Oct. 20, 2025
Prince Andrew Loses His Birthright After Epstein Accuser Writes Andrew Acted Like “Having Sex with Me Was his Birthright.”
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RSS Feed Prince Andrew has relinquished his royal titles, he will no longer be called the Duke of York or His Royal Highness, but some believe the Royal Family and even the British Parliament should go further, formally stripping him of those honors. The latest pressure on the Prince comes after emails show Andrew remained in contact with Jeffrey Epstein longer than he admitted, writing “we’re in this together.” Also, the much anticipated posthumous autobiography of Epstein and Prince Andrew accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre comes out this week, where publications with advance copies claim she mentions Andrew more than 80 times in her 400 page book.
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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Monday, October the twentieth and the sixth year. Slow fall from grace for Prince Andrew might be complete after he has now given up all of his royal titles. However, still call him Prince and with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rose. We hear again there's a fascination with his story. This is all Epstein related. But Prince Andrew giving up his royal titles, He's still Prince Andrew though. That's the first thing I think that came to a lot of people's mind. Well, you're not a prince anymore. Well, he is.
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Speaker 2: He that's his birthright by just being born the son of the queen.
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Speaker 3: He is a prince, but he is the hold one of that forever correct.
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Speaker 2: But he is no longer the Duke of York, and he will no longer be referred to as his Royal Highness, And with that he has to relinquish a bunch of other titles and positions that he was given over the years. And most reports have been that this was pressure from the King, and he even admitted discussions with the King, But certainly there has been a lot of mounting public pressure on him over the past six years, and certainly with this book coming out, Virginia Geuphrey's book coming out posthumously tomorrow. A lot of folks, I mean, this conversation has never gone away, but it seems to have reached a fever pitch.
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Speaker 1: This is folks, as you know, Prince Andrew, it is that the name besides Trump, this is a name of the highest profile name. Now, let me be careful and let me say this correctly. There is no one who is accusing President Trump of anything any wrongdoing having to do with any underage.
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Speaker 2: In fact, Virginia Jeffrey, who has obviously made these claims against Epstein and certainly against Prince Andrew, has gone out of her way and went out of her way to praise President Trump.
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Speaker 1: So let me say that, and let us make sure we get that clear. However, he has been dogged by his affiliation with Epstein. Prince Andrew, however, is the other in the highest profile name but Robes. He is accused of criminal wrongdoing.
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Speaker 2: Correct Virginia Giufrey has said repeatedly that she was loaned over to him, so to speak, by Epstein at the age of seventeen, but three specific times, and once when she was seventeen. It was noted that seventeen is the age of consent in the UK, and so was this a crime or not. Regardless, it is not a good look and certainly not anything that the royal family wants to be a part of.
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Speaker 1: Well was once was here in New York at Epstein's place, his private island was another, and then London, I believe was another place she said this took place, and she names Prince Andrew. He hasn't faced any criminal charges related to this, but as far as the public scrutiny being essentially kicked out of the role of family for all intents and purposes, and also the financial settlement, this has dogged and will continue to dog him, and this now robes it's it sounds like another big deal. It sounds like another big whoopie dood that he is no longer going to have these titles. But for all intents and purposes, it's not necessarily going to change the life he's been living the past six years because he already gave up royal duties.
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Speaker 2: Correct, So this is just another form of public humiliation, yes, and that is what this is, a public reckoning so to speak. It doesn't have any actual, yes, real life impact on him, but certainly this is a big deal. And look that he denies all of this, and even with in relinquishing these titles, is still denying any involvement with Virginia Geufrey. And there is a picture that has been around for years now, and it was one that she even actually showed me, but he claims it's a fake, it's not real, but it's fairly undeniable. Anyone who wants to go and look at this picture. He has his arm around her. You see Gilaine Maxwell behind them. Everyone's smiling, but she looks so young.
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Speaker 1: We say, go look at it. Looking with this picture for years now, it's the picture that's always thrown in there. But you have to be said, he has at every turn said he has done absolutely nothing wrong. Now this came back up and there's we're not finding or we're not hearing it as much here in the US. When big things happen with the royal family, it makes headlines over there. It's a headline every single day that they're covering this. And what's happened over there over the past several days is that some yes, you have Virginia Duphra's book coming out. But also we're now that they're actually looking into some wrongdoing. Not the wrongdoing having to do with sexual abuse, but the police over there are now looking into a recent allegation that's come up.
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Speaker 2: That is correct, So they are looking into whether or not Prince Andrew somehow asked a member of the police force to get involved with basically making Virginia Dupray look bad, a smear campaign, so to speak, behind this scenes when he heard she was going to be speaking out and speaking up about his alleged involvement with her and Jeffrey Epstein. And so now because of this new report, it has been confirmed that police over there are in fact investigating whether or not this took place.
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Speaker 1: And again, what punishment might come from that? Nothing? Excuse me, I should say nothing compared to what could come from something like a sexual abuse conviction of being hauled into court for that. But this is still something they're looking into, and it is new, and this is something Her book is coming out tomorrow right because she needs to pray the new book her memoir again, she died in April of this year by suicide, but she mentions as well in the book, at least excerpts we've seen that seems to give some kind of credence to this idea that he was trying to smear her.
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Speaker 3: Correct and she said that in the book.
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Speaker 2: She claims that Prince Andrew's team tried to what she said, higher internet trolls to hassle her online. So that's in addition to perhaps even having a member of his security team, according.
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Speaker 3: To her, smear her behind the scenes. So that's all a part of it. Now.
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Speaker 2: We will probably, I think we definitely will run out and get her book tomorrow when it comes out, But there have been several outlets that have had early release.
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Speaker 3: And they've been able to go through it.
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Speaker 2: And according to one UK paper, in her autobiography autobiography that is released tomorrow that she makes eighty eight separate references to Prince Andrew across the four hundred pages. So he is a huge part of this book and a lot of people are waiting to see what she says, specifically, if there's anything different or more than what we've heard publicly from her before the time of her death.
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Speaker 1: Well, these titles he's giving up again, I only hear him refer to as Prince Andrew. But it's a very big deal over there. He was called the Duke of York. That was a title that was given to him by his late mother, the Queen he is. I'm so or put you on the spot. We can look at our realth quick. He's younger brother of the king. But how much younger is he than the king I can't remember. But Prince Andrew is the younger brother of the king. We talked about the titles that he is essentially giving up there. There's all kinds of titles, and there's a knighthood organization, the oldest order of Knights that he was a part of. He's having to give that up. Yes, that hurts you and that's pride and that's public shaming. But to your point as well you said earlier, Prince, that will not go away. Now the family does want it, the family of Virginia Juphray, they let it be known. Yeah, we want the prince title taken away. I don't know. It would take an act of Parliament and act to charl get that from him as well. But that, like you said, it's his birth right.
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Speaker 2: Yes, so he has now in conjunction with talking with the King is agreed to obviously not use these titles. But as you point out, he retains the dukedom, he retains the title of the Earl of Inverness, the Baron of I'm not gonna say this right, Billlay and the prestigious role as Royal Knight Companion of the Order of the Garter. And so they say that these titles are going to become dormant. He still has them technically, but he's agreed not to use them in any public way or formally. So yes, an Act of Congress it would require for him to be formally officially stripped of these titles. So it is a matter of I guess, a technicality so to speak, on British law. But yeah, we heard from Virginia's family. They say we've actually got the statement from them. We the family of Virginia Roberts Giuffrey, believe that Prince Andrew's decision to give up his titles is vindication for our sister and survivors everywhere. The decisive action is a powerful step forward in our fight to bring Jeffrey Epstein and Galley Maxwell's child sex trafficking network to justice. Further, we believe it is appropriate for King Charles to remove the title of print.
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Speaker 1: Again he is not necessarily allowed to do it on his own, but still it's it's something they want. It's symbolic at this point, he's not going to jail, right, Continue with the humulation, continue to take things away from him that they don't believe he has a right to. Now. We found out about all of this a couple of days ago through a statement from Prince Andrew himself and in a statement in which he once again defended himself and denied any wrongdoing. He said, and I quote, in discussion with the King and my immediate and wider family, we have concluded the continued accusations about me distract from the work of His Majesty and the royal family. I have decided, as I always have to put my duty to my family and country first, I stand by my decision five years ago to stand back from public life. And again, he hasn't been a working royal, which is a big deal. To not be a work His family goes around, doesn't.
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Speaker 2: That's what they do. That's the family business.
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Speaker 1: It is your responsibility. You do have a duty to the royal Now to make it sound as if it sounded noble.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, So that's what people have been saying that it's allowing him by not having the King or Parliament or whomever strip him of these titles and allow him to offer to give them up, gives him an opportunity to claim that he's acted honorably, as.
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Speaker 1: Crazy as it sounds, and saving some fight face.
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Speaker 2: Yes, because now he is defending the monarchy by falling on a sword, so he looks as if he is now doing something for the family instead of actually being punished by the family, So it's a different look.
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Speaker 1: He continued here with his statement, saying, with His Majesty's agreement, we feel I must now go a step further. I will therefore no longer use my title or the honors which have been conferred upon me. As I have said previously, I vigorously deny the accusations against me. And that was it. A couple of lines, and that's it. That's over. When we're going to see him again, we do not know as far as the public events. Is the Christmas one the only one he's a little no, the Easter one, it's only one he's.
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Speaker 2: Allowed to and he has been invited to family gatherings and weddings and all of those sorts of things. But look, the papers in Great Britain have gone a stuff for they're saying that when Prince William becomes king, things will even get more difficult for Prince Andrew. That all remains to be seen, but certainly there is a group of folks who want that to happen, who think more should be done, that he should be completely wiped away basically from the public eye when it comes to the royal family.
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Speaker 1: Just driving the royal family crazy. It's not like we can just rip off the band aid get this done in one scandal. It's like every couple of weeks or months there's another drip, drip, And the latest drip was the papers over there putting out this email between Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein, allegedly between the two, which what was the line he said in there? Oh my god, it was a line he used in there that everybody said, what the hell, Oh yeah, we're in this together. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: That was to light recently, which caused as you might imagine, Yes, this was I believe months after he claimed that he had stopped speaking to Epstein. The revelations had been made about what Epstein actually had been up to in terms of sex trafficking and miners and all of that. So this is supposedly three months after he publicly distanced himself from him and then sends him an email that says we're in this together. That's fairly damaged.
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Speaker 1: So that's one of the things like here, it's it didn't make necessarily the headlines. It's everything and everywhere over there. And that's why there's been kind of this, I guess, renewed outcry, this renewed backlash against the royal family against Andrew that they now have made he and you. Obviously he didn't just walk in and say, hey, guys, I think I want to do this.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
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Speaker 1: Obviously he got pressure to do this. This wasn't just on him.
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Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: And it's just been NonStop and they have been looking for ways to further distance themselves and this is just the latest.
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Speaker 1: I only know, you know what, I don't keep up with it, and we in this country we keep up with We have a fascination with the royals.
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Speaker 3: We do.
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Speaker 1: Obviously, I'm not sure how and why is it Robes What was her scandal that when you say Duchess of York, I always know who that is.
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Speaker 3: Fergie.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, why I can't remember what her theme was, but don't They all have the Duke of this, the Duchess of that, and I don't know who's who, but I always remember the Duchess of York as Sarah Ferguson. She is no longer the Duchess of York because of this, she is.
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Speaker 2: No longer the Duchess of York. But guess what, I didn't realize this both Prince Andrew. I had to make sure I could say Prince Andrew. PRIs Andrew and Fergie still live in Royal Lodge.
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Speaker 1: It's a big house.
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Speaker 3: Thirty years after they've been divorced. They are still but they're thickest thieves like they really do. Still hang out with one another. Obviously they have their two daughters together.
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Speaker 2: But there have been there has been much written about how the King and other members of the royal family have encouraged Prince Andrew and for Hey to move out of I believe it's a thirty room Crown Estate property in Windsor, Yes, Windsor Great Park, Yes, so their Royal Lodge and Windsor Great Park, But they are still there, They are still living there, and according to most he is still a very wealthy individual. He was able to sell a property that his mother, the Queen, gave him as a wedding present for I guess fifteen million euros, so whatever that amounts to a US dollars. So he's gonna be okay regardless financially speaking, wherever it is he lives.
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Speaker 3: But right now he's still there.
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Speaker 1: But I just thought she it's where she loses that title in all this. That's all I know her and anybody else.
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Speaker 2: I'm surprised did she still have it even after the divorce. I don't know how it works.
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Speaker 1: Apparently still was still was the Duchess of York. I don't know how it works over there either, But the daughters do keep to keep their titles of princess as well, which was interesting for them.
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Speaker 3: That's got to be really tough.
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Speaker 1: What to have their dad be this guy, yes, okay.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and to be still mingling in a part of the royal family and more of the four show roles. And certainly they're there on the balcony you see Eugenie, And I'm trying to think who the other Beutris. Yes, we see them always alongside other members of the world heavily. I'm just saying that's that's got to be a tough position to be in.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm how old of the girls now, I'm asking about everybody's age, I'm how old I see them every once in a while they show up at everything seemed they.
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Speaker 3: Seem to be they're they're married and.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, folks, stay with us here as we continue looking up the ages and marital status of the royal family. When we come back here, we'll tell you more about Virginia Giuffrey's claims against Prince Andrew, more about her book that's coming out, and Prince Andrew's life now that he's given up the titles, what happens to it now? All right, folks, we continue now with the story of Prince Andrew giving up all of his titles and honors, more backlash after his association with Jeffrey Epstein. Of course, Epstein, the convicted sex offender, died by suicide while awaiting trial here in New York. Of course, Klaiine Maxwell is the only person in prison right now who is serving any jail town has been punished for what happened in Epstein's circle. Prince Andrew the other we're just talking about him losing the titles, which means that his ex wife Sarah Ferguson loses the title of Duchess of York. The daughters keep the title of princess. And you were saying they are moving on, doing okay for.
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Speaker 3: Their grown women.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Princess Beatrice is thirty seven and is married. Princess Eugenie is thirty five and married. So yes, they are both going to still be called her Royal Highness princess, So that is how they are still referred to, and they will not lose any sort of title or any sort of status within the royal family.
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Speaker 1: Now, Prince Andrew, we talked about here robes Idea and we've been looking at this for quite a while. I was trying to find anywhere somewhere where his life is about to change, Like what now that this has happened, there's more public humiliation. And again it was already there. He had the epscene staying with them, he doesn't get to go to family events. What is actually have you seen? What have you seen that is actually going to change in his life? That he is going to feel the impact of this.
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Speaker 3: I can't.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem as if much is other than he's just further publicly humane and he's I can't imagine it's a good thing for him to walk around and just be noticed and that I'm sure he is very much just low key at this point. There's no public outings for him. The life he once had is gone, and it's been gone for quite some time, and this is just further humiliation to a already probably sheltered life. He tried to do that interview in twenty nineteen and it ended up blowing up in his face. He thought he was going to save face and the thing as long as he continues to deny even knowing Virginia Geufrey let alone, having done anything untoward with her, and certainly denying that this photograph is not real, it's just tough to have any sort of way forward if you're denying and you won't accept any responsibility.
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Speaker 3: I think that's the hard thing.
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Speaker 2: Like, on one hand, he's allowing all of these titles to be stripped from him, he is going along with all of that, and yet same time refusing to admit any sort of behavior that contributed to this situation.
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Speaker 3: So therefore you can never go forward. He can never move on.
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Speaker 2: Because he's denying everything and yet allowing certain punishments to be put in place.
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Speaker 3: Those two things don't drive.
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Speaker 2: If you were absolutely innocent, you would fight to the end to clear your name.
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Speaker 1: Is that what he's doing? I mean, he keeps denying. I mean is that him fighting to the end. I don't know. He's sixty five years old now. And to your you maybe think of if you remember who said it, please jump in. That was a quote from somebody in the from the Royal office over there about what you were saying. He keeps denying. He said, let me get this right. He paid this much money to a woman, he millions to a woman he never met, for something he never did. It was supposed to be sarcastic like correct, correct, Hey, all this money to somebody you never met for something you never did.
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Speaker 3: Okay, yes, right, it doesn't. It doesn't jive.
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Speaker 2: And I think obviously anyone who has looked into the story even remotely could put those two things together. It doesn't work. You don't pay someone millions of dollars, You don't allow for all of your titles and very prestigious honors to be taken away from you, and at the same time say well, I didn't do it, but okay, I'll write this check and I'll go away and go into hiding, and I'll never ever be called your Royal Highness again. I'll lose my dukedom. I mean, you just wouldn't do those things. You wouldn't willingly do those things if you were completely innocent.
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Speaker 1: And this is something he will never I mean, I don't know what could possibly happen. I don't know he could ever get away from There was a woman who died by suicide this year who went to her grave saying that Prince Andrew sexually abused her, but she was seventeen.
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Speaker 2: Years old, correct, And that book is coming out tomorrow on Tuesday. Nobody's Girl is the name of the book and one of the look again. We haven't read through the book yet, looking forward to doing so tomorrow, but one of the big lines that had been released by many many news agencies is that she wrote before her death. Drewfrey wrote that Prince Andrew acted as if he believed having sex with me was his birthright. That was the headline everywhere when certain excerpts started coming out from her book, and that's one that he is not going to survive in terms of just his role in the royal family.
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Speaker 1: Maybe this was part of it. Two, just getting ahead of what's coming with his book, maybe that was a part of it as well, But that he can't get away from what was the thing here in New York. Even in New York, they were the storage place. You remember the sign o. Yes, it was safe, secure, with minimal charges, just like Prince Andrew. This was like a random Do you remembered that? Because it was everywhere. It was shocking, it was that's not funny, even though it is right. They made a joke. A Manhattan storage company uses that. They do some playful ones. They are known. Was it Manhattan Storage.
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Speaker 3: Right, Yes, yes, they love to have some fun with it.
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Speaker 1: They poke fun at a bunch of but that safe, secure and with minimal charges, just like Prince Andrew. That is what is chasing him. Right. Trump went over and he's greeted by Epstein photos being put up on the council and then over here you got this thing just Epstein and his death. What was twenty nineteen.
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Speaker 3: Well, twenty nineteen was his death just to.
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Speaker 1: Think the impact he is still having anybody who was in his orbit and how their lives have changed. But as it, Prince Andrew is still Prince Andrew. But that's the only title he still has.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, even I do find it ironic though, with Virginia writing about how he thought it was his birthright to have heard basically he has now lost his birthright pretty much in every other way in terms of all of the titles and just the dukedom. I mean, it's a huge, huge deal. This is another level of disgrace. I believe they said that no royal family member has been stripped of their dukedom. It's been over one hundred years, so this is virtually unprecedented and certainly in modern times to have a prince lose his titles the way Prince Andrew has now official way.
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Speaker 3: We will continue to keep our eye on this story.
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Speaker 2: It is certainly still developing with the book out tomorrow, but in the meantime, thank you so much for listening to us everyone.
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Speaker 3: I'm Amy Roeboch alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Monday, October the twentieth and the sixth year. Slow fall from grace for Prince Andrew might be complete after he has now given up all of his royal titles. However, still call him Prince and with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rose. We hear again there's a fascination with his story. This is all Epstein related. But Prince Andrew giving up his royal titles, He's still Prince Andrew though. That's the first thing I think that came to a lot of people's mind. Well, you're not a prince anymore. Well, he is.
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Speaker 2: He that's his birthright by just being born the son of the queen.
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Speaker 3: He is a prince, but he is the hold one of that forever correct.
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Speaker 2: But he is no longer the Duke of York, and he will no longer be referred to as his Royal Highness, And with that he has to relinquish a bunch of other titles and positions that he was given over the years. And most reports have been that this was pressure from the King, and he even admitted discussions with the King, But certainly there has been a lot of mounting public pressure on him over the past six years, and certainly with this book coming out, Virginia Geuphrey's book coming out posthumously tomorrow. A lot of folks, I mean, this conversation has never gone away, but it seems to have reached a fever pitch.
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Speaker 1: This is folks, as you know, Prince Andrew, it is that the name besides Trump, this is a name of the highest profile name. Now, let me be careful and let me say this correctly. There is no one who is accusing President Trump of anything any wrongdoing having to do with any underage.
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Speaker 2: In fact, Virginia Jeffrey, who has obviously made these claims against Epstein and certainly against Prince Andrew, has gone out of her way and went out of her way to praise President Trump.
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Speaker 1: So let me say that, and let us make sure we get that clear. However, he has been dogged by his affiliation with Epstein. Prince Andrew, however, is the other in the highest profile name but Robes. He is accused of criminal wrongdoing.
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Speaker 2: Correct Virginia Giufrey has said repeatedly that she was loaned over to him, so to speak, by Epstein at the age of seventeen, but three specific times, and once when she was seventeen. It was noted that seventeen is the age of consent in the UK, and so was this a crime or not. Regardless, it is not a good look and certainly not anything that the royal family wants to be a part of.
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Speaker 1: Well was once was here in New York at Epstein's place, his private island was another, and then London, I believe was another place she said this took place, and she names Prince Andrew. He hasn't faced any criminal charges related to this, but as far as the public scrutiny being essentially kicked out of the role of family for all intents and purposes, and also the financial settlement, this has dogged and will continue to dog him, and this now robes it's it sounds like another big deal. It sounds like another big whoopie dood that he is no longer going to have these titles. But for all intents and purposes, it's not necessarily going to change the life he's been living the past six years because he already gave up royal duties.
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Speaker 2: Correct, So this is just another form of public humiliation, yes, and that is what this is, a public reckoning so to speak. It doesn't have any actual, yes, real life impact on him, but certainly this is a big deal. And look that he denies all of this, and even with in relinquishing these titles, is still denying any involvement with Virginia Geufrey. And there is a picture that has been around for years now, and it was one that she even actually showed me, but he claims it's a fake, it's not real, but it's fairly undeniable. Anyone who wants to go and look at this picture. He has his arm around her. You see Gilaine Maxwell behind them. Everyone's smiling, but she looks so young.
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Speaker 1: We say, go look at it. Looking with this picture for years now, it's the picture that's always thrown in there. But you have to be said, he has at every turn said he has done absolutely nothing wrong. Now this came back up and there's we're not finding or we're not hearing it as much here in the US. When big things happen with the royal family, it makes headlines over there. It's a headline every single day that they're covering this. And what's happened over there over the past several days is that some yes, you have Virginia Duphra's book coming out. But also we're now that they're actually looking into some wrongdoing. Not the wrongdoing having to do with sexual abuse, but the police over there are now looking into a recent allegation that's come up.
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Speaker 2: That is correct, So they are looking into whether or not Prince Andrew somehow asked a member of the police force to get involved with basically making Virginia Dupray look bad, a smear campaign, so to speak, behind this scenes when he heard she was going to be speaking out and speaking up about his alleged involvement with her and Jeffrey Epstein. And so now because of this new report, it has been confirmed that police over there are in fact investigating whether or not this took place.
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Speaker 1: And again, what punishment might come from that? Nothing? Excuse me, I should say nothing compared to what could come from something like a sexual abuse conviction of being hauled into court for that. But this is still something they're looking into, and it is new, and this is something Her book is coming out tomorrow right because she needs to pray the new book her memoir again, she died in April of this year by suicide, but she mentions as well in the book, at least excerpts we've seen that seems to give some kind of credence to this idea that he was trying to smear her.
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Speaker 3: Correct and she said that in the book.
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Speaker 2: She claims that Prince Andrew's team tried to what she said, higher internet trolls to hassle her online. So that's in addition to perhaps even having a member of his security team, according.
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Speaker 3: To her, smear her behind the scenes. So that's all a part of it. Now.
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Speaker 2: We will probably, I think we definitely will run out and get her book tomorrow when it comes out, But there have been several outlets that have had early release.
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Speaker 3: And they've been able to go through it.
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Speaker 2: And according to one UK paper, in her autobiography autobiography that is released tomorrow that she makes eighty eight separate references to Prince Andrew across the four hundred pages. So he is a huge part of this book and a lot of people are waiting to see what she says, specifically, if there's anything different or more than what we've heard publicly from her before the time of her death.
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Speaker 1: Well, these titles he's giving up again, I only hear him refer to as Prince Andrew. But it's a very big deal over there. He was called the Duke of York. That was a title that was given to him by his late mother, the Queen he is. I'm so or put you on the spot. We can look at our realth quick. He's younger brother of the king. But how much younger is he than the king I can't remember. But Prince Andrew is the younger brother of the king. We talked about the titles that he is essentially giving up there. There's all kinds of titles, and there's a knighthood organization, the oldest order of Knights that he was a part of. He's having to give that up. Yes, that hurts you and that's pride and that's public shaming. But to your point as well you said earlier, Prince, that will not go away. Now the family does want it, the family of Virginia Juphray, they let it be known. Yeah, we want the prince title taken away. I don't know. It would take an act of Parliament and act to charl get that from him as well. But that, like you said, it's his birth right.
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Speaker 2: Yes, so he has now in conjunction with talking with the King is agreed to obviously not use these titles. But as you point out, he retains the dukedom, he retains the title of the Earl of Inverness, the Baron of I'm not gonna say this right, Billlay and the prestigious role as Royal Knight Companion of the Order of the Garter. And so they say that these titles are going to become dormant. He still has them technically, but he's agreed not to use them in any public way or formally. So yes, an Act of Congress it would require for him to be formally officially stripped of these titles. So it is a matter of I guess, a technicality so to speak, on British law. But yeah, we heard from Virginia's family. They say we've actually got the statement from them. We the family of Virginia Roberts Giuffrey, believe that Prince Andrew's decision to give up his titles is vindication for our sister and survivors everywhere. The decisive action is a powerful step forward in our fight to bring Jeffrey Epstein and Galley Maxwell's child sex trafficking network to justice. Further, we believe it is appropriate for King Charles to remove the title of print.
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Speaker 1: Again he is not necessarily allowed to do it on his own, but still it's it's something they want. It's symbolic at this point, he's not going to jail, right, Continue with the humulation, continue to take things away from him that they don't believe he has a right to. Now. We found out about all of this a couple of days ago through a statement from Prince Andrew himself and in a statement in which he once again defended himself and denied any wrongdoing. He said, and I quote, in discussion with the King and my immediate and wider family, we have concluded the continued accusations about me distract from the work of His Majesty and the royal family. I have decided, as I always have to put my duty to my family and country first, I stand by my decision five years ago to stand back from public life. And again, he hasn't been a working royal, which is a big deal. To not be a work His family goes around, doesn't.
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Speaker 2: That's what they do. That's the family business.
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Speaker 1: It is your responsibility. You do have a duty to the royal Now to make it sound as if it sounded noble.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, So that's what people have been saying that it's allowing him by not having the King or Parliament or whomever strip him of these titles and allow him to offer to give them up, gives him an opportunity to claim that he's acted honorably, as.
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Speaker 1: Crazy as it sounds, and saving some fight face.
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Speaker 2: Yes, because now he is defending the monarchy by falling on a sword, so he looks as if he is now doing something for the family instead of actually being punished by the family, So it's a different look.
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Speaker 1: He continued here with his statement, saying, with His Majesty's agreement, we feel I must now go a step further. I will therefore no longer use my title or the honors which have been conferred upon me. As I have said previously, I vigorously deny the accusations against me. And that was it. A couple of lines, and that's it. That's over. When we're going to see him again, we do not know as far as the public events. Is the Christmas one the only one he's a little no, the Easter one, it's only one he's.
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Speaker 2: Allowed to and he has been invited to family gatherings and weddings and all of those sorts of things. But look, the papers in Great Britain have gone a stuff for they're saying that when Prince William becomes king, things will even get more difficult for Prince Andrew. That all remains to be seen, but certainly there is a group of folks who want that to happen, who think more should be done, that he should be completely wiped away basically from the public eye when it comes to the royal family.
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Speaker 1: Just driving the royal family crazy. It's not like we can just rip off the band aid get this done in one scandal. It's like every couple of weeks or months there's another drip, drip, And the latest drip was the papers over there putting out this email between Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein, allegedly between the two, which what was the line he said in there? Oh my god, it was a line he used in there that everybody said, what the hell, Oh yeah, we're in this together. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: That was to light recently, which caused as you might imagine, Yes, this was I believe months after he claimed that he had stopped speaking to Epstein. The revelations had been made about what Epstein actually had been up to in terms of sex trafficking and miners and all of that. So this is supposedly three months after he publicly distanced himself from him and then sends him an email that says we're in this together. That's fairly damaged.
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Speaker 1: So that's one of the things like here, it's it didn't make necessarily the headlines. It's everything and everywhere over there. And that's why there's been kind of this, I guess, renewed outcry, this renewed backlash against the royal family against Andrew that they now have made he and you. Obviously he didn't just walk in and say, hey, guys, I think I want to do this.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
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Speaker 1: Obviously he got pressure to do this. This wasn't just on him.
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Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: And it's just been NonStop and they have been looking for ways to further distance themselves and this is just the latest.
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Speaker 1: I only know, you know what, I don't keep up with it, and we in this country we keep up with We have a fascination with the royals.
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Speaker 3: We do.
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Speaker 1: Obviously, I'm not sure how and why is it Robes What was her scandal that when you say Duchess of York, I always know who that is.
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Speaker 3: Fergie.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, why I can't remember what her theme was, but don't They all have the Duke of this, the Duchess of that, and I don't know who's who, but I always remember the Duchess of York as Sarah Ferguson. She is no longer the Duchess of York because of this, she is.
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Speaker 2: No longer the Duchess of York. But guess what, I didn't realize this both Prince Andrew. I had to make sure I could say Prince Andrew. PRIs Andrew and Fergie still live in Royal Lodge.
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Speaker 1: It's a big house.
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Speaker 3: Thirty years after they've been divorced. They are still but they're thickest thieves like they really do. Still hang out with one another. Obviously they have their two daughters together.
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Speaker 2: But there have been there has been much written about how the King and other members of the royal family have encouraged Prince Andrew and for Hey to move out of I believe it's a thirty room Crown Estate property in Windsor, Yes, Windsor Great Park, Yes, so their Royal Lodge and Windsor Great Park, But they are still there, They are still living there, and according to most he is still a very wealthy individual. He was able to sell a property that his mother, the Queen, gave him as a wedding present for I guess fifteen million euros, so whatever that amounts to a US dollars. So he's gonna be okay regardless financially speaking, wherever it is he lives.
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Speaker 3: But right now he's still there.
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Speaker 1: But I just thought she it's where she loses that title in all this. That's all I know her and anybody else.
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Speaker 2: I'm surprised did she still have it even after the divorce. I don't know how it works.
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Speaker 1: Apparently still was still was the Duchess of York. I don't know how it works over there either, But the daughters do keep to keep their titles of princess as well, which was interesting for them.
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Speaker 3: That's got to be really tough.
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Speaker 1: What to have their dad be this guy, yes, okay.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and to be still mingling in a part of the royal family and more of the four show roles. And certainly they're there on the balcony you see Eugenie, And I'm trying to think who the other Beutris. Yes, we see them always alongside other members of the world heavily. I'm just saying that's that's got to be a tough position to be in.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm how old of the girls now, I'm asking about everybody's age, I'm how old I see them every once in a while they show up at everything seemed they.
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Speaker 3: Seem to be they're they're married and.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, folks, stay with us here as we continue looking up the ages and marital status of the royal family. When we come back here, we'll tell you more about Virginia Giuffrey's claims against Prince Andrew, more about her book that's coming out, and Prince Andrew's life now that he's given up the titles, what happens to it now? All right, folks, we continue now with the story of Prince Andrew giving up all of his titles and honors, more backlash after his association with Jeffrey Epstein. Of course, Epstein, the convicted sex offender, died by suicide while awaiting trial here in New York. Of course, Klaiine Maxwell is the only person in prison right now who is serving any jail town has been punished for what happened in Epstein's circle. Prince Andrew the other we're just talking about him losing the titles, which means that his ex wife Sarah Ferguson loses the title of Duchess of York. The daughters keep the title of princess. And you were saying they are moving on, doing okay for.
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Speaker 3: Their grown women.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Princess Beatrice is thirty seven and is married. Princess Eugenie is thirty five and married. So yes, they are both going to still be called her Royal Highness princess, So that is how they are still referred to, and they will not lose any sort of title or any sort of status within the royal family.
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Speaker 1: Now, Prince Andrew, we talked about here robes Idea and we've been looking at this for quite a while. I was trying to find anywhere somewhere where his life is about to change, Like what now that this has happened, there's more public humiliation. And again it was already there. He had the epscene staying with them, he doesn't get to go to family events. What is actually have you seen? What have you seen that is actually going to change in his life? That he is going to feel the impact of this.
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Speaker 3: I can't.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem as if much is other than he's just further publicly humane and he's I can't imagine it's a good thing for him to walk around and just be noticed and that I'm sure he is very much just low key at this point. There's no public outings for him. The life he once had is gone, and it's been gone for quite some time, and this is just further humiliation to a already probably sheltered life. He tried to do that interview in twenty nineteen and it ended up blowing up in his face. He thought he was going to save face and the thing as long as he continues to deny even knowing Virginia Geufrey let alone, having done anything untoward with her, and certainly denying that this photograph is not real, it's just tough to have any sort of way forward if you're denying and you won't accept any responsibility.
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Speaker 3: I think that's the hard thing.
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Speaker 2: Like, on one hand, he's allowing all of these titles to be stripped from him, he is going along with all of that, and yet same time refusing to admit any sort of behavior that contributed to this situation.
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Speaker 3: So therefore you can never go forward. He can never move on.
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Speaker 2: Because he's denying everything and yet allowing certain punishments to be put in place.
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Speaker 3: Those two things don't drive.
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Speaker 2: If you were absolutely innocent, you would fight to the end to clear your name.
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Speaker 1: Is that what he's doing? I mean, he keeps denying. I mean is that him fighting to the end. I don't know. He's sixty five years old now. And to your you maybe think of if you remember who said it, please jump in. That was a quote from somebody in the from the Royal office over there about what you were saying. He keeps denying. He said, let me get this right. He paid this much money to a woman, he millions to a woman he never met, for something he never did. It was supposed to be sarcastic like correct, correct, Hey, all this money to somebody you never met for something you never did.
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Speaker 3: Okay, yes, right, it doesn't. It doesn't jive.
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Speaker 2: And I think obviously anyone who has looked into the story even remotely could put those two things together. It doesn't work. You don't pay someone millions of dollars, You don't allow for all of your titles and very prestigious honors to be taken away from you, and at the same time say well, I didn't do it, but okay, I'll write this check and I'll go away and go into hiding, and I'll never ever be called your Royal Highness again. I'll lose my dukedom. I mean, you just wouldn't do those things. You wouldn't willingly do those things if you were completely innocent.
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Speaker 1: And this is something he will never I mean, I don't know what could possibly happen. I don't know he could ever get away from There was a woman who died by suicide this year who went to her grave saying that Prince Andrew sexually abused her, but she was seventeen.
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Speaker 2: Years old, correct, And that book is coming out tomorrow on Tuesday. Nobody's Girl is the name of the book and one of the look again. We haven't read through the book yet, looking forward to doing so tomorrow, but one of the big lines that had been released by many many news agencies is that she wrote before her death. Drewfrey wrote that Prince Andrew acted as if he believed having sex with me was his birthright. That was the headline everywhere when certain excerpts started coming out from her book, and that's one that he is not going to survive in terms of just his role in the royal family.
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Speaker 1: Maybe this was part of it. Two, just getting ahead of what's coming with his book, maybe that was a part of it as well, But that he can't get away from what was the thing here in New York. Even in New York, they were the storage place. You remember the sign o. Yes, it was safe, secure, with minimal charges, just like Prince Andrew. This was like a random Do you remembered that? Because it was everywhere. It was shocking, it was that's not funny, even though it is right. They made a joke. A Manhattan storage company uses that. They do some playful ones. They are known. Was it Manhattan Storage.
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Speaker 3: Right, Yes, yes, they love to have some fun with it.
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Speaker 1: They poke fun at a bunch of but that safe, secure and with minimal charges, just like Prince Andrew. That is what is chasing him. Right. Trump went over and he's greeted by Epstein photos being put up on the council and then over here you got this thing just Epstein and his death. What was twenty nineteen.
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Speaker 3: Well, twenty nineteen was his death just to.
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Speaker 1: Think the impact he is still having anybody who was in his orbit and how their lives have changed. But as it, Prince Andrew is still Prince Andrew. But that's the only title he still has.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, even I do find it ironic though, with Virginia writing about how he thought it was his birthright to have heard basically he has now lost his birthright pretty much in every other way in terms of all of the titles and just the dukedom. I mean, it's a huge, huge deal. This is another level of disgrace. I believe they said that no royal family member has been stripped of their dukedom. It's been over one hundred years, so this is virtually unprecedented and certainly in modern times to have a prince lose his titles the way Prince Andrew has now official way.
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Speaker 3: We will continue to keep our eye on this story.
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Speaker 2: It is certainly still developing with the book out tomorrow, but in the meantime, thank you so much for listening to us everyone.
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Speaker 3: I'm Amy Roeboch alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.