April 30, 2026
New Orleans Sheriff Arrested, Indicted on 30 Felony Counts After 2025 Toilet Jailbreak
The first black woman to ever become sheriff in New Orleans is now on the other side of the law. Sheriff Susan Hutson has been indicted with 30 felony counts for last year’s brazen jailbreak of 10 inmates. Louisiana’s Attorney General said Sheriff Hutson didn’t personally open the doors for the inmates, but her inaction allowed and enabled their escape.
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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks.
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Speaker 2: It is Thursday, April thirtieth, and you remember that national story, that headline making jail break out of New Orleans last year?
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Speaker 1: Saw the video, you can see it in your mind.
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Speaker 2: Now remember those ten inmates running out of that New Orleans jail. Well, someone has now been charged in connection with that escape, and it's the sheriff. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. The sheriff didn't get with one or two or three felony counts, not even ten, not even twenty. This sheriff has now been hit with thirty charges related to being really really crappy at her job.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Orleans Parish Sheriff Susan Hudson is facing has been indicted on thirty felony counts, all related to that May twenty twenty five jail break of ten inmates. It has been documented as one of the largest and most brazen jail breaks in United States history, and it took them until October before all ten men were recaptured.
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Speaker 2: What did you say, one of the most brazen, one of the most something else you said, it's also one of the most hilarious. It's not these with some pretty hardened guys, but ropes, they're writing messages. They went out through a whole like a lot of the details.
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Speaker 1: And in the video you just see it was almost comedic, like something we see on a movie. These guys just are filing out of the jail. It was embarrassing.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it was a toilet jail break is how it's been described, because.
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Speaker 4: Basically they actually won. So by the way, we.
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Speaker 3: Should point this out, thirteen people had already been charged in relation to this jail break this year.
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Speaker 4: Ever and her CFO are the latest too.
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Speaker 2: Okay, but all those others were aiding like friends, colleagues. I think the janitor are.
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Speaker 4: Hitsborker who turned off the water to the toilet.
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Speaker 2: Do I have right, though, robes that this are these are the first people of authority correct to get hit with.
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Speaker 4: Charging, correct, and they went straight to the top.
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Speaker 3: The buck stops here and look notably, look we should point out that Susan Hudson was about to leave office. She's I think slated to leave on Monday. Today is Thursday. She was arrested and indicted yesterday. She got out on bail, by the way, late last night. So imagine you're the sheriff of Orleans Parish and you are in jail. She was in jail, had to post bomb three hundred thousand dollars. By the way, was her bond.
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Speaker 2: Bro She's getting fingerprinted and photographed by the saying people that she used to be in charge of. That's awful, and that's awkward. But Roe, did I hear she was about to be out of office on Monday?
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Speaker 4: Yes, because she was get this.
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Speaker 3: The election for sheriff took place three days after the last in eight was recaptured, so it was fresh on voter's mind. So the tenth guy finally gets recaptured in October, three days later, the election takes place. She only gets seventeen percent of the vote.
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Speaker 4: She handily lost.
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Speaker 3: No, she handily lost the election because she was the person in charge of the jail where ten dangerous, violent some of them even charged with murders, escaped and were out in the community from Louisiana to Texas to Georgia. That's how far the last inmate got.
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Speaker 1: It was Atlanta. Wasn't the last guy.
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Speaker 3: Got captured after a standoff, by the way in Atlanta in October.
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Speaker 2: May Juneesly August Stember October. So we talked about five months of and again, Robes, some of this, you can smile. No one was hurt at any point. No one was injured or harmed or kill, thank goodness, based on these guys getting out.
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Speaker 1: But Robes the reason.
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Speaker 2: Now, yes, you could laugh, and the hole in the wall and the toilet and the messages they left and all that, but Robes, someone is responsible for unleashing guys who the state believes are threats to the community. That rises that this is not just some oversight or the buckstops kind of a thing. Well, this is dangerous stuff and somebody didn't do their job.
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Speaker 3: It's and they believe that it was the shriff herself who did not do her job, along with her chief financial officer.
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Speaker 4: By the way, she is.
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Speaker 3: Facing twenty felony counts as well. So we can go over what these counts are, because here's what the Louisiana Attorney General had to say specifically about making this arrest, and they actually took this to a grand jury. The grand jury is the group or the body that came out with these thirty counts. But here's what the Louisiana Attorney General had to say while Sheriff Hudson did not personally open the doors of the jail for the escapees. Her refusal to comply with the basic legal requirements and to take even minimal precautions in the discharge of her duties directly contributed to and enable the escape. So yes, she is facing fourteen counts of malfeasance in office, four counts of conspiracy to commit malfeasance in office. The other counts include filing or maintaining false public records and obstruction of justice. I mean, these are major, serious felonies. This is a woman who was sheriff for the last several years. She may go, but but to jail. If found guilty of these crimes. For sure, we'll never be able to vote again. I mean you think we'll never be able to carry a firearm again if she is convicted of these counts. This is significant and a major headline.
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Speaker 2: Well there, I mean robes and what's her age again? I saw her picture, but I mean this is in her background in her career in robes. This was look any jail break, any escape, they are going to look at the share of a who's in charge, who's in charge of the jail of course, but Robes, this was stunning and embarrassing to a level that somebody needed to be held accountable. And they from the beginning, weren't they really trying to focus so much on the maintenance guy. Yes, it was almost as if they were trying to put it all on that guy for a little while by just turning off some water. Now he was he had a what was his defense for it?
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Speaker 3: He really he said something about why he turned off the water, but it had nothing to do with the inmates. It just so happened that there was some mechanical issue that he was trying to just forego a problem with the water league. So he just happened to turn it off when the inmates just happened to remove the toilet.
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Speaker 2: You know what, even hearing him, that was a part of his story that I thought, Okay, I'll listen the sheriff, I don't know what to say here, Robes. Now the legal thing has to do it to all this back and forth. But Robes, they had to do something and go after somebody. This was highly embarrassed. They literally not they were running, but they might as well have walked. They just strolled right out in a single file line out of jail, and we all saw those pictures over and over. Bro, this was highly embarrassing. Somebody had to pay for them.
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Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I agree with you, But I figured it would be a prison guard too, maybe the warden of the jail, Like I'm thinking it's gonna be one of those folks who were directly in charge of basically overseeing the jail. But no, they went straight to the top, to the woman who was supposed to be in charge of the whole thing. And look, they spent and they took their time because remember this all happened, They've had many months to put this together. And the Attorney General said they spent and took their time to make sure they got the right people and held them accountable.
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Speaker 4: And they believe it was the share.
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Speaker 3: Of herself and her chief financial officer, who by the way, is also a woman. So two women now being held accountable for this massive jail break.
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Speaker 1: Makes me think about John Dillon jail. There was a famous case back in the day of a woman being in charge of the jail that he broke out of right famous.
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Speaker 2: This is one of the most famous cases ever. And there's a press conference in which this female jailer, and they said, we want to transform, and she was like, nope, I could take care of him.
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Speaker 1: Right here, I find jail just as good as any other. There's less like a history.
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Speaker 2: I don't know why this is coming to mind, but there was this very famous case in which sure enough she said nope, I can take care of it, and they accused it, well, a woman can't take her, and sure enough he broke out of jail.
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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well history does repeat itself the case.
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Speaker 2: But you did point out that both of these are women. You've been reading a little more about this an update on the story than I have this morning. This shouldn't be a part of it. A woman can do a job just as well or just as poorly as any man.
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Speaker 1: Frankly, but I don't know.
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Speaker 2: If that is or is going to be becoming a part of this conversation because historically we have robes seeing this from at this point, you can take this from hegseth now on down some question about a woman and their ability to perform and handle these traditionally male testosterone driven roles, especially in law enforcement.
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Speaker 3: You make a good point if you think about it. Wow, I just now connected those dots. Hadn't thought about it, but yes, Pam Bondi, Attorney General Pam Bondy just lost her job, has been at least temporarily replaced by Todd Blanche, a man. And then of course you have Head of Homeland Security Christinome replaced with now a man. I was a Mark Wayne, correct, Mark Wayne Mullens. So yes, those are two very visible females who were in charge of law enforcement and they are now out of jobs. And look what we're having here now in New Orleans as well too, women who had very powerful positions within law enforcement losing their jobs.
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Speaker 2: Maybe nothing to do, but it unfortunately, it becomes a part of these conversations.
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Speaker 4: It's true. It's true.
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Speaker 3: When we come back, we're going to talk about why we aren't just talking about this sheriff as a woman, why she was also a major history maker.
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Speaker 4: And had a lot of high hopes pinned on her and what she.
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Speaker 3: Would be able to do for Orleans Parish, and will remind you just those details of that brazen prison outbreak.
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Speaker 1: All right, we continue here on Amy and DJ. If I give my dear.
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Speaker 5: Love outbreak instead of jail break, I said, a prison outbreak, as if there was some infectious disease that was going around from inmate to inmate when I teased the break, So my apologies.
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Speaker 4: I meant to say a different story, jail break.
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Speaker 3: But I already said prison, so it messed with my mind and I just went without.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, CDC is getting involved in this case.
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Speaker 4: No no, no, no no no.
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Speaker 3: But we were talking about Orleans Parish Sheriff Susan Hudson.
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Speaker 4: She had been voted out of office.
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Speaker 3: She was about to officially leave office, I believe, on Monday, hand the reins over to the new sheriff in town. But before that, Wow, this was a sendoff party or a sendoff gift. The Attorney General of Louisiana just arrested her thirty felony counts, all related to that massive, brazen prison outbreak that happened in May of last year. And look, obviously we've been talking about how she was a female. Her CFO who has also been indicted, also a female. But Susan Hudson was the first black woman to ever hold the office of sheriff in New Orleans.
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Speaker 1: Oh God, I hate that. I hate it. I hate it.
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Speaker 2: I hate it because this gives AMMO to certain segments of the population that think people.
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Speaker 1: Just get their jobs because there's some dei case. It sucks.
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Speaker 2: And this is why you hear, oftentimes black folks when there's a first, when there's a first ever, when Obama got into office, like woo, ready to get this right, don't mess up, you screw us up. We will not have another black president for one hundred years. And sure enough to hear this kind of a thing when it's the first and then something goes wrong. This is not an indictment of her being a woman, or her being black or anything else. This is her ability to do her job, and none of those things should be connected. But robes, they will be.
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Speaker 3: Yes, And that's unfortunate because you're measured by the worst in your group, by just about everybody, And unfortunately that is just the way society ends up viewing these sorts of incidents. They put a huge blanket across everyone. But hopefully, you know, we can hope that that.
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Speaker 4: Won't be the case. We can hope that each of these cases.
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Speaker 3: And when you have headlines like these, they are taken for the specific instance that they are.
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Speaker 1: And she's innocent, by the way, Yes, and.
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Speaker 3: Guilty, absolutely, absolutely so, and look they actually she has another court appearance ents today alongside her CFO, so perhaps some more details will come out, but she has a very long and arduous legal battle ahead of her.
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Speaker 4: She got twenty counts.
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Speaker 3: And it had to do with part of the money that was misdirected and wasn't being used appropriately to make the jail I guess unbreakable.
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Speaker 1: They're not suggesting that someone did something illegal with the funds that you're essentially saying you didn't fund this the way you should have one. Okay, those are two different things.
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Speaker 3: And maintaining false public records, obstruction of justice, malfeasan's in office. There's a lot of stuff there. There's a lot of accusations. There were a lot of financial issues, so I can get into the weeds here, but just beyond the jail break itself, this was hanging over her head as well, that she was paying exorbitant amounts of money for hotel rooms for members of her staff during Marty Gras and wasting taxpayer dollars and misusing funds, and so the CFO was involved in all of that, so it kind of was alleging that she was partying it up and living a lavish life, not putting funds where they were supposed to go, didn't appropriately have the jail in this setup that it should have been. By the way, this jail break, because I wanted to go over the details these guys, as we've all seen the pictures.
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Speaker 4: Was it too easy they had over the over the toilet.
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Speaker 1: They misspelled too right, Yes.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I think, And they just walked out of jail. But the other thing is this, they were noticed. No one reported them missing for hours and hours.
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Speaker 4: So if the correct.
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Speaker 3: Mode of operations, standard operating procedure, when you're checking, when you check inmates, when you recognize they're going, what's supposed to happen next, none of what was supposed to happen happened, and hours went by. These inmates had a massive lead time, and so yes, three of the ten inmates were apprehended within the first twenty four hours, but seven of them were out for quite some time, several of them for days and days. One got as far away as Texas. The ninth inmate, Antoine Massey, was found in New Orleans in June, and then the tenth inmate. He was the most dangerous of them all he was facing I think multiple homicide charges.
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Speaker 4: Derrick Groves, he was found in Atlanta and October.
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Speaker 1: Is that the dude that winked or smiled at the camera when he yes when he was.
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Speaker 3: Captured, But he managed to stay at large for five months and you've got basically known murderers out there. Antoine Massey was also a dangerous dude, and he was just like a mile away. And remember he made a video he was almost taunting detectives with his location because he was just out there living it up and eventually did get caught.
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Speaker 4: But this was a problem.
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Speaker 3: There were clear violations of protocol that took place for this to have happened the way it did.
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Speaker 2: We don't know that ten dudes are missing for hours, that's hours. You're you're a didy, I'm I'm sorry, You're terrible at your job. This is not We don't criticize law enforcement. They have investigations and whatnot, but I'm pretty sure that one of the basic basic tenets of you doing your job as a jailer is to know where your inmates are. Yeah, and if you miss one for five minutes, that's a problem. Ten minutes, oh half hour, we're in trouble several hours. For several hours, we didn't even know they were gone.
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Speaker 3: Would they sign literally scrawled on a wall, a toilet ripped off the wall, and a massive hole leading to outside, all gone unnoticed?
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Speaker 1: They literally signed out, they signed out. You're right, still didn't notice there're gone. The story is is ridiculous. But someone you were mentioning the charges that gets the CFO bro. When you started saying it, what it started sounding like is and I'm sorry New Orleans, Oh, typical New Orleans politics. It does sound like bureaucracy and scandal. And we've seen this. There are some cities robesgo.
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Speaker 4: You have to wait, New Jersey, the entire state.
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Speaker 2: They are just known for corruption in their politics.
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Speaker 1: So you started reading, I'll say, oh, okay, I get you now.
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Speaker 4: I mean there is a way of operating.
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Speaker 3: It seems in certain cities and jurisdictions that they just can't seem to break. They can't seem to break. But yes, Susan Hudson, and I don't think I gave the the cfo's name, Bianca Brown pre Well, I just did. They will be back in court today. We will follow this story. Didn't realize this jail break was going to have as many legs as it does, but certainly now it looks like number fourteen and number fifteen now charged. That is a significant number of people charged in this massive and historic jail break out of New Orleans. All right, we will continue to keep our eye on that, but thank you for listening to us. As always, I'm Amy Robock alongside TJ.
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Speaker 4: Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey, that folks.
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Speaker 2: It is Thursday, April thirtieth, and you remember that national story, that headline making jail break out of New Orleans last year?
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Speaker 1: Saw the video, you can see it in your mind.
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Speaker 2: Now remember those ten inmates running out of that New Orleans jail. Well, someone has now been charged in connection with that escape, and it's the sheriff. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. The sheriff didn't get with one or two or three felony counts, not even ten, not even twenty. This sheriff has now been hit with thirty charges related to being really really crappy at her job.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Orleans Parish Sheriff Susan Hudson is facing has been indicted on thirty felony counts, all related to that May twenty twenty five jail break of ten inmates. It has been documented as one of the largest and most brazen jail breaks in United States history, and it took them until October before all ten men were recaptured.
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Speaker 2: What did you say, one of the most brazen, one of the most something else you said, it's also one of the most hilarious. It's not these with some pretty hardened guys, but ropes, they're writing messages. They went out through a whole like a lot of the details.
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Speaker 1: And in the video you just see it was almost comedic, like something we see on a movie. These guys just are filing out of the jail. It was embarrassing.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it was a toilet jail break is how it's been described, because.
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Speaker 4: Basically they actually won. So by the way, we.
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Speaker 3: Should point this out, thirteen people had already been charged in relation to this jail break this year.
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Speaker 4: Ever and her CFO are the latest too.
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Speaker 2: Okay, but all those others were aiding like friends, colleagues. I think the janitor are.
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Speaker 4: Hitsborker who turned off the water to the toilet.
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Speaker 2: Do I have right, though, robes that this are these are the first people of authority correct to get hit with.
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Speaker 4: Charging, correct, and they went straight to the top.
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Speaker 3: The buck stops here and look notably, look we should point out that Susan Hudson was about to leave office. She's I think slated to leave on Monday. Today is Thursday. She was arrested and indicted yesterday. She got out on bail, by the way, late last night. So imagine you're the sheriff of Orleans Parish and you are in jail. She was in jail, had to post bomb three hundred thousand dollars. By the way, was her bond.
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Speaker 2: Bro She's getting fingerprinted and photographed by the saying people that she used to be in charge of. That's awful, and that's awkward. But Roe, did I hear she was about to be out of office on Monday?
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Speaker 4: Yes, because she was get this.
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Speaker 3: The election for sheriff took place three days after the last in eight was recaptured, so it was fresh on voter's mind. So the tenth guy finally gets recaptured in October, three days later, the election takes place. She only gets seventeen percent of the vote.
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Speaker 4: She handily lost.
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Speaker 3: No, she handily lost the election because she was the person in charge of the jail where ten dangerous, violent some of them even charged with murders, escaped and were out in the community from Louisiana to Texas to Georgia. That's how far the last inmate got.
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Speaker 1: It was Atlanta. Wasn't the last guy.
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Speaker 3: Got captured after a standoff, by the way in Atlanta in October.
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Speaker 2: May Juneesly August Stember October. So we talked about five months of and again, Robes, some of this, you can smile. No one was hurt at any point. No one was injured or harmed or kill, thank goodness, based on these guys getting out.
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Speaker 1: But Robes the reason.
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Speaker 2: Now, yes, you could laugh, and the hole in the wall and the toilet and the messages they left and all that, but Robes, someone is responsible for unleashing guys who the state believes are threats to the community. That rises that this is not just some oversight or the buckstops kind of a thing. Well, this is dangerous stuff and somebody didn't do their job.
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Speaker 3: It's and they believe that it was the shriff herself who did not do her job, along with her chief financial officer.
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Speaker 4: By the way, she is.
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Speaker 3: Facing twenty felony counts as well. So we can go over what these counts are, because here's what the Louisiana Attorney General had to say specifically about making this arrest, and they actually took this to a grand jury. The grand jury is the group or the body that came out with these thirty counts. But here's what the Louisiana Attorney General had to say while Sheriff Hudson did not personally open the doors of the jail for the escapees. Her refusal to comply with the basic legal requirements and to take even minimal precautions in the discharge of her duties directly contributed to and enable the escape. So yes, she is facing fourteen counts of malfeasance in office, four counts of conspiracy to commit malfeasance in office. The other counts include filing or maintaining false public records and obstruction of justice. I mean, these are major, serious felonies. This is a woman who was sheriff for the last several years. She may go, but but to jail. If found guilty of these crimes. For sure, we'll never be able to vote again. I mean you think we'll never be able to carry a firearm again if she is convicted of these counts. This is significant and a major headline.
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Speaker 2: Well there, I mean robes and what's her age again? I saw her picture, but I mean this is in her background in her career in robes. This was look any jail break, any escape, they are going to look at the share of a who's in charge, who's in charge of the jail of course, but Robes, this was stunning and embarrassing to a level that somebody needed to be held accountable. And they from the beginning, weren't they really trying to focus so much on the maintenance guy. Yes, it was almost as if they were trying to put it all on that guy for a little while by just turning off some water. Now he was he had a what was his defense for it?
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Speaker 3: He really he said something about why he turned off the water, but it had nothing to do with the inmates. It just so happened that there was some mechanical issue that he was trying to just forego a problem with the water league. So he just happened to turn it off when the inmates just happened to remove the toilet.
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Speaker 2: You know what, even hearing him, that was a part of his story that I thought, Okay, I'll listen the sheriff, I don't know what to say here, Robes. Now the legal thing has to do it to all this back and forth. But Robes, they had to do something and go after somebody. This was highly embarrassed. They literally not they were running, but they might as well have walked. They just strolled right out in a single file line out of jail, and we all saw those pictures over and over. Bro, this was highly embarrassing. Somebody had to pay for them.
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Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I agree with you, But I figured it would be a prison guard too, maybe the warden of the jail, Like I'm thinking it's gonna be one of those folks who were directly in charge of basically overseeing the jail. But no, they went straight to the top, to the woman who was supposed to be in charge of the whole thing. And look, they spent and they took their time because remember this all happened, They've had many months to put this together. And the Attorney General said they spent and took their time to make sure they got the right people and held them accountable.
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Speaker 4: And they believe it was the share.
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Speaker 3: Of herself and her chief financial officer, who by the way, is also a woman. So two women now being held accountable for this massive jail break.
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Speaker 1: Makes me think about John Dillon jail. There was a famous case back in the day of a woman being in charge of the jail that he broke out of right famous.
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Speaker 2: This is one of the most famous cases ever. And there's a press conference in which this female jailer, and they said, we want to transform, and she was like, nope, I could take care of him.
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Speaker 1: Right here, I find jail just as good as any other. There's less like a history.
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Speaker 2: I don't know why this is coming to mind, but there was this very famous case in which sure enough she said nope, I can take care of it, and they accused it, well, a woman can't take her, and sure enough he broke out of jail.
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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well history does repeat itself the case.
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Speaker 2: But you did point out that both of these are women. You've been reading a little more about this an update on the story than I have this morning. This shouldn't be a part of it. A woman can do a job just as well or just as poorly as any man.
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Speaker 1: Frankly, but I don't know.
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Speaker 2: If that is or is going to be becoming a part of this conversation because historically we have robes seeing this from at this point, you can take this from hegseth now on down some question about a woman and their ability to perform and handle these traditionally male testosterone driven roles, especially in law enforcement.
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Speaker 3: You make a good point if you think about it. Wow, I just now connected those dots. Hadn't thought about it, but yes, Pam Bondi, Attorney General Pam Bondy just lost her job, has been at least temporarily replaced by Todd Blanche, a man. And then of course you have Head of Homeland Security Christinome replaced with now a man. I was a Mark Wayne, correct, Mark Wayne Mullens. So yes, those are two very visible females who were in charge of law enforcement and they are now out of jobs. And look what we're having here now in New Orleans as well too, women who had very powerful positions within law enforcement losing their jobs.
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Speaker 2: Maybe nothing to do, but it unfortunately, it becomes a part of these conversations.
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Speaker 4: It's true. It's true.
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Speaker 3: When we come back, we're going to talk about why we aren't just talking about this sheriff as a woman, why she was also a major history maker.
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Speaker 4: And had a lot of high hopes pinned on her and what she.
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Speaker 3: Would be able to do for Orleans Parish, and will remind you just those details of that brazen prison outbreak.
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Speaker 1: All right, we continue here on Amy and DJ. If I give my dear.
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Speaker 5: Love outbreak instead of jail break, I said, a prison outbreak, as if there was some infectious disease that was going around from inmate to inmate when I teased the break, So my apologies.
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Speaker 4: I meant to say a different story, jail break.
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Speaker 3: But I already said prison, so it messed with my mind and I just went without.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, CDC is getting involved in this case.
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Speaker 4: No no, no, no no no.
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Speaker 3: But we were talking about Orleans Parish Sheriff Susan Hudson.
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Speaker 4: She had been voted out of office.
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Speaker 3: She was about to officially leave office, I believe, on Monday, hand the reins over to the new sheriff in town. But before that, Wow, this was a sendoff party or a sendoff gift. The Attorney General of Louisiana just arrested her thirty felony counts, all related to that massive, brazen prison outbreak that happened in May of last year. And look, obviously we've been talking about how she was a female. Her CFO who has also been indicted, also a female. But Susan Hudson was the first black woman to ever hold the office of sheriff in New Orleans.
00:11:45
Speaker 1: Oh God, I hate that. I hate it. I hate it.
00:11:51
Speaker 2: I hate it because this gives AMMO to certain segments of the population that think people.
00:11:55
Speaker 1: Just get their jobs because there's some dei case. It sucks.
00:11:59
Speaker 2: And this is why you hear, oftentimes black folks when there's a first, when there's a first ever, when Obama got into office, like woo, ready to get this right, don't mess up, you screw us up. We will not have another black president for one hundred years. And sure enough to hear this kind of a thing when it's the first and then something goes wrong. This is not an indictment of her being a woman, or her being black or anything else. This is her ability to do her job, and none of those things should be connected. But robes, they will be.
00:12:25
Speaker 3: Yes, And that's unfortunate because you're measured by the worst in your group, by just about everybody, And unfortunately that is just the way society ends up viewing these sorts of incidents. They put a huge blanket across everyone. But hopefully, you know, we can hope that that.
00:12:43
Speaker 4: Won't be the case. We can hope that each of these cases.
00:12:47
Speaker 3: And when you have headlines like these, they are taken for the specific instance that they are.
00:12:52
Speaker 1: And she's innocent, by the way, Yes, and.
00:12:54
Speaker 3: Guilty, absolutely, absolutely so, and look they actually she has another court appearance ents today alongside her CFO, so perhaps some more details will come out, but she has a very long and arduous legal battle ahead of her.
00:13:11
Speaker 4: She got twenty counts.
00:13:13
Speaker 3: And it had to do with part of the money that was misdirected and wasn't being used appropriately to make the jail I guess unbreakable.
00:13:25
Speaker 1: They're not suggesting that someone did something illegal with the funds that you're essentially saying you didn't fund this the way you should have one. Okay, those are two different things.
00:13:36
Speaker 3: And maintaining false public records, obstruction of justice, malfeasan's in office. There's a lot of stuff there. There's a lot of accusations. There were a lot of financial issues, so I can get into the weeds here, but just beyond the jail break itself, this was hanging over her head as well, that she was paying exorbitant amounts of money for hotel rooms for members of her staff during Marty Gras and wasting taxpayer dollars and misusing funds, and so the CFO was involved in all of that, so it kind of was alleging that she was partying it up and living a lavish life, not putting funds where they were supposed to go, didn't appropriately have the jail in this setup that it should have been. By the way, this jail break, because I wanted to go over the details these guys, as we've all seen the pictures.
00:14:23
Speaker 4: Was it too easy they had over the over the toilet.
00:14:27
Speaker 1: They misspelled too right, Yes.
00:14:29
Speaker 3: Yes, I think, And they just walked out of jail. But the other thing is this, they were noticed. No one reported them missing for hours and hours.
00:14:40
Speaker 4: So if the correct.
00:14:44
Speaker 3: Mode of operations, standard operating procedure, when you're checking, when you check inmates, when you recognize they're going, what's supposed to happen next, none of what was supposed to happen happened, and hours went by. These inmates had a massive lead time, and so yes, three of the ten inmates were apprehended within the first twenty four hours, but seven of them were out for quite some time, several of them for days and days. One got as far away as Texas. The ninth inmate, Antoine Massey, was found in New Orleans in June, and then the tenth inmate. He was the most dangerous of them all he was facing I think multiple homicide charges.
00:15:18
Speaker 4: Derrick Groves, he was found in Atlanta and October.
00:15:21
Speaker 1: Is that the dude that winked or smiled at the camera when he yes when he was.
00:15:25
Speaker 3: Captured, But he managed to stay at large for five months and you've got basically known murderers out there. Antoine Massey was also a dangerous dude, and he was just like a mile away. And remember he made a video he was almost taunting detectives with his location because he was just out there living it up and eventually did get caught.
00:15:49
Speaker 4: But this was a problem.
00:15:52
Speaker 3: There were clear violations of protocol that took place for this to have happened the way it did.
00:15:58
Speaker 2: We don't know that ten dudes are missing for hours, that's hours. You're you're a didy, I'm I'm sorry, You're terrible at your job. This is not We don't criticize law enforcement. They have investigations and whatnot, but I'm pretty sure that one of the basic basic tenets of you doing your job as a jailer is to know where your inmates are. Yeah, and if you miss one for five minutes, that's a problem. Ten minutes, oh half hour, we're in trouble several hours. For several hours, we didn't even know they were gone.
00:16:33
Speaker 3: Would they sign literally scrawled on a wall, a toilet ripped off the wall, and a massive hole leading to outside, all gone unnoticed?
00:16:44
Speaker 1: They literally signed out, they signed out. You're right, still didn't notice there're gone. The story is is ridiculous. But someone you were mentioning the charges that gets the CFO bro. When you started saying it, what it started sounding like is and I'm sorry New Orleans, Oh, typical New Orleans politics. It does sound like bureaucracy and scandal. And we've seen this. There are some cities robesgo.
00:17:09
Speaker 4: You have to wait, New Jersey, the entire state.
00:17:11
Speaker 2: They are just known for corruption in their politics.
00:17:15
Speaker 1: So you started reading, I'll say, oh, okay, I get you now.
00:17:18
Speaker 4: I mean there is a way of operating.
00:17:21
Speaker 3: It seems in certain cities and jurisdictions that they just can't seem to break. They can't seem to break. But yes, Susan Hudson, and I don't think I gave the the cfo's name, Bianca Brown pre Well, I just did. They will be back in court today. We will follow this story. Didn't realize this jail break was going to have as many legs as it does, but certainly now it looks like number fourteen and number fifteen now charged. That is a significant number of people charged in this massive and historic jail break out of New Orleans. All right, we will continue to keep our eye on that, but thank you for listening to us. As always, I'm Amy Robock alongside TJ.
00:18:03
Speaker 4: Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.
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