March 13, 2026

New This Morning: “Act of Terrorism;” Chilling Details on Attackers in Virginia and Michigan

New This Morning: “Act of Terrorism;” Chilling Details on Attackers in Virginia and Michigan


We are getting more details about who the suspects were and why they attacked a Michigan synagogue and a Virginia university campus. One was a convicted ISIS sympathizer, recently released from prison who tried to make the courts believe he felt deeply regretful for his allegiance to the terror organization. The other was a naturalized U.S. citizen from Lebanon who authorities believe had recently lost family members to Israeli missile strikes in his home country.

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00:00:11
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Friday, March thirteenth, and one is being called an act of terrorism, the other being investigated as a targeted act of violence. Either way, too violent attacks in the United States yesterday really sent people reeling and now even in more concern, possibly now that details are starting to emerge about the alleged attackers. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and tj Old. Dominion and a synagogue in Michigan, Virginia and Michigan, two different states, two different places, but the same kind of terror, you could argue, no matter what you want to call it. Officially, Robes, the country was on edge yesterday.

00:00:56
Speaker 2: And understandably so, and I would say on edge today and the day that follow while we are at war with Iran. This is some scary stuff. And the details as we start to read about these two suspects, it is chilling. It's deeply concerning when you see where potentially their heads and hearts were behind these attacks.

00:01:18
Speaker 3: That's the scary part, the why and the what's next.

00:01:22
Speaker 1: And you say that, Robes, the why at any point would scare the hell out of us, right as Americans hearing you're under attack for whatever reason, but robes put with the backdrop now of the war, you have to wonder is more of this coming.

00:01:38
Speaker 2: Absolutely, this was the fear from the beginning. It wasn't necessarily that Iran had the capability. And even though we heard us scary yesterday about California to actually send missiles to this country or attack the homeland, but they certainly can send folks who are already here, who are from other parts of the world, who may have ideologies that are hidden to many of their neighbors and coworkers and friends and even maybe partners in plain sight, but deep down they have been.

00:02:09
Speaker 3: Activated, so to speak.

00:02:10
Speaker 2: And we hear about activating underground terror celles or even individuals who have personal reasons.

00:02:18
Speaker 3: Why they wanted to attack US citizens. And that is what we saw yesterday, Like.

00:02:22
Speaker 1: We saw some just being inspired. They don't have to be in contact in any way officially trying to do anything, just decide to go out on their own. So we have seen several of these now under investigation. What was it? Was it the guy with the the Iraq excuse me, the Iran where that was an awesome that was an Austin I'm thinking about now Arty of Allah. Yes that guy. You can see that image is kind of burned in your mind. But folks, let's tell you what happened Old Dominion and in Michigan yesterday. So on the campus of Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia yesterday they were in fact in lockdown for a while after reports of a shooting. Other reports we got someone walked into an academic building on campus. I started shooting, shot and killed one person I believe in an instructor. Two others were injured before that person was subdued by ROTC members there at Old Dominion and was killed. That was incident one. The other, of course, will describe for you was the one, of course robes that was at the synagogue attack. And this one is the one that has a lot of questions still attached it.

00:03:25
Speaker 2: Yes, so the attacker actually drove through and into the synagogue where many school children were in classrooms. But he actually was able to get his vehicle into the hallway and drive into the building. When incredibly brave security officials came at him.

00:03:44
Speaker 3: There was a shootout, so to speak, and there.

00:03:46
Speaker 2: Were now we know, fireworks in that vehicle, incendiaria devices, and eventually that vehicle caught on fire, but he injured the security guard who he actually struck him.

00:03:57
Speaker 3: He was knocked unconscious. He's going to be okay.

00:04:00
Speaker 2: But if it weren't for the brave actions of those security guards and truly active shooter scenarios and all of these training programs that they go through came all to fruition yesterday where they were able to put into action what they learned in training and were able to subdue and stop this man. He had a rifle, he intended harm, So that.

00:04:20
Speaker 1: Was the one. You might have seen some of those images, a lot of smoke coming out of that building. They were trying to figure out exactly what was in that car, so this possibly appeared to be a planned, much longer, larger attack and possibly explosives in that vehicle. They do they haven't confirmed yet exactly how this person died. Who was the suspect that they do have a name for, because quite frankly, he was burnt up in there too. Can't put it a better way than that. But let's go back to Old Dominion. Let's start with both of these suspects who they have publicly named. Let's start with the one at Old Dominion who has a very detailed and documented history in this country over the past decade. The name is Muhammed Baylor Jalla. Now he is thirty six years old in Robes. We hear this. This is someone who spent time with the US military.

00:05:08
Speaker 2: This is so deeply concerning. Wait until you hear these details. Yes, he served in the Virginia National Guard from two thousand and nine to twenty fifteen. For six years. He was a combat engineer. He was honorably discharged. But after he was honorably discharged in twenty sixteen, he was arrested on a terrorism charge.

00:05:28
Speaker 1: Believe that was just a year later, Yes.

00:05:30
Speaker 3: One year later.

00:05:32
Speaker 2: He pleaded guilty because he was absolutely trying.

00:05:37
Speaker 3: To kill US citizens.

00:05:41
Speaker 2: He made it very clear in his communications with what ended up being an undercover agent who was supposed to be securing weapons for him, and that's how he was arrested. But he was he pleaded guilty. He was sentenced to eleven years, but he only served seven or eight of them and he was released in twenty twenty four, So.

00:06:02
Speaker 1: He didn't get far in his planning, his plotting. Yes, he was dealing mostly with undercover FBI agents and employees. Thinking he was trying to do. He was setting up something much larger. But he tried to purchase they say, in AK forty seven from someone. That didn't work. The person didn't want to sell it to him, so he went to a gun store then purchased an AR fifteen style assault rifle, and then he was picked up and arrested the next day. Now things get interesting. After he goes through his process and he pleads guilty, he does go to a sentencing hearing, and they are pretty We've seen either a long detailed reports from the prosecutors and from the defense about this person, and they say, hey, should get this much time because he's a bad dude, and the other side says, no, you shouldn't get that much time because he's really a sweet boy. So that's what this memo was. But we have his own words from his sentencing hearing and some of the things robes that he said to the judge at the time, You go, holy hell, he will just full of it. So you're telling me he was he was American enough to join the military, got radicalized in some way to want to attack the military, then came back and said, ooh, I'm sorry for that. I really do love my country. And now he's back on the other side. If what he did at Old Dominu is true. This reading through his own words from his sentencing is it's wild, you know, I think.

00:07:21
Speaker 2: Just because we have been so focused this past year, even covering court cases, criminal cases, and you hear defendants plead for mercy, You hear defendants plead their innocence, and you want to believe them right as humans to humans, you want to believe people are telling you the truth. And so to hear his own words and then to recognize what police say he now did because he wanted, according to his initial charges, to murder US military personnel, and that is exactly what he did yesterday.

00:07:49
Speaker 1: His comm instant age, Well, sure, this is.

00:07:52
Speaker 2: So chilling now that we know that, yes, he has murdered.

00:07:57
Speaker 3: He finished his goal.

00:07:59
Speaker 2: He finished what he set out to do, which was to kill US military personnel.

00:08:03
Speaker 3: But here is what he said. That's sentencing.

00:08:07
Speaker 2: I want to say, I've made a lot of mistakes in my life, but this mistake of giving any support to the violent and extreme organization ISIS has been the most devastating one I have ever decided to make in my life. I definitely renounce and denounce every action that they have taken and anything that they have done. I do not want to be associated and I am deeply, deeply, deeply sorry to this court. I'm sorry to the American military. I'm sorry to the people of the United States. I'm very very sorry for what I have done. I did not intend to cause harm to anyone.

00:08:43
Speaker 1: Now, this is a guy who at this time, this was ten let me go back here, do the math right ten years ago ish, Yes, that he was doing this, but this was at a time when he was saying whatever he needed to say to try to limit his prison sentence. Now you can read these words on paper. Didn't see him in court at the time. Was he sincere based on CDIO what happened yesterday?

00:09:08
Speaker 2: No?

00:09:08
Speaker 1: Was he sincere at the time? I do not know.

00:09:10
Speaker 3: This is chilling. This is chilling to hear him go on and say.

00:09:14
Speaker 2: I want to say, every time I see any atrocities that isis commits, I am disgusted by it because I know this is not what I want to be a part of. And most of all, I want to say, my proudest moments of my life was serving and being a member of the Army National Guard as a combat engineer with the best unit here in Virginia. And the men that I served with, they have shown their true their character, and I am deeply, deeply, deeply ashamed, and I am sorry to the men and women of this country that serve and protect us.

00:09:48
Speaker 1: He goes on to kind of make a I hate to call an excuse, but gives logic or reasoning for why he was where he was, and he says, I was going through deep emotional pain and then left me lost and purposeless. And I just want you to know that that could possibly be true. It's just rogues. We talk about how, I don't know, somebody didn't slip through the cracks. He was actually arrested and went to prison, and he stayed here. What do you do in a situation like this where I mean he this is pretty recently he got out. This was twenty twenty four, so, I mean, rose he was just waiting. I don't know what you do with something like this, but it seems kind of incredible that he told us what he was going to do and waited us out.

00:10:31
Speaker 3: That's exactly what he did.

00:10:33
Speaker 2: He faked us out and then waited us out so he disavowed any allegiance to isis that he was disgusted that he even had those thoughts. Then he sat there for what eight years in prison, and when he got out pretty quickly, I mean, within less than two years, he's now charged with murder or no, he's not charged with murder.

00:10:55
Speaker 3: He excuse me.

00:10:56
Speaker 1: He is dead.

00:10:57
Speaker 3: He is dead.

00:10:58
Speaker 1: Where they're investigating this as a possible act of terror, of course, and something like this, they will always look to see if he was in communication with anybody else and who else he might have been talked to. Does he have friends, I hate to use that word, a part of a cell of some kind. But they are continuing to look into this. They are also, of course, right now looking into the person responsible for the attack at the synagogue. But stay with us, some new details are emerging, and one local official is making a direct connection between what happened at the synagogue and the war with the Ron. Stay here, continuing here on Amy and TJ. On this Friday, March the thirteenth, two acts of terror, one being investigated as such, the other right now they're calling an act of targeted violence at the synagogue Gropes in Michigan, a Kia west Bloom. I have that right just outside of Detroit. We're starting to get not as much of a picture emerging, but we're starting to get details about the person involved in that attack as well and Rhodes. It's very limited at least right now, how much is known and even how much can be done as a part of the investigation, because they took so long to clear that scene yesterday.

00:12:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot of concern about any other potential explosions with the vehicle that I'm in, Mohammed Gazzali was driving, and in fact his charred remains. Everything was so burnt that it's been difficult even forensically to take a look at that scene and figure out how this all happened. Here's what we know about the suspect. I'm in, Mohammed Ghazali. He was born in Lebanon, and he came here into the United States in a ninety day fiance fashion. He had a fiance visa in two thy eleven. He did marry that woman and officially became a citizen in two thy sixteen, when President Trump was president correct.

00:13:04
Speaker 1: Six so I don't know why. Yes, Trump was just elected in twenty sixteen, took office in twenty seventeen. But I saw some places wanted to point out when he first entered it was when Obama was president. It's just amazing how we did. I got hate.

00:13:20
Speaker 2: We want to point the finger at the person who was president when someone entered the country, as if, as.

00:13:26
Speaker 1: If it's the thing I hate about they do with judges now every time a judge makes a decision, he was appointed by a democratic it doesn't. Yes, so they some places pointed that out, But yes, that was But this was a US citizen, a naturalized US citizen who had been a part of some of the reports that are coming out, who had been a part of the community update the Lebanese community, which is big community community.

00:13:48
Speaker 2: That big community in Dearborn Heights, and the mayor of Dearborn Heights. Actually this is according to the Detroit News correct and this is uh, this is a frightening, frightening bit of information that could lend some insight into what happened yesterday.

00:14:05
Speaker 1: Well, it's terrifying to think something directly happening at war set someone off here. And according to this mayor, the mayor has reported this directly to the Detroit News there that in fact, Gazali's family was killed during this war in Lebanon during air strikes. As the Detroit News put it, the mayor says, quote earlier this month, he lost several members of his own family, including his niece and nephew, in an Israeli attack on their home in Lebanon. Now robes that is going to have to certainly be confirmed and looked into. But just that is the terrifying thing. This war is underway and it's setting some people off that are already in your neighborhood.

00:14:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, and think about that.

00:14:58
Speaker 2: So we have lost seven service members overseas in Iran. But if you look at what authorities are potentially linking deaths that authorities are linking to this war in Iran, You've got the situation that happened in Austin that you pointed out, where you had that suspect wearing property of Allah and an Iranian flag. Now you have this very specific connection to the Israeli attack on Lebanon Hesbola. But he lost members of his own family, and you now have potentially this ISIS. I don't even know what to say if he's connected to ISIS or if he's just someone.

00:15:33
Speaker 3: Who believes in the.

00:15:35
Speaker 2: Operations and message of isis directly linked now to this shooting in Virginia. This is frightening, frightening stuff because we don't know how many other people might be harboring these feelings, might be harboring these resentments, might be personally impacted and have family members who have been victims of this war. We just don't know, and that's the scary part.

00:15:56
Speaker 1: Well. People, As always top right corner of your Apple podcast app where you see our show page, there's a little button there that says follow click that you can subscribe and always get our updates coming directly to you. And there just have been so many breaking news updates as of late. We'll stay on top of it all. We always appreciate you spending some time here with us. For my dear Amy Robot, I am TJ. Holmes. We will talk to you