Dec. 18, 2025
The Teenaged Serial Killer Responsible For the “Tuesday Murders” Dies Tonight, 4 Decades After His Killing Spree
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RSS Feed 58-year-old Frank Athen Walls is being put to death as this episode is being published, 40 years after his first murder when he was just 17 years old. Walls eventually admitted to killing 5 people all before he turned 20, terrorizing the panhandle of Florida from 1985 to 1987.
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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, December eighteenth, and as we're putting this episode out, a man in Florida is being escorted to a death chamber. He is going to be placed on a gurney, he is going to be strapped in needles are going to be placed in his arms, and the state of Florida is going to execute what is now the nineteenth inmate of the year, far far surpassing its previous record. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ and Romes. I mentioned that, and this is scheduled to be the last execution of the year, but strangely enough, we'll get into why it might not be. And just an execution night is always a solemn.
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Speaker 2: Night, it is, and the details surrounding what this man was convicted of and what he's admitted to are especially horrific. Obviously, anyone on death row has admitted the worst of the worst crimes, but this one actually blew my mind when I started reading the details. I didn't even know. Honestly, I haven't even ever heard of a teenage serial killer, but that's what this man was.
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Speaker 1: And strangely enough, there was so much distance between tonight his execution night and the night of the first murder he ever committed. And we are talking about forty years ago. This has been forty years almost that he has been on death row to get to this point. Is this justice anymore? Everybody involved in the case is dead. Yeah, family members, a lot of stuff.
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Speaker 2: As we were researching this, it said so many of the victim's family members who were seeking justice, who were there at the trial, who were pushing for this to come to fruition, have all passed away. So one of the family members who will talk about who is speaking out, was two at the time of the murders. That's how much time has passed. Four decades has passed since he began his murder spring.
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Speaker 1: And it was her grandmother, the two year all you're talking about. So we will get into that, but we'll tell you where we are tonight, folks. Again, as we're putting this episode out, six o'clock Eastern time is when the lethal injection execution is to take place for Frank Athan Walls, a fifty eight year old man who, as you said, Robes, was involved in what at the time were called the Tuesday murders, but he committed what helped me with my account, five murders, five essentially between the ages of seventeen and nineteen, all before the age of twenty.
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Speaker 2: I've never heard of that before. And this all took place in the Panhandle of Florida between yes nineteen eighty five and nineteen eighty seven, And the man who was the sheriff at the time said those two years in that county, in Okahoosa County, it was sheer terror. People were afraid because he was choosing people at random. These weren't people who had done anything to him, who he had any relationship to or with. And it's just mind blowing to think someone that young could be that vicious and that evil and that cruel. That is actually beyond shocking to me.
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Speaker 1: Well, it says again Frank Athan Walls. He is being executed tonight for the conviction in a double murder in nineteen eighty seven. However, after he was caught and convicted of that, he ends up making a deal in which he is admitting to three other murders of women. Those murders, all of them between the years of eighty five and eighty seven, again all before he was the age of twenty. This was just a bizarre detail, and they called him the Tuesday murders.
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Speaker 2: At the time, Yeah, I had never heard of this, but again, it maybe makes a lot of sense because it's not been in the headlines recently because it's been so long. I actually was looking at some stories that were written ten years ago and they were all kind of a gas that he had been on death row for thirty years and they were trying to get his execution date set. That was ten years ago. So, yes, Tuesday murders. All of the murders happened on a Tuesday or overnight Tuesday, so the victims might have been found on Wednesday, but it seemed as though he was killing people on Tuesdays Tuesday night.
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Speaker 1: See anything or what was the Was this just a coincidence or there was some theory behind why it lined up that way?
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Speaker 2: Who knows. But obviously, if you've been slightly obsessed with serial killers and they usually have patterns, they usually leave some sort of earmark. They'll either take some sort of a trophy, or they'll do something to kind of almost leave their signature or their stamp on a murder to kind of almost take credit for it, so police know, Yeah, guys, it's me again, and so it would read with what you hear about other serial killers doing. There is some planning, there's some method to their madness. We might not be able to get in their brains. But it seems odd that it would just be random. It sounds like it was something he chose. It sounds like something he did deliberately. That was his mark. I'll do it on a Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: Well, in nineteen eighty seven, on a Tuesday, here a double murder. This is when he broke into the home of a couple that was sleeping. This was a twenty two year old and a twenty year old couple. The man, Edgar Alger, happened to be an airman's a US Service member. These folks pretty vicious here. The woman and Louise Peterson was shot two times. The man he had his throat slashed and was shot three times. Again. No rhyme or reason or why these folks, why this house, why this night.
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Speaker 2: It might have been a crime of opportunity, but they I was reading the details of this attack and look Edward Alger. It just it's heartbreaking when you hear about this. You put yourself in that place at that time, And they said he fought like hell. He fought like hell, and so as even when his throat was slashed, he was fighting back and pushing and punching, and that's when he went ahead and shot him. They said his mo the Tuesday killer, Frank Athan Wall, preferred to use a knife, and so he started out with a knife. But because things got heated and Edward Alger wasn't going down without a major fight, he ended up shooting him. But his method or his weapon of choice in these murders was a knife.
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Speaker 1: And to that point, the person he ends up admitting to killing prior to killing this couple, the scariest part you just mentioned the share was talking about how they were terrorized. The woman he admitted to killing. That killing had been two months prior and a block away from where he had killed the couple.
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Speaker 2: Yes, this was Audrey Geege. She was forty seven years old and she was stabbed to death at her home and she had children and actually grandchildren. And we will read you her granddaughter's statement because it's very powerful and speaks to where these family members who are still alive are in this journey that they have been on for four decades. But she and just think about the hole that leaves in a family. And she was just forty seven years old, so young, but again random. He had no connection to her. There was no reason why he needed to break into her home and stab her to death.
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Speaker 1: And the killing he admitted to from the previous year, nineteen eighty six, woman by the name of Cynthia Sue Condra, twenty four years old, another young lady stabbed a twenty one times.
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Speaker 2: Twenty one time.
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Speaker 1: This was vicious and I read somewhere he had no rhyme or reason. He explained kind of a way. He just has these fits of rage sometimes that overcome him. He in trying to explain some of his behavior, which it seems like robes. He didn't have answers either. But this is some This is some vicious stuff. In every single one of these, it's something horrific. And the first one he admitted to in nineteen eighty five, this is another one that just you're like Jesus.
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Speaker 2: She was lying out in the sun, sunbathing in her bikini. This was in March of nineteen eighty five. She was just nineteen years old, so he was seventeen at the time. She was nineteen. Just can you I think about this. Oh my goodness, my daughters loved doing this. Laying out in the sun, you're closing your eyes, maybe you have music playing. You are not thinking for one second you're in any danger in the middle of the day, sunbathing. But he admitted to raping her and slashing her throat, and that was the first murder. Although he was never convicted in that, he admitted to it as part of a plea deal to avoid a second death penalty conviction.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so an avoiding a trial. But yeah, idea, it's possible. I was asking you, but it was possible. He was facing a double death penalty in some of these, so that's why the deals were made.
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Speaker 2: Back.
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Speaker 1: I just that's tough roles when you talk about justice. A conviction, okay, is one thing, but the punishment hasn't been carried out. It's almost it sounds crazy, but if someone has been convicted of a crime and they get twenty years in prison, but they get to stay at home before they get to go to jail, that's what is like. The sentence hasn't really been carried out until the death penalty is carried out, and to wait forty years for essentially what he was is supposed to be his punishment, correct.
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Speaker 2: And so look, wherever you stand on the death penalty, this is wrong. This is wrong because if you are if you're going to have a sentence of death, then that sentence should be carried out. Yes, somebody has to have the opportunity to appeal it and all of that. So fine, I understand there has to some period of time where there's a fair appeals process in place. But forty years and look, we've said this and it has been noted and studied. The death penalty is not a deterrent for criminals. First of all, no one thinks they're going to get caught. But also in the system we're in, a lot of them might think, yeah, but I'm still going to have thirty years before I'm actually going to be put to death, so I'll be able to appeal it, I'll be able to overturn it. It doesn't feel as frightening because it's so delayed. We're not just talking a couple of years or even a couple decades. Forty This is not the first time we have seen forty years go by.
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Speaker 1: You were telling me there have been a couple more. I remember the thirty seven. But this is just nobody. Again, Like you said, no matter how you feel about it, through forty years is too long for any family to have to wait for justice to be carried out. We did mention a family member. Some are speaking again with so many I think I saw that a husband and I think two kids of one of the victims has actually passed away since so they weren't around to see this day. But the granddaughter, who was two years old at the time, probably no memory of grandma. But she was two years old at the time, and she is still fighting for her family. I applaud that I do too.
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine she probably, I mean, obviously, she grew up with this story. She grew up knowing this. This was I'm sure a huge hole in her family, and she felt that even though she doesn't remember her grandmother, I'm sure she sees pictures and has heard all the stories. So yeah, she's passionate about this, and so she told She told a local reporter, I am going to have a drink and toast to my grandma and close that chapter. She's probably pouring her drink right now as you listen to this.
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Speaker 1: I didn't get word of who was attending. I don't know if any family members of the victims would be in attendance, but it's always interesting to hear and oftentimes they don't want to be there, and oftentimes they we've seen plenty that don't want the executions to go forward. This is not that case.
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Speaker 2: No, no, this this is something that at least we're here, and honestly, like you said, so many of the people affected and impacted by his murder spree, by his violence are no longer here. So we just have heard from this granddaughter and I understand. Look, we have been very outspoken about certain death penalty cases and concerns about guilt or innocence. This one is not that case. And this one is just so evil and so unexplained and so concerning. If he wasn't caught, assuredly he would have continued, well wow, there was nothing stopping him.
00:12:52
Speaker 1: But what do they get? I mean, defendants, right, people arrested have a right to a speedy trial? Or is there no right to a speedy justice? Is there? Know? Why is anybody having to wait forty years for this to be carried out?
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Speaker 2: Yes, and he tried very like diligently through his attorneys to not die. He is fighting his death sentence. He has said he's mentally disabled. But then again I was reading he apparently told some jail worker that he was faking it, that he was faking being mentally insufficient so that he could get off of the death penalty, like deliberately failing as IQ test, et cetera, et cetera. So anyway, no one was buying it. It wasn't that he tried, and his attorneys tried to get a stay of execution up until the last few days, citing all sorts of things, but among them that he's mentally disabled and the fact that he was nineteen years old when he was convicted or seventeen when he committed his first murder, but he was convicted on the murder he committed, I believe when he was eighteen or nineteen, And that's where the rule is, yes, and maybe that is why they chose that case to prosecute him with, because he was of age to be considered or to be eligible for the death penalty.
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Speaker 1: Well, folks, as you have been listening to us in this episode, it is quite possible that Frank Athan Walls has been declared dead. Usually lethal injection doesn't take that long. We have seen some cases where it's taking up to maybe twenty minutes before an official declaration of death, but these often do go fairly quickly. Now, this would be the forty seventh execution in the United States this year. That's the most we've seen since two thousand and nine. This is the forty seventh of the year. It's possible we could still see a forty eighth before the new year. We'll explain. Stay here, Welcome back, folks to this episode of Amy and TJ. No matter what we talk about justice for a family, but it's just it's a solemn evening and experience and the thoughts of what takes place to have a an execution. There as steps that have to take place, but we are as a country, we are as a community officially sanctioning this person's death, and it's just you know, it's life is life, and I get it, and this is the punishment is there and it's legal. It just always makes you stop and reflect. Yes, by what we do is just always heavy.
00:15:32
Speaker 2: It's heavy. It's a solemn event, it's a solemn occasion, and it marks closure for a lot of families. It marks justice for a lot of folks. But it's controversial, obviously. It's something you can't take back, it's not something you can undo. And it is clearly an eye for an eye, which a lot of folks just simply disagree with on a moral level that that's not how we should operate. We should, yes, make sure someone this evil Frank Athan Walls clearly evil. I don't think that's even up for discussion truly at this point. To be a teenaged serial killer, to have murdered five people before the age of twenty for no apparent reason other than your own personal rage within you and lack of complete self control. But he never needs to see the light of day. He never needs to ever be out in the public obviously. But his life ends today, and for some of his surviving family members of the victims of his are are happy to see this day com finally eventually.
00:16:43
Speaker 1: If that gives them peace today, then God bless them. That's just he wiped out and changed, he altered generations of family he did. That's something to think of, how he how he went about this. And these are young folks that he killed.
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Speaker 2: Some of the women were so yeah, and so yes, every really everyone other than Audrey Gigee, who was forty seven. Everyone else was in their twenties, were they.
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Speaker 1: Not twenty two, twenty four? And the first one was nineteen. So again, folks, we say the country has been a lot of executions this year, forty seven, that's the most in two thousand and nine robes. There's still a possibility up until at least Christmas Eve that we could see a forty eighth. We've been talking about, folks, what we're seeing in Georgia, where there was an execution scheduled for Tuesday, but the state Parole Board halted that while he tried to get some issues worked out and Rolls, I'm not sure if they're trying to get this worked out because the death warrant, the clock is ticking.
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Speaker 2: It's unclear. So the death warrant goes, as you said, through Christmas Eve. The problem is, every person on death row is given and I guess it's their legal right to have a clemency hearing right before their scheduled execution, and so he had a scheduled clemency hearing this week. The problem was two of the members on this Board of Pardons and Parrol that it's a five member board. He would have to have three people vote in favor of clemency for him to get a stay of execution. Will two of the five have conflicts of interest because they were involved in some way, form or fashion in his case at the time, So one recused herself, the other said, okay, fine, I'll step aside. And now his attorneys were arguing he deserves to be able, his case should be able to be heard by five. The problem is they're not taking these people off the board. You can't add someone to the board. So they're kind of at an impasse right now. What did they do? What's legally correct, what's morally correct? Who knows how they're going to figure it out, but they don't have much time. It's not just that it's Christmas Eve. It's the holidays and.
00:18:53
Speaker 1: Everybody's out of town. Everybody wants to do something else. Certain they don't want to be dealing with this. And I can't imagine if they do a Christmas Eve execution. That's not happening.
00:19:01
Speaker 2: That doesn't seem right possible.
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Speaker 1: So it would have to be much sooner now. If the death warn't expires, they can get another one next year. But it doesn't appear they can get this worked out in time. So maybe we'll stop at forty seven for the year and won't get to forty eight. But my goodness, Florida nineteen executions this year, previous record with eight. Desantas ain't messing around that now.
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Speaker 2: No, he isn't in Florida. I guess Georgia might have to take a page out of his his playbook if they're trying to at least get their ducks in a row. But DeSantis, he was. He was dotting all those eyes and crossing all those t's, and he has not backed down. I wouldn't. He's one that if you're on death row, you're not getting a stay of execution in the state of Florida from DeSantis. He's made that very clear.
00:19:46
Speaker 1: Don't bother to type that letter.
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Speaker 2: Don't even the phone could be off the hook, it's not going to ring at the last second. I think we feel very confident in that Florida no need.
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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, folks, Well, we always appreciate you, and it's been a hell of a year with these executions, but we always appreciate you spending some time and having these discussions with us. We have actually learned a lot this year, I would say rogues. So, folks, we will talk to you soon on behalf of my dear Amy Robot. I'm TJ. Hawks.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, December eighteenth, and as we're putting this episode out, a man in Florida is being escorted to a death chamber. He is going to be placed on a gurney, he is going to be strapped in needles are going to be placed in his arms, and the state of Florida is going to execute what is now the nineteenth inmate of the year, far far surpassing its previous record. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ and Romes. I mentioned that, and this is scheduled to be the last execution of the year, but strangely enough, we'll get into why it might not be. And just an execution night is always a solemn.
00:00:46
Speaker 2: Night, it is, and the details surrounding what this man was convicted of and what he's admitted to are especially horrific. Obviously, anyone on death row has admitted the worst of the worst crimes, but this one actually blew my mind when I started reading the details. I didn't even know. Honestly, I haven't even ever heard of a teenage serial killer, but that's what this man was.
00:01:14
Speaker 1: And strangely enough, there was so much distance between tonight his execution night and the night of the first murder he ever committed. And we are talking about forty years ago. This has been forty years almost that he has been on death row to get to this point. Is this justice anymore? Everybody involved in the case is dead. Yeah, family members, a lot of stuff.
00:01:42
Speaker 2: As we were researching this, it said so many of the victim's family members who were seeking justice, who were there at the trial, who were pushing for this to come to fruition, have all passed away. So one of the family members who will talk about who is speaking out, was two at the time of the murders. That's how much time has passed. Four decades has passed since he began his murder spring.
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Speaker 1: And it was her grandmother, the two year all you're talking about. So we will get into that, but we'll tell you where we are tonight, folks. Again, as we're putting this episode out, six o'clock Eastern time is when the lethal injection execution is to take place for Frank Athan Walls, a fifty eight year old man who, as you said, Robes, was involved in what at the time were called the Tuesday murders, but he committed what helped me with my account, five murders, five essentially between the ages of seventeen and nineteen, all before the age of twenty.
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Speaker 2: I've never heard of that before. And this all took place in the Panhandle of Florida between yes nineteen eighty five and nineteen eighty seven, And the man who was the sheriff at the time said those two years in that county, in Okahoosa County, it was sheer terror. People were afraid because he was choosing people at random. These weren't people who had done anything to him, who he had any relationship to or with. And it's just mind blowing to think someone that young could be that vicious and that evil and that cruel. That is actually beyond shocking to me.
00:03:28
Speaker 1: Well, it says again Frank Athan Walls. He is being executed tonight for the conviction in a double murder in nineteen eighty seven. However, after he was caught and convicted of that, he ends up making a deal in which he is admitting to three other murders of women. Those murders, all of them between the years of eighty five and eighty seven, again all before he was the age of twenty. This was just a bizarre detail, and they called him the Tuesday murders.
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Speaker 2: At the time, Yeah, I had never heard of this, but again, it maybe makes a lot of sense because it's not been in the headlines recently because it's been so long. I actually was looking at some stories that were written ten years ago and they were all kind of a gas that he had been on death row for thirty years and they were trying to get his execution date set. That was ten years ago. So, yes, Tuesday murders. All of the murders happened on a Tuesday or overnight Tuesday, so the victims might have been found on Wednesday, but it seemed as though he was killing people on Tuesdays Tuesday night.
00:04:31
Speaker 1: See anything or what was the Was this just a coincidence or there was some theory behind why it lined up that way?
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Speaker 2: Who knows. But obviously, if you've been slightly obsessed with serial killers and they usually have patterns, they usually leave some sort of earmark. They'll either take some sort of a trophy, or they'll do something to kind of almost leave their signature or their stamp on a murder to kind of almost take credit for it, so police know, Yeah, guys, it's me again, and so it would read with what you hear about other serial killers doing. There is some planning, there's some method to their madness. We might not be able to get in their brains. But it seems odd that it would just be random. It sounds like it was something he chose. It sounds like something he did deliberately. That was his mark. I'll do it on a Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: Well, in nineteen eighty seven, on a Tuesday, here a double murder. This is when he broke into the home of a couple that was sleeping. This was a twenty two year old and a twenty year old couple. The man, Edgar Alger, happened to be an airman's a US Service member. These folks pretty vicious here. The woman and Louise Peterson was shot two times. The man he had his throat slashed and was shot three times. Again. No rhyme or reason or why these folks, why this house, why this night.
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Speaker 2: It might have been a crime of opportunity, but they I was reading the details of this attack and look Edward Alger. It just it's heartbreaking when you hear about this. You put yourself in that place at that time, And they said he fought like hell. He fought like hell, and so as even when his throat was slashed, he was fighting back and pushing and punching, and that's when he went ahead and shot him. They said his mo the Tuesday killer, Frank Athan Wall, preferred to use a knife, and so he started out with a knife. But because things got heated and Edward Alger wasn't going down without a major fight, he ended up shooting him. But his method or his weapon of choice in these murders was a knife.
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Speaker 1: And to that point, the person he ends up admitting to killing prior to killing this couple, the scariest part you just mentioned the share was talking about how they were terrorized. The woman he admitted to killing. That killing had been two months prior and a block away from where he had killed the couple.
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Speaker 2: Yes, this was Audrey Geege. She was forty seven years old and she was stabbed to death at her home and she had children and actually grandchildren. And we will read you her granddaughter's statement because it's very powerful and speaks to where these family members who are still alive are in this journey that they have been on for four decades. But she and just think about the hole that leaves in a family. And she was just forty seven years old, so young, but again random. He had no connection to her. There was no reason why he needed to break into her home and stab her to death.
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Speaker 1: And the killing he admitted to from the previous year, nineteen eighty six, woman by the name of Cynthia Sue Condra, twenty four years old, another young lady stabbed a twenty one times.
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Speaker 2: Twenty one time.
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Speaker 1: This was vicious and I read somewhere he had no rhyme or reason. He explained kind of a way. He just has these fits of rage sometimes that overcome him. He in trying to explain some of his behavior, which it seems like robes. He didn't have answers either. But this is some This is some vicious stuff. In every single one of these, it's something horrific. And the first one he admitted to in nineteen eighty five, this is another one that just you're like Jesus.
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Speaker 2: She was lying out in the sun, sunbathing in her bikini. This was in March of nineteen eighty five. She was just nineteen years old, so he was seventeen at the time. She was nineteen. Just can you I think about this. Oh my goodness, my daughters loved doing this. Laying out in the sun, you're closing your eyes, maybe you have music playing. You are not thinking for one second you're in any danger in the middle of the day, sunbathing. But he admitted to raping her and slashing her throat, and that was the first murder. Although he was never convicted in that, he admitted to it as part of a plea deal to avoid a second death penalty conviction.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so an avoiding a trial. But yeah, idea, it's possible. I was asking you, but it was possible. He was facing a double death penalty in some of these, so that's why the deals were made.
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Speaker 2: Back.
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Speaker 1: I just that's tough roles when you talk about justice. A conviction, okay, is one thing, but the punishment hasn't been carried out. It's almost it sounds crazy, but if someone has been convicted of a crime and they get twenty years in prison, but they get to stay at home before they get to go to jail, that's what is like. The sentence hasn't really been carried out until the death penalty is carried out, and to wait forty years for essentially what he was is supposed to be his punishment, correct.
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Speaker 2: And so look, wherever you stand on the death penalty, this is wrong. This is wrong because if you are if you're going to have a sentence of death, then that sentence should be carried out. Yes, somebody has to have the opportunity to appeal it and all of that. So fine, I understand there has to some period of time where there's a fair appeals process in place. But forty years and look, we've said this and it has been noted and studied. The death penalty is not a deterrent for criminals. First of all, no one thinks they're going to get caught. But also in the system we're in, a lot of them might think, yeah, but I'm still going to have thirty years before I'm actually going to be put to death, so I'll be able to appeal it, I'll be able to overturn it. It doesn't feel as frightening because it's so delayed. We're not just talking a couple of years or even a couple decades. Forty This is not the first time we have seen forty years go by.
00:10:41
Speaker 1: You were telling me there have been a couple more. I remember the thirty seven. But this is just nobody. Again, Like you said, no matter how you feel about it, through forty years is too long for any family to have to wait for justice to be carried out. We did mention a family member. Some are speaking again with so many I think I saw that a husband and I think two kids of one of the victims has actually passed away since so they weren't around to see this day. But the granddaughter, who was two years old at the time, probably no memory of grandma. But she was two years old at the time, and she is still fighting for her family. I applaud that I do too.
00:11:21
Speaker 2: Can you imagine she probably, I mean, obviously, she grew up with this story. She grew up knowing this. This was I'm sure a huge hole in her family, and she felt that even though she doesn't remember her grandmother, I'm sure she sees pictures and has heard all the stories. So yeah, she's passionate about this, and so she told She told a local reporter, I am going to have a drink and toast to my grandma and close that chapter. She's probably pouring her drink right now as you listen to this.
00:11:53
Speaker 1: I didn't get word of who was attending. I don't know if any family members of the victims would be in attendance, but it's always interesting to hear and oftentimes they don't want to be there, and oftentimes they we've seen plenty that don't want the executions to go forward. This is not that case.
00:12:10
Speaker 2: No, no, this this is something that at least we're here, and honestly, like you said, so many of the people affected and impacted by his murder spree, by his violence are no longer here. So we just have heard from this granddaughter and I understand. Look, we have been very outspoken about certain death penalty cases and concerns about guilt or innocence. This one is not that case. And this one is just so evil and so unexplained and so concerning. If he wasn't caught, assuredly he would have continued, well wow, there was nothing stopping him.
00:12:52
Speaker 1: But what do they get? I mean, defendants, right, people arrested have a right to a speedy trial? Or is there no right to a speedy justice? Is there? Know? Why is anybody having to wait forty years for this to be carried out?
00:13:06
Speaker 2: Yes, and he tried very like diligently through his attorneys to not die. He is fighting his death sentence. He has said he's mentally disabled. But then again I was reading he apparently told some jail worker that he was faking it, that he was faking being mentally insufficient so that he could get off of the death penalty, like deliberately failing as IQ test, et cetera, et cetera. So anyway, no one was buying it. It wasn't that he tried, and his attorneys tried to get a stay of execution up until the last few days, citing all sorts of things, but among them that he's mentally disabled and the fact that he was nineteen years old when he was convicted or seventeen when he committed his first murder, but he was convicted on the murder he committed, I believe when he was eighteen or nineteen, And that's where the rule is, yes, and maybe that is why they chose that case to prosecute him with, because he was of age to be considered or to be eligible for the death penalty.
00:14:04
Speaker 1: Well, folks, as you have been listening to us in this episode, it is quite possible that Frank Athan Walls has been declared dead. Usually lethal injection doesn't take that long. We have seen some cases where it's taking up to maybe twenty minutes before an official declaration of death, but these often do go fairly quickly. Now, this would be the forty seventh execution in the United States this year. That's the most we've seen since two thousand and nine. This is the forty seventh of the year. It's possible we could still see a forty eighth before the new year. We'll explain. Stay here, Welcome back, folks to this episode of Amy and TJ. No matter what we talk about justice for a family, but it's just it's a solemn evening and experience and the thoughts of what takes place to have a an execution. There as steps that have to take place, but we are as a country, we are as a community officially sanctioning this person's death, and it's just you know, it's life is life, and I get it, and this is the punishment is there and it's legal. It just always makes you stop and reflect. Yes, by what we do is just always heavy.
00:15:32
Speaker 2: It's heavy. It's a solemn event, it's a solemn occasion, and it marks closure for a lot of families. It marks justice for a lot of folks. But it's controversial, obviously. It's something you can't take back, it's not something you can undo. And it is clearly an eye for an eye, which a lot of folks just simply disagree with on a moral level that that's not how we should operate. We should, yes, make sure someone this evil Frank Athan Walls clearly evil. I don't think that's even up for discussion truly at this point. To be a teenaged serial killer, to have murdered five people before the age of twenty for no apparent reason other than your own personal rage within you and lack of complete self control. But he never needs to see the light of day. He never needs to ever be out in the public obviously. But his life ends today, and for some of his surviving family members of the victims of his are are happy to see this day com finally eventually.
00:16:43
Speaker 1: If that gives them peace today, then God bless them. That's just he wiped out and changed, he altered generations of family he did. That's something to think of, how he how he went about this. And these are young folks that he killed.
00:16:57
Speaker 2: Some of the women were so yeah, and so yes, every really everyone other than Audrey Gigee, who was forty seven. Everyone else was in their twenties, were they.
00:17:06
Speaker 1: Not twenty two, twenty four? And the first one was nineteen. So again, folks, we say the country has been a lot of executions this year, forty seven, that's the most in two thousand and nine robes. There's still a possibility up until at least Christmas Eve that we could see a forty eighth. We've been talking about, folks, what we're seeing in Georgia, where there was an execution scheduled for Tuesday, but the state Parole Board halted that while he tried to get some issues worked out and Rolls, I'm not sure if they're trying to get this worked out because the death warrant, the clock is ticking.
00:17:40
Speaker 2: It's unclear. So the death warrant goes, as you said, through Christmas Eve. The problem is, every person on death row is given and I guess it's their legal right to have a clemency hearing right before their scheduled execution, and so he had a scheduled clemency hearing this week. The problem was two of the members on this Board of Pardons and Parrol that it's a five member board. He would have to have three people vote in favor of clemency for him to get a stay of execution. Will two of the five have conflicts of interest because they were involved in some way, form or fashion in his case at the time, So one recused herself, the other said, okay, fine, I'll step aside. And now his attorneys were arguing he deserves to be able, his case should be able to be heard by five. The problem is they're not taking these people off the board. You can't add someone to the board. So they're kind of at an impasse right now. What did they do? What's legally correct, what's morally correct? Who knows how they're going to figure it out, but they don't have much time. It's not just that it's Christmas Eve. It's the holidays and.
00:18:53
Speaker 1: Everybody's out of town. Everybody wants to do something else. Certain they don't want to be dealing with this. And I can't imagine if they do a Christmas Eve execution. That's not happening.
00:19:01
Speaker 2: That doesn't seem right possible.
00:19:03
Speaker 1: So it would have to be much sooner now. If the death warn't expires, they can get another one next year. But it doesn't appear they can get this worked out in time. So maybe we'll stop at forty seven for the year and won't get to forty eight. But my goodness, Florida nineteen executions this year, previous record with eight. Desantas ain't messing around that now.
00:19:21
Speaker 2: No, he isn't in Florida. I guess Georgia might have to take a page out of his his playbook if they're trying to at least get their ducks in a row. But DeSantis, he was. He was dotting all those eyes and crossing all those t's, and he has not backed down. I wouldn't. He's one that if you're on death row, you're not getting a stay of execution in the state of Florida from DeSantis. He's made that very clear.
00:19:46
Speaker 1: Don't bother to type that letter.
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Speaker 2: Don't even the phone could be off the hook, it's not going to ring at the last second. I think we feel very confident in that Florida no need.
00:19:57
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, folks, Well, we always appreciate you, and it's been a hell of a year with these executions, but we always appreciate you spending some time and having these discussions with us. We have actually learned a lot this year, I would say rogues. So, folks, we will talk to you soon on behalf of my dear Amy Robot. I'm TJ. Hawks.