May 14, 2026
Sarah Jessica Parker reveals quintessential Carrie fashions and a breakup adlib that stayed in!
Kristin and Sarah Jessica Parker continue to reminisce and as a result we learn new details about Carrie and Aiden’s breakup in Season four. A visit with SJP would not be complete if we didn’t extensively talk about the fashion!
We get the bts details about the fall in that lake with Big and why practice makes perfect!
Plus, how Sarah Jessica Parker lost her voice screaming in Sex and the Country.
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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte?
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Speaker 2: Everybody? Hi, welcome back, Sarah, Jessica is still with us. Here we go. We're just going to jump right back in all the things that you have done. Did you ever see that coming?
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Speaker 3: No, I don't think any of us.
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's that experience is and I think other people have these kinds of experiences that have not been a replication of They're not an imagining that you have because they didn't exist. Parts of it exist, like, for instance, people knowing who you are or you know, being a public figure. Those are those are things you can imagine or try to imagine, like what is that like and how does that.
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Speaker 3: Affect a life?
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Speaker 4: But because the show was so unusual, because New York City was so unusual inside the show, because there were all these women on the show, because fashion was in the show, because bags were in the show, because shoes were in the show, because it was it was shooting New York in ways that even inside cinema hadn't ever been shot that way. I mean, the closest I can kind of see in a way is an unmarried woman in terms of like a city being colorful and kind of you know, culture letting itself be known, and the streets looking a kind of aspirational, very different than a lot of other seventies cinema, which was hard and the city was a wreck, and a lot of people in cinema in New York City were confronting these kind of challenges that politics and time and economy were dictating. So I couldn't have imagined it because because it didn't exist. And I think, as you and I discussed in the past, if not on your podcast, then in person, I never wanted to be famous.
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Speaker 3: I never. I didn't not want to be famous. I never.
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Speaker 4: It didn't occur to me to be thinking about it because it wasn't part of it had nothing to do with why you wanted to be an actor. And fame was, you know, Paul Newman, Meryl Streep, Meryl Streep, Dustin Hoffman, Jodie Foster, Robert Redford, Barbara Streisend, Cecily Tyson, big figures in the movies and television was a different thing. And I and then there was theater, and I just wanted to work, Like I was like, how can I be a working actor?
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Speaker 3: Will that ever really happen.
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Speaker 4: Well, I will come a point in my life where I go to chemical bank and I'm not panicked about how much money I'm withdrawing on a weekly basis, Like I would give myself forty dollars to last me for the week. Putting out of that machine was like, girl, you're crazy out.
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Speaker 3: So we couldn't.
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Speaker 4: I don't think any of us could imagine it because it didn't really exist. There were elements you could pull together, but it wasn't. There was not an organism, no that we could look to.
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Speaker 1: Right. Also, it was not a requirement back then. I think that's important to say because I think now it seems like it is. I don't know if it really is, but it seems like it is. But it wasn't in our horizon as we must be famous to be able to work.
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Speaker 2: That didn't go together.
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Speaker 4: That like the privilege of And I really mean this, And there are lots of actress today who feel the same way.
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Speaker 3: They just simply want to work.
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Speaker 4: They want to do good work, they want to work with good actors, but they're happy to work on things that aren't great in order to just get a career established as pay the bills and learn.
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Speaker 1: And this is very important now because the middle class of actors is hurting badly and badly.
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Speaker 4: So sad the Journeyman, which I was a proud member of, and I feel like you felt like that ges like that that's been seriously compromised and will be more so with this merger. Like it's it's pretty, it's actually devastating, and it doesn't just affect the Journeymen, many of whom were telling their stories, but it's also the journeymen here, makeup people, crew members, like the collateral damages, the caterers, everything like it goes to you know, people that clean costumes, people that.
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Speaker 2: Everything build costumes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so dressers.
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Speaker 4: That was really a lucky time I think to be an actor, yes, post being a contract player in Hollywood, like it was a middle period where it was post studio ownership, right and pre streaming where you're not doing that many episodes. Six' eight order is a perfectly, fine, reasonable big. Deal you're happy to have, it BUT i think it's going to be like a very there will be a reckoning about who we are soon and BEING i think a merger was JUST i think the border proved it like two hours.
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Speaker 2: Ago.
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Speaker 1: No, yeah Well i'm going to get out a different picture THAN i was going to show you BECAUSE.
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Speaker 2: I have so many so Many, oh.
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Speaker 3: We're going on The Warner.
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Speaker 4: Brothers oh isn't? It is that lot going to be there?
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Speaker 3: Still what will it be?
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Speaker 1: Called, OKAY i don't, know but, listen there's going to be a riot In Los angeles if anyone does anything to that, lot because that is one of the main things that is being discussed at this point, point and it.
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Speaker 2: Is that is a priceless.
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Speaker 1: Jewel no one can change, anything not that.
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Speaker 2: LOT i feel very.
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Speaker 1: Strongly and WHEN i watched this particular, episode which is when we.
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Speaker 3: Go To la as you're screen, grab, YES i was, LIKE i never remember actually seeing because.
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Speaker 1: You drive onto the lot to meet mcconaugheys.
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Speaker 3: And you're in that. Car, yeah The mustang THAT i almost.
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Speaker 1: Exactly the Terrifying mustang THAT i was just on sweets the other day AND i was, like this is the.
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Speaker 4: BLOCK i can't even drive on sweets. ANYMORE i, KNOW i literally won't drive up. THAT i KNOW i hadnt even with an automatic. TRANSMISSION i JUST i KNOW i have an anxiety attack as well When i'm on, It and do you remember THAT i was not in that, scene BUT i, came, yes.
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Speaker 3: BECAUSE i was, like, wait what's?
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Speaker 2: Happening is everyone?
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Speaker 4: Okay because you were in the rodeo scene right afterwards that, DAY i THINK.
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Speaker 1: I come AND i go right like dipping, in dipping out The, NO i an't stay with that.
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Speaker 3: EITHER i WAS i in.
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Speaker 2: THAT i think you watched you watch her being her bold old self right. Right it's a great. Episode it's so much. Fun AND i had what season is? That that is season Three?
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Speaker 3: California, yes, WOW.
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Speaker 1: I just also WHAT i parked down off sweetsir and THEN i walked by the Old, standard which they're redoing into something.
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Speaker 2: Decent. Wow it's a lot of. Change, wow it's kind of.
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Speaker 1: Terrifying BUT i LOVE i love THE la, episodes of course BECAUSE i LOVE la as well as you. Know but seeing us there is so highly highly entertaining and Seeing carrie experiencing the industry, stuff it's so good and, funny and it's almost like when we first start really trying different, things, right like we're going to go outside our comfort. Zone but early on we also have this other very trippy thing THAT i THINK i texted you about SOMETIMES i have these moments Where i'm, Like i've got to text her she knows, this and it's always very last.
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Speaker 2: Minute but this is in the first.
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Speaker 1: SEASON i believe this is when you're levitating On Fifth, avenue which we're very confused. About, yeah and you said you thought you remember them building a platform and.
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Speaker 3: You're wearing this that season. One, yeah it's not the.
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Speaker 2: Pilot, no not the, pilot not the.
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Speaker 1: Pilot isn't it trippy that like you're walking Down Fifth avenue at night and you.
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Speaker 2: Levitates who's? That that is a? Guy it's a handsome.
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Speaker 3: GUY i think it's the guy who.
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Speaker 1: Leaves you money in the morning and you have to if you're a prostitute or.
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Speaker 4: Not, yes, yeah, yeah you know WHAT i do think they built a platform.
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Speaker 1: And that's what they how like you're, Up you're just up and they blew some wind a you were somebody.
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Speaker 3: There is there narration over? This? Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah my guess is, yes they either put a fan on me or somebody had big. Cards they were just going like, this, Honestly, yeah, yeah, yeah and.
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Speaker 3: Uh, yeah isn't that?
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Speaker 4: Amazing and IF i watched, IT i would be able to tell you exactly what, happened but because.
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Speaker 1: You want to ever watch, it like what's your really gut feeling on?
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Speaker 4: IT i JUST i THINK i think it's too complicated for. ME i THINK i can't just.
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Speaker 3: ENJOY i THINK i.
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Speaker 4: Can't the thing, IS I i don't have ANY i never think, Back OH i wish we had enjoyed. It so it's not THAT i Can it's not THAT i have fears, About, oh look how wonderful that. Was why DIDN'T i enjoy? It or why DIDN'T i experience what it was to be doing all these, scenes you, know whether they worked or, not or it's it's so hard to describe WHY i.
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Speaker 3: It MAKES i don't know. THAT i don't.
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Speaker 4: KNOW i don't want to go. BACK i JUST i want it to stay. Here and if there's things THAT i WISH i had done, BETTER i can't touch. IT i can't fix, IT i can't.
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Speaker 2: Remedy that's definitely.
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Speaker 4: True AND i Think i've functioned best typically And i'm a super sentimental, person so this just seems anathema to What i'm. Describing But i'm better in certain circumstances moving forward with like, this like abundance of kind of the kind of FEELINGS i have about it that are almost hard to, Articulate Like i've GOT i loved it so. Much MAYBE i just don't want to touch it or.
00:10:43
Speaker 3: SOMETHING i loved.
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Speaker 4: IT i loved it even at its most difficult, moments even the times that it surprised me in its challenge right personal, Professional But i'm thrilled that people love to read watch. IT i couldn't be more grateful or astounded THAT i get to be a part of this particular kind of history with an, Audience, yes and, personally just that we can talk about the things we ate or couldn't, eat or you, know doing a scene and hearing somebody's hip, crack or like all the, funny weird stuff that we, have like bundled and found storage for and piled in more the next season and found more storage in our unit that was full.
00:11:37
Speaker 3: Already, Know, yes.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely so absolutely.
00:11:40
Speaker 1: TRUE i mean for, ME i, think previous to doing the, PODCAST i felt exactly how you, felt like it was alive in me in my own, way, right like we have our own, experiences.
00:11:49
Speaker 2: Yeah which are different than the. Audience's.
00:11:52
Speaker 1: Yeah the joy That i'm getting NOW i think partly because ORIGINALLY i had so much, anxiety AND i would watch it about, myself not about, you.
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Speaker 3: Guys, KNOW i hear you talk about, that and what do you?
00:12:04
Speaker 4: THINK i just WISH i WISH i had known more about the things that that were consuming, you LIKE i WISH. I i, mean you were pretty good at saying the most obvious when you needed help or comfort or someone to say, no that's of, course that's not. Real of course you didn't do it that. Way of course you don't look like that in this. Skirt of course.
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Speaker 3: That that AND i remember that to hear you.
00:12:39
Speaker 4: Articulate all the ways in which you were kind of haunted daily by this sense of AM i yet?
00:12:49
Speaker 3: Permanent? Here AM? I?
00:12:51
Speaker 4: AM?
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Speaker 3: I AM i? Staying is this? Mine DO i get to be A New?
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Speaker 4: Yorker i'm not sure that you even knew at that time what it was that, was you, know in a kind of, illness like what was the? Bacteria like, Look, GOD i don't know that you could have said at that.
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Speaker 2: TIME i don't THINK i could.
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Speaker 4: Have, WELL i had this contract, thing and this thing, happened and it will take me forever to feel. Secure and, therefore anything that feels That i'm scared of or uncertain of Or i'm not sure it was good or was it the third take or the seventh or this person like all of that is going to be informed by you not feeling for sure that you're wanted in a, place even though you're seeing examples of. You, yes it doesn't. Matter it took a long. Time it took a long time.
00:13:45
Speaker 3: For you to. Feel, Yes.
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Speaker 4: BUT i didn't know, that and you would not have said it at the time that you wouldn't have said it that radically, well BECAUSE i, didn't And i'm not sure you even putting it, together have wanted to burden, you, right you know you had enough well you, know or or probably burdened. Anybody, Yeah, NO i. DIDN'T i mean you probably didn't even.
00:14:08
Speaker 3: Tell dave or did You dave, knew but were you able to really?
00:14:13
Speaker 4: Say but when this, happened it took me this many months to actually believe.
00:14:18
Speaker 2: Or now, RIGHT i didn't have that. AWARENESS i did not have that. Awareness AND i would go.
00:14:23
Speaker 1: So far as to say that even the contractual part of, it right also just tapped into a bigger personal thing THAT i had previous two us ever coming together, right, Right And Michael patrick said something so interesting to. ME i guess last time he came, on or maybe it was in, Life i'm not sure. Where he said something about how like my growth as an actress over, time which obviously we've had this incredible time, together AND i do feel Like i've been like a loud and, cultivated you, know to grow into myself in such a profound and in credible, way you, know by, you by, him.
00:15:03
Speaker 3: By all your, talent so the more you have to, do.
00:15:07
Speaker 1: Yes but definitely by people having the faith in, me you, know that has helped. Me. Right but he says something about how in the beginning that like if we were.
00:15:17
Speaker 2: Going to take and there was, noise THAT i would be out.
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Speaker 1: One and then he said he was so proud when we went back to and just like that that wasn't true. Anymore AND i was, like what that is really. Bizarre but that had to do with my nervous. System of course it, did, yes it did not like it was affected by, us but it was a previously existing.
00:15:37
Speaker 4: Situation but that's how all of us behave as. Humans is the thing that rattled us comes with us until we can prove that thing that rattled us inferior to what we we.
00:15:50
Speaker 3: Know we can do or or be the boss of.
00:15:55
Speaker 2: Yeah or like.
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Speaker 1: Like for, me it felt like you guys having faith in me was like a daily kind of a bomb to my hyper vigilant and fight or flight type nervous system THAT i walked in, with, right that was then stimulated by them, saying, oh by the, way we're going to demote.
00:16:12
Speaker 3: You you know WHAT i?
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Speaker 2: Mean, OH i, know.
00:16:14
Speaker 1: Right obviously it was not exactly like fantastic for, me but it was what it, was AND i still had the faith in me THAT i meant was meant to be. There it's just that the faith was little and the anxiety was, big, Right and then there were other, things as you, know the nineties very hard on.
00:16:40
Speaker 3: All the women and definitely aren't on the.
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Speaker 2: Actresses it was not.
00:16:43
Speaker 1: Easy and people are talking about that, now WHICH i really, enjoy, right and please talk about, that because it's not like it's.
00:16:49
Speaker 4: Gone no, no, no, no it's just it's very, different but it's definitely not.
00:16:53
Speaker 2: Gone it's not.
00:16:53
Speaker 1: Gone SO i think the belief that you all had in me, CONTRIBUTED I Mike craig really, sorry contributed to the slow healing THAT i, needed you, Know and that's the.
00:17:06
Speaker 4: Joy i'm not sure you were probably even aware of that kind of accumulation of a kind of courage you, needed.
00:17:18
Speaker 3: BUT i would.
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Speaker 4: REMEMBER i remember if if somebody, moved like if you're if they, were you, know over my shoulder to you and Behind Joe collins or whomever at that, Point john MacDonald or whoever was pulling. Focus if a bunch of people, moved or one or two, did it was. Start it was like your eye was like hyper. Vigilant AND I I i understood. THAT i knew that that was your your nervous, system and never bothered me BECAUSE i just wanted you to feel, okay you, know AND i knew that as you. Do, yeah but knowing in the practice are so hard.
00:18:03
Speaker 2: TILL i felt, It like when he said that that surprised. ME i didn't even know that people, notice do you know What i'm. Saying it's all so interesting in so many.
00:18:10
Speaker 1: Layers and that's also just the joy of getting to be together for all of the, long many many.
00:18:15
Speaker 4: Years you all know each other's things and when to step in and when to help and the ways in which to distract and, yes.
00:18:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes and it's just joyful. Joyful i'm going to go back to some pictures.
00:18:29
Speaker 1: Because these are things where, like as we've been going along the, Thing i'm, like.
00:18:33
Speaker 2: Oh what would she say about? This?
00:18:35
Speaker 1: Right uh huh, Okay so let's talk about some. Outfits this outfit is when we're in The. Hamptons this is the first time That carrie Sees natasha And big together and you are wearing a cowboy hat and a tube top and a very low slung stripey.
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Speaker 3: Skirt. YEAH i love that.
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Speaker 1: Outfit everyone loves this tit that was a fit not walk out right now and.
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Speaker 3: Be like not on, me but somebody.
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Speaker 4: ELSE i think it was probably just At. Coachella, yeah that was a bra from a bra. Company it was the one bra that wasn't just a plain nude. Bra it was A straples spraw That pat And molly had found AND i was, like, OH i could just do. That it had like a animal print on.
00:19:23
Speaker 3: IT i.
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Speaker 4: Think, yeah that was a nothing, hat you, know a two dollars, hat. Crossbody. YEAH i remember all of it extremely. Well remember the the, arm the bracelet around my you, know, YES i do my, Arms AND i think one of the REASONS i remember that outfit was that it was such an important, episode and we spent so many days in those.
00:19:46
Speaker 2: Outfits so. Good it was so good in that.
00:19:49
Speaker 1: OUTFIT i, Mean i'm in that. Episode they're in the same but look at another arm.
00:19:53
Speaker 4: Man, yes Mister dayla rent have built that dress for. ME i understood, later AND i didn't at the time that people didn't like it or they criticized.
00:20:03
Speaker 3: IT i. Guess.
00:20:03
Speaker 4: So, Yeah WELL i, was you, know on the list of like the worst or less cared for emmy.
00:20:10
Speaker 3: Dresser are you?
00:20:10
Speaker 2: KIDDING i.
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Speaker 4: DIDN'T i literally didn't care because it was Mister Dayla, renta And i'm sure that was my. IDEA i love it so. Much is it had a little dress tail on that?
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Speaker 3: Flower is?
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Speaker 2: It does it have the year at the top that you?
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Speaker 3: Didn't, no it, doesn't oh, no two, thousand two.
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Speaker 2: Thousand. Yeah but we had a fantastic.
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Speaker 4: Time we had a, great great. Time we were staying at The. Peninsula, Yeah Laura mercier did my. Makeup SARAH. G normant did my. Hair those earrings were borrowed From Fred. Layton Mister dala Rent to built the. Dress i'm SURE i was Wearing Manolo's and the thing about that, night and there's my, Husband. Matthew so handsome was that when we came back to The Peninsula, hotel we were all hanging out in the, bar that dark, dark that dark, bar and somebody AND i Remember Michael patrick AND i were sitting in. Front we were waiting for everybody, else and someone complimented my. Makeup And laura had told me BEFORE i left my hotel, room she, said twenty four hour guarantee about my. Makeup and it WAS i don't know how many hours.
00:21:12
Speaker 2: Later you, KNOW i mean so many hours.
00:21:15
Speaker 4: And waiting for the car and getting back to the ho tat from wherever it.
00:21:18
Speaker 3: Was, Yeah AND.
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Speaker 4: I remember, Thinking, god she's right for our. Guarantee. Amazing AND i Remember Emily, mattson my best friend, daughter was at the hotel that day WHILE i was getting. Ready she was always at the hotel and she was so. LITTLE i have a picture with me and With emily that, day who was just a tiny little.
00:21:38
Speaker 1: Toddler, yeah, Okay and here is a really fun. Memory this is the dress that she wore to The Golden globes in two thousand and.
00:21:46
Speaker 4: Two oh, CORPET i love him so. MUCH i can't wait for him to do your Podcast.
00:21:54
Speaker 2: From Your lips To God's.
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Speaker 3: THERE i love. HIM i love that dress Is.
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Speaker 4: Chanel i'm not even sure that dress Is, chanelle and it's actually not a.
00:22:03
Speaker 3: DRESS i think.
00:22:04
Speaker 4: It's Pan pan maybe, right we're In chanelle. Bow That's lorenz for.
00:22:11
Speaker 2: Sure So loren has, Entered.
00:22:14
Speaker 4: Yes and, YEAH i love. That it was really easy to. Wear my guess IS i can't remember how long my hair was When James welki was. Born this, is, oh two thousand and, two so it's that's the. Haircut is that right After? James was it two thousand and? Two it would, be, oh this is The Golden, Globe so this is the top of the.
00:22:33
Speaker 3: Year this is like a month or so BEFORE i was. Pregnant you know WHAT.
00:22:35
Speaker 2: I think this. IS i think this is the.
00:22:37
Speaker 1: Time do you remember When Katie couric would come and interview people for her show some?
00:22:42
Speaker 2: Show, No, well so we ALL i THINK i think that.
00:22:49
Speaker 1: Maybe we didn't win as a, show but we had one the year, before okay, maybe and we all got together to go backstage And Katie krek sits down and we Love katie, Right, yeah.
00:22:59
Speaker 2: She's like a friend of the. Show you know WHAT i, mean and we sit down and we're all.
00:23:02
Speaker 1: Bubbly and it's exciting and we're going to talk to her and she puts on the hard news space and she, says what about all the controversy and people not liking the?
00:23:10
Speaker 2: Show and we were, like, exactly.
00:23:14
Speaker 4: Because look it says HERE i won, exactly AND i think we said.
00:23:18
Speaker 3: Exactly oh that's.
00:23:20
Speaker 1: So, FUNNY i, know, right this is you holding your emmy oh two thousand and, four.
00:23:25
Speaker 3: Two thousand and.
00:23:26
Speaker 1: Four, Yes AND i remember that you And matthew sat next to me and we have a, funny funny picture of you and me leaning over him and he just looks, like.
00:23:32
Speaker 2: Oh my, God i'm come and we're just like, no, no, no no.
00:23:36
Speaker 3: Wow they finally had to give it to, me.
00:23:42
Speaker 1: And it was it was overdue and, well but WHEN i know WHEN i look at season three and season, four and this is, why just, SELFISHLY i hope at some point in your, long long life that's. Coming because the, thing this is the main THING i want to say to, you AND i think it's the important, thing is that we already have this in, ourselves. Right we have our memories as you're talking, about, right and our memories are separate from the finished. Show, right there are, memories, right they're priceless and you, know.
00:24:09
Speaker 2: Treasured, yeah and we have.
00:24:11
Speaker 1: That AND i felt this week BEFORE i was, rewatching, right, LIKE i have WHAT i have AND i have WHAT i, need AND i love the people come up and talk to, me BUT i don't necessarily.
00:24:21
Speaker 2: Share like sometimes they'll say to, ME i don't remember.
00:24:24
Speaker 3: That, yeah you know WHAT i. Mean but that's, okay that's.
00:24:26
Speaker 1: Fine it's incredible that they remember, anything, Right, Yeah but What i've gotten As i've been rewatching a few, things of. Course number, one absolutely floored by how good it. Is and, yes it's all over the place, sometimes but it's all.
00:24:41
Speaker 3: Good it's.
00:24:43
Speaker 2: Funny you fall, DOWN i, mean you fall in the.
00:24:46
Speaker 1: MUD i MEAN i show you, pictures you know WHAT i, Mean like in end you're loving you, DOWN i know when you're so fantastic at, it and.
00:24:52
Speaker 2: We could watch.
00:24:52
Speaker 1: It they make you fall in the mud over and over, again just because it's fun to.
00:24:56
Speaker 2: Watch do you remember, THIS i do remember that's in the.
00:24:59
Speaker 3: Country, yes remember. THAT i remember we were look at you in the. Mud, yes, YES i MEAN i fell plenty in the. Mud you felt a, Lot, YEAH i was super happy to do that and it was no, problem.
00:25:10
Speaker 1: So, great and you And john going up there to wherever they have. Suffering BUT i don't know if you, were you, know we.
00:25:16
Speaker 4: Were IN i think we were somewhere In New. Jersey but it was really fun and we had crew dinners AND i LOVED i.
00:25:27
Speaker 3: Love being on location with our crew so. MUCH i JUST i loved. It me, too me.
00:25:32
Speaker 1: TOO i didn't get to go as often as. You but remember when we went to whatever stood in for The, hamptons a couple.
00:25:37
Speaker 3: Of, paces, no, no no. Plan that was. Different, sorry we were not in The.
00:25:42
Speaker 4: Hamptons we were we were we were rock, Away yeah we.
00:25:46
Speaker 3: Were we were west of that.
00:25:50
Speaker 1: Far, yeah we couldn't afford you were, there, Right but it was always really. Fun and then remember there was the wedding Of julie's character where we also worked all night and we're wearing like fantastic outfits and you're Pregnant julie's Character Julie julie, sorry, sorry you were the writer had a character where she on the, show AND i just don't remember that.
00:26:10
Speaker 3: Too, YES i was super. Pregnant it was our last.
00:26:13
Speaker 4: Episode, yes because that was the last TIME i had to cover my pregnancy AND i was wearing A David darlrymple pink sort of bubble, yes.
00:26:23
Speaker 3: Yes and my hair WAS i remember my hair was sort Of beldo. Joure. Yes. Yeah and she Married Nathan. Lane.
00:26:31
Speaker 4: Yes And cynthia was super pregnant too when we Were there's a picture of Us i've seen frequently AND i don't know, why but there's a picture of us from that. Wedding she looked so pretty at that. Wedding, yeah you both love, THAT i mean me. Too, yeah and we were one of raw because.
00:26:52
Speaker 3: It was all built in because he does.
00:26:54
Speaker 1: That, yeah, yeah, yeah, Amazing, yes totally all, RIGHT i have some mother just. Yeah so this is also From sex and The. Country, now oh, wow, YEAH i remember all. That do you remember that you Leave aiden in The, country you take the train back To New york and you have dinner With big and you wear that green?
00:27:13
Speaker 4: Serious, YES i KNOW i felt the same. Way was that one of the criticisms coming FROM i think that that is a J cruise shirt that was my, own, wow THAT i brought, In and, that of course is A Vivian westwood skirt from century twenty. One, yep, yep that's a thrift store.
00:27:34
Speaker 2: Top love it so.
00:27:35
Speaker 3: Much AND i can't remember what the bottoms.
00:27:36
Speaker 2: WERE i think they were like little jean shorts or. Something this is when you're gonna make the. Pie and it's also when you school. It make a, Pie, yes you make a whole pie.
00:27:45
Speaker 1: Crust but then he makes you drop it and you burn your, legs and that's when you finally admit that you hate the.
00:27:50
Speaker 2: Country it's really.
00:27:52
Speaker 1: Good and then he really feels like you don't love him because you.
00:27:56
Speaker 3: Don't of course she loves, him of, course but he.
00:27:59
Speaker 4: Doesn't ye do IF i, don't IF i don't love the country, enough IF i can't, adapt IF i can't get burned and and find some, ointment, yes then it's it's it's her, problem, right it's not the. Problem it's not the country's, problem.
00:28:17
Speaker 1: Definitely but ALSO i think for, him he has identified himself as this. House, yes, yes, Right and he's, like she doesn't see, me she doesn't get. Me that's what he's, playing, right because he's so. Good, yes but so do you remember when you lost your voice squealing at the?
00:28:31
Speaker 2: Squirrel?
00:28:34
Speaker 3: YEAH i have a vague recollection of. That it was very.
00:28:36
Speaker 4: Rare, yes and then we had to shoot the next day and you were so st you didn't.
00:28:42
Speaker 2: Have a you could not speak.
00:28:45
Speaker 4: EXACTLY i remember shooting this late at night because this was probably on the back end of A i bet we were on splits.
00:28:54
Speaker 3: Almost.
00:28:54
Speaker 4: Yep this was sort of like after a bunch of day. Scenes this was probably this was like the last scene of the night with this, skirt.
00:29:03
Speaker 2: And you very creatively twirl DO i you?
00:29:06
Speaker 4: Do Because i'm SURE i just wanted to show off the back end you. Beautifully it, works not my back, end but the skirts back UND i, know it was.
00:29:16
Speaker 3: Special it was.
00:29:17
Speaker 2: Great, okay, WAIT i have another big Dying.
00:29:32
Speaker 3: Oh, YEAH i love that outfits so, much so.
00:29:35
Speaker 2: MUCH i love it so, much.
00:29:36
Speaker 1: Guys this is the ONE i Asked molly. About molly last so hard and called it all kinds of crazy names and said she thought you were trying to break the. Rules it's the lavender hose that are pulled up over her, shorts and she also was.
00:29:47
Speaker 2: Wearing like basically A Victoria's secret. Bra from WHAT i can, do wonder. Bra it's a, Wonderfral it's a.
00:29:52
Speaker 4: Wonderbral it's a kind of heliotrope colored Wonderbra And i'm sure it was my idea to put those tights on and yank them, up because that's how you.
00:30:02
Speaker 3: ARE i, mean that's actually how you are at. Home, yeah that's the.
00:30:06
Speaker 4: Truth and at this, point at this, point you know you can do things like, this like if you if you're trying to say something about somebody and you've kind of found your footing and you've articulated with images and her, words then why not do something like this for a. SCENE i think she's running to try to get her laundry. Closed it's it's perfect to run in, that, yes It's AND i love this AND i think that's probably like IF i had to pick one of three looks that said who Is?
00:30:45
Speaker 3: Carrie this would be one of them in a.
00:30:47
Speaker 4: Way because you're inside her apartment and she's walking around her apartment like.
00:30:52
Speaker 3: That, yes so that feels very real to. Me you don't have to show them to.
00:30:57
Speaker 2: Me this.
00:30:57
Speaker 4: ONE i didn't like that as much as everybody. Else i'll tell you why this was the. Crochete, Yeah i'll tell you why didn't part of. ME i love the hat AND i love the, coat AND i like how it looks. Still but the problem with this is that it was a Cotton it's not it's not THAT i didn't like what it. Was it's just it's very hard to fit something like that because it's it, moves it's a. Cut, yes it's a it's a cotton, thread so it's all, natural so it's not holding a it's a holding a. Shape so it was very hard to tailor it. With we try to give you a waste. With it's not terribly thick yarn or, string but it's just Not it doesn't have any unnatural fiber in, it so it.
00:31:46
Speaker 3: Can't it was a long. Day it. Worked we were, going we were we were In Madison's Madison Square.
00:31:53
Speaker 4: Park we were in The Bryant, park, yes, Yes and it was unpleasantly cold.
00:31:57
Speaker 3: Day it's a false spring.
00:31:59
Speaker 4: Day, yes it looks like one of those days that there was wind and you're a little bit in the shadows because of the buildings and the way the sun's. Moving was that the same day that we Did heidi in the same.
00:32:12
Speaker 2: Park, NO i Think heide Was Bryant.
00:32:14
Speaker 3: Park it Was Briant park, though, yeah same, park.
00:32:17
Speaker 2: Right, YES i same, Park, YES i think. So so what do you think Of?
00:32:22
Speaker 1: Heidi?
00:32:22
Speaker 4: OH i Love, HIDE i would always love HE i Love heidi. TOO i love that asked them to put yes. Bles you were so ahead of your.
00:32:32
Speaker 1: Time so all the little girls on TikTok do this all the right.
00:32:36
Speaker 2: Time, Yes oh my, god there's products you can can buy now on the.
00:32:39
Speaker 3: Stove, Yes jemma wants.
00:32:42
Speaker 2: Them are they?
00:32:44
Speaker 3: Unsafe, No i'm just like they're just a Frivolous.
00:32:47
Speaker 2: Yes i'm just, like, okay.
00:32:48
Speaker 1: Okay so here is another incredible. Look it's in the EPISODE A change Of. Address you're doing a walking talk With miranda and you're wearing the light pink top palm tree, skirt and then you have put a green belt around your, stomach but it is not attached to the skirt or the.
00:33:05
Speaker 4: TOP i remember that we were. WALKING i think up walking on The upper West. SIDE i, think, yes it's a good back. Talk, Yeah AND i was, like, Yeah i'll put the belt.
00:33:13
Speaker 3: There Really?
00:33:14
Speaker 1: Yeah did it come like down on the skirt and you just took.
00:33:18
Speaker 3: It off the?
00:33:19
Speaker 4: Skirt it's the, same it is, right it's not it's Not it's not a matching belt at.
00:33:25
Speaker 1: All.
00:33:25
Speaker 2: Wow what episode does it say at The, Top.
00:33:27
Speaker 3: Season, four episode.
00:33:29
Speaker 4: Fifteen, yeah people had a lot of feelings about that.
00:33:33
Speaker 2: BELT i love it so, much AND i loved.
00:33:35
Speaker 3: IT i was, like why? Not, YEAH i don't.
00:33:38
Speaker 4: Know when you're working With pat And molly at this, point it's, like all's.
00:33:42
Speaker 3: Fair, Yeah i'll try. Everything and.
00:33:48
Speaker 4: So many times people ask me in, interviews you, know do you regret LIKE i regret none of?
00:33:52
Speaker 3: It, yeah, grectly as you, know regret.
00:33:55
Speaker 1: Definitely so, wait what are the other two outfits if we had to pick three For? CARRIE i have an answer prepared to Be, okay, WAIT i have some. Ideas, okay, personally love beyond.
00:34:05
Speaker 3: BELIEF i don't think that's really. Carried.
00:34:07
Speaker 1: OKAY i just love this white dress From change Of. Address it's the final scene Where carrie And aiden break up in front of the fountain At Columbus.
00:34:15
Speaker 2: CIRCLE i, MEAN i.
00:34:16
Speaker 4: Just love a beautiful. Dress and that dress Is Mishka, yeah which is really it's it's an it's.
00:34:26
Speaker 3: Like trying something, on but it. DOESN'T i think it's really Essentially, Yeah AND i love that scene so.
00:34:34
Speaker 4: Much and WHAT i love about that, scene first of, all once again Is John corbett's, acting WHICH i just think is just, sublime and that's WHY i wish you would do your.
00:34:44
Speaker 3: Podcast but right now it's the same earrings From Fred.
00:34:48
Speaker 4: Layton but WHAT i really love about this scene is that we were shooting it and shooting. IT i don't know if you've heard this, story and they're over the shoulder at me on my side when we Are i'm on a apple.
00:35:00
Speaker 3: Box that's always because he's so.
00:35:01
Speaker 4: Tall and AND i felt LIKE i wasn't getting the scene, Right LIKE i just wasn't getting it, right And michael was far. Away whoever was directing was pretty far Away Alan. TAYLOR i felt, like really messed, up and they didn't. Cut they were far, away they couldn't be there because of the, shots, Right.
00:35:28
Speaker 3: And SO i was just stopping the.
00:35:33
Speaker 4: SCRIPT i was stopping the words as written and just saying and exhortations and, things And michael used all, that.
00:35:46
Speaker 3: Which really suits the. Scene it's so.
00:35:49
Speaker 4: Good, Yes i'm, Like i'm not getting this. Right i'm not doing.
00:35:53
Speaker 2: This you were having the same experience That carrie was. Happening, yeah, Amazing and so.
00:35:57
Speaker 4: That's WHAT i really remember about the, scene as, like, Oh, michael you, crafty so, crafty so.
00:36:02
Speaker 1: Crafty, WAIT i realized THAT i didn't tell you the. End i'm going to show you two other, dresses but, SURE i did not tell you the end of My one of the things That i've realized from rewatching and it's it's kind of, obvious But i'm just going to say it because it's POWERFUL i had for.
00:36:15
Speaker 3: Me it was.
00:36:16
Speaker 1: POWERFUL i had two weeks, OFF i was traveling from the, podcast, right and then it came back AND i had to rewatch a, couple you, know for to guess catch, up AND i had like a physical sensation of warmth WHEN i turned it.
00:36:32
Speaker 2: On oh, Wow AND i, thought this is what everyone.
00:36:37
Speaker 3: Feels oh, wow it was.
00:36:40
Speaker 4: Amazing, yeah like when people try to describe their experience watching it or what it makes them feel, like.
00:36:47
Speaker 1: And it's intangible in a, way, Right like there was a long time WHERE i was, Like, oh it's the, colors is that this is? That that is it's the, pithy it's the you, know the, dialogue and it's all those, things of, course but there's something that we, created AND i think it has to do with the, acceptance with the found family, theme with the lack of judgment that you feel enveloped when.
00:37:11
Speaker 2: You watch, it it's so.
00:37:15
Speaker 1: And it made me, feel of course That i'm with, us, yeah because of COURSE i know, us Which i'm so. Lucky BUT i also feel like what we made is so strong that that's how people, feel which.
00:37:26
Speaker 2: Explains so much about when people come up and hug.
00:37:29
Speaker 1: Us, yeah WHICH i remember when it first started AND i was, like oh my, god what is?
00:37:33
Speaker 2: Happening, RIGHT i, mean.
00:37:34
Speaker 1: It's, beautiful but it's also just like you're in your day and you're not expecting that you, forget you know WHAT i. Mean and it's ALSO i understand it so much more.
00:37:42
Speaker 2: Deeply, yeah AND i think it's. Important it feels.
00:37:47
Speaker 3: Like maybe IF i watch, IT i would. UNDERSTAND i MEAN i try.
00:37:52
Speaker 4: TO i HOPE i communicate THAT i, understand if not for that, reason but for other.
00:37:57
Speaker 3: Reasons but that's very.
00:37:59
Speaker 4: Interesting it was a physical, sensation that's really And i'm basing on.
00:38:04
Speaker 1: A weekly, right So i've been in it and THEN i was away from it AND i went.
00:38:08
Speaker 2: Back AND i was, like oh.
00:38:09
Speaker 3: My, god well that's really nice to.
00:38:12
Speaker 1: Hear it's so good to be a part of, it, Right, Yeah and it's also LIKE i think what we were saying earlier and then just to put a button on it or.
00:38:20
Speaker 2: Whatever like the we had a.
00:38:23
Speaker 1: Bit of almost like, naivete and we were at the right. Time but the fearlessness with which it is all done and every, DEPARTMENT i mean every single department, right like just firing on all, cylinders, right but in terms of the, acting and you may never be able to feel yourself this personally experienced this about. YOURSELF i know it's very hard for me to feel this way about. Myself but WHEN i can watch, YOU i can feel. This it is so, naked like when you have these breakups and these layered Layered you've got, big you've got, Aiden you've got.
00:39:02
Speaker 2: You, know oh we had we had Jazz. Man what's his, Name, Oh Craig.
00:39:06
Speaker 3: Bierka, yeah, yeah so much.
00:39:09
Speaker 1: FUN i, mean you, know you're just so you're so present and layered at all. Times it's, Amazing.
00:39:19
Speaker 2: It's really and you, KNOW i love, you and you, KNOW i think you're.
00:39:22
Speaker 1: Incredible but every Time i'm, like oh my, god like it just is better and, better so nice and deeper and.
00:39:28
Speaker 4: Deeper, well you know that's so nice to. Hear AND i will say that When corbett came back.
00:39:39
Speaker 3: To do in just like.
00:39:40
Speaker 4: That he said he had been. TERRIFIED i don't know if you've shared this with, you but he was, LIKE i think he was afraid of watching you, know the original his, stuff you, know from his entry on and and then he, said you, know he'd been so happy and he, said you you really got to watch it because it's so. Good it's, true you, know AND i was so happy he was feeling because he's also hard on.
00:40:08
Speaker 2: Himself, yeah, yes.
00:40:09
Speaker 4: And he could really appreciate how great he.
00:40:14
Speaker 2: Was i'm so. Glad you, know he really is. Great he is.
00:40:17
Speaker 1: Incredible, okay, wait two other things and Then i'm gonna have to Stop.
00:40:22
Speaker 4: Richard, tyler, yes in the band just and So mollie, says we had.
00:40:26
Speaker 3: Two of, Them that's what she.
00:40:27
Speaker 2: Said AND i just wonder where they. Are do you think one is in your?
00:40:30
Speaker 3: Storage, no they took them.
00:40:32
Speaker 4: Back, yeah that means they took it back Pain but you, know for every dress that.
00:40:37
Speaker 3: A designer rightfully asked for, back we have something. Else of.
00:40:41
Speaker 4: Course so even though it's, incomplete right there are some holes or like some missing, teeth of, course it is it's like a really, good you, know template of. Everything pat And molly. Did, yeah and it seems on the.
00:40:58
Speaker 2: Film, yeah and your phone and the most beautiful and bell ahead were.
00:41:03
Speaker 3: Over and over that.
00:41:04
Speaker 2: Day.
00:41:05
Speaker 4: Yeah so what they did is they had that whole crew had gotten, there you, know a couple hours before. Us And i'll try to tell this story really. Quickly and they had set up as best they could sort of to scale and to, height a meeting to, fall meeting to, fall so that everything could be, done we could be sure of everything in advance of the hopefully one.
00:41:34
Speaker 3: Take so they.
00:41:35
Speaker 4: Had these big pads fall pads like you, know stunt, pads big pillows as you, know, right, yes and they had you, know, uh let's see it be, lower, Right so they had you.
00:41:49
Speaker 3: Know one was here to hear like the doc to the water correct.
00:41:52
Speaker 4: It and we just practiced falling like talking, falling talking, falling talking falling and well, no if you do, that THEN i might not fall this, way but MAYBE i should do.
00:42:03
Speaker 3: That don't hold on to be, there do hold on to be.
00:42:05
Speaker 2: Here.
00:42:05
Speaker 4: WOW i, remember you, know dawn as soon as the light came, up when it was light enough to, rehearse, well if we if you, know if you go in that, way Then i'm going to turn this way away from. It like everything was as close to mimicking real yeshute body, reaction so that when we did AND i don't know if they had three or four cameras that day as my, guests but they had to like be smart about that too because they want it from every, angle so you can't you can't get us quick sighting up a camera and those were bigger cameras, then, Right but it was so much fun AND i did cut myself AND i did have to get a.
00:42:41
Speaker 3: Technics.
00:42:42
Speaker 1: Yeah do you remember. That this is when we had our? Blackberries, yes and he.
00:43:00
Speaker 3: Gave you a? BlackBerry you?
00:43:02
Speaker 1: Did thank?
00:43:05
Speaker 3: You you didn't have a lot of. THEM i thank. You, NO i really want this.
00:43:11
Speaker 1: In my.
00:43:11
Speaker 2: Life you made my. LIFE i mean, also it was just the best time to be on the. Set AND.
00:43:20
Speaker 3: I wish we had all.
00:43:21
Speaker 4: THOSE i, KNOW i don't have to do this TYPE i have. THEM i just don't have the messages.
00:43:26
Speaker 2: Write me neither because they're gone or.
00:43:28
Speaker 3: Whatever.
00:43:29
Speaker 2: YEAH i remember a.
00:43:31
Speaker 4: Bay company called Rim, rim yes out of Like, Waterloo canada or.
00:43:35
Speaker 3: Something, Yes, yes.
00:43:37
Speaker 2: You had the connection, man you were On it's on and on all the things she was on. This, yes, no you had it on your little.
00:43:44
Speaker 3: Belt it was the.
00:43:45
Speaker 4: Hugest because the oar might call it might be called into surgery at any.
00:43:50
Speaker 3: Time, totally.
00:43:52
Speaker 1: Totally so the day of THIS i was not, working BUT i knew you had to do. IT i remember feeling anxiety about, it excitement, also, right it was in the, park so it was near, me AND i remember at some point MAYBE i had to come in, later maybe you just texted, me or maybe it was the next, day but paparazzi had been around and had gotten a picture that they felt, was you, know.
00:44:13
Speaker 2: Revealing oh, really do you remember? This interesting to?
00:44:18
Speaker 1: ME i remember it as being so completely, horrifying and you were, like they don't have, Anything.
00:44:25
Speaker 2: AND i, said are you? SURE i was so panicked for you.
00:44:28
Speaker 1: Today, No oh, okay they did. NOT i think that they wanted. Money oh, Wow but you were, knowledgeable you were on.
00:44:35
Speaker 4: It i'm, saying, YEAH i, mean was it see through WHEN i got? Wet it was somehow it suggested that that you're seeing a lot because of the nature of that.
00:44:46
Speaker 1: Chiffon, yes and then it did get wet and you had nude, color so that they were perceiving that as.
00:44:53
Speaker 2: Skin but you were, like, yeah, NO i was wearing that.
00:44:55
Speaker 3: Song, yeah of COURSE i. WAS i Call sabella, definitely yes and coming right.
00:45:01
Speaker 1: Now changed my, Life, pat and you have forever changed my life in any. Way.
00:45:09
Speaker 4: SABELLA i was, Like i'd never worn anything like that in my. Life i'd only ever worn Like carter's. Underwear no.
00:45:14
Speaker 3: Way and then.
00:45:15
Speaker 4: Eventually Calvin klein when we also didn't line Up bloomingdale's when they came out those, BRAS i was it was the men's brief THAT i was, like well, you, YES i.
00:45:24
Speaker 2: Never could pull that. OFF i.
00:45:25
Speaker 1: Couldn't, NO i could. NOT i could not. SEND i saw you were The cosabella. CONNECTION i did Know pat would put.
00:45:32
Speaker 4: You she said there was a there was a lingerie shop On university BETWEEN i think ninth and tenth on the east side of the street that had beautiful. BRAS i think they Had, marquette oh And. Cosabella they were it's not ge, strings, RIGHT i.
00:45:53
Speaker 1: Think in the beginning mine WAS g, strings maybe because there were somewhere they had just skinny met mesh at the, back but then they went to just a.
00:46:02
Speaker 4: String oh, no, no no, NO i didn't wear, Those oh, no, no, no, no, no, no you gotta draw the.
00:46:06
Speaker 2: LINE i love it that we draw the line.
00:46:09
Speaker 1: Anywhere, okay wait this is my last, one BUT i have to talk about the door for a.
00:46:13
Speaker 3: Second, yeah the dress is. Amazing the.
00:46:16
Speaker 2: Dream now there's this whole drama.
00:46:19
Speaker 1: THAT i did text you, about, yes where it's unclear if there's one dress or two dresses where they, live.
00:46:25
Speaker 4: So they live it dere door has. Them they had it back right. Away we never had the door dress got it so that when we had to borrow it for and just like, that we think it wasn't the same dress, Anyway god that the print might not have been the exact.
00:46:41
Speaker 3: Same, yes but that is one of the dresses that we returned. Immediately WHAT i love about that dress is.
00:46:52
Speaker 4: The way we got to shoot it On Park. AVENUE i think she's Crossing park avenueater is out in culture. Slow how to use that camera that was that long lens and that see that's like the ways in which we you, know could we have imagined? It, no because really nobody, else even Even law And, order which was really, cool like they were showing a city and shooting it like a. Movie for, sure was one camera, cinema but it was very, different very. Different, yeah and a, procedural so they had things they had to, do and those are kind of, rules like it's, like if you're going to make a seven yearl, blog you have to use a grape a certain. Grape but we didn't have any of those. Rules and so all these guys that were using the camera really really, WELL i mean kind Of charles McDougal and just.
00:47:45
Speaker 2: Say Alan, Taylor Allen, Coulter.
00:47:47
Speaker 4: Yeah Alan coulter loved that. Camera love that freaking. Camera and the camera crew became so important in our show like they were. Superstars they were they really were. Revered you, know our sound mixer always revered because the ways in which they had to hide mics ANDJ tj And kim oh, yes.
00:48:09
Speaker 2: Oh the mics and crazy places you.
00:48:11
Speaker 4: Guys, anyway that shot with The dior dress was kind of like you pick a dress for that, reason but we didn't know what the camera could do with. It and when we allowed all that traffic to pass and all the pedestrians and where it was in the, story like what it was doing to support the story is just you, know and the hair was like really wild and the carry, necklace so that it's like it just all was like hand in. Glove, yes, yeah and that's And i'm glad it was that dressed.
00:48:40
Speaker 2: Way oh my, god me.
00:48:42
Speaker 1: Too, yeah that's the joy when you look back and it to. ME i, MEAN i knew intellectually that we were doing something, different AND i KNEW i loved it so much, obviously BUT i didn't understand everything that you just said at the. Time, Right so looking back on it and also like, it it's incredibly, cinematic like in a very different it breaks molds of all, kinds.
00:49:03
Speaker 3: RIGHT i tell.
00:49:04
Speaker 4: You one other quick thing is that there was there used to be in The New York times a supplement that WASN'T i think you'll remember this and a lot Of New york as. Well but it was A tv guy and it was a decent. Size it was big like, this and it was THE tv shows for the, week including YOUR vhs numbers to program in so you could tape a. Show and we were on the cover of THE tv of The New York TIMES tv guide and it was a picture That craig had shot that we've been looking at. Recently and it's kind of an ugly. Dress it's like a mustard ocre colored. Dress she's wearing like A bordeaux colored leather. Jacket she's leaving someplace, where some guy's apartment where she couldn't find her, stuff or she had spent the night. Someplace and, interesting it's not a really pretty she's got like a kind of crocheted. Green none of it is really. Pretty it's a picture That craig.
00:50:02
Speaker 2: Shot who was our, Unit, blankenhorn someone.
00:50:05
Speaker 3: Who's just so, gifted. Brilliant and WHEN i saw that, PICTURE i was so.
00:50:12
Speaker 4: Excited first of, all that The New York times had picked us to be because you know That New York times. Dream but the picture That craig took was from far away and kind of, high SO i think maybe there were a leaf fall, something there's some atmospheric. Thing it's lower fifth the camera pulls way. Back and WHEN i saw, that in my head and in my, HEART.
00:50:37
Speaker 3: I was, like, well that's what we're. Doing, okay that's what we're.
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Speaker 4: Doing interesting because you could kind of feel the, Camera but if you weren't looking at everything all the, time you. Wouldn't you don't know it in the same. Way but that picture Of craig's telling me what we were. Doing, YES i was really proud of what the crew was able to pull on to, create like portraits and the tableaus that that they were.
00:51:06
Speaker 2: DOING i just thought of one thing when you talked about the.
00:51:08
Speaker 1: LEAF i hope it's okay IF i ask you one more, question because it's something that you just don't know the answer, to and we're coming up to it in the. Rewatch, okay do you remember after nine to eleven you And willie went out on the street.
00:51:21
Speaker 3: We, shot we.
00:51:22
Speaker 4: SHOT i was in A Vivian westwood, dress, yes And Vanola blank shoes and we were shooting by what is now A. Pc, yes it was a restaurant at the, time and we shot a whole scene and we have pictures of that. Scene that scene was cut AND i don't. Remember you, know who will know.
00:51:47
Speaker 2: That Michael patrick can't have all.
00:51:49
Speaker 3: The answers because it was On perry and West. Forth.
00:51:52
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah so we're probably shooting other scenes that day At carrie's.
00:51:56
Speaker 1: Stoop it doesn't, Exist and this is WHY i was unshure.
00:52:00
Speaker 3: It must have been part of the scenes that was, it part of.
00:52:05
Speaker 4: Which is post nine, eleven which has before the monologue she has about when he goes off TO. Napa she has that very prophetic monologue about saying that.
00:52:16
Speaker 1: Before, CORRECT, ireq that's what's. INSANE i think that also threw me. Irect everyone thinks that we filmed that, after but we did. Not we filmed it, before which is Just Michael patrick being.
00:52:26
Speaker 4: Prescient because When september eleventh happened AND i realized WHAT i had, SAID i said To Michael, patrick we're going to use. It he, said, yeah, absolutely he, said it's so, yeah so. Amazing that scene With willy got me And willy.
00:52:48
Speaker 2: Would have been in.
00:52:49
Speaker 3: That in that one cut you'll Have Michael patrick will know.
00:52:52
Speaker 2: Exactly which this makes. Sense this is sense because for, me it's, sure it's just. Beautiful the pictures are. Beautiful it's so.
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Speaker 3: Beautiful IT'S i know that dress was.
00:53:02
Speaker 2: Amazing so Good, yeah, good, okay, Cool there's so.
00:53:06
Speaker 4: MANY i don't. Know we barely scratch the. SURFACE i know we.
00:53:12
Speaker 2: SURFACE i know you when you, RING i know you.
00:53:16
Speaker 3: ARE i mean it overstep my you're.
00:53:19
Speaker 4: Not let me say on the record right, now if you don't ask, ME i would be. Hurt and IF i can do, It i'll be.
00:53:28
Speaker 3: Here. BABY i have one more.
00:53:29
Speaker 4: OUTFIT i think you will have a similar shirt as you will.
00:53:36
Speaker 3: Know love, it love, it love, it love.
00:53:37
Speaker 2: IT i know the shirt, well, well great BECAUSE i have other.
00:53:40
Speaker 3: THINGS i have so many to. See you will see. You we're going to be around and available for a while.
00:53:46
Speaker 1: Long fantastic because we Miss cynthia this time because she's because you need to come back for. Sin, okay it was so great that when you come back on, yesterday shoot and the three of us will have a.
00:53:56
Speaker 3: Meal oh my, god let's have a meal because we did LAST i, KNOW I i.
00:54:00
Speaker 1: WASN'T i didn't even THINK i was here for the podcast when we had that. Meal oh you weren't here for the.
00:54:04
Speaker 2: PODCAST i don't know what the HELL i was, doing BUT i was. Here it was really.
00:54:07
Speaker 3: Fun okay.
00:54:08
Speaker 4: ME i love, You Christen, DAVIS i love, You, Sarah Jessica, parker my, dream my, angel
Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte?
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Speaker 2: Everybody? Hi, welcome back, Sarah, Jessica is still with us. Here we go. We're just going to jump right back in all the things that you have done. Did you ever see that coming?
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Speaker 3: No, I don't think any of us.
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's that experience is and I think other people have these kinds of experiences that have not been a replication of They're not an imagining that you have because they didn't exist. Parts of it exist, like, for instance, people knowing who you are or you know, being a public figure. Those are those are things you can imagine or try to imagine, like what is that like and how does that.
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Speaker 3: Affect a life?
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Speaker 4: But because the show was so unusual, because New York City was so unusual inside the show, because there were all these women on the show, because fashion was in the show, because bags were in the show, because shoes were in the show, because it was it was shooting New York in ways that even inside cinema hadn't ever been shot that way. I mean, the closest I can kind of see in a way is an unmarried woman in terms of like a city being colorful and kind of you know, culture letting itself be known, and the streets looking a kind of aspirational, very different than a lot of other seventies cinema, which was hard and the city was a wreck, and a lot of people in cinema in New York City were confronting these kind of challenges that politics and time and economy were dictating. So I couldn't have imagined it because because it didn't exist. And I think, as you and I discussed in the past, if not on your podcast, then in person, I never wanted to be famous.
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Speaker 3: I never. I didn't not want to be famous. I never.
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Speaker 4: It didn't occur to me to be thinking about it because it wasn't part of it had nothing to do with why you wanted to be an actor. And fame was, you know, Paul Newman, Meryl Streep, Meryl Streep, Dustin Hoffman, Jodie Foster, Robert Redford, Barbara Streisend, Cecily Tyson, big figures in the movies and television was a different thing. And I and then there was theater, and I just wanted to work, Like I was like, how can I be a working actor?
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Speaker 3: Will that ever really happen.
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Speaker 4: Well, I will come a point in my life where I go to chemical bank and I'm not panicked about how much money I'm withdrawing on a weekly basis, Like I would give myself forty dollars to last me for the week. Putting out of that machine was like, girl, you're crazy out.
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Speaker 3: So we couldn't.
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Speaker 4: I don't think any of us could imagine it because it didn't really exist. There were elements you could pull together, but it wasn't. There was not an organism, no that we could look to.
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Speaker 1: Right. Also, it was not a requirement back then. I think that's important to say because I think now it seems like it is. I don't know if it really is, but it seems like it is. But it wasn't in our horizon as we must be famous to be able to work.
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Speaker 2: That didn't go together.
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Speaker 4: That like the privilege of And I really mean this, And there are lots of actress today who feel the same way.
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Speaker 3: They just simply want to work.
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Speaker 4: They want to do good work, they want to work with good actors, but they're happy to work on things that aren't great in order to just get a career established as pay the bills and learn.
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Speaker 1: And this is very important now because the middle class of actors is hurting badly and badly.
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Speaker 4: So sad the Journeyman, which I was a proud member of, and I feel like you felt like that ges like that that's been seriously compromised and will be more so with this merger. Like it's it's pretty, it's actually devastating, and it doesn't just affect the Journeymen, many of whom were telling their stories, but it's also the journeymen here, makeup people, crew members, like the collateral damages, the caterers, everything like it goes to you know, people that clean costumes, people that.
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Speaker 2: Everything build costumes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so dressers.
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Speaker 4: That was really a lucky time I think to be an actor, yes, post being a contract player in Hollywood, like it was a middle period where it was post studio ownership, right and pre streaming where you're not doing that many episodes. Six' eight order is a perfectly, fine, reasonable big. Deal you're happy to have, it BUT i think it's going to be like a very there will be a reckoning about who we are soon and BEING i think a merger was JUST i think the border proved it like two hours.
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Speaker 2: Ago.
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Speaker 1: No, yeah Well i'm going to get out a different picture THAN i was going to show you BECAUSE.
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Speaker 2: I have so many so Many, oh.
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Speaker 3: We're going on The Warner.
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Speaker 4: Brothers oh isn't? It is that lot going to be there?
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Speaker 3: Still what will it be?
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Speaker 1: Called, OKAY i don't, know but, listen there's going to be a riot In Los angeles if anyone does anything to that, lot because that is one of the main things that is being discussed at this point, point and it.
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Speaker 2: Is that is a priceless.
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Speaker 1: Jewel no one can change, anything not that.
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Speaker 2: LOT i feel very.
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Speaker 1: Strongly and WHEN i watched this particular, episode which is when we.
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Speaker 3: Go To la as you're screen, grab, YES i was, LIKE i never remember actually seeing because.
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Speaker 1: You drive onto the lot to meet mcconaugheys.
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Speaker 3: And you're in that. Car, yeah The mustang THAT i almost.
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Speaker 1: Exactly the Terrifying mustang THAT i was just on sweets the other day AND i was, like this is the.
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Speaker 4: BLOCK i can't even drive on sweets. ANYMORE i, KNOW i literally won't drive up. THAT i KNOW i hadnt even with an automatic. TRANSMISSION i JUST i KNOW i have an anxiety attack as well When i'm on, It and do you remember THAT i was not in that, scene BUT i, came, yes.
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Speaker 3: BECAUSE i was, like, wait what's?
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Speaker 2: Happening is everyone?
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Speaker 4: Okay because you were in the rodeo scene right afterwards that, DAY i THINK.
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Speaker 1: I come AND i go right like dipping, in dipping out The, NO i an't stay with that.
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Speaker 3: EITHER i WAS i in.
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Speaker 2: THAT i think you watched you watch her being her bold old self right. Right it's a great. Episode it's so much. Fun AND i had what season is? That that is season Three?
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Speaker 3: California, yes, WOW.
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Speaker 1: I just also WHAT i parked down off sweetsir and THEN i walked by the Old, standard which they're redoing into something.
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Speaker 2: Decent. Wow it's a lot of. Change, wow it's kind of.
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Speaker 1: Terrifying BUT i LOVE i love THE la, episodes of course BECAUSE i LOVE la as well as you. Know but seeing us there is so highly highly entertaining and Seeing carrie experiencing the industry, stuff it's so good and, funny and it's almost like when we first start really trying different, things, right like we're going to go outside our comfort. Zone but early on we also have this other very trippy thing THAT i THINK i texted you about SOMETIMES i have these moments Where i'm, Like i've got to text her she knows, this and it's always very last.
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Speaker 2: Minute but this is in the first.
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Speaker 1: SEASON i believe this is when you're levitating On Fifth, avenue which we're very confused. About, yeah and you said you thought you remember them building a platform and.
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Speaker 3: You're wearing this that season. One, yeah it's not the.
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Speaker 2: Pilot, no not the, pilot not the.
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Speaker 1: Pilot isn't it trippy that like you're walking Down Fifth avenue at night and you.
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Speaker 2: Levitates who's? That that is a? Guy it's a handsome.
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Speaker 3: GUY i think it's the guy who.
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Speaker 1: Leaves you money in the morning and you have to if you're a prostitute or.
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Speaker 4: Not, yes, yeah, yeah you know WHAT i do think they built a platform.
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Speaker 1: And that's what they how like you're, Up you're just up and they blew some wind a you were somebody.
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Speaker 3: There is there narration over? This? Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah my guess is, yes they either put a fan on me or somebody had big. Cards they were just going like, this, Honestly, yeah, yeah, yeah and.
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Speaker 3: Uh, yeah isn't that?
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Speaker 4: Amazing and IF i watched, IT i would be able to tell you exactly what, happened but because.
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Speaker 1: You want to ever watch, it like what's your really gut feeling on?
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Speaker 4: IT i JUST i THINK i think it's too complicated for. ME i THINK i can't just.
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Speaker 3: ENJOY i THINK i.
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Speaker 4: Can't the thing, IS I i don't have ANY i never think, Back OH i wish we had enjoyed. It so it's not THAT i Can it's not THAT i have fears, About, oh look how wonderful that. Was why DIDN'T i enjoy? It or why DIDN'T i experience what it was to be doing all these, scenes you, know whether they worked or, not or it's it's so hard to describe WHY i.
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Speaker 3: It MAKES i don't know. THAT i don't.
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Speaker 4: KNOW i don't want to go. BACK i JUST i want it to stay. Here and if there's things THAT i WISH i had done, BETTER i can't touch. IT i can't fix, IT i can't.
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Speaker 2: Remedy that's definitely.
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Speaker 4: True AND i Think i've functioned best typically And i'm a super sentimental, person so this just seems anathema to What i'm. Describing But i'm better in certain circumstances moving forward with like, this like abundance of kind of the kind of FEELINGS i have about it that are almost hard to, Articulate Like i've GOT i loved it so. Much MAYBE i just don't want to touch it or.
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Speaker 3: SOMETHING i loved.
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Speaker 4: IT i loved it even at its most difficult, moments even the times that it surprised me in its challenge right personal, Professional But i'm thrilled that people love to read watch. IT i couldn't be more grateful or astounded THAT i get to be a part of this particular kind of history with an, Audience, yes and, personally just that we can talk about the things we ate or couldn't, eat or you, know doing a scene and hearing somebody's hip, crack or like all the, funny weird stuff that we, have like bundled and found storage for and piled in more the next season and found more storage in our unit that was full.
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Speaker 3: Already, Know, yes.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely so absolutely.
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Speaker 1: TRUE i mean for, ME i, think previous to doing the, PODCAST i felt exactly how you, felt like it was alive in me in my own, way, right like we have our own, experiences.
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Speaker 2: Yeah which are different than the. Audience's.
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Speaker 1: Yeah the joy That i'm getting NOW i think partly because ORIGINALLY i had so much, anxiety AND i would watch it about, myself not about, you.
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Speaker 3: Guys, KNOW i hear you talk about, that and what do you?
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Speaker 4: THINK i just WISH i WISH i had known more about the things that that were consuming, you LIKE i WISH. I i, mean you were pretty good at saying the most obvious when you needed help or comfort or someone to say, no that's of, course that's not. Real of course you didn't do it that. Way of course you don't look like that in this. Skirt of course.
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Speaker 3: That that AND i remember that to hear you.
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Speaker 4: Articulate all the ways in which you were kind of haunted daily by this sense of AM i yet?
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Speaker 3: Permanent? Here AM? I?
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Speaker 4: AM?
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Speaker 3: I AM i? Staying is this? Mine DO i get to be A New?
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Speaker 4: Yorker i'm not sure that you even knew at that time what it was that, was you, know in a kind of, illness like what was the? Bacteria like, Look, GOD i don't know that you could have said at that.
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Speaker 2: TIME i don't THINK i could.
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Speaker 4: Have, WELL i had this contract, thing and this thing, happened and it will take me forever to feel. Secure and, therefore anything that feels That i'm scared of or uncertain of Or i'm not sure it was good or was it the third take or the seventh or this person like all of that is going to be informed by you not feeling for sure that you're wanted in a, place even though you're seeing examples of. You, yes it doesn't. Matter it took a long. Time it took a long time.
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Speaker 3: For you to. Feel, Yes.
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Speaker 4: BUT i didn't know, that and you would not have said it at the time that you wouldn't have said it that radically, well BECAUSE i, didn't And i'm not sure you even putting it, together have wanted to burden, you, right you know you had enough well you, know or or probably burdened. Anybody, Yeah, NO i. DIDN'T i mean you probably didn't even.
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Speaker 3: Tell dave or did You dave, knew but were you able to really?
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Speaker 4: Say but when this, happened it took me this many months to actually believe.
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Speaker 2: Or now, RIGHT i didn't have that. AWARENESS i did not have that. Awareness AND i would go.
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Speaker 1: So far as to say that even the contractual part of, it right also just tapped into a bigger personal thing THAT i had previous two us ever coming together, right, Right And Michael patrick said something so interesting to. ME i guess last time he came, on or maybe it was in, Life i'm not sure. Where he said something about how like my growth as an actress over, time which obviously we've had this incredible time, together AND i do feel Like i've been like a loud and, cultivated you, know to grow into myself in such a profound and in credible, way you, know by, you by, him.
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Speaker 3: By all your, talent so the more you have to, do.
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Speaker 1: Yes but definitely by people having the faith in, me you, know that has helped. Me. Right but he says something about how in the beginning that like if we were.
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Speaker 2: Going to take and there was, noise THAT i would be out.
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Speaker 1: One and then he said he was so proud when we went back to and just like that that wasn't true. Anymore AND i was, like what that is really. Bizarre but that had to do with my nervous. System of course it, did, yes it did not like it was affected by, us but it was a previously existing.
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Speaker 4: Situation but that's how all of us behave as. Humans is the thing that rattled us comes with us until we can prove that thing that rattled us inferior to what we we.
00:15:50
Speaker 3: Know we can do or or be the boss of.
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Speaker 2: Yeah or like.
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Speaker 1: Like for, me it felt like you guys having faith in me was like a daily kind of a bomb to my hyper vigilant and fight or flight type nervous system THAT i walked in, with, right that was then stimulated by them, saying, oh by the, way we're going to demote.
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Speaker 3: You you know WHAT i?
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Speaker 2: Mean, OH i, know.
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Speaker 1: Right obviously it was not exactly like fantastic for, me but it was what it, was AND i still had the faith in me THAT i meant was meant to be. There it's just that the faith was little and the anxiety was, big, Right and then there were other, things as you, know the nineties very hard on.
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Speaker 3: All the women and definitely aren't on the.
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Speaker 2: Actresses it was not.
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Speaker 1: Easy and people are talking about that, now WHICH i really, enjoy, right and please talk about, that because it's not like it's.
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Speaker 4: Gone no, no, no, no it's just it's very, different but it's definitely not.
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Speaker 2: Gone it's not.
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Speaker 1: Gone SO i think the belief that you all had in me, CONTRIBUTED I Mike craig really, sorry contributed to the slow healing THAT i, needed you, Know and that's the.
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Speaker 4: Joy i'm not sure you were probably even aware of that kind of accumulation of a kind of courage you, needed.
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Speaker 3: BUT i would.
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Speaker 4: REMEMBER i remember if if somebody, moved like if you're if they, were you, know over my shoulder to you and Behind Joe collins or whomever at that, Point john MacDonald or whoever was pulling. Focus if a bunch of people, moved or one or two, did it was. Start it was like your eye was like hyper. Vigilant AND I I i understood. THAT i knew that that was your your nervous, system and never bothered me BECAUSE i just wanted you to feel, okay you, know AND i knew that as you. Do, yeah but knowing in the practice are so hard.
00:18:03
Speaker 2: TILL i felt, It like when he said that that surprised. ME i didn't even know that people, notice do you know What i'm. Saying it's all so interesting in so many.
00:18:10
Speaker 1: Layers and that's also just the joy of getting to be together for all of the, long many many.
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Speaker 4: Years you all know each other's things and when to step in and when to help and the ways in which to distract and, yes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes and it's just joyful. Joyful i'm going to go back to some pictures.
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Speaker 1: Because these are things where, like as we've been going along the, Thing i'm, like.
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Speaker 2: Oh what would she say about? This?
00:18:35
Speaker 1: Right uh huh, Okay so let's talk about some. Outfits this outfit is when we're in The. Hamptons this is the first time That carrie Sees natasha And big together and you are wearing a cowboy hat and a tube top and a very low slung stripey.
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Speaker 3: Skirt. YEAH i love that.
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Speaker 1: Outfit everyone loves this tit that was a fit not walk out right now and.
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Speaker 3: Be like not on, me but somebody.
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Speaker 4: ELSE i think it was probably just At. Coachella, yeah that was a bra from a bra. Company it was the one bra that wasn't just a plain nude. Bra it was A straples spraw That pat And molly had found AND i was, like, OH i could just do. That it had like a animal print on.
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Speaker 3: IT i.
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Speaker 4: Think, yeah that was a nothing, hat you, know a two dollars, hat. Crossbody. YEAH i remember all of it extremely. Well remember the the, arm the bracelet around my you, know, YES i do my, Arms AND i think one of the REASONS i remember that outfit was that it was such an important, episode and we spent so many days in those.
00:19:46
Speaker 2: Outfits so. Good it was so good in that.
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Speaker 1: OUTFIT i, Mean i'm in that. Episode they're in the same but look at another arm.
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Speaker 4: Man, yes Mister dayla rent have built that dress for. ME i understood, later AND i didn't at the time that people didn't like it or they criticized.
00:20:03
Speaker 3: IT i. Guess.
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Speaker 4: So, Yeah WELL i, was you, know on the list of like the worst or less cared for emmy.
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Speaker 3: Dresser are you?
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Speaker 2: KIDDING i.
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Speaker 4: DIDN'T i literally didn't care because it was Mister Dayla, renta And i'm sure that was my. IDEA i love it so. Much is it had a little dress tail on that?
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Speaker 3: Flower is?
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Speaker 2: It does it have the year at the top that you?
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Speaker 3: Didn't, no it, doesn't oh, no two, thousand two.
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Speaker 2: Thousand. Yeah but we had a fantastic.
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Speaker 4: Time we had a, great great. Time we were staying at The. Peninsula, Yeah Laura mercier did my. Makeup SARAH. G normant did my. Hair those earrings were borrowed From Fred. Layton Mister dala Rent to built the. Dress i'm SURE i was Wearing Manolo's and the thing about that, night and there's my, Husband. Matthew so handsome was that when we came back to The Peninsula, hotel we were all hanging out in the, bar that dark, dark that dark, bar and somebody AND i Remember Michael patrick AND i were sitting in. Front we were waiting for everybody, else and someone complimented my. Makeup And laura had told me BEFORE i left my hotel, room she, said twenty four hour guarantee about my. Makeup and it WAS i don't know how many hours.
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Speaker 2: Later you, KNOW i mean so many hours.
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Speaker 4: And waiting for the car and getting back to the ho tat from wherever it.
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Speaker 3: Was, Yeah AND.
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Speaker 4: I remember, Thinking, god she's right for our. Guarantee. Amazing AND i Remember Emily, mattson my best friend, daughter was at the hotel that day WHILE i was getting. Ready she was always at the hotel and she was so. LITTLE i have a picture with me and With emily that, day who was just a tiny little.
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Speaker 1: Toddler, yeah, Okay and here is a really fun. Memory this is the dress that she wore to The Golden globes in two thousand and.
00:21:46
Speaker 4: Two oh, CORPET i love him so. MUCH i can't wait for him to do your Podcast.
00:21:54
Speaker 2: From Your lips To God's.
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Speaker 3: THERE i love. HIM i love that dress Is.
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Speaker 4: Chanel i'm not even sure that dress Is, chanelle and it's actually not a.
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Speaker 3: DRESS i think.
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Speaker 4: It's Pan pan maybe, right we're In chanelle. Bow That's lorenz for.
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Speaker 2: Sure So loren has, Entered.
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Speaker 4: Yes and, YEAH i love. That it was really easy to. Wear my guess IS i can't remember how long my hair was When James welki was. Born this, is, oh two thousand and, two so it's that's the. Haircut is that right After? James was it two thousand and? Two it would, be, oh this is The Golden, Globe so this is the top of the.
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Speaker 3: Year this is like a month or so BEFORE i was. Pregnant you know WHAT.
00:22:35
Speaker 2: I think this. IS i think this is the.
00:22:37
Speaker 1: Time do you remember When Katie couric would come and interview people for her show some?
00:22:42
Speaker 2: Show, No, well so we ALL i THINK i think that.
00:22:49
Speaker 1: Maybe we didn't win as a, show but we had one the year, before okay, maybe and we all got together to go backstage And Katie krek sits down and we Love katie, Right, yeah.
00:22:59
Speaker 2: She's like a friend of the. Show you know WHAT i, mean and we sit down and we're all.
00:23:02
Speaker 1: Bubbly and it's exciting and we're going to talk to her and she puts on the hard news space and she, says what about all the controversy and people not liking the?
00:23:10
Speaker 2: Show and we were, like, exactly.
00:23:14
Speaker 4: Because look it says HERE i won, exactly AND i think we said.
00:23:18
Speaker 3: Exactly oh that's.
00:23:20
Speaker 1: So, FUNNY i, know, right this is you holding your emmy oh two thousand and, four.
00:23:25
Speaker 3: Two thousand and.
00:23:26
Speaker 1: Four, Yes AND i remember that you And matthew sat next to me and we have a, funny funny picture of you and me leaning over him and he just looks, like.
00:23:32
Speaker 2: Oh my, God i'm come and we're just like, no, no, no no.
00:23:36
Speaker 3: Wow they finally had to give it to, me.
00:23:42
Speaker 1: And it was it was overdue and, well but WHEN i know WHEN i look at season three and season, four and this is, why just, SELFISHLY i hope at some point in your, long long life that's. Coming because the, thing this is the main THING i want to say to, you AND i think it's the important, thing is that we already have this in, ourselves. Right we have our memories as you're talking, about, right and our memories are separate from the finished. Show, right there are, memories, right they're priceless and you, know.
00:24:09
Speaker 2: Treasured, yeah and we have.
00:24:11
Speaker 1: That AND i felt this week BEFORE i was, rewatching, right, LIKE i have WHAT i have AND i have WHAT i, need AND i love the people come up and talk to, me BUT i don't necessarily.
00:24:21
Speaker 2: Share like sometimes they'll say to, ME i don't remember.
00:24:24
Speaker 3: That, yeah you know WHAT i. Mean but that's, okay that's.
00:24:26
Speaker 1: Fine it's incredible that they remember, anything, Right, Yeah but What i've gotten As i've been rewatching a few, things of. Course number, one absolutely floored by how good it. Is and, yes it's all over the place, sometimes but it's all.
00:24:41
Speaker 3: Good it's.
00:24:43
Speaker 2: Funny you fall, DOWN i, mean you fall in the.
00:24:46
Speaker 1: MUD i MEAN i show you, pictures you know WHAT i, Mean like in end you're loving you, DOWN i know when you're so fantastic at, it and.
00:24:52
Speaker 2: We could watch.
00:24:52
Speaker 1: It they make you fall in the mud over and over, again just because it's fun to.
00:24:56
Speaker 2: Watch do you remember, THIS i do remember that's in the.
00:24:59
Speaker 3: Country, yes remember. THAT i remember we were look at you in the. Mud, yes, YES i MEAN i fell plenty in the. Mud you felt a, Lot, YEAH i was super happy to do that and it was no, problem.
00:25:10
Speaker 1: So, great and you And john going up there to wherever they have. Suffering BUT i don't know if you, were you, know we.
00:25:16
Speaker 4: Were IN i think we were somewhere In New. Jersey but it was really fun and we had crew dinners AND i LOVED i.
00:25:27
Speaker 3: Love being on location with our crew so. MUCH i JUST i loved. It me, too me.
00:25:32
Speaker 1: TOO i didn't get to go as often as. You but remember when we went to whatever stood in for The, hamptons a couple.
00:25:37
Speaker 3: Of, paces, no, no no. Plan that was. Different, sorry we were not in The.
00:25:42
Speaker 4: Hamptons we were we were we were rock, Away yeah we.
00:25:46
Speaker 3: Were we were west of that.
00:25:50
Speaker 1: Far, yeah we couldn't afford you were, there, Right but it was always really. Fun and then remember there was the wedding Of julie's character where we also worked all night and we're wearing like fantastic outfits and you're Pregnant julie's Character Julie julie, sorry, sorry you were the writer had a character where she on the, show AND i just don't remember that.
00:26:10
Speaker 3: Too, YES i was super. Pregnant it was our last.
00:26:13
Speaker 4: Episode, yes because that was the last TIME i had to cover my pregnancy AND i was wearing A David darlrymple pink sort of bubble, yes.
00:26:23
Speaker 3: Yes and my hair WAS i remember my hair was sort Of beldo. Joure. Yes. Yeah and she Married Nathan. Lane.
00:26:31
Speaker 4: Yes And cynthia was super pregnant too when we Were there's a picture of Us i've seen frequently AND i don't know, why but there's a picture of us from that. Wedding she looked so pretty at that. Wedding, yeah you both love, THAT i mean me. Too, yeah and we were one of raw because.
00:26:52
Speaker 3: It was all built in because he does.
00:26:54
Speaker 1: That, yeah, yeah, yeah, Amazing, yes totally all, RIGHT i have some mother just. Yeah so this is also From sex and The. Country, now oh, wow, YEAH i remember all. That do you remember that you Leave aiden in The, country you take the train back To New york and you have dinner With big and you wear that green?
00:27:13
Speaker 4: Serious, YES i KNOW i felt the same. Way was that one of the criticisms coming FROM i think that that is a J cruise shirt that was my, own, wow THAT i brought, In and, that of course is A Vivian westwood skirt from century twenty. One, yep, yep that's a thrift store.
00:27:34
Speaker 2: Top love it so.
00:27:35
Speaker 3: Much AND i can't remember what the bottoms.
00:27:36
Speaker 2: WERE i think they were like little jean shorts or. Something this is when you're gonna make the. Pie and it's also when you school. It make a, Pie, yes you make a whole pie.
00:27:45
Speaker 1: Crust but then he makes you drop it and you burn your, legs and that's when you finally admit that you hate the.
00:27:50
Speaker 2: Country it's really.
00:27:52
Speaker 1: Good and then he really feels like you don't love him because you.
00:27:56
Speaker 3: Don't of course she loves, him of, course but he.
00:27:59
Speaker 4: Doesn't ye do IF i, don't IF i don't love the country, enough IF i can't, adapt IF i can't get burned and and find some, ointment, yes then it's it's it's her, problem, right it's not the. Problem it's not the country's, problem.
00:28:17
Speaker 1: Definitely but ALSO i think for, him he has identified himself as this. House, yes, yes, Right and he's, like she doesn't see, me she doesn't get. Me that's what he's, playing, right because he's so. Good, yes but so do you remember when you lost your voice squealing at the?
00:28:31
Speaker 2: Squirrel?
00:28:34
Speaker 3: YEAH i have a vague recollection of. That it was very.
00:28:36
Speaker 4: Rare, yes and then we had to shoot the next day and you were so st you didn't.
00:28:42
Speaker 2: Have a you could not speak.
00:28:45
Speaker 4: EXACTLY i remember shooting this late at night because this was probably on the back end of A i bet we were on splits.
00:28:54
Speaker 3: Almost.
00:28:54
Speaker 4: Yep this was sort of like after a bunch of day. Scenes this was probably this was like the last scene of the night with this, skirt.
00:29:03
Speaker 2: And you very creatively twirl DO i you?
00:29:06
Speaker 4: Do Because i'm SURE i just wanted to show off the back end you. Beautifully it, works not my back, end but the skirts back UND i, know it was.
00:29:16
Speaker 3: Special it was.
00:29:17
Speaker 2: Great, okay, WAIT i have another big Dying.
00:29:32
Speaker 3: Oh, YEAH i love that outfits so, much so.
00:29:35
Speaker 2: MUCH i love it so, much.
00:29:36
Speaker 1: Guys this is the ONE i Asked molly. About molly last so hard and called it all kinds of crazy names and said she thought you were trying to break the. Rules it's the lavender hose that are pulled up over her, shorts and she also was.
00:29:47
Speaker 2: Wearing like basically A Victoria's secret. Bra from WHAT i can, do wonder. Bra it's a, Wonderfral it's a.
00:29:52
Speaker 4: Wonderbral it's a kind of heliotrope colored Wonderbra And i'm sure it was my idea to put those tights on and yank them, up because that's how you.
00:30:02
Speaker 3: ARE i, mean that's actually how you are at. Home, yeah that's the.
00:30:06
Speaker 4: Truth and at this, point at this, point you know you can do things like, this like if you if you're trying to say something about somebody and you've kind of found your footing and you've articulated with images and her, words then why not do something like this for a. SCENE i think she's running to try to get her laundry. Closed it's it's perfect to run in, that, yes It's AND i love this AND i think that's probably like IF i had to pick one of three looks that said who Is?
00:30:45
Speaker 3: Carrie this would be one of them in a.
00:30:47
Speaker 4: Way because you're inside her apartment and she's walking around her apartment like.
00:30:52
Speaker 3: That, yes so that feels very real to. Me you don't have to show them to.
00:30:57
Speaker 2: Me this.
00:30:57
Speaker 4: ONE i didn't like that as much as everybody. Else i'll tell you why this was the. Crochete, Yeah i'll tell you why didn't part of. ME i love the hat AND i love the, coat AND i like how it looks. Still but the problem with this is that it was a Cotton it's not it's not THAT i didn't like what it. Was it's just it's very hard to fit something like that because it's it, moves it's a. Cut, yes it's a it's a cotton, thread so it's all, natural so it's not holding a it's a holding a. Shape so it was very hard to tailor it. With we try to give you a waste. With it's not terribly thick yarn or, string but it's just Not it doesn't have any unnatural fiber in, it so it.
00:31:46
Speaker 3: Can't it was a long. Day it. Worked we were, going we were we were In Madison's Madison Square.
00:31:53
Speaker 4: Park we were in The Bryant, park, yes, Yes and it was unpleasantly cold.
00:31:57
Speaker 3: Day it's a false spring.
00:31:59
Speaker 4: Day, yes it looks like one of those days that there was wind and you're a little bit in the shadows because of the buildings and the way the sun's. Moving was that the same day that we Did heidi in the same.
00:32:12
Speaker 2: Park, NO i Think heide Was Bryant.
00:32:14
Speaker 3: Park it Was Briant park, though, yeah same, park.
00:32:17
Speaker 2: Right, YES i same, Park, YES i think. So so what do you think Of?
00:32:22
Speaker 1: Heidi?
00:32:22
Speaker 4: OH i Love, HIDE i would always love HE i Love heidi. TOO i love that asked them to put yes. Bles you were so ahead of your.
00:32:32
Speaker 1: Time so all the little girls on TikTok do this all the right.
00:32:36
Speaker 2: Time, Yes oh my, god there's products you can can buy now on the.
00:32:39
Speaker 3: Stove, Yes jemma wants.
00:32:42
Speaker 2: Them are they?
00:32:44
Speaker 3: Unsafe, No i'm just like they're just a Frivolous.
00:32:47
Speaker 2: Yes i'm just, like, okay.
00:32:48
Speaker 1: Okay so here is another incredible. Look it's in the EPISODE A change Of. Address you're doing a walking talk With miranda and you're wearing the light pink top palm tree, skirt and then you have put a green belt around your, stomach but it is not attached to the skirt or the.
00:33:05
Speaker 4: TOP i remember that we were. WALKING i think up walking on The upper West. SIDE i, think, yes it's a good back. Talk, Yeah AND i was, like, Yeah i'll put the belt.
00:33:13
Speaker 3: There Really?
00:33:14
Speaker 1: Yeah did it come like down on the skirt and you just took.
00:33:18
Speaker 3: It off the?
00:33:19
Speaker 4: Skirt it's the, same it is, right it's not it's Not it's not a matching belt at.
00:33:25
Speaker 1: All.
00:33:25
Speaker 2: Wow what episode does it say at The, Top.
00:33:27
Speaker 3: Season, four episode.
00:33:29
Speaker 4: Fifteen, yeah people had a lot of feelings about that.
00:33:33
Speaker 2: BELT i love it so, much AND i loved.
00:33:35
Speaker 3: IT i was, like why? Not, YEAH i don't.
00:33:38
Speaker 4: Know when you're working With pat And molly at this, point it's, like all's.
00:33:42
Speaker 3: Fair, Yeah i'll try. Everything and.
00:33:48
Speaker 4: So many times people ask me in, interviews you, know do you regret LIKE i regret none of?
00:33:52
Speaker 3: It, yeah, grectly as you, know regret.
00:33:55
Speaker 1: Definitely so, wait what are the other two outfits if we had to pick three For? CARRIE i have an answer prepared to Be, okay, WAIT i have some. Ideas, okay, personally love beyond.
00:34:05
Speaker 3: BELIEF i don't think that's really. Carried.
00:34:07
Speaker 1: OKAY i just love this white dress From change Of. Address it's the final scene Where carrie And aiden break up in front of the fountain At Columbus.
00:34:15
Speaker 2: CIRCLE i, MEAN i.
00:34:16
Speaker 4: Just love a beautiful. Dress and that dress Is Mishka, yeah which is really it's it's an it's.
00:34:26
Speaker 3: Like trying something, on but it. DOESN'T i think it's really Essentially, Yeah AND i love that scene so.
00:34:34
Speaker 4: Much and WHAT i love about that, scene first of, all once again Is John corbett's, acting WHICH i just think is just, sublime and that's WHY i wish you would do your.
00:34:44
Speaker 3: Podcast but right now it's the same earrings From Fred.
00:34:48
Speaker 4: Layton but WHAT i really love about this scene is that we were shooting it and shooting. IT i don't know if you've heard this, story and they're over the shoulder at me on my side when we Are i'm on a apple.
00:35:00
Speaker 3: Box that's always because he's so.
00:35:01
Speaker 4: Tall and AND i felt LIKE i wasn't getting the scene, Right LIKE i just wasn't getting it, right And michael was far. Away whoever was directing was pretty far Away Alan. TAYLOR i felt, like really messed, up and they didn't. Cut they were far, away they couldn't be there because of the, shots, Right.
00:35:28
Speaker 3: And SO i was just stopping the.
00:35:33
Speaker 4: SCRIPT i was stopping the words as written and just saying and exhortations and, things And michael used all, that.
00:35:46
Speaker 3: Which really suits the. Scene it's so.
00:35:49
Speaker 4: Good, Yes i'm, Like i'm not getting this. Right i'm not doing.
00:35:53
Speaker 2: This you were having the same experience That carrie was. Happening, yeah, Amazing and so.
00:35:57
Speaker 4: That's WHAT i really remember about the, scene as, like, Oh, michael you, crafty so, crafty so.
00:36:02
Speaker 1: Crafty, WAIT i realized THAT i didn't tell you the. End i'm going to show you two other, dresses but, SURE i did not tell you the end of My one of the things That i've realized from rewatching and it's it's kind of, obvious But i'm just going to say it because it's POWERFUL i had for.
00:36:15
Speaker 3: Me it was.
00:36:16
Speaker 1: POWERFUL i had two weeks, OFF i was traveling from the, podcast, right and then it came back AND i had to rewatch a, couple you, know for to guess catch, up AND i had like a physical sensation of warmth WHEN i turned it.
00:36:32
Speaker 2: On oh, Wow AND i, thought this is what everyone.
00:36:37
Speaker 3: Feels oh, wow it was.
00:36:40
Speaker 4: Amazing, yeah like when people try to describe their experience watching it or what it makes them feel, like.
00:36:47
Speaker 1: And it's intangible in a, way, Right like there was a long time WHERE i was, Like, oh it's the, colors is that this is? That that is it's the, pithy it's the you, know the, dialogue and it's all those, things of, course but there's something that we, created AND i think it has to do with the, acceptance with the found family, theme with the lack of judgment that you feel enveloped when.
00:37:11
Speaker 2: You watch, it it's so.
00:37:15
Speaker 1: And it made me, feel of course That i'm with, us, yeah because of COURSE i know, us Which i'm so. Lucky BUT i also feel like what we made is so strong that that's how people, feel which.
00:37:26
Speaker 2: Explains so much about when people come up and hug.
00:37:29
Speaker 1: Us, yeah WHICH i remember when it first started AND i was, like oh my, god what is?
00:37:33
Speaker 2: Happening, RIGHT i, mean.
00:37:34
Speaker 1: It's, beautiful but it's also just like you're in your day and you're not expecting that you, forget you know WHAT i. Mean and it's ALSO i understand it so much more.
00:37:42
Speaker 2: Deeply, yeah AND i think it's. Important it feels.
00:37:47
Speaker 3: Like maybe IF i watch, IT i would. UNDERSTAND i MEAN i try.
00:37:52
Speaker 4: TO i HOPE i communicate THAT i, understand if not for that, reason but for other.
00:37:57
Speaker 3: Reasons but that's very.
00:37:59
Speaker 4: Interesting it was a physical, sensation that's really And i'm basing on.
00:38:04
Speaker 1: A weekly, right So i've been in it and THEN i was away from it AND i went.
00:38:08
Speaker 2: Back AND i was, like oh.
00:38:09
Speaker 3: My, god well that's really nice to.
00:38:12
Speaker 1: Hear it's so good to be a part of, it, Right, Yeah and it's also LIKE i think what we were saying earlier and then just to put a button on it or.
00:38:20
Speaker 2: Whatever like the we had a.
00:38:23
Speaker 1: Bit of almost like, naivete and we were at the right. Time but the fearlessness with which it is all done and every, DEPARTMENT i mean every single department, right like just firing on all, cylinders, right but in terms of the, acting and you may never be able to feel yourself this personally experienced this about. YOURSELF i know it's very hard for me to feel this way about. Myself but WHEN i can watch, YOU i can feel. This it is so, naked like when you have these breakups and these layered Layered you've got, big you've got, Aiden you've got.
00:39:02
Speaker 2: You, know oh we had we had Jazz. Man what's his, Name, Oh Craig.
00:39:06
Speaker 3: Bierka, yeah, yeah so much.
00:39:09
Speaker 1: FUN i, mean you, know you're just so you're so present and layered at all. Times it's, Amazing.
00:39:19
Speaker 2: It's really and you, KNOW i love, you and you, KNOW i think you're.
00:39:22
Speaker 1: Incredible but every Time i'm, like oh my, god like it just is better and, better so nice and deeper and.
00:39:28
Speaker 4: Deeper, well you know that's so nice to. Hear AND i will say that When corbett came back.
00:39:39
Speaker 3: To do in just like.
00:39:40
Speaker 4: That he said he had been. TERRIFIED i don't know if you've shared this with, you but he was, LIKE i think he was afraid of watching you, know the original his, stuff you, know from his entry on and and then he, said you, know he'd been so happy and he, said you you really got to watch it because it's so. Good it's, true you, know AND i was so happy he was feeling because he's also hard on.
00:40:08
Speaker 2: Himself, yeah, yes.
00:40:09
Speaker 4: And he could really appreciate how great he.
00:40:14
Speaker 2: Was i'm so. Glad you, know he really is. Great he is.
00:40:17
Speaker 1: Incredible, okay, wait two other things and Then i'm gonna have to Stop.
00:40:22
Speaker 4: Richard, tyler, yes in the band just and So mollie, says we had.
00:40:26
Speaker 3: Two of, Them that's what she.
00:40:27
Speaker 2: Said AND i just wonder where they. Are do you think one is in your?
00:40:30
Speaker 3: Storage, no they took them.
00:40:32
Speaker 4: Back, yeah that means they took it back Pain but you, know for every dress that.
00:40:37
Speaker 3: A designer rightfully asked for, back we have something. Else of.
00:40:41
Speaker 4: Course so even though it's, incomplete right there are some holes or like some missing, teeth of, course it is it's like a really, good you, know template of. Everything pat And molly. Did, yeah and it seems on the.
00:40:58
Speaker 2: Film, yeah and your phone and the most beautiful and bell ahead were.
00:41:03
Speaker 3: Over and over that.
00:41:04
Speaker 2: Day.
00:41:05
Speaker 4: Yeah so what they did is they had that whole crew had gotten, there you, know a couple hours before. Us And i'll try to tell this story really. Quickly and they had set up as best they could sort of to scale and to, height a meeting to, fall meeting to, fall so that everything could be, done we could be sure of everything in advance of the hopefully one.
00:41:34
Speaker 3: Take so they.
00:41:35
Speaker 4: Had these big pads fall pads like you, know stunt, pads big pillows as you, know, right, yes and they had you, know, uh let's see it be, lower, Right so they had you.
00:41:49
Speaker 3: Know one was here to hear like the doc to the water correct.
00:41:52
Speaker 4: It and we just practiced falling like talking, falling talking, falling talking falling and well, no if you do, that THEN i might not fall this, way but MAYBE i should do.
00:42:03
Speaker 3: That don't hold on to be, there do hold on to be.
00:42:05
Speaker 2: Here.
00:42:05
Speaker 4: WOW i, remember you, know dawn as soon as the light came, up when it was light enough to, rehearse, well if we if you, know if you go in that, way Then i'm going to turn this way away from. It like everything was as close to mimicking real yeshute body, reaction so that when we did AND i don't know if they had three or four cameras that day as my, guests but they had to like be smart about that too because they want it from every, angle so you can't you can't get us quick sighting up a camera and those were bigger cameras, then, Right but it was so much fun AND i did cut myself AND i did have to get a.
00:42:41
Speaker 3: Technics.
00:42:42
Speaker 1: Yeah do you remember. That this is when we had our? Blackberries, yes and he.
00:43:00
Speaker 3: Gave you a? BlackBerry you?
00:43:02
Speaker 1: Did thank?
00:43:05
Speaker 3: You you didn't have a lot of. THEM i thank. You, NO i really want this.
00:43:11
Speaker 1: In my.
00:43:11
Speaker 2: Life you made my. LIFE i mean, also it was just the best time to be on the. Set AND.
00:43:20
Speaker 3: I wish we had all.
00:43:21
Speaker 4: THOSE i, KNOW i don't have to do this TYPE i have. THEM i just don't have the messages.
00:43:26
Speaker 2: Write me neither because they're gone or.
00:43:28
Speaker 3: Whatever.
00:43:29
Speaker 2: YEAH i remember a.
00:43:31
Speaker 4: Bay company called Rim, rim yes out of Like, Waterloo canada or.
00:43:35
Speaker 3: Something, Yes, yes.
00:43:37
Speaker 2: You had the connection, man you were On it's on and on all the things she was on. This, yes, no you had it on your little.
00:43:44
Speaker 3: Belt it was the.
00:43:45
Speaker 4: Hugest because the oar might call it might be called into surgery at any.
00:43:50
Speaker 3: Time, totally.
00:43:52
Speaker 1: Totally so the day of THIS i was not, working BUT i knew you had to do. IT i remember feeling anxiety about, it excitement, also, right it was in the, park so it was near, me AND i remember at some point MAYBE i had to come in, later maybe you just texted, me or maybe it was the next, day but paparazzi had been around and had gotten a picture that they felt, was you, know.
00:44:13
Speaker 2: Revealing oh, really do you remember? This interesting to?
00:44:18
Speaker 1: ME i remember it as being so completely, horrifying and you were, like they don't have, Anything.
00:44:25
Speaker 2: AND i, said are you? SURE i was so panicked for you.
00:44:28
Speaker 1: Today, No oh, okay they did. NOT i think that they wanted. Money oh, Wow but you were, knowledgeable you were on.
00:44:35
Speaker 4: It i'm, saying, YEAH i, mean was it see through WHEN i got? Wet it was somehow it suggested that that you're seeing a lot because of the nature of that.
00:44:46
Speaker 1: Chiffon, yes and then it did get wet and you had nude, color so that they were perceiving that as.
00:44:53
Speaker 2: Skin but you were, like, yeah, NO i was wearing that.
00:44:55
Speaker 3: Song, yeah of COURSE i. WAS i Call sabella, definitely yes and coming right.
00:45:01
Speaker 1: Now changed my, Life, pat and you have forever changed my life in any. Way.
00:45:09
Speaker 4: SABELLA i was, Like i'd never worn anything like that in my. Life i'd only ever worn Like carter's. Underwear no.
00:45:14
Speaker 3: Way and then.
00:45:15
Speaker 4: Eventually Calvin klein when we also didn't line Up bloomingdale's when they came out those, BRAS i was it was the men's brief THAT i was, like well, you, YES i.
00:45:24
Speaker 2: Never could pull that. OFF i.
00:45:25
Speaker 1: Couldn't, NO i could. NOT i could not. SEND i saw you were The cosabella. CONNECTION i did Know pat would put.
00:45:32
Speaker 4: You she said there was a there was a lingerie shop On university BETWEEN i think ninth and tenth on the east side of the street that had beautiful. BRAS i think they Had, marquette oh And. Cosabella they were it's not ge, strings, RIGHT i.
00:45:53
Speaker 1: Think in the beginning mine WAS g, strings maybe because there were somewhere they had just skinny met mesh at the, back but then they went to just a.
00:46:02
Speaker 4: String oh, no, no no, NO i didn't wear, Those oh, no, no, no, no, no, no you gotta draw the.
00:46:06
Speaker 2: LINE i love it that we draw the line.
00:46:09
Speaker 1: Anywhere, okay wait this is my last, one BUT i have to talk about the door for a.
00:46:13
Speaker 3: Second, yeah the dress is. Amazing the.
00:46:16
Speaker 2: Dream now there's this whole drama.
00:46:19
Speaker 1: THAT i did text you, about, yes where it's unclear if there's one dress or two dresses where they, live.
00:46:25
Speaker 4: So they live it dere door has. Them they had it back right. Away we never had the door dress got it so that when we had to borrow it for and just like, that we think it wasn't the same dress, Anyway god that the print might not have been the exact.
00:46:41
Speaker 3: Same, yes but that is one of the dresses that we returned. Immediately WHAT i love about that dress is.
00:46:52
Speaker 4: The way we got to shoot it On Park. AVENUE i think she's Crossing park avenueater is out in culture. Slow how to use that camera that was that long lens and that see that's like the ways in which we you, know could we have imagined? It, no because really nobody, else even Even law And, order which was really, cool like they were showing a city and shooting it like a. Movie for, sure was one camera, cinema but it was very, different very. Different, yeah and a, procedural so they had things they had to, do and those are kind of, rules like it's, like if you're going to make a seven yearl, blog you have to use a grape a certain. Grape but we didn't have any of those. Rules and so all these guys that were using the camera really really, WELL i mean kind Of charles McDougal and just.
00:47:45
Speaker 2: Say Alan, Taylor Allen, Coulter.
00:47:47
Speaker 4: Yeah Alan coulter loved that. Camera love that freaking. Camera and the camera crew became so important in our show like they were. Superstars they were they really were. Revered you, know our sound mixer always revered because the ways in which they had to hide mics ANDJ tj And kim oh, yes.
00:48:09
Speaker 2: Oh the mics and crazy places you.
00:48:11
Speaker 4: Guys, anyway that shot with The dior dress was kind of like you pick a dress for that, reason but we didn't know what the camera could do with. It and when we allowed all that traffic to pass and all the pedestrians and where it was in the, story like what it was doing to support the story is just you, know and the hair was like really wild and the carry, necklace so that it's like it just all was like hand in. Glove, yes, yeah and that's And i'm glad it was that dressed.
00:48:40
Speaker 2: Way oh my, god me.
00:48:42
Speaker 1: Too, yeah that's the joy when you look back and it to. ME i, MEAN i knew intellectually that we were doing something, different AND i KNEW i loved it so much, obviously BUT i didn't understand everything that you just said at the. Time, Right so looking back on it and also like, it it's incredibly, cinematic like in a very different it breaks molds of all, kinds.
00:49:03
Speaker 3: RIGHT i tell.
00:49:04
Speaker 4: You one other quick thing is that there was there used to be in The New York times a supplement that WASN'T i think you'll remember this and a lot Of New york as. Well but it was A tv guy and it was a decent. Size it was big like, this and it was THE tv shows for the, week including YOUR vhs numbers to program in so you could tape a. Show and we were on the cover of THE tv of The New York TIMES tv guide and it was a picture That craig had shot that we've been looking at. Recently and it's kind of an ugly. Dress it's like a mustard ocre colored. Dress she's wearing like A bordeaux colored leather. Jacket she's leaving someplace, where some guy's apartment where she couldn't find her, stuff or she had spent the night. Someplace and, interesting it's not a really pretty she's got like a kind of crocheted. Green none of it is really. Pretty it's a picture That craig.
00:50:02
Speaker 2: Shot who was our, Unit, blankenhorn someone.
00:50:05
Speaker 3: Who's just so, gifted. Brilliant and WHEN i saw that, PICTURE i was so.
00:50:12
Speaker 4: Excited first of, all that The New York times had picked us to be because you know That New York times. Dream but the picture That craig took was from far away and kind of, high SO i think maybe there were a leaf fall, something there's some atmospheric. Thing it's lower fifth the camera pulls way. Back and WHEN i saw, that in my head and in my, HEART.
00:50:37
Speaker 3: I was, like, well that's what we're. Doing, okay that's what we're.
00:50:41
Speaker 4: Doing interesting because you could kind of feel the, Camera but if you weren't looking at everything all the, time you. Wouldn't you don't know it in the same. Way but that picture Of craig's telling me what we were. Doing, YES i was really proud of what the crew was able to pull on to, create like portraits and the tableaus that that they were.
00:51:06
Speaker 2: DOING i just thought of one thing when you talked about the.
00:51:08
Speaker 1: LEAF i hope it's okay IF i ask you one more, question because it's something that you just don't know the answer, to and we're coming up to it in the. Rewatch, okay do you remember after nine to eleven you And willie went out on the street.
00:51:21
Speaker 3: We, shot we.
00:51:22
Speaker 4: SHOT i was in A Vivian westwood, dress, yes And Vanola blank shoes and we were shooting by what is now A. Pc, yes it was a restaurant at the, time and we shot a whole scene and we have pictures of that. Scene that scene was cut AND i don't. Remember you, know who will know.
00:51:47
Speaker 2: That Michael patrick can't have all.
00:51:49
Speaker 3: The answers because it was On perry and West. Forth.
00:51:52
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah so we're probably shooting other scenes that day At carrie's.
00:51:56
Speaker 1: Stoop it doesn't, Exist and this is WHY i was unshure.
00:52:00
Speaker 3: It must have been part of the scenes that was, it part of.
00:52:05
Speaker 4: Which is post nine, eleven which has before the monologue she has about when he goes off TO. Napa she has that very prophetic monologue about saying that.
00:52:16
Speaker 1: Before, CORRECT, ireq that's what's. INSANE i think that also threw me. Irect everyone thinks that we filmed that, after but we did. Not we filmed it, before which is Just Michael patrick being.
00:52:26
Speaker 4: Prescient because When september eleventh happened AND i realized WHAT i had, SAID i said To Michael, patrick we're going to use. It he, said, yeah, absolutely he, said it's so, yeah so. Amazing that scene With willy got me And willy.
00:52:48
Speaker 2: Would have been in.
00:52:49
Speaker 3: That in that one cut you'll Have Michael patrick will know.
00:52:52
Speaker 2: Exactly which this makes. Sense this is sense because for, me it's, sure it's just. Beautiful the pictures are. Beautiful it's so.
00:53:00
Speaker 3: Beautiful IT'S i know that dress was.
00:53:02
Speaker 2: Amazing so Good, yeah, good, okay, Cool there's so.
00:53:06
Speaker 4: MANY i don't. Know we barely scratch the. SURFACE i know we.
00:53:12
Speaker 2: SURFACE i know you when you, RING i know you.
00:53:16
Speaker 3: ARE i mean it overstep my you're.
00:53:19
Speaker 4: Not let me say on the record right, now if you don't ask, ME i would be. Hurt and IF i can do, It i'll be.
00:53:28
Speaker 3: Here. BABY i have one more.
00:53:29
Speaker 4: OUTFIT i think you will have a similar shirt as you will.
00:53:36
Speaker 3: Know love, it love, it love, it love.
00:53:37
Speaker 2: IT i know the shirt, well, well great BECAUSE i have other.
00:53:40
Speaker 3: THINGS i have so many to. See you will see. You we're going to be around and available for a while.
00:53:46
Speaker 1: Long fantastic because we Miss cynthia this time because she's because you need to come back for. Sin, okay it was so great that when you come back on, yesterday shoot and the three of us will have a.
00:53:56
Speaker 3: Meal oh my, god let's have a meal because we did LAST i, KNOW I i.
00:54:00
Speaker 1: WASN'T i didn't even THINK i was here for the podcast when we had that. Meal oh you weren't here for the.
00:54:04
Speaker 2: PODCAST i don't know what the HELL i was, doing BUT i was. Here it was really.
00:54:07
Speaker 3: Fun okay.
00:54:08
Speaker 4: ME i love, You Christen, DAVIS i love, You, Sarah Jessica, parker my, dream my, angel
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