Oct. 8, 2026
(Thursday) Morning Run: 1st Execution Since Pike, Possible MI Serial Killer, Mall Attack Stopped, Cornell Sit-In, College Suspends Frats, Marathon Cheater Busted, & MORE!
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Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ.
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Speaker 2: An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey there, everybody, and welcome to Morning Run.
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Speaker 3: It's Thursday, October 8th. I'm Amy Robach.
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Speaker 1: And I'm TJ Holmes. How'd you sleep last night, honey?
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Speaker 2: I think I slept pretty well. I actually didn't check my aura ring.
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Speaker 4: Why don't you let your dog sleep with you like so many Americans do?
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Speaker 3: I am not a fan of... Honestly, I love my children.
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Speaker 2: I loved them when they were babies, but I really don't want anyone sleeping in my bed. So I didn't, I was an anti-child, anti-animal bed household.
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Speaker 1: Well, there is a thing.
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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't people want the dog to sleep in the bed? What are their reasons for not?
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Speaker 2: My reasons are plentiful. I don't want another like warm body. Someone's waking me up, moving around.
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Speaker 1: I got a new study on this is why I'm bringing it up right now.
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Speaker 2: And then the other thing is just, I don't know, like, is he clean enough did he you know just the shower like i just he only gets a bath once every couple weeks.
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Speaker 4: Okay well some people now are saying that uh you know some people don't want it because it's going to disturb them while they're sleeping dogs in the bed It's not the case. That's what the new study is telling us from the University of Toronto. They put trackers like Fitbits on the dogs and on the people. Turns out it's the people disturbing the dog sleep.
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Speaker 3: That's hilarious.
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Speaker 4: And not the other way around. They're able to actually track this. And people who are asleep did not have their sleep impacted by the dog.
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Speaker 1: They can see by the tracking.
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Speaker 4: However, they do notice that the movement is about the same time. And it's usually the human first wakes up the dog. The human goes back to sleep and the dog is up for a little bit. We are disturbing the dog's sleep.
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Speaker 3: That's hilarious. So, yes, maybe it's just, yeah, I'm trying to be kind.
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Speaker 1: To the dog.
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Speaker 4: There it is.
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Speaker 3: No, I'm actually just trying to protect my peace. That's just me being honest.
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Speaker 4: I laughed because I saw that and just the other day I had to swat the dog out of the bedroom because it was sleeping on my side for some reason.
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Speaker 3: He wants to be in the bedroom, but he is not.
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Speaker 1: He's not allowed to be.
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Speaker 3: He's got his own bed.
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Speaker 1: It's expensive, too.
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Speaker 4: Well, good morning to you all as we get started. Maybe your dogs are hopping out of bed with you this morning, wherever you may be. Hope you are getting a good start to your day. And certainly the folks down at the Gulf Coast, we are thinking about you. It's going to be a rough couple of days down there. We'll get into that. But we're making stops all over the place today, including in Minneapolis. Going to make a stop in Berlin as well. Also in Nashville, we'll make a stop at the University of Arizona, the cafeteria at Cornell, and we will make a stop first at the Texas Death Chamber Robes, after what we saw last week, there was increased intention on what was going to happen last night in Texas.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: And it did take a little while, but Texas eventually showed them how it's done by successfully, yes, this time, executing an inmate last night. And we should point out they used the exact same method. that Tennessee used in its botched execution of Krista Pike. Jamal Howard was pronounced dead at 8.03 p.m. Central Time last night after he was given a single dose of pentobarbital.
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Speaker 4: So it can work, is what you're telling me. So yes, Texas is a one-dose lethal injection state like Tennessee. Howard had been on death row for the 2,000 killing of a convenience store clerk by the name of Vicki Swartout. The execution appeared to go forward without a hitch, but as you said, Robes, without a hitch, I guess, in the room, but there were at least some holdups and a slight delay. And Robes, we were watching this late last night thinking, oh my goodness, are we going to have a... Because we didn't know what was going on, we just knew there was a delay.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 2: And we go to bed early, and now you add another time zone to the mix, and.
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Speaker 3: It was past our bedtime.
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Speaker 2: But yes, Howard did have several appeals that were pending before the Supreme Court. Those appeals were not resolved before the planned 6 p.m. execution time. So it was delayed actually quite a bit.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he was delayed in getting an answer and all that for at least an hour, but it ends up being delayed.
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Speaker 2: Two hours, right?
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Speaker 4: Two hours before he was declared dead from that 6 o'clock execution time.
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Speaker 3: That has to be fairly excruciating, just the waiting.
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Speaker 2: The waiting is the hardest part, but when you're waiting for a thumbs up or a thumbs down for the Supreme Court, that's got to be pretty tough. But his final words, and we do appreciate it when there is contrition. This is rare.
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Speaker 3: When there is accountability.
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Speaker 2: He said, I apologize to the Swartout family, and I wish you had closure and peace. I wish that you accept my apology, and I wish for your forgiveness. I'm sorry for what happened. I thank y'all. Hey, enjoy life and peace to y'all. Warden, that's it. I'm ready.
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Speaker 4: That's chilling stuff, baby. That's just the death penalty, the executions. It's hard to ever get comfortable, just the ceremony of death. Those are the last words from him.
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Speaker 1: Again, this is rare.
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Speaker 4: We cover all of these the past few years. It's rare that they apologize at the end.
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Speaker 2: And I just look, I've never had anyone in my family who I love die by a violent crime. But I can only imagine that that has to do something and mean something to get that apology.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 4: Well, we will continue here on this Thursday morning run. Going to head to Michigan where police there think they might have a serial killer on their hands. There have been at least five murders that police say robes have similarities. All of this in the Lansing area.
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Speaker 3: Yes, my birthplace.
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Speaker 2: As the police chief put it, we look for trends, we look for patterns, and we have developed some. All of the victims are white men. They range in age from 22 to 70 years. They're all believed to have been experiencing homelessness at the time of their murders, and they were killed in those overnight hours, possibly while they were lying down, maybe even sleeping, and they all happened over the past year. One suspect has been arrested for one of the murders, but police say that it was the only one of the five.
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Speaker 3: Murders that involved a stabbing. All of the others were really excruciating, facial stabbing.
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Speaker 4: Blunt force trauma so this might not they got a guy but it might not be their guy continue on the run here now fbi agents say they stopped a massive isis inspired terror attack on the mall of america and get this they say it was planned by a teenager they say They had been monitoring this teen for the past two years after he began exchanging messages with an FBI informant.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 2: 18-year-old Sheikh Dun Abdali Mohammed was arrested after an undercover agent posing as a member of the Islamic State sold him an assault rifle and 200 rounds of ammunition. According to the agents, Mohammed said he planned to attack non-Muslims at the Minneapolis mall on October 24th, hoping to kill between 30 and 60 people.
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Speaker 3: He had specific plans. And when the.
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Speaker 2: Informant was asked if he was serious, Muhammad said, yes, I am 100% sure. He's an American born US citizen of Somali descent, but to think he was starting to become radicalized as early as 16, the police excuse me, the FBI was literally urging parents in this area where there is a big Somali community saying, pay attention. If police come knocking on your door and asking questions about your children, believe them. And that's what happened, I guess, a few years ago. And they refused to accept any responsibility. But he said this is a serious and growing problem in that community.
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Speaker 4: All right, we're going to continue on the run here on this Thursday now with a bombshell update about the condition of Krista Pike, the woman who survived last week's botched execution in Tennessee. Her attorney says she was believed brain dead, and there was even a plan to take her off the ventilator on Tuesday. But instead, that's the day she regained consciousness for the first time since last Wednesday's execution.
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Speaker 2: Yes, we also learned that she has limited use of her arms. Her attorney said she cannot move them. They're still swollen and blistered. He said her hands look like an inflated latex glove, basically, if you know what that looks like. Her attorneys were at an emergency court hearing yesterday. They successfully argued that materials related to her botched execution must be preserved by the state. The judge told the state, yeah, you got to even keep the trash in the trash can and preserve that.
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Speaker 3: Because all of this evidence must be maintained.
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Speaker 4: All right, continuing on the run here now, let's head back to Cornell. Students there staged a sit-in yesterday as the outrage and backlash continues over the school's handling of an alleged gang rape on campus. The students sat in and around the dining hall, many of them had signs at their tables or attached to their laptops, and this has become the theme now. Robes, we are Jane Doe.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that sit-in was planned for seven hours, and that was delivered because that is the amount of time of the alleged assault.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's how long it lasted.
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Speaker 2: The Cornell campus tumult has continued ever since the revelations about this alleged 2024 assault, where a student says she was gang-raped at the Chi Phi house on campus. Seven members of that fraternity were disciplined, but none of them actually faced any criminal charges that could change New York Attorney General has taken over the case, and is looking into possible criminal charges.
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Speaker 1: Why is the accuser getting death threats? Why is everybody mad at her?
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Speaker 4: Her attorneys come out and say she is getting death threats, even a swatting call to her.
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Speaker 1: House, I believe.
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Speaker 2: That happens all the time because some folks believe that these men have been falsely accused, or at least some of them have been, and there's been a.
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Speaker 3: Lot of pushback on that.
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Speaker 2: Death threats?
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Speaker 3: This is one of the many reasons why women do not come forward.
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Speaker 1: Death threat. Why would you ever? Death threats.
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Speaker 3: It's horrific.
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Speaker 4: Continuing on the run here now, let's head to Arizona where the University of Arizona has suspended six fraternities and paused activities. for nearly all the others after multiple allegations of misconduct. The dean of students said her office is investigating reports alleging physical assault, drugs and alcohol and hazing in nearly half of all chapters on campus. Robes, unfortunately, I'm sorry. This sounds exactly like the same fraternity behavior when I was on campus 30 years ago.
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Speaker 3: It's so interesting.
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Speaker 2: I was literally about to say the exact same thing. And I will also say that my youngest, who is at a campus in Colorado, will describe all the exact same things. She said that they actually haze pledges in the front yard in front of everyone and do horrific, awful things to them.
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Speaker 3: And police are starting to crack down.
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Speaker 4: I had my ass beat in college. I was online and was pledging a fraternity. And I was hazed.
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Speaker 1: I was hit. I was struck.
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Speaker 4: I was beaten in front of others. And you know what happened? We ended up getting pulled. Allegations came up and we all got pulled offline. And we're going to have to start the process over because of allegations. I said, hell no.
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Speaker 1: I ain't going to get my ass beat again.
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Speaker 3: I've never heard this story before.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I can remember the living room where it happened. Everybody was lined up. I was being required to repeat the Greek alphabet. And if you messed it up, my shirt was off. I was struck in the back.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Repeatedly.
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Speaker 3: That's what they do.
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Speaker 1: Robes, this is not.
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Speaker 2: They force you to drink pee and copious amounts of alcohol.
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Speaker 1: Same stuff.
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Speaker 2: My brother has scars on his stomach from crawling through broken beer bottles.
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Speaker 1: How do you stop this on campuses?
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Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's been going on.
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Speaker 2: For.
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Speaker 3: And everyone knows it's going on. So, yes, I love this.
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Speaker 2: While this investigation is ongoing, the dean suspended all Greek activities for fraternities.
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Speaker 3: So look at what this prevents.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the fraternities can't host, attend, or participate in any organizational activities.
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Speaker 3: I loved how that was what it was described as. They can't even attend other activities.
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Speaker 1: All this foolishness, and you know what you have all the time? Young girls.
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Speaker 4: desperate to get into those houses on a Friday and a Saturday night.
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Speaker 1: Desperate to get to that party. Who got invited to the party? They always have the best bands. All that stuff.
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Speaker 3: We would go out. This is terrible.
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Speaker 2: We would go out during the week to find out which fraternity had the best band for the game that weekend and then try to get a date to the game so we could go to.
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Speaker 3: The fraternity party. Yes, I remember the whole setup.
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Speaker 2: It's It's fraught with problems because drinking and drugs and just, ugh, all of.
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Speaker 3: That that goes on in those houses.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 4: Well, continuing on the run here now. It is now officially a hurricane. We knew this was coming. Help me with the name.
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Speaker 1: Isaias? Is that right? Hurricane?
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Speaker 3: It's Isaias.
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Speaker 1: Isaias.
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Speaker 3: I said it completely wrong yesterday.
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Speaker 1: But it's Isaias.
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Speaker 3: Isaias.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 4: It's spelled I-S-A-I-A-S. I-A-S is how it's spelled. But yes, they were getting developed into a Category 1 storm overnight. That's where it's sitting right now. It's bearing down on the Gulf Coast, but now this thing is expected to get stronger. The storm watches that were in place have pretty much been all upgraded to warnings along the Gulf Coast today.
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Speaker 2: All right, and the storm, yes, is expected to upgrade to a Category 2 by tonight before it makes landfall sometime Friday or early Saturday. This is the first Atlantic hurricane of the season, and it is the latest first hurricane that we've ever.
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Speaker 3: Had in 121 years. Yeah, this is October. We've got.
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Speaker 3: Just weeks left of hurricane season.
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Speaker 4: I didn't realize we were wondering why so many hurricanes in the Pacific. They said there is an El Nino conditions that caused this this year. There's a reason we haven't seen them in the Atlantic and why we were over on the Pacific side recently. And we got hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, it felt like.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could not go out on the water on the Pacific Coast all last week. Florida and Alabama in particular have issued warnings for dozens of counties. And look, my brother told me yesterday, going to the Georgia-Alabama game in Tuscaloosa.
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Speaker 3: Well, I have to ask him now if he's changing his plans.
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Speaker 1: He's got to change his plans.
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Speaker 3: There's no way, right?
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Speaker 4: He's got to change his plans. He probably will. Even the president might not be going. He had planned to go to the Georgia-Alabama game. Bro, this is going to be a mess. I don't know what they're going to do, but what's being predicted... I don't know how that game is going.
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Speaker 1: To get played.
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Speaker 3: Ooh, they could change it. They could switch it over to Athens, tween the hedges.
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Speaker 4: But I hate for the weather to affect this game. I hate for it to be that kind of messy.
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Speaker 2: This is a big matchup, and there's a lot at stake, just emotionally speaking, historically speaking.
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Speaker 3: But you don't want to put anyone at risk.
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Speaker 1: One of the games of the year.
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Speaker 4: I want to see the best on solid, dry turf doing their thing. All right, well, stay with us on this. Thursday morning run. When we come back, guess who's coming home? The USS Abraham Lincoln coming home today. And also a story that personally pisses us off. Somebody cheated and caught a ride on a bike during a marathon.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everyone, to your, and we haven't said this yet, Friday Eve morning run.
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Speaker 1: I don't ever say it. What? I don't ever say it. That's your thing.
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Speaker 3: Okay, fine. I am now saying it for the first time. It's Friday Eve, y'all.
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Speaker 2: And next up on the run, finally, home service members aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln are are set to return home today. After that headline-making record deployment, the Lincoln will dock back in San Diego. Later today, the 7,500 servicemen and women had an extended deployment that included 286 straight days at sea without porting ever once.
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Speaker 3: That's a lot.
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Speaker 4: Rose, they've been out there almost a full year. It's over 300 days. Rose, this is incredible. The scenes... I can't wait to see these images. It's going to be awesome. This is going to be great. Now, the ship, of course, was plagued by difficult conditions on board. Family members reported their loved ones were having mental health difficulties. Now, the Pentagon initially was denying that, but later in a report... said at least eight attempted suicides that they know of. Now, Defense Secretary Pete Hex has visited the Lincoln yesterday. He went out, hopped on board before coming into San Diego today. Announced they are getting, though, the presidential unit citation. That's the highest honor for an entire unit they can receive for their activities in wartime. So that's at least something there. This is so, so wonderful that they're coming home. This is going to be a cool scene.
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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see that homecoming. And for the final leg of our run.
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Speaker 3: This was upsetting. In fact, my dad initially sent us this story. He's also a marathoner. Anyone who's run a marathon, this is going to piss you off.
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Speaker 1: If you run a 5K, this will piss you off.
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Speaker 3: I agree.
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Speaker 2: I agree. A Chinese fitness influencer had to publicly apologize after she was caught cheating during the Berlin Marathon.
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Speaker 3: 30-year-old, it's Wan.
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Speaker 2: Yuan Sun, who has more than half a million followers, She was disqualified from the race after images surfaced of her sitting on the back of a bike right around the 23-mile marker.
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Speaker 1: That's a difficult time. 23 miles is very hard.
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Speaker 2: That is when I actually, and I think pretty much every other marathoner, wants to die.
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Speaker 4: That's a really tough time. Your body is done. You have nothing left at that point.
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Speaker 1: We get it. That's fine.
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Speaker 4: So an Instagram account called the Official Marathon Time Integrity Unit, they say they had a photo of her sent to them. And so they then posted it. And yes, you see her clear as day sitting on the bike. Sitting on the back. Somebody's giving her a ride. I don't know who that is. If she just said, hey, who knows? I don't think she had it staged.
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Speaker 1: There's no allegation of that.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I've run the Berlin Marathon, and there's not like a lot of helpful Germans waiting around for you to see if you need anything. Like you see in New York, they've got orange slices and bananas. That wasn't happening in Germany, so I don't know if someone just saw her struggling and said.
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Speaker 3: Hop on the bike. I'll take you a couple miles. Who knows?
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Speaker 1: Okay, so.
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Speaker 4: Obviously, you can't do this. Well, it's not just the photo robes. Split times are everything. And yes, there is a general rule that you are supposed to, your slowest mile is supposed to be your first, your fastest is supposed to be your last. That sounds crazy, but you're supposed to build up. You're not supposed to go out so fast. But robes, her splits at the end, a particular split she had between mile.
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Speaker 1: 22 and 25, I think it was.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 4: Was six minutes faster than her previous split.
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Speaker 1: It's impossible. It is impossible.
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Speaker 2: At the end of a marathon, ain't no way you got that much extra gas in the tank.
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Speaker 1: That you can't, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was obvious she was on a bike and not on her feet.
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Speaker 2: So yes, Sun was dropped by her sponsor, the running shoe company Brooks. And look, she admits to deliberately concealing her actions. She shared her finish time.
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Speaker 3: That was the word. She posted it with her medal.
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Speaker 2: Saying she had a personal best, a PR, as we call it, with a 453.46.
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Speaker 3: She says she.
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Speaker 2: Feels deeply guilty about it, says she was feeling, quote, physically unwell on the course. Yeah, so is everybody at mile 23. But she admitted that is absolutely not an excuse for breaking the rules, and she has been publicly shamed.
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Speaker 3: There's no question.
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Speaker 4: I didn't know this was an option when you are, what did she say, feeling physically unwell on the course?
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Speaker 2: I puked from mile 22 to mile 26 the last New York City Marathon.
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Speaker 1: I got a ride once in an ambulance. at the end of a marathon.
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Speaker 3: You also didn't get a medal.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know it. They just could have dropped me off at the finish line.
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Speaker 2: All right. Well, that's going to be a tough hill for her to climb to get out of that mess. All right.
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Speaker 3: Quote of the day on this Friday Eve. Actually, it's so funny. This just falls right in line with our last story. Admit when you're wrong. Shut up when you're right.
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Speaker 1: Oh, God, yeah. Nothing to say. You know I love this. I just let people talk. No, I love this so much. You don't have to say anything.
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Speaker 3: Admit when you're wrong. Shut up when you're right. But I love this.
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Speaker 2: They said repair starts in any situation with three of the most uncomfortable words.
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Speaker 3: I was wrong.
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Speaker 2: Thinking about it, I'm sorry is really hard to say, but I think even harder to say is Three words. They're like, don't offer a but, don't offer an excuse. If you just say, I was wrong, the healing that can begin is phenomenal.
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Speaker 1: It's just so hard.
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Speaker 4: Do the thing you're saying here in the opposite. They shut up when they're wrong. but then they keep talking when they're right.
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Speaker 1: Yes. Isn't that what people usually do?
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Speaker 3: Almost always. It's the opposite.
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Speaker 2: Admit when you're right, like brag when you're right, tell everybody that you're right, and shut.
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Speaker 3: Up when you're wrong. No, that's the opposite.
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Speaker 2: Admit when you're wrong, shut up when you're right. And with that, everyone, we hope you have a wonderful Thursday.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for running with us.
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Speaker 1: And I'm TJ. Did you say your name? Did you say Amy?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Did I? I'm Amy Robach, in case anyone needed to be reminded.
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Speaker 1: Okay. And I'm TJ. Talk to you all soon.
Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ.
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Speaker 2: An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey there, everybody, and welcome to Morning Run.
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Speaker 3: It's Thursday, October 8th. I'm Amy Robach.
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Speaker 1: And I'm TJ Holmes. How'd you sleep last night, honey?
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Speaker 2: I think I slept pretty well. I actually didn't check my aura ring.
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Speaker 4: Why don't you let your dog sleep with you like so many Americans do?
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Speaker 3: I am not a fan of... Honestly, I love my children.
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Speaker 2: I loved them when they were babies, but I really don't want anyone sleeping in my bed. So I didn't, I was an anti-child, anti-animal bed household.
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Speaker 1: Well, there is a thing.
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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't people want the dog to sleep in the bed? What are their reasons for not?
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Speaker 2: My reasons are plentiful. I don't want another like warm body. Someone's waking me up, moving around.
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Speaker 1: I got a new study on this is why I'm bringing it up right now.
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Speaker 2: And then the other thing is just, I don't know, like, is he clean enough did he you know just the shower like i just he only gets a bath once every couple weeks.
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Speaker 4: Okay well some people now are saying that uh you know some people don't want it because it's going to disturb them while they're sleeping dogs in the bed It's not the case. That's what the new study is telling us from the University of Toronto. They put trackers like Fitbits on the dogs and on the people. Turns out it's the people disturbing the dog sleep.
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Speaker 3: That's hilarious.
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Speaker 4: And not the other way around. They're able to actually track this. And people who are asleep did not have their sleep impacted by the dog.
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Speaker 1: They can see by the tracking.
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Speaker 4: However, they do notice that the movement is about the same time. And it's usually the human first wakes up the dog. The human goes back to sleep and the dog is up for a little bit. We are disturbing the dog's sleep.
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Speaker 3: That's hilarious. So, yes, maybe it's just, yeah, I'm trying to be kind.
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Speaker 1: To the dog.
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Speaker 4: There it is.
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Speaker 3: No, I'm actually just trying to protect my peace. That's just me being honest.
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Speaker 4: I laughed because I saw that and just the other day I had to swat the dog out of the bedroom because it was sleeping on my side for some reason.
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Speaker 3: He wants to be in the bedroom, but he is not.
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Speaker 1: He's not allowed to be.
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Speaker 3: He's got his own bed.
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Speaker 1: It's expensive, too.
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Speaker 4: Well, good morning to you all as we get started. Maybe your dogs are hopping out of bed with you this morning, wherever you may be. Hope you are getting a good start to your day. And certainly the folks down at the Gulf Coast, we are thinking about you. It's going to be a rough couple of days down there. We'll get into that. But we're making stops all over the place today, including in Minneapolis. Going to make a stop in Berlin as well. Also in Nashville, we'll make a stop at the University of Arizona, the cafeteria at Cornell, and we will make a stop first at the Texas Death Chamber Robes, after what we saw last week, there was increased intention on what was going to happen last night in Texas.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: And it did take a little while, but Texas eventually showed them how it's done by successfully, yes, this time, executing an inmate last night. And we should point out they used the exact same method. that Tennessee used in its botched execution of Krista Pike. Jamal Howard was pronounced dead at 8.03 p.m. Central Time last night after he was given a single dose of pentobarbital.
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Speaker 4: So it can work, is what you're telling me. So yes, Texas is a one-dose lethal injection state like Tennessee. Howard had been on death row for the 2,000 killing of a convenience store clerk by the name of Vicki Swartout. The execution appeared to go forward without a hitch, but as you said, Robes, without a hitch, I guess, in the room, but there were at least some holdups and a slight delay. And Robes, we were watching this late last night thinking, oh my goodness, are we going to have a... Because we didn't know what was going on, we just knew there was a delay.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 2: And we go to bed early, and now you add another time zone to the mix, and.
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Speaker 3: It was past our bedtime.
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Speaker 2: But yes, Howard did have several appeals that were pending before the Supreme Court. Those appeals were not resolved before the planned 6 p.m. execution time. So it was delayed actually quite a bit.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he was delayed in getting an answer and all that for at least an hour, but it ends up being delayed.
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Speaker 2: Two hours, right?
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Speaker 4: Two hours before he was declared dead from that 6 o'clock execution time.
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Speaker 3: That has to be fairly excruciating, just the waiting.
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Speaker 2: The waiting is the hardest part, but when you're waiting for a thumbs up or a thumbs down for the Supreme Court, that's got to be pretty tough. But his final words, and we do appreciate it when there is contrition. This is rare.
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Speaker 3: When there is accountability.
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Speaker 2: He said, I apologize to the Swartout family, and I wish you had closure and peace. I wish that you accept my apology, and I wish for your forgiveness. I'm sorry for what happened. I thank y'all. Hey, enjoy life and peace to y'all. Warden, that's it. I'm ready.
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Speaker 4: That's chilling stuff, baby. That's just the death penalty, the executions. It's hard to ever get comfortable, just the ceremony of death. Those are the last words from him.
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Speaker 1: Again, this is rare.
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Speaker 4: We cover all of these the past few years. It's rare that they apologize at the end.
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Speaker 2: And I just look, I've never had anyone in my family who I love die by a violent crime. But I can only imagine that that has to do something and mean something to get that apology.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 4: Well, we will continue here on this Thursday morning run. Going to head to Michigan where police there think they might have a serial killer on their hands. There have been at least five murders that police say robes have similarities. All of this in the Lansing area.
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Speaker 3: Yes, my birthplace.
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Speaker 2: As the police chief put it, we look for trends, we look for patterns, and we have developed some. All of the victims are white men. They range in age from 22 to 70 years. They're all believed to have been experiencing homelessness at the time of their murders, and they were killed in those overnight hours, possibly while they were lying down, maybe even sleeping, and they all happened over the past year. One suspect has been arrested for one of the murders, but police say that it was the only one of the five.
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Speaker 3: Murders that involved a stabbing. All of the others were really excruciating, facial stabbing.
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Speaker 4: Blunt force trauma so this might not they got a guy but it might not be their guy continue on the run here now fbi agents say they stopped a massive isis inspired terror attack on the mall of america and get this they say it was planned by a teenager they say They had been monitoring this teen for the past two years after he began exchanging messages with an FBI informant.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 2: 18-year-old Sheikh Dun Abdali Mohammed was arrested after an undercover agent posing as a member of the Islamic State sold him an assault rifle and 200 rounds of ammunition. According to the agents, Mohammed said he planned to attack non-Muslims at the Minneapolis mall on October 24th, hoping to kill between 30 and 60 people.
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Speaker 3: He had specific plans. And when the.
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Speaker 2: Informant was asked if he was serious, Muhammad said, yes, I am 100% sure. He's an American born US citizen of Somali descent, but to think he was starting to become radicalized as early as 16, the police excuse me, the FBI was literally urging parents in this area where there is a big Somali community saying, pay attention. If police come knocking on your door and asking questions about your children, believe them. And that's what happened, I guess, a few years ago. And they refused to accept any responsibility. But he said this is a serious and growing problem in that community.
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Speaker 4: All right, we're going to continue on the run here on this Thursday now with a bombshell update about the condition of Krista Pike, the woman who survived last week's botched execution in Tennessee. Her attorney says she was believed brain dead, and there was even a plan to take her off the ventilator on Tuesday. But instead, that's the day she regained consciousness for the first time since last Wednesday's execution.
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Speaker 2: Yes, we also learned that she has limited use of her arms. Her attorney said she cannot move them. They're still swollen and blistered. He said her hands look like an inflated latex glove, basically, if you know what that looks like. Her attorneys were at an emergency court hearing yesterday. They successfully argued that materials related to her botched execution must be preserved by the state. The judge told the state, yeah, you got to even keep the trash in the trash can and preserve that.
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Speaker 3: Because all of this evidence must be maintained.
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Speaker 4: All right, continuing on the run here now, let's head back to Cornell. Students there staged a sit-in yesterday as the outrage and backlash continues over the school's handling of an alleged gang rape on campus. The students sat in and around the dining hall, many of them had signs at their tables or attached to their laptops, and this has become the theme now. Robes, we are Jane Doe.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that sit-in was planned for seven hours, and that was delivered because that is the amount of time of the alleged assault.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's how long it lasted.
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Speaker 2: The Cornell campus tumult has continued ever since the revelations about this alleged 2024 assault, where a student says she was gang-raped at the Chi Phi house on campus. Seven members of that fraternity were disciplined, but none of them actually faced any criminal charges that could change New York Attorney General has taken over the case, and is looking into possible criminal charges.
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Speaker 1: Why is the accuser getting death threats? Why is everybody mad at her?
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Speaker 4: Her attorneys come out and say she is getting death threats, even a swatting call to her.
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Speaker 1: House, I believe.
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Speaker 2: That happens all the time because some folks believe that these men have been falsely accused, or at least some of them have been, and there's been a.
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Speaker 3: Lot of pushback on that.
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Speaker 2: Death threats?
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Speaker 3: This is one of the many reasons why women do not come forward.
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Speaker 1: Death threat. Why would you ever? Death threats.
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Speaker 3: It's horrific.
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Speaker 4: Continuing on the run here now, let's head to Arizona where the University of Arizona has suspended six fraternities and paused activities. for nearly all the others after multiple allegations of misconduct. The dean of students said her office is investigating reports alleging physical assault, drugs and alcohol and hazing in nearly half of all chapters on campus. Robes, unfortunately, I'm sorry. This sounds exactly like the same fraternity behavior when I was on campus 30 years ago.
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Speaker 3: It's so interesting.
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Speaker 2: I was literally about to say the exact same thing. And I will also say that my youngest, who is at a campus in Colorado, will describe all the exact same things. She said that they actually haze pledges in the front yard in front of everyone and do horrific, awful things to them.
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Speaker 3: And police are starting to crack down.
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Speaker 4: I had my ass beat in college. I was online and was pledging a fraternity. And I was hazed.
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Speaker 1: I was hit. I was struck.
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Speaker 4: I was beaten in front of others. And you know what happened? We ended up getting pulled. Allegations came up and we all got pulled offline. And we're going to have to start the process over because of allegations. I said, hell no.
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Speaker 1: I ain't going to get my ass beat again.
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Speaker 3: I've never heard this story before.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I can remember the living room where it happened. Everybody was lined up. I was being required to repeat the Greek alphabet. And if you messed it up, my shirt was off. I was struck in the back.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Repeatedly.
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Speaker 3: That's what they do.
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Speaker 1: Robes, this is not.
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Speaker 2: They force you to drink pee and copious amounts of alcohol.
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Speaker 1: Same stuff.
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Speaker 2: My brother has scars on his stomach from crawling through broken beer bottles.
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Speaker 1: How do you stop this on campuses?
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Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's been going on.
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Speaker 2: For.
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Speaker 3: And everyone knows it's going on. So, yes, I love this.
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Speaker 2: While this investigation is ongoing, the dean suspended all Greek activities for fraternities.
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Speaker 3: So look at what this prevents.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the fraternities can't host, attend, or participate in any organizational activities.
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Speaker 3: I loved how that was what it was described as. They can't even attend other activities.
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Speaker 1: All this foolishness, and you know what you have all the time? Young girls.
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Speaker 4: desperate to get into those houses on a Friday and a Saturday night.
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Speaker 1: Desperate to get to that party. Who got invited to the party? They always have the best bands. All that stuff.
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Speaker 3: We would go out. This is terrible.
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Speaker 2: We would go out during the week to find out which fraternity had the best band for the game that weekend and then try to get a date to the game so we could go to.
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Speaker 3: The fraternity party. Yes, I remember the whole setup.
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Speaker 2: It's It's fraught with problems because drinking and drugs and just, ugh, all of.
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Speaker 3: That that goes on in those houses.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 4: Well, continuing on the run here now. It is now officially a hurricane. We knew this was coming. Help me with the name.
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Speaker 1: Isaias? Is that right? Hurricane?
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Speaker 3: It's Isaias.
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Speaker 1: Isaias.
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Speaker 3: I said it completely wrong yesterday.
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Speaker 1: But it's Isaias.
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Speaker 3: Isaias.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 4: It's spelled I-S-A-I-A-S. I-A-S is how it's spelled. But yes, they were getting developed into a Category 1 storm overnight. That's where it's sitting right now. It's bearing down on the Gulf Coast, but now this thing is expected to get stronger. The storm watches that were in place have pretty much been all upgraded to warnings along the Gulf Coast today.
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Speaker 2: All right, and the storm, yes, is expected to upgrade to a Category 2 by tonight before it makes landfall sometime Friday or early Saturday. This is the first Atlantic hurricane of the season, and it is the latest first hurricane that we've ever.
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Speaker 3: Had in 121 years. Yeah, this is October. We've got.
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Speaker 3: Just weeks left of hurricane season.
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Speaker 4: I didn't realize we were wondering why so many hurricanes in the Pacific. They said there is an El Nino conditions that caused this this year. There's a reason we haven't seen them in the Atlantic and why we were over on the Pacific side recently. And we got hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, it felt like.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could not go out on the water on the Pacific Coast all last week. Florida and Alabama in particular have issued warnings for dozens of counties. And look, my brother told me yesterday, going to the Georgia-Alabama game in Tuscaloosa.
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Speaker 3: Well, I have to ask him now if he's changing his plans.
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Speaker 1: He's got to change his plans.
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Speaker 3: There's no way, right?
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Speaker 4: He's got to change his plans. He probably will. Even the president might not be going. He had planned to go to the Georgia-Alabama game. Bro, this is going to be a mess. I don't know what they're going to do, but what's being predicted... I don't know how that game is going.
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Speaker 1: To get played.
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Speaker 3: Ooh, they could change it. They could switch it over to Athens, tween the hedges.
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Speaker 4: But I hate for the weather to affect this game. I hate for it to be that kind of messy.
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Speaker 2: This is a big matchup, and there's a lot at stake, just emotionally speaking, historically speaking.
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Speaker 3: But you don't want to put anyone at risk.
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Speaker 1: One of the games of the year.
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Speaker 4: I want to see the best on solid, dry turf doing their thing. All right, well, stay with us on this. Thursday morning run. When we come back, guess who's coming home? The USS Abraham Lincoln coming home today. And also a story that personally pisses us off. Somebody cheated and caught a ride on a bike during a marathon.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everyone, to your, and we haven't said this yet, Friday Eve morning run.
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Speaker 1: I don't ever say it. What? I don't ever say it. That's your thing.
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Speaker 3: Okay, fine. I am now saying it for the first time. It's Friday Eve, y'all.
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Speaker 2: And next up on the run, finally, home service members aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln are are set to return home today. After that headline-making record deployment, the Lincoln will dock back in San Diego. Later today, the 7,500 servicemen and women had an extended deployment that included 286 straight days at sea without porting ever once.
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Speaker 3: That's a lot.
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Speaker 4: Rose, they've been out there almost a full year. It's over 300 days. Rose, this is incredible. The scenes... I can't wait to see these images. It's going to be awesome. This is going to be great. Now, the ship, of course, was plagued by difficult conditions on board. Family members reported their loved ones were having mental health difficulties. Now, the Pentagon initially was denying that, but later in a report... said at least eight attempted suicides that they know of. Now, Defense Secretary Pete Hex has visited the Lincoln yesterday. He went out, hopped on board before coming into San Diego today. Announced they are getting, though, the presidential unit citation. That's the highest honor for an entire unit they can receive for their activities in wartime. So that's at least something there. This is so, so wonderful that they're coming home. This is going to be a cool scene.
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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see that homecoming. And for the final leg of our run.
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Speaker 3: This was upsetting. In fact, my dad initially sent us this story. He's also a marathoner. Anyone who's run a marathon, this is going to piss you off.
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Speaker 1: If you run a 5K, this will piss you off.
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Speaker 3: I agree.
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Speaker 2: I agree. A Chinese fitness influencer had to publicly apologize after she was caught cheating during the Berlin Marathon.
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Speaker 3: 30-year-old, it's Wan.
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Speaker 2: Yuan Sun, who has more than half a million followers, She was disqualified from the race after images surfaced of her sitting on the back of a bike right around the 23-mile marker.
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Speaker 1: That's a difficult time. 23 miles is very hard.
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Speaker 2: That is when I actually, and I think pretty much every other marathoner, wants to die.
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Speaker 4: That's a really tough time. Your body is done. You have nothing left at that point.
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Speaker 1: We get it. That's fine.
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Speaker 4: So an Instagram account called the Official Marathon Time Integrity Unit, they say they had a photo of her sent to them. And so they then posted it. And yes, you see her clear as day sitting on the bike. Sitting on the back. Somebody's giving her a ride. I don't know who that is. If she just said, hey, who knows? I don't think she had it staged.
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Speaker 1: There's no allegation of that.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I've run the Berlin Marathon, and there's not like a lot of helpful Germans waiting around for you to see if you need anything. Like you see in New York, they've got orange slices and bananas. That wasn't happening in Germany, so I don't know if someone just saw her struggling and said.
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Speaker 3: Hop on the bike. I'll take you a couple miles. Who knows?
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Speaker 1: Okay, so.
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Speaker 4: Obviously, you can't do this. Well, it's not just the photo robes. Split times are everything. And yes, there is a general rule that you are supposed to, your slowest mile is supposed to be your first, your fastest is supposed to be your last. That sounds crazy, but you're supposed to build up. You're not supposed to go out so fast. But robes, her splits at the end, a particular split she had between mile.
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Speaker 1: 22 and 25, I think it was.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 4: Was six minutes faster than her previous split.
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Speaker 1: It's impossible. It is impossible.
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Speaker 2: At the end of a marathon, ain't no way you got that much extra gas in the tank.
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Speaker 1: That you can't, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was obvious she was on a bike and not on her feet.
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Speaker 2: So yes, Sun was dropped by her sponsor, the running shoe company Brooks. And look, she admits to deliberately concealing her actions. She shared her finish time.
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Speaker 3: That was the word. She posted it with her medal.
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Speaker 2: Saying she had a personal best, a PR, as we call it, with a 453.46.
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Speaker 3: She says she.
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Speaker 2: Feels deeply guilty about it, says she was feeling, quote, physically unwell on the course. Yeah, so is everybody at mile 23. But she admitted that is absolutely not an excuse for breaking the rules, and she has been publicly shamed.
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Speaker 3: There's no question.
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Speaker 4: I didn't know this was an option when you are, what did she say, feeling physically unwell on the course?
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Speaker 2: I puked from mile 22 to mile 26 the last New York City Marathon.
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Speaker 1: I got a ride once in an ambulance. at the end of a marathon.
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Speaker 3: You also didn't get a medal.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know it. They just could have dropped me off at the finish line.
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Speaker 2: All right. Well, that's going to be a tough hill for her to climb to get out of that mess. All right.
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Speaker 3: Quote of the day on this Friday Eve. Actually, it's so funny. This just falls right in line with our last story. Admit when you're wrong. Shut up when you're right.
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Speaker 1: Oh, God, yeah. Nothing to say. You know I love this. I just let people talk. No, I love this so much. You don't have to say anything.
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Speaker 3: Admit when you're wrong. Shut up when you're right. But I love this.
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Speaker 2: They said repair starts in any situation with three of the most uncomfortable words.
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Speaker 3: I was wrong.
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Speaker 2: Thinking about it, I'm sorry is really hard to say, but I think even harder to say is Three words. They're like, don't offer a but, don't offer an excuse. If you just say, I was wrong, the healing that can begin is phenomenal.
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Speaker 1: It's just so hard.
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Speaker 4: Do the thing you're saying here in the opposite. They shut up when they're wrong. but then they keep talking when they're right.
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Speaker 1: Yes. Isn't that what people usually do?
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Speaker 3: Almost always. It's the opposite.
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Speaker 2: Admit when you're right, like brag when you're right, tell everybody that you're right, and shut.
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Speaker 3: Up when you're wrong. No, that's the opposite.
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Speaker 2: Admit when you're wrong, shut up when you're right. And with that, everyone, we hope you have a wonderful Thursday.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for running with us.
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Speaker 1: And I'm TJ. Did you say your name? Did you say Amy?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Did I? I'm Amy Robach, in case anyone needed to be reminded.
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Speaker 1: Okay. And I'm TJ. Talk to you all soon.