Feb. 9, 2026
NEW Savannah Guthrie Plea: “We are at an hour of desperation. We need your help”
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RSS Feed Another video with a very different tone. Savannah Guthrie just put out another video speaking directly to the public, asking for help. There was no reference to a kidnapper or a ransom note, as the Guthrie family continues to race against time to find their missing 84 year old mom, who police say was take against her will 9 days ago.
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00:00:09
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Monday, February ninth. We are hopping on here because Savannah Guthrie has put out a new video making another desperate plea, but this time not potential kidnappers, but to the public. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. We have been desperate, everybody for information, official information. We didn't get a whole lot more from the video, but in tone and context we might have learned a lot.
00:00:37
Speaker 2: Yes, I think with this latest video from Savannah you can read between the lines, and certainly the differences between the video the siblings put out over the weekend versus today a complete one point eighty. So this weekend we heard from Savannah was doing the talking, but she was flamed by her brother and her sister, and she was speaking directly to a kidnapper, and she was saying, we heard you, we understand, we will pay all of this right. So everyone jumped to those conclusions that there must have been some communication that happened, But today completely and totally overturns or upends that theory.
00:01:23
Speaker 1: Now there was, at least, we should note Robes, one ransom note that was into a TV station that did have a Monday deadline attached. Don't know if she was putting this out, but it didn't sound like, at least in this video Robes that she is speaking to kidnapper. She is now speaking to the public. She used the word desperation, but Robes, even if she hadn't used it, we would have this sounded like she is they are almost defeated and just what do we do? She sounded desperate.
00:01:51
Speaker 3: It's gutting to hear her.
00:01:53
Speaker 2: And look, we've watched her be understandably emotional and urgent and deliberate, and actually this the video before this one, she actually.
00:02:04
Speaker 3: Seemed like she had a purpose.
00:02:06
Speaker 2: And so there was almost like a newfound strength in feeling like we will pay. We have a way out, you know, we will, We will find our way through this, we will get our mom back. There was a I felt like over the weekend she had hope. This last video sounded like the opposite. She sounded, yes, desperate, she said they were desperate, but there was almost a feeling of being defeated.
00:02:33
Speaker 1: It also didn't sound like she's in communication or feels she is in communication with a true kidnapper and is actually negotiating. It doesn't sound that way from this video, and we're certainly gonna we're gonna play the relevant part. It's about a minute and forty seconds long, but the we're only gonna play you the last bit of it here. But it for me, Robes, it didn't sound like it sounded the previous one, Like you said, Okay, they feel like they're talking to somebody, everybody what happened.
00:03:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody wants a plan, a way out, a way forward. Tell me what I need to do and I will do it. And that's where they were, And they sounded like, okay, cool, we've we've somehow been in communication with this person, even if it might have been a bizarre way of communicating through a local TV affiliate. But okay, that has happened before. We've seen it happen before. So it did seem hopeful. This one sounded like, we actually don't know what to do. We don't know where we are, we don't know where she is. Can anyone and she.
00:03:34
Speaker 3: You'll hear it. She even is appealing to anyone outside of the Tucson area. Oh yeah, she's like anyone.
00:03:41
Speaker 2: In the country who sees or knows of anything. Please, we'll take it. We'll take any tip.
00:03:48
Speaker 1: Okay, So before we play this last half of it. The first part was essentially a thank you right to everybody, saying law enforcement is doing everything they can think we are spread at this time and asking for the public's help, and then she got into I guess robes. The last half of it is where I guess you're picking up on some clues and what she's saying and even how she's sang it. So here is Savannah Guthrie video put out a just a short time ago. This is the second half of that video. Here is what she says to the public.
00:04:22
Speaker 4: We believe our mom is still out there. We need your help. Law enforcement is working tirelessly around the clock trying to bring her home, trying to find her. She was taken and we don't know where, and we need your help. So I'm coming on just to ask you, not just for your prayers, but no matter where you are, even if you're far from Tucson, if you see anything, you hear anything, if there's anything at all that seems strange to you that you report to law enforcement. We are at an hour of desperation.
00:05:12
Speaker 1: And we need your out robes. I thought that was telling the idea that even if you're far away from Tucson suggests we don't know anything like we are nowhere, and I cannot believe that's the case here in the second week. How many days are we in a week? In two days? Three days at.
00:05:34
Speaker 2: Her disappearance, Yeah, this is I believe if she was last seen on Saturday at nine forty five pm.
00:05:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're on day nine. Correct.
00:05:46
Speaker 2: And obviously, with even her medical history and the fact that she needed medication.
00:05:53
Speaker 3: To survive and also to not be in pain, it just.
00:05:56
Speaker 2: Seems surreal that she would still be somewhere with someone who was somehow not negotiating with the Guthries after they've put out Now, how many.
00:06:06
Speaker 3: Videos has it been now, one, two, three, four?
00:06:11
Speaker 2: This is the fourth video, and this is I believe the first one significantly, since we heard of a ransom note where she or the siblings did not address a potential kidnapper. Never in this video did we hear her talk to or talk about a kidnapper. And that is of note because the last two have been solely in an effort to connect with or contact this potential kidnapper.
00:06:38
Speaker 1: The brother's last one was that we need we need to know that you have her proof of life, so it doesn't seem like they have gotten that anywhere. It doesn't seem like Ropes. They have gone from thinking they're communicating with a kidnapper and via social media to now this one. They're not addressing any potential kidnapper, and there are plenty of people that don't think there's a kidnapper at all. Ropes. This is we were talking about this earlier at lunch. This is the wildest mystery crime of a lifetime for a lot of reasons. But Robes, well, this makes no sense.
00:07:14
Speaker 2: It makes no sense because some of the other crimes that you might think would fit into a category like this John Man a Ramsey where you're so confused.
00:07:22
Speaker 3: There was a ransom note.
00:07:24
Speaker 2: They did obviously find her body very quickly, but no one still knows to this day who killed her, why she died. This mystery of the not knowing, and this falls right now into that category where sure you can point the finger at family, and that has certainly been suggested in some media circles, but police have staunchly said there are no suspects, there are no persons of interest, there is no vehicle of interest.
00:07:49
Speaker 3: We've heard all.
00:07:51
Speaker 2: I mean, actually NBC News, which I said I felt more comfortable relying upon because Savannah obviously works for them, and they would be taking extra precautions to make sure they didn't over report something that wasn't verified.
00:08:03
Speaker 3: But they were the ones to say that.
00:08:05
Speaker 2: A circle k owner or someone who was working there verified the police had a vehicle of interest that they supplied.
00:08:13
Speaker 3: The surveillance video.
00:08:14
Speaker 2: But then you've got the police coming out and refuting it, saying, we don't have a vehicle of interest.
00:08:19
Speaker 1: There's nothing, There is nothing at this point, and rugs. We have gone through and you and I we don't want to do all the speculating in public, but in private, everybody is.
00:08:33
Speaker 3: Everybody is they trying to come up with a scenario.
00:08:35
Speaker 1: We spent time in Santa Clara and the Bay Area for the Super Bowl. Everyone this was the thing. Hi, Hey, how you guys doing great? Ooh what do you think is going on with Savannah Guthrie's bomb.
00:08:47
Speaker 2: Every single person, it did not matter age, it did not matter matter what they.
00:08:53
Speaker 3: Did for a living, what they looked like.
00:08:55
Speaker 2: Every single person from all walks of life wanted to talk about this case.
00:09:01
Speaker 1: And you know what, when they asked, we gave them our opinion. We'll give it to you when we come back. Stay here, and all right, we continue here on Amy and TJ. Savannah Guthri putting out another desperate plea, this time not to kidnappers potential kidnappers, but this time to the public, saying, no matter where you are Tucson, near or far, please if you see anything, keep an eye out in report. She's a there an hour of desperation right now, Robes, I look these investigators. I know folks have been critical of the sheriff out there and how he's handled himself and some of the press briefings. Generally speaking, I think cops know what they're doing. Generally speaking, I think investigators know what they're doing, and most of them want to do a good job. So it's hard to believe that anyone who's criticizing or haven't done this, and haven't they figured out that. I have to believe, Robes that if all of the attention on this case and all the federal resources now on it, if they still got nothing, my mind is even more boggled. How is it possible, Robes, we got nothing on this lady exactly?
00:10:15
Speaker 2: And to your point, This isn't just some Pima County Sheriff's department fumbling a major story because they aren't ready for prime time. From the very beginning, when it was immediately known that this was Savannah Guthrie's mom, there was national attention and national resources available almost immediately.
00:10:36
Speaker 3: So this isn't a case of.
00:10:38
Speaker 2: Cops bungling something or not doing their job because they weren't prepared. Every single possible resource available to anyone in this country has been given and sent to this investigation, and we are still where we are. That definitely says something. And I actually want to know what you think, babe, because the last time, obviously we saw the civil put something out this weekend, but before that, there was a message from Savannah's brother Cameron that coincided directly with the deadline there. As you pointed out before the break, there is a or was another deadline today by five pm, reportedly demanding six million dollars. Do you think that that could be tied with this latest video?
00:11:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it happened the last time, you have to wonder why, And we noted in the video it didn't seem like it was that well prepared. It didn't wry, so she just hopped on because I got to get something out. It felt that way, and so yes, that would make sense. I the speculation part is very, very difficult. But this is not They keep saying, we believe she was taken. Okay, let's go with that. Where is the evidence and there's gotta be evidence that that woman was taken from there physically, right, so we have to know that. Is it fair to say? Is that the most certain thing we have that she was taking? Forget the ransom part, but what she'd taken against her will? She had to be she didn't leave home, right.
00:12:05
Speaker 2: Yes, because she left her phone, she left her wallet, she left her vehicle. No reasonable person would leave those things in the middle of the night unless they were taken against their will.
00:12:16
Speaker 1: Okay, so she was taken, So let's go with percentages, robes. Who's abducting eighty four year old women with medical issues? Nobody? Those chances are really low possible. This could be a flucish case, right, But if you go with the chances and the odds, it's just not happening. So what's the next thing? You go to? Somebody she knows, somebody close to her, somebody in the family. No authorities have to be looking at that. And if they haven't gotten to some place right now that they could make any kind of a move, that lends leads me to believe that. I guess maybe it wasn't that. Maybe it's not a fan member, maybe it's not somebody she knows, so this is actually a kidnapping.
00:13:05
Speaker 2: It's all incredibly puzzling anyone who watches crime shows of any kind, obviously we do, and I know a lot of you listening do as well. You know that the first people they are going to look at and question are the last people who saw this person alive, and that, of course is Savannah's sister Annie and her husband Tamaso or Tomaso.
00:13:26
Speaker 3: I still don't know how to say his.
00:13:27
Speaker 2: Name, but the point being is, obviously that's where a lot of the speculation has gone. We did see renewed searches inside Annie Guthrie's home that is absolutely verifiable and reportable. And then they went back recently and we're looking at Nancy's like exterior, and there was a manhole that they showed investigators going down and into, and of course that's all grim and horrific to imagine and to think about, and then to imagine if you're also a member of the Guthrie family and you're questioning one another. This has got to be gutting from the side out because you're wondering where your mom is and then you're seeing and realizing that the investigators are following up on leads that potentially your own family members could be potentially involved.
00:14:12
Speaker 3: That can't be.
00:14:13
Speaker 1: But that's mentioned on the outside. On the inside, it might be nothing.
00:14:16
Speaker 3: Maybe it's not.
00:14:17
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not even a dry and I'm not even discussed, not a thought at all, and it might not have be anything to it. Then somebody please tell me how you get this eighty four year old woman out of their undetected completely undetected.
00:14:34
Speaker 2: Well, it's a rural area, the cameras were taken, there was no subscription into recording any of the images, and the thought would be that whoever did what they did knew that, and the only people who knew that would be someone close to her. So look, just from a statistical standpoint, it makes sense. We understand how these things go. It is almost always someone who purports to love you. Those random acts of violence do happen, and you have to leave space for that and room for that. But they are exceptionally rare when it comes to these types of crimes.
00:15:09
Speaker 1: That's the thing. All of this is exceptionally rare. No matter what scenario you come up with, it's exceptionally rare. So just nothing makes sense. This story is captivating the country right now and it continues, and I can't believe we have as few answers as we do right now. Folks. We just want to hop on and give you that update today. The search goes on nine days. I think you said, yes, the search goes on, folks. Has always top right corner of your Apple podcast app where you see our show page. A little button there says follow. You can click that and make sure you always get our updates coming directly to you. But we will keep you posted on this one. For my dear Amy Robot, I'm TJ. Holmes. We will talk to y'all soon
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Monday, February ninth. We are hopping on here because Savannah Guthrie has put out a new video making another desperate plea, but this time not potential kidnappers, but to the public. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. We have been desperate, everybody for information, official information. We didn't get a whole lot more from the video, but in tone and context we might have learned a lot.
00:00:37
Speaker 2: Yes, I think with this latest video from Savannah you can read between the lines, and certainly the differences between the video the siblings put out over the weekend versus today a complete one point eighty. So this weekend we heard from Savannah was doing the talking, but she was flamed by her brother and her sister, and she was speaking directly to a kidnapper, and she was saying, we heard you, we understand, we will pay all of this right. So everyone jumped to those conclusions that there must have been some communication that happened, But today completely and totally overturns or upends that theory.
00:01:23
Speaker 1: Now there was, at least, we should note Robes, one ransom note that was into a TV station that did have a Monday deadline attached. Don't know if she was putting this out, but it didn't sound like, at least in this video Robes that she is speaking to kidnapper. She is now speaking to the public. She used the word desperation, but Robes, even if she hadn't used it, we would have this sounded like she is they are almost defeated and just what do we do? She sounded desperate.
00:01:51
Speaker 3: It's gutting to hear her.
00:01:53
Speaker 2: And look, we've watched her be understandably emotional and urgent and deliberate, and actually this the video before this one, she actually.
00:02:04
Speaker 3: Seemed like she had a purpose.
00:02:06
Speaker 2: And so there was almost like a newfound strength in feeling like we will pay. We have a way out, you know, we will, We will find our way through this, we will get our mom back. There was a I felt like over the weekend she had hope. This last video sounded like the opposite. She sounded, yes, desperate, she said they were desperate, but there was almost a feeling of being defeated.
00:02:33
Speaker 1: It also didn't sound like she's in communication or feels she is in communication with a true kidnapper and is actually negotiating. It doesn't sound that way from this video, and we're certainly gonna we're gonna play the relevant part. It's about a minute and forty seconds long, but the we're only gonna play you the last bit of it here. But it for me, Robes, it didn't sound like it sounded the previous one, Like you said, Okay, they feel like they're talking to somebody, everybody what happened.
00:03:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody wants a plan, a way out, a way forward. Tell me what I need to do and I will do it. And that's where they were, And they sounded like, okay, cool, we've we've somehow been in communication with this person, even if it might have been a bizarre way of communicating through a local TV affiliate. But okay, that has happened before. We've seen it happen before. So it did seem hopeful. This one sounded like, we actually don't know what to do. We don't know where we are, we don't know where she is. Can anyone and she.
00:03:34
Speaker 3: You'll hear it. She even is appealing to anyone outside of the Tucson area. Oh yeah, she's like anyone.
00:03:41
Speaker 2: In the country who sees or knows of anything. Please, we'll take it. We'll take any tip.
00:03:48
Speaker 1: Okay, So before we play this last half of it. The first part was essentially a thank you right to everybody, saying law enforcement is doing everything they can think we are spread at this time and asking for the public's help, and then she got into I guess robes. The last half of it is where I guess you're picking up on some clues and what she's saying and even how she's sang it. So here is Savannah Guthrie video put out a just a short time ago. This is the second half of that video. Here is what she says to the public.
00:04:22
Speaker 4: We believe our mom is still out there. We need your help. Law enforcement is working tirelessly around the clock trying to bring her home, trying to find her. She was taken and we don't know where, and we need your help. So I'm coming on just to ask you, not just for your prayers, but no matter where you are, even if you're far from Tucson, if you see anything, you hear anything, if there's anything at all that seems strange to you that you report to law enforcement. We are at an hour of desperation.
00:05:12
Speaker 1: And we need your out robes. I thought that was telling the idea that even if you're far away from Tucson suggests we don't know anything like we are nowhere, and I cannot believe that's the case here in the second week. How many days are we in a week? In two days? Three days at.
00:05:34
Speaker 2: Her disappearance, Yeah, this is I believe if she was last seen on Saturday at nine forty five pm.
00:05:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're on day nine. Correct.
00:05:46
Speaker 2: And obviously, with even her medical history and the fact that she needed medication.
00:05:53
Speaker 3: To survive and also to not be in pain, it just.
00:05:56
Speaker 2: Seems surreal that she would still be somewhere with someone who was somehow not negotiating with the Guthries after they've put out Now, how many.
00:06:06
Speaker 3: Videos has it been now, one, two, three, four?
00:06:11
Speaker 2: This is the fourth video, and this is I believe the first one significantly, since we heard of a ransom note where she or the siblings did not address a potential kidnapper. Never in this video did we hear her talk to or talk about a kidnapper. And that is of note because the last two have been solely in an effort to connect with or contact this potential kidnapper.
00:06:38
Speaker 1: The brother's last one was that we need we need to know that you have her proof of life, so it doesn't seem like they have gotten that anywhere. It doesn't seem like Ropes. They have gone from thinking they're communicating with a kidnapper and via social media to now this one. They're not addressing any potential kidnapper, and there are plenty of people that don't think there's a kidnapper at all. Ropes. This is we were talking about this earlier at lunch. This is the wildest mystery crime of a lifetime for a lot of reasons. But Robes, well, this makes no sense.
00:07:14
Speaker 2: It makes no sense because some of the other crimes that you might think would fit into a category like this John Man a Ramsey where you're so confused.
00:07:22
Speaker 3: There was a ransom note.
00:07:24
Speaker 2: They did obviously find her body very quickly, but no one still knows to this day who killed her, why she died. This mystery of the not knowing, and this falls right now into that category where sure you can point the finger at family, and that has certainly been suggested in some media circles, but police have staunchly said there are no suspects, there are no persons of interest, there is no vehicle of interest.
00:07:49
Speaker 3: We've heard all.
00:07:51
Speaker 2: I mean, actually NBC News, which I said I felt more comfortable relying upon because Savannah obviously works for them, and they would be taking extra precautions to make sure they didn't over report something that wasn't verified.
00:08:03
Speaker 3: But they were the ones to say that.
00:08:05
Speaker 2: A circle k owner or someone who was working there verified the police had a vehicle of interest that they supplied.
00:08:13
Speaker 3: The surveillance video.
00:08:14
Speaker 2: But then you've got the police coming out and refuting it, saying, we don't have a vehicle of interest.
00:08:19
Speaker 1: There's nothing, There is nothing at this point, and rugs. We have gone through and you and I we don't want to do all the speculating in public, but in private, everybody is.
00:08:33
Speaker 3: Everybody is they trying to come up with a scenario.
00:08:35
Speaker 1: We spent time in Santa Clara and the Bay Area for the Super Bowl. Everyone this was the thing. Hi, Hey, how you guys doing great? Ooh what do you think is going on with Savannah Guthrie's bomb.
00:08:47
Speaker 2: Every single person, it did not matter age, it did not matter matter what they.
00:08:53
Speaker 3: Did for a living, what they looked like.
00:08:55
Speaker 2: Every single person from all walks of life wanted to talk about this case.
00:09:01
Speaker 1: And you know what, when they asked, we gave them our opinion. We'll give it to you when we come back. Stay here, and all right, we continue here on Amy and TJ. Savannah Guthri putting out another desperate plea, this time not to kidnappers potential kidnappers, but this time to the public, saying, no matter where you are Tucson, near or far, please if you see anything, keep an eye out in report. She's a there an hour of desperation right now, Robes, I look these investigators. I know folks have been critical of the sheriff out there and how he's handled himself and some of the press briefings. Generally speaking, I think cops know what they're doing. Generally speaking, I think investigators know what they're doing, and most of them want to do a good job. So it's hard to believe that anyone who's criticizing or haven't done this, and haven't they figured out that. I have to believe, Robes that if all of the attention on this case and all the federal resources now on it, if they still got nothing, my mind is even more boggled. How is it possible, Robes, we got nothing on this lady exactly?
00:10:15
Speaker 2: And to your point, This isn't just some Pima County Sheriff's department fumbling a major story because they aren't ready for prime time. From the very beginning, when it was immediately known that this was Savannah Guthrie's mom, there was national attention and national resources available almost immediately.
00:10:36
Speaker 3: So this isn't a case of.
00:10:38
Speaker 2: Cops bungling something or not doing their job because they weren't prepared. Every single possible resource available to anyone in this country has been given and sent to this investigation, and we are still where we are. That definitely says something. And I actually want to know what you think, babe, because the last time, obviously we saw the civil put something out this weekend, but before that, there was a message from Savannah's brother Cameron that coincided directly with the deadline there. As you pointed out before the break, there is a or was another deadline today by five pm, reportedly demanding six million dollars. Do you think that that could be tied with this latest video?
00:11:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it happened the last time, you have to wonder why, And we noted in the video it didn't seem like it was that well prepared. It didn't wry, so she just hopped on because I got to get something out. It felt that way, and so yes, that would make sense. I the speculation part is very, very difficult. But this is not They keep saying, we believe she was taken. Okay, let's go with that. Where is the evidence and there's gotta be evidence that that woman was taken from there physically, right, so we have to know that. Is it fair to say? Is that the most certain thing we have that she was taking? Forget the ransom part, but what she'd taken against her will? She had to be she didn't leave home, right.
00:12:05
Speaker 2: Yes, because she left her phone, she left her wallet, she left her vehicle. No reasonable person would leave those things in the middle of the night unless they were taken against their will.
00:12:16
Speaker 1: Okay, so she was taken, So let's go with percentages, robes. Who's abducting eighty four year old women with medical issues? Nobody? Those chances are really low possible. This could be a flucish case, right, But if you go with the chances and the odds, it's just not happening. So what's the next thing? You go to? Somebody she knows, somebody close to her, somebody in the family. No authorities have to be looking at that. And if they haven't gotten to some place right now that they could make any kind of a move, that lends leads me to believe that. I guess maybe it wasn't that. Maybe it's not a fan member, maybe it's not somebody she knows, so this is actually a kidnapping.
00:13:05
Speaker 2: It's all incredibly puzzling anyone who watches crime shows of any kind, obviously we do, and I know a lot of you listening do as well. You know that the first people they are going to look at and question are the last people who saw this person alive, and that, of course is Savannah's sister Annie and her husband Tamaso or Tomaso.
00:13:26
Speaker 3: I still don't know how to say his.
00:13:27
Speaker 2: Name, but the point being is, obviously that's where a lot of the speculation has gone. We did see renewed searches inside Annie Guthrie's home that is absolutely verifiable and reportable. And then they went back recently and we're looking at Nancy's like exterior, and there was a manhole that they showed investigators going down and into, and of course that's all grim and horrific to imagine and to think about, and then to imagine if you're also a member of the Guthrie family and you're questioning one another. This has got to be gutting from the side out because you're wondering where your mom is and then you're seeing and realizing that the investigators are following up on leads that potentially your own family members could be potentially involved.
00:14:12
Speaker 3: That can't be.
00:14:13
Speaker 1: But that's mentioned on the outside. On the inside, it might be nothing.
00:14:16
Speaker 3: Maybe it's not.
00:14:17
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not even a dry and I'm not even discussed, not a thought at all, and it might not have be anything to it. Then somebody please tell me how you get this eighty four year old woman out of their undetected completely undetected.
00:14:34
Speaker 2: Well, it's a rural area, the cameras were taken, there was no subscription into recording any of the images, and the thought would be that whoever did what they did knew that, and the only people who knew that would be someone close to her. So look, just from a statistical standpoint, it makes sense. We understand how these things go. It is almost always someone who purports to love you. Those random acts of violence do happen, and you have to leave space for that and room for that. But they are exceptionally rare when it comes to these types of crimes.
00:15:09
Speaker 1: That's the thing. All of this is exceptionally rare. No matter what scenario you come up with, it's exceptionally rare. So just nothing makes sense. This story is captivating the country right now and it continues, and I can't believe we have as few answers as we do right now. Folks. We just want to hop on and give you that update today. The search goes on nine days. I think you said, yes, the search goes on, folks. Has always top right corner of your Apple podcast app where you see our show page. A little button there says follow. You can click that and make sure you always get our updates coming directly to you. But we will keep you posted on this one. For my dear Amy Robot, I'm TJ. Holmes. We will talk to y'all soon