Nov. 5, 2026
TONIGHT: Florida To Tie Its Record Setting Year With Execution Of Jesse Guardado
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RSS Feed Florida is set to execute its 19th inmate of this year tonight. 64-year-old Jesse Guardado will die by lethal injection for the September 2004 fatal stabbing and robbery of an elderly woman who helped him find housing, gave him money and helped him get a job after being paroled for a series of armed robberies. Guardado admitted to the murder, but his attorneys have argued the abuse he suffered as a child should’ve been considered by the jury that unanimously voted to give him the death penalty.
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00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, November 5th, a triple execution day in the United States of America, and one of those executions taking place in Florida. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ, this particular one. Robes, we say they're all different. They're all unique. They all have some degree of similarity, but unique heinousness, I suppose. And this is one of them.
00:00:33
Speaker 2: Yes. We're talking about 64-year-old Jesse Gordaro. He is going to become the 19th inmate executed in the state of Florida. And that is significant because literally his execution will tie Florida's record-setting execution year of 2025. So that is of note. But yes, so is the crime itself. This happened back in 2004. So 22 years ago, he was, well, he was convicted of fatally stabbing and robbing a woman who helped him find a house, let him spend the night with her, gave him money, helped him find a job. This was all after he was out on parole for serving time for four armed robberies. It's a 75 year old woman. Her name was Jackie Malone. And if you read what this woman did, She sounds like a damn saint.
00:01:33
Speaker 1: You know, those, I don't know, Robes, if she wasn't a saint. I know. Life is precious. And you shouldn't feel any worse about, I guess, Robes, one way or another, depending on the victim. But there's something about this victim that just, it will turn you off to this guy forever. In a way that even if you are against the death penalty, this is one that will give you pause.
00:01:59
Speaker 2: It will because 75-year-old Jackie Malone, she was a real estate broker. She did volunteer work. for multiple organizations. And among her work, she was a guardian ad litem for abused and neglected children. Yes, she helped people be rehabilitated, to be reintroduced into society. And she was a woman who opened her arms, her home, and her wallet to a man who took that generosity and took that kindness and used it against her because he wanted more, he needed more. And he knew she would open the door if he came knocking. I, the detail about this, that he came prepared.
00:02:41
Speaker 1: This wasn't a split-second decision, right? He had a plan. And, you know, this, yeah, yes, it does make a difference. He was, how coked up was he at the time, right? This is a drug situation, but some of this behavior reeks of desperation and drug addiction.
00:02:58
Speaker 2: Yes. In fact, desperate was a word that was used when describing the motive behind this. They said that, yes, he would desperately... needed money for truck repairs, and to feed his crack cocaine addiction. And so, yes, he went to her home armed with a metal breaker bar. Do you know what that is? It sounds like a long metal pipe, right? And a kitchen knife. And he says he went to her home because, yes, he needed money, and he knew she would open her home to him any time of the day or night. He literally told police that. He targeted her because he knew she would open the door to him.
00:03:40
Speaker 1: He didn't have to break into anybody's house. Didn't have to worry about being confronted by anyone. Yeah, I mean, he had a plan, Robes. And there's been a couple of these where, I can't remember the one in particular, where a couple of guys break into a house, end up, I think, three people dead just because they were looking for some money and some drugs. Ended up tying somebody up and beating him. Two people walk in on it, they have to kill everybody. Drugs, these... We see these incidents, babe. And when folks are desperate for certain types of drugs, this ain't a marijuana situation. This is to make you act like this. And if you do the math, how old was he at the time, baby?
00:04:16
Speaker 2: Actually, so he's 64 now. This happened 22 years ago. So he was 42. Man. He was 42.
00:04:21
Speaker 1: To be honest, Ropes, isn't that a little.
00:04:27
Speaker 1: Old for some of the death row inmates we have seen, excuse me, for at least when they commit their crimes.
00:04:31
Speaker 2: Correct. But consider the fact that he was just paroled after serving time for four separate armed robberies. So this dude had been in prison for the majority, I would say, of his young adulthood, had just gotten out on parole, not even, I think just a little over a year. And she's helping guide him. She's helping him just get re acclimated to society. He's back on drugs. If he ever got off the drugs in prison and now is desperate. So listen to this because I, how the autopsy. So he, by the way, pleaded guilty, but the jury heard from folks about the murder because they were deciding whether or not to sentence him to death or to life in prison. So the medical examiner got up and testified during his trial and read the autopsy of this sweet 75-year-old Jackie Malone. Listen to what happened to her. She had at least 21 abrasions, contusions, and lacerations on the head, neck, and face. She had a hemorrhage. She had five stab wounds to the chest and at least two stab wounds on the neck. And the medical examiner testified to the jury telling them, that this 75-year-old woman was conscious throughout most of this attack until the final stab to the heart that ultimately killed her. He actually slit her throat, too. She wouldn't die. He actually said he kept trying to stab her and she wouldn't die. That is awful. But he took her purse, her jewelry box, her briefcase, her cell phone, and he got 80 bucks.
00:06:13
Speaker 1: 70 what? She's what again?
00:06:18
Speaker 2: 75 years old.
00:06:19
Speaker 1: That's just... Just to think of the horror and to think of that woman's life, it's just not supposed to end like that. Life is a.
00:06:37
Speaker 2: Why?
00:06:37
Speaker 1: This is one of the things.
00:06:39
Speaker 2: For 80 bucks?
00:06:39
Speaker 1: You ask. I mean, how does this happen? How can I don't know, Robe. We cover these, maybe we've had a long day here now. We've been talking about a lot. We started the day talking about familicide, a guy killing his two kids.
00:06:52
Speaker 2: It's tough.
00:06:52
Speaker 1: We got three executions today, Robe, and recalling all these stories is just, it's heavy.
00:06:58
Speaker 2: And life is precious. And I do think, yes, you can get weighed down in some of these darker stories, but there are lessons to be learned. Yeah. Look, cautionary tales from folks, you can't trust people, unfortunately, and sometimes your kindness is repaid with violence. It doesn't mean we shouldn't be kind, but trying to understand how these things happened, why they happened, it's tough.
00:07:19
Speaker 1: But we're supposed to be careful and kind, right? There are so many people who are in his situation who came out of prison and are leading model lives who needed help from a woman like this, and they didn't do this to them. I know, but it's just... This, man, has turned you off to things and people, and you don't want to trust, and you don't want to help, and you do want to hold people's past against them, and you do want to look at them with a, I don't know, some kind of a questionable eye. You're not supposed to, but this woman was just so sweet, and what she was trying to do, I just, babe, this is a devastating story.
00:07:59
Speaker 2: It is. It is. And look, Jesse Guardaro himself, after he confessed to police, the quote attributed to him, that lady didn't deserve what I did to her. So he pleaded guilty. He was sentenced to death in October of 2005. And look, after hearing that, you might say to yourself, who in God's name would be opposed to executing him? Obviously, there are groups out there, and Florida has a big group that puts out lots of information about many of these death row inmates, explaining why they did what they did, perhaps a little bit of their background to understand. No one's saying that these violent evil, I'm sorry, but evil criminals shouldn't be behind bars for the rest of their lives, but there is an argument to be made to spare his life. And theirs is that Guardado was sexually abused as a child, and he was one of the boys that sent to this school. And I was just reading about it. We were just talking about it, this now infamous school for boys called the Arthur G. Dozier School for Boys. This was a state-run school. And there are so many egregious charges about what happened in that school that the Department of Justice actually shut it down in 2011 after multiple investigations in into suspicious deaths of at least 98 boys. Yes, I said 98 boys. Sexual abuse, violence, murders. And I want to do a whole episode on this school because one of the death row inmates that will be executed later this month in the state of Florida also went to this school. But the record of the boys that came out of this school, how many of them were on death row? It's remarkable.
00:09:44
Speaker 1: It's more than two dozen, I remember. Robes, that doesn't seem possible. One school for boy? I mean, you can, I guess, describe this as a, this is a school for the worst of the worst, if you will. So maybe those, but still, how do you, I don't know how to recognize. that many people from one school who ended up on death row in Florida.
00:10:02
Speaker 2: Exactly. I have chills from head to toe thinking about it. And this is something that was not on my radar, but the Florida legislature back in 2017, like formally apologized for to the, they call them survivors of this boys' school. And Ron DeSantis himself signed legislation two years ago to give millions of dollars in compensation for people who graduated from this school, who suffered abuse, and to think that the man who's being executed tonight along with the man who's going to be executed in a few weeks, were also in this school at that time during all of this abuse and all of these suspicious deaths. So look, I know it's easy to say this man should die. What he did was horrific and unforgivable and evil, but there's always context to these stories.
00:10:55
Speaker 1: And Robes, you have to take, I don't know, baby. It's hard. You have to How much do you take into consideration? You know what's easier to do so when it's Chris the Pike? It's a woman who was 18. This was a boy who went through hell. It's hard to see him. There's a softer side you can see to a woman with long curly hair. So true. You can hear this. He's just a monster at this school. So kill him. Like I say, babe, we say it every time. There are always similarities, but there's just... the context and the storytelling and digging into it is, is worth noting. I don't remember. I know we watched it and I don't think it was, they didn't use the name, the, um, the Oscar movie, baby. Um, Nick, uh, nickel boys.
00:11:46
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:11:46
Speaker 1: I think it was based on this Dozier school. Was it not? It was based on a school for boys. They didn't use the exact name in there, but if you've seen that movie, This is what we're talking about and the abuses that happen to boys who we were told are the worst of the worst and we put them in there and we put them through the worst.
00:12:05
Speaker 2: And so you basically put young boys who were already troubled and now you basically put them all together with folks who are in charge who are also committing heinous acts against them and taking advantage and exploiting them. The fact that these boys don't have anywhere else to go, don't have a lot of people who care about them. There are so many layers to all of these stories. When we come back, we're going to talk about the next two executions scheduled in the state of Florida in just a matter of weeks. And yes, among them, that other graduate of the Dozier School for Boys. Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ. Jesse Guardaro is going to be the 19th inmate executed in the state of Florida. It is set to happen at 6 p.m. Eastern time in the state of Florida. He is set to die by lethal injection. And he is now the, I guess he ties the record for Florida's record-setting number of executions. But right now, there are still two more executions scheduled in the state of Florida. The next one is going to be on November 18th. It will be Florida's 20th execution, making it now, 2026, a record-setting year. Thomas Mitchell Overton. And again, a Dozier boy.
00:13:39
Speaker 1: What's the date on that one?
00:13:41
Speaker 2: That will happen on November 18th. He was convicted of killing a couple and their unborn child in the Florida Keys back in 1999. But it's interesting because one of the big groups, the anti-death penalty groups in Florida, they're called the Floridians for Alternatives to the Death Penalty.
00:14:00
Speaker 1: They're very active.
00:14:01
Speaker 2: Yes, very active. And they put out a statement based on Jesse Guardado today and then Thomas Overton, who's expected to be executed in a few weeks. They said Florida failed Jesse Guardado and Thomas Overton when they were children in its custody. The harm they later caused does not erase what the state did to them or relieve Florida of its obligation to reckon with that abuse. Florida's acknowledgement of the abuse at Dozier must extend to mercy for the men who survived it. All right.
00:14:32
Speaker 1: That's a lot of Dozier boys. Should they all immediately be commuted? Should their sentences all be commuted? Look, the governor has signed this death warrant.
00:14:41
Speaker 2: But he also signed legislation two years ago awarding millions of dollars to survivors of that same school.
00:14:47
Speaker 1: Wouldn't this be number one or at least one of the priority arguments that his lawyers are making for why he shouldn't be executed?
00:14:57
Speaker 2: Yes. And it has been. It has been. But it has not. It's fallen on deaf ears, so to speak. And so, yes, that has not been a consideration, unfortunately, despite the fact that his attorneys and this advocacy group is trying to make it. At least they're making it known. And It brought it to my attention. I was not aware of that before I read their statement. Look, it's something to consider. And then just a few weeks after that, on December 1st, Ricardo Gonzalez is set to be Florida's 21st execution. He was convicted of shooting and killing a North Miami Beach police officer during a bank robbery in 1992. So look, if all goes according to plan, Florida will be executing at least... 21 inmates this year. And that far surpasses any other state in this country.
00:15:55
Speaker 1: And Rooms, I'm remembering last year, the 19, and also it'll be 19 today. Do you remember, babe, much? I don't remember, if I'm forgetting, please, did one of these have a hiccup?
00:16:09
Speaker 2: Florida. Florida.
00:16:13
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's scheduled at 6. About 6.17, they're pronounced dead. Florida, you made this argument about Tennessee. You made this argument about some places that don't do this with great regularity. If you're out of practice, you might not get it right. Florida does not have a lot of problems.
00:16:31
Speaker 2: They are not out of practice. That is one way to put it. In fact, I believe a report came out this week about people are constantly trying to look into what went wrong with the Krista Pike botched campaign. execution attempt, but there are reports that no one practiced, like no one was basically practicing inserting IVs. It is not necessarily an easy thing to do, especially if you have someone who has a previous condition that's older, but Florida has had plenty of practice. I mean, they have been, um, executing people now for the past two years with ease. I mean, there have not been any hiccups that I can recall in this state because yes, They know what they're doing. They've got it down. They've even done a couple in one day without any hiccup whatsoever. So we're expecting this to go through. And yes, Jesse Guardado will be paying the ultimate price for this horrific murder back in 2004 and giving justice to the family of 75-year-old Jackie Malone. And with that, everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, November 5th, a triple execution day in the United States of America, and one of those executions taking place in Florida. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ, this particular one. Robes, we say they're all different. They're all unique. They all have some degree of similarity, but unique heinousness, I suppose. And this is one of them.
00:00:33
Speaker 2: Yes. We're talking about 64-year-old Jesse Gordaro. He is going to become the 19th inmate executed in the state of Florida. And that is significant because literally his execution will tie Florida's record-setting execution year of 2025. So that is of note. But yes, so is the crime itself. This happened back in 2004. So 22 years ago, he was, well, he was convicted of fatally stabbing and robbing a woman who helped him find a house, let him spend the night with her, gave him money, helped him find a job. This was all after he was out on parole for serving time for four armed robberies. It's a 75 year old woman. Her name was Jackie Malone. And if you read what this woman did, She sounds like a damn saint.
00:01:33
Speaker 1: You know, those, I don't know, Robes, if she wasn't a saint. I know. Life is precious. And you shouldn't feel any worse about, I guess, Robes, one way or another, depending on the victim. But there's something about this victim that just, it will turn you off to this guy forever. In a way that even if you are against the death penalty, this is one that will give you pause.
00:01:59
Speaker 2: It will because 75-year-old Jackie Malone, she was a real estate broker. She did volunteer work. for multiple organizations. And among her work, she was a guardian ad litem for abused and neglected children. Yes, she helped people be rehabilitated, to be reintroduced into society. And she was a woman who opened her arms, her home, and her wallet to a man who took that generosity and took that kindness and used it against her because he wanted more, he needed more. And he knew she would open the door if he came knocking. I, the detail about this, that he came prepared.
00:02:41
Speaker 1: This wasn't a split-second decision, right? He had a plan. And, you know, this, yeah, yes, it does make a difference. He was, how coked up was he at the time, right? This is a drug situation, but some of this behavior reeks of desperation and drug addiction.
00:02:58
Speaker 2: Yes. In fact, desperate was a word that was used when describing the motive behind this. They said that, yes, he would desperately... needed money for truck repairs, and to feed his crack cocaine addiction. And so, yes, he went to her home armed with a metal breaker bar. Do you know what that is? It sounds like a long metal pipe, right? And a kitchen knife. And he says he went to her home because, yes, he needed money, and he knew she would open her home to him any time of the day or night. He literally told police that. He targeted her because he knew she would open the door to him.
00:03:40
Speaker 1: He didn't have to break into anybody's house. Didn't have to worry about being confronted by anyone. Yeah, I mean, he had a plan, Robes. And there's been a couple of these where, I can't remember the one in particular, where a couple of guys break into a house, end up, I think, three people dead just because they were looking for some money and some drugs. Ended up tying somebody up and beating him. Two people walk in on it, they have to kill everybody. Drugs, these... We see these incidents, babe. And when folks are desperate for certain types of drugs, this ain't a marijuana situation. This is to make you act like this. And if you do the math, how old was he at the time, baby?
00:04:16
Speaker 2: Actually, so he's 64 now. This happened 22 years ago. So he was 42. Man. He was 42.
00:04:21
Speaker 1: To be honest, Ropes, isn't that a little.
00:04:27
Speaker 1: Old for some of the death row inmates we have seen, excuse me, for at least when they commit their crimes.
00:04:31
Speaker 2: Correct. But consider the fact that he was just paroled after serving time for four separate armed robberies. So this dude had been in prison for the majority, I would say, of his young adulthood, had just gotten out on parole, not even, I think just a little over a year. And she's helping guide him. She's helping him just get re acclimated to society. He's back on drugs. If he ever got off the drugs in prison and now is desperate. So listen to this because I, how the autopsy. So he, by the way, pleaded guilty, but the jury heard from folks about the murder because they were deciding whether or not to sentence him to death or to life in prison. So the medical examiner got up and testified during his trial and read the autopsy of this sweet 75-year-old Jackie Malone. Listen to what happened to her. She had at least 21 abrasions, contusions, and lacerations on the head, neck, and face. She had a hemorrhage. She had five stab wounds to the chest and at least two stab wounds on the neck. And the medical examiner testified to the jury telling them, that this 75-year-old woman was conscious throughout most of this attack until the final stab to the heart that ultimately killed her. He actually slit her throat, too. She wouldn't die. He actually said he kept trying to stab her and she wouldn't die. That is awful. But he took her purse, her jewelry box, her briefcase, her cell phone, and he got 80 bucks.
00:06:13
Speaker 1: 70 what? She's what again?
00:06:18
Speaker 2: 75 years old.
00:06:19
Speaker 1: That's just... Just to think of the horror and to think of that woman's life, it's just not supposed to end like that. Life is a.
00:06:37
Speaker 2: Why?
00:06:37
Speaker 1: This is one of the things.
00:06:39
Speaker 2: For 80 bucks?
00:06:39
Speaker 1: You ask. I mean, how does this happen? How can I don't know, Robe. We cover these, maybe we've had a long day here now. We've been talking about a lot. We started the day talking about familicide, a guy killing his two kids.
00:06:52
Speaker 2: It's tough.
00:06:52
Speaker 1: We got three executions today, Robe, and recalling all these stories is just, it's heavy.
00:06:58
Speaker 2: And life is precious. And I do think, yes, you can get weighed down in some of these darker stories, but there are lessons to be learned. Yeah. Look, cautionary tales from folks, you can't trust people, unfortunately, and sometimes your kindness is repaid with violence. It doesn't mean we shouldn't be kind, but trying to understand how these things happened, why they happened, it's tough.
00:07:19
Speaker 1: But we're supposed to be careful and kind, right? There are so many people who are in his situation who came out of prison and are leading model lives who needed help from a woman like this, and they didn't do this to them. I know, but it's just... This, man, has turned you off to things and people, and you don't want to trust, and you don't want to help, and you do want to hold people's past against them, and you do want to look at them with a, I don't know, some kind of a questionable eye. You're not supposed to, but this woman was just so sweet, and what she was trying to do, I just, babe, this is a devastating story.
00:07:59
Speaker 2: It is. It is. And look, Jesse Guardaro himself, after he confessed to police, the quote attributed to him, that lady didn't deserve what I did to her. So he pleaded guilty. He was sentenced to death in October of 2005. And look, after hearing that, you might say to yourself, who in God's name would be opposed to executing him? Obviously, there are groups out there, and Florida has a big group that puts out lots of information about many of these death row inmates, explaining why they did what they did, perhaps a little bit of their background to understand. No one's saying that these violent evil, I'm sorry, but evil criminals shouldn't be behind bars for the rest of their lives, but there is an argument to be made to spare his life. And theirs is that Guardado was sexually abused as a child, and he was one of the boys that sent to this school. And I was just reading about it. We were just talking about it, this now infamous school for boys called the Arthur G. Dozier School for Boys. This was a state-run school. And there are so many egregious charges about what happened in that school that the Department of Justice actually shut it down in 2011 after multiple investigations in into suspicious deaths of at least 98 boys. Yes, I said 98 boys. Sexual abuse, violence, murders. And I want to do a whole episode on this school because one of the death row inmates that will be executed later this month in the state of Florida also went to this school. But the record of the boys that came out of this school, how many of them were on death row? It's remarkable.
00:09:44
Speaker 1: It's more than two dozen, I remember. Robes, that doesn't seem possible. One school for boy? I mean, you can, I guess, describe this as a, this is a school for the worst of the worst, if you will. So maybe those, but still, how do you, I don't know how to recognize. that many people from one school who ended up on death row in Florida.
00:10:02
Speaker 2: Exactly. I have chills from head to toe thinking about it. And this is something that was not on my radar, but the Florida legislature back in 2017, like formally apologized for to the, they call them survivors of this boys' school. And Ron DeSantis himself signed legislation two years ago to give millions of dollars in compensation for people who graduated from this school, who suffered abuse, and to think that the man who's being executed tonight along with the man who's going to be executed in a few weeks, were also in this school at that time during all of this abuse and all of these suspicious deaths. So look, I know it's easy to say this man should die. What he did was horrific and unforgivable and evil, but there's always context to these stories.
00:10:55
Speaker 1: And Robes, you have to take, I don't know, baby. It's hard. You have to How much do you take into consideration? You know what's easier to do so when it's Chris the Pike? It's a woman who was 18. This was a boy who went through hell. It's hard to see him. There's a softer side you can see to a woman with long curly hair. So true. You can hear this. He's just a monster at this school. So kill him. Like I say, babe, we say it every time. There are always similarities, but there's just... the context and the storytelling and digging into it is, is worth noting. I don't remember. I know we watched it and I don't think it was, they didn't use the name, the, um, the Oscar movie, baby. Um, Nick, uh, nickel boys.
00:11:46
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:11:46
Speaker 1: I think it was based on this Dozier school. Was it not? It was based on a school for boys. They didn't use the exact name in there, but if you've seen that movie, This is what we're talking about and the abuses that happen to boys who we were told are the worst of the worst and we put them in there and we put them through the worst.
00:12:05
Speaker 2: And so you basically put young boys who were already troubled and now you basically put them all together with folks who are in charge who are also committing heinous acts against them and taking advantage and exploiting them. The fact that these boys don't have anywhere else to go, don't have a lot of people who care about them. There are so many layers to all of these stories. When we come back, we're going to talk about the next two executions scheduled in the state of Florida in just a matter of weeks. And yes, among them, that other graduate of the Dozier School for Boys. Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ. Jesse Guardaro is going to be the 19th inmate executed in the state of Florida. It is set to happen at 6 p.m. Eastern time in the state of Florida. He is set to die by lethal injection. And he is now the, I guess he ties the record for Florida's record-setting number of executions. But right now, there are still two more executions scheduled in the state of Florida. The next one is going to be on November 18th. It will be Florida's 20th execution, making it now, 2026, a record-setting year. Thomas Mitchell Overton. And again, a Dozier boy.
00:13:39
Speaker 1: What's the date on that one?
00:13:41
Speaker 2: That will happen on November 18th. He was convicted of killing a couple and their unborn child in the Florida Keys back in 1999. But it's interesting because one of the big groups, the anti-death penalty groups in Florida, they're called the Floridians for Alternatives to the Death Penalty.
00:14:00
Speaker 1: They're very active.
00:14:01
Speaker 2: Yes, very active. And they put out a statement based on Jesse Guardado today and then Thomas Overton, who's expected to be executed in a few weeks. They said Florida failed Jesse Guardado and Thomas Overton when they were children in its custody. The harm they later caused does not erase what the state did to them or relieve Florida of its obligation to reckon with that abuse. Florida's acknowledgement of the abuse at Dozier must extend to mercy for the men who survived it. All right.
00:14:32
Speaker 1: That's a lot of Dozier boys. Should they all immediately be commuted? Should their sentences all be commuted? Look, the governor has signed this death warrant.
00:14:41
Speaker 2: But he also signed legislation two years ago awarding millions of dollars to survivors of that same school.
00:14:47
Speaker 1: Wouldn't this be number one or at least one of the priority arguments that his lawyers are making for why he shouldn't be executed?
00:14:57
Speaker 2: Yes. And it has been. It has been. But it has not. It's fallen on deaf ears, so to speak. And so, yes, that has not been a consideration, unfortunately, despite the fact that his attorneys and this advocacy group is trying to make it. At least they're making it known. And It brought it to my attention. I was not aware of that before I read their statement. Look, it's something to consider. And then just a few weeks after that, on December 1st, Ricardo Gonzalez is set to be Florida's 21st execution. He was convicted of shooting and killing a North Miami Beach police officer during a bank robbery in 1992. So look, if all goes according to plan, Florida will be executing at least... 21 inmates this year. And that far surpasses any other state in this country.
00:15:55
Speaker 1: And Rooms, I'm remembering last year, the 19, and also it'll be 19 today. Do you remember, babe, much? I don't remember, if I'm forgetting, please, did one of these have a hiccup?
00:16:09
Speaker 2: Florida. Florida.
00:16:13
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's scheduled at 6. About 6.17, they're pronounced dead. Florida, you made this argument about Tennessee. You made this argument about some places that don't do this with great regularity. If you're out of practice, you might not get it right. Florida does not have a lot of problems.
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Speaker 2: They are not out of practice. That is one way to put it. In fact, I believe a report came out this week about people are constantly trying to look into what went wrong with the Krista Pike botched campaign. execution attempt, but there are reports that no one practiced, like no one was basically practicing inserting IVs. It is not necessarily an easy thing to do, especially if you have someone who has a previous condition that's older, but Florida has had plenty of practice. I mean, they have been, um, executing people now for the past two years with ease. I mean, there have not been any hiccups that I can recall in this state because yes, They know what they're doing. They've got it down. They've even done a couple in one day without any hiccup whatsoever. So we're expecting this to go through. And yes, Jesse Guardado will be paying the ultimate price for this horrific murder back in 2004 and giving justice to the family of 75-year-old Jackie Malone. And with that, everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.