Oct. 27, 2026
Parents Say Police Called To Youth Soccer Game Because 3-Year-Old Black Boy “Too Good”
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RSS Feed The latest online controversy is heartbreaking, namely because there is a super talented, 3-year-old little boy in the middle of it. Nevada Pierre has a huge and growing social media presence because he’s got game; the videos posted show a toddler phenom on the soccer field and that’s what his parents say got other parents upset at a youth soccer game over the weekend. The sports organizer ultimately called 9-1-1 on the parents - admittedly not for an emergency - but because he claimed the mom was “unruly” after complaining her son was taken out of the game because he was “too good.” The highlight of this story: the cops, whose body cam footage shows officers who were there to protect and serve everyone that day.
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00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. And I quote, they called police on a three-year-old because he's too good. And with that, welcome, everybody. That's Rogues on TJ. This should not be a story at all. Cooler heads, better heads, baby. Kinder heads should have prevailed in the story that it seems like everybody is talking about right now.
00:00:25
Speaker 2: That's right. There was no reason whatsoever for police to be called. And especially when you hear the 911 call. Yes, we're hearing from the parents that they believe the police were called because parents wanted their kid off the soccer field because he is such a phenom. And by the way, he's three. The other kids were five. The person calling 911 claims that he had an unruly mother. However, here's the asterisk and here's the problem with being on that side of things, he asked them to hurry because the parents were leaving.
00:01:02
Speaker 1: Okay. And again, this is really, really caught fire. It happened over the weekend, as of this recording, happened over the weekend in Florida, Winter Park, Florida, just north of Orlando, I believe it is. And the video is all over the place. And this kid is phenomenal. I don't think we're going too far. He might be right there on the edge. This might be a phenom. This might be a kid who is a special talent that we see years down the road. Three years old.
00:01:28
Speaker 2: Like a Tiger Woods kind of phenom.
00:01:31
Speaker 1: Three. He's three, and he is running circles around kids who are older than he is. That is who we're talking about. That is what we're talking about. Robes, how do we get to a point that police get called because he is, okay, They claim the call was made because the police were being, excuse me, the parents were being disrupted.
00:01:57
Speaker 2: Unruly was the word used, I think.
00:01:59
Speaker 1: We haven't seen, have you seen any indication, have you seen any video that confirms that?
00:02:05
Speaker 2: No. No.
00:02:06
Speaker 1: All right. No.
00:02:07
Speaker 2: Only the organizer who called 911 saying that mom was being unruly and claiming, I believe, that In a past game, she called him ignorant for taking her kid out.
00:02:18
Speaker 1: Okay, so.
00:02:18
Speaker 2: So there might have been some personal beef there.
00:02:21
Speaker 1: Let's even go with that. Hey, ignorant. Hey, dumbass. And I call 911. We can make that argument still, but let's not go there. But people, I think you all know the story as of now. Three-year-old boy, his name is Nevada. He's from Florida, but he is. He has how many followers online?
00:02:39
Speaker 2: Oh, he has over half a million followers on Instagram, and I would encourage anyone to look up Nevada Pierre is his name.
00:02:47
Speaker 1: But Rose, he had these followers before all this because he is impressive.
00:02:53
Speaker 2: He's wildly talented.
00:02:55
Speaker 1: Three years old, handling that ball well. Dribbling that soccer ball like, quite frankly, you just don't see. So let's just call it what it is. He's crushing these kids. Crushing them. So at some point, police get called. Rose, you listened to this 911 call. I did. I listened to this 911 call. We have some of the verbatim here. What did you hear from this guy?
00:03:16
Speaker 2: I heard a guy who was annoyed and wanted these parents publicly shamed for their reaction because there's no reason. There was no reason to call police. They were leaving. And he even said, please hurry. Can this be urgent? Not because it's an emergency. And he even acknowledges it's not an emergency. But he just wants to make sure police intercept this. these parents before they leave because he felt like they were disruptive and he was angry. He was pissed at these parents and this was his revenge, period. Obviously if they were leaving, there was no need to call police, there was no crime being committed.
00:03:55
Speaker 1: And there was no suggestion of violence or threat to anybody, right?
00:03:58
Speaker 2: No, none whatsoever. And look, we can get into it, but part of what was going on is this organizer had a bunch of other parents, it appears, who were upset that their kids didn't get to play or were being outplayed or didn't get a chance to score a goal or didn't get to feel like they were doing something positive because this other kid was stealing the show and hogging the ball or whatever, just scoring too many goals. So it's one of those things where I don't know People get, obviously, very protective of their own kids and their right to play. But the reality is, I was looking at it from the perspective of, if I'm a parent, but maybe I'm not like the rest, I'd be just so excited to watch this kid do what he's doing.
00:04:49
Speaker 1: These youth leagues can be crazy places.
00:04:51
Speaker 2: They can be.
00:04:52
Speaker 1: We've all been there.
00:04:53
Speaker 2: You're right.
00:04:53
Speaker 1: And the coaches, I do not envy the position they have when every parent thinks their kid is the next.
00:05:00
Speaker 2: Or has some right to have a certain amount of playing.
00:05:02
Speaker 1: Time on the field. Yes, yes. We get that. And that seems to be something that played into the dynamics in this particular story. We have the excerpts from the 911 call here, and you're right. Guy calls 911. Again, this is the organizer of a youth league down in Florida. Calls 911 and says this, quote, It's really not an emergency. I have an unruly parent here calling me names and having me on Instagram. For me to look bad. Uh-huh.
00:05:33
Speaker 2: That means his pride was flaring. His ego was flaring.
00:05:38
Speaker 1: Well, he said that to a 911 operator. I know this is an emergency. She's making me look bad on Instagram. I just called 911. Bro, that's how he started the call. By the way, that's one of the first things he said. That is.
00:05:58
Speaker 2: That is, and that is his, those are his words. That isn't anyone interpreting them. Those were his words. He goes on to say, there's a parent here that's really disruptive, like following me around and calling me names in front of a whole bunch of people that's here. So I want her gone. Can you send someone quickly? But then he's saying he wants them to come quickly because they're leaving.
00:06:24
Speaker 1: Leaving.
00:06:25
Speaker 2: But the reason why he claims he wants police there is so that they can be gone. But if they were leaving anyway, let's actually start to ask ourselves why he wanted the police there.
00:06:38
Speaker 1: Now, police, by the time I got there, the game was over. The kids were walking off. The game was not still going on. I didn't focus on that enough. Robes, why if they were leaving there? that the police need to get there quickly.
00:06:50
Speaker 2: Because he wanted to say, look at me, I called police on you, now you have to answer their questions. It was his power play back at them because she was calling him According to him, we don't know. No one has video or audio of her calling him ignorant.
00:07:05
Speaker 1: And maybe that'll come out.
00:07:06
Speaker 2: And maybe she did. And maybe that is what she did. Maybe she called him stupid. Maybe she called him ignorant. Maybe she called him a lot of names because he was stupidly, in her opinion, not having the best player on the team on the field because he was yielding to other parents pressure of let my kid play. So that might all well be true. It doesn't mean you call police on someone.
00:07:27
Speaker 1: This is really odd. Now, of course, Robes is a youth soccer game, soccer match. You could assume a bunch of parents had cameras out. If there is video of what he is saying, she did, then that should come out. But Robes, even he is not describing a scene where he feels threatened. He's not describing a dangerous scene. He is not describing a crime. He is describing an annoyance. he's describing as you're a youth soccer organizer. Dealing with parents are part of your job. Dealing with pissed off parents, it's a part of your job. Managing kids, you don't want to pass the ball, it's a part of your job. Managing all this, it might be job number one before you even teach soccer skills. You're teaching life skills. And every parent That calls you a name? Or, Robes, you deal with this differently. I do not know. I'm waiting to see that video. Something very serious had to have been done. The level to call 911. Robes, we can't make it through a city block in New York without having a reason to call 911 if this is the standard. He won't make it in this city.
00:08:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would not. And, frankly, I think it's fair. Again, we could see other video that says otherwise. It's not out right now.
00:08:46
Speaker 1: Not yet.
00:08:47
Speaker 2: To call 911 over something like this, to me, is actually a crime. That is a misuse of police resources. There was absolutely zero need for police to be called. And yet the message this sends, and have we said that this little phenomenal, unbelievable soccer player, Nevada Pierre, is black? I don't know the race of anyone else, the 911 caller.
00:09:11
Speaker 1: We're going to get into this.
00:09:13
Speaker 2: Don't know any of that.
00:09:14
Speaker 1: It's a very important part of this story, how central it is to the story, we don't know. But it is impacting people differently, Robes, based on their own life experiences, me included. Now, he called 911, Robes. He says his parent is being disruptive. All the body cam video is out. Two cops show up. I want to talk about them in a little bit.
00:09:34
Speaker 2: Robes.
00:09:36
Speaker 1: They gave, this is how police should act. I don't know anything about these two. I don't know their disciplinary record. They might not have one. What I'm saying is, Rose.
00:09:45
Speaker 2: I appreciated how they handled it.
00:09:46
Speaker 1: There is something on the side of a police car that says to protect and serve. This was service. I don't think they focus enough sometimes, cops, on the serve part. They served their community, I think, in a very exact way.
00:10:00
Speaker 2: Way.
00:10:01
Speaker 1: I really, they're a highlight of this story for me.
00:10:04
Speaker 2: They really are.
00:10:05
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about them some more, but they were a highlight. So they show up, the robes, but when they get there, the organizer, and you see this all play out, he's starting to, his story shifts a little bit to where it's not just about the disruptive parents. He starts on The kid. Kids pushing. He claims in the video now.
00:10:24
Speaker 2: That Nevada was pushing other kids.
00:10:28
Speaker 1: And that's what the problem was. That the kid's not being a good sportsman. And he was pushing everybody else. And that's why we had to get involved. And then the parents got disrupted. That was his claim. The parents, you see them on video as well, said we were not disruptive at all. Said the kid wasn't pushing. The mom posted a long video, she says, of the entire game. I don't see a little trio. He's the smallest one on the field.
00:10:53
Speaker 2: He is literally, like you said, crushing. It's a pleasure to watch.
00:10:59
Speaker 1: It's a joy. It's a joy.
00:11:00
Speaker 2: I can say this, and maybe I know I'm not like other parents, but I don't expect my kids to be the best. When I see someone who is amazing, I'm like, oh my God, that kid. And when you watch what his mom posted from this game, this little pipsqueak of a kid is just, just running circles around everyone else with the ball and scoring and scoring and scoring and scoring. And yeah, maybe that is really annoying to other parents who feel like their kids are getting deflated and discouraged because you have the, but so what? I think you and I, and not every parent agrees, but I have never been a fan of everybody gets a medal and everybody's a winner because that ain't how life is. And it's not that I don't think, but kids need to be learning these lessons, that there are going to be people who are better than you, smarter than you, quicker than you. have advantages over you. And that's part of learning how to adapt and grow through life, to pave the way for the kids and throw rose petals and say, that's so unfair to kids because they have this expectation that life is supposed to be something different than what it is, which isn't necessarily equal.
00:12:10
Speaker 1: But equality for them to level the playing field is to kick him out. That's so unfair. To level the playing field. There's a kid that's two, three years younger than you that's whooping your ass. Get him out of here. And that is how we're going to make sure everything's cool for you, my child. I am not okay with that. That's a tough one, man. And watching this video, Robes, there was a point in the body cam video where you see this.
00:12:38
Speaker 2: I know. I started to cry, too. This sweet, you're going to get emotional and I know what you're about to say, this sweet little three-year-old who, by the way, trains three hours a day with his dad to be what he is. Yes, he was probably born skilled, but that's a skill he has crafted. And you have to give him and his father credit for the fact that they sit there for three hours a day and work on his skills. And when he gets out on that field and he shows everybody up, he's told he can't play because he's too good or... That's what it certainly seems like. And the little boy, when he sees police approaching his parents, has this look of fear and shame and just all of that, just on this little, sweet, innocent, talented-as-hell little boy's face. It is heartbreaking.
00:13:27
Speaker 1: It is heartbreaking. So that's the moment that changes this story for a lot of people, including black men in particular, who recognize that particular moment And it's an experience that many of us have had in our lives, Rose, but we shouldn't have it at three. His first experience with police officers is that they got called on him at three.
00:13:48
Speaker 2: And his parents say he is traumatized. And you would understand why. He sees everyone talking about him. Parents, coaches. his own parents, police coming. He's proud of himself, right? You're three, you're killing it, you're doing incredible work, and all of a sudden you see my parents are in trouble. People are angry at me. And all of a sudden now he doesn't even want to go back to that soccer field, a game he loves. And he's, I understand, he doesn't know, he doesn't get how cruel people are, how thin-skinned people are, how egos work. It's so unfair.
00:14:25
Speaker 1: Everybody failed that kid.
00:14:26
Speaker 2: Everybody did.
00:14:27
Speaker 1: They even throw his parents in there. This should have been calmed down to where I am watching a police body cam video of a little boy walking over to a police officer asking, what's going on? Because that kid is the reason the police got called. He's three.
00:14:47
Speaker 2: Nevada wasn't passing the ball enough, so 911 was called.
00:14:50
Speaker 1: But that's the other part too, baby. You know what I... You know how many times in my life and growing up in youth sports, I got benched for not doing what the coach said, which is pass more. I used to get benched for not shooting enough. You're teaching the kid. We're supposed to be teaching him to pass and how to be better at youth. And instead, we call the cops on him. So the police body cam video gets there and the organizer wrote, we have the quote here. He's saying to the police and he admits how good the kid is. But then he goes into someâ it doesn't make sense, baby.
00:15:22
Speaker 2: Yes, this is what the organizer tells police. This is the oneâ this is on body cam. The kid is good, is great. He's very advanced compared to the other ones. He scores a lot of goals.
00:15:33
Speaker 1: Yes, he does.
00:15:34
Speaker 2: But he pushes the other kids. I took the kid out, and they tell me I'm ignorant. But he pushes the kids.
00:15:41
Speaker 1: Okay, so, I mean, maybe that's the case. just saying there's no indication of that.
00:15:46
Speaker 2: Right. There's no indication, but as you pointed out, as the coach, you've got this phenom of a player. Yes, he might be aggressive. Part of what makes him good, he knows how to get around folks. And look, if you watch professional sports, hello. But yes, that's the coach's job to teach him to pass more, to not be as physically aggressive, perhaps, in trying to get to a goal.
00:16:07
Speaker 1: And let's keep in mind, if anybody's hearing this and thinking, oh my goodness, soccer, this ain't World Cup where they're knocking the hell out of each other. They don't even practice. They say just throw the kids out there and they run up and down and chase the ball around. And there happened to be one kid who knows they can't catch him in a full sprint when they're doing nothing. He's sprinting with the ball. They still can't catch him. The goals he's showing, there's nobody, he's scoring, there's nobody between him and the goal. He's just up in front of the goal. He gets there by himself. The kid is awesome just for the shits and giggles. Oh, my goodness.
00:16:40
Speaker 2: Even watching his practice videos with his dad. He's catching balls on the back of his foot.
00:16:45
Speaker 1: He's crazy.
00:16:46
Speaker 2: He's amazing. He is going to be the next Messi. He is going to be the next David Beckham. I mean, he really has that. It's hard to imagine unless something traumatic like this. I would hate to think. But there are some silver linings to the story because this has certainly happened. caught the attention of a lot of folks as it should have. But the mom said to police, after we hear that on the body cam from the coach saying, he's pushing kids, you know, he won't pass the ball. The mom says, they're mad at my kid because he plays soccer. They're literally kicking him out of this place because he's good at soccer.
00:17:22
Speaker 1: That's their take on it. And that's how they see it. And okay, but this is what she goes on to explain Robes and why this got nasty. She claims that almost immediately after the game started, all the other parents and the coaches and organizers got into a huddle. They huddled up together almost immediately after the game started and tried to put together a plan for what we could do about this kid. She claims that they are plotting, essentially, against her kid and pressuring the organizers that we're going to leave if you don't get that kid out of here. Wow. That's her claim. Wow.
00:18:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she said this actually later in an interview. She said as soon as he started the game, they stopped the game. Other parents, the director, and some of the coaches got in a circle, and I knew they were talking about Nevada, trying to figure out how to let us know that he can't play so the other kids could play. That's tough. When you devote that much time to helping your son... become the best of the best, and he comes out there on the field and he shows it. And then you have to tell him, you don't get to play because the other kids aren't as good as you. How do you explain that.
00:18:42
Speaker 1: To a kid?
00:18:43
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I guess, and this is where the coaching comes in. Use that kid. Have that kid be an asset on your team. I understand this is very young. These are very young kids playing, but yes, teach him to pass. Teach him about the assist. Have him be an integral team member who understands what teammates are all about. And that this isn't an individual sport, but this is a team sport. These are all opportunities for him to learn and grow. He's three. He's three.
00:19:11
Speaker 1: That's why they have him in the league, Ro. So he's not just out there with his dad. He has to learn a team sport. The coaches are supposed to be teaching him this. 9-1-1 got called. The game changed. So the parents claim here, Robes, forgive me here, the parents claim that there's no way they could have been harassing or doing anything because they don't even interact with the other parents. They said they don't even hang out with them, stand with them, they're apart. So that was another part of the story. rose we got at least we got statement from the city a statement from police a statement from the youth league everybody is having to chime in on this thing over a three how how do we get here we every single day there's a story that comes up somewhere in our feed that we say out loud man we got to treat each other better man just give each other a little grace in this moment Why wasn't the priority this three-year-old kid?
00:20:14
Speaker 2: Why couldn't other parents? I'm saying this. I'm not trying to be some naive Pollyanna here, but why couldn't there be some recognition from other parents? I understand you want your kids to play. Everybody wants to see their kid on the field. Everyone wants their kid to get a chance. I do, as a parent, understand that. But how about embrace this family and say, your kid is amazing. How did he learn those skills? Embrace them. Bring them into the fold. Have them be a part of your team. Have it be a community instead of your kid's better than us. Let's immediately go to fear and anger and all of those things that seem to have played a part in what unraveled on that soccer field.
00:20:53
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm trying to, again, give those other parents some grace as well. They paid their money to get into this league, and now their kid can't even get close enough to touch the ball. Maybe you would be upset. But the thing is, babe, that dims the brakes.
00:21:07
Speaker 2: That's life.
00:21:08
Speaker 1: Dims the brakes, man.
00:21:09
Speaker 2: Your kid's going to have to figure out how to navigate life when people are better, smarter, more talented, better looking, richer, all of those things. And look, this is, it's such an awful thing that happened, but I hope, I hope that better things come out of it. And that poor little sweet boy who has such a bright future, that that look on his face, that first and not the last look of disappointment and confusion is hopefully going to evolve into more opportunities, more people recognizing what this kid actually can do. And this should be a positive story. I think that's the frustrating thing. This should be a positive story.
00:21:55
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, because he is awesome. You know, more people are going to know about him and see him and he's going to get more opportunity now.
00:22:00
Speaker 2: That's the silver lining. It came at a heavy cost.
00:22:02
Speaker 1: Yeah. A cop had to be called on a kid when he was three. I don't care what scholarship he gets.
00:22:09
Speaker 2: Yeah. That.
00:22:12
Speaker 1: It's tough.
00:22:13
Speaker 2: The police statement. Let's read this because this is what the Winter Park Police Department put out. They said, we were contacted by a soccer league official who requested response to a disturbance between league officials and the parents of a player. The league requested the family leave and was offered to refund the league cost to the family. While they weren't just kicking them out of the game, they were kicking them out of the league. Shortly after arrival, the officers were requested by the league official to communicate with the family as he did not want to further a disturbance. The family stated the game was over and they were leaving. The family was cooperative with the officers and were provided an event number for the incident at their request. The incident was a civil matter between these parties and not criminal. No one was arrested, trespassed, or forced to leave the park. The officer's body-worn cameras confirm the above information.
00:23:10
Speaker 1: Can you do the Youth League statement next?
00:23:12
Speaker 2: Yes, the Youth League statement is as follows. We are aware of concerns being shared regarding an incident at a local I-9 sports program, and we take them very seriously. The respectful treatment and well-being of every child and family matter deeply to us. We have reached out to the family and have begun a review that includes speaking with those involved. While we work to understand the circumstances, we will not speculate or share unverified information. We appreciate everyone who has brought their concerns to our attention. All right.
00:23:46
Speaker 1: So then the city put out a statement here, Robes, where it felt a little CYA. It felt like they had some more explaining to do with something they were trying to get across. But you read this other one. I'm curious what you make of this one, too. But they put out a longer statement after this thing really got going online.
00:24:05
Speaker 2: Yes. They said the Winter Park Police Department has received numerous inquiries into a call that was received over the weekend and would like to provide the following information to the community. On October 24th, Winter Park Police received a call for assistance. The caller was a youth sports director at a local child's soccer game. The caller alleged that the parents of a young player were being disruptive and that as the league director, he wanted the parents to leave the park. Upon arrival, officers encountered the parents who were already in the process of leaving the park on their own accord. This call did not prompt officers to trespass any individuals and was considered a civil matter between the league and the parents. Despite some social media rumors, there was never any suggestion that the call to police was prompted over the child's on-field talent. Officers did help facilitate communication between the league and the parents over refunding registration costs to the family. The department posted a link to the officer's body-worn cameras along with the call to police. The materials can be accessed here. I was curious about the never any suggestion that the call to police was prompted over the child's on-field talent.
00:25:23
Speaker 1: Why would they have to put that in there?
00:25:25
Speaker 2: I don't know.
00:25:25
Speaker 1: Why would they say that?
00:25:28
Speaker 2: Because they're trying to defend, in that moment, I believe, the league organizer who is saying this has nothing to do with how good the kid is. It's that he's pushing kids and won't share the ball.
00:25:40
Speaker 1: Or it's that the parents are being disruptive. I think it's moving around too much. What is it?
00:25:45
Speaker 2: Good point.
00:25:46
Speaker 1: Okay. What rose to the level of the youth football league, soccer league, where you're dealing with parents all the time, I assume, who are pissed about their kids playing time?
00:25:54
Speaker 2: Correct.
00:25:55
Speaker 1: I assume. What rose to the level here?
00:25:57
Speaker 2: Because all of the kids' parents were upset that their kids weren't getting the ball instead of just one or two.
00:26:04
Speaker 1: That's what it is. They put pressure on this organizer.
00:26:06
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:26:06
Speaker 1: Now, to be clear, the organizer, the one who was there on site, is black. Appears to be black, I should say. But by all accounts, what I'm looking at is a black man talking to police, the league organizer. You look at all the parents, they are overwhelmingly majority white on the field. A lot of folks, Robes, and again, I just say based on experience, see these things and there's an idea of over-policing black men. Black boys in particular, where it's got to cut their hair off at some school because the hair is too long. You can't be here with this. There is a Trayvon Martin situation. You can't just walk through the neighborhood peacefully. There's an over-policing they talk about of black boys, and we're often told, Robes, that either one, you're not good enough, or two, you're too good. Either way, get the fuck out of here. To see that three-year-old boy, just, some of us have different experiences. And you certainly don't want to go through it yourself. He's three. He's three, baby. And he's walking over to a cop who got called because he works his ass off at soccer.
00:27:32
Speaker 2: Oh, man.
00:27:34
Speaker 1: That stuff. I'm 49. Man, I can recall time after time this crap happening. or you're not good enough, or you're too good. Either way, there's some explanation why you should not excel over us. And we're going to do what we can to show, to prove that you don't belong here. Talent ain't good enough. Smarts ain't good enough. Nothing is good enough if you're better than us. Get out of here. I was just So folks, I know folks hate to hear, and it's all about race. It's always got to be about race. We are having different life experiences. We just are. And I don't know how many three-year-old white kids might have gotten that call, have had this experience, but just the grace. I'm just begging you all who look at this and you can't understand this life experience. Just give him the grace that maybe we are all having different experiences. In the United States.
00:28:37
Speaker 2: And look, and the actual real emotion and pain that is coming out now is based on 49 years of history and experience of something that if you don't have brown skin, you cannot know. You cannot understand.
00:28:52
Speaker 1: Please just give us a break, a grace that maybe we're having a different experience. Maybe. And it's okay that we're having different. But ours isn't respected. It's dismissed. Or, oh, it's just all about race with you guys. I mean... How many folks listening, what was your experience with police been? What has it been? You called them, right? There was a cop that came here to our, somebody called the police, think something in our apartment. And the first thing I tell you to do is, hey baby, can you pick up your glass of wine? So that they see that when they open the door and when they see me, they see a relaxed environment. You think I just pulled that out of my ass?
00:29:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a wild thing to me. I was like, wait, why would I grab a glass of wine if police are at our door?
00:29:36
Speaker 1: Because I need them to be relaxed when they see me. see me. Babe, my mom has been teaching me this stuff since I was a kid. He's three. He's three, babe. That's all. And if you all want to get an idea of what we're talking about and why this is upsetting, go look at that police body care video. When Lil Nevada walks over to the police like.
00:29:58
Speaker 2: He's so scared. He's so confused. He doesn't know what he did wrong. And no, and you can actually see in his face where he's thinking, what did I do? What did I do wrong? He was scared and confused. And it's really sad that, as you pointed out, all the adults... let him down. And it's interesting because in a story like this, when police are called, and yes, it's a black family, it's a three-year-old black phenom, you think, oh great, the police come, things are going to go from bad to worse. That actually didn't happen this time.
00:30:32
Speaker 1: I'll give those cops credit. They were friendly from the moment they showed up. And you know what? What do we say oftentimes? We see oftentimes robes and police body cam videos and incidents and things. Police are taking the task for escalating instead of de-escalating.
00:30:47
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:30:48
Speaker 1: They got there and everybody was hot. These guys were friendly. They had smiles on their faces. They were pleasant. They were good mediators the whole time. And they validated everybody's feelings. This was good policing. I don't know who these guys are.
00:31:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had smiles on their faces.
00:31:05
Speaker 1: In this moment, they understood better than anybody what this was and what it took to de-escalate and what this should have been, baby.
00:31:13
Speaker 2: Who was.
00:31:15
Speaker 1: I'm trying to give somebody credit for being in the right on this thing, and all I got is the cops.
00:31:22
Speaker 2: And that's, I mean, that's kind of awesome, I guess.
00:31:25
Speaker 1: All I got is police. They should send this out. This is how you handle it. And Robes, there are probably plenty of police officers who do a good job of this every day, but they don't get credit for it.
00:31:34
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:31:34
Speaker 1: This is on video.
00:31:35
Speaker 2: This is why body cams are good. Yeah. Because not only do we get to see what really happened oftentimes, and we do get to hold people accountable, there's real transparency. But we also get to applaud good police work. It's not just about catching police doing bad things. I think, you know, we think about it from that lens, like, oh, they wear their body cam, we can see what they really did or what they really said. No, sometimes you actually get to see how great cops are in moments where it could go either way and they make the right call. And these cops, I did love a couple of the lines you wrote them down that they said in the body cam footage.
00:32:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was when somebody out there, I think it was one of the youth league, Organized, because it said staff on his shirt. He said, how's it going, officer? Tough day? And this was his response.
00:32:20
Speaker 2: If this is the worst call I get all day, then it's been a great day. Perspective.
00:32:25
Speaker 1: You could almost hear the joy, even the smile on his face when he said it.
00:32:28
Speaker 2: Yep.
00:32:28
Speaker 1: That was great.
00:32:29
Speaker 2: And then I love the other one.
00:32:30
Speaker 1: This is at the end.
00:32:31
Speaker 2: I kind of want to see him play. I bet he's good.
00:32:34
Speaker 1: At that point, they've been out there 20 minutes hearing about this kid. They want to see him play.
00:32:38
Speaker 2: Right? And look, he's already getting opportunities. Look, this has been making the rounds. It's gone viral. We know that there has been some offers, I believe his mom said. that it caught the attention of Eddie Johnson. I'm not a big footballer, soccer player.
00:32:55
Speaker 1: I think he spent some time with the U.S. Men's National Team.
00:32:56
Speaker 2: Former professional soccer player, but Nevada is now going to be joining his Orlando-based youth soccer training program in January because now he's going to take him because he sees how good he is. And look, even Miss Rachel, I was saying, did you see that? She was like, put it out to all of her followers saying, police were called on a three-year-old black boy because he's too good at soccer. He was kicked out of the league. The cop showed up at the game, his face. His face in that video. I don't know much about sports, but the World Cup and all the famous soccer players need to show up for this amazing three-year-old and shower him with love and awesome experiences. I hope that happens. I hope that happens. And that he gets even more opportunities because he's working his butt off. Please, please, please go on his Instagram and see this little kid. Work his butt off. Yes, he's phenomenal, but you see all the training. His mom has all that up there. Him doing his thing, schooling his sister. I think it was his sister in one of the... But he... Do you see some of the goals he scores? They put the little goal in all these different places. I mean, he's awesome.
00:34:03
Speaker 1: He's a star. And we should have known him before this. But we know him now because of this. I just hope he's okay.
00:34:09
Speaker 2: And I will.
00:34:11
Speaker 1: I am sorry, baby. I apologize to you and everybody else.
00:34:13
Speaker 2: No, but that's an authentic response that I think people sometimes don't understand because we're all protecting ourselves from what's really deep inside, and that is inside you based on decades of lived experience that other people can't know.
00:34:26
Speaker 1: Just give everybody a chance. Just believe, folks, and give them grace that they're having a different experience in America than you might be having. That's all. That is really, really all. But yeah, I can't wait to see what with this kid. He is the... At this point, I'd tell him to switch to basketball. You know what, though?
00:34:45
Speaker 2: No, you know what? Playing soccer while black, I get it. This might be one of those examples. But let's just say he could change the game. Nevada Pierre, remember his name. And thank you, everyone.
00:34:57
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I got you all. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry, we should have stopped and started over.
00:35:02
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. This is real. This is what it's all about. I'm Amy. That's TJ. Thank you, everyone. We'll see you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. And I quote, they called police on a three-year-old because he's too good. And with that, welcome, everybody. That's Rogues on TJ. This should not be a story at all. Cooler heads, better heads, baby. Kinder heads should have prevailed in the story that it seems like everybody is talking about right now.
00:00:25
Speaker 2: That's right. There was no reason whatsoever for police to be called. And especially when you hear the 911 call. Yes, we're hearing from the parents that they believe the police were called because parents wanted their kid off the soccer field because he is such a phenom. And by the way, he's three. The other kids were five. The person calling 911 claims that he had an unruly mother. However, here's the asterisk and here's the problem with being on that side of things, he asked them to hurry because the parents were leaving.
00:01:02
Speaker 1: Okay. And again, this is really, really caught fire. It happened over the weekend, as of this recording, happened over the weekend in Florida, Winter Park, Florida, just north of Orlando, I believe it is. And the video is all over the place. And this kid is phenomenal. I don't think we're going too far. He might be right there on the edge. This might be a phenom. This might be a kid who is a special talent that we see years down the road. Three years old.
00:01:28
Speaker 2: Like a Tiger Woods kind of phenom.
00:01:31
Speaker 1: Three. He's three, and he is running circles around kids who are older than he is. That is who we're talking about. That is what we're talking about. Robes, how do we get to a point that police get called because he is, okay, They claim the call was made because the police were being, excuse me, the parents were being disrupted.
00:01:57
Speaker 2: Unruly was the word used, I think.
00:01:59
Speaker 1: We haven't seen, have you seen any indication, have you seen any video that confirms that?
00:02:05
Speaker 2: No. No.
00:02:06
Speaker 1: All right. No.
00:02:07
Speaker 2: Only the organizer who called 911 saying that mom was being unruly and claiming, I believe, that In a past game, she called him ignorant for taking her kid out.
00:02:18
Speaker 1: Okay, so.
00:02:18
Speaker 2: So there might have been some personal beef there.
00:02:21
Speaker 1: Let's even go with that. Hey, ignorant. Hey, dumbass. And I call 911. We can make that argument still, but let's not go there. But people, I think you all know the story as of now. Three-year-old boy, his name is Nevada. He's from Florida, but he is. He has how many followers online?
00:02:39
Speaker 2: Oh, he has over half a million followers on Instagram, and I would encourage anyone to look up Nevada Pierre is his name.
00:02:47
Speaker 1: But Rose, he had these followers before all this because he is impressive.
00:02:53
Speaker 2: He's wildly talented.
00:02:55
Speaker 1: Three years old, handling that ball well. Dribbling that soccer ball like, quite frankly, you just don't see. So let's just call it what it is. He's crushing these kids. Crushing them. So at some point, police get called. Rose, you listened to this 911 call. I did. I listened to this 911 call. We have some of the verbatim here. What did you hear from this guy?
00:03:16
Speaker 2: I heard a guy who was annoyed and wanted these parents publicly shamed for their reaction because there's no reason. There was no reason to call police. They were leaving. And he even said, please hurry. Can this be urgent? Not because it's an emergency. And he even acknowledges it's not an emergency. But he just wants to make sure police intercept this. these parents before they leave because he felt like they were disruptive and he was angry. He was pissed at these parents and this was his revenge, period. Obviously if they were leaving, there was no need to call police, there was no crime being committed.
00:03:55
Speaker 1: And there was no suggestion of violence or threat to anybody, right?
00:03:58
Speaker 2: No, none whatsoever. And look, we can get into it, but part of what was going on is this organizer had a bunch of other parents, it appears, who were upset that their kids didn't get to play or were being outplayed or didn't get a chance to score a goal or didn't get to feel like they were doing something positive because this other kid was stealing the show and hogging the ball or whatever, just scoring too many goals. So it's one of those things where I don't know People get, obviously, very protective of their own kids and their right to play. But the reality is, I was looking at it from the perspective of, if I'm a parent, but maybe I'm not like the rest, I'd be just so excited to watch this kid do what he's doing.
00:04:49
Speaker 1: These youth leagues can be crazy places.
00:04:51
Speaker 2: They can be.
00:04:52
Speaker 1: We've all been there.
00:04:53
Speaker 2: You're right.
00:04:53
Speaker 1: And the coaches, I do not envy the position they have when every parent thinks their kid is the next.
00:05:00
Speaker 2: Or has some right to have a certain amount of playing.
00:05:02
Speaker 1: Time on the field. Yes, yes. We get that. And that seems to be something that played into the dynamics in this particular story. We have the excerpts from the 911 call here, and you're right. Guy calls 911. Again, this is the organizer of a youth league down in Florida. Calls 911 and says this, quote, It's really not an emergency. I have an unruly parent here calling me names and having me on Instagram. For me to look bad. Uh-huh.
00:05:33
Speaker 2: That means his pride was flaring. His ego was flaring.
00:05:38
Speaker 1: Well, he said that to a 911 operator. I know this is an emergency. She's making me look bad on Instagram. I just called 911. Bro, that's how he started the call. By the way, that's one of the first things he said. That is.
00:05:58
Speaker 2: That is, and that is his, those are his words. That isn't anyone interpreting them. Those were his words. He goes on to say, there's a parent here that's really disruptive, like following me around and calling me names in front of a whole bunch of people that's here. So I want her gone. Can you send someone quickly? But then he's saying he wants them to come quickly because they're leaving.
00:06:24
Speaker 1: Leaving.
00:06:25
Speaker 2: But the reason why he claims he wants police there is so that they can be gone. But if they were leaving anyway, let's actually start to ask ourselves why he wanted the police there.
00:06:38
Speaker 1: Now, police, by the time I got there, the game was over. The kids were walking off. The game was not still going on. I didn't focus on that enough. Robes, why if they were leaving there? that the police need to get there quickly.
00:06:50
Speaker 2: Because he wanted to say, look at me, I called police on you, now you have to answer their questions. It was his power play back at them because she was calling him According to him, we don't know. No one has video or audio of her calling him ignorant.
00:07:05
Speaker 1: And maybe that'll come out.
00:07:06
Speaker 2: And maybe she did. And maybe that is what she did. Maybe she called him stupid. Maybe she called him ignorant. Maybe she called him a lot of names because he was stupidly, in her opinion, not having the best player on the team on the field because he was yielding to other parents pressure of let my kid play. So that might all well be true. It doesn't mean you call police on someone.
00:07:27
Speaker 1: This is really odd. Now, of course, Robes is a youth soccer game, soccer match. You could assume a bunch of parents had cameras out. If there is video of what he is saying, she did, then that should come out. But Robes, even he is not describing a scene where he feels threatened. He's not describing a dangerous scene. He is not describing a crime. He is describing an annoyance. he's describing as you're a youth soccer organizer. Dealing with parents are part of your job. Dealing with pissed off parents, it's a part of your job. Managing kids, you don't want to pass the ball, it's a part of your job. Managing all this, it might be job number one before you even teach soccer skills. You're teaching life skills. And every parent That calls you a name? Or, Robes, you deal with this differently. I do not know. I'm waiting to see that video. Something very serious had to have been done. The level to call 911. Robes, we can't make it through a city block in New York without having a reason to call 911 if this is the standard. He won't make it in this city.
00:08:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would not. And, frankly, I think it's fair. Again, we could see other video that says otherwise. It's not out right now.
00:08:46
Speaker 1: Not yet.
00:08:47
Speaker 2: To call 911 over something like this, to me, is actually a crime. That is a misuse of police resources. There was absolutely zero need for police to be called. And yet the message this sends, and have we said that this little phenomenal, unbelievable soccer player, Nevada Pierre, is black? I don't know the race of anyone else, the 911 caller.
00:09:11
Speaker 1: We're going to get into this.
00:09:13
Speaker 2: Don't know any of that.
00:09:14
Speaker 1: It's a very important part of this story, how central it is to the story, we don't know. But it is impacting people differently, Robes, based on their own life experiences, me included. Now, he called 911, Robes. He says his parent is being disruptive. All the body cam video is out. Two cops show up. I want to talk about them in a little bit.
00:09:34
Speaker 2: Robes.
00:09:36
Speaker 1: They gave, this is how police should act. I don't know anything about these two. I don't know their disciplinary record. They might not have one. What I'm saying is, Rose.
00:09:45
Speaker 2: I appreciated how they handled it.
00:09:46
Speaker 1: There is something on the side of a police car that says to protect and serve. This was service. I don't think they focus enough sometimes, cops, on the serve part. They served their community, I think, in a very exact way.
00:10:00
Speaker 2: Way.
00:10:01
Speaker 1: I really, they're a highlight of this story for me.
00:10:04
Speaker 2: They really are.
00:10:05
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about them some more, but they were a highlight. So they show up, the robes, but when they get there, the organizer, and you see this all play out, he's starting to, his story shifts a little bit to where it's not just about the disruptive parents. He starts on The kid. Kids pushing. He claims in the video now.
00:10:24
Speaker 2: That Nevada was pushing other kids.
00:10:28
Speaker 1: And that's what the problem was. That the kid's not being a good sportsman. And he was pushing everybody else. And that's why we had to get involved. And then the parents got disrupted. That was his claim. The parents, you see them on video as well, said we were not disruptive at all. Said the kid wasn't pushing. The mom posted a long video, she says, of the entire game. I don't see a little trio. He's the smallest one on the field.
00:10:53
Speaker 2: He is literally, like you said, crushing. It's a pleasure to watch.
00:10:59
Speaker 1: It's a joy. It's a joy.
00:11:00
Speaker 2: I can say this, and maybe I know I'm not like other parents, but I don't expect my kids to be the best. When I see someone who is amazing, I'm like, oh my God, that kid. And when you watch what his mom posted from this game, this little pipsqueak of a kid is just, just running circles around everyone else with the ball and scoring and scoring and scoring and scoring. And yeah, maybe that is really annoying to other parents who feel like their kids are getting deflated and discouraged because you have the, but so what? I think you and I, and not every parent agrees, but I have never been a fan of everybody gets a medal and everybody's a winner because that ain't how life is. And it's not that I don't think, but kids need to be learning these lessons, that there are going to be people who are better than you, smarter than you, quicker than you. have advantages over you. And that's part of learning how to adapt and grow through life, to pave the way for the kids and throw rose petals and say, that's so unfair to kids because they have this expectation that life is supposed to be something different than what it is, which isn't necessarily equal.
00:12:10
Speaker 1: But equality for them to level the playing field is to kick him out. That's so unfair. To level the playing field. There's a kid that's two, three years younger than you that's whooping your ass. Get him out of here. And that is how we're going to make sure everything's cool for you, my child. I am not okay with that. That's a tough one, man. And watching this video, Robes, there was a point in the body cam video where you see this.
00:12:38
Speaker 2: I know. I started to cry, too. This sweet, you're going to get emotional and I know what you're about to say, this sweet little three-year-old who, by the way, trains three hours a day with his dad to be what he is. Yes, he was probably born skilled, but that's a skill he has crafted. And you have to give him and his father credit for the fact that they sit there for three hours a day and work on his skills. And when he gets out on that field and he shows everybody up, he's told he can't play because he's too good or... That's what it certainly seems like. And the little boy, when he sees police approaching his parents, has this look of fear and shame and just all of that, just on this little, sweet, innocent, talented-as-hell little boy's face. It is heartbreaking.
00:13:27
Speaker 1: It is heartbreaking. So that's the moment that changes this story for a lot of people, including black men in particular, who recognize that particular moment And it's an experience that many of us have had in our lives, Rose, but we shouldn't have it at three. His first experience with police officers is that they got called on him at three.
00:13:48
Speaker 2: And his parents say he is traumatized. And you would understand why. He sees everyone talking about him. Parents, coaches. his own parents, police coming. He's proud of himself, right? You're three, you're killing it, you're doing incredible work, and all of a sudden you see my parents are in trouble. People are angry at me. And all of a sudden now he doesn't even want to go back to that soccer field, a game he loves. And he's, I understand, he doesn't know, he doesn't get how cruel people are, how thin-skinned people are, how egos work. It's so unfair.
00:14:25
Speaker 1: Everybody failed that kid.
00:14:26
Speaker 2: Everybody did.
00:14:27
Speaker 1: They even throw his parents in there. This should have been calmed down to where I am watching a police body cam video of a little boy walking over to a police officer asking, what's going on? Because that kid is the reason the police got called. He's three.
00:14:47
Speaker 2: Nevada wasn't passing the ball enough, so 911 was called.
00:14:50
Speaker 1: But that's the other part too, baby. You know what I... You know how many times in my life and growing up in youth sports, I got benched for not doing what the coach said, which is pass more. I used to get benched for not shooting enough. You're teaching the kid. We're supposed to be teaching him to pass and how to be better at youth. And instead, we call the cops on him. So the police body cam video gets there and the organizer wrote, we have the quote here. He's saying to the police and he admits how good the kid is. But then he goes into someâ it doesn't make sense, baby.
00:15:22
Speaker 2: Yes, this is what the organizer tells police. This is the oneâ this is on body cam. The kid is good, is great. He's very advanced compared to the other ones. He scores a lot of goals.
00:15:33
Speaker 1: Yes, he does.
00:15:34
Speaker 2: But he pushes the other kids. I took the kid out, and they tell me I'm ignorant. But he pushes the kids.
00:15:41
Speaker 1: Okay, so, I mean, maybe that's the case. just saying there's no indication of that.
00:15:46
Speaker 2: Right. There's no indication, but as you pointed out, as the coach, you've got this phenom of a player. Yes, he might be aggressive. Part of what makes him good, he knows how to get around folks. And look, if you watch professional sports, hello. But yes, that's the coach's job to teach him to pass more, to not be as physically aggressive, perhaps, in trying to get to a goal.
00:16:07
Speaker 1: And let's keep in mind, if anybody's hearing this and thinking, oh my goodness, soccer, this ain't World Cup where they're knocking the hell out of each other. They don't even practice. They say just throw the kids out there and they run up and down and chase the ball around. And there happened to be one kid who knows they can't catch him in a full sprint when they're doing nothing. He's sprinting with the ball. They still can't catch him. The goals he's showing, there's nobody, he's scoring, there's nobody between him and the goal. He's just up in front of the goal. He gets there by himself. The kid is awesome just for the shits and giggles. Oh, my goodness.
00:16:40
Speaker 2: Even watching his practice videos with his dad. He's catching balls on the back of his foot.
00:16:45
Speaker 1: He's crazy.
00:16:46
Speaker 2: He's amazing. He is going to be the next Messi. He is going to be the next David Beckham. I mean, he really has that. It's hard to imagine unless something traumatic like this. I would hate to think. But there are some silver linings to the story because this has certainly happened. caught the attention of a lot of folks as it should have. But the mom said to police, after we hear that on the body cam from the coach saying, he's pushing kids, you know, he won't pass the ball. The mom says, they're mad at my kid because he plays soccer. They're literally kicking him out of this place because he's good at soccer.
00:17:22
Speaker 1: That's their take on it. And that's how they see it. And okay, but this is what she goes on to explain Robes and why this got nasty. She claims that almost immediately after the game started, all the other parents and the coaches and organizers got into a huddle. They huddled up together almost immediately after the game started and tried to put together a plan for what we could do about this kid. She claims that they are plotting, essentially, against her kid and pressuring the organizers that we're going to leave if you don't get that kid out of here. Wow. That's her claim. Wow.
00:18:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she said this actually later in an interview. She said as soon as he started the game, they stopped the game. Other parents, the director, and some of the coaches got in a circle, and I knew they were talking about Nevada, trying to figure out how to let us know that he can't play so the other kids could play. That's tough. When you devote that much time to helping your son... become the best of the best, and he comes out there on the field and he shows it. And then you have to tell him, you don't get to play because the other kids aren't as good as you. How do you explain that.
00:18:42
Speaker 1: To a kid?
00:18:43
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I guess, and this is where the coaching comes in. Use that kid. Have that kid be an asset on your team. I understand this is very young. These are very young kids playing, but yes, teach him to pass. Teach him about the assist. Have him be an integral team member who understands what teammates are all about. And that this isn't an individual sport, but this is a team sport. These are all opportunities for him to learn and grow. He's three. He's three.
00:19:11
Speaker 1: That's why they have him in the league, Ro. So he's not just out there with his dad. He has to learn a team sport. The coaches are supposed to be teaching him this. 9-1-1 got called. The game changed. So the parents claim here, Robes, forgive me here, the parents claim that there's no way they could have been harassing or doing anything because they don't even interact with the other parents. They said they don't even hang out with them, stand with them, they're apart. So that was another part of the story. rose we got at least we got statement from the city a statement from police a statement from the youth league everybody is having to chime in on this thing over a three how how do we get here we every single day there's a story that comes up somewhere in our feed that we say out loud man we got to treat each other better man just give each other a little grace in this moment Why wasn't the priority this three-year-old kid?
00:20:14
Speaker 2: Why couldn't other parents? I'm saying this. I'm not trying to be some naive Pollyanna here, but why couldn't there be some recognition from other parents? I understand you want your kids to play. Everybody wants to see their kid on the field. Everyone wants their kid to get a chance. I do, as a parent, understand that. But how about embrace this family and say, your kid is amazing. How did he learn those skills? Embrace them. Bring them into the fold. Have them be a part of your team. Have it be a community instead of your kid's better than us. Let's immediately go to fear and anger and all of those things that seem to have played a part in what unraveled on that soccer field.
00:20:53
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm trying to, again, give those other parents some grace as well. They paid their money to get into this league, and now their kid can't even get close enough to touch the ball. Maybe you would be upset. But the thing is, babe, that dims the brakes.
00:21:07
Speaker 2: That's life.
00:21:08
Speaker 1: Dims the brakes, man.
00:21:09
Speaker 2: Your kid's going to have to figure out how to navigate life when people are better, smarter, more talented, better looking, richer, all of those things. And look, this is, it's such an awful thing that happened, but I hope, I hope that better things come out of it. And that poor little sweet boy who has such a bright future, that that look on his face, that first and not the last look of disappointment and confusion is hopefully going to evolve into more opportunities, more people recognizing what this kid actually can do. And this should be a positive story. I think that's the frustrating thing. This should be a positive story.
00:21:55
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, because he is awesome. You know, more people are going to know about him and see him and he's going to get more opportunity now.
00:22:00
Speaker 2: That's the silver lining. It came at a heavy cost.
00:22:02
Speaker 1: Yeah. A cop had to be called on a kid when he was three. I don't care what scholarship he gets.
00:22:09
Speaker 2: Yeah. That.
00:22:12
Speaker 1: It's tough.
00:22:13
Speaker 2: The police statement. Let's read this because this is what the Winter Park Police Department put out. They said, we were contacted by a soccer league official who requested response to a disturbance between league officials and the parents of a player. The league requested the family leave and was offered to refund the league cost to the family. While they weren't just kicking them out of the game, they were kicking them out of the league. Shortly after arrival, the officers were requested by the league official to communicate with the family as he did not want to further a disturbance. The family stated the game was over and they were leaving. The family was cooperative with the officers and were provided an event number for the incident at their request. The incident was a civil matter between these parties and not criminal. No one was arrested, trespassed, or forced to leave the park. The officer's body-worn cameras confirm the above information.
00:23:10
Speaker 1: Can you do the Youth League statement next?
00:23:12
Speaker 2: Yes, the Youth League statement is as follows. We are aware of concerns being shared regarding an incident at a local I-9 sports program, and we take them very seriously. The respectful treatment and well-being of every child and family matter deeply to us. We have reached out to the family and have begun a review that includes speaking with those involved. While we work to understand the circumstances, we will not speculate or share unverified information. We appreciate everyone who has brought their concerns to our attention. All right.
00:23:46
Speaker 1: So then the city put out a statement here, Robes, where it felt a little CYA. It felt like they had some more explaining to do with something they were trying to get across. But you read this other one. I'm curious what you make of this one, too. But they put out a longer statement after this thing really got going online.
00:24:05
Speaker 2: Yes. They said the Winter Park Police Department has received numerous inquiries into a call that was received over the weekend and would like to provide the following information to the community. On October 24th, Winter Park Police received a call for assistance. The caller was a youth sports director at a local child's soccer game. The caller alleged that the parents of a young player were being disruptive and that as the league director, he wanted the parents to leave the park. Upon arrival, officers encountered the parents who were already in the process of leaving the park on their own accord. This call did not prompt officers to trespass any individuals and was considered a civil matter between the league and the parents. Despite some social media rumors, there was never any suggestion that the call to police was prompted over the child's on-field talent. Officers did help facilitate communication between the league and the parents over refunding registration costs to the family. The department posted a link to the officer's body-worn cameras along with the call to police. The materials can be accessed here. I was curious about the never any suggestion that the call to police was prompted over the child's on-field talent.
00:25:23
Speaker 1: Why would they have to put that in there?
00:25:25
Speaker 2: I don't know.
00:25:25
Speaker 1: Why would they say that?
00:25:28
Speaker 2: Because they're trying to defend, in that moment, I believe, the league organizer who is saying this has nothing to do with how good the kid is. It's that he's pushing kids and won't share the ball.
00:25:40
Speaker 1: Or it's that the parents are being disruptive. I think it's moving around too much. What is it?
00:25:45
Speaker 2: Good point.
00:25:46
Speaker 1: Okay. What rose to the level of the youth football league, soccer league, where you're dealing with parents all the time, I assume, who are pissed about their kids playing time?
00:25:54
Speaker 2: Correct.
00:25:55
Speaker 1: I assume. What rose to the level here?
00:25:57
Speaker 2: Because all of the kids' parents were upset that their kids weren't getting the ball instead of just one or two.
00:26:04
Speaker 1: That's what it is. They put pressure on this organizer.
00:26:06
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:26:06
Speaker 1: Now, to be clear, the organizer, the one who was there on site, is black. Appears to be black, I should say. But by all accounts, what I'm looking at is a black man talking to police, the league organizer. You look at all the parents, they are overwhelmingly majority white on the field. A lot of folks, Robes, and again, I just say based on experience, see these things and there's an idea of over-policing black men. Black boys in particular, where it's got to cut their hair off at some school because the hair is too long. You can't be here with this. There is a Trayvon Martin situation. You can't just walk through the neighborhood peacefully. There's an over-policing they talk about of black boys, and we're often told, Robes, that either one, you're not good enough, or two, you're too good. Either way, get the fuck out of here. To see that three-year-old boy, just, some of us have different experiences. And you certainly don't want to go through it yourself. He's three. He's three, baby. And he's walking over to a cop who got called because he works his ass off at soccer.
00:27:32
Speaker 2: Oh, man.
00:27:34
Speaker 1: That stuff. I'm 49. Man, I can recall time after time this crap happening. or you're not good enough, or you're too good. Either way, there's some explanation why you should not excel over us. And we're going to do what we can to show, to prove that you don't belong here. Talent ain't good enough. Smarts ain't good enough. Nothing is good enough if you're better than us. Get out of here. I was just So folks, I know folks hate to hear, and it's all about race. It's always got to be about race. We are having different life experiences. We just are. And I don't know how many three-year-old white kids might have gotten that call, have had this experience, but just the grace. I'm just begging you all who look at this and you can't understand this life experience. Just give him the grace that maybe we are all having different experiences. In the United States.
00:28:37
Speaker 2: And look, and the actual real emotion and pain that is coming out now is based on 49 years of history and experience of something that if you don't have brown skin, you cannot know. You cannot understand.
00:28:52
Speaker 1: Please just give us a break, a grace that maybe we're having a different experience. Maybe. And it's okay that we're having different. But ours isn't respected. It's dismissed. Or, oh, it's just all about race with you guys. I mean... How many folks listening, what was your experience with police been? What has it been? You called them, right? There was a cop that came here to our, somebody called the police, think something in our apartment. And the first thing I tell you to do is, hey baby, can you pick up your glass of wine? So that they see that when they open the door and when they see me, they see a relaxed environment. You think I just pulled that out of my ass?
00:29:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a wild thing to me. I was like, wait, why would I grab a glass of wine if police are at our door?
00:29:36
Speaker 1: Because I need them to be relaxed when they see me. see me. Babe, my mom has been teaching me this stuff since I was a kid. He's three. He's three, babe. That's all. And if you all want to get an idea of what we're talking about and why this is upsetting, go look at that police body care video. When Lil Nevada walks over to the police like.
00:29:58
Speaker 2: He's so scared. He's so confused. He doesn't know what he did wrong. And no, and you can actually see in his face where he's thinking, what did I do? What did I do wrong? He was scared and confused. And it's really sad that, as you pointed out, all the adults... let him down. And it's interesting because in a story like this, when police are called, and yes, it's a black family, it's a three-year-old black phenom, you think, oh great, the police come, things are going to go from bad to worse. That actually didn't happen this time.
00:30:32
Speaker 1: I'll give those cops credit. They were friendly from the moment they showed up. And you know what? What do we say oftentimes? We see oftentimes robes and police body cam videos and incidents and things. Police are taking the task for escalating instead of de-escalating.
00:30:47
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:30:48
Speaker 1: They got there and everybody was hot. These guys were friendly. They had smiles on their faces. They were pleasant. They were good mediators the whole time. And they validated everybody's feelings. This was good policing. I don't know who these guys are.
00:31:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had smiles on their faces.
00:31:05
Speaker 1: In this moment, they understood better than anybody what this was and what it took to de-escalate and what this should have been, baby.
00:31:13
Speaker 2: Who was.
00:31:15
Speaker 1: I'm trying to give somebody credit for being in the right on this thing, and all I got is the cops.
00:31:22
Speaker 2: And that's, I mean, that's kind of awesome, I guess.
00:31:25
Speaker 1: All I got is police. They should send this out. This is how you handle it. And Robes, there are probably plenty of police officers who do a good job of this every day, but they don't get credit for it.
00:31:34
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:31:34
Speaker 1: This is on video.
00:31:35
Speaker 2: This is why body cams are good. Yeah. Because not only do we get to see what really happened oftentimes, and we do get to hold people accountable, there's real transparency. But we also get to applaud good police work. It's not just about catching police doing bad things. I think, you know, we think about it from that lens, like, oh, they wear their body cam, we can see what they really did or what they really said. No, sometimes you actually get to see how great cops are in moments where it could go either way and they make the right call. And these cops, I did love a couple of the lines you wrote them down that they said in the body cam footage.
00:32:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was when somebody out there, I think it was one of the youth league, Organized, because it said staff on his shirt. He said, how's it going, officer? Tough day? And this was his response.
00:32:20
Speaker 2: If this is the worst call I get all day, then it's been a great day. Perspective.
00:32:25
Speaker 1: You could almost hear the joy, even the smile on his face when he said it.
00:32:28
Speaker 2: Yep.
00:32:28
Speaker 1: That was great.
00:32:29
Speaker 2: And then I love the other one.
00:32:30
Speaker 1: This is at the end.
00:32:31
Speaker 2: I kind of want to see him play. I bet he's good.
00:32:34
Speaker 1: At that point, they've been out there 20 minutes hearing about this kid. They want to see him play.
00:32:38
Speaker 2: Right? And look, he's already getting opportunities. Look, this has been making the rounds. It's gone viral. We know that there has been some offers, I believe his mom said. that it caught the attention of Eddie Johnson. I'm not a big footballer, soccer player.
00:32:55
Speaker 1: I think he spent some time with the U.S. Men's National Team.
00:32:56
Speaker 2: Former professional soccer player, but Nevada is now going to be joining his Orlando-based youth soccer training program in January because now he's going to take him because he sees how good he is. And look, even Miss Rachel, I was saying, did you see that? She was like, put it out to all of her followers saying, police were called on a three-year-old black boy because he's too good at soccer. He was kicked out of the league. The cop showed up at the game, his face. His face in that video. I don't know much about sports, but the World Cup and all the famous soccer players need to show up for this amazing three-year-old and shower him with love and awesome experiences. I hope that happens. I hope that happens. And that he gets even more opportunities because he's working his butt off. Please, please, please go on his Instagram and see this little kid. Work his butt off. Yes, he's phenomenal, but you see all the training. His mom has all that up there. Him doing his thing, schooling his sister. I think it was his sister in one of the... But he... Do you see some of the goals he scores? They put the little goal in all these different places. I mean, he's awesome.
00:34:03
Speaker 1: He's a star. And we should have known him before this. But we know him now because of this. I just hope he's okay.
00:34:09
Speaker 2: And I will.
00:34:11
Speaker 1: I am sorry, baby. I apologize to you and everybody else.
00:34:13
Speaker 2: No, but that's an authentic response that I think people sometimes don't understand because we're all protecting ourselves from what's really deep inside, and that is inside you based on decades of lived experience that other people can't know.
00:34:26
Speaker 1: Just give everybody a chance. Just believe, folks, and give them grace that they're having a different experience in America than you might be having. That's all. That is really, really all. But yeah, I can't wait to see what with this kid. He is the... At this point, I'd tell him to switch to basketball. You know what, though?
00:34:45
Speaker 2: No, you know what? Playing soccer while black, I get it. This might be one of those examples. But let's just say he could change the game. Nevada Pierre, remember his name. And thank you, everyone.
00:34:57
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I got you all. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry, we should have stopped and started over.
00:35:02
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. This is real. This is what it's all about. I'm Amy. That's TJ. Thank you, everyone. We'll see you soon.