(Thursday) Morning Run: Clancy Closing Arguments, Idaho Killer's Court Win, Peace Out Duke & Duchess, Meta Pays Big $$$, Serena Not Done, RIP Tim Curry, & MORE!

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Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ.

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Speaker 2: An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey there, everybody, and welcome to your Thursday Morning Run. It's Friday Eve, everybody. It's August 27th. I'm Amy Romo.

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Speaker 1: We've got a party going this morning. I'm TJ Holmes. Last thing we listened to was what?

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Speaker 2: 9 to 5.

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Speaker 1: 9 to 5. We've been listening to 9 to 5 and a lot of still Dolly Parton. The version we just listened to, we just learned this. I've been listening to this song for a couple years. It's called 9 to 5 to 9. It's this hip hop remix. It's her nephew that did it. I had no idea until yesterday.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: Saban. He is the son of her brother, Randy, I think it is. But yeah, he's the nephew and he made this cool. If you all get a chance, his name is Saban. The song is 9 to 5 to 9. It's awesome.

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Speaker 2: I know. That's the song. That's the version you always listen to. I had never heard it before, but now I kind of dig it.

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Speaker 1: I'm loving it. Yes, we're still talking about Dolly this morning. A couple of stories buzzworthy. Rose, I'm just going to hit you with this off the top because it comes from our home. Smyrna, Georgia. You know Smyrna, Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: In Cobb County in Mableton, where I had a house for a long time. A mail carrier was convicted this week. She had a route there for two years. Rose, they say she stole a million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: How do you do that on a mail route?

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Speaker 2: I guess she knew how to look for the envelopes that had checks in them.

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Speaker 1: A postal worker stole in two years.

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Speaker 2: A million dollars.

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Speaker 1: That sounded kind of like a lot to me.

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Speaker 2: Impressive and also highly criminal, obviously. But yeah, you always say if you could use those skills for good, think what you could do in the world.

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Speaker 1: I say that about... Even evil people who seem to have good people skills sometimes in getting people to follow.

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Speaker 2: They're effective in what they set out to do.

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Speaker 1: I could not believe this. So gift cards, she could tell which ones had gift cards maybe in them. She had tons of these things.

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Speaker 2: That's awful. I think of all the kids and all the gifts you send to people and they didn't get it. They never received it. They might not have even know it was headed their way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that jumped out at me. The other one was people love their Yeti, the water bottles. People are crazy about the water bottles.

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Speaker 2: Our daughter's.

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Speaker 1: Go crazy. What's coming up, baby? Football season. Yeti just came out with 12 new Yeti bottles specifically for college football season. They only did 12 schools. Would you like to hear the 12 schools? Yes. Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Why'd you have to start with that?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm doing alphabetical order. Uh-huh. Alabama, Florida, LSU, Michigan State, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State, Texas A & M, Texas, Texas Tech, no Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: No Georgia.

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Speaker 1: It was up there. It's on the list. Oh, you just left it out?

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Speaker 2: I was like, how is that possible?

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Speaker 1: I just skipped it, obviously, yes.

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Speaker 2: Oh, sorry about the Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: They left the hogs out. I don't even like these stupid-ass water bottles anyway.

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Speaker 2: I got Georgia and Michigan State. I was born in East Lansing, so yes, I could have either or.

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Obviously, I just picked the most popular. brands and popular teams and whatnot. And successful, I should say. But I thought this was funny. Obviously, I saw the headline. I went through.

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Speaker 2: Oh, no Razorbacks. Maybe next year, babe.

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Speaker 1: We've been saying that for 15 years. Welcome, everybody, on this, yes, it is a Friday eve, a big day, and a couple of courtrooms we'll get into, but we'll be making stops in, yes, Massachusetts, Los Angeles, Flushing, New York, and we'll be making a stop somewhere in the UK.

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Speaker 2: Outside of London.

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Speaker 1: We don't know exactly where yet because, well, they haven't given us, they didn't forward us their new address, Robes. When they move, everybody knows what story we're talking about, but let's start here, Robes. This is without question. The biggest day so far in the Lindsay Clancy trial because this is the day. Babe, no more testimony. I can't believe it. I know.

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Speaker 2: We have been listening to testimony for five weeks. And I say we. Yes, the two of us. We have seen almost every moment of testimony. I don't even know how we squeezed it all in, but we would keep it on, pause, and come back and keep watching.

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Speaker 1: You know what? That's been great that Court TV and Law and Crime, several places, even if we miss it live, we can just go back and pick up. So yeah, it has given us ability to damn near watch every word of testimony.

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Speaker 2: It's been remarkable. And so finally, yes, closing arguments scheduled for this morning in the Lindsay Clancy triple murder trial. Clancy admits to strangling her three young children, but she has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity, specifically postpartum psychosis.

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Speaker 1: So we did hear from the final rebuttal witness for the prosecution yesterday, a psychiatrist who told the jury he believes Clancy was not guilty. in psychosis and was able to determine right from wrong at the time of the killings. Now, after they let the jury go and after the testimony yesterday, they came back and the attorneys had to work out with the judge the charging, what do they call them? The jury charge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the jury charge.

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Speaker 1: The jury charge.

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Speaker 2: Charging conference.

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Speaker 1: Jury instructions is what we're talking about. Robes, this is huge. They're going to be able to consider manslaughter a lesser charge than the first degree. This lessens the idea of a hung jury. This lessens the possibility of robes. It gives them an option to not send her to prison the rest of her life.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, because basically if they agree collectively that, yes, Lindsay Clancy was suffering from a mental illness, but that mental illness didn't completely absolve her of criminal responsibility. So it really is a good option between... First and second degree murder doesn't even seem possible because I think it's been pretty clear she premeditated it. She planned it. So that really wasn't even a possibility if you think about what that charge is. But to go all the way from premeditated first degree murder. that manslaughter charge is going to be huge. So that will be significant. And yes, closing arguments, they're expected to take about 90 minutes this morning. We will continue to cover this trial throughout the morning. So please check your feed. We're going to be giving updates throughout the morning as we wait for the jury to finally start deliberating.

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Speaker 1: All right, we continue on the run here now. The man convicted in the murders of four University of Idaho students has been granted a new hearing. This is going to be in Evidentiary hearing for Brian Kohlberger. He already pleaded guilty to the quadruple murders last year to avoid the death penalty, but now says he wants to take it back.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and guess what? That's fine. He wants to take back his guilty plea, but he's going to have to wait nearly a year for a shot at a new trial because that new hearing is set for next June. June 17th, 2027. I don't know why... There's that big extended period of time, but Koberger is currently serving four consecutive life terms for the 2022 stabbing deaths of roommates Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogan, Zana Kernodle, and her boyfriend Ethan Chapin.

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Speaker 1: All right, continuing on this run now, the frantic rescue efforts are underway in Nepal. 47 Americans among the The 1,300 missing after those unbelievable, devastating scenes of water and mud sweeping through towns and villages along that Nepal-China border. 165 people are confirmed dead. Robes, they expect that to rise. Don't know how far, but I guess a lot of people have seen that video by now and more keeps coming out. And as soon as we look up, as we're speaking, it comes up on our television. This is apocalyptic type stuff. We don't, this is other level. We can't believe what we're seeing in these pictures.

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Speaker 2: Apocalyptic is absolutely the only way to describe this. This is beyond frightening. I know we, you go back to all those years ago in Phuket with the tsunami. It looks like that, but you have so many different angles, so many different cameras just to see the utter, And this was all triggered by a glacial collapse. So are we talking about global warming? Yeah, they said earthquake initially, but glacial collapse, that would imply global warming. Yes, our glaciers are melting, and this has been what scientists have been warning about.

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Speaker 1: All right, we continue here on this Friday Eve run now with Meta. Parent company of Instagram has agreed to pay upwards of $ 17 billion to To settle this landmark lawsuit, several states sued Meta, alleging the company not only failed to protect kids, but in fact designed products specifically to get the kids addicted.

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Speaker 2: Wow, and so as a part of this settlement, with 47 states, Meta has agreed to add some new safety features, and they urged other social media companies... To do the same, and perhaps just by seeing this massive payout, they'll be incentivized financially to do the same.

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Speaker 1: It was really hard for me to get my head around. Jesus Christ, they are really admitting to something significant. There's a trial currently going on that that one essentially stops, but $ 17 billion. And then I looked at they made $ 200 billion in revenue last year.

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Speaker 2: Oh. Yeah. They can afford it.

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Speaker 1: They might not even notice it, for God's sakes. My God. But yeah, I know that's a lot of money, but they make a lot of money. Continuing on the run here now, Robes, this tough one, Tim Curry. Actor Tim Curry, a longtime and legendary character actor, has died at the age of 80. Robes, we didn't get a cause of death, but they say he died at his home in L.A. But Robes, this guy is unbelievable as an actor.

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Speaker 2: He really is.

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Speaker 1: Oh, my God.

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Speaker 2: As soon as you see his face, you love him, and he's not always played lovable characters.

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Speaker 1: But all of his evil characters were quirky.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: And lovable. Something about them. Oh, he's great. Yes.

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Speaker 2: He had a way of being menacing, even scary as hell. As in, like, ruined my childhood scary, and yet you see his face everywhere. and you feel warmth. I don't know how he pulls this off. I say that mainly because he was Pennywise in It, and that, of course, just was a huge part of my growing up. But yes, a lot of people remember him from the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

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Speaker 1: They say that was his iconic one. That was the one. And Robes, I didn't piece it together, but it made him an LGBTQ plus icon. Because at the time, this was mid-70s. And you didn't see a lot of that, but he played a trans villain of some kind. But what was it? Transsexualvania?

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Speaker 2: Dr.

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Speaker 1: Frankenfurter. But it was just a weird kind of movie. And he played this full on, in a way, Robes, that you didn't see a lot.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: And it made him an icon.

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Speaker 2: He was Rooster in Annie.

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Speaker 1: Robes, that was a good one. That was a good character.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he was great in that. He absolutely was. And then Concierge, Home Alone 2.

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Speaker 1: He was the guy who did Battle with Macaulay Culkin at the Plaza.

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Speaker 2: That is so funny. He just, yes, he just had a quirky, fun, just energy that came off him, even as Pennywise. Pennywise was evil, but kind of quirky and funny.

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Speaker 1: The new Pennywise is scarier than he was.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's, who is that?

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Speaker 1: That's from the Scarsguard.

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Speaker 2: Yes, one of the Scarsguards. I can never remember which brother it is.

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Speaker 1: How many are there?

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Speaker 2: Three?

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Speaker 1: Can you name them?

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: What about the dad?

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Speaker 2: Peter? No.

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Speaker 1: We can never get the Scarlet Girls right.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: But the OG Pennywise was Tim Curry in Rogue. A lot of people won't even remember this, but my favorite role he played was in The Hunt for Red October. He played the medical officer who went head to head with Sean Connery. He was trying to say we've got to do things on the up and up. He was the medical officer. And it wasn't some funny role, but he played a wonderful character that went head to head.

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Speaker 2: Only you would remember that. I've only seen the movie like once or twice. It's a great movie, but I would never remember that.

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Speaker 1: Sean Connery, there's a line he delivers. Captain! I see right now. One line. Tim Curry, rest in peace, my man. He gave us so many great characters. Well, stay with us here on this Friday Eve run. When we come back, Dick's Sporting Goods is pulling products from its stores over an ad that a company put together. Robes, I can't believe this ad got approved by anybody. Also, we'll let you know where the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are now, at least where everybody thinks they are. And, oh, yeah, by the way, we told you Serena Williams lost at the U.S. Open. Guess what? Her Open ain't over yet. Hey, we are back here on this Friday run. And Dick's Sporting Goods. Robes has removed a golf company's merchandise from its stores. Removed them online as well. The company is Good Good Golf. Now, we, you might not be familiar, but this is a popular online media creation company. It actually started Robes as a YouTube channel. Got very popular, evolved, and now it's a lifestyle brand and an apparel company. And yes, they have their products in Dick's Sporting Goods.

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Speaker 2: So the company partnered with Callaway Golf to release an ad that was promoting a new product. In that ad, the good, good CEO literally pushes a woman to the ground.

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Speaker 1: It's supposed to be funny. It's supposed to be cute and clever. But the guy is going over and he sees someone trying to, a hand is trying to grab his Callaway driver. And then he runs over from a distance and shoves the person trying to pick it up. That person happens to be a woman. And so what you literally see is a man run.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching it right now.

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Speaker 1: And throw a woman, push a woman to the ground. Just listening to that, I don't care. It's bizarre. It's bizarre.

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Speaker 2: And what I can't believe, because when you watch it, and I encourage everyone to pull it up, it's readily available online. I don't understand how that made it past anyone. Were there no women in the room? And honestly, I wouldn't even put that on a woman. You're a man. If you saw that ad and it was being approved, you'd be like, y'all, what are you thinking? You can't show a man pushing a woman to the ground.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that. That's bizarre. Look, this is not some kids making TikToks and playing around in the background. Robes, I cannot believe this. And so you talk about approving it. Robes, somebody wrote a script and said, hey, what do you think about this? This will be funny. What do you think about this? Then you got photographers involved. You got an audio guy. You got a producer there. You got everybody participating. No one saw a problem? And then it got screened, Robes, after all that.

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Speaker 2: I have no explanation for it because- I don't know how it happens. Look, I'm not easily offended. That is horrible.

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Speaker 1: That is tone deaf as hell. I don't get it. That is horrible. I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: Especially with men in sports and the stereotype. Not that golfers are necessarily known for it, but still, it's- Just not okay to promote a man pushing a woman to the ground.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It wasn't a shot. She goes back.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like she just tripped and fell and everybody laughed. She fell to the ground.

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Speaker 1: To her back is what they showed. So this backlash has been going on for about a week now. The company apologized, say the ad didn't align with its values.

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Speaker 2: That's a weak statement.

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Speaker 1: Kind of, sort of.

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Speaker 2: We effed up big time. And put a donation to like Battered Women's Association or something.

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Speaker 1: Don't even do that. I would like somebody to come out. How do you, ropes, 10, 20, 30, 40, how many people are involved in that? Oh, at least. I don't know how that happens, baby. That's when you don't give enough people agency and power to say, hey guys, let me speak up here and just give you a heads up. That's not going to work. You got to listen to somebody. There are not 10 people. You can't put that ad in front of 10 people on the street. And they would say, yeah, go with that.

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Speaker 2: They'd be like, ooh, what was that?

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Speaker 1: Anyway, all right, continuing on the run here now. All right, they're back. We're upstate. The Harry and Meghan. We're going to miss them. They're out of here. And I mean that. They are no longer U.S. citizens as of this moment, we're told.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're citizens still probably.

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Speaker 1: They're just not residents. Excuse me, they are no longer residents. Was Harry ever? No, Harry never became a citizen.

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Speaker 2: He probably never became a citizen, but he could apply for dual citizenship, I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: What about Meghan? What does she ever do with that? Is she a?

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Speaker 2: Unclear.

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Speaker 1: I don't. Don't you automatically get something if you're a royal? Surely she's got duel. Maybe.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine she's got an ability to come in and out without going through customs like the rest of us. But yes, Harry and Meghan are in the UK. According to multiple outlets, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have arrived back in England along with the kids to start what's being described as an extended stay.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're using now. Have you seen this everywhere?

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Speaker 2: Yes, an extended stay because they've kept their home in Montecito. So and I even heard that they're chickens. They've they've left their chickens back home. And Mama, I thought that Mama might come. Megan's mom. They say she has stayed back in California, too, all pointing to the fact that this may not be a permanent move.

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Speaker 1: An extended stay, though. I mean, that's like. Two weeks at my parents' house. That's an extended stay.

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Speaker 2: This might be a school year.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, yes, it was just last week. We got news that the two plan to move back to the U.K. after being in Southern California the past six years. Like you said, the kids are enrolled. There's word that Megan might be looking into acting again. I'm laughing even more now thinking about they're no longer citizens. I want to say. Because it goes in line with, like, they don't have a home. Nobody wants them.

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Speaker 2: They have multiple homes. I'm not worried about that.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm saying a country.

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Speaker 2: I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Like, they don't have a... Like, he finally gets to go back to his homeland kind of a thing. It just... I don't know. They felt like they're just flapping in the wind and nobody wants them.

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Speaker 2: Home is wherever... their significant other is.

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Speaker 1: It's wherever the UK says it can be right now.

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Speaker 2: That's true. All right, for the final leg of our run, the US Open ain't over yet for Serena Williams. This is a great story to end on. She returned to the Open this week for the first time in four years, but she pretty much immediately lost in her mixed doubles match with Carlos Alcaraz.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we thought it was done. However, you've heard this plenty of times about these wild cards they can hand out. Yes, the Tennis Association has a discretion to hand out wild cards and essentially give people spots in the tournament. Maybe they didn't earn them traditionally, but sometimes it goes to some old heads, some legends, or whatever it may be. And yes, here we go. USTA announced they will give Serena and Venus wild cards to play doubles together.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to get to see them together. I think that starts next week, the doubles portion. And they have twice, Rose. They've won it. That's exciting.

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Speaker 2: The U.S.

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Speaker 1: Open twice before?

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Speaker 2: Look, that's a spectacle in and of itself, just to get to see them play together. Will that ever happen again? This is one of those moments where that would absolutely be the admission would be worth the price. Wait, it'd be worth the price of admission. Thank you. I'm doing really well today.

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Speaker 1: You're nailing it. All right.

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Speaker 2: For your quote of the day on this Friday Eve, I loved this one. There is only a small window in life when everyone you love is here at the same time. One day you'll realize these ordinary moments were never ordinary at all.

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Speaker 1: When everyone is here, we're talking about family?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking about that. Just even whether it's alive or in the same room, there are different ways you can look at that. But it's just kind of about taking stock and appreciating who's in the room. There is only a small window in life when everyone you love is here at the same time. One day you'll realize these ordinary moments were never ordinary at all. Yeah, when I was just calling my mom, I was taking stock of the fact that I get to call my mom. Not everybody gets to do that, and I won't one day either. But it's just that moment of recognition that there are things to always be grateful for. I like that. everyone, thank you for running with us on this Thursday. I'm Amy Robach.

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Speaker 1: And I'm TJ Holmes. A reminder, we're keeping a close eye on the Lindsay Clancy case today with closing arguments. You can look in our feed. We're going to focus for this morning on our feed on a couple of things, including the connection, the very close connection, the Clancy case has to the Andrea Yates case. It's kind of jaw-dropping, the similarities and the overlapping psychiatrists in these two cases. We'll explain that. We'll also give you an update when we do hear those closing arguments. We will hop on immediately and let you know how that went. So please keep an eye on our feed today. We always appreciate you listening. I am TJ on behalf of, yes, my dear Roebuck. We will be running with you all soon.