Nov. 9, 2026
One Of The Most Powerful Men In The World Compromised More Than His Marriage In Affair With Chinese Spy
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RSS Feed The CEO of one of the world’s most powerful companies has admitted to having an affair with a woman U.S. intelligence agencies have determined was a Chinese spy. Jensen Huang has publicly apologized to his wife and family for his affair with Chinese businesswoman Alice Huang, saying “there’s no excuse for what I did.” However, there are larger concerns beyond just personal embarrassment given that U.S. officials say Alice Huang was recruited to spy by China’s top intelligence agency. Nvidia has launched an official investigation into the matter but has said it “has no reason to believe that either national security or NVIDIA secrets were compromised.”
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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Monday, November 9th. And sure, we've heard of CEOs getting in trouble before because they had an affair. But this CEO is in trouble for having an affair that risked national security. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ, where this story gets more and more intriguing. Robes, you're talking about sex, power, and money. Tale as old as time.
00:00:41
Speaker 2: Right.
00:00:41
Speaker 1: But still with some new angles to this one.
00:00:43
Speaker 2: I was going to say, with a modern twist, because you add artificial intelligence, a much sought after technology behind these chips that NVIDIA deals in, and a race against.
00:00:58
Speaker 3: Who will be... ahead of the other in China versus American.
00:01:02
Speaker 2: It's a new form of a Cold War in a sense that we're, instead of nuclear weapons, we're not amassing those like we were perhaps back in the 80s and in other times. But no, now we're amassing technology that potentially could also end the world as we know it.
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Speaker 1: But no, Rose, that is a very key part of the story is to make sure we understand how big of a deal this is. A cold war we are in against China. We are jumping through hoops. Hell, we're canceling TikTok, for God's sakes, because we're worried about intertype of intermingling or them getting hands on technology here. They're worried about the same, but any of the US technology. So yes, the AI race is being led at this point by the American side. Correct. The NVIDIAs of the world, right? And what's the guy? I can see his face. Sam Altman with OpenAI. All these guys.
00:01:59
Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
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Speaker 1: Elon Musk. Oh, yes. Winning that race. That's important to note in this story.
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Speaker 2: Yes. And they all need those chips and that technology that is developed by NVIDIA. And look, remember just not that long ago, we were hearing folks on the AI side of things saying, if this technology.
00:02:18
Speaker 3: Falls in the wrong hands, or perhaps.
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Speaker 2: If it's just allowed to continue unharnessed, the damn robots themselves could end up taking over the world or the computers could turn against humans. Yes, this is serious technology that we have been warned against by its creators that if it isn't harnessed, if it isn't kept in a certain realm or under certain security protocols, the world as we know it could literally cease to exist.
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Speaker 1: Those are the stakes. And the guy right smack dab in the middle of this cold war who is providing the technology that allows AI to be developed is Jensen Wong. Jensen Wong that I guess a lot of people, Robes, will be familiar with, even though they don't know the name. The guy with the glasses and the leather jackets all the time. At this point, people are familiar with his face enough because they often see it right next to the president.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be honest, I wasn't as familiar with his name, but as soon as I saw, yes, his face, he has a different type of very expensive leather jacket on, it seems like, in any different photo op, from a crocodile, like, python-looking jacket to just.
00:03:36
Speaker 3: Your regular motorcycle jacket. I mean, he's got them all, but yes, that's kind of his defining look.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and he is in charge of a company that, depending on what day you check, is the most valuable company on planet Earth. NVIDIA goes back and forth with Apple. Depends on what new product Apple has launched recently, but these two go back and forth to being the most valuable companies in the world. That's the guy we're talking about. So, Robes, it's one thing, and this would have been bad enough, but he has now had to admit that he had an affair, and That would look bad for the company, but given how much power he has, that probably wouldn't cost him his job.
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Speaker 2: No, and yes, given his power, given his wealth, given his intelligence, given all of that, yes, but this isn't just embarrassing. Yes, his children actually have pretty high-profile positions within the company. His wife also, at one point, he's credited her so much with part of his success, but she was even more successful and wealthier than he was at one point in their burgeoning careers. They met in college. She's as smart as they come as well. And they have a 40 plus year marriage. He was one of those, their marriages were one of those marriages people looked up to. Like, how did you do it? How did you, how did you make it work? How did you keep the family business afloat? Having your whole family be a part of the business. They were honestly a power family. People looked up to him. and asked questions like so as to emulate.
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Speaker 1: Incredible success story. They're an incredible success story without a doubt. So NVIDIA, Rose, does business with people all over the world. This gets us to where this all, where this controversy is now just exploding. There's a company I've certainly never heard of called Megaspeed that was buying chips from NVIDIA. They were buying chips from NVIDIA and they're, I guess, person who was purchasing from NVIDIA.
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Speaker 3: Head of sales.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Alice Wong is her name.
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Speaker 3: No relation.
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Speaker 1: They have the same last name, no relation. So she, because she is the point person from Megaspeed that is spending nearly $ 5 billion in buying chips. This is not just some small company. So she develops a relationship with the head of NVIDIA, Mr. Jensen Wong. Here is the problem. No one knew at the time that the U.S. government was actually monitoring and surveilling the company Megaspeed because why, Robes? They thought they might be passing information to China.
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Speaker 3: Correct.
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Speaker 2: And they were concerned at just how close it appeared Alice Huang was to, yes, the CEO.
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Speaker 1: Some American citizen at first, right? They didn't even know necessarily who they were dealing with.
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Speaker 2: But then when they put two and two together and realized that American Citizen was none other than Jensen Huang, real concern emerged because, yes, U.S. intelligence officials have deemed Alice Huang a Chinese spy. Yes.
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Speaker 3: Period.
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Speaker 1: Let that sink in. A Chinese spy was in the bed of one of the most important people in the AI race, an American.
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Speaker 2: Who has the ear of President Trump.
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Speaker 1: Yes, he does. Rose, this is serious. This is really serious.
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Speaker 3: And the questions are being asked by U.S.
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Speaker 2: Intelligence officials, by a now investigative team looking within its own company. NVIDIA has launched its own investigation into its own CEO.
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Speaker 3: But obviously there are concerns that perhaps....
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Speaker 2: The Chinese government might have gotten wind of this chumminess of this affair and actually forced Alice into spying for them. Or was she a spy that was set out or ordered to get chummy with Jensen Huang? They don't know which order things happened, but they do believe there was a directive that by China to Alice, whether she was willing, if she was forced, if she was complicit, if she knew about it all along, but they do believe at.
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Speaker 3: Some point, yes, she was given a mission.
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Speaker 2: Well, yes.
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Speaker 1: Yes, they'll investigate how this all came about. But it matters not in terms of the results. How much did she hear? Did she overhear? Was she actively going through anything of his? Was she actively going through his phone? Was she actively? We just don't know. Rose, this is a guy who can pick up his phone and get President Trump on the other line. Rose, what in God's name happened here? This is a really, this is embarrassing. This is really, really embarrassing.
00:08:46
Speaker 2: You start thinking about this from a movie's perspective. And obviously, this is real-life implications, and this isn't a movie.
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Speaker 3: This actually happened.
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Speaker 2: But I start imagining Jensen Huang sleeping, post-coital sex, and you're sleeping, and.
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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, he falls asleep. She leans over. She grabs his phone.
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Speaker 2: She takes his hand. She puts the fingerprint. I'm thinking about all these things that could have happened, how compromised he may have been, how vulnerable... He could have been. Could she have slipped a little something extra in his drink so that he slept a little longer so she had a little more time to go through his stuff?
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Speaker 3: Who knows what was going on, but she had access.
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Speaker 2: And he not only made himself, his family, and his company vulnerable, he could have made the United States of America vulnerable.
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Speaker 1: Access to one of the most powerful men in the world who has access to the most powerful man in the world. NVIDIA, though, Robes, is not worried. Their board did put out a statement acknowledging much of this, but those concerns you have, Ro, excuse me, that you just laid out about what was compromised, they put out a statement suggesting they don't think anything was.
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Speaker 2: Yes. So this was their official statement. The NVIDIA board is initiating an independent investigation. in light of recent reporting that founder and CEO Jensen Huang has been the target of a foreign intelligence effort. A committee of independent directors assisted by outside independent counsel has will oversee the investigation. The board prioritizes U.S. national and economic security, which is paramount to the interests of NVIDIA and its shareholders. While the board has no reason to believe that either national security or NVIDIA secrets were compromised, the board's inquiry will examine all available information. Jensen fully supports the review and has committed to cooperating with it The board has confidence in Jensen and his leadership team and will provide further updates as appropriate.
00:10:48
Speaker 1: The company's taken a little bit of a hit in the stock market as of this recording. At one point, I think, was down 10% for the day. The last we looked, it was 3% or 4% that the stock was down. Some concerns there, but Rose, he is so attached to this company. He is... He's like you think about Apple and you think about the presentations and the guy in the jeans and the black shirt. He's attached to it as the face of it in that way. And I don't know. They don't know what's next. What happens with this company? This is a very important company. We were arguing about data centers during the election. You know, his technology is needed to power those things to create AI.
00:11:33
Speaker 3: It's true.
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Speaker 2: He is the Steve Jobs, the Tim Cook. I know that Apple has gone through its CEOs.
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Speaker 3: But when you have a name like that attached to technology that is changing the world, you remember the name. And so, yes, Jensen Huang's name is now on that level.
00:11:50
Speaker 1: Are more people going to know about NVIDIA now? because of this than they did before. It was hard to have a good handle. If you weren't paying attention all the time, which guy does what? We got Steve Altman here, Elon's over here, and this guy's here, and who does what in the whole AI race? But NVIDIA's on the map today for.
00:12:10
Speaker 3: All the wrong reasons.
00:12:11
Speaker 1: All right, well, we did hear from Jensen Wong. He did put out a brief statement. We'll let you know what he said. And we did hear from the president. He was asked about this by reporters. You'll hear that too.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and DJ.
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Speaker 2: We were just going back and forth over the pronunciation of NVIDIA. I've been saying NVIDIA, but NVIDIA is perhaps the correct way to say it.
00:12:44
Speaker 1: It's like nuclear and nuclear, right? No, I'm kidding.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is one that is definitely right and one that is wrong.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and so I was so focused on getting Jensen Huang's name right that, yes, NVIDIA. But we did hear directly from Jensen Huang, He made this statement to.
00:13:04
Speaker 3: The company, correct? So he said, I was unfaithful to my wife.
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Speaker 2: My actions hurt her and our children. There is no excuse for what I did. I am deeply sorry.
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Speaker 1: Short and sweet to the point that was a little more to it, but he didn't say much more. I mean, that's that. Nothing more. Now, how much did he hurt? The industry, baby.
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Speaker 3: If the United States had not been, if U.S.
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Speaker 2: Intelligence services had not been investigating her as a possible spy, would their affair have even been uncovered?
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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a good question, Rose. That's a good question because there is also New York Times reporting that the U.S. was aware of, excuse me, all the way up to Secretary of State Marco Rubio. signed on to a memo, a top-secret memo that was passed around pointing out this exact thing to administration officials. And I think they, was it shared with other countries possibly? That this was going on. They knew that this was happening. Who ultimately revealed it? Was it the New York Times that I think ultimately did a report about this? And here we are. But it was known. It wasn't the New York Times that prompted the State Department to look into it.
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Speaker 2: Yes, they were aware of the situation, and they were aware of the implications of this affair and what it could lead to, what it could mean. And certainly just knowing that someone with that much information and that much power could potentially compromise not only that technology but national security based on an affair that he had noâ She was potentially in this relationship for the sole design of passing along information to the Chinese government.
00:15:19
Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy.
00:15:22
Speaker 1: Could you have picked a worse person to have an extramarital affair with? He picked a person.
00:15:31
Speaker 3: She might have picked him, though. We don't know.
00:15:33
Speaker 2: Who knows? She could have had a directive from the Chinese government and laid it on thick. I'm not saying he wasn't capable of resisting. I'm not, well, you know, what's a man to do when a hot young thing is throwing herself at him?
00:15:46
Speaker 1: Make sure you get that straight.
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Speaker 3: I am not trying to say that in any way, shape, or form. I'm just saying, yes, he was weak. He fumbled. He made a choice. And yes, he has to suffer the consequences.
00:15:56
Speaker 2: But I wonder if she had a soul design to woo him and to lure him into bed so she could.
00:16:03
Speaker 3: Do her thing for her country.
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Speaker 1: Or was she recruited after she was already in a relationship? That's what we don't know. But either way, Robes, the thing is, if he's having an affair, I assume he wants to go out of his way to hide that affair. Robes, he's having an affair with somebody who is literally being monitored by U.S. intelligence. You're not going to get away with that.
00:16:27
Speaker 3: You are not. Look, at the very least, that prevents blackmail, though.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that would be the biggest concern of all. if there was something that they were able to hold over his head that he had to give up or he had to provide in order to keep this affair secret, that would be the scariest part of it all. Probably, well, not probably, certainly the best thing that could have happened for the protection of the technology, the protection of the company, the protection of this country is for the affair to have been known because therefore all the power she may have held over him personally is gone because the cat's.
00:17:00
Speaker 3: Out of the bag.
00:17:01
Speaker 1: This is an unbelievable story. But Robes, as much as we're talking about powerful men and technology and cold wars having to do with AI, Robes, this is the bottom line. This is still a human story. Yeah. And there is a family right now that's devastated in having to deal with this in a very public manner. I don't wish that on anybody, including him.
00:17:27
Speaker 2: Exactly.
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Speaker 1: Robes, even though he's the one responsible, this is... a lot for them.
00:17:32
Speaker 2: Yes, it certainly is. And President Trump has weighed in on it. He, of course, has been asked about this. And he put it like this. He said, I just know he's a fine person, but you never know what is going on.
00:17:44
Speaker 3: I hope everything's fine. He's done such an incredible job.
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Speaker 2: He's a fine person, in my opinion. He goes on to say, I think he's an honorable guy. I think he probably has an excuse for it. He's done an amazing job for our country.
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Speaker 1: What do you make of that? It was on the tarmac. He Didn't seem like you had thought about it too much.
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Speaker 2: No, I think he wants to preserve his friendship and his relationship and his business relationship with Jensen Huang. I mean, look, I think the company, NVIDIA, made it very clear that Jensen Huang is not going anywhere. Yeah. And as long as he isn't going anywhere and he remains the CEO.
00:18:26
Speaker 3: Of NVIDIA and this technology, certainly.
00:18:29
Speaker 2: The United States and President Trump is going to want to maintain a decent relationship with said CEO.
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Speaker 1: And they want that company working, turning out tech to make sure the U.S. stays ahead. It is in Trump's interest that this guy gets through this mess. Oh, my goodness. What a story. All right, folks. Well, just wanted to get you updated there. I'm TJ. On behalf of my dear Amy Robach, we'll talk soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Monday, November 9th. And sure, we've heard of CEOs getting in trouble before because they had an affair. But this CEO is in trouble for having an affair that risked national security. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ, where this story gets more and more intriguing. Robes, you're talking about sex, power, and money. Tale as old as time.
00:00:41
Speaker 2: Right.
00:00:41
Speaker 1: But still with some new angles to this one.
00:00:43
Speaker 2: I was going to say, with a modern twist, because you add artificial intelligence, a much sought after technology behind these chips that NVIDIA deals in, and a race against.
00:00:58
Speaker 3: Who will be... ahead of the other in China versus American.
00:01:02
Speaker 2: It's a new form of a Cold War in a sense that we're, instead of nuclear weapons, we're not amassing those like we were perhaps back in the 80s and in other times. But no, now we're amassing technology that potentially could also end the world as we know it.
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Speaker 1: But no, Rose, that is a very key part of the story is to make sure we understand how big of a deal this is. A cold war we are in against China. We are jumping through hoops. Hell, we're canceling TikTok, for God's sakes, because we're worried about intertype of intermingling or them getting hands on technology here. They're worried about the same, but any of the US technology. So yes, the AI race is being led at this point by the American side. Correct. The NVIDIAs of the world, right? And what's the guy? I can see his face. Sam Altman with OpenAI. All these guys.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
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Speaker 1: Elon Musk. Oh, yes. Winning that race. That's important to note in this story.
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Speaker 2: Yes. And they all need those chips and that technology that is developed by NVIDIA. And look, remember just not that long ago, we were hearing folks on the AI side of things saying, if this technology.
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Speaker 3: Falls in the wrong hands, or perhaps.
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Speaker 2: If it's just allowed to continue unharnessed, the damn robots themselves could end up taking over the world or the computers could turn against humans. Yes, this is serious technology that we have been warned against by its creators that if it isn't harnessed, if it isn't kept in a certain realm or under certain security protocols, the world as we know it could literally cease to exist.
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Speaker 1: Those are the stakes. And the guy right smack dab in the middle of this cold war who is providing the technology that allows AI to be developed is Jensen Wong. Jensen Wong that I guess a lot of people, Robes, will be familiar with, even though they don't know the name. The guy with the glasses and the leather jackets all the time. At this point, people are familiar with his face enough because they often see it right next to the president.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be honest, I wasn't as familiar with his name, but as soon as I saw, yes, his face, he has a different type of very expensive leather jacket on, it seems like, in any different photo op, from a crocodile, like, python-looking jacket to just.
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Speaker 3: Your regular motorcycle jacket. I mean, he's got them all, but yes, that's kind of his defining look.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and he is in charge of a company that, depending on what day you check, is the most valuable company on planet Earth. NVIDIA goes back and forth with Apple. Depends on what new product Apple has launched recently, but these two go back and forth to being the most valuable companies in the world. That's the guy we're talking about. So, Robes, it's one thing, and this would have been bad enough, but he has now had to admit that he had an affair, and That would look bad for the company, but given how much power he has, that probably wouldn't cost him his job.
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Speaker 2: No, and yes, given his power, given his wealth, given his intelligence, given all of that, yes, but this isn't just embarrassing. Yes, his children actually have pretty high-profile positions within the company. His wife also, at one point, he's credited her so much with part of his success, but she was even more successful and wealthier than he was at one point in their burgeoning careers. They met in college. She's as smart as they come as well. And they have a 40 plus year marriage. He was one of those, their marriages were one of those marriages people looked up to. Like, how did you do it? How did you, how did you make it work? How did you keep the family business afloat? Having your whole family be a part of the business. They were honestly a power family. People looked up to him. and asked questions like so as to emulate.
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Speaker 1: Incredible success story. They're an incredible success story without a doubt. So NVIDIA, Rose, does business with people all over the world. This gets us to where this all, where this controversy is now just exploding. There's a company I've certainly never heard of called Megaspeed that was buying chips from NVIDIA. They were buying chips from NVIDIA and they're, I guess, person who was purchasing from NVIDIA.
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Speaker 3: Head of sales.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Alice Wong is her name.
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Speaker 3: No relation.
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Speaker 1: They have the same last name, no relation. So she, because she is the point person from Megaspeed that is spending nearly $ 5 billion in buying chips. This is not just some small company. So she develops a relationship with the head of NVIDIA, Mr. Jensen Wong. Here is the problem. No one knew at the time that the U.S. government was actually monitoring and surveilling the company Megaspeed because why, Robes? They thought they might be passing information to China.
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Speaker 3: Correct.
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Speaker 2: And they were concerned at just how close it appeared Alice Huang was to, yes, the CEO.
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Speaker 1: Some American citizen at first, right? They didn't even know necessarily who they were dealing with.
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Speaker 2: But then when they put two and two together and realized that American Citizen was none other than Jensen Huang, real concern emerged because, yes, U.S. intelligence officials have deemed Alice Huang a Chinese spy. Yes.
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Speaker 3: Period.
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Speaker 1: Let that sink in. A Chinese spy was in the bed of one of the most important people in the AI race, an American.
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Speaker 2: Who has the ear of President Trump.
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Speaker 1: Yes, he does. Rose, this is serious. This is really serious.
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Speaker 3: And the questions are being asked by U.S.
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Speaker 2: Intelligence officials, by a now investigative team looking within its own company. NVIDIA has launched its own investigation into its own CEO.
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Speaker 3: But obviously there are concerns that perhaps....
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Speaker 2: The Chinese government might have gotten wind of this chumminess of this affair and actually forced Alice into spying for them. Or was she a spy that was set out or ordered to get chummy with Jensen Huang? They don't know which order things happened, but they do believe there was a directive that by China to Alice, whether she was willing, if she was forced, if she was complicit, if she knew about it all along, but they do believe at.
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Speaker 3: Some point, yes, she was given a mission.
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Speaker 2: Well, yes.
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Speaker 1: Yes, they'll investigate how this all came about. But it matters not in terms of the results. How much did she hear? Did she overhear? Was she actively going through anything of his? Was she actively going through his phone? Was she actively? We just don't know. Rose, this is a guy who can pick up his phone and get President Trump on the other line. Rose, what in God's name happened here? This is a really, this is embarrassing. This is really, really embarrassing.
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Speaker 2: You start thinking about this from a movie's perspective. And obviously, this is real-life implications, and this isn't a movie.
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Speaker 3: This actually happened.
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Speaker 2: But I start imagining Jensen Huang sleeping, post-coital sex, and you're sleeping, and.
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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, he falls asleep. She leans over. She grabs his phone.
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Speaker 2: She takes his hand. She puts the fingerprint. I'm thinking about all these things that could have happened, how compromised he may have been, how vulnerable... He could have been. Could she have slipped a little something extra in his drink so that he slept a little longer so she had a little more time to go through his stuff?
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Speaker 3: Who knows what was going on, but she had access.
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Speaker 2: And he not only made himself, his family, and his company vulnerable, he could have made the United States of America vulnerable.
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Speaker 1: Access to one of the most powerful men in the world who has access to the most powerful man in the world. NVIDIA, though, Robes, is not worried. Their board did put out a statement acknowledging much of this, but those concerns you have, Ro, excuse me, that you just laid out about what was compromised, they put out a statement suggesting they don't think anything was.
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Speaker 2: Yes. So this was their official statement. The NVIDIA board is initiating an independent investigation. in light of recent reporting that founder and CEO Jensen Huang has been the target of a foreign intelligence effort. A committee of independent directors assisted by outside independent counsel has will oversee the investigation. The board prioritizes U.S. national and economic security, which is paramount to the interests of NVIDIA and its shareholders. While the board has no reason to believe that either national security or NVIDIA secrets were compromised, the board's inquiry will examine all available information. Jensen fully supports the review and has committed to cooperating with it The board has confidence in Jensen and his leadership team and will provide further updates as appropriate.
00:10:48
Speaker 1: The company's taken a little bit of a hit in the stock market as of this recording. At one point, I think, was down 10% for the day. The last we looked, it was 3% or 4% that the stock was down. Some concerns there, but Rose, he is so attached to this company. He is... He's like you think about Apple and you think about the presentations and the guy in the jeans and the black shirt. He's attached to it as the face of it in that way. And I don't know. They don't know what's next. What happens with this company? This is a very important company. We were arguing about data centers during the election. You know, his technology is needed to power those things to create AI.
00:11:33
Speaker 3: It's true.
00:11:33
Speaker 2: He is the Steve Jobs, the Tim Cook. I know that Apple has gone through its CEOs.
00:11:39
Speaker 3: But when you have a name like that attached to technology that is changing the world, you remember the name. And so, yes, Jensen Huang's name is now on that level.
00:11:50
Speaker 1: Are more people going to know about NVIDIA now? because of this than they did before. It was hard to have a good handle. If you weren't paying attention all the time, which guy does what? We got Steve Altman here, Elon's over here, and this guy's here, and who does what in the whole AI race? But NVIDIA's on the map today for.
00:12:10
Speaker 3: All the wrong reasons.
00:12:11
Speaker 1: All right, well, we did hear from Jensen Wong. He did put out a brief statement. We'll let you know what he said. And we did hear from the president. He was asked about this by reporters. You'll hear that too.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and DJ.
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Speaker 2: We were just going back and forth over the pronunciation of NVIDIA. I've been saying NVIDIA, but NVIDIA is perhaps the correct way to say it.
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Speaker 1: It's like nuclear and nuclear, right? No, I'm kidding.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is one that is definitely right and one that is wrong.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and so I was so focused on getting Jensen Huang's name right that, yes, NVIDIA. But we did hear directly from Jensen Huang, He made this statement to.
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Speaker 3: The company, correct? So he said, I was unfaithful to my wife.
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Speaker 2: My actions hurt her and our children. There is no excuse for what I did. I am deeply sorry.
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Speaker 1: Short and sweet to the point that was a little more to it, but he didn't say much more. I mean, that's that. Nothing more. Now, how much did he hurt? The industry, baby.
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Speaker 3: If the United States had not been, if U.S.
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Speaker 2: Intelligence services had not been investigating her as a possible spy, would their affair have even been uncovered?
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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a good question, Rose. That's a good question because there is also New York Times reporting that the U.S. was aware of, excuse me, all the way up to Secretary of State Marco Rubio. signed on to a memo, a top-secret memo that was passed around pointing out this exact thing to administration officials. And I think they, was it shared with other countries possibly? That this was going on. They knew that this was happening. Who ultimately revealed it? Was it the New York Times that I think ultimately did a report about this? And here we are. But it was known. It wasn't the New York Times that prompted the State Department to look into it.
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Speaker 2: Yes, they were aware of the situation, and they were aware of the implications of this affair and what it could lead to, what it could mean. And certainly just knowing that someone with that much information and that much power could potentially compromise not only that technology but national security based on an affair that he had noâ She was potentially in this relationship for the sole design of passing along information to the Chinese government.
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Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy.
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Speaker 1: Could you have picked a worse person to have an extramarital affair with? He picked a person.
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Speaker 3: She might have picked him, though. We don't know.
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Speaker 2: Who knows? She could have had a directive from the Chinese government and laid it on thick. I'm not saying he wasn't capable of resisting. I'm not, well, you know, what's a man to do when a hot young thing is throwing herself at him?
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Speaker 1: Make sure you get that straight.
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Speaker 3: I am not trying to say that in any way, shape, or form. I'm just saying, yes, he was weak. He fumbled. He made a choice. And yes, he has to suffer the consequences.
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Speaker 2: But I wonder if she had a soul design to woo him and to lure him into bed so she could.
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Speaker 3: Do her thing for her country.
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Speaker 1: Or was she recruited after she was already in a relationship? That's what we don't know. But either way, Robes, the thing is, if he's having an affair, I assume he wants to go out of his way to hide that affair. Robes, he's having an affair with somebody who is literally being monitored by U.S. intelligence. You're not going to get away with that.
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Speaker 3: You are not. Look, at the very least, that prevents blackmail, though.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that would be the biggest concern of all. if there was something that they were able to hold over his head that he had to give up or he had to provide in order to keep this affair secret, that would be the scariest part of it all. Probably, well, not probably, certainly the best thing that could have happened for the protection of the technology, the protection of the company, the protection of this country is for the affair to have been known because therefore all the power she may have held over him personally is gone because the cat's.
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Speaker 3: Out of the bag.
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Speaker 1: This is an unbelievable story. But Robes, as much as we're talking about powerful men and technology and cold wars having to do with AI, Robes, this is the bottom line. This is still a human story. Yeah. And there is a family right now that's devastated in having to deal with this in a very public manner. I don't wish that on anybody, including him.
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Speaker 2: Exactly.
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Speaker 1: Robes, even though he's the one responsible, this is... a lot for them.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it certainly is. And President Trump has weighed in on it. He, of course, has been asked about this. And he put it like this. He said, I just know he's a fine person, but you never know what is going on.
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Speaker 3: I hope everything's fine. He's done such an incredible job.
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Speaker 2: He's a fine person, in my opinion. He goes on to say, I think he's an honorable guy. I think he probably has an excuse for it. He's done an amazing job for our country.
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Speaker 1: What do you make of that? It was on the tarmac. He Didn't seem like you had thought about it too much.
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Speaker 2: No, I think he wants to preserve his friendship and his relationship and his business relationship with Jensen Huang. I mean, look, I think the company, NVIDIA, made it very clear that Jensen Huang is not going anywhere. Yeah. And as long as he isn't going anywhere and he remains the CEO.
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Speaker 3: Of NVIDIA and this technology, certainly.
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Speaker 2: The United States and President Trump is going to want to maintain a decent relationship with said CEO.
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Speaker 1: And they want that company working, turning out tech to make sure the U.S. stays ahead. It is in Trump's interest that this guy gets through this mess. Oh, my goodness. What a story. All right, folks. Well, just wanted to get you updated there. I'm TJ. On behalf of my dear Amy Robach, we'll talk soon.