President Trump Says He’s Aging In Reverse, Today He’ll Hear From His Doctors

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Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Tuesday, May twenty sixth, and the oldest man ever elected president is going in for a physical today.

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Speaker 2: And yes, that's a big deal. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rhoades. No matter how much how strong he looks, how busy the schedule is, we all have to remember this is an eighty year old man almost and when his health is on the table, it is worth paying attention to.

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Speaker 3: You say, how strong he looks? I think maybe it's how strong he is constantly attempting to present himself as Perhaps might be a better way to describe it, because look, his health, his appearance, his cognitive ability, his ability to even stay awake has all come into question recently in headlines, and you can see the president trying to combat that constantly, because one of his biggest criticisms of his predecessor was how old he was, how feeble he was, how sleepy he was. And yet he's getting some of the same exact criticism hurled at him.

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Speaker 2: Sleepy Joe, how manziund you have to hear that sleepy Joe? And frankly his age. Questions about his physical and mental ability are absolutely robes the reason that Joe Biden was not on the ballot. Correct, right, So here we are we have a guy who was actually older than Biden when he was actually elected and took office. So why wouldn't his age also be of interest? And the reason Robes is not maybe talked about as much because the President pushes push us, pushes back on any idea that he is not as sharp mentally or as physically strong as somebody else was. He always bragging about some cognitive tests. He always says he aced.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, everything. He's the fittest, strongest, sharpest president to ever exist. We get it, but it's kind of crazy when you think about it. I don't think we we take this into account often, at least I don't. This man is about to turn eighty eight zero. Think about anyone else in your life who you know, who is in their eighth decade, who is eighty There are absolutely limitations, there are There is absolutely decline happening period. Ask any doctor. It's physically impossible not to be declining, physically, mentally, cognitively, like however you want to put it. We are in decline, and he certainly is. Once you reach a certain age and it, and it tends to show up quickly and often when you're that age.

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Speaker 2: And that was one thing we all It felt like we just watched Joe Biden grow old right before our eyes. It did. It felt like that. And you know what, we have that about a lot of family members just see it happen. And robes that schedule. I cannot imagine for a president. So here we are with President Trump, and folks might be thinking like, wait a minute, didn't he just have a physical? Wait a minute, wasn't he just at the doctor? And robes he has had? I guess this feels like several now in person doctor's appointments during his second term.

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Speaker 3: Now, look, I actually think that's a good thing. I applaud him for doing that. I think too often many of us don't make enough doctor's appointments to make sure we're doing things correctly and we're on top of everything. So actually, in terms of making sure he is in good shape, it's a good thing he's going. And I'm actually surprised to he is because a lot of folks get a little proud. I don't need to go to the doctor. I don't need to check up, I don't need to have any more testing done. I actually think maybe this is a nice lead by example moment for the President to recommend or at least to maybe inspire other folks to make sure they're on top of their helplets take a positive spin on this, But I do think that that's one of the things. A lot of us just don't want bad news, so we don't seek any news, and that can lead to so many other issues. So if anything, maybe one thing we can take away from this is that we all should be doing what the president is doing. And I would rarely say that, but in this situation it's absolutely true.

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Speaker 2: And of course, and obviously his life, I mean, he would argue, is more valuable than most of ours. But it's very important that that dude is sharp upstairs, and that heart is a ticking and strong, and he's able to keep up with this job. But this is his third visit he's had in his second term. He had went in April, that was the first physical, and then I guess eyebrows were raised when he had a follow up in October. Now we didn't really understand Roodes at the time. He said. The first thing he said was an MRI, and that raised eyebrows. Now, you've been around the block when it comes to hospital, Yes, And so when someone says an MRI, that's usually a follow up to look for something that something else didn't catch it. It's a more serious step. It's not routine.

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Speaker 3: I should say, you don't get an MRI unless they are concerned about something specific. So, yes, I've had plenty of them, and they've all been related to specific concerns.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So he first said MRI, and then he came back and they confirmed later that it was a CT scan.

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Speaker 3: Even still, even still, but what are we scanning? I mean, look, you can have a brain scan, you can have a hard scan, or if there's a specific area of concern that showed up somewhere, or a blood test pointed to something, they're looking for tumors, cancer, heart problems, all of the above. But yeah, CT scan would also be a very specific test that's ordered.

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Speaker 2: So again they said everything checked out after that follow up. So here we are coming with this next exam. Now robes a reminder, and do we forget this? He it's weird to say Biden was younger.

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Speaker 3: It's so strange.

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Speaker 2: But when the two men took office, Trump was five months older, five months older. So Trump has actually set the record twice. When he was sworn in in his first term, he was the oldest man ever to take the oath, and then in twenty twenty five when he did it again once again, was the oldest man at seventy eight years old to take the oath and robe. Some of the health issues we've seen kind of go in line with someone who might be around that age.

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. Swollen ankles. They're always taking pictures and zooming in and showing his swollen ankles. But this is called chronic venous insufficiency, and it's pretty common among older folks.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: Actually my grandma had it for some time. And it's not anything pretty to look at, but it's actually incredibly painful too, and it's a common ailment from folks who were getting older.

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Speaker 2: And of course the hand situation, they love showing close ups over they were actually using makeup, yes, for a while, right to cover.

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Speaker 3: That he still is using makeup. It's pointed out all the time.

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Speaker 2: They ever exactly explained that when other than the handshakes and the bruising, right, yes, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, when you get older, you bruise easily. I mean, that's another thing. I definitely I think anyone who's watched a loved one get older, that's just something that comes with age. Yes, And then what's up with this neck rash?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this close up these pictures have been taken, like, what is that irritation? What is going on there? I don't have that explanation yet. And then the other ropes he's been pushing back on. But okay, you can say he wasn't dozing off, but damn those some long blinks.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, but falling asleep has been something, and it's just oh so ironic because obviously this has been his biggest, biggest Just think that he's pointed out about Biden again, the sleepy Joe thing, But just cont in fact, I think I saw something on a true social just recently showing Biden falling asleep with the autopen, with people around him, basically doing the job of president for him in that sense. But look, you can't throw barbs like that at someone constantly and then get caught in this same exact situation as with doing the same behavior that you're pointing the finger at someone else for doing.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 3: Look, you can call them long blinks all you want, but we know what we're seeing when we're watching video of the president sleeping. Yes he is. He is absolutely dozing off here is Don't tell me it's a long blink. Please.

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Speaker 2: They are countless now videos of him doing this in the Oval office with people all around him, and he still just can't keep his eyes open. Look, it's a tough job, it's a it's a strenuous job on an eighty year old body. I cannot imagine.

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Speaker 3: He should be taking naps. But then again, if he should be taking naps, which I do believe, that is absolutely most thing that older folks need to do to try and yes, have some restorative sleep throughout the day, to be better when you're actually awake. But do we want presidents this sould That's the biggest question. It's not that Trump has done anything wrong or he should be doing this or should be doing that. He is just the age he is and this is expected behavior from people that age.

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Speaker 2: But maybe it shouldn't be what we want in our presidents. And that is a conversation that has been happening over the years, but it's been making headlines here recently for a particular reason. We'll explain, but Robes, we know calling him sleepy Joe. Again, the men are almost the same age, but he calls him sleepy Joe. And President Trump hates the idea of being seen as weak or old in any way, like physically and mentally weak or old. Not just about his decision making, not just about what kind of president he had, No, No, he just wants to always look strong and promote that image. Robes to the point of ridiculousness. I pointed this stuff out to you. I don't remember how many I sent you, but random posts he has had in recent days, in recent weeks in which he's just promoting himself as younger, to the point of a headline that he created saying President Trump gets younger and just has a picture of him there standing next to President She of China. Robes, He's he's I mean, is this supposed to be funny? Is is he really trying to push this idea onto people?

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Speaker 3: He absolutely is trying to counter program or just give folks another headline to read other than the ones where he's being shown falling asleep, bruising, rashes, anything that would signify old age. But I'm sorry, at some point you have to acknowledge you are old, you are old. But no, instead we get post from him saying showing a picture of him when he was a young weet, he's dressed in military. What did he ever serve? No? But he's he didn't is he in? He's in a military uniform.

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Speaker 2: He might have attended at academy or something. I can't remember the background. No way he put himself in a uniform. He didn't. That has to be a real picture.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, he looks like he's about eighteen, young man. And then it's a present day Trump looking at his younger self across the table, and it says, same guy, even more energy, now exclamation point. It's almost like if he says it loud enough, it'll be true.

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Speaker 2: This is stuff he's put What date was that? That was May sixteenth? He posted that one another President Trump gets younger standing next to President she and the other one robes his Benjamin button post.

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Speaker 3: President Trump ages in reverse exclamation point. Look, these aren't headlines that any news outlet has written. These are headlines he is creating with a picture of him looking strong with his tie off, an unbuttoned white shirt and on a laser. Yeah, just looking strong and robust. But it's it's actually bizarre that he takes his time as president of the United States to try to find flattering, younger images of himself and then creating headlines about how young and strong and robust he is. It's it's alarming. It is we have to point these things out. This is not typical behavior, and it's concerning, ironically to me. It makes many of us look at that and think, what's going on upstairs? What's going on in his brain? And it's one of those I think he doth protest too much moments.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean wrote is that the only of this image you're still looking at here with the ages in reverse is golf. The only thing we know of that he does for physical activity. Ah. Yes, he doesn't promote health and running and.

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Speaker 3: He promotes McDonald's.

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Speaker 2: He does. I mean he has notoriously McDonald's and die Coke fan right, Yes, I mean fine, but I was surprised. Robes and just how many folks, this is a recent poll from Washington Post, ABC News ipsus how many people don't think he has the mental capacity to lead.

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Speaker 3: All you have to do is read his truth social and I actually encourage anyone listening. However you feel about the president, you and we all should be monitoring daily. Just do take five minutes out of your day and just breeze through his truth social and you can come to your own conclusions. But that number actually doesn't surprise me at all.

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Speaker 2: I was surprised to see that because that's how you.

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Speaker 3: Read his post. I don't understand how you couldn't come away with some questions.

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Speaker 2: That is truelen. We've shared a few here, and sometimes a few of his posts robes make headlines because it's about Iran or whatnot. But there's a bunch of stuff in there that does not make the news that will blow your mind. The other part here on that same poll, not physically fit enough to lead fifty five percent? Don't think he's physically fit enough?

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Speaker 3: And don't you think the president obviously is aware of these polls, And that would point to why he is putting up these bizarre posts about how young, fit and healthy he is and how he's aging and reverse. He's trying to counter these polls, but it's also implying that the American public is stupid and we'll just believe his I guess his his version of himself that isn't true. Somehow we're going to buy into it because he says it. So that's strange.

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Speaker 2: I'll be very curious to see the results of his physical today, which he is going through this morning. We understand, but stay here will remind you. Do you remember who were the oldest presidents? Yes, Biden and Trump, but before that who were the oldest? Also the big name Democrats also come out and said that there should be an age limit for presidents and how can this all get changed? Well, it would be pretty tough, need a constitutional amendments to hear. All right, we continue here on Amy and TJ. What's the right age road? What is the limit? Could you limit how old a president should be? And what even would that number? What would that number be?

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Speaker 3: Well, I feel very comfortable in saying, and I feel like most people would agree with this, that you should not be president from eighty on up. I feel like eighty for me is the measure. And if you would if you were scheduled to turn eighty within your term, you're eliminated. I just I think we have to acknowledge it.

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Speaker 2: So not you shouldn't even be able to run.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't think you should be able to run if you're within your term you turn eighty. I just think we have to at least acknowledge here that there are absolute, real medical limitations physically and cognitively, and we all have to acknowledge the reality. I know that no one wants to talk about death. People are afraid to discuss aging because it's something we are all facing. It's something we look at. It's I think a lot of people will point to, especially in this country, we tend to just put our older folks away, out of sight. We don't want to look at them, we don't want to think about them. We don't want to recognize and acknowledge that that's all of our futures, and we don't really I don't think we have come to terms with the realities of it because we don't want to come to terms of it within ourselves. But at some point there has to be an honest conversation about when we talk about when we take the keys away from aging parents, you know we don't want them driving. There's a reason why, Well.

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Speaker 2: The argument is going to be there. We don't have the ability to take the keys away. We can give the keys to an eighty year old to the White House. If we so choose, why shouldn't the voter just figure that out on there? I mean, that's the other argument to be made with you on the eighty however, I'm just giving you that other side.

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Speaker 3: Well, we have a we have an age limit for how old you have to be to be president, and to become president, it's thirty five. So why not have the same limitation on the other side. The reasons why, Obviously you want someone to be thirty five. You want to have them live enough life to have enough perspective and enough wisdom at that point to be able to lead our country. That makes sense. But I think the same could be said and absolutely should be said about the flip side of that.

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Speaker 2: Founders didn't put that in there, and therein lies the road.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we were living that old. I don't think we were living that long. We weren't living well enough for that to even be a consideration. Could that be possible?

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Speaker 2: We're talking about seventy eight and seventy nine and eighty year olds right now. Biden was eighty two when he left the.

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Speaker 3: White House, and those last two years where we watched and make it old and this You don't just you age differently, you age rapidly. I'm sorry, but each year it's a big difference. Just like you know when you're little, the difference between age three and five, it's the same. When you're getting older, it's a much more rapid I don't want to say progression, it's regression.

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Speaker 2: But it's seventy eight, eighty eighty two we're talking about now robes. The oldest before that was sixty nine, and that was Ronald Reagan.

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Speaker 3: That blew my mind.

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Speaker 2: And you remember how old his age was talking about. Certainly at the end of his second term, he was seventy seven at the end, but he was sixty nine. That was the oldest we had had sixteen and everybody thought he was old as all get out.

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Speaker 3: That seems so young to me now. Obviously, Ronald Reagan, I think where he was elected when I was in elementary school. But yes, he seemed so old, and everyone was taught. I even remember being a kid and hearing people talk about how old Ronald Reagan was. Sixty nine seems like a spring chicken now compared to what we're looking at.

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Speaker 2: But he ended up about his decline ended up Bolzheimer's Alzheimer afterwards, but there were some questions at the end of his term. Before that, the oldest was sixty eight. That was William Henry Harrison. He was the one who famously died a month a month later, got the sniffles and it turned into something worse and died a month later. Now, Rama, Manya is the one we're talking about. We're ope seventy five not a bad number, and if he wants to go lower, but he says, seventy five should be it.

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Speaker 3: Meaning you can't be elected past seventy five.

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Speaker 2: You can't serve, You retire the day you turn seventy five.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what I actually think that is you look a very I think that's a decent barometer right there. And look, I even go back to my father, who is one of the youngest men I know for his age. He's always been like that. But where he when he was in private business, Their private company said it doesn't matter how strong and fit and healthy and great you are, you have to retire at sixty five. Period they had that Rose is a private company. But my dad would have been phenomenal for another ten years. And I know that it was a little tough for him to have to step down and move into a different part of his professional career. But look, I get it. There are reasons why they want younger folks making really big decisions, and I think that that's a fair thing to say for our country as well.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: What to get it done, Romes, it would take us changing the constitution, and to do that was there two thirds of the House, two thirds of the Senate have to agree, and then three quarters of state legislature's robes have to then approve it.

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Speaker 3: That basically that's never going to happen.

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Speaker 2: That's very, very, very high bar. But age is connected to the twenty fifth Amendment. Ros HA been talked about so much. When we say can the president can be removed if they have been deemed to not have the mental capacity whatever to serve robes? This is kind of crazy and this is why it's important. But Woodrow Wilson had a stroke of office in nineteen nineteen, ended up in bed for the last year year and a half of his presidency wouldn't step down. So a lot of people looked at that and go, wow, there's nothing we can do because we didn't have any means to remove the president. Go back then to FDR nineteen forty five, he had a decline and died in office. We still don't have any mechanisms in place, Robes. Dwight Eisenhower had a heart attack in office. We didn't have mechanisms in place. What finally changed everything was the jfk assassination. So Rodes we talked about this. Everybody knows that image of LBJ taking their oath, But this is where the twenty fifth Amendment really got momentum. LBJ had a heart attack a couple of years before that that nearly killed him, and then the President pro Tem and the Speaker of the House, the next two in line, they were seventy one and eighty six. We get to a point, Whebes, we had people so old and LBJ in such poor health, the three people who were next in line to the presidency could drop dead at any moment. Was the calculation, because of age, because of health, and so the twenty fifth Amendment was then put in place. Age, Robes, age had a lot to do with the twenty fifth Amendment going into place, and I didn't realize that.

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Speaker 3: I didn't either. I had no idea that was an incredible history lesson, and yet we still are where we.

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Speaker 2: Are today with an eighty year old man.

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Speaker 3: Going in for his third visit in his second presidency. That's within a year, I guess, so it's a lot more than an annual apparently. But look, this could be a good thing, and we'll see what we learn from. What comes out of today will be up to President Trump. Correct, he decides what's released because the patients he's got, yes, Hippa right, you don't have to You've got a right to privacy, even if you are the president of the United State. So look, in the past, we've just heard like it's the best ever. He's the sharpest ever, he's the fittest ever. So look, it's hard to know that we're going to actually get any real information out of any of the tests that occur today.

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Speaker 2: Well, they released the you know, the I don't know, well the blood tests. They released that thing last time, hiwaight and PSA.

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Speaker 3: There are still questions about Joe Biden and how he when he had cancer, did he have cancer in office? What was withheld? What was unknown? What was actually given to the American people. You know, it's it's unclear still, So there are questions, and you can understand why a lot of Americans are skeptical about whatever information we do receive, just how thorough and just how real it is.

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Speaker 2: We don't do BMI anymore. Right, they don't use that anymore.

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard that in a while, and certainly people have said that that's an unfair way to gauge people's physical health.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the President was six three and twenty four pounds last physical. We'll see where he lands, probably not getting shorter, but we'll see where his weight lies this year. We're keeping an eye on it. Last time we got the result a couple of days later, so not sure how soon we will find out about the results of this physical, but we will let you know. But as always, we appreciate you spending time with us. I am TJ. Holmes On behalf of my dear Amy Robock. We'll talk to you also