Oct. 9, 2026
Son Arrested After 49-Year-Old Mom Found Shot To Death In Kitchen
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RSS Feed After an hours long manhunt, 22-year-old Ryan Hanafin is in custody and believed to be responsible for shooting and killing his own mother. Hanafin was arrested after his father found his wife, 49-year-old Andria in the kitchen, dead. Their 13-year-old son was unharmed inside the home, and their older daughter was away at college, but Ryan was missing along with his vehicle. Police tracked Ryan down in Vermont and he’s expected to face murder charges when he faces a judge later this afternoon. This is the first murder in Reading, Massachusetts in more than a decade.
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00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Friday, October 9th, and a Massachusetts mother found shot dead in her home. Police immediately start looking for her adult son. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. This was a manhunt. Didn't go that long, but in this case, police seem to know exactly who they wanted to talk to for this crime.
00:00:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is such a disturbing story, again, out of Massachusetts. But 49-year-old Andrea Hannafin was found shot to death in her own kitchen. Her husband walked in after work. He works a late shift, so he gets in just after midnight to find his wife shot dead. He immediately tries to figure out who else is.
00:00:50
Speaker 3: In the house.
00:00:50
Speaker 2: He finds his 13-year-old son, who is alive and well, and who is missing today. their 22-year-old son who had been living with them, Ryan Hannafin, and his car was gone as well. He calls 911, and a manhunt ensues.
00:01:06
Speaker 1: So I guess they, I mean, they pieced a few things together. It didn't take them long to figure out, right, they couldn't get a hold of the older son. They know he has guns. And the other, I guess, robes, the shocking part of the story that we get into in the storytelling is just that the 13-year-old was home with his dead mother in the kitchen and didn't know it. Yes.
00:01:26
Speaker 2: So this is exceptionally disturbing. So the 13-year-old brother said he saw his mom alive and well at 5 p.m. when he left to go hang out with some friends. So he says goodbye to his mom.
00:01:39
Speaker 3: She's good.
00:01:40
Speaker 2: He comes back home at 9 p.m. and he just goes straight to his room. So typical, a 13-year-old kid. I mean, thank God he didn't need food or a glass of milk or whatever and go into the kitchen because that's where his mom was.
00:01:56
Speaker 3: Can you imagine?
00:01:56
Speaker 2: So he just goes straight to his room. He has no idea his mom is dead in the kitchen.
00:02:02
Speaker 1: You mentioned that now. You don't think sometimes in this mess, little blessings. I'm glad he didn't have to find his mom. I mean, this is all horrible, but that would have been even worse.
00:02:12
Speaker 2: Oh, to have been the one to have discovered her, to have that image, to have that in his head for the rest of his life.
00:02:18
Speaker 3: You're right.
00:02:18
Speaker 2: That is a blessing that he ended up just doing what a lot of 13-year-old kids would do. Like, who cares about mom and dad? I'm just going straight to my room, going straight to my computer and going to bed.
00:02:29
Speaker 3: But it was.
00:02:31
Speaker 2: His father, her husband, Matthew, who made the 911 call. I can't imagine the horror of that discovery. And then to think, to believe that it was even possible that your adult son could have been behind it all.
00:02:46
Speaker 1: But your first thought, I guess, right, Rose, would be, where's everybody else?
00:02:50
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:02:51
Speaker 1: And I assume that he would have thought as well, where are both of our kids? Or, I don't know, Rose, did he immediately think... Who knows what the family dynamics were, and there's not a lot of reporting on that other than how wonderful a woman this woman was. But Rose, to walk into that scene, his first thought had to be, where are my kids?
00:03:12
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
00:03:13
Speaker 2: And they do have, by the way, an older daughter.
00:03:15
Speaker 3: Thankfully, she was away at college.
00:03:18
Speaker 2: But just, again, I'm thinking about just the phone call to her and have to get your head around the idea that, A, your mom has been murdered, and that, B, your brother is is the suspect in the shooting. Now, what we know about this 22 year old kid, Ryan, not a lot. We know that he, um, as you mentioned, legally owned several guns. He had a license actually to carry a firearm. We should point out that was immediately suspended once he was named a person of interest and he was on the lamb. He has no known history of mental health issues that really stood out to me. Oftentimes these cases are rare. But when we do hear about them, I'm thinking of Nick Reiner immediately. There was immediately word and news of documented mental health issues. This kid apparently didn't have any, we know he lived at home with his parents and he had been employed up until six months ago. And so he was living at home. Um, he was actually captured in Vermont. They say that they knew exactly where he was going. So it didn't take long, just a couple of hours. And he was arrested during a traffic stop. They knew what his vehicle looked like. He was pretty easy to find. And he was arrested without incident. We're going to hopefully learn more today. There's an arraignment hearing at 1230 p.m. And right now he's just being held on charges of being a fugitive from justice.
00:04:50
Speaker 1: But they are not looking for anybody else.
00:04:53
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
00:04:55
Speaker 2: They have specifically said that the community can rest assured. Look, initially, for several hours when he was on the run, there were alerts, there were tip lines. Police were telling community members to be on the lookout for but not to engage with this young man because he was considered, yes, armed illegal.
00:05:14
Speaker 3: And dangerous. So there were several hours, schools.
00:05:17
Speaker 2: Everywhere in the area. They were on lockdown. They were concerned about this. Now, I didn't realize this. Redding, Massachusetts. Don't know a lot about this area. This is the first murder in Redding, Massachusetts in more than a decade.
00:05:31
Speaker 3: What a shame.
00:05:32
Speaker 1: And it's a son at this point. No, they're not looking for anybody else. They haven't I'm not sure what language and legal language and why they're using the language, but obviously all signs are pointing to this being their suspect in this case, even though he hasn't been charged as such and formally named as such. But yeah, what a shame. A little community that's, I mean, you don't have murderers in that long a time. You think it's a pretty safe community. And the first one ends up being a son accused of killing his mama.
00:06:02
Speaker 3: It's awful. And the DA, she spoke out about this. This is how she put it. She said, it's shocking. It's tragic.
00:06:08
Speaker 2: It's alleged domestic violence at this point, although not the traditional domestic violence situation we think of. It's a moment of reflection about the presence of guns in a home during an alleged dispute. I thought that was an interesting way that she put it. And look, in terms of a dispute, It's hard to get your head around what they could have been fighting about because.
00:06:32
Speaker 3: You alluded to this earlier.
00:06:33
Speaker 2: Andrea Hannafin, look, a lot of her neighbors and her friends are talking immediately because they wanted to rush to not necessarily her defense, but to describe this woman who they are left in shock by the fact that anyone, let alone her son, would want to kill her. She's been described as Mother Teresa by her friends and neighbors. She was just so loving and giving to an extent that you don't know how she did it and how she had the reserves to give more, but she did. She always found a way. Another neighbor, she always said nice things about her kids. She loved her family.
00:07:09
Speaker 3: She did. And we knew Ryan. He's been at our house. So, I mean, I don't know what happened.
00:07:14
Speaker 2: I mean, literally the neighbors are saying that I have another neighbor who described Ryan as seeing his son cruising around in his little charger. He had motorbikes. What a nice family, just a nice family. The father's nice, worked on his car. This was a family described by everyone who knew them as a wonderful, loving family. So it's hard to imagine what possibly could have led to what this father.
00:07:37
Speaker 3: Walked in on.
00:07:38
Speaker 1: Look, he'll have a defense attorney. He will have a defense of some kind. I don't know if there's some explanation for what happened in that home, but it doesn't, they'll say he was scared, but it doesn't look great that he took off.
00:07:53
Speaker 3: No, he absolutely took off.
00:07:55
Speaker 2: And look, again, just to speak about this family and what we know, something that was interesting, you can see the pictures, obviously they had helicopters. There were There was police crime scene tape all around this home in this very suburban neighborhood. But you could see about a dozen pet carrier cases on the front lawn. And just speaking to who Andrea was, apparently she loved animals. She was a cat. She fostered cats. They said she had at least a dozen cats in the home. So look, now that she's gone. Seriously, who's taking care of all this? So they actually had animal control out there with police. So while police were investigating, you actually had animal control out there trying to make sure these cats were being taken care of because that was like her passion project.
00:08:38
Speaker 3: She was a cat lady.
00:08:40
Speaker 2: She was a loving mother, but she was somebody that just speaks to who she was, you know, just her giving nature, wanting to help cats who didn't have a home.
00:08:47
Speaker 3: It's just unbelievably tragic. And guess what?
00:08:50
Speaker 2: Thankfully, this is incredibly rare. When we come back, we're going to talk about what's called matricide. Yes, when children kill their mothers. It's rare, but it happens. And there are a lot of commonalities between when this happens, how it happens, and who commits these types of crimes.
00:09:12
Speaker 3: This one checks all the boxes. Welcome back everyone.
00:09:25
Speaker 2: To Amy and TJ, a just horrific scene in Massachusetts. 22-year-old Ryan Hannafin is likely to be charged officially later today with the murder of his own mother, 49-year-old Andrea Hannafin. She was the mother of three, found shot to death in her own kitchen, and yes, police believe her son is responsible. There was an hours-long manhunt. They do have him in custody, and he will be at a court hearing later this afternoon.
00:09:56
Speaker 3: But look, this is pretty fascinating.
00:09:58
Speaker 2: Matricide, a count around the world for roughly 0.68%.
00:10:04
Speaker 3: Of all murders. That's how rare this is.
00:10:07
Speaker 2: And here in the United States, it represents similarly less than 1% of all murders. So that's just how rare this type of a crime is. And I don't think this will be that shocking to most people listening. When a child kills a parent, between 85 and 90% of offenders are their sons.
00:10:31
Speaker 3: It's not the daughters, it's the sons.
00:10:34
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I guess we see this a lot when it comes to violent crimes and certainly murders with guns. This is primarily something we see men or sons committing.
00:10:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was.
00:10:47
Speaker 1: I guess I was surprised. I don't know why I automatically felt that the split, which parent gets killed most, why would I think it would lean more so towards the man, the dad being the one killed?
00:11:03
Speaker 3: So it's true.
00:11:03
Speaker 2: It's kind of evenly split, but when a son kills a parent... The mother is in 47% of the cases, the victim, and the father in 53% of the cases.
00:11:14
Speaker 3: So not that big of a difference.
00:11:16
Speaker 1: I thought it would. Why in my head did I think it would be more of a split?
00:11:20
Speaker 3: I would have thought that too. Now, here are the other interesting things.
00:11:22
Speaker 2: Most of these murders are adult sons, yes, and they act alone. Frequently, they live in the same household. They're unemployed, single, and illiterate. economically dependent on the victim. This literally checked every single one of these boxes. This young man apparently had recently become unemployed. He was single and he was living at home because yes, financially he had to. And so they say oftentimes this is about sharing an intense, often hostile, dependent relationship. They say oftentimes with a domineering mother, but there's no indication that this woman had any of those hallmarks. Everyone describes her as just a wonderful giving mother. And look, if you look at the Nick Reiner incident, both of his parents have been described as just being overly generous to this young man. But the distinction with Nick Reiner is that he had a documented history of schizophrenia.
00:12:22
Speaker 3: And that's what the studies show.
00:12:24
Speaker 2: That in cases where, in these rare cases where a son kills a parent, and in this case a mother, a high percentage of those murderers are experiencing a psychiatric disorder and schizophrenia. They actually specifically referenced, but they say it's a factor in nearly 70% of all cases where a son kills a mother. And so look, maybe we'll learn more in court. Maybe we'll learn more as this case progresses, but I just thought it was noticeable and notable that the authorities were very quick to say he had no history of mental illness. The other thing is they say, There's no history of police calls to this home, of any kind of domestic violence issues.
00:13:12
Speaker 1: What the hell happened in that house? Rose, what the hell happened? You described all those things, those characteristics, and I don't know if you can come up with them off the top of your head, but we covered a couple of familicides recently. There was one happening at dinner, but it was a couple of sons who were living at the house, and they ended up killing mom and wiping everybody out It's the exact thing. We just had this in recent months. Yes.
00:13:39
Speaker 2: And so you start to look at the signs, but it really is hard to distinguish.
00:13:44
Speaker 3: I don't know.
00:13:45
Speaker 2: I would think a parent would know their child more than anyone else. And yet, look, you know the Reiners kept Nick Reiner on their property. He wasn't living in their house, but he was living on their property. And so, look, it's just one of those kindness is rewarded or even the generosity of these parents to To keep them close, to financially support them, and then to have this be the result is just awful and certainly something that we need to learn from and about. Maybe the father, maybe the siblings will provide some sort of perspective, but from the neighbors, I know you don't ever know what's actually going on inside someone else's home. But the neighbors described seeing all of the family members out and about and knew them.
00:14:25
Speaker 3: They were a part of this small community of Redding, Massachusetts.
00:14:28
Speaker 2: So you know they all are looking for answers today and perhaps this afternoon and in the days and weeks to come we'll get some of those answers. But just wanted to put this on your radar, this tragedy in Massachusetts. We always appreciate you listening to us, everyone.
00:14:43
Speaker 3: I'm Amy Robach. Alongside TJ Holmes, we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Friday, October 9th, and a Massachusetts mother found shot dead in her home. Police immediately start looking for her adult son. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. This was a manhunt. Didn't go that long, but in this case, police seem to know exactly who they wanted to talk to for this crime.
00:00:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is such a disturbing story, again, out of Massachusetts. But 49-year-old Andrea Hannafin was found shot to death in her own kitchen. Her husband walked in after work. He works a late shift, so he gets in just after midnight to find his wife shot dead. He immediately tries to figure out who else is.
00:00:50
Speaker 3: In the house.
00:00:50
Speaker 2: He finds his 13-year-old son, who is alive and well, and who is missing today. their 22-year-old son who had been living with them, Ryan Hannafin, and his car was gone as well. He calls 911, and a manhunt ensues.
00:01:06
Speaker 1: So I guess they, I mean, they pieced a few things together. It didn't take them long to figure out, right, they couldn't get a hold of the older son. They know he has guns. And the other, I guess, robes, the shocking part of the story that we get into in the storytelling is just that the 13-year-old was home with his dead mother in the kitchen and didn't know it. Yes.
00:01:26
Speaker 2: So this is exceptionally disturbing. So the 13-year-old brother said he saw his mom alive and well at 5 p.m. when he left to go hang out with some friends. So he says goodbye to his mom.
00:01:39
Speaker 3: She's good.
00:01:40
Speaker 2: He comes back home at 9 p.m. and he just goes straight to his room. So typical, a 13-year-old kid. I mean, thank God he didn't need food or a glass of milk or whatever and go into the kitchen because that's where his mom was.
00:01:56
Speaker 3: Can you imagine?
00:01:56
Speaker 2: So he just goes straight to his room. He has no idea his mom is dead in the kitchen.
00:02:02
Speaker 1: You mentioned that now. You don't think sometimes in this mess, little blessings. I'm glad he didn't have to find his mom. I mean, this is all horrible, but that would have been even worse.
00:02:12
Speaker 2: Oh, to have been the one to have discovered her, to have that image, to have that in his head for the rest of his life.
00:02:18
Speaker 3: You're right.
00:02:18
Speaker 2: That is a blessing that he ended up just doing what a lot of 13-year-old kids would do. Like, who cares about mom and dad? I'm just going straight to my room, going straight to my computer and going to bed.
00:02:29
Speaker 3: But it was.
00:02:31
Speaker 2: His father, her husband, Matthew, who made the 911 call. I can't imagine the horror of that discovery. And then to think, to believe that it was even possible that your adult son could have been behind it all.
00:02:46
Speaker 1: But your first thought, I guess, right, Rose, would be, where's everybody else?
00:02:50
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:02:51
Speaker 1: And I assume that he would have thought as well, where are both of our kids? Or, I don't know, Rose, did he immediately think... Who knows what the family dynamics were, and there's not a lot of reporting on that other than how wonderful a woman this woman was. But Rose, to walk into that scene, his first thought had to be, where are my kids?
00:03:12
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
00:03:13
Speaker 2: And they do have, by the way, an older daughter.
00:03:15
Speaker 3: Thankfully, she was away at college.
00:03:18
Speaker 2: But just, again, I'm thinking about just the phone call to her and have to get your head around the idea that, A, your mom has been murdered, and that, B, your brother is is the suspect in the shooting. Now, what we know about this 22 year old kid, Ryan, not a lot. We know that he, um, as you mentioned, legally owned several guns. He had a license actually to carry a firearm. We should point out that was immediately suspended once he was named a person of interest and he was on the lamb. He has no known history of mental health issues that really stood out to me. Oftentimes these cases are rare. But when we do hear about them, I'm thinking of Nick Reiner immediately. There was immediately word and news of documented mental health issues. This kid apparently didn't have any, we know he lived at home with his parents and he had been employed up until six months ago. And so he was living at home. Um, he was actually captured in Vermont. They say that they knew exactly where he was going. So it didn't take long, just a couple of hours. And he was arrested during a traffic stop. They knew what his vehicle looked like. He was pretty easy to find. And he was arrested without incident. We're going to hopefully learn more today. There's an arraignment hearing at 1230 p.m. And right now he's just being held on charges of being a fugitive from justice.
00:04:50
Speaker 1: But they are not looking for anybody else.
00:04:53
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
00:04:55
Speaker 2: They have specifically said that the community can rest assured. Look, initially, for several hours when he was on the run, there were alerts, there were tip lines. Police were telling community members to be on the lookout for but not to engage with this young man because he was considered, yes, armed illegal.
00:05:14
Speaker 3: And dangerous. So there were several hours, schools.
00:05:17
Speaker 2: Everywhere in the area. They were on lockdown. They were concerned about this. Now, I didn't realize this. Redding, Massachusetts. Don't know a lot about this area. This is the first murder in Redding, Massachusetts in more than a decade.
00:05:31
Speaker 3: What a shame.
00:05:32
Speaker 1: And it's a son at this point. No, they're not looking for anybody else. They haven't I'm not sure what language and legal language and why they're using the language, but obviously all signs are pointing to this being their suspect in this case, even though he hasn't been charged as such and formally named as such. But yeah, what a shame. A little community that's, I mean, you don't have murderers in that long a time. You think it's a pretty safe community. And the first one ends up being a son accused of killing his mama.
00:06:02
Speaker 3: It's awful. And the DA, she spoke out about this. This is how she put it. She said, it's shocking. It's tragic.
00:06:08
Speaker 2: It's alleged domestic violence at this point, although not the traditional domestic violence situation we think of. It's a moment of reflection about the presence of guns in a home during an alleged dispute. I thought that was an interesting way that she put it. And look, in terms of a dispute, It's hard to get your head around what they could have been fighting about because.
00:06:32
Speaker 3: You alluded to this earlier.
00:06:33
Speaker 2: Andrea Hannafin, look, a lot of her neighbors and her friends are talking immediately because they wanted to rush to not necessarily her defense, but to describe this woman who they are left in shock by the fact that anyone, let alone her son, would want to kill her. She's been described as Mother Teresa by her friends and neighbors. She was just so loving and giving to an extent that you don't know how she did it and how she had the reserves to give more, but she did. She always found a way. Another neighbor, she always said nice things about her kids. She loved her family.
00:07:09
Speaker 3: She did. And we knew Ryan. He's been at our house. So, I mean, I don't know what happened.
00:07:14
Speaker 2: I mean, literally the neighbors are saying that I have another neighbor who described Ryan as seeing his son cruising around in his little charger. He had motorbikes. What a nice family, just a nice family. The father's nice, worked on his car. This was a family described by everyone who knew them as a wonderful, loving family. So it's hard to imagine what possibly could have led to what this father.
00:07:37
Speaker 3: Walked in on.
00:07:38
Speaker 1: Look, he'll have a defense attorney. He will have a defense of some kind. I don't know if there's some explanation for what happened in that home, but it doesn't, they'll say he was scared, but it doesn't look great that he took off.
00:07:53
Speaker 3: No, he absolutely took off.
00:07:55
Speaker 2: And look, again, just to speak about this family and what we know, something that was interesting, you can see the pictures, obviously they had helicopters. There were There was police crime scene tape all around this home in this very suburban neighborhood. But you could see about a dozen pet carrier cases on the front lawn. And just speaking to who Andrea was, apparently she loved animals. She was a cat. She fostered cats. They said she had at least a dozen cats in the home. So look, now that she's gone. Seriously, who's taking care of all this? So they actually had animal control out there with police. So while police were investigating, you actually had animal control out there trying to make sure these cats were being taken care of because that was like her passion project.
00:08:38
Speaker 3: She was a cat lady.
00:08:40
Speaker 2: She was a loving mother, but she was somebody that just speaks to who she was, you know, just her giving nature, wanting to help cats who didn't have a home.
00:08:47
Speaker 3: It's just unbelievably tragic. And guess what?
00:08:50
Speaker 2: Thankfully, this is incredibly rare. When we come back, we're going to talk about what's called matricide. Yes, when children kill their mothers. It's rare, but it happens. And there are a lot of commonalities between when this happens, how it happens, and who commits these types of crimes.
00:09:12
Speaker 3: This one checks all the boxes. Welcome back everyone.
00:09:25
Speaker 2: To Amy and TJ, a just horrific scene in Massachusetts. 22-year-old Ryan Hannafin is likely to be charged officially later today with the murder of his own mother, 49-year-old Andrea Hannafin. She was the mother of three, found shot to death in her own kitchen, and yes, police believe her son is responsible. There was an hours-long manhunt. They do have him in custody, and he will be at a court hearing later this afternoon.
00:09:56
Speaker 3: But look, this is pretty fascinating.
00:09:58
Speaker 2: Matricide, a count around the world for roughly 0.68%.
00:10:04
Speaker 3: Of all murders. That's how rare this is.
00:10:07
Speaker 2: And here in the United States, it represents similarly less than 1% of all murders. So that's just how rare this type of a crime is. And I don't think this will be that shocking to most people listening. When a child kills a parent, between 85 and 90% of offenders are their sons.
00:10:31
Speaker 3: It's not the daughters, it's the sons.
00:10:34
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I guess we see this a lot when it comes to violent crimes and certainly murders with guns. This is primarily something we see men or sons committing.
00:10:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was.
00:10:47
Speaker 1: I guess I was surprised. I don't know why I automatically felt that the split, which parent gets killed most, why would I think it would lean more so towards the man, the dad being the one killed?
00:11:03
Speaker 3: So it's true.
00:11:03
Speaker 2: It's kind of evenly split, but when a son kills a parent... The mother is in 47% of the cases, the victim, and the father in 53% of the cases.
00:11:14
Speaker 3: So not that big of a difference.
00:11:16
Speaker 1: I thought it would. Why in my head did I think it would be more of a split?
00:11:20
Speaker 3: I would have thought that too. Now, here are the other interesting things.
00:11:22
Speaker 2: Most of these murders are adult sons, yes, and they act alone. Frequently, they live in the same household. They're unemployed, single, and illiterate. economically dependent on the victim. This literally checked every single one of these boxes. This young man apparently had recently become unemployed. He was single and he was living at home because yes, financially he had to. And so they say oftentimes this is about sharing an intense, often hostile, dependent relationship. They say oftentimes with a domineering mother, but there's no indication that this woman had any of those hallmarks. Everyone describes her as just a wonderful giving mother. And look, if you look at the Nick Reiner incident, both of his parents have been described as just being overly generous to this young man. But the distinction with Nick Reiner is that he had a documented history of schizophrenia.
00:12:22
Speaker 3: And that's what the studies show.
00:12:24
Speaker 2: That in cases where, in these rare cases where a son kills a parent, and in this case a mother, a high percentage of those murderers are experiencing a psychiatric disorder and schizophrenia. They actually specifically referenced, but they say it's a factor in nearly 70% of all cases where a son kills a mother. And so look, maybe we'll learn more in court. Maybe we'll learn more as this case progresses, but I just thought it was noticeable and notable that the authorities were very quick to say he had no history of mental illness. The other thing is they say, There's no history of police calls to this home, of any kind of domestic violence issues.
00:13:12
Speaker 1: What the hell happened in that house? Rose, what the hell happened? You described all those things, those characteristics, and I don't know if you can come up with them off the top of your head, but we covered a couple of familicides recently. There was one happening at dinner, but it was a couple of sons who were living at the house, and they ended up killing mom and wiping everybody out It's the exact thing. We just had this in recent months. Yes.
00:13:39
Speaker 2: And so you start to look at the signs, but it really is hard to distinguish.
00:13:44
Speaker 3: I don't know.
00:13:45
Speaker 2: I would think a parent would know their child more than anyone else. And yet, look, you know the Reiners kept Nick Reiner on their property. He wasn't living in their house, but he was living on their property. And so, look, it's just one of those kindness is rewarded or even the generosity of these parents to To keep them close, to financially support them, and then to have this be the result is just awful and certainly something that we need to learn from and about. Maybe the father, maybe the siblings will provide some sort of perspective, but from the neighbors, I know you don't ever know what's actually going on inside someone else's home. But the neighbors described seeing all of the family members out and about and knew them.
00:14:25
Speaker 3: They were a part of this small community of Redding, Massachusetts.
00:14:28
Speaker 2: So you know they all are looking for answers today and perhaps this afternoon and in the days and weeks to come we'll get some of those answers. But just wanted to put this on your radar, this tragedy in Massachusetts. We always appreciate you listening to us, everyone.
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Speaker 3: I'm Amy Robach. Alongside TJ Holmes, we'll talk to you soon.