June 11, 2026
“People Want Us Dead” Karmelo Anthony’s Parents Speak Out After Verdict
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RSS Feed The parents of 19-year-old Karmelo Anthony have given several, emotional interviews following their son’s murder conviction for stabbing fellow teen Austin Metcalf last year. The Anthony’s believe everyone lied on the stand and their son was never innocent until proven guilty. While Anthony’s legal team has already filed an appeal, his parents are concerned for their safety, saying people want their family dead even after “they got what they wanted” with Anthony’s conviction.
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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks did.
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Speaker 2: It's Thursday, June eleventh, and Carmelo Anthony's parents are talking and they say their child did not, in their words, get a fair shake and said everybody lied on the stand. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.
00:00:21
Speaker 1: Romes.
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Speaker 2: I saw you nodding your head because that is not that's not up for interpretation. That's what she said. Now, you know a lot of this is coming from a place of pain or pace of anger, but she's putting some stuff out there.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and look, she was understandably emotional. I don't even know how she was able to be composed enough to give an interview. I can't imagine what that would feel like and be like. And she sat in that courtroom every single day alongside her husband, and they watched their sudden fight for his life and they're upset because he lost it. I mean, he is in prison. He was sentenced for thirty five years. He was taken away in handcuffs, head was shaved, mugshot released, he was processed, and yes, they have access to him, but their son is gone for decades. Uh.
00:01:14
Speaker 2: It's a reminder of that robes. He was sentenced to thirty five years. I believe we have that right. He has to serve at least half of that before he is allowed to.
00:01:22
Speaker 1: Even be up for parole.
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Speaker 2: So I mean, you do those numbers, he could still be a That's crazy to think a thirty six, thirty seven year old man getting out of prison after a murder conviction. That is a thirty say you think about it, that's a really young man. That means you had to have gone in pretty young.
00:01:42
Speaker 4: Yes, he is a teenager.
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Speaker 3: He is nineteen years old, and his mother and father are very emotional. And look, they did make some statements that people will receive in different ways based on who you are and what and how much you followed in this case. But yes, for her to say that everybody lied on the stand, that is a pretty significant charge that I would imagine most people who were there in the court and certainly the reporters that was not the takeaway that they had.
00:02:15
Speaker 2: And I believe we do have that when in a SoundBite that you're going to hear in a moment, so yes, you're going to hear directly from them. But ropes they're during the rounds. Whys are things that they want to get off their chests are they think there is a PR war they need to be a part of as well. What did you take of why because they showed up in several places.
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Speaker 3: Yes, well I know that their son's attorneys they have already filed an appeal, so the fight continues. This isn't over for them, and so yes, I do think they are doing some PR work. They do want the support of the public as they try to garner a rallying cry of racism. Truly, the fact, first of all, that there were no black jurors seated in that jury is an issue for them. They talked about how they were encouraged, I believe to have a white lawyer. There were implications that perhaps that team undermined them. I think I heard the father say things like he wasn't objecting enough, he wasn't doing enough, and so they feel not served by or even it sounded like betrayed by the white attorneys who represented their son.
00:03:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot roes. So we hate that term to unpacked there, but there's a lot that's still left up for interpretation. They also, I mean rose, they took shots at the jury, if you will, and why wouldn't they suggesting that they did not listen to please for mercy, that they did not listen really, and that their minds were made up before.
00:03:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was sad to hear that both of Carmelo Anthony's parents believe, and you can tell when you listen to them and you watch them. They believe that the jury was against their son from the beginning, that they already had their minds made up, that they already knew they were going to convict him. That's tough to imagine, not only losing your son in the way they have, but to believe, truly believe that justice was not served and that an injustice actually was served in this case when it comes to their son, Carmelo.
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna let you hear from the parents now. The mom is gonna be doing most of the talking, and these soundbites we might stop in and out here, but most of them are kind of butted together. You'll be able to understand what she's talking about. But here are the parents now of Carmelo Anthony.
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Speaker 5: My son is no murder. My son didn't intend for her anyone. My son was defending him assef And that's what worked so bad.
00:04:54
Speaker 2: It's almost right, an argument's being made, or she's making the case he should have been convicted at all. This was self defense. Now, the defense didn't seem to put on much of a self defense case, but that is what they were trying to argue. And she's to hear her say that, Bro, it's almost like he has no responsibility.
00:05:14
Speaker 1: He should have walked down there.
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Speaker 3: Look, she's a mom, and she's speaking like I think most moms would. But the truth is, there wasn't really one witness. I don't think there was any witness that corroborated that self defense that Carmelo Anthony put up, not even the friend who he went over to see in that tent, and certainly not any of the prosecution witnesses or really truly any of the coaches, no one.
00:05:41
Speaker 4: No one backed that up.
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Speaker 3: They did back up the fact that he was upset, that he was crying, that he didn't run, that he admitted it, that he was worried about the condition of Austin metcalf So I, and we've talked about this in episodes. I understand where these parents might feel like their son deserved manslaughter or deserved a consideration for the sudden passion argument. I understand that completely, because truly I did think the jury would consider those things, and they didn't.
00:06:11
Speaker 2: Oh the parents continue, now take a listen.
00:06:14
Speaker 6: To have mercy on my son.
00:06:17
Speaker 5: That's what I told the jury.
00:06:21
Speaker 6: I know they had their minds made up already, so really much I could say to change.
00:06:29
Speaker 7: We were delusion.
00:06:30
Speaker 8: We thought we was going to get a fast shape.
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Speaker 6: Everyone actually lied on a stand everyone. All of the witnesses statements were inconsistent, all of them.
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Speaker 7: He was convicted.
00:06:42
Speaker 8: When he walked out of the jail. If you looked at the news all at you, he was already convicted. If you look at it, it was already, it was already done. It was no innocident to proven guilty. He was already guilty. People on as dead. That's what after.
00:06:58
Speaker 4: They still got what they want.
00:06:59
Speaker 7: Yeah, I been looking at my phone. People want to did they want our family did? We didn't get justice. A lot of things that were missed that should have been handled a certain way. However we couldn't say anything. We did what was instructed.
00:07:19
Speaker 8: We was told, we was told, So we just did what we was told.
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Speaker 1: What jumps out at you.
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Speaker 3: They feel betrayed, They feel betrayed by the community that they live in. They feel betrayed by the jurors who convicted their son, they feel betrayed by their attorneys.
00:07:37
Speaker 4: And they're upset.
00:07:39
Speaker 3: They think that everyone is against them and they had no shot ever of winning, and their son had no shot ever at being understood.
00:07:49
Speaker 2: That's I have to give you that and ropes. I can't get a good handle have you anywhere. I know it was a jury that did not have a black juror on it, but I also can't get straight if it was actually an all white jury.
00:08:07
Speaker 3: Yes, that has not been distinguished now. I initially when we were talking about this, I kind of jumped to the conclusion, remember that first day, Oh, is it an all white jury? And you were very quick to point out, no, there's just no black people on it. No one has reported anywhere that this was an all white jury. I do feel like reporters in the courtroom, if it was an all white jury, would have absolutely made that point. So I have to think that there had to be either you know, Hispanic Asian, there had to be some mix of some other ethnicity, because if it were a lily white jury, you gotta think that would be the headline everywhere.
00:08:43
Speaker 2: Certainly the lily part, and that was my addition, what do you make And it's been ugly, well, some of the scenes outside the courthouse have been ugly. Yes, anger is understandable, but some of this is getting ugly. And then don't even get started on the back and forth online. Oh that's there that are going around about well it's ugly.
00:09:10
Speaker 3: Well, look, you heard Carmelo Anthony's father say they want us dead. People want us dead. I go and look at my phone and people want us dead. And they're saying even after they got what they wanted, meaning Carmelo Anthony is going to prison for a very long time.
00:09:26
Speaker 4: So that sounded like real fear.
00:09:28
Speaker 3: And look, I even saw Carmelo Anthony's grandmother getting into the vehicle yelling racism, bias, prejudice, you know this is And then you oh the scenes of just a black person right in the face of a white person right in their face, talking two inches apart, not talking, yelling, spitting in each other's face, is yelling so violently at one another. It's so disheartening to see that spilling out in that way when it it's been said time and time again that this killing was not racially motivated. It had nothing to do with race, and yet now it has everything to do with race, and.
00:10:10
Speaker 1: Why is being talked about?
00:10:12
Speaker 2: And I guess we're always looking for who's right and who's wrong. I will stay here, folks, We'll get into that part of it. And the thing is everybody's right and yes, everybody's wrong.
00:10:26
Speaker 3: Stare Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ. We are talking about the aftermath of the Carmelo Anthony guilty verdict. Carmelo Anthony's parents went on several different news outlets in the hours and in the day that followed their son's guilty verdict. They're emotional, They're upset. They're talking about death threats. They're talking about the frustration of believing that the cards were stacked against them, that the jury had its mind made up, that their attorneys didn't do the job they should have, that this was a no win situation for their son, and they are demanding justice. In fact, we know that the Anthonys have already filed an appeal for the guilty verdict, but now they are on a pr mission of sorts to try and get people to understand where they're coming from.
00:11:25
Speaker 4: And what their experience was like during this trial.
00:11:28
Speaker 2: I know that's relevant as well. These folks are in pain and have been for quite some time. We can't do any comparative suffering. This mom is hurt more than that mom because this mom lost more. No, both of these people are hurting, and Robes to see you can hear the pain the frustration in some of the arguments that they're now making that robes it just when it flies in the face. I guess, of what's a lot of public opinion, and there are a lot of people who can relate to the look there are a lot of people who can relate. And this is where we're getting mixed up. Every black man that gets hauled into court is not the equivalent of Nelson Mandela, and some injustice being done. Sometimes that black man is guilty as hell, and sometimes Robes thems the breaks. But the justice system has been so unfair to minorities and in particular black men historically.
00:12:39
Speaker 1: That we ain't buying it.
00:12:41
Speaker 2: That we have a very difficult time thinking that, yes, a seventeen year old at the time black kid could get a fair shake in a place that has a jury that has nobody that looks like him on it. That part is real. But what we sometimes in the conversation robes seem like missing are facts of the actual crime. It seems like we're dismissing what the kid is doing and just going straight to a justice system that's unjust. We have to start with the crime itself, and he stabbed that kid and killed him. Let's talk about the fear. Let's talk about what the sentence should be, but it it falls on many people's deaf ears on a conversation that should be had.
00:13:30
Speaker 1: If people see the facts of this case.
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Speaker 2: And then just see a whole bunch of people yelling racism outside, that is where we're crazy.
00:13:39
Speaker 4: That's such a good point.
00:13:40
Speaker 2: We need to do a little better of how we're talking. And all we're doing is scream.
00:13:43
Speaker 3: Yes, and all we're wanting the other side to hear is what we have to say. We're not listening to the other side on both sides of this.
00:13:52
Speaker 2: Absolutely legit it justice system. Black man, that is a dilegit conversation. It's just not every single.
00:13:58
Speaker 3: Time correct, and they have valid points. I do think the fact that there was no black jer or on that jury is is a point that needs to be addressed and is grounds for an appeal. Absolutely, but yes, we get lost when we hear he's innocent, everybody's lying. You start making grand, generic accusations on both sides.
00:14:20
Speaker 4: People stop listening, they stop, they show your good point.
00:14:24
Speaker 3: Correct, yea correct, and look Austin Metcalf's dad actually did sit down with a local reporter as well the following day, the day after, and I did think it was interesting he he did say that this was the first morning, or the morning after the trial, was the first morning in eighteen months where he woke up and didn't feel like there was this heavy, suffocating weight on his chest, that that weight had been lifted, that he felt like he could now start healing. That he couldn't even begin the healing or grieving process of losing his son until he saw justice.
00:14:59
Speaker 4: And I guess that makes sense too.
00:15:01
Speaker 3: And it was interesting to hear his conversation with the reporter versus the pain and the frustration and the anger that the Anthony family is feeling right now.
00:15:10
Speaker 4: And look, he did say this.
00:15:11
Speaker 3: I thought this was interesting. I don't know if you've heard this part. The reporter asked Austin Metcalf's dad how did it feel sitting in the courtroom six straight days in the same room as the man who killed your son? And he said it was uncomfortable, and he was honest about that, how it was absolutely uncomfortable to be in the same room. But then he also said, you may not believe this, but I also felt sad because he said, I knew I was looking at another young man who was going to absolutely be forced to live in conditions and to live in a way that he wouldn't wish on his worst enemy. And I did think that that was something to at least hear him say he felt. He didn't say compassion, empathy, but that is what he was describing.
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Speaker 2: And that's, oh, hey, you can feel sadness for Carmelo Anthony and his family without dishonoring Austin Metcalf, you can't. Yeah, And to hear it from the dad, to put it that way, and as a dad, is any parent you see another kid life going that direction? Nobody wants to know that RBS. But yeah, the parents are talking. I don't think they're done, Rugues probably I don't either.
00:16:27
Speaker 3: More from them, Yes, And with this appeal working its way through the courses and Obviously, these are the early days. This story and this case is not going away. There will be much much more on this, and I'm sure the discussions online will continue as well. But look, maybe someone, one person, maybe well we'll listen, we'll learn, There's always an opportunity to do that in these types of cases, but we always appreciate you listening to us.
00:16:52
Speaker 4: Everyone. I'm Amy Roboch alongside TJ. Holmes. We will talk to you soon.
00:17:00
Speaker 5: Two
Speaker 1: Hey, that folks did.
00:00:02
Speaker 2: It's Thursday, June eleventh, and Carmelo Anthony's parents are talking and they say their child did not, in their words, get a fair shake and said everybody lied on the stand. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.
00:00:21
Speaker 1: Romes.
00:00:22
Speaker 2: I saw you nodding your head because that is not that's not up for interpretation. That's what she said. Now, you know a lot of this is coming from a place of pain or pace of anger, but she's putting some stuff out there.
00:00:35
Speaker 3: Yes, and look, she was understandably emotional. I don't even know how she was able to be composed enough to give an interview. I can't imagine what that would feel like and be like. And she sat in that courtroom every single day alongside her husband, and they watched their sudden fight for his life and they're upset because he lost it. I mean, he is in prison. He was sentenced for thirty five years. He was taken away in handcuffs, head was shaved, mugshot released, he was processed, and yes, they have access to him, but their son is gone for decades. Uh.
00:01:14
Speaker 2: It's a reminder of that robes. He was sentenced to thirty five years. I believe we have that right. He has to serve at least half of that before he is allowed to.
00:01:22
Speaker 1: Even be up for parole.
00:01:23
Speaker 2: So I mean, you do those numbers, he could still be a That's crazy to think a thirty six, thirty seven year old man getting out of prison after a murder conviction. That is a thirty say you think about it, that's a really young man. That means you had to have gone in pretty young.
00:01:42
Speaker 4: Yes, he is a teenager.
00:01:43
Speaker 3: He is nineteen years old, and his mother and father are very emotional. And look, they did make some statements that people will receive in different ways based on who you are and what and how much you followed in this case. But yes, for her to say that everybody lied on the stand, that is a pretty significant charge that I would imagine most people who were there in the court and certainly the reporters that was not the takeaway that they had.
00:02:15
Speaker 2: And I believe we do have that when in a SoundBite that you're going to hear in a moment, so yes, you're going to hear directly from them. But ropes they're during the rounds. Whys are things that they want to get off their chests are they think there is a PR war they need to be a part of as well. What did you take of why because they showed up in several places.
00:02:34
Speaker 3: Yes, well I know that their son's attorneys they have already filed an appeal, so the fight continues. This isn't over for them, and so yes, I do think they are doing some PR work. They do want the support of the public as they try to garner a rallying cry of racism. Truly, the fact, first of all, that there were no black jurors seated in that jury is an issue for them. They talked about how they were encouraged, I believe to have a white lawyer. There were implications that perhaps that team undermined them. I think I heard the father say things like he wasn't objecting enough, he wasn't doing enough, and so they feel not served by or even it sounded like betrayed by the white attorneys who represented their son.
00:03:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot roes. So we hate that term to unpacked there, but there's a lot that's still left up for interpretation. They also, I mean rose, they took shots at the jury, if you will, and why wouldn't they suggesting that they did not listen to please for mercy, that they did not listen really, and that their minds were made up before.
00:03:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was sad to hear that both of Carmelo Anthony's parents believe, and you can tell when you listen to them and you watch them. They believe that the jury was against their son from the beginning, that they already had their minds made up, that they already knew they were going to convict him. That's tough to imagine, not only losing your son in the way they have, but to believe, truly believe that justice was not served and that an injustice actually was served in this case when it comes to their son, Carmelo.
00:04:20
Speaker 2: So we're gonna let you hear from the parents now. The mom is gonna be doing most of the talking, and these soundbites we might stop in and out here, but most of them are kind of butted together. You'll be able to understand what she's talking about. But here are the parents now of Carmelo Anthony.
00:04:40
Speaker 5: My son is no murder. My son didn't intend for her anyone. My son was defending him assef And that's what worked so bad.
00:04:54
Speaker 2: It's almost right, an argument's being made, or she's making the case he should have been convicted at all. This was self defense. Now, the defense didn't seem to put on much of a self defense case, but that is what they were trying to argue. And she's to hear her say that, Bro, it's almost like he has no responsibility.
00:05:14
Speaker 1: He should have walked down there.
00:05:16
Speaker 3: Look, she's a mom, and she's speaking like I think most moms would. But the truth is, there wasn't really one witness. I don't think there was any witness that corroborated that self defense that Carmelo Anthony put up, not even the friend who he went over to see in that tent, and certainly not any of the prosecution witnesses or really truly any of the coaches, no one.
00:05:41
Speaker 4: No one backed that up.
00:05:42
Speaker 3: They did back up the fact that he was upset, that he was crying, that he didn't run, that he admitted it, that he was worried about the condition of Austin metcalf So I, and we've talked about this in episodes. I understand where these parents might feel like their son deserved manslaughter or deserved a consideration for the sudden passion argument. I understand that completely, because truly I did think the jury would consider those things, and they didn't.
00:06:11
Speaker 2: Oh the parents continue, now take a listen.
00:06:14
Speaker 6: To have mercy on my son.
00:06:17
Speaker 5: That's what I told the jury.
00:06:21
Speaker 6: I know they had their minds made up already, so really much I could say to change.
00:06:29
Speaker 7: We were delusion.
00:06:30
Speaker 8: We thought we was going to get a fast shape.
00:06:32
Speaker 6: Everyone actually lied on a stand everyone. All of the witnesses statements were inconsistent, all of them.
00:06:39
Speaker 7: He was convicted.
00:06:42
Speaker 8: When he walked out of the jail. If you looked at the news all at you, he was already convicted. If you look at it, it was already, it was already done. It was no innocident to proven guilty. He was already guilty. People on as dead. That's what after.
00:06:58
Speaker 4: They still got what they want.
00:06:59
Speaker 7: Yeah, I been looking at my phone. People want to did they want our family did? We didn't get justice. A lot of things that were missed that should have been handled a certain way. However we couldn't say anything. We did what was instructed.
00:07:19
Speaker 8: We was told, we was told, So we just did what we was told.
00:07:23
Speaker 1: What jumps out at you.
00:07:27
Speaker 3: They feel betrayed, They feel betrayed by the community that they live in. They feel betrayed by the jurors who convicted their son, they feel betrayed by their attorneys.
00:07:37
Speaker 4: And they're upset.
00:07:39
Speaker 3: They think that everyone is against them and they had no shot ever of winning, and their son had no shot ever at being understood.
00:07:49
Speaker 2: That's I have to give you that and ropes. I can't get a good handle have you anywhere. I know it was a jury that did not have a black juror on it, but I also can't get straight if it was actually an all white jury.
00:08:07
Speaker 3: Yes, that has not been distinguished now. I initially when we were talking about this, I kind of jumped to the conclusion, remember that first day, Oh, is it an all white jury? And you were very quick to point out, no, there's just no black people on it. No one has reported anywhere that this was an all white jury. I do feel like reporters in the courtroom, if it was an all white jury, would have absolutely made that point. So I have to think that there had to be either you know, Hispanic Asian, there had to be some mix of some other ethnicity, because if it were a lily white jury, you gotta think that would be the headline everywhere.
00:08:43
Speaker 2: Certainly the lily part, and that was my addition, what do you make And it's been ugly, well, some of the scenes outside the courthouse have been ugly. Yes, anger is understandable, but some of this is getting ugly. And then don't even get started on the back and forth online. Oh that's there that are going around about well it's ugly.
00:09:10
Speaker 3: Well, look, you heard Carmelo Anthony's father say they want us dead. People want us dead. I go and look at my phone and people want us dead. And they're saying even after they got what they wanted, meaning Carmelo Anthony is going to prison for a very long time.
00:09:26
Speaker 4: So that sounded like real fear.
00:09:28
Speaker 3: And look, I even saw Carmelo Anthony's grandmother getting into the vehicle yelling racism, bias, prejudice, you know this is And then you oh the scenes of just a black person right in the face of a white person right in their face, talking two inches apart, not talking, yelling, spitting in each other's face, is yelling so violently at one another. It's so disheartening to see that spilling out in that way when it it's been said time and time again that this killing was not racially motivated. It had nothing to do with race, and yet now it has everything to do with race, and.
00:10:10
Speaker 1: Why is being talked about?
00:10:12
Speaker 2: And I guess we're always looking for who's right and who's wrong. I will stay here, folks, We'll get into that part of it. And the thing is everybody's right and yes, everybody's wrong.
00:10:26
Speaker 3: Stare Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ. We are talking about the aftermath of the Carmelo Anthony guilty verdict. Carmelo Anthony's parents went on several different news outlets in the hours and in the day that followed their son's guilty verdict. They're emotional, They're upset. They're talking about death threats. They're talking about the frustration of believing that the cards were stacked against them, that the jury had its mind made up, that their attorneys didn't do the job they should have, that this was a no win situation for their son, and they are demanding justice. In fact, we know that the Anthonys have already filed an appeal for the guilty verdict, but now they are on a pr mission of sorts to try and get people to understand where they're coming from.
00:11:25
Speaker 4: And what their experience was like during this trial.
00:11:28
Speaker 2: I know that's relevant as well. These folks are in pain and have been for quite some time. We can't do any comparative suffering. This mom is hurt more than that mom because this mom lost more. No, both of these people are hurting, and Robes to see you can hear the pain the frustration in some of the arguments that they're now making that robes it just when it flies in the face. I guess, of what's a lot of public opinion, and there are a lot of people who can relate to the look there are a lot of people who can relate. And this is where we're getting mixed up. Every black man that gets hauled into court is not the equivalent of Nelson Mandela, and some injustice being done. Sometimes that black man is guilty as hell, and sometimes Robes thems the breaks. But the justice system has been so unfair to minorities and in particular black men historically.
00:12:39
Speaker 1: That we ain't buying it.
00:12:41
Speaker 2: That we have a very difficult time thinking that, yes, a seventeen year old at the time black kid could get a fair shake in a place that has a jury that has nobody that looks like him on it. That part is real. But what we sometimes in the conversation robes seem like missing are facts of the actual crime. It seems like we're dismissing what the kid is doing and just going straight to a justice system that's unjust. We have to start with the crime itself, and he stabbed that kid and killed him. Let's talk about the fear. Let's talk about what the sentence should be, but it it falls on many people's deaf ears on a conversation that should be had.
00:13:30
Speaker 1: If people see the facts of this case.
00:13:32
Speaker 2: And then just see a whole bunch of people yelling racism outside, that is where we're crazy.
00:13:39
Speaker 4: That's such a good point.
00:13:40
Speaker 2: We need to do a little better of how we're talking. And all we're doing is scream.
00:13:43
Speaker 3: Yes, and all we're wanting the other side to hear is what we have to say. We're not listening to the other side on both sides of this.
00:13:52
Speaker 2: Absolutely legit it justice system. Black man, that is a dilegit conversation. It's just not every single.
00:13:58
Speaker 3: Time correct, and they have valid points. I do think the fact that there was no black jer or on that jury is is a point that needs to be addressed and is grounds for an appeal. Absolutely, but yes, we get lost when we hear he's innocent, everybody's lying. You start making grand, generic accusations on both sides.
00:14:20
Speaker 4: People stop listening, they stop, they show your good point.
00:14:24
Speaker 3: Correct, yea correct, and look Austin Metcalf's dad actually did sit down with a local reporter as well the following day, the day after, and I did think it was interesting he he did say that this was the first morning, or the morning after the trial, was the first morning in eighteen months where he woke up and didn't feel like there was this heavy, suffocating weight on his chest, that that weight had been lifted, that he felt like he could now start healing. That he couldn't even begin the healing or grieving process of losing his son until he saw justice.
00:14:59
Speaker 4: And I guess that makes sense too.
00:15:01
Speaker 3: And it was interesting to hear his conversation with the reporter versus the pain and the frustration and the anger that the Anthony family is feeling right now.
00:15:10
Speaker 4: And look, he did say this.
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Speaker 3: I thought this was interesting. I don't know if you've heard this part. The reporter asked Austin Metcalf's dad how did it feel sitting in the courtroom six straight days in the same room as the man who killed your son? And he said it was uncomfortable, and he was honest about that, how it was absolutely uncomfortable to be in the same room. But then he also said, you may not believe this, but I also felt sad because he said, I knew I was looking at another young man who was going to absolutely be forced to live in conditions and to live in a way that he wouldn't wish on his worst enemy. And I did think that that was something to at least hear him say he felt. He didn't say compassion, empathy, but that is what he was describing.
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Speaker 2: And that's, oh, hey, you can feel sadness for Carmelo Anthony and his family without dishonoring Austin Metcalf, you can't. Yeah, And to hear it from the dad, to put it that way, and as a dad, is any parent you see another kid life going that direction? Nobody wants to know that RBS. But yeah, the parents are talking. I don't think they're done, Rugues probably I don't either.
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Speaker 3: More from them, Yes, And with this appeal working its way through the courses and Obviously, these are the early days. This story and this case is not going away. There will be much much more on this, and I'm sure the discussions online will continue as well. But look, maybe someone, one person, maybe well we'll listen, we'll learn, There's always an opportunity to do that in these types of cases, but we always appreciate you listening to us.
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Speaker 4: Everyone. I'm Amy Roboch alongside TJ. Holmes. We will talk to you soon.
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