Apple’s decision.
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Speaker 1: Tonight was supposed to be a really big night for Apple TV. This was supposed to be the big debut of a series five years in the making, The Savant, starring Jessica Chastain. But Apple TV made the last minute decision this week to postpone the debut of The Savant. But it wouldn't publicly elaborate on the why. We're going to read their official statement shortly, but the series star Jessica Chastain is talking and she says this she is not aligned with Apple in its decision and will tell you why. It is Friday, September twenty sixth. Welcome to this edition of Amy and TJTJ. This was supposed to be a night. Can you imagine working on a project. She's not only starring in it, but she's the executive producer of it. She's proud of it. She's actually done a publicity tour over the last couple of weeks promoting The Savant, and then to be told by Apple TV, sorry, indefinitely postponed.
00:00:55
Speaker 2: For what you would want to ask and then you don't get a good answer. Lell me some Jesic Chestine, love me some Jessica Chesta. She is as solid and awesome as they get. And you think about rogues, all these a lot of these acts. Look, we see the finished product, but these things are years and years in development. You said five, But to think you're up to this final moment and it gets pulled. The reasons are they official?
00:01:26
Speaker 1: Well, I will read Apple's statement. How about that? Here is Apple's official statement. This is all they gave us. After careful consideration, we have made the decision to postpone The Savant. We appreciate your understanding and look forward to releasing the series at a future date. End quote that.
00:01:44
Speaker 2: Is being interpreted by many as we scared the death of Donald Trump and we don't even want to try it.
00:01:50
Speaker 1: Correct.
00:01:51
Speaker 2: So it does take some explanation, but it is a matter of another corporate giant seemingly making a business decision because they just don't want to test the waters in this certain kind of question.
00:02:03
Speaker 1: Correct. So, if you want to know, here's the storyline, and this will fill in the this will connect the dots or fill in the gaps for you from what Apple didn't say. Here's the storyline of The Savant. It follows an undercover investigator known as the Savant and that is Jessica Chestain's character. She her character infiltrates online hate groups to stop domestic extremists before they act. So it's about preventing extremist attacks and what the concern is. Folks who know and are familiar with the series say some of the imagery could be considered triggering in the wake of the assassination of Charlie Kirk because the series includes a sniper and the bombing of a government building, among other acts of violence. So everyone is saying that apple. So here's you could look at it a couple different ways. This is another example of a company making a decision about content in light of the Charlie Kirk assassen and that could be viewed as respectful, as a deliberate attempt to let some of the heated emotions surrounding Kirk's death soften. And that's for releasing the series. Yes, that's what ABC said they did. That was part of their reasoning for taking Kimmel off the air. They say it was because they didn't want to further inflame an already tense political situation.
00:03:18
Speaker 2: You said that's one way to look at Do you buy that? I mean, that's actually quite reasonable.
00:03:22
Speaker 1: I do think that that is part of the consideration. The other way to view it is that this is a company fearful of stepping into it, of stepping into the political firestorm and then getting backlash, whether it be from the Trump administration, from people who feel like that might be Again, here you have a certain part of the liberal e lead or the media or Hollywood now fanning the flames of this and inspiring other would be antagonists, and so that's the fear.
00:03:53
Speaker 2: So the suggestion would be that if they are highlighting hate groups on this show in all likely or do we even know they're not probably going to be left leaning hate group domestic terrorists, is.
00:04:07
Speaker 1: That we don't know what the creative I don't know. Here's what I do know. The Savant is based on a Cosmo article. So this happened in Cosmopolitan magazine in twenty nineteen, and the article's title was is it possible to stop a mass shooting before it happens? That article sparked this series and the idea behind it about the investigators who are working behind the scenes to stop these sorts of acts that unfortunately we've been seeing more and more of it.
00:04:35
Speaker 2: I was curious about the show because the lady who was a part of that article was considered a savant, if you will, and that she could identify right, she could see certain language and language that was used hate language, which is a lot out there, but she could tell which ones would be taken and used and turned into violence. And she had a knack for doing this. So that's what the show was supposed to be about. I think, given where we are, should we just are we not supposed to see? It's whose fault is it that this is timely? It should never be timely? But it is right now right?
00:05:08
Speaker 1: And by the way, here's another interesting tidbit. This isn't the first time Apple has postponed the series. Did you know that?
00:05:15
Speaker 2: It was, Sally? Yeah, the date was even that. Does that make sense? They were supposed to have it on September twelfth, twelfth?
00:05:22
Speaker 1: Yes, makes so. The show was supposed to debut on September twelfth, but Apple decided to push back the release date so that it wouldn't be so close to September eleventh.
00:05:32
Speaker 2: Is that legit as well?
00:05:33
Speaker 1: Does that look at a certain point? You know, I just look, I'm not an executive who knows how or why to make these types of decision. But just as a viewer, I would actually think, maybe call me crazy, I would actually think it would be timely too, have it be around a date. Not that you would do it deliberately, but if that's just where it worked out, you would kind of say. I would say, hey, this is on people's minds. This has been going on for twenty plus years and more. But this is a timely Unfortunately, as you pointed out, unfortunately timely series that actually could be interesting, informative and compelling for audiences to watch because we're living in it, We're in the thick of it. We've been dealing with this, so let's talk about what people are doing behind the scenes, of course in a fictionalized setting, but with some real life elements to it. I think it'd be fascinating and timely.
00:06:28
Speaker 2: But have we gotten too hot that we can't do anything, Like you can't tell a story because you know what's going to come and the criticism that's going to come, and now it is. Look, nobody was paying attention to Jimmy Kimmel on that Monday night until somebody pointed it out to the SEC chair who decides to open his mouth, like you're nervous as a as a corporate executive. Look at what the hell is happening to Disney and Stockburn. How much money has been lost all over late night comedy and jokes and content and entertainment, which is what this was going to be. Is this just where we are okay with the sensitive part you talk about September eleventh, September twelve.
00:07:03
Speaker 1: You know, I just say, hey, just push it back a week.
00:07:05
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm okay just to be maybe sensitive to some family members. I'm okay with that. This other thing now is just because I haven't. I don't. Even when some people are explaining it to me, it still doesn't make you know what I need to see it. And then I'll go, wait ooh is his heavy?
00:07:22
Speaker 1: Or I might go wait, well, it shows star and executive producer has now publicly disagreed with Apple's decision. And look, it is a slippery slope, and it's a frightening one to think that now we're so concerned or afraid of upsetting someone or pissing someone off. And I'm not just talking about President Trump and the administration, but just anyone at this point that we're afraid to put out valuable, potentially valuable interesting entertainment or products because we don't want to upset a certain segment of the population. And I think that is a very frightening precedent to set that. Now, that's where we are where now creatively we can't do or say things because it might get us canceled.
00:08:09
Speaker 2: This is the one what would we normally do. I mean, it happened with Jimmy Kimmel as well. But if somebody doesn't like what's going on on a network or streaming service, you could just not watch it. That's not enough anymore. It's not enough that you don't watch it, you actually don't want anybody else to watch it either. And now there are campaigns and social media campaigns where they're trying to get people fired, things taken down, people getting docked. It's different from just voting with your remote and not watching. You have to worry about a mob coming after you on social media and trying to take down your company. People have the right to do that, but it just seems like our first reaction to everything is outraged. That's the only emotion we have.
00:09:00
Speaker 1: And then when that outrage is empowered the way it has been and it has actual real life impact, then you're just Now It's just like when you're a parent and your child misbehaves. If you cater to that, they're just going to learn that if I shout louder and I stomp my feet more, I'll get what I want. That is what we are doing creatively, or at least a lot of organizations and companies are making a choice to do that so that they might maybe stop the bleeding initially. But what's the cost, what's dying in the process of it all. That's the thing that scares me about where we all see things headed and the direction companies are going in. They're making financial decisions and they're they're protecting themselves instead of defending their product.
00:09:51
Speaker 2: Good going on, Jessica Chastain, Like I said, I absolutely love what was the one she It was the Oscar, It was the Oscars we were at. She played a tem.
00:10:00
Speaker 1: Oh yes she was. I think she did win.
00:10:03
Speaker 2: Yes, just that was. I just adore this woman in her acting and everything about her. But I gave her credit Robes. I thought the statement she put out nailed it. It wasn't nasty. She made a very respectful and reasonable argument and she didn't dog Apple obviously, but to hear her like, oh, that makes sense, Apple just doesn't make sense to me yet because they haven't.
00:10:27
Speaker 1: Said enough, and by their lack of words and by not saying very much, if anything at all, that's where to me the problem lies, because it's so ambiguous, it's so vague. Again, there's a protection in this statement they made to protect themselves, and that makes them not look transparent, it doesn't. It makes people then try to read between the lines and fill in the void, and that's where the problems start and a lot of finger pointing begins. So when we come back, we are going to read for you Jessica Chastain's Instagram post that man, she nailed.
00:11:11
Speaker 2: All right, folks. Continuing now with Jessica Chastain. She accually used to I remember, this is why I tell you I love this one. But she says she loves the way the French say her name. She's always there. She's talked about this before. But again, Jessica Chastain had a new project we're all looking forward to The Savant that was going to be on Apple TV plus today.
00:11:30
Speaker 1: Till the day night they were going to drop two episodes tonight. That was the scheduled released after an earlier postponement.
00:11:36
Speaker 2: You will not be seeing that tonight, and we don't know when you might see it because Apple has made a decision to hold indefinitely that series because of some of the content could be triggering, giving some of the well, we saw a political assassination, we saw the ice facility being targeted. But the show is about a woman who has a knack for infiltrating hate groups and to in stopping domestic terrorism, if you will. And again, we don't know what it might have looked like, how similar any of those scenes might have been to some of the stuff we have been seeing in real life. But Apple has made a decision not to put that out just yet. Jessica Chastain not.
00:12:09
Speaker 1: A fan, yes, and she made a decision to put a very as you put it before the break, a very tasteful, a very appropriate reaction to that. Here is what Jessica Chastain wrote. I want to say how much I value my partnership with Apple.
00:12:24
Speaker 2: Well done to all of you. Let that be a lesson you always leave with that.
00:12:27
Speaker 1: They've been incredible collaborators and I deeply respect their team bang that said, transition, Yep, I wanted to reach out and let you know that we're not aligned on the decision to pause the release of The Savant. In the last five years since we've been making the show, we've seen an unfortunate amount of violence in the United States. The kidnapping attempt on Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, the January sixth attack on the Capitol, the assassination attempts on President Trump, the political assassinations of Democratic representatives in Minnesota, the attack on Speaker Pelosi's husband, the assassination of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk, the recent shooting at an ABC affiliate in California, and over three hundred school shootings across this country. This was before the Ice incident. How are markol Is that these incidents, though far from encompassing the full range of violence witnessed in the United States, illustrate a broader mindset that crosses the political spectrum and must be confronted. I've never shied away from difficult subjects, and while I wish this show wasn't so relevant, unfortunately it is. The Savant is about the heroes who work every day to stop violence. Before it happens, and honoring their courage feels more urgent than ever. That is such a good point. I got chills reading that.
00:13:51
Speaker 2: I don't know who wrote that is so well done. Even using the word we are not aligned versus I disagree, that was perfect.
00:13:59
Speaker 1: Perfect. She goes on to finish up with this. While I respect Apple's decision to pause the release for now, I remain hopeful the show will reach audiences soon. Until then, I am wishing safety and strength for everyone. And I'll let you know if and when this evant is released.
00:14:19
Speaker 2: January six, That was twenty twenty What year is that? Twenty twenty? God, what's this twenty twenty five? It was twenty twenty one? Is it January twenty twenty one? Okay, I'm thinking about all the incidents she named happened before this show was put together, Like all this stuff was done.
00:14:37
Speaker 1: It's not like they was being put together.
00:14:39
Speaker 2: But to think that all of these things happened, they weren't reacting right. If all these things had happened, they say, hey, let's do a show about Blank. This stuff was happening in real time as they're trying to put this show together. And she lists even a good job. Violence on the left, violence on all these high profile I.
00:14:56
Speaker 1: Forgot about Pelosi's husband. So all of this, I know that this is the recent I don't want to use the wrong word, but this is all the recent headlines coming from the Trump administration that this is all extreme leftists reaction, and they get very upset if anyone even possibly says that violence comes from both sides, extremism on both sides of the aisle.
00:15:20
Speaker 2: She didn't mention left and right. She just said this incident, this incident, this incident, and we know and we're familiar with all of these incidents now, but just that was well done. What's going to happen? Are we going to get any more from Apple? Maybe they want this thing to go away quietly. This is a little different from the Jimmy Kimmel thing because nobody's seen the show, right, Like, we don't know. To be mad and say, oh they took away my favorite show, we don't know.
00:15:42
Speaker 1: But here's the truth. I didn't know about the Savonne. I hadn't seen any of her promote because I said she had been promoting it. She went on to the Drew Barrymore Show. She went on late Night with Seth Myers when she was making appearances trying to drum up interest and publicity for this series. Well, guess what now it is on our radar. It should be on your radar. But I was saddened to hear her write this if and when the Savant is released. That has to be crushing to her to think that that is a possibility if well.
00:16:12
Speaker 2: Oh, see it eventually maybe, but something like to see this go away would be a shame just for the sake of creators. Can we not do anything because of what the world is? I mean, any movie you watch, any show you watch, has some imagery that you know, brings to mind something that's happening in real life in current times. I don't we get into this habit if we can't show or current share anything because you might be offended by the imagery. I mean, this is life and art.
00:16:41
Speaker 1: It feels like self imposed censorship, but done out of fear versus respect. And look, they can argue, and I'm not going to tell them that they're wrong, that they're doing it out of respect and not out of fear. Yes, but it's hard to believe that that fear part isn't a part of it.
00:16:53
Speaker 2: We should give them credit for that and maybe look, they've seen the show, they know more than we do, and maybe this was the right call. The problem and the difference here between this one and Jimmy Kimmel. What do you do about it? I mean, you can protest, you can go outside, you cannot watch Sinclair can pull it off the air. What do you do to Apple? What are you gonna do? What are you gonna protest?
00:17:13
Speaker 1: I thought Jessica Chastain did the best thing she possibly could have done. Let people know what's going on, be respectful to Apple's decision, while still letting people know her feelings about how important and vital and timely and actually needed. Perhaps this series is.
00:17:29
Speaker 2: Good conversation still in bringing this to our attention, But this you're not What are you gonna do? You're not going to boycott Apple? Really go go right now? Boycott Apple. Put away your phone, your iPod and your laptop. Yes, we just we can't.
00:17:43
Speaker 1: It's a massive company with a lot at steak and they make the decisions based best for their uh I guess financial bottom line at the end of the day.
00:17:50
Speaker 2: But it's not us who can hurt them. It's tear of happy Trump. What if he decides to start imposing some kind of terrorists.
00:18:00
Speaker 1: On computer chips, computer chips.
00:18:02
Speaker 2: On phones, on something, They need to give them hell, they have to think about this now. The President might get mad at us and make it more difficult for us to do our jobs. Therefore, we're going to sh be quiet, and that's where we are.
00:18:19
Speaker 1: That is where we are. But we hope we get to watch The Savant soon. And believe me, if the show comes on the air, we will watch. We might we'll do a podcast on every episode. It's so fascinating. We love Jessica Chastain that much, love how she handled this situation, and hope you appreciated hearing about it. And we will keep our ear to ground on this one. But thank you for listening to us. Everyone. I'm Amy roboch On, behalf of TJ. Holmes. We will talk to you real soon.
Speaker 1: Tonight was supposed to be a really big night for Apple TV. This was supposed to be the big debut of a series five years in the making, The Savant, starring Jessica Chastain. But Apple TV made the last minute decision this week to postpone the debut of The Savant. But it wouldn't publicly elaborate on the why. We're going to read their official statement shortly, but the series star Jessica Chastain is talking and she says this she is not aligned with Apple in its decision and will tell you why. It is Friday, September twenty sixth. Welcome to this edition of Amy and TJTJ. This was supposed to be a night. Can you imagine working on a project. She's not only starring in it, but she's the executive producer of it. She's proud of it. She's actually done a publicity tour over the last couple of weeks promoting The Savant, and then to be told by Apple TV, sorry, indefinitely postponed.
00:00:55
Speaker 2: For what you would want to ask and then you don't get a good answer. Lell me some Jesic Chestine, love me some Jessica Chesta. She is as solid and awesome as they get. And you think about rogues, all these a lot of these acts. Look, we see the finished product, but these things are years and years in development. You said five, But to think you're up to this final moment and it gets pulled. The reasons are they official?
00:01:26
Speaker 1: Well, I will read Apple's statement. How about that? Here is Apple's official statement. This is all they gave us. After careful consideration, we have made the decision to postpone The Savant. We appreciate your understanding and look forward to releasing the series at a future date. End quote that.
00:01:44
Speaker 2: Is being interpreted by many as we scared the death of Donald Trump and we don't even want to try it.
00:01:50
Speaker 1: Correct.
00:01:51
Speaker 2: So it does take some explanation, but it is a matter of another corporate giant seemingly making a business decision because they just don't want to test the waters in this certain kind of question.
00:02:03
Speaker 1: Correct. So, if you want to know, here's the storyline, and this will fill in the this will connect the dots or fill in the gaps for you from what Apple didn't say. Here's the storyline of The Savant. It follows an undercover investigator known as the Savant and that is Jessica Chestain's character. She her character infiltrates online hate groups to stop domestic extremists before they act. So it's about preventing extremist attacks and what the concern is. Folks who know and are familiar with the series say some of the imagery could be considered triggering in the wake of the assassination of Charlie Kirk because the series includes a sniper and the bombing of a government building, among other acts of violence. So everyone is saying that apple. So here's you could look at it a couple different ways. This is another example of a company making a decision about content in light of the Charlie Kirk assassen and that could be viewed as respectful, as a deliberate attempt to let some of the heated emotions surrounding Kirk's death soften. And that's for releasing the series. Yes, that's what ABC said they did. That was part of their reasoning for taking Kimmel off the air. They say it was because they didn't want to further inflame an already tense political situation.
00:03:18
Speaker 2: You said that's one way to look at Do you buy that? I mean, that's actually quite reasonable.
00:03:22
Speaker 1: I do think that that is part of the consideration. The other way to view it is that this is a company fearful of stepping into it, of stepping into the political firestorm and then getting backlash, whether it be from the Trump administration, from people who feel like that might be Again, here you have a certain part of the liberal e lead or the media or Hollywood now fanning the flames of this and inspiring other would be antagonists, and so that's the fear.
00:03:53
Speaker 2: So the suggestion would be that if they are highlighting hate groups on this show in all likely or do we even know they're not probably going to be left leaning hate group domestic terrorists, is.
00:04:07
Speaker 1: That we don't know what the creative I don't know. Here's what I do know. The Savant is based on a Cosmo article. So this happened in Cosmopolitan magazine in twenty nineteen, and the article's title was is it possible to stop a mass shooting before it happens? That article sparked this series and the idea behind it about the investigators who are working behind the scenes to stop these sorts of acts that unfortunately we've been seeing more and more of it.
00:04:35
Speaker 2: I was curious about the show because the lady who was a part of that article was considered a savant, if you will, and that she could identify right, she could see certain language and language that was used hate language, which is a lot out there, but she could tell which ones would be taken and used and turned into violence. And she had a knack for doing this. So that's what the show was supposed to be about. I think, given where we are, should we just are we not supposed to see? It's whose fault is it that this is timely? It should never be timely? But it is right now right?
00:05:08
Speaker 1: And by the way, here's another interesting tidbit. This isn't the first time Apple has postponed the series. Did you know that?
00:05:15
Speaker 2: It was, Sally? Yeah, the date was even that. Does that make sense? They were supposed to have it on September twelfth, twelfth?
00:05:22
Speaker 1: Yes, makes so. The show was supposed to debut on September twelfth, but Apple decided to push back the release date so that it wouldn't be so close to September eleventh.
00:05:32
Speaker 2: Is that legit as well?
00:05:33
Speaker 1: Does that look at a certain point? You know, I just look, I'm not an executive who knows how or why to make these types of decision. But just as a viewer, I would actually think, maybe call me crazy, I would actually think it would be timely too, have it be around a date. Not that you would do it deliberately, but if that's just where it worked out, you would kind of say. I would say, hey, this is on people's minds. This has been going on for twenty plus years and more. But this is a timely Unfortunately, as you pointed out, unfortunately timely series that actually could be interesting, informative and compelling for audiences to watch because we're living in it, We're in the thick of it. We've been dealing with this, so let's talk about what people are doing behind the scenes, of course in a fictionalized setting, but with some real life elements to it. I think it'd be fascinating and timely.
00:06:28
Speaker 2: But have we gotten too hot that we can't do anything, Like you can't tell a story because you know what's going to come and the criticism that's going to come, and now it is. Look, nobody was paying attention to Jimmy Kimmel on that Monday night until somebody pointed it out to the SEC chair who decides to open his mouth, like you're nervous as a as a corporate executive. Look at what the hell is happening to Disney and Stockburn. How much money has been lost all over late night comedy and jokes and content and entertainment, which is what this was going to be. Is this just where we are okay with the sensitive part you talk about September eleventh, September twelve.
00:07:03
Speaker 1: You know, I just say, hey, just push it back a week.
00:07:05
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm okay just to be maybe sensitive to some family members. I'm okay with that. This other thing now is just because I haven't. I don't. Even when some people are explaining it to me, it still doesn't make you know what I need to see it. And then I'll go, wait ooh is his heavy?
00:07:22
Speaker 1: Or I might go wait, well, it shows star and executive producer has now publicly disagreed with Apple's decision. And look, it is a slippery slope, and it's a frightening one to think that now we're so concerned or afraid of upsetting someone or pissing someone off. And I'm not just talking about President Trump and the administration, but just anyone at this point that we're afraid to put out valuable, potentially valuable interesting entertainment or products because we don't want to upset a certain segment of the population. And I think that is a very frightening precedent to set that. Now, that's where we are where now creatively we can't do or say things because it might get us canceled.
00:08:09
Speaker 2: This is the one what would we normally do. I mean, it happened with Jimmy Kimmel as well. But if somebody doesn't like what's going on on a network or streaming service, you could just not watch it. That's not enough anymore. It's not enough that you don't watch it, you actually don't want anybody else to watch it either. And now there are campaigns and social media campaigns where they're trying to get people fired, things taken down, people getting docked. It's different from just voting with your remote and not watching. You have to worry about a mob coming after you on social media and trying to take down your company. People have the right to do that, but it just seems like our first reaction to everything is outraged. That's the only emotion we have.
00:09:00
Speaker 1: And then when that outrage is empowered the way it has been and it has actual real life impact, then you're just Now It's just like when you're a parent and your child misbehaves. If you cater to that, they're just going to learn that if I shout louder and I stomp my feet more, I'll get what I want. That is what we are doing creatively, or at least a lot of organizations and companies are making a choice to do that so that they might maybe stop the bleeding initially. But what's the cost, what's dying in the process of it all. That's the thing that scares me about where we all see things headed and the direction companies are going in. They're making financial decisions and they're they're protecting themselves instead of defending their product.
00:09:51
Speaker 2: Good going on, Jessica Chastain, Like I said, I absolutely love what was the one she It was the Oscar, It was the Oscars we were at. She played a tem.
00:10:00
Speaker 1: Oh yes she was. I think she did win.
00:10:03
Speaker 2: Yes, just that was. I just adore this woman in her acting and everything about her. But I gave her credit Robes. I thought the statement she put out nailed it. It wasn't nasty. She made a very respectful and reasonable argument and she didn't dog Apple obviously, but to hear her like, oh, that makes sense, Apple just doesn't make sense to me yet because they haven't.
00:10:27
Speaker 1: Said enough, and by their lack of words and by not saying very much, if anything at all, that's where to me the problem lies, because it's so ambiguous, it's so vague. Again, there's a protection in this statement they made to protect themselves, and that makes them not look transparent, it doesn't. It makes people then try to read between the lines and fill in the void, and that's where the problems start and a lot of finger pointing begins. So when we come back, we are going to read for you Jessica Chastain's Instagram post that man, she nailed.
00:11:11
Speaker 2: All right, folks. Continuing now with Jessica Chastain. She accually used to I remember, this is why I tell you I love this one. But she says she loves the way the French say her name. She's always there. She's talked about this before. But again, Jessica Chastain had a new project we're all looking forward to The Savant that was going to be on Apple TV plus today.
00:11:30
Speaker 1: Till the day night they were going to drop two episodes tonight. That was the scheduled released after an earlier postponement.
00:11:36
Speaker 2: You will not be seeing that tonight, and we don't know when you might see it because Apple has made a decision to hold indefinitely that series because of some of the content could be triggering, giving some of the well, we saw a political assassination, we saw the ice facility being targeted. But the show is about a woman who has a knack for infiltrating hate groups and to in stopping domestic terrorism, if you will. And again, we don't know what it might have looked like, how similar any of those scenes might have been to some of the stuff we have been seeing in real life. But Apple has made a decision not to put that out just yet. Jessica Chastain not.
00:12:09
Speaker 1: A fan, yes, and she made a decision to put a very as you put it before the break, a very tasteful, a very appropriate reaction to that. Here is what Jessica Chastain wrote. I want to say how much I value my partnership with Apple.
00:12:24
Speaker 2: Well done to all of you. Let that be a lesson you always leave with that.
00:12:27
Speaker 1: They've been incredible collaborators and I deeply respect their team bang that said, transition, Yep, I wanted to reach out and let you know that we're not aligned on the decision to pause the release of The Savant. In the last five years since we've been making the show, we've seen an unfortunate amount of violence in the United States. The kidnapping attempt on Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, the January sixth attack on the Capitol, the assassination attempts on President Trump, the political assassinations of Democratic representatives in Minnesota, the attack on Speaker Pelosi's husband, the assassination of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk, the recent shooting at an ABC affiliate in California, and over three hundred school shootings across this country. This was before the Ice incident. How are markol Is that these incidents, though far from encompassing the full range of violence witnessed in the United States, illustrate a broader mindset that crosses the political spectrum and must be confronted. I've never shied away from difficult subjects, and while I wish this show wasn't so relevant, unfortunately it is. The Savant is about the heroes who work every day to stop violence. Before it happens, and honoring their courage feels more urgent than ever. That is such a good point. I got chills reading that.
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Speaker 2: I don't know who wrote that is so well done. Even using the word we are not aligned versus I disagree, that was perfect.
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Speaker 1: Perfect. She goes on to finish up with this. While I respect Apple's decision to pause the release for now, I remain hopeful the show will reach audiences soon. Until then, I am wishing safety and strength for everyone. And I'll let you know if and when this evant is released.
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Speaker 2: January six, That was twenty twenty What year is that? Twenty twenty? God, what's this twenty twenty five? It was twenty twenty one? Is it January twenty twenty one? Okay, I'm thinking about all the incidents she named happened before this show was put together, Like all this stuff was done.
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Speaker 1: It's not like they was being put together.
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Speaker 2: But to think that all of these things happened, they weren't reacting right. If all these things had happened, they say, hey, let's do a show about Blank. This stuff was happening in real time as they're trying to put this show together. And she lists even a good job. Violence on the left, violence on all these high profile I.
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Speaker 1: Forgot about Pelosi's husband. So all of this, I know that this is the recent I don't want to use the wrong word, but this is all the recent headlines coming from the Trump administration that this is all extreme leftists reaction, and they get very upset if anyone even possibly says that violence comes from both sides, extremism on both sides of the aisle.
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Speaker 2: She didn't mention left and right. She just said this incident, this incident, this incident, and we know and we're familiar with all of these incidents now, but just that was well done. What's going to happen? Are we going to get any more from Apple? Maybe they want this thing to go away quietly. This is a little different from the Jimmy Kimmel thing because nobody's seen the show, right, Like, we don't know. To be mad and say, oh they took away my favorite show, we don't know.
00:15:42
Speaker 1: But here's the truth. I didn't know about the Savonne. I hadn't seen any of her promote because I said she had been promoting it. She went on to the Drew Barrymore Show. She went on late Night with Seth Myers when she was making appearances trying to drum up interest and publicity for this series. Well, guess what now it is on our radar. It should be on your radar. But I was saddened to hear her write this if and when the Savant is released. That has to be crushing to her to think that that is a possibility if well.
00:16:12
Speaker 2: Oh, see it eventually maybe, but something like to see this go away would be a shame just for the sake of creators. Can we not do anything because of what the world is? I mean, any movie you watch, any show you watch, has some imagery that you know, brings to mind something that's happening in real life in current times. I don't we get into this habit if we can't show or current share anything because you might be offended by the imagery. I mean, this is life and art.
00:16:41
Speaker 1: It feels like self imposed censorship, but done out of fear versus respect. And look, they can argue, and I'm not going to tell them that they're wrong, that they're doing it out of respect and not out of fear. Yes, but it's hard to believe that that fear part isn't a part of it.
00:16:53
Speaker 2: We should give them credit for that and maybe look, they've seen the show, they know more than we do, and maybe this was the right call. The problem and the difference here between this one and Jimmy Kimmel. What do you do about it? I mean, you can protest, you can go outside, you cannot watch Sinclair can pull it off the air. What do you do to Apple? What are you gonna do? What are you gonna protest?
00:17:13
Speaker 1: I thought Jessica Chastain did the best thing she possibly could have done. Let people know what's going on, be respectful to Apple's decision, while still letting people know her feelings about how important and vital and timely and actually needed. Perhaps this series is.
00:17:29
Speaker 2: Good conversation still in bringing this to our attention, But this you're not What are you gonna do? You're not going to boycott Apple? Really go go right now? Boycott Apple. Put away your phone, your iPod and your laptop. Yes, we just we can't.
00:17:43
Speaker 1: It's a massive company with a lot at steak and they make the decisions based best for their uh I guess financial bottom line at the end of the day.
00:17:50
Speaker 2: But it's not us who can hurt them. It's tear of happy Trump. What if he decides to start imposing some kind of terrorists.
00:18:00
Speaker 1: On computer chips, computer chips.
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Speaker 2: On phones, on something, They need to give them hell, they have to think about this now. The President might get mad at us and make it more difficult for us to do our jobs. Therefore, we're going to sh be quiet, and that's where we are.
00:18:19
Speaker 1: That is where we are. But we hope we get to watch The Savant soon. And believe me, if the show comes on the air, we will watch. We might we'll do a podcast on every episode. It's so fascinating. We love Jessica Chastain that much, love how she handled this situation, and hope you appreciated hearing about it. And we will keep our ear to ground on this one. But thank you for listening to us. Everyone. I'm Amy roboch On, behalf of TJ. Holmes. We will talk to you real soon.