Oct. 29, 2025
The Louvre Heist Mystery Deepens: Where are the Missing Jewels?
Apple Podcasts 
Spotify 
Castro 
RSS Feed The Paris Prosecutor held a massive news conference today on the latest update on the Louvre $102 million jewelry heist! After thanking everyone and congratulating one another…. The big announcement was the jewels are still missing and so are two of the robbery suspects! We did get some fascinating new details on the arrest of two other suspects and learned more about how they pulled off the seven minute, historic heist.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey, there're folks. It is Wednesday, October twenty ninth, and week just a short time ago saw a huge press conference French officials lined up congratulating each other over the Louver heist. Arrests have been made and the big question everybody has is what Robes, where are the jewels? And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ and Robes. If they're coming out congratulating each other and telling us about the arrests and giving us details, surely you wouldn't come out and say congratulations without telling us where the jewels are.
00:00:44
Speaker 2: Well, these are, or at least they are surrounding the same folks who told us that there were no security failures at the Louver. So just take that all into perspective. But yes, you came running back from the front room because you saw that this press conference. Oh god, and you said, Robes, oh my god, we're gonna get all of these amazing details from this press conference. I can't wait to hear it. You turned the volume up, yep, And honestly, at one point we started laughing. That's actually an honest response to what we were watching and what more importantly we were hearing or not hearing congratulations, naming off all these folks. Congratulations. Okay, So waiting for the headline, waiting for the headline, waiting for the headline never came.
00:01:33
Speaker 1: And look, we robes here in this country, and certainly us covering news for a long time, are used to these press conferences where oftentimes we're like, just give us the information. But instead they have to stand there. They have to introduce this person from this county agency, so and so on, here from the sheriff's office, someone here representing the governor's office, that all these things introductions. Yes, she did a bunch of introductions at the top, well, long line of people sitting there, a bunch She's coming. She named people, she named the number of people have been working. She went on.
00:02:07
Speaker 3: It was like a long drum roll, wait for it got to be it, and the it, I suppose what would you say that it was?
00:02:18
Speaker 1: What was the highlight?
00:02:20
Speaker 2: The highlight?
00:02:21
Speaker 1: The headline?
00:02:23
Speaker 2: The headline was that they still don't have two of the four thieves. They aren't naming the two thieves that they have, They don't know where the jewels are. And they were trying to appeal to the common sense of the thieves to just go ahead give the jewelry.
00:02:45
Speaker 1: Back, okay, And you actually got more headlines out of it than I was able to come up with. But yes, folks, we did, and I it's a true story. I was thinking this was going to be the big breaking news, because you would not put on a show like they were putting on if you didn't have more to say. But what they essentially did, Robes was confirm what was already leaked and reported by other outlets. So what they did do, though, they did confirm two arrests, two men in their thirties. One was at Charles de Gaulle last Saturday, trying to fly out of the country. He had a one way ticket going to Algeria. Another guy they arrested in his neighborhood. They said he had no plans, no travel, and he was actually caught at the home and in the neighborhood where he grew up. So those were some of the new details that they gave us. One of the men been living in France in twenty ten. Another one, and this got attention and you thought, wait a minute, what's going on because they reported that he was working as an illegal taxi driver there for some time in France, and when you first read it somewhere else, it just said taxi drivering like, wait a minute, don't you have to get clearances? This guy has a criminal history?
00:03:54
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was like, how could a taxi driver have actually a violent criminal history? So I was concerned about that. But these were known dudes, I guess within the criminal system. But it's pretty fascinating. They did explain how they were able to find these men. They actually recovered DNA from a scooter used in the heist and a window at the loop, like trace amounts of DNA. They said, in because these guys had committed crimes before their DNA was in the system, and they knew who to go after. They knew who to go and try and hunt down and arrest.
00:04:28
Speaker 1: And they say they are still hunting down too now. They say they have been able to confirm through their video surveillance they believe only four people were involved. They also say that they have no indication that anybody inside the museum was involved, so this was not an inside job. They do not believe. I thought it was interesting robe she's appealing. It was kind of an appeal to anybody who might be holding on to these for safe keeping, who might be interested in selling these with their or excuse me, buying them for their private collection, or buying the stones have already been chopped up. She tried to, I guess, appeal to your common sense, not necessarily your humanity, but essentially saying, what's the point, folks, You can't do anything with it.
00:05:13
Speaker 2: Yes, she said, the jewels are now, of course unsellable, so anyone who buys them would be guilty of concealment of stolen goods. So then she said, there's still time to give them back. So I don't know how effective that plea is going to be, but that was what they at least tried to take. This opportunity with the cameras rolling. Can you do that appeal to the criminals.
00:05:36
Speaker 1: It's like a newborn, You leave it at the fire station, no questions asked. Can you really walk back in here and say, hey, here are you jewels? All good?
00:05:44
Speaker 2: I doubt it. I doubt that very much so, but yes, they're saying that these jewels, anyone who is an actual jeweler or anyone who knows what they're buying would recognize that this is not these are you know, these are diamonds from what the what is that the fifteenth century? I don't even know how far back they go, but certainly they probably got something that sets them apart from all others.
00:06:09
Speaker 1: I wasn't helping you out on the date because I didn't know it. Yeah, I wasn't trying to leave you hanging.
00:06:14
Speaker 2: But yeah, so that was her plea to and the folks who still have them, these two other men who they are looking for. We also found out that they stole this cherry picker.
00:06:24
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, apparently it was a I've never heard of a cherry picker jacking, but it was apparently what happened. They jacked somebody from this thing a few days before the actual robbery. So those were new details we got. And also they made the point again the guys did bring in disc cutters to rob the place, and she said, even though these things can look intimidating, we have no indication that they ever used them in a threatening way.
00:06:50
Speaker 2: Yep, all right. And then they also did acknowledge because earlier, as I joked on the top of this episode, that French authorities almost immediately were oddly quick to defend the security that the system did not break down, the system worked as it should, which was such a strange thing to say when four men, unarmed were able to steal more than one hundred million dollars worth of really truly priceless jewels in eight minutes and get away, So that was kind of a strange statement. Well, in the press conference today we heard them acknowledge that the Lover's authorization to operate its own security cameras expired in July and wasn't renewed. There was some sort of paperwork lapse, and so they weren't able to operate their own security cameras at the Louver, probably the most renowned museum in the world. Yes, fact, that is insane to think about.
00:07:52
Speaker 1: Where are these two guys like and where is this stuff? Look, that is the question, right, they're congratulating each other and this was the day, So the question is where are those jewels now? Bro She gave some She tried to tap dance a little bit and said I don't want to say too much, and she made clear or clear indications that she believed she could say something that could spook the other guys or in some way compromise their investigation. Obviously, those guys know how hot they are right now? Are they going to be able to get out of the country? Where are those jewels? I'm fascinated somebody just walking around with a duffel bag with the stuff in it.
00:08:33
Speaker 2: And I'm curious if they know who they're looking for. How much of these other two men actually given them in terms of information? Do they have more DNA tying the other two men to this crime, because weren't the reports that only two of them went up on the cherry picker and went through the windows, So that's where the other two stayed below. So who knows if their DNA is on anything, and if they even know who they're looking for it didn't. It is strange. So in the middle of all of these congratulations, they also admitted that while the police officers arrived extremely fast after the theft, they said that there was a lag in response earlier in the chain as the events unfolded, so from the first detection to the museum security, to the emergency line to then police. So they're admitting now that they messed up or at least lost some very crucial moments in the early part of this heist. So again, it just was such a bizarre press conference to hear them all, or at least hear the lead spokeswoman pat everyone on the back, and then go through all of the failures that happened, and again the headline, we still don't know where the jewels are.
00:09:46
Speaker 1: Don't want to take away from the fact, you know they're working around the clock. Of course, you know there are a lot of good people over there, good investigators, who are working their butt off to get this done. So can't take that away. It just we are not used to. Maybe they do it differently quite frankly over there, but a congratulations mid investigation, and especially when it's I guess the I guess. Do you think France would be okay to get the jewels back and never catch the thieves?
00:10:15
Speaker 4: Right?
00:10:15
Speaker 2: Hard to say, I mean, the French do things very differently.
00:10:18
Speaker 1: But I want to it is for you as a countryman of the United States. I don't know what our crown jewels are, but if you right, how would the French feel about that? Just give us our jewels back and I really don't care if that's the trade off. They get away with it and we get our jewels.
00:10:34
Speaker 2: Fine, Yeah, I'm sure if they could find a way they would because here's the problem. We talked about how much money is missing in terms of the value of these very priceless, obviously historic theirs, historic value and emotional value to these items as well, but one hundred and two million, one hundred and two million dollars. And with this heist, there was another massive blind spot or issue that perhaps they weren't really focused on that now they are very aware.
00:11:07
Speaker 3: Of and.
00:11:17
Speaker 2: Continuing now our conversation on this massive Louver heist, we had a big, seemingly impressive, important press conference this afternoon talking about what officials have been able to accomplish in these ten days since the jewels were stolen, and certainly an update on the jewels themselves. Well, it turns out there are two men behind bars and actually this was interesting right now with what they're being charged with, this is shocking given the weight of the story, the value of what was stolen, the fact that they still don't have these jewels back, and the fact that the world is watching. How much time behind bars are these men facing if convicted? Oh, they say years, what up to fifteen years?
00:12:03
Speaker 1: Up to fifteen years? I mean, maybe it doesn't matter if they stole something that was worth five thousand dollars or if it worth one hundred and two million. I wonder if it's categorized all the same. It doesn't matter. The value goes up and your prison sentence goes up.
00:12:18
Speaker 4: I don't know.
00:12:19
Speaker 1: But these guys didn't use a weapon, and the commissioning of this crime, nobody was threatened, nobody was harmed. They broke a window and they broke a little glass, got some valuable stuff.
00:12:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they Yeah, they stole one hundred and two million dollars worth of historic, priceless Crown jewels. I mean, it is insane. I was thinking because they weren't armed that maybe that's why. But certainly you would think the value of what they stole and the fact that it hasn't been recovered would play into what their potential punishment is. But yes, they are telling us they're each facing up to fifteen years behind bars. That was shocking. Another shocking development in all of this, the Louver based had to admit that, whoopsie, the jewels were not insured, and that is shocking to a lot of people, I.
00:13:12
Speaker 4: Guess, but you shouldn't have to ensure the most important things in your collection. These are the French crown rules we don't need private insurance to ensure them, because that's essentially us saying we don't trust ourselves to protect these precious items, right, that's on you, France.
00:13:38
Speaker 2: So that's what the French state says it self ensures its national museums because can you imagine they say the premiums for covering priceless heritage are astronomically high, so it's not worth it to them. However, could they have ever anticipated this. You would obviously say it might have been worth it to pay.
00:14:02
Speaker 1: Well, we say that now, but still I would never It's like it's like Donald Trump needing private insurance for something he keeps in the White House. It's protected, it's not gonna go missing. I wouldn't think to ensure things that are in a fortified spot like that.
00:14:22
Speaker 2: That does make sense.
00:14:22
Speaker 1: It's just that friends didn't fortify. They forgot to dress up that window a little bit apparently.
00:14:28
Speaker 2: But it is interesting to see how the French handle things. The fact that their security cameras, eh, didn't bother to keep those operating. Yeah, you know, we just didn't want to ensure anything. And it's the premiums. Have you seen what those are like these days, and then the congratulatory tone that we did nothing wrong. And another interesting point, the Louve's director tried to hand in her resignation saying, look, this happened on my watch. I'm out. They refused the resignation, and so so there have been no punishments or no one has suffered any sort of consequence for the lapses that clearly were there, and certainly there were some people who let things slip through the cracks. However, so far no one seems to be pointing the finger at anybody. Maybe we could all take a lesson from the French here in this country, where that's all we seem to know how to do is point the finger at other people before we even try to find the jewels. We'd be saying, who needed to pay the price for letting it happen in the first place.
00:15:33
Speaker 1: These things happen, right, These things happen all right, folks. Well, we will keep an eye on this one. But apparently those jewels are still out there. Keep an eye out for them. Also, two dudes, no descriptions, no nothing they've given us where they're looking, who they might be looking for. But it's two more dudes running around out there somewhere bleaned up.
00:15:56
Speaker 2: It's a French mystery.
00:15:58
Speaker 1: Yes, folks, we'll follow it from the States, but I always appreciate you listening to us. Signed DJ Holmes alongside my partner Amy Robot. We'll talk to y'all soon.
Speaker 1: Hey, there're folks. It is Wednesday, October twenty ninth, and week just a short time ago saw a huge press conference French officials lined up congratulating each other over the Louver heist. Arrests have been made and the big question everybody has is what Robes, where are the jewels? And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ and Robes. If they're coming out congratulating each other and telling us about the arrests and giving us details, surely you wouldn't come out and say congratulations without telling us where the jewels are.
00:00:44
Speaker 2: Well, these are, or at least they are surrounding the same folks who told us that there were no security failures at the Louver. So just take that all into perspective. But yes, you came running back from the front room because you saw that this press conference. Oh god, and you said, Robes, oh my god, we're gonna get all of these amazing details from this press conference. I can't wait to hear it. You turned the volume up, yep, And honestly, at one point we started laughing. That's actually an honest response to what we were watching and what more importantly we were hearing or not hearing congratulations, naming off all these folks. Congratulations. Okay, So waiting for the headline, waiting for the headline, waiting for the headline never came.
00:01:33
Speaker 1: And look, we robes here in this country, and certainly us covering news for a long time, are used to these press conferences where oftentimes we're like, just give us the information. But instead they have to stand there. They have to introduce this person from this county agency, so and so on, here from the sheriff's office, someone here representing the governor's office, that all these things introductions. Yes, she did a bunch of introductions at the top, well, long line of people sitting there, a bunch She's coming. She named people, she named the number of people have been working. She went on.
00:02:07
Speaker 3: It was like a long drum roll, wait for it got to be it, and the it, I suppose what would you say that it was?
00:02:18
Speaker 1: What was the highlight?
00:02:20
Speaker 2: The highlight?
00:02:21
Speaker 1: The headline?
00:02:23
Speaker 2: The headline was that they still don't have two of the four thieves. They aren't naming the two thieves that they have, They don't know where the jewels are. And they were trying to appeal to the common sense of the thieves to just go ahead give the jewelry.
00:02:45
Speaker 1: Back, okay, And you actually got more headlines out of it than I was able to come up with. But yes, folks, we did, and I it's a true story. I was thinking this was going to be the big breaking news, because you would not put on a show like they were putting on if you didn't have more to say. But what they essentially did, Robes was confirm what was already leaked and reported by other outlets. So what they did do, though, they did confirm two arrests, two men in their thirties. One was at Charles de Gaulle last Saturday, trying to fly out of the country. He had a one way ticket going to Algeria. Another guy they arrested in his neighborhood. They said he had no plans, no travel, and he was actually caught at the home and in the neighborhood where he grew up. So those were some of the new details that they gave us. One of the men been living in France in twenty ten. Another one, and this got attention and you thought, wait a minute, what's going on because they reported that he was working as an illegal taxi driver there for some time in France, and when you first read it somewhere else, it just said taxi drivering like, wait a minute, don't you have to get clearances? This guy has a criminal history?
00:03:54
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was like, how could a taxi driver have actually a violent criminal history? So I was concerned about that. But these were known dudes, I guess within the criminal system. But it's pretty fascinating. They did explain how they were able to find these men. They actually recovered DNA from a scooter used in the heist and a window at the loop, like trace amounts of DNA. They said, in because these guys had committed crimes before their DNA was in the system, and they knew who to go after. They knew who to go and try and hunt down and arrest.
00:04:28
Speaker 1: And they say they are still hunting down too now. They say they have been able to confirm through their video surveillance they believe only four people were involved. They also say that they have no indication that anybody inside the museum was involved, so this was not an inside job. They do not believe. I thought it was interesting robe she's appealing. It was kind of an appeal to anybody who might be holding on to these for safe keeping, who might be interested in selling these with their or excuse me, buying them for their private collection, or buying the stones have already been chopped up. She tried to, I guess, appeal to your common sense, not necessarily your humanity, but essentially saying, what's the point, folks, You can't do anything with it.
00:05:13
Speaker 2: Yes, she said, the jewels are now, of course unsellable, so anyone who buys them would be guilty of concealment of stolen goods. So then she said, there's still time to give them back. So I don't know how effective that plea is going to be, but that was what they at least tried to take. This opportunity with the cameras rolling. Can you do that appeal to the criminals.
00:05:36
Speaker 1: It's like a newborn, You leave it at the fire station, no questions asked. Can you really walk back in here and say, hey, here are you jewels? All good?
00:05:44
Speaker 2: I doubt it. I doubt that very much so, but yes, they're saying that these jewels, anyone who is an actual jeweler or anyone who knows what they're buying would recognize that this is not these are you know, these are diamonds from what the what is that the fifteenth century? I don't even know how far back they go, but certainly they probably got something that sets them apart from all others.
00:06:09
Speaker 1: I wasn't helping you out on the date because I didn't know it. Yeah, I wasn't trying to leave you hanging.
00:06:14
Speaker 2: But yeah, so that was her plea to and the folks who still have them, these two other men who they are looking for. We also found out that they stole this cherry picker.
00:06:24
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, apparently it was a I've never heard of a cherry picker jacking, but it was apparently what happened. They jacked somebody from this thing a few days before the actual robbery. So those were new details we got. And also they made the point again the guys did bring in disc cutters to rob the place, and she said, even though these things can look intimidating, we have no indication that they ever used them in a threatening way.
00:06:50
Speaker 2: Yep, all right. And then they also did acknowledge because earlier, as I joked on the top of this episode, that French authorities almost immediately were oddly quick to defend the security that the system did not break down, the system worked as it should, which was such a strange thing to say when four men, unarmed were able to steal more than one hundred million dollars worth of really truly priceless jewels in eight minutes and get away, So that was kind of a strange statement. Well, in the press conference today we heard them acknowledge that the Lover's authorization to operate its own security cameras expired in July and wasn't renewed. There was some sort of paperwork lapse, and so they weren't able to operate their own security cameras at the Louver, probably the most renowned museum in the world. Yes, fact, that is insane to think about.
00:07:52
Speaker 1: Where are these two guys like and where is this stuff? Look, that is the question, right, they're congratulating each other and this was the day, So the question is where are those jewels now? Bro She gave some She tried to tap dance a little bit and said I don't want to say too much, and she made clear or clear indications that she believed she could say something that could spook the other guys or in some way compromise their investigation. Obviously, those guys know how hot they are right now? Are they going to be able to get out of the country? Where are those jewels? I'm fascinated somebody just walking around with a duffel bag with the stuff in it.
00:08:33
Speaker 2: And I'm curious if they know who they're looking for. How much of these other two men actually given them in terms of information? Do they have more DNA tying the other two men to this crime, because weren't the reports that only two of them went up on the cherry picker and went through the windows, So that's where the other two stayed below. So who knows if their DNA is on anything, and if they even know who they're looking for it didn't. It is strange. So in the middle of all of these congratulations, they also admitted that while the police officers arrived extremely fast after the theft, they said that there was a lag in response earlier in the chain as the events unfolded, so from the first detection to the museum security, to the emergency line to then police. So they're admitting now that they messed up or at least lost some very crucial moments in the early part of this heist. So again, it just was such a bizarre press conference to hear them all, or at least hear the lead spokeswoman pat everyone on the back, and then go through all of the failures that happened, and again the headline, we still don't know where the jewels are.
00:09:46
Speaker 1: Don't want to take away from the fact, you know they're working around the clock. Of course, you know there are a lot of good people over there, good investigators, who are working their butt off to get this done. So can't take that away. It just we are not used to. Maybe they do it differently quite frankly over there, but a congratulations mid investigation, and especially when it's I guess the I guess. Do you think France would be okay to get the jewels back and never catch the thieves?
00:10:15
Speaker 4: Right?
00:10:15
Speaker 2: Hard to say, I mean, the French do things very differently.
00:10:18
Speaker 1: But I want to it is for you as a countryman of the United States. I don't know what our crown jewels are, but if you right, how would the French feel about that? Just give us our jewels back and I really don't care if that's the trade off. They get away with it and we get our jewels.
00:10:34
Speaker 2: Fine, Yeah, I'm sure if they could find a way they would because here's the problem. We talked about how much money is missing in terms of the value of these very priceless, obviously historic theirs, historic value and emotional value to these items as well, but one hundred and two million, one hundred and two million dollars. And with this heist, there was another massive blind spot or issue that perhaps they weren't really focused on that now they are very aware.
00:11:07
Speaker 3: Of and.
00:11:17
Speaker 2: Continuing now our conversation on this massive Louver heist, we had a big, seemingly impressive, important press conference this afternoon talking about what officials have been able to accomplish in these ten days since the jewels were stolen, and certainly an update on the jewels themselves. Well, it turns out there are two men behind bars and actually this was interesting right now with what they're being charged with, this is shocking given the weight of the story, the value of what was stolen, the fact that they still don't have these jewels back, and the fact that the world is watching. How much time behind bars are these men facing if convicted? Oh, they say years, what up to fifteen years?
00:12:03
Speaker 1: Up to fifteen years? I mean, maybe it doesn't matter if they stole something that was worth five thousand dollars or if it worth one hundred and two million. I wonder if it's categorized all the same. It doesn't matter. The value goes up and your prison sentence goes up.
00:12:18
Speaker 4: I don't know.
00:12:19
Speaker 1: But these guys didn't use a weapon, and the commissioning of this crime, nobody was threatened, nobody was harmed. They broke a window and they broke a little glass, got some valuable stuff.
00:12:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they Yeah, they stole one hundred and two million dollars worth of historic, priceless Crown jewels. I mean, it is insane. I was thinking because they weren't armed that maybe that's why. But certainly you would think the value of what they stole and the fact that it hasn't been recovered would play into what their potential punishment is. But yes, they are telling us they're each facing up to fifteen years behind bars. That was shocking. Another shocking development in all of this, the Louver based had to admit that, whoopsie, the jewels were not insured, and that is shocking to a lot of people, I.
00:13:12
Speaker 4: Guess, but you shouldn't have to ensure the most important things in your collection. These are the French crown rules we don't need private insurance to ensure them, because that's essentially us saying we don't trust ourselves to protect these precious items, right, that's on you, France.
00:13:38
Speaker 2: So that's what the French state says it self ensures its national museums because can you imagine they say the premiums for covering priceless heritage are astronomically high, so it's not worth it to them. However, could they have ever anticipated this. You would obviously say it might have been worth it to pay.
00:14:02
Speaker 1: Well, we say that now, but still I would never It's like it's like Donald Trump needing private insurance for something he keeps in the White House. It's protected, it's not gonna go missing. I wouldn't think to ensure things that are in a fortified spot like that.
00:14:22
Speaker 2: That does make sense.
00:14:22
Speaker 1: It's just that friends didn't fortify. They forgot to dress up that window a little bit apparently.
00:14:28
Speaker 2: But it is interesting to see how the French handle things. The fact that their security cameras, eh, didn't bother to keep those operating. Yeah, you know, we just didn't want to ensure anything. And it's the premiums. Have you seen what those are like these days, and then the congratulatory tone that we did nothing wrong. And another interesting point, the Louve's director tried to hand in her resignation saying, look, this happened on my watch. I'm out. They refused the resignation, and so so there have been no punishments or no one has suffered any sort of consequence for the lapses that clearly were there, and certainly there were some people who let things slip through the cracks. However, so far no one seems to be pointing the finger at anybody. Maybe we could all take a lesson from the French here in this country, where that's all we seem to know how to do is point the finger at other people before we even try to find the jewels. We'd be saying, who needed to pay the price for letting it happen in the first place.
00:15:33
Speaker 1: These things happen, right, These things happen all right, folks. Well, we will keep an eye on this one. But apparently those jewels are still out there. Keep an eye out for them. Also, two dudes, no descriptions, no nothing they've given us where they're looking, who they might be looking for. But it's two more dudes running around out there somewhere bleaned up.
00:15:56
Speaker 2: It's a French mystery.
00:15:58
Speaker 1: Yes, folks, we'll follow it from the States, but I always appreciate you listening to us. Signed DJ Holmes alongside my partner Amy Robot. We'll talk to y'all soon.