Oct. 5, 2026
NOW: Caleb Flynn Sentencing Hearing Underway; Wife’s Family To Read Victim Impact Statements
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RSS Feed The former American Idol contestant who was convicted of the murder of his wife will learn how long he will remain behind bars. 40-year-old Caleb Flynn must first sit through victim impact statement from his wife Ashley’s family. Ashley’s mother, father, sister and brother-in-law are all in court, along with Flynn’s mother and father who already provided their statements for mercy to the judge. We also are learning that Caleb Flynn himself will be addressing the judge in today’s proceedings.
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00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Monday, October the 5th, and happening right now, the sentencing for Caleb Flynn in the so-called American Idol murder trial. He's convicted now of killing his wife, but there's still some question of whether or not he will spend the rest of his life in prison. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. And yes, Robes, we should say we just watched the beginning of this packed house, but there is We still have some questions, and they did answer at least one question early on.
00:00:36
Speaker 2: That's right.
00:00:37
Speaker 3: So the charges that Caleb Flynn was convicted of, there are actually a total of nine felonies a jury found him guilty of in less than three hours, by the way. But they announced today, for sentencing purposes, they're going to merge counts one through six. So those are aggravated murder, three separate counts of murder, felonious assault, two counts of that.
00:01:00
Speaker 2: So they're all going to be wrapped into one.
00:01:03
Speaker 3: And the judge does have a pretty decent size. He's able to be lenient based on how much.
00:01:13
Speaker 2: Time he wants him to serve before he'll be eligible for parole.
00:01:18
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:01:18
Speaker 1: And what is the judge going to do here, Robes? It makes sense what the judge decided to do with one through six. It is fascinating. There are He's been convicted of four counts of murder. Obviously, he only killed one person. It's interesting that Ohio law allows prosecutors to put forth a murder charge with different theories.
00:01:40
Speaker 4: Under this murder charge, you did this. Under this murder charge.
00:01:42
Speaker 1: So even if the jury decided they don't believe this theory or that theory, they still had two other theories to consider.
00:01:48
Speaker 2: And they found him guilty of all of them, right?
00:01:50
Speaker 4: Every single one.
00:01:51
Speaker 3: The first one, the most serious charge, he was found guilty of aggravated murder, and that requires premeditation. That requires basically a life sentence sentence. plus a three-year firearm specification. So the judge can decide life, but with however long until parole.
00:02:11
Speaker 4: So do I have right?
00:02:12
Speaker 1: That's the only question we have left today, is whether or not it's going to be eligible for parole or not.
00:02:18
Speaker 3: Correct, because the other murder counts he was found guilty of basically purposeful intent but no premeditation, purposeful killing during a felonious assault, and same with the third count as well. So all of those are 15 years to life. So he just has an option.
00:02:34
Speaker 2: He can say life.
00:02:36
Speaker 3: Without the possibility of parole, he could say life with, you know, however long.
00:02:42
Speaker 2: With the possibility of parole.
00:02:43
Speaker 3: And that will determine a lot of factors as to how long he would actually serve before he could be up for a parole board.
00:02:49
Speaker 1: But all we have heard during this trial, and we listened to most of the testimony, given, yes, the text messages, given the venom, the hatred, the deception, given the The audacity of killing this woman in her sleep while the kids are in the next room and then trying to get away with it. It's hard to believe that the judge is going to leave a lot of room for the possibility of him getting out of prison.
00:03:27
Speaker 2: That would be hard to believe indeed.
00:03:29
Speaker 3: And yes, because also, think about it from this perspective, he also isn't sitting there admitting it.
00:03:37
Speaker 5: He is denying it. He is maintaining his innocence.
00:03:39
Speaker 3: That is true. And also people might say, well, that's your right and that's his opportunity to appeal and potentially get a new trial. But it still actually does go a long way when it comes to sentencing. If you admit to the crime... you're more likely, obviously, to get some sort of leniency when it comes to sentencing.
00:03:56
Speaker 2: You're not guaranteed it, but you have a better shot at it.
00:03:59
Speaker 3: Now, add to the fact that he's still facing sentencing for counts seven, eight, and nine, and that's tampering with evidence.
00:04:06
Speaker 2: And that is not a.
00:04:09
Speaker 3: Good secondary charge to be dealing with, because now, yes, as you pointed out, not only is he denying it, but he's been found guilty of trying to fool investigators into thinking someone else did it.
00:04:21
Speaker 1: He's been convicted of covering up a crime that he's been convicted of.
00:04:25
Speaker 2: Correct.
00:04:26
Speaker 4: Robes, he's, I just can't imagine.
00:04:30
Speaker 1: It was just, it was baffling to even think that we're, he has to do a minimum to be.
00:04:36
Speaker 4: Up for parole. How old is he? He's 40.
00:04:40
Speaker 2: He's 40 years old. Exactly.
00:04:41
Speaker 1: Robes, this is going to be fascinating to hear. So they started, they have started the hearing. We have heard from Caleb Flynn's family already, wrote in these letters that his mom and dad have given to the judge.
00:04:56
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the best.
00:04:58
Speaker 1: I mean, what argument do you make as a parent at this point?
00:05:01
Speaker 3: These letters are carefully worded, and we don't know if they're actually going to get up in front of the court and speak, and maybe perhaps they won't because they've pre-submitted their letters. Maybe that would be or would feel cruel to the victim's family, to Ashley Flynn's family.
00:05:17
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, so that's unclear.
00:05:20
Speaker 3: But we do have their letters that they pre-released that they had already given to the judge to consider when considering Caleb's sentencing.
00:05:37
Speaker 1: And I couldn't see it, but to the parents, whether or not they'd speak, WLWT, local affiliate, is reporting that the parents of Caleb Flint are in the courtroom.
00:05:46
Speaker 3: Yes, they're in the courtroom, and we know Ashley's mother, father, sister, and brother-in-law are all in the courtroom as well. They were there, I believe, every single day of trial. All of those family members had been there. So they're back, and we can only assume that it's likely that all of them will stand up and give their statements for the judge to consider.
00:06:07
Speaker 4: Let's start here with the mom. We have both of them here. Have you read through both open roads?
00:06:12
Speaker 2: I have. I have.
00:06:13
Speaker 3: So this is a letter from Caleb Flynn's mom to the judge. She says, my name is Kim Flynn and I am Caleb Flynn's mom who is currently facing you for sentencing. I am writing to you today to respectfully request your mercy in his case. I understand that this is a serious matter and it has caused much pain for.
00:06:32
Speaker 2: All who are involved.
00:06:34
Speaker 3: As a mother, it deeply saddens me and breaks my heart to see my son in this situation.
00:06:39
Speaker 2: However, if you would allow me to speak.
00:06:41
Speaker 3: To you concerning the 38 years before the recent choices he's made. Caleb has always been close to God and his family. Growing up in church as a pastor's kid, he was always willing to serve the people and the Lord. He was a leader in every area of his life and looked up to by his peers from high school, college, and ministry settings. Always showing responsibility, hard work, and diligence, his accomplishments and awards would be too numerous to mention. He was never anything but respectful, polite, and kind. Even the COs in the Miami County Jail made mention to his dad and I about Caleb's character. He's even made a difference to the inmates in his pod by his example and attitude. I am not writing to excuse anything, and I know nothing will justify what has happened, but I know he has repented to his Lord and is remorseful for his decisions. Therefore, I appreciate you taking the time to read my letter and consider my request Thank you for your mercy and compassion in this matter. I don't know what a standard letter is from a mother to a judge to show her son mercy, but she showed none to Ashley Flynn in that letter.
00:07:51
Speaker 2: That stood out to me.
00:07:55
Speaker 1: Well, I guess what stood out, Robes, to you is going to match up with what stood out to me, which is how to carefully say he's sorry for his actions, but not for killing Ashley. anyone he's sorry for decisions he's made he's remorseful for decisions he's made but nowhere in there and i guess this is a legal thing i'm sure she's doing but it goes with what you're saying you can't show that she was this is the best she could hope for and begging for mercy what are you supposed to say here she she heard the song baby Everybody heard that song.
00:08:34
Speaker 3: Is she apologizing for his decision to have an affair? Because both of his parents are standing by him and say they believe him when he says he didn't kill his wife. And so, yes, they can't, I understand, in any way seem as though they're acknowledging he killed Ashley. I still think just saying something about the loss of Ashley and the grief of what their granddaughters are going through, just some nod to the pain of the other side It just seemed really vacant and void of that in a way that I think she could have found a moment to bring Ashley into it without necessarily damning her son.
00:09:15
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's try the dad's letter now. Dear Judge Pratt, this is Mike Flynn, Caleb's father. It's very nice to make your acquaintance. I'm respectfully writing to ask if you would consider my thoughts and perspective about my son before issuing sentence. It seems surreal to even pen these words to you, seeing that Caleb has never even seen the inside of a courtroom until now. By writing, I am in no way questioning or challenging the court's ruling, nor am I minimizing the seriousness of this matter or the far-reaching suffering and effects this tragedy has imposed on both sides of the family. Our pain is unimaginable. I am also not excusing Caleb's actions over the last two years, but they are not consistent with who caleb has always been that thing right he's saying actions what actions are we talking about he's talking about the affair no neither parent addresses that thing and that makes sense he is still claiming he's innocent and going to appeal the conviction that's.
00:10:15
Speaker 3: Why they have to word it that way but i still think that would sting so much just to hear Ashley Flynn's family, to hear that from Caleb Flynn's family as they beg a judge for mercy, not to even mention Ashley's name. I just feel like that is tough and would be hard to live through.
00:10:35
Speaker 4: All right. Well, stay with us.
00:10:37
Speaker 1: We'll let you hear the rest of Caleb Flynn's dad's letter. Also, we found out some new information about From the prosecutors, they are also chiming in about what they want the sentence to be, and they included one new detail that is pretty despicable.
00:10:55
Speaker 4: Stay here.
00:11:05
Speaker 1: All right, we continue here on Amy and TJ. The Caleb Flynn sentencing continues. As we speak, we're going to give you a full rundown of what happened. A little later, we want to hop on and give you an idea of what is going to be happening. And Robes, we're hearing from both sides. It's not not both sides, both parents of Caleb Flynn pleading as best they can with.
00:11:28
Speaker 4: The judge for mercy for their son. I don't know what mercy looks like. Maybe just.
00:11:32
Speaker 2: The possibility of parole.
00:11:34
Speaker 4: That's what mercy looks like right now.
00:11:35
Speaker 5: It's probably the best they can hope for at this point.
00:11:38
Speaker 3: But we're going to get to hear from Ashley's side of the family as well with their victim impact statements.
00:11:44
Speaker 2: But beforehand, we did get.
00:11:45
Speaker 5: The prosecutor's sentencing memo.
00:11:49
Speaker 2: And this is new.
00:11:50
Speaker 3: This is something we had not heard or we did not hear in trial that we're now we understood they dropped charges initially when they went to trial. when they decided not to bring Caleb Flynn and Ashley Flynn's daughters on the stand. And there was, it was, it was believed basically at that point that if they had testified, they would have testified to these charges that had been dropped, intimidating a potential witness.
00:12:18
Speaker 1: Robes, this is, they alluded to it, suggested that we knew this was the possibility, the walk he took with the kids and, Coming back and grandma said they look scared. I mean, this was the suggestion, but they have put it in the memo here and laid it out in touch away rows. This is pretty damning stuff. They say the defendant's effort to escape responsibility did not end with a staged scene or the false intruder narrative. Before his daughter's forensic interviews, he spoke with each child privately. Both children later described instructions from defendant concerning what they should say. telling them their statements could be the difference between life and death for him. He told them to deny that he had coached them and concealed the conversations from others. Thus, after taking their mother from them, Defendant attempted to use his grieving daughters to reinforce the story he had created to protect himself.
00:13:16
Speaker 2: Ouch.
00:13:17
Speaker 4: That's awful.
00:13:18
Speaker 2: So they were considering....
00:13:21
Speaker 3: Bringing those charges against him as well at trial. And in order to do so, they would have had to have his two daughters testify.
00:13:29
Speaker 2: And so that was the reason.
00:13:31
Speaker 3: We never really understood why those two little girls' names were on the potential witness list for the prosecution.
00:13:38
Speaker 2: Now it makes a lot.
00:13:39
Speaker 3: It's confirmed now why they would.
00:13:40
Speaker 2: Have taken the stand.
00:13:42
Speaker 4: Glad they dropped those charges.
00:13:44
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
00:13:44
Speaker 1: And those girls didn't have to be in there. I've seen from no one that the girls have been spotted or in the.
00:13:50
Speaker 3: No.
00:13:50
Speaker 1: There was some talk. I don't know if they have written letters. We'll find that out shortly. Rose, but the rest of the dad's letter, I forgot. I say we were going to get to the rest of it.
00:13:59
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
00:14:00
Speaker 4: What are you telling me?
00:14:01
Speaker 3: Well, and we'll be we'll be coming back in with all the latest details. But as we are going to jump back in and watch the proceedings, we understand Caleb Flynn is going to address the courtroom.
00:14:12
Speaker 2: We saw him walk in with a piece of paper. And you noticed it right off the bat. You said he's got notes.
00:14:16
Speaker 3: And so we will hear the court is hearing directly from Caleb Flynn during the sentencing hearing as well. So this will certainly be full of some new information. And we will hop back on as soon as we have all.
00:14:28
Speaker 2: The details for you.
00:14:29
Speaker 5: We always appreciate you listening to us, everyone.
00:14:31
Speaker 3: I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes.
00:14:34
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Monday, October the 5th, and happening right now, the sentencing for Caleb Flynn in the so-called American Idol murder trial. He's convicted now of killing his wife, but there's still some question of whether or not he will spend the rest of his life in prison. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. And yes, Robes, we should say we just watched the beginning of this packed house, but there is We still have some questions, and they did answer at least one question early on.
00:00:36
Speaker 2: That's right.
00:00:37
Speaker 3: So the charges that Caleb Flynn was convicted of, there are actually a total of nine felonies a jury found him guilty of in less than three hours, by the way. But they announced today, for sentencing purposes, they're going to merge counts one through six. So those are aggravated murder, three separate counts of murder, felonious assault, two counts of that.
00:01:00
Speaker 2: So they're all going to be wrapped into one.
00:01:03
Speaker 3: And the judge does have a pretty decent size. He's able to be lenient based on how much.
00:01:13
Speaker 2: Time he wants him to serve before he'll be eligible for parole.
00:01:18
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:01:18
Speaker 1: And what is the judge going to do here, Robes? It makes sense what the judge decided to do with one through six. It is fascinating. There are He's been convicted of four counts of murder. Obviously, he only killed one person. It's interesting that Ohio law allows prosecutors to put forth a murder charge with different theories.
00:01:40
Speaker 4: Under this murder charge, you did this. Under this murder charge.
00:01:42
Speaker 1: So even if the jury decided they don't believe this theory or that theory, they still had two other theories to consider.
00:01:48
Speaker 2: And they found him guilty of all of them, right?
00:01:50
Speaker 4: Every single one.
00:01:51
Speaker 3: The first one, the most serious charge, he was found guilty of aggravated murder, and that requires premeditation. That requires basically a life sentence sentence. plus a three-year firearm specification. So the judge can decide life, but with however long until parole.
00:02:11
Speaker 4: So do I have right?
00:02:12
Speaker 1: That's the only question we have left today, is whether or not it's going to be eligible for parole or not.
00:02:18
Speaker 3: Correct, because the other murder counts he was found guilty of basically purposeful intent but no premeditation, purposeful killing during a felonious assault, and same with the third count as well. So all of those are 15 years to life. So he just has an option.
00:02:34
Speaker 2: He can say life.
00:02:36
Speaker 3: Without the possibility of parole, he could say life with, you know, however long.
00:02:42
Speaker 2: With the possibility of parole.
00:02:43
Speaker 3: And that will determine a lot of factors as to how long he would actually serve before he could be up for a parole board.
00:02:49
Speaker 1: But all we have heard during this trial, and we listened to most of the testimony, given, yes, the text messages, given the venom, the hatred, the deception, given the The audacity of killing this woman in her sleep while the kids are in the next room and then trying to get away with it. It's hard to believe that the judge is going to leave a lot of room for the possibility of him getting out of prison.
00:03:27
Speaker 2: That would be hard to believe indeed.
00:03:29
Speaker 3: And yes, because also, think about it from this perspective, he also isn't sitting there admitting it.
00:03:37
Speaker 5: He is denying it. He is maintaining his innocence.
00:03:39
Speaker 3: That is true. And also people might say, well, that's your right and that's his opportunity to appeal and potentially get a new trial. But it still actually does go a long way when it comes to sentencing. If you admit to the crime... you're more likely, obviously, to get some sort of leniency when it comes to sentencing.
00:03:56
Speaker 2: You're not guaranteed it, but you have a better shot at it.
00:03:59
Speaker 3: Now, add to the fact that he's still facing sentencing for counts seven, eight, and nine, and that's tampering with evidence.
00:04:06
Speaker 2: And that is not a.
00:04:09
Speaker 3: Good secondary charge to be dealing with, because now, yes, as you pointed out, not only is he denying it, but he's been found guilty of trying to fool investigators into thinking someone else did it.
00:04:21
Speaker 1: He's been convicted of covering up a crime that he's been convicted of.
00:04:25
Speaker 2: Correct.
00:04:26
Speaker 4: Robes, he's, I just can't imagine.
00:04:30
Speaker 1: It was just, it was baffling to even think that we're, he has to do a minimum to be.
00:04:36
Speaker 4: Up for parole. How old is he? He's 40.
00:04:40
Speaker 2: He's 40 years old. Exactly.
00:04:41
Speaker 1: Robes, this is going to be fascinating to hear. So they started, they have started the hearing. We have heard from Caleb Flynn's family already, wrote in these letters that his mom and dad have given to the judge.
00:04:56
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the best.
00:04:58
Speaker 1: I mean, what argument do you make as a parent at this point?
00:05:01
Speaker 3: These letters are carefully worded, and we don't know if they're actually going to get up in front of the court and speak, and maybe perhaps they won't because they've pre-submitted their letters. Maybe that would be or would feel cruel to the victim's family, to Ashley Flynn's family.
00:05:17
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, so that's unclear.
00:05:20
Speaker 3: But we do have their letters that they pre-released that they had already given to the judge to consider when considering Caleb's sentencing.
00:05:37
Speaker 1: And I couldn't see it, but to the parents, whether or not they'd speak, WLWT, local affiliate, is reporting that the parents of Caleb Flint are in the courtroom.
00:05:46
Speaker 3: Yes, they're in the courtroom, and we know Ashley's mother, father, sister, and brother-in-law are all in the courtroom as well. They were there, I believe, every single day of trial. All of those family members had been there. So they're back, and we can only assume that it's likely that all of them will stand up and give their statements for the judge to consider.
00:06:07
Speaker 4: Let's start here with the mom. We have both of them here. Have you read through both open roads?
00:06:12
Speaker 2: I have. I have.
00:06:13
Speaker 3: So this is a letter from Caleb Flynn's mom to the judge. She says, my name is Kim Flynn and I am Caleb Flynn's mom who is currently facing you for sentencing. I am writing to you today to respectfully request your mercy in his case. I understand that this is a serious matter and it has caused much pain for.
00:06:32
Speaker 2: All who are involved.
00:06:34
Speaker 3: As a mother, it deeply saddens me and breaks my heart to see my son in this situation.
00:06:39
Speaker 2: However, if you would allow me to speak.
00:06:41
Speaker 3: To you concerning the 38 years before the recent choices he's made. Caleb has always been close to God and his family. Growing up in church as a pastor's kid, he was always willing to serve the people and the Lord. He was a leader in every area of his life and looked up to by his peers from high school, college, and ministry settings. Always showing responsibility, hard work, and diligence, his accomplishments and awards would be too numerous to mention. He was never anything but respectful, polite, and kind. Even the COs in the Miami County Jail made mention to his dad and I about Caleb's character. He's even made a difference to the inmates in his pod by his example and attitude. I am not writing to excuse anything, and I know nothing will justify what has happened, but I know he has repented to his Lord and is remorseful for his decisions. Therefore, I appreciate you taking the time to read my letter and consider my request Thank you for your mercy and compassion in this matter. I don't know what a standard letter is from a mother to a judge to show her son mercy, but she showed none to Ashley Flynn in that letter.
00:07:51
Speaker 2: That stood out to me.
00:07:55
Speaker 1: Well, I guess what stood out, Robes, to you is going to match up with what stood out to me, which is how to carefully say he's sorry for his actions, but not for killing Ashley. anyone he's sorry for decisions he's made he's remorseful for decisions he's made but nowhere in there and i guess this is a legal thing i'm sure she's doing but it goes with what you're saying you can't show that she was this is the best she could hope for and begging for mercy what are you supposed to say here she she heard the song baby Everybody heard that song.
00:08:34
Speaker 3: Is she apologizing for his decision to have an affair? Because both of his parents are standing by him and say they believe him when he says he didn't kill his wife. And so, yes, they can't, I understand, in any way seem as though they're acknowledging he killed Ashley. I still think just saying something about the loss of Ashley and the grief of what their granddaughters are going through, just some nod to the pain of the other side It just seemed really vacant and void of that in a way that I think she could have found a moment to bring Ashley into it without necessarily damning her son.
00:09:15
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's try the dad's letter now. Dear Judge Pratt, this is Mike Flynn, Caleb's father. It's very nice to make your acquaintance. I'm respectfully writing to ask if you would consider my thoughts and perspective about my son before issuing sentence. It seems surreal to even pen these words to you, seeing that Caleb has never even seen the inside of a courtroom until now. By writing, I am in no way questioning or challenging the court's ruling, nor am I minimizing the seriousness of this matter or the far-reaching suffering and effects this tragedy has imposed on both sides of the family. Our pain is unimaginable. I am also not excusing Caleb's actions over the last two years, but they are not consistent with who caleb has always been that thing right he's saying actions what actions are we talking about he's talking about the affair no neither parent addresses that thing and that makes sense he is still claiming he's innocent and going to appeal the conviction that's.
00:10:15
Speaker 3: Why they have to word it that way but i still think that would sting so much just to hear Ashley Flynn's family, to hear that from Caleb Flynn's family as they beg a judge for mercy, not to even mention Ashley's name. I just feel like that is tough and would be hard to live through.
00:10:35
Speaker 4: All right. Well, stay with us.
00:10:37
Speaker 1: We'll let you hear the rest of Caleb Flynn's dad's letter. Also, we found out some new information about From the prosecutors, they are also chiming in about what they want the sentence to be, and they included one new detail that is pretty despicable.
00:10:55
Speaker 4: Stay here.
00:11:05
Speaker 1: All right, we continue here on Amy and TJ. The Caleb Flynn sentencing continues. As we speak, we're going to give you a full rundown of what happened. A little later, we want to hop on and give you an idea of what is going to be happening. And Robes, we're hearing from both sides. It's not not both sides, both parents of Caleb Flynn pleading as best they can with.
00:11:28
Speaker 4: The judge for mercy for their son. I don't know what mercy looks like. Maybe just.
00:11:32
Speaker 2: The possibility of parole.
00:11:34
Speaker 4: That's what mercy looks like right now.
00:11:35
Speaker 5: It's probably the best they can hope for at this point.
00:11:38
Speaker 3: But we're going to get to hear from Ashley's side of the family as well with their victim impact statements.
00:11:44
Speaker 2: But beforehand, we did get.
00:11:45
Speaker 5: The prosecutor's sentencing memo.
00:11:49
Speaker 2: And this is new.
00:11:50
Speaker 3: This is something we had not heard or we did not hear in trial that we're now we understood they dropped charges initially when they went to trial. when they decided not to bring Caleb Flynn and Ashley Flynn's daughters on the stand. And there was, it was, it was believed basically at that point that if they had testified, they would have testified to these charges that had been dropped, intimidating a potential witness.
00:12:18
Speaker 1: Robes, this is, they alluded to it, suggested that we knew this was the possibility, the walk he took with the kids and, Coming back and grandma said they look scared. I mean, this was the suggestion, but they have put it in the memo here and laid it out in touch away rows. This is pretty damning stuff. They say the defendant's effort to escape responsibility did not end with a staged scene or the false intruder narrative. Before his daughter's forensic interviews, he spoke with each child privately. Both children later described instructions from defendant concerning what they should say. telling them their statements could be the difference between life and death for him. He told them to deny that he had coached them and concealed the conversations from others. Thus, after taking their mother from them, Defendant attempted to use his grieving daughters to reinforce the story he had created to protect himself.
00:13:16
Speaker 2: Ouch.
00:13:17
Speaker 4: That's awful.
00:13:18
Speaker 2: So they were considering....
00:13:21
Speaker 3: Bringing those charges against him as well at trial. And in order to do so, they would have had to have his two daughters testify.
00:13:29
Speaker 2: And so that was the reason.
00:13:31
Speaker 3: We never really understood why those two little girls' names were on the potential witness list for the prosecution.
00:13:38
Speaker 2: Now it makes a lot.
00:13:39
Speaker 3: It's confirmed now why they would.
00:13:40
Speaker 2: Have taken the stand.
00:13:42
Speaker 4: Glad they dropped those charges.
00:13:44
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: And those girls didn't have to be in there. I've seen from no one that the girls have been spotted or in the.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: There was some talk. I don't know if they have written letters. We'll find that out shortly. Rose, but the rest of the dad's letter, I forgot. I say we were going to get to the rest of it.
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Speaker 2: Go ahead.
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Speaker 4: What are you telling me?
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Speaker 3: Well, and we'll be we'll be coming back in with all the latest details. But as we are going to jump back in and watch the proceedings, we understand Caleb Flynn is going to address the courtroom.
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Speaker 2: We saw him walk in with a piece of paper. And you noticed it right off the bat. You said he's got notes.
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Speaker 3: And so we will hear the court is hearing directly from Caleb Flynn during the sentencing hearing as well. So this will certainly be full of some new information. And we will hop back on as soon as we have all.
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Speaker 2: The details for you.
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Speaker 5: We always appreciate you listening to us, everyone.
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Speaker 3: I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon.