Sept. 6, 2025
Recovery Run: Not Your Average Chill Week, From the ABBA Museum, to Thrifting Leather Jackets to The Conjuring
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RSS Feed It was fun scheduling in some downtime with half the week in Sweden and the other in NY! Amy and T.J. go through their active recovery this week that included an iconic trip to the ABBA museum.
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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Saturday, September six. It is time for us to take a recovery run. And I never thought that helping myself recover would include going to the Abba Museum in Stockton, Sweden, and with that Stockholm, Stockton, Stockton, California. Right, Yes, very different places. Welcome to this geography edition of Aby at DJ. Yes, we were at Stockholm. I should say. This is what we do to relax. We go run half marathons. That was awesome.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was funny. I was looking at you at one point and look, we were so excited to be in another country and have a change of scenery. But we actually worked every single day and then our one day off where we didn't have to do any recording because we did some ahead of time, we ran a half marathon.
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Speaker 3: It was our day off.
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Speaker 2: That was our day off. And you know what that is something in a way your recovery, because you're getting physically active. Our brains were spent at that point. So I actually really appreciated the run. It was almost a release of pent up energy, I would say. But I was very excited because once we got the half marathon under our belts and we crossed the finish line. I knew exactly what I wanted to do, to celebrate, to unwind and to have a little fun. And I was very, very appreciative of the fact that you were willing to come along for the ride.
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Speaker 3: Uh is that what we say? Appreciative of the fact that I was willing? Is there? You said?
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Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, yes, because it was so the Abba Museum? Is it Abba or Abba? It might be an age old discussion. I have always said Abba, but I have been told I am saying incorrectly it's Abba.
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Speaker 3: Is it American versus Swedish?
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Speaker 2: Is it?
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Speaker 3: Maybe?
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Speaker 2: But however you say it. The band has been with me from my very very beginning. Some of my earliest childhood memories are sitting in front of my dad's stereo and singing along to Abba music.
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Speaker 3: And I just learned on this trip that Abba is made up of two men and two women in a band from Sweden. I didn't know that I heard of them, and I Mama Mia, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well that's yes. That is a Broadway musical slash movie that is basically compiled compiling all or many of ABBA's greatest hits.
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Speaker 3: Waiting. There's not a song called Mama Mia.
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Speaker 2: Well there is a song called and it was them, right, yes, okay, okay, Mama Mia.
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Speaker 3: Yes that thing, yes, the other one. Now, I didn't know this was theirs Dancing Queen.
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Speaker 2: You didn't know Dancing Queen was I did not.
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Speaker 3: Know that at all. But I like that song. Some of their stuff was a little quirkier. That one seemed more in the lane of disco. Something that's the Winner Takes it All? You know, No, it's.
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Speaker 2: Has to fall.
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Speaker 3: No, you don't know Broadway.
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Speaker 2: No, it's their song, but Winner Takes it All.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I never heard that.
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Speaker 2: I love that song. They have so many good ones this Fernando.
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Speaker 3: Uh no, give me another one. I would know.
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Speaker 2: I think as far as what you would know.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's really it's old mainstream that everybody would know this Abba song.
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Speaker 2: What would it be trying to see what?
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Speaker 3: Because it's one of those things that when I hear something, I say, oh, I recognize that song, But then I have no idea who's singing the thing?
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Speaker 2: All right? What about so os?
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Speaker 3: You know what?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: No, no, what is the.
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Speaker 2: Most listened to? Abasan? Okay, Dancing Queen and Fernando don't know they had a dozen top forty hits and scored. Yeah, so this is twenty five top forty hits in the nineteen of the top ten. All right, I'm gonna get of course. Now I'm having a hard time pulling.
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Speaker 3: Them all out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's clearly not working so well for me.
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Speaker 3: Take a chance on me. I know that he is your brother, Ring Ring Hastamanana, Mama Mia, another town, another train, bang a boomerang.
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Speaker 2: Here's a fun fact. Mama Mia knocked Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody off number one. That's pretty impressive. And that is the one. You know. Gimme, gimme, gimmey a man after midnight.
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Speaker 3: You know that one, knowing me, knowing you.
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Speaker 2: Knowing me.
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Speaker 3: Take a chance on me, take a chance on lay on me.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, super super I have a dream.
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Speaker 3: The winner takes it all.
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Speaker 2: Money, money takes money.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, give me gimmey gimmy, Yeah, the man. Does your mother know one of us? The name of the game. Thank you for the music and water Waterloo. That's nineteen songs we just listed. I have heard of two of them. That's just dancing Queen and Mama Mia.
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Speaker 2: Do you know what I actually learned in the Appa Museum that I didn't know so, and I think maybe I had heard something about it, but I didn't really know that. Two of the men in the ABBA group, we learned their names Lars and Benny.
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Speaker 3: Bennie and something, Benny and Bjorn.
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Speaker 2: I just picked another random sweet he was he was the fifth member that is just not mentioned very often, joking, Okay, it was Benny and Bijorn. They went on. They did obviously some Broadway musicals with Mama Mia, but they went on to contribute to writing Chess, which is one of these deep cuts for a lot of folks who maybe aren't huge Broadway fans. But oh my goodness, when I was in high school and college, I listened to that at nauseum. It is some of my favorite Broadway music. And to know that, of course one of my favorite rock bands, disco bands, whatever you want to call them, contributed to that musical. I would say disco rock pop. It kind of fits all of that.
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Speaker 3: They're so wildly Swedish, which I certainly understand better now by spending some time in stock Home for the week plus that we did. But going to the museum, no surprise here didn't see another black person for two hours. Now, Don't get me wrong, Sweden is not the most diverse place when it comes to uh seen black folks all around. But I'm in a very white place, and you took me to the whitest place within that white place. It was love.
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Speaker 2: Do you have fun?
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Speaker 3: I had? All the people watching was unbelievable. I had a blast walking through there.
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Speaker 2: There was a line that it was raining, stretched all the way out from underneath the protection from the rain all the way and you were just amazed that people were standing in these lines waiting to get into the Abba Museum. So that was amazing. And then the other fun recovery that we were able to pull off while we were in Stockholm was going to a place. I could never say it in Swedish, but it translates to the Feather Islands and it was just this cool little island that you take a ferry to. And you were cracking me up because you love Sweden, but you weren't a fan of the weather, and I get that. It's it was basically like we were cheering if the sun peeked out for a little while, but mostly it was in this it was like I think the high way sixty eight, but it was like feels like sixty one.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was that kind of situation.
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Speaker 2: And then it never really got that cold at night, but it was just always kind of gray, overcast, a little bit of spotty rain, and just it was romantic and dramatic.
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Speaker 3: We never had a jeans or shorts and T shirt day. We never even had really a shorts and long sleeve T shirt day, and most of the days were sweater plus jacket days there. And I said to you, Stockholm, I absolutely loved it. Stockholm is my favorite city I have ever been to that I never want to go to again.
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Speaker 2: Because you don't like cold weather, the.
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Speaker 3: Weather I can't. Yeah, and we went in the hottest month, did.
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Speaker 2: We not, Yes, July and August are the two hottest months and so and really the average high for both of those months is sixty eight. I will say that I don't mind colder weather, and I don't mind that's fall like weather. But there is something when you're on summer vacation and it doesn't feel like summer day, there's a little bit of a mind grap like you kind of think, ooh, just how much better would this be if it was ten degrees warmer.
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Speaker 3: What do I tell you there is no such thing as a vacation If I need a coat while I'm.
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Speaker 2: There, Yes, and so I guess well. And we also worked in run a half marathon. So I think you could pretty much say this was just a fun, amazing change of scenery.
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Speaker 3: Something from us. We're sitting here telling people how we recover, and it sounds exhausting, that is true, but.
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Speaker 2: It was amazing. And I was laughing at your reaction to this specific island because how cute was it. Can you describe how cute and amazing? And there was so much outside seating, It was sweeping views, gorgeous architecture, quaint as hell, cute restaurants.
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Speaker 3: It seemed like a place that Santa Claus with vacation, like it would be his summer place.
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Speaker 2: That's actually a really good way to no.
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Speaker 3: Way way to put it, because it was a little cool, but it was sixty eight. You know it's sixty You know Santa doesn't want it too warm, but this was a little warmer than he's used to kind of a place, and it was chill, and you could nobody's gonna know your name, and you can have all kinds of privacy, but they had laid out some of the best, like lakeside or excuse me, this was the Baltic seat. When are we talking about? This was like waterside dining, and the views were unbelievable. It was wonderful, glooming in sixty two. This is what it was. I think, I said, I said, wow, we should have gotten married here. It was that kind of special place that I saw. And the food was unbelievable.
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Speaker 2: That food was amazing.
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Speaker 3: I still remember that waitress. It was wonderful. Everything was great.
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Speaker 4: You said, what a waste, because you said you looked around because there was like the most amazing seats that were positioned everywhere, and they were all empty because.
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Speaker 2: It was too cold to sit outside, and so you just looked around and you said, what a waste. This is so gorgeous. Why can't it just be warmer? You said, if it was warmer, you would come back once a year.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, gets close enough. Nine hours. I mean you can handle it. If you go for a week, I would. I would love to go back. I told you. It reminded me of Frankly, the Hamptons. It reminded me of montak where you can still it's chill, and it's got enough going on, but it still has a chill, almost a surfer town vibe. And this is a major metropolitan city that just had a chillness to it. I love it and I will never go back.
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Speaker 2: Something else that's funny. Something else that wasn't lost on us that I do think helped us recover while we were working and while we were running, is that everyone is so damn polite. There were no I did not hear one honking of a horn in a major city. I did not hear any noise. They're quiet, they're not loud. I mean, if you there were not that many Americans there, but when there were Americans there, you could hear them a mile away. Because the Swedes are so quiet, so respectful, so polite.
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Speaker 3: And orderly and just rule followers, and there is regiment here. And I was love now that part. I'm telling you. I love this place. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And the architecture is stunning. There was not one piece of trash anywhere. Did you see litter anywhere? Did you see graffiti anywhere? That was remarkable to me. And maybe it's just because we live in New York and we're so aware of graffiti and trash and honking horns and sirens and loud, obnoxious people and rude people. Everyone was basically the opposite of New York.
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Speaker 3: And you know what, you all we talk here about New York congestion traffic. You know how compact Manhattan is. They most of their traffic is people on bicycles. They have a bike culture there that's comparable to Rome's scooter culture, if you will. Most of the people are on bikes. And to see them in these fairly wide bike lanes coming, I mean we're not talking random few people. They are bunched in like track like cars, and they are orderly, they are polite, there are no issues.
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Speaker 2: Places great and there is one woman had three kids with her on a bike. It was impressive as hell. It looked like the Tour de France to me because they.
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Speaker 3: Were all bunched up so.
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Speaker 2: And I just thought, how is no one getting in an accident? How is no one yelling at someone someone cut them off? Even the bike. No one was ringing their bike belts. It was I was we actually, I think our jaws were dropped watching the process happen every rush hour.
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Speaker 3: I love love Stockholm and it's a weird thing to say I love a place so much and don't want to go back because of that thing. Please, I'm not knocking you all of Stockholm. Then they could do about your weather. It's just I am a different blooded person.
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Speaker 2: So the other thing we did to recover and I love this is one of my favorite things that we share a passion for shopping. And you got another leather coats.
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Speaker 3: I gotta stop because has a stop.
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Speaker 2: So did I. By the way, full admission, I didn't need one either. But there's a big thrifting community there and all of these stores are secondhand stores. We walked in and you know sometimes when you go my kids love to thrift, there is a smell that just lingers in some of these stores and it's a little bit of a turn off for me. You walked in these places smelled amazing, They were curated perfectly. They even had the colors all in like rainbow where it just you wanted to go in and see what you could find. I've never had more luck, or at least more excitement going into a secondhand store, but they have. They're lined with that.
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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, and I didn't think about this till right now you walk into the store and don't realize it for five minutes that you're in a secondhand store. They're that nice.
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Speaker 2: That's pretty impressive.
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Speaker 3: If they are so nice. But yeah, every time we go somewhere to Europe, and yeah we were in Italy last time, we hit Florence. But God's sake, so leather jackets, leather everywhere. I obviously ride a motorcycle a lot of people know, so I have a certainly collection of motorcycle jackets. I do not need another leather jacket. I have every variety you can think of. And sure enough we get there, how many two?
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Speaker 2: One you bought two? You bought two more leather jackets. And actually the prices were amazing because they were secondhands, so you weren't spending tons of money. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: No, the brown one, though.
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Speaker 2: Was it a little bit more, a little bit more. But the one that you got second hand was one hundred and twenty dollars. Yeah, and it was gorgeous, fantastic.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let y'all see it, y'all gonna.
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Speaker 2: You even said to me, please talk me out of this robes, and I said I can't. I'm sorry, I'm not your girl. When it comes to that, I can't talk you out of it.
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Speaker 3: I'm begging anybody please. I don't need it. I don't need but it's uh. That is always fun. And that was another good part in the part I Love of Stockholm. Never go back, never going back?
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Speaker 2: All right, So when we come back, we'll tell you how we recovered after our nine hour flight and I think twenty two hours, twenty three hours straight of not sleeping, and how we found a way to recover for the rest of our week. Welcome back to this edition of Well. I guess it's a Saturday morning run. It's our recovery run. But we talk about what we did to relax, to enjoy, to be intentional about doing something other than work, which is actually a huge It's a tough thing for us to schedule in and I think that's for a lot of folks. It's hard sometimes to make a priority of fun. And we've been really trying to do that even while we're working, even when we're in different locations, to say, hey, enough work, let's go do something where we can actually enjoy ourselves and relax. I think that's important in life.
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Speaker 3: It's harder for us now I say it's harder because it's easier. I say it's easier that we have the equipment, we can travel anywhere, we can podcast from anywhere in the world. That's awesome, but it also means we can podcast from anywhere in the world, so no matter where we are, we have no.
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Speaker 2: Excuse, right, and so we end up working. But this is why it's so important to find that time to wind down. And so yes, if you've been listening to our podcast this week, you'll know by now that one of the first things we did on a day where we had really bad sleep scores because of the travel back, we decided to extend our day, stay up even later and go relax and watch a horror movie. And not just any horror movie. We went to go see The Conjuring, the Final Installment, The Conjuring, the Last Rite.
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Speaker 3: I cannot believe we went and did this. We were exhausted, We were actually really really exhausted, and we debated, I think all we didn't decide what till four o'clock to go to a six thirty movie, and we talked about it all day and we finally I think it was me. I'm tired of talking about it, book the ticket.
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Speaker 2: You absolutely made the call because I was leaning towards maybe doing it on another day, and you said, we've been excited about this movie for months now, this is its opening preview night, and we said we were going to go. Let's go, so we did.
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Speaker 3: You know, what, how do you handle that? Because we deal with this and a lot of people do. Where do you what's the balance doing sacrificing because you said so many times we have to prioritize sleep, write that we have this debate in this fight all the time, if you will, like, Okay, sleep is important, but man, this thing over here is what we really want to do. How do you always how do we end up finding that balance? And which way do we end up going? Because I know you are always on board with opportunity, this and experience. Let's go.
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Speaker 2: Yes, So it's that whole notion. I'll sleep when I'm dead. But I also know how important I feel like, especially as I get older, for me to have a better active life, for me to feel better while I'm doing fun things, I really need to prioritize sleep. And now I think it's the thing, especially Americans, where we almost take pride in our few hours of sleep. See how busy I was, See how active I was, See how productive I was. But I don't want to be that person because I used to be that person. Hell, I used to brag that I didn't take my vacation days.
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Speaker 3: This feels pretty stupid now.
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Speaker 2: That is the dumbest thing I ever did in my life. And when anyone asked me for advice when they're starting out, I always say, take all your vacation days. Although hilariously enough, I don't feel like this new generation needs that advice. They're really good on that. But is that me just sounding like an old bitter person.
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Speaker 3: No, we've heard those stories, and look there's a let's not get into that we did that episode later because we could go off on a tangent on that. I'm glad we made the call we did. We were afraid we were going to fall asleep in the movie theater, and sure enough it turned out to be a wonderful experience the whole night. I don't know that was a really I'm so glad we did that last night. That was a highlight. I am glad we made that call.
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Speaker 2: I am very happy we did it too. And I have to tell you night. Yeah, Thursday night, it had it. Actually I had a hard time. I had to wind down to try and go to sleep even though I was tired, because I was so hyped up on seeing that movie. That's how good it was. But the other thing, so this is Saturday morning, and it is nice to have a plan on the weekend to do something fun, to do something you love, to relax and we are in the season college football, so that is going to be our relaxing. Our I guess our way to have some fun and to chill this weekend is college football. Go Dogs, go hogs. We're very excited about the season. Fall is the best time of year for a lot of reasons, but definitely because college football has begun.
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Speaker 3: Okay, you made me feel when we start these sometimes like wow, we didn't do enough to actually prioritize ourselves, our health, our sleep, our relationship. And then I started talking to you about like, oh, wow, we actually did and then I end up, Okay, maybe we're not doing so bad. What was the line what's the thame of the book? Kabby Beurnstein said, she gave us a type. We're working on it. We're working on it, and we are it seems like every week. Sometimes we don't do it consciously, but we are working on it, and so I'm as busy as it was, and we got it all done. But I had a last with you this week, and certainly the movie and running thirteen.
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Speaker 2: Well, we always appreciate you running with us, whether it's a recovery run or Monday through Friday. But thank you as always for listening to us. Everybody. I made me Roeboch alongside TJ. Holmes, have a great, relaxing and fun weekend.
Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Saturday, September six. It is time for us to take a recovery run. And I never thought that helping myself recover would include going to the Abba Museum in Stockton, Sweden, and with that Stockholm, Stockton, Stockton, California. Right, Yes, very different places. Welcome to this geography edition of Aby at DJ. Yes, we were at Stockholm. I should say. This is what we do to relax. We go run half marathons. That was awesome.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was funny. I was looking at you at one point and look, we were so excited to be in another country and have a change of scenery. But we actually worked every single day and then our one day off where we didn't have to do any recording because we did some ahead of time, we ran a half marathon.
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Speaker 3: It was our day off.
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Speaker 2: That was our day off. And you know what that is something in a way your recovery, because you're getting physically active. Our brains were spent at that point. So I actually really appreciated the run. It was almost a release of pent up energy, I would say. But I was very excited because once we got the half marathon under our belts and we crossed the finish line. I knew exactly what I wanted to do, to celebrate, to unwind and to have a little fun. And I was very, very appreciative of the fact that you were willing to come along for the ride.
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Speaker 3: Uh is that what we say? Appreciative of the fact that I was willing? Is there? You said?
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Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, yes, because it was so the Abba Museum? Is it Abba or Abba? It might be an age old discussion. I have always said Abba, but I have been told I am saying incorrectly it's Abba.
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Speaker 3: Is it American versus Swedish?
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Speaker 2: Is it?
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Speaker 3: Maybe?
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Speaker 2: But however you say it. The band has been with me from my very very beginning. Some of my earliest childhood memories are sitting in front of my dad's stereo and singing along to Abba music.
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Speaker 3: And I just learned on this trip that Abba is made up of two men and two women in a band from Sweden. I didn't know that I heard of them, and I Mama Mia, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well that's yes. That is a Broadway musical slash movie that is basically compiled compiling all or many of ABBA's greatest hits.
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Speaker 3: Waiting. There's not a song called Mama Mia.
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Speaker 2: Well there is a song called and it was them, right, yes, okay, okay, Mama Mia.
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Speaker 3: Yes that thing, yes, the other one. Now, I didn't know this was theirs Dancing Queen.
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Speaker 2: You didn't know Dancing Queen was I did not.
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Speaker 3: Know that at all. But I like that song. Some of their stuff was a little quirkier. That one seemed more in the lane of disco. Something that's the Winner Takes it All? You know, No, it's.
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Speaker 2: Has to fall.
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Speaker 3: No, you don't know Broadway.
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Speaker 2: No, it's their song, but Winner Takes it All.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I never heard that.
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Speaker 2: I love that song. They have so many good ones this Fernando.
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Speaker 3: Uh no, give me another one. I would know.
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Speaker 2: I think as far as what you would know.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's really it's old mainstream that everybody would know this Abba song.
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Speaker 2: What would it be trying to see what?
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Speaker 3: Because it's one of those things that when I hear something, I say, oh, I recognize that song, But then I have no idea who's singing the thing?
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Speaker 2: All right? What about so os?
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Speaker 3: You know what?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: No, no, what is the.
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Speaker 2: Most listened to? Abasan? Okay, Dancing Queen and Fernando don't know they had a dozen top forty hits and scored. Yeah, so this is twenty five top forty hits in the nineteen of the top ten. All right, I'm gonna get of course. Now I'm having a hard time pulling.
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Speaker 3: Them all out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's clearly not working so well for me.
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Speaker 3: Take a chance on me. I know that he is your brother, Ring Ring Hastamanana, Mama Mia, another town, another train, bang a boomerang.
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Speaker 2: Here's a fun fact. Mama Mia knocked Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody off number one. That's pretty impressive. And that is the one. You know. Gimme, gimme, gimmey a man after midnight.
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Speaker 3: You know that one, knowing me, knowing you.
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Speaker 2: Knowing me.
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Speaker 3: Take a chance on me, take a chance on lay on me.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, super super I have a dream.
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Speaker 3: The winner takes it all.
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Speaker 2: Money, money takes money.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, give me gimmey gimmy, Yeah, the man. Does your mother know one of us? The name of the game. Thank you for the music and water Waterloo. That's nineteen songs we just listed. I have heard of two of them. That's just dancing Queen and Mama Mia.
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Speaker 2: Do you know what I actually learned in the Appa Museum that I didn't know so, and I think maybe I had heard something about it, but I didn't really know that. Two of the men in the ABBA group, we learned their names Lars and Benny.
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Speaker 3: Bennie and something, Benny and Bjorn.
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Speaker 2: I just picked another random sweet he was he was the fifth member that is just not mentioned very often, joking, Okay, it was Benny and Bijorn. They went on. They did obviously some Broadway musicals with Mama Mia, but they went on to contribute to writing Chess, which is one of these deep cuts for a lot of folks who maybe aren't huge Broadway fans. But oh my goodness, when I was in high school and college, I listened to that at nauseum. It is some of my favorite Broadway music. And to know that, of course one of my favorite rock bands, disco bands, whatever you want to call them, contributed to that musical. I would say disco rock pop. It kind of fits all of that.
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Speaker 3: They're so wildly Swedish, which I certainly understand better now by spending some time in stock Home for the week plus that we did. But going to the museum, no surprise here didn't see another black person for two hours. Now, Don't get me wrong, Sweden is not the most diverse place when it comes to uh seen black folks all around. But I'm in a very white place, and you took me to the whitest place within that white place. It was love.
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Speaker 2: Do you have fun?
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Speaker 3: I had? All the people watching was unbelievable. I had a blast walking through there.
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Speaker 2: There was a line that it was raining, stretched all the way out from underneath the protection from the rain all the way and you were just amazed that people were standing in these lines waiting to get into the Abba Museum. So that was amazing. And then the other fun recovery that we were able to pull off while we were in Stockholm was going to a place. I could never say it in Swedish, but it translates to the Feather Islands and it was just this cool little island that you take a ferry to. And you were cracking me up because you love Sweden, but you weren't a fan of the weather, and I get that. It's it was basically like we were cheering if the sun peeked out for a little while, but mostly it was in this it was like I think the high way sixty eight, but it was like feels like sixty one.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was that kind of situation.
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Speaker 2: And then it never really got that cold at night, but it was just always kind of gray, overcast, a little bit of spotty rain, and just it was romantic and dramatic.
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Speaker 3: We never had a jeans or shorts and T shirt day. We never even had really a shorts and long sleeve T shirt day, and most of the days were sweater plus jacket days there. And I said to you, Stockholm, I absolutely loved it. Stockholm is my favorite city I have ever been to that I never want to go to again.
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Speaker 2: Because you don't like cold weather, the.
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Speaker 3: Weather I can't. Yeah, and we went in the hottest month, did.
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Speaker 2: We not, Yes, July and August are the two hottest months and so and really the average high for both of those months is sixty eight. I will say that I don't mind colder weather, and I don't mind that's fall like weather. But there is something when you're on summer vacation and it doesn't feel like summer day, there's a little bit of a mind grap like you kind of think, ooh, just how much better would this be if it was ten degrees warmer.
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Speaker 3: What do I tell you there is no such thing as a vacation If I need a coat while I'm.
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Speaker 2: There, Yes, and so I guess well. And we also worked in run a half marathon. So I think you could pretty much say this was just a fun, amazing change of scenery.
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Speaker 3: Something from us. We're sitting here telling people how we recover, and it sounds exhausting, that is true, but.
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Speaker 2: It was amazing. And I was laughing at your reaction to this specific island because how cute was it. Can you describe how cute and amazing? And there was so much outside seating, It was sweeping views, gorgeous architecture, quaint as hell, cute restaurants.
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Speaker 3: It seemed like a place that Santa Claus with vacation, like it would be his summer place.
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Speaker 2: That's actually a really good way to no.
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Speaker 3: Way way to put it, because it was a little cool, but it was sixty eight. You know it's sixty You know Santa doesn't want it too warm, but this was a little warmer than he's used to kind of a place, and it was chill, and you could nobody's gonna know your name, and you can have all kinds of privacy, but they had laid out some of the best, like lakeside or excuse me, this was the Baltic seat. When are we talking about? This was like waterside dining, and the views were unbelievable. It was wonderful, glooming in sixty two. This is what it was. I think, I said, I said, wow, we should have gotten married here. It was that kind of special place that I saw. And the food was unbelievable.
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Speaker 2: That food was amazing.
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Speaker 3: I still remember that waitress. It was wonderful. Everything was great.
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Speaker 4: You said, what a waste, because you said you looked around because there was like the most amazing seats that were positioned everywhere, and they were all empty because.
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Speaker 2: It was too cold to sit outside, and so you just looked around and you said, what a waste. This is so gorgeous. Why can't it just be warmer? You said, if it was warmer, you would come back once a year.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, gets close enough. Nine hours. I mean you can handle it. If you go for a week, I would. I would love to go back. I told you. It reminded me of Frankly, the Hamptons. It reminded me of montak where you can still it's chill, and it's got enough going on, but it still has a chill, almost a surfer town vibe. And this is a major metropolitan city that just had a chillness to it. I love it and I will never go back.
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Speaker 2: Something else that's funny. Something else that wasn't lost on us that I do think helped us recover while we were working and while we were running, is that everyone is so damn polite. There were no I did not hear one honking of a horn in a major city. I did not hear any noise. They're quiet, they're not loud. I mean, if you there were not that many Americans there, but when there were Americans there, you could hear them a mile away. Because the Swedes are so quiet, so respectful, so polite.
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Speaker 3: And orderly and just rule followers, and there is regiment here. And I was love now that part. I'm telling you. I love this place. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And the architecture is stunning. There was not one piece of trash anywhere. Did you see litter anywhere? Did you see graffiti anywhere? That was remarkable to me. And maybe it's just because we live in New York and we're so aware of graffiti and trash and honking horns and sirens and loud, obnoxious people and rude people. Everyone was basically the opposite of New York.
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Speaker 3: And you know what, you all we talk here about New York congestion traffic. You know how compact Manhattan is. They most of their traffic is people on bicycles. They have a bike culture there that's comparable to Rome's scooter culture, if you will. Most of the people are on bikes. And to see them in these fairly wide bike lanes coming, I mean we're not talking random few people. They are bunched in like track like cars, and they are orderly, they are polite, there are no issues.
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Speaker 2: Places great and there is one woman had three kids with her on a bike. It was impressive as hell. It looked like the Tour de France to me because they.
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Speaker 3: Were all bunched up so.
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Speaker 2: And I just thought, how is no one getting in an accident? How is no one yelling at someone someone cut them off? Even the bike. No one was ringing their bike belts. It was I was we actually, I think our jaws were dropped watching the process happen every rush hour.
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Speaker 3: I love love Stockholm and it's a weird thing to say I love a place so much and don't want to go back because of that thing. Please, I'm not knocking you all of Stockholm. Then they could do about your weather. It's just I am a different blooded person.
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Speaker 2: So the other thing we did to recover and I love this is one of my favorite things that we share a passion for shopping. And you got another leather coats.
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Speaker 3: I gotta stop because has a stop.
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Speaker 2: So did I. By the way, full admission, I didn't need one either. But there's a big thrifting community there and all of these stores are secondhand stores. We walked in and you know sometimes when you go my kids love to thrift, there is a smell that just lingers in some of these stores and it's a little bit of a turn off for me. You walked in these places smelled amazing, They were curated perfectly. They even had the colors all in like rainbow where it just you wanted to go in and see what you could find. I've never had more luck, or at least more excitement going into a secondhand store, but they have. They're lined with that.
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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, and I didn't think about this till right now you walk into the store and don't realize it for five minutes that you're in a secondhand store. They're that nice.
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Speaker 2: That's pretty impressive.
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Speaker 3: If they are so nice. But yeah, every time we go somewhere to Europe, and yeah we were in Italy last time, we hit Florence. But God's sake, so leather jackets, leather everywhere. I obviously ride a motorcycle a lot of people know, so I have a certainly collection of motorcycle jackets. I do not need another leather jacket. I have every variety you can think of. And sure enough we get there, how many two?
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Speaker 2: One you bought two? You bought two more leather jackets. And actually the prices were amazing because they were secondhands, so you weren't spending tons of money. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: No, the brown one, though.
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Speaker 2: Was it a little bit more, a little bit more. But the one that you got second hand was one hundred and twenty dollars. Yeah, and it was gorgeous, fantastic.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let y'all see it, y'all gonna.
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Speaker 2: You even said to me, please talk me out of this robes, and I said I can't. I'm sorry, I'm not your girl. When it comes to that, I can't talk you out of it.
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Speaker 3: I'm begging anybody please. I don't need it. I don't need but it's uh. That is always fun. And that was another good part in the part I Love of Stockholm. Never go back, never going back?
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Speaker 2: All right, So when we come back, we'll tell you how we recovered after our nine hour flight and I think twenty two hours, twenty three hours straight of not sleeping, and how we found a way to recover for the rest of our week. Welcome back to this edition of Well. I guess it's a Saturday morning run. It's our recovery run. But we talk about what we did to relax, to enjoy, to be intentional about doing something other than work, which is actually a huge It's a tough thing for us to schedule in and I think that's for a lot of folks. It's hard sometimes to make a priority of fun. And we've been really trying to do that even while we're working, even when we're in different locations, to say, hey, enough work, let's go do something where we can actually enjoy ourselves and relax. I think that's important in life.
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Speaker 3: It's harder for us now I say it's harder because it's easier. I say it's easier that we have the equipment, we can travel anywhere, we can podcast from anywhere in the world. That's awesome, but it also means we can podcast from anywhere in the world, so no matter where we are, we have no.
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Speaker 2: Excuse, right, and so we end up working. But this is why it's so important to find that time to wind down. And so yes, if you've been listening to our podcast this week, you'll know by now that one of the first things we did on a day where we had really bad sleep scores because of the travel back, we decided to extend our day, stay up even later and go relax and watch a horror movie. And not just any horror movie. We went to go see The Conjuring, the Final Installment, The Conjuring, the Last Rite.
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Speaker 3: I cannot believe we went and did this. We were exhausted, We were actually really really exhausted, and we debated, I think all we didn't decide what till four o'clock to go to a six thirty movie, and we talked about it all day and we finally I think it was me. I'm tired of talking about it, book the ticket.
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Speaker 2: You absolutely made the call because I was leaning towards maybe doing it on another day, and you said, we've been excited about this movie for months now, this is its opening preview night, and we said we were going to go. Let's go, so we did.
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Speaker 3: You know, what, how do you handle that? Because we deal with this and a lot of people do. Where do you what's the balance doing sacrificing because you said so many times we have to prioritize sleep, write that we have this debate in this fight all the time, if you will, like, Okay, sleep is important, but man, this thing over here is what we really want to do. How do you always how do we end up finding that balance? And which way do we end up going? Because I know you are always on board with opportunity, this and experience. Let's go.
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Speaker 2: Yes, So it's that whole notion. I'll sleep when I'm dead. But I also know how important I feel like, especially as I get older, for me to have a better active life, for me to feel better while I'm doing fun things, I really need to prioritize sleep. And now I think it's the thing, especially Americans, where we almost take pride in our few hours of sleep. See how busy I was, See how active I was, See how productive I was. But I don't want to be that person because I used to be that person. Hell, I used to brag that I didn't take my vacation days.
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Speaker 3: This feels pretty stupid now.
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Speaker 2: That is the dumbest thing I ever did in my life. And when anyone asked me for advice when they're starting out, I always say, take all your vacation days. Although hilariously enough, I don't feel like this new generation needs that advice. They're really good on that. But is that me just sounding like an old bitter person.
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Speaker 3: No, we've heard those stories, and look there's a let's not get into that we did that episode later because we could go off on a tangent on that. I'm glad we made the call we did. We were afraid we were going to fall asleep in the movie theater, and sure enough it turned out to be a wonderful experience the whole night. I don't know that was a really I'm so glad we did that last night. That was a highlight. I am glad we made that call.
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Speaker 2: I am very happy we did it too. And I have to tell you night. Yeah, Thursday night, it had it. Actually I had a hard time. I had to wind down to try and go to sleep even though I was tired, because I was so hyped up on seeing that movie. That's how good it was. But the other thing, so this is Saturday morning, and it is nice to have a plan on the weekend to do something fun, to do something you love, to relax and we are in the season college football, so that is going to be our relaxing. Our I guess our way to have some fun and to chill this weekend is college football. Go Dogs, go hogs. We're very excited about the season. Fall is the best time of year for a lot of reasons, but definitely because college football has begun.
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Speaker 3: Okay, you made me feel when we start these sometimes like wow, we didn't do enough to actually prioritize ourselves, our health, our sleep, our relationship. And then I started talking to you about like, oh, wow, we actually did and then I end up, Okay, maybe we're not doing so bad. What was the line what's the thame of the book? Kabby Beurnstein said, she gave us a type. We're working on it. We're working on it, and we are it seems like every week. Sometimes we don't do it consciously, but we are working on it, and so I'm as busy as it was, and we got it all done. But I had a last with you this week, and certainly the movie and running thirteen.
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Speaker 2: Well, we always appreciate you running with us, whether it's a recovery run or Monday through Friday. But thank you as always for listening to us. Everybody. I made me Roeboch alongside TJ. Holmes, have a great, relaxing and fun weekend.