Jan. 27, 2026
Overnight: Agents Set to Leave Minneapolis and All It Took Was a Phone Call
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RSS Feed There were major developments in Minneapolis overnight that could help deescalate the situation. Just days after the killing of Alex Pretti, President Trump announced he's sending Border Czar Tom Homan to take over operations. The change in leadership on the ground also came with a change in tone from the Trump, who said he had "productive" calls with Gov. Walz and Mayor Frey. Soon after, Frey announced that the President agreed to start removing federal agents from Minneapolis.
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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Tuesday, January twenty seventh, and there is a change in tone, there is a change in strategy, and there is a change in leadership on the streets of Minneapolis. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rose the Does it feel like the tide has finally turned? There has been now, we can say, a shift, and cooler heads seem to be prevailing in Minneapolis.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, and it's about time.
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Speaker 3: It's sad that it took three public killings for this to happen, but yes, Alex Pretti's killing has absolutely and the reaction to it and the videos that don't agree with the statements, all of that has built up to a point now where finally we are seeing some it's not reconciliation, but at least an acknowledgment of the other position.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we went from get the fuck out of Minneapolis too. I just had a good phone call. That's why don't you have the good phone call at the beginning? I understand the anger is there, and but we had to get through all this with somebody else died because these folks weren't talking on the phone. So yes, folks, what we're talking about here in Minneapolis as we're getting up on this morning on Tuesday, there is absolutely a change in the mindset, in the tone in the tune from everybody. So let's start with the update here, and let's not say everything is all good. There was fairly ugly scene last night. We'll tell you this first. Folks that last night, I believe at least a dozen I don't think dozens, but at least a dozen folks were arrested. Rose another one of these scenes we've seen at a hotel. They think Bevino staying at this hotel. Group of protesters show up. They've been banging pots and whatnot, but they were told to disperse. So last night went up until ten o'clock local time, freezing temperatures. But they arrested a dozen or so folks last night to get them away. They thought he was living at that or staying at that hotel.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I actually read twenty six people were arrested last night outside the hotel because yes, dozens, and they said that there was property damage, objects being thrown at officers. It got heated outside of that hotel because they were trying to make his last night a terrible one, or at least try to keep him up all night, which is just look, if you've got the announcement that the guy is leaving, that the president is making changes, maybe go ahead.
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Speaker 2: And I shouldn't tell people what to do, but it just seems like.
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Speaker 3: It would have maybe been in the spirit of saying, let me do my part. It would have maybe been nice to see that not happen, but it happened. Ten dozens of people were arrested.
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Speaker 1: They wanted to express themselves in right now. They feel to some degree that they have an advantage that they are actually have at least winning at this point, because yes, this is a big deal. The face, the name you have been seeing on the streets there in charge of the operation that is headline won. There will be a change in leadership on the ground in Minneapolis. And well who you've been seeing Greg Bavino, and you've seen a lot more of him in the past few days. And because of what you were seeing and what he was saying, quite frankly, is being pointed to is why he's being pulled out. But Greg Bavino is being taken out of Minneapolis, being replaced by the bordersar Tom Homan, also big deal. Trump, Waltz, Fry all got on the phone together, separate phone calls, but Trump talked to Walt's Trump talked to Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry. All of them talked and came out singing a very different tune. Other headline. Agents will start leaving today. You hear that, folks, That surge of federal agents in Minneapolis, we are now told is going to start scaling back today. But robes the big headline. And look, Greg Bavino. He has been giving press conferences and he was out on the street. We saw him throwing tear gas at one point. But he has been the face this is a big deal he does.
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Speaker 3: That face is gone after today, leaving Minneapolis today along with several of those agents, which will be a cause for celebration for a lot of folks there in that city. But yeah, he was the top commander. He is the top commander of border Patrol. We should make that very clear, because Trump wanted it to be known. He is not being fired, he is not being demoted. He is just leaving Minneapolis, and there are clear reasons why. As we've just pointed out, he literally was the face of that initial DHS response that was squarely pointing the finger victim, blaming, saying Alex Pretti wanted to massacre Border patrol agents, that he was brandishing a weapon, none of which those videos show.
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Speaker 1: It didn't take analysis of the video now it was so clear that what he was saying and what Christy Nolan were saying was actually factually wrong. It made it worse. Right if you just say, hey, we're going to look at the investigation and we'll look into it is one thing. So are they came out and defended they were lying to our faces.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: And not only did they come out defending the Border patrol agents, they came out accusing the victim, blaming the victim, saying that he was just this instigator who was out to kill as many Border Patrol agents as he could with magazines and his gun. I mean they went within what not that long after the incident. They would jumped and rushed to all of these statements. And the problem is now you have a massive credibility issue, and no matter what Bovino was going to say, and frankly Christy nomans in this category right now, we're not going to believe as journalists what you tell us now because you've just proven that we cannot.
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Speaker 1: Again, that's one thing. If the press doesn't believe you, but the public doesn't believe you, they don't have to believe us. They don't have to listen to a reporter. They can hear Christy Nomes say, this guy came here to kill as many agents as he could. And you're seeing a guy with a cell phone walking trying to help a woman up from the ground who has been pushed down. It just doesn't work. So they had a public credibility problem, and that robes what you're talking about is the thing that many believe has changed this whole scenario because of Donald Trump. He reportedly is pissed at how Baveno and Gnome have handled and coming out and saying those things. It's all been botched, and he now has been put in a position to where public sentiment has turned it seems at least against him, and he knows it.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and he knows it, and he is acting accordingly. He understands. I think, look, you even look at the Greenland situation. There comes a point where he understands where he cannot overcome the public sentiment. And you saw him do it last week with Greenland quietly, confidently, and yet an obvious shift in rhetoric and direction in town. This exact thing is happening in Minneapolis right now. He knows when he cannot overcome a situation where he cannot force an outcome to be what he wants it to be, and so he is backing off to the point where CNN reported this and I see you have it here as well, that Greg Bovino's social media.
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Speaker 2: Access has been taken away.
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Speaker 3: That is what they are reporting. That might just speak to just how upset President Trump is.
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Speaker 1: What was a commander at large, I think is what that official one is from the Border Patrol. But yes, c and N is reporting that. I think everybody's picking up on their reporting. But Rhodes, he has that's one thing at the press conference, but he continues to spin that narrative, and he's been going head to head with members of Congress and doing that Twitter. Look, they're following the president's lead.
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Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, he's probably doing what he thinks he's supposed to do, because that's what we see Trump doing all the time, engaging in public sparring on social media.
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Speaker 1: So he's apparently been banned from doing that by the administration, not by X by the way, but the White House made clear that he is not being relieved of his duties because that would look bad. That would look like, Hey, we put a guy in there, he's failing, so we're removing him. You can't do that, So the guy's just moving to another spot now. Asked specifically about being demoted or reassigned, Catherine excuse me, Carolyn Levitt at the White House yesterday said he is very much going to continue to lead customs and Border patrol throughout and across the country. He's leaving, He's leaving at least Minneapolis. She was asked specifically, is he leaving Minneapolis? That was her answer, Nope, He's going to continue to lead customs and border patrol throughout and across.
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Speaker 2: The country, across the country, just not in Minneapolis.
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Speaker 1: We heard that. So he's being replaced by Holman, who apparently Roes has a pretty good reputation on both sides.
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Speaker 3: Uh. Yes, And it seems like he is the man that perhaps not just Minneapolis needs, but that the country needs at this point. He is the borders are sixty four years old, but he's been with border patrol on ice for forty plus years. So he has worked through many, many administrations, specifically during the Obama administration, which you know, for folks who are on either side of the political aisle, to have someone who has served in a bipartisan role or at least for different types of presidents does speak highly to being uniquely qualified to handle this situation because it is so much about Republicans versus Democrats, the administration versus those who are on the other side of the political aisle. So to have somebody who has been a unifier, at least in the past is a step in the right direction.
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Speaker 1: And they were quick to point out at one point President Obama acknowledged him by giving him award for his like a prestigious award for his efforts, so that gives him some credit. It's crazy. I can get along with the Republican I can get along with the Democrats, So therefore now I'm good. Should be the case. But we'll take you.
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Speaker 2: It's rare these days, but.
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Speaker 1: He is on his way. He supposed to be there to day now. We talked about robes, the other shifts, and a big part of this I help me here. Do you remember them? Saying they had been on the phone prior to this, as Trump talked to waltz Or Trump talked to Mayor Fry before. I can't remember.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if they have.
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Speaker 3: What I I remember is Walt's publicly saying that he wouldn't take his call, that Trump wouldn't take his call, that.
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Speaker 2: He was trying to reach out, he was trying to call.
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Speaker 3: Trump and he hadn't heard back, so he was throwing Trump under the bus for not returning his phone call.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so apparently they all got on the phone yesterday, and what a difference a phone call makes. They all came out yesterday Robes, Trump, Fry, and Walt and gave their own I guess account of how those calls went. Every single one of them said, at least it was productive, and they were all quite respectful of the people. They have been publicly horrib I mean, just hurling all kinds of insults publicly. But sweetheart, this was this always happens, remember Mom, Donnie. The worst thing they were saying about each other. He goes to the White House and they look, buddy, buddy, this is just one of those things. They sound like good friends.
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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, you know what. I don't need to understand it. I'm just happy that's happening. Yes, this is what Trump had to say about Mayor Fry, because what he's had to say about Mayor and Fry up until now, some of it probably wasn't even fit for broadcast. But he said, I just had a very good telephone conversation with Mayor Jacob Fry of Minneapolis.
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Speaker 2: Lots of progress is being made.
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Speaker 3: Tom Holman will be meeting with him tomorrow, that's today, in order to continue the discussion.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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Speaker 1: That's a huge score for all of us to see, like we are so relieved to see the president not spitting fire. This calms every just a simple, simple couple of lines.
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Speaker 2: My shoulders relaxed reading that.
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Speaker 1: Seriously, just okay, maybe we'll be okay. And he spoke on Walter as well. He said they called that Walt's call to request they worked together on Minnesota. Said it was a very good call. Quote, we actually seem to be on this similar wavelength.
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Speaker 2: What yay? Finally, Hugh, there's always common ground. Sometimes you just have to look a little harder for it.
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Speaker 1: How about this for a line the Governor very respectfully understood, and I will be speaking to him in the near future. He was happy with Tom Holman that he's going to be going to Minnesota, and so am I. We've had such tremendous success Da da ropes. Wait here it is this last line here in Minnesota. Crime is way down, but both Governor Walt and I want to make it better. Yeah, they sound like teammates.
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Speaker 3: Look, that was amazing, and that's what it should have been from the beginning, and look better late than ever. I truly believe that. But I did sound it did sound like. We listened to Carolyn love It's press conference yesterday and they were giving state leaders an off ramp, basically saying, hey, if you guys just hand over all of the illegal migrants they used another term, who are currently in your prisons, and hand them over to us to be deported, we'll be happy. And if anyone who has an arrest warner has a you know, a violent criminal history, if you let us arrest them, and you assist us and arrest.
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Speaker 2: Them, we'll leave.
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Speaker 3: So there was they were dangling, hey, just let us have access to convicted criminals who are not in this country legally it felt like that was the public offering that was being made.
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Speaker 1: I was worried watching her press conference. It was appointment television for US yesterday, usually happens around one o'clock. It was a little delayed, but it was the first one since Alex Pretty's death. So we were watching that with very very perked up years in that moment. But I was concerned afterwards that things were not going to be going the right direction because she laid out almost demands and she once again doubled and tripled down on a narrative. We've just been competing narratives since he's gotten killed. I mean, in Minneapolis, has just been a competing narrative, and she seemed to be continuing with that. Three conditions. Democrats need to turn over all illegal immigrants and to federal authorities. State and local law enforcement must turn over all illegal undocumented immigrants who are arrested. And they must assist in apprehending and detaining those who are wanted. She laid out three conditions, do this and it's all good. And then we heard about the phone calls. We say this, well, it was during the shutdown, right ropes. We were shocked. We were three weeks into the shutdown and the two sides weren't talking.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, it's great.
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Speaker 3: Wait what people are trying to figure out how to put a meal on the table and you're like, we're not talking. That's your job to talk, that's your job to negotiate. That is what democracy is. That is what any sort of union is. That is what a marriage is.
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Speaker 1: You talk things through, you really care, you know, you put it and everybody can relate to that. If there is a problem or a conflict, how was it going to get solved? If you're back in the bedroom and homeboys downstairs in the basement, you have to talk. They had one phone call and all of a sudden things are okay. Why didn't we do that from the beginning? I don't know who knows, but we're talking about these phone calls. We told you how Trump viewed them. We will tell you now how Governor Tim Waltz and Mayor Jacob Fry. We will hear their assessments of how those phone calls went. Stay here, all right, folks, We continue here on Amy and TJ on this Tuesday, which could be a turning point in what we've seen on the streets of Minneapolis, all because Robes, a couple of folks decided to pick up a phone call to each other.
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Speaker 2: It's amazing what conversation and communication can do.
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Speaker 1: That's what we're literally talking about. Two phone calls have changed.
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Speaker 3: What's so interesting is everything President Trump has said that he is, you know, the president of peace.
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Speaker 2: He's got his Board of Peace, He's basically solved.
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Speaker 3: He says eight and a half wars around the world in just a year's time. And you'd think he would understand this than being the president of peace that he is. But you know what, he finally figured it out in terms of his ability. He has that power he actually does as the president to be the peacemaker, to be the bridge, and he finally decided to be that person.
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Speaker 1: We always put something in front of something in chief, commander in chief, but sometimes the consoler in chiefs this right. During moments where we struggle in this country, we do look to the president to comfort us, and his words can ratchet things up or he can calm things down. He took a stance here, Yes, you're right. JD. Vance went to town. Didn't help things bring things to temperature down right, because he said things that inflamed. The President just simply said I had a good call. We're on the same page. We want to work together. He didn't admit in his in any of his comments that he was pulling agents.
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Speaker 2: Did he No, I didn't see that. I didn't see that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that came from Walt and fry. So let's tell you that fry in particular, Mayor Jacob Frye, who has gotten a lot of incoming from the President. He had two messages in particular robes on X. He was the one and this was a big headlining, big breaking news. He was the one that let us know that agents were going to be leaving.
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Speaker 2: That's right, he said.
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Speaker 3: I spoke with President Trump today and appreciated the conversation.
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Speaker 1: Wow wow.
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Speaker 3: I expressed how much Minneapolis has benefited from our immigrant communities and was clear that my main ask is that Operation Metro Surge needs to end. The President agreed the present situation can't continue.
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Speaker 2: Boom wow, and then he said some.
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Speaker 3: Federal agents will begin leaving the area tomorrow, and I will continue pushing for the rest involved in this operation to go.
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Speaker 1: Wow that tomorrow being today, folks, we are going to suit. We've been hearingge surge surge. There were two thousand there. They sent another thousand surging surging. It's going down. We are told that today agents will start leaving Minneapolis. That is a big headline. That's a big deal, and it can go a long long way ropes to changing these scenes we've seen on the streets. There's a less chance starting today if somebody getting killed probably again.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just I just it's so sad that it took Alex Pretty's death for us to get here. It is sad that they couldn't have had a conversation about what both sides were wanted and how both sides could feel like they had to win.
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Speaker 2: And it was, it was found, and it was there all along. After a third man had to die. It's tough.
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Speaker 1: And Governor Waltz spoke as well. I had a productive call with President Trump earlier today. Bro. But that's a remarkable given the words we have been seeing for the past couple of weeks.
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Speaker 3: My laughter is that normally that would be a statement in any other administration, but to have that be like this huge headline, it just speaks to the times we're in.
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Speaker 2: That's why I laughed. I was just laughing at the perspective of that statement.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're right, you were laughing as well when we were talking about the shutdown. It's only a partial shutdown, so it's going to be a success. We will take the We just have the governor of a US state and the President talking and we're celebrating.
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Speaker 2: Yes, in the United States of America.
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Speaker 1: He said he had a productive call with the President. He said, I told him we need impartial investigations of the Minneapolis shootings involving federal agents, and that we need to reduce the number of federal agents in Minnesota. The President agreed to look into reducing the number of federal agents in Minnesota and to talk to DHS about ensuring the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, essentially saying that we have access and that Minnesota can do its own investigation. This is I know it's baby steps, but we will take it. I know this seems like a baby step. That three men talked. This is ginormous. Oh it is.
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Speaker 3: This is just and probably life saving, that's the sad thing. But yes, this is going to be peace preserving, and this is what we need more of in this country. Is for adults to act like adults.
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Speaker 1: And we should let you know, folks, that we have a few adults going to be meeting. We do believe in Minneapolis today, Tom Holman, the borders are who's being sent is set, at least according to may Or Fry set to meet with Holman today. And also I believe Governor Waltz is as well. They spoke about to mean that the President wants them to get together. So the principles, at least on the ground they are going to be meeting today and we might have a much much different day in Minneapolis, we could certainly hope. So we can say we don't know how many, right, I don't think if you've seen somewhere, let me know. But I haven't seen anybody say how many they're expecting to leave today or the next few days.
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Speaker 3: Don't have that number yet, But just the fact that any are leaving probably is welcome news to a lot of folks who are living there.
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Speaker 1: All right, folks, Well, we just wanted to hop on fast moving development some overnight. But yes, an incredible day yesterday which could lead to a change in the prospects on the street of Minneapolis today. But folks will appreciate you spending time with us. I'm TJ. Holmes on the behalf of Amy Robob, who will talk to Els today.
Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Tuesday, January twenty seventh, and there is a change in tone, there is a change in strategy, and there is a change in leadership on the streets of Minneapolis. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rose the Does it feel like the tide has finally turned? There has been now, we can say, a shift, and cooler heads seem to be prevailing in Minneapolis.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, and it's about time.
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Speaker 3: It's sad that it took three public killings for this to happen, but yes, Alex Pretti's killing has absolutely and the reaction to it and the videos that don't agree with the statements, all of that has built up to a point now where finally we are seeing some it's not reconciliation, but at least an acknowledgment of the other position.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we went from get the fuck out of Minneapolis too. I just had a good phone call. That's why don't you have the good phone call at the beginning? I understand the anger is there, and but we had to get through all this with somebody else died because these folks weren't talking on the phone. So yes, folks, what we're talking about here in Minneapolis as we're getting up on this morning on Tuesday, there is absolutely a change in the mindset, in the tone in the tune from everybody. So let's start with the update here, and let's not say everything is all good. There was fairly ugly scene last night. We'll tell you this first. Folks that last night, I believe at least a dozen I don't think dozens, but at least a dozen folks were arrested. Rose another one of these scenes we've seen at a hotel. They think Bevino staying at this hotel. Group of protesters show up. They've been banging pots and whatnot, but they were told to disperse. So last night went up until ten o'clock local time, freezing temperatures. But they arrested a dozen or so folks last night to get them away. They thought he was living at that or staying at that hotel.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I actually read twenty six people were arrested last night outside the hotel because yes, dozens, and they said that there was property damage, objects being thrown at officers. It got heated outside of that hotel because they were trying to make his last night a terrible one, or at least try to keep him up all night, which is just look, if you've got the announcement that the guy is leaving, that the president is making changes, maybe go ahead.
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Speaker 2: And I shouldn't tell people what to do, but it just seems like.
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Speaker 3: It would have maybe been in the spirit of saying, let me do my part. It would have maybe been nice to see that not happen, but it happened. Ten dozens of people were arrested.
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Speaker 1: They wanted to express themselves in right now. They feel to some degree that they have an advantage that they are actually have at least winning at this point, because yes, this is a big deal. The face, the name you have been seeing on the streets there in charge of the operation that is headline won. There will be a change in leadership on the ground in Minneapolis. And well who you've been seeing Greg Bavino, and you've seen a lot more of him in the past few days. And because of what you were seeing and what he was saying, quite frankly, is being pointed to is why he's being pulled out. But Greg Bavino is being taken out of Minneapolis, being replaced by the bordersar Tom Homan, also big deal. Trump, Waltz, Fry all got on the phone together, separate phone calls, but Trump talked to Walt's Trump talked to Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry. All of them talked and came out singing a very different tune. Other headline. Agents will start leaving today. You hear that, folks, That surge of federal agents in Minneapolis, we are now told is going to start scaling back today. But robes the big headline. And look, Greg Bavino. He has been giving press conferences and he was out on the street. We saw him throwing tear gas at one point. But he has been the face this is a big deal he does.
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Speaker 3: That face is gone after today, leaving Minneapolis today along with several of those agents, which will be a cause for celebration for a lot of folks there in that city. But yeah, he was the top commander. He is the top commander of border Patrol. We should make that very clear, because Trump wanted it to be known. He is not being fired, he is not being demoted. He is just leaving Minneapolis, and there are clear reasons why. As we've just pointed out, he literally was the face of that initial DHS response that was squarely pointing the finger victim, blaming, saying Alex Pretti wanted to massacre Border patrol agents, that he was brandishing a weapon, none of which those videos show.
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Speaker 1: It didn't take analysis of the video now it was so clear that what he was saying and what Christy Nolan were saying was actually factually wrong. It made it worse. Right if you just say, hey, we're going to look at the investigation and we'll look into it is one thing. So are they came out and defended they were lying to our faces.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: And not only did they come out defending the Border patrol agents, they came out accusing the victim, blaming the victim, saying that he was just this instigator who was out to kill as many Border Patrol agents as he could with magazines and his gun. I mean they went within what not that long after the incident. They would jumped and rushed to all of these statements. And the problem is now you have a massive credibility issue, and no matter what Bovino was going to say, and frankly Christy nomans in this category right now, we're not going to believe as journalists what you tell us now because you've just proven that we cannot.
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Speaker 1: Again, that's one thing. If the press doesn't believe you, but the public doesn't believe you, they don't have to believe us. They don't have to listen to a reporter. They can hear Christy Nomes say, this guy came here to kill as many agents as he could. And you're seeing a guy with a cell phone walking trying to help a woman up from the ground who has been pushed down. It just doesn't work. So they had a public credibility problem, and that robes what you're talking about is the thing that many believe has changed this whole scenario because of Donald Trump. He reportedly is pissed at how Baveno and Gnome have handled and coming out and saying those things. It's all been botched, and he now has been put in a position to where public sentiment has turned it seems at least against him, and he knows it.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and he knows it, and he is acting accordingly. He understands. I think, look, you even look at the Greenland situation. There comes a point where he understands where he cannot overcome the public sentiment. And you saw him do it last week with Greenland quietly, confidently, and yet an obvious shift in rhetoric and direction in town. This exact thing is happening in Minneapolis right now. He knows when he cannot overcome a situation where he cannot force an outcome to be what he wants it to be, and so he is backing off to the point where CNN reported this and I see you have it here as well, that Greg Bovino's social media.
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Speaker 2: Access has been taken away.
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Speaker 3: That is what they are reporting. That might just speak to just how upset President Trump is.
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Speaker 1: What was a commander at large, I think is what that official one is from the Border Patrol. But yes, c and N is reporting that. I think everybody's picking up on their reporting. But Rhodes, he has that's one thing at the press conference, but he continues to spin that narrative, and he's been going head to head with members of Congress and doing that Twitter. Look, they're following the president's lead.
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Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, he's probably doing what he thinks he's supposed to do, because that's what we see Trump doing all the time, engaging in public sparring on social media.
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Speaker 1: So he's apparently been banned from doing that by the administration, not by X by the way, but the White House made clear that he is not being relieved of his duties because that would look bad. That would look like, Hey, we put a guy in there, he's failing, so we're removing him. You can't do that, So the guy's just moving to another spot now. Asked specifically about being demoted or reassigned, Catherine excuse me, Carolyn Levitt at the White House yesterday said he is very much going to continue to lead customs and Border patrol throughout and across the country. He's leaving, He's leaving at least Minneapolis. She was asked specifically, is he leaving Minneapolis? That was her answer, Nope, He's going to continue to lead customs and border patrol throughout and across.
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Speaker 2: The country, across the country, just not in Minneapolis.
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Speaker 1: We heard that. So he's being replaced by Holman, who apparently Roes has a pretty good reputation on both sides.
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Speaker 3: Uh. Yes, And it seems like he is the man that perhaps not just Minneapolis needs, but that the country needs at this point. He is the borders are sixty four years old, but he's been with border patrol on ice for forty plus years. So he has worked through many, many administrations, specifically during the Obama administration, which you know, for folks who are on either side of the political aisle, to have someone who has served in a bipartisan role or at least for different types of presidents does speak highly to being uniquely qualified to handle this situation because it is so much about Republicans versus Democrats, the administration versus those who are on the other side of the political aisle. So to have somebody who has been a unifier, at least in the past is a step in the right direction.
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Speaker 1: And they were quick to point out at one point President Obama acknowledged him by giving him award for his like a prestigious award for his efforts, so that gives him some credit. It's crazy. I can get along with the Republican I can get along with the Democrats, So therefore now I'm good. Should be the case. But we'll take you.
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Speaker 2: It's rare these days, but.
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Speaker 1: He is on his way. He supposed to be there to day now. We talked about robes, the other shifts, and a big part of this I help me here. Do you remember them? Saying they had been on the phone prior to this, as Trump talked to waltz Or Trump talked to Mayor Fry before. I can't remember.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if they have.
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Speaker 3: What I I remember is Walt's publicly saying that he wouldn't take his call, that Trump wouldn't take his call, that.
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Speaker 2: He was trying to reach out, he was trying to call.
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Speaker 3: Trump and he hadn't heard back, so he was throwing Trump under the bus for not returning his phone call.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so apparently they all got on the phone yesterday, and what a difference a phone call makes. They all came out yesterday Robes, Trump, Fry, and Walt and gave their own I guess account of how those calls went. Every single one of them said, at least it was productive, and they were all quite respectful of the people. They have been publicly horrib I mean, just hurling all kinds of insults publicly. But sweetheart, this was this always happens, remember Mom, Donnie. The worst thing they were saying about each other. He goes to the White House and they look, buddy, buddy, this is just one of those things. They sound like good friends.
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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, you know what. I don't need to understand it. I'm just happy that's happening. Yes, this is what Trump had to say about Mayor Fry, because what he's had to say about Mayor and Fry up until now, some of it probably wasn't even fit for broadcast. But he said, I just had a very good telephone conversation with Mayor Jacob Fry of Minneapolis.
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Speaker 2: Lots of progress is being made.
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Speaker 3: Tom Holman will be meeting with him tomorrow, that's today, in order to continue the discussion.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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Speaker 1: That's a huge score for all of us to see, like we are so relieved to see the president not spitting fire. This calms every just a simple, simple couple of lines.
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Speaker 2: My shoulders relaxed reading that.
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Speaker 1: Seriously, just okay, maybe we'll be okay. And he spoke on Walter as well. He said they called that Walt's call to request they worked together on Minnesota. Said it was a very good call. Quote, we actually seem to be on this similar wavelength.
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Speaker 2: What yay? Finally, Hugh, there's always common ground. Sometimes you just have to look a little harder for it.
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Speaker 1: How about this for a line the Governor very respectfully understood, and I will be speaking to him in the near future. He was happy with Tom Holman that he's going to be going to Minnesota, and so am I. We've had such tremendous success Da da ropes. Wait here it is this last line here in Minnesota. Crime is way down, but both Governor Walt and I want to make it better. Yeah, they sound like teammates.
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Speaker 3: Look, that was amazing, and that's what it should have been from the beginning, and look better late than ever. I truly believe that. But I did sound it did sound like. We listened to Carolyn love It's press conference yesterday and they were giving state leaders an off ramp, basically saying, hey, if you guys just hand over all of the illegal migrants they used another term, who are currently in your prisons, and hand them over to us to be deported, we'll be happy. And if anyone who has an arrest warner has a you know, a violent criminal history, if you let us arrest them, and you assist us and arrest.
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Speaker 2: Them, we'll leave.
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Speaker 3: So there was they were dangling, hey, just let us have access to convicted criminals who are not in this country legally it felt like that was the public offering that was being made.
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Speaker 1: I was worried watching her press conference. It was appointment television for US yesterday, usually happens around one o'clock. It was a little delayed, but it was the first one since Alex Pretty's death. So we were watching that with very very perked up years in that moment. But I was concerned afterwards that things were not going to be going the right direction because she laid out almost demands and she once again doubled and tripled down on a narrative. We've just been competing narratives since he's gotten killed. I mean, in Minneapolis, has just been a competing narrative, and she seemed to be continuing with that. Three conditions. Democrats need to turn over all illegal immigrants and to federal authorities. State and local law enforcement must turn over all illegal undocumented immigrants who are arrested. And they must assist in apprehending and detaining those who are wanted. She laid out three conditions, do this and it's all good. And then we heard about the phone calls. We say this, well, it was during the shutdown, right ropes. We were shocked. We were three weeks into the shutdown and the two sides weren't talking.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, it's great.
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Speaker 3: Wait what people are trying to figure out how to put a meal on the table and you're like, we're not talking. That's your job to talk, that's your job to negotiate. That is what democracy is. That is what any sort of union is. That is what a marriage is.
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Speaker 1: You talk things through, you really care, you know, you put it and everybody can relate to that. If there is a problem or a conflict, how was it going to get solved? If you're back in the bedroom and homeboys downstairs in the basement, you have to talk. They had one phone call and all of a sudden things are okay. Why didn't we do that from the beginning? I don't know who knows, but we're talking about these phone calls. We told you how Trump viewed them. We will tell you now how Governor Tim Waltz and Mayor Jacob Fry. We will hear their assessments of how those phone calls went. Stay here, all right, folks, We continue here on Amy and TJ on this Tuesday, which could be a turning point in what we've seen on the streets of Minneapolis, all because Robes, a couple of folks decided to pick up a phone call to each other.
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Speaker 2: It's amazing what conversation and communication can do.
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Speaker 1: That's what we're literally talking about. Two phone calls have changed.
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Speaker 3: What's so interesting is everything President Trump has said that he is, you know, the president of peace.
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Speaker 2: He's got his Board of Peace, He's basically solved.
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Speaker 3: He says eight and a half wars around the world in just a year's time. And you'd think he would understand this than being the president of peace that he is. But you know what, he finally figured it out in terms of his ability. He has that power he actually does as the president to be the peacemaker, to be the bridge, and he finally decided to be that person.
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Speaker 1: We always put something in front of something in chief, commander in chief, but sometimes the consoler in chiefs this right. During moments where we struggle in this country, we do look to the president to comfort us, and his words can ratchet things up or he can calm things down. He took a stance here, Yes, you're right. JD. Vance went to town. Didn't help things bring things to temperature down right, because he said things that inflamed. The President just simply said I had a good call. We're on the same page. We want to work together. He didn't admit in his in any of his comments that he was pulling agents.
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Speaker 2: Did he No, I didn't see that. I didn't see that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that came from Walt and fry. So let's tell you that fry in particular, Mayor Jacob Frye, who has gotten a lot of incoming from the President. He had two messages in particular robes on X. He was the one and this was a big headlining, big breaking news. He was the one that let us know that agents were going to be leaving.
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Speaker 2: That's right, he said.
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Speaker 3: I spoke with President Trump today and appreciated the conversation.
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Speaker 1: Wow wow.
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Speaker 3: I expressed how much Minneapolis has benefited from our immigrant communities and was clear that my main ask is that Operation Metro Surge needs to end. The President agreed the present situation can't continue.
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Speaker 2: Boom wow, and then he said some.
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Speaker 3: Federal agents will begin leaving the area tomorrow, and I will continue pushing for the rest involved in this operation to go.
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Speaker 1: Wow that tomorrow being today, folks, we are going to suit. We've been hearingge surge surge. There were two thousand there. They sent another thousand surging surging. It's going down. We are told that today agents will start leaving Minneapolis. That is a big headline. That's a big deal, and it can go a long long way ropes to changing these scenes we've seen on the streets. There's a less chance starting today if somebody getting killed probably again.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just I just it's so sad that it took Alex Pretty's death for us to get here. It is sad that they couldn't have had a conversation about what both sides were wanted and how both sides could feel like they had to win.
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Speaker 2: And it was, it was found, and it was there all along. After a third man had to die. It's tough.
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Speaker 1: And Governor Waltz spoke as well. I had a productive call with President Trump earlier today. Bro. But that's a remarkable given the words we have been seeing for the past couple of weeks.
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Speaker 3: My laughter is that normally that would be a statement in any other administration, but to have that be like this huge headline, it just speaks to the times we're in.
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Speaker 2: That's why I laughed. I was just laughing at the perspective of that statement.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're right, you were laughing as well when we were talking about the shutdown. It's only a partial shutdown, so it's going to be a success. We will take the We just have the governor of a US state and the President talking and we're celebrating.
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Speaker 2: Yes, in the United States of America.
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Speaker 1: He said he had a productive call with the President. He said, I told him we need impartial investigations of the Minneapolis shootings involving federal agents, and that we need to reduce the number of federal agents in Minnesota. The President agreed to look into reducing the number of federal agents in Minnesota and to talk to DHS about ensuring the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, essentially saying that we have access and that Minnesota can do its own investigation. This is I know it's baby steps, but we will take it. I know this seems like a baby step. That three men talked. This is ginormous. Oh it is.
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Speaker 3: This is just and probably life saving, that's the sad thing. But yes, this is going to be peace preserving, and this is what we need more of in this country. Is for adults to act like adults.
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Speaker 1: And we should let you know, folks, that we have a few adults going to be meeting. We do believe in Minneapolis today, Tom Holman, the borders are who's being sent is set, at least according to may Or Fry set to meet with Holman today. And also I believe Governor Waltz is as well. They spoke about to mean that the President wants them to get together. So the principles, at least on the ground they are going to be meeting today and we might have a much much different day in Minneapolis, we could certainly hope. So we can say we don't know how many, right, I don't think if you've seen somewhere, let me know. But I haven't seen anybody say how many they're expecting to leave today or the next few days.
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Speaker 3: Don't have that number yet, But just the fact that any are leaving probably is welcome news to a lot of folks who are living there.
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Speaker 1: All right, folks, Well, we just wanted to hop on fast moving development some overnight. But yes, an incredible day yesterday which could lead to a change in the prospects on the street of Minneapolis today. But folks will appreciate you spending time with us. I'm TJ. Holmes on the behalf of Amy Robob, who will talk to Els today.