April 23, 2026
New England Patriots Coach Will Skip Final Day of NFL Draft…. For THERAPY
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RSS Feed Just when we thought we were done hearing from Patriots Head Coach Mike Vrabel on the photo controversy that cost NFL reporter Dianna Russini her job, he announces he is seeking counseling over the issue. Vrabel says he will miss the final day of the NFL draft, when the Patriots have 8 selections, in order to “be the best husband, father and coach that I can possibly be.”
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00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey, the folks. It is Thursday, April twenty third, and what an eventful week for Patriots head coach Mike Rabel. Started with the press conference, it's gonna end with the draft and after that counseling, and with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJY. Did we see this when coming robes counseling?
00:00:23
Speaker 2: No, because I thought that the way it was revealed, he needed to just say, Yep, I've had those difficult conversations with my family and with my team, and that's going to remain private and onwards and upwards, moving on. Yeah, and that's I mean, basically the culture of sports played at this level. When you have a winning coach with a winning team, he can kind of do no wrong, including some of his high profile players. So that's just the way the NFL works. That's how it was explained to me by you.
00:00:55
Speaker 1: Short of a crime. Short of a crime, right, so we see bad behavior and whatever. I don't want to classified as that, but yes, to your point, yes, there's a very high bar for losing your job in the NFL. He said what he said, coach Mike Crable. But to your point, now, it's a little surprising perhaps that he's come out and said more, which includes he's gonna miss Robes one day of the all important draft that starts today.
00:01:21
Speaker 2: And to your point, this has nothing to do with his status as a football coach, how he's regarded as the head coach of the Patriots. This has nothing to do with sports fans, or his players or the NFL. This has everything to do with his private life because no one is even investigating him. He really didn't have to say another word about it, and he certainly didn't have to go on any sort of PR campaign to refurbish his his reputation because, as you point out, it's not that big of a deal in the sports world.
00:01:56
Speaker 1: No, but he has come out now, and you're this wasn't necessarily Maybe this wasn't PR, This wasn't the NFL forcing him to do this. This isn't the Patriots forcing him to do this. Might be somebody much closer.
00:02:09
Speaker 2: To him who's been, you know, perhaps by his side for the past twenty six years. In counting his wife jan Yes, yes, they were married in nineteen ninety nine, so this would be I don't know when their exact anniversary date is, but this would be the twenty seventh year of their marriage. They have two adult sons who are in their twenties. And I just the way it was left on Tuesday when he made that statement, it seemed like he was kind of dusting his hands of the situation and moving on. So this was surprising, and to me, the only explanation would be this is personal.
00:02:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had Yes. Quite possibly it's personal role as well. It's not a reading the tea leave situation here necessarily fairly obvious. He was seen in pictures that are clear to anyone go beyond two people who are work colleagues. Right, they're much friendlier than that. I'm not going to sign anything else to it. They've made their statements about it. He is discussed rogues reading between those lines. He said flat out that he wasn't setting a good example. He had difficult conversations with his family and with his team. So they've essentially said there was some shenanigans going on. Is that fair? I want to be a airy yes.
00:03:25
Speaker 2: Because the NFL reporter also who was involved with this, Diana Rossini, she resigned her position because she didn't want to be subjected to the continuing scrutiny that was going on within the New York Times, the athletic, the narrative, the episode, she called it too, which I thought was strange. So she removed herself from the conversation by leaving her position. But you wouldn't do that if nothing had happened that was even potentially unseeming. So and he wouldn't have made these statements, and he certainly wouldn't have announced he was going to counseling if something hadn't happened. So neither one of them have outwardly overtly acknowledge that there was an affair or there was an inappropriate relationship. But it can be I think, very very much so inferred by their actions and their statements.
00:04:12
Speaker 1: Yes, and again that is their business, yes, out there now. But they have made some statements, and she has her resignation letter that rose made this rise to a level of them speaking on it, so we can speak on what they have said about it. But outside of that, neither one of these two right rogues have admitted to no neither one of them stepping out publicly their spouses. So they can do whatever they that is their business period.
00:04:38
Speaker 2: I have a question for you, how big of a deal. Is it for the New England Patriots head coach to miss the third day of the NFL Draft when they have eleven selections in total and eight of them are on that third day? Does that matter? How big of a deal is this?
00:04:56
Speaker 1: I don't think it rises to that big a level. The third day is not the most watch day, not the most important day. There's a lot of deals being made that he needs to be a part of, and he can continue to be a part of. But the third day of the draft is not the big the biggest event as far as deals being made and changing your team his absence, So are they got between the recruits? So not recruits but scouts and the owner and GMS and all this stuff making deals. The team is not going to miss out.
00:05:26
Speaker 2: That's fine, But why, this is my question. He could have just as easily started counseling on Monday or next weekend. Is there any reason why?
00:05:39
Speaker 1: You know the answer?
00:05:40
Speaker 2: Things get even more He didn't complicated if he were to wait or put off that therapy. Is there any reason why, from a football scheduling standpoint, he needed to start his therapy on Saturday?
00:05:51
Speaker 1: You know the answer? It gives him one less day to have to walk around with his head down in shame at the biggest event the NFL has outside of the Super Bowl, and.
00:06:01
Speaker 2: It looks like he's doing something about a problem he is implying he has.
00:06:07
Speaker 1: Okay, and keep stacking it up there robes. Now, it's so important to him to do that that he's willing to miss this important thing. It keeps him out of the media circus for a full.
00:06:18
Speaker 2: Saturday, and it also might keep him in better graces with his wife and his wife and his children possibly possibly.
00:06:24
Speaker 1: And don't know what kind of counseling. I haven't seen anything specific right now.
00:06:28
Speaker 2: No, And a lot of people have asked, Okay, he's going we'll give you his exact statement in just a moment, But no, it was not specific. Is this sex addiction? Is this just a mental health situation? Is this something else? We don't know. There were no specifics given as to the type of counseling. If he's checking himself into a facility, if he's doing an outpatient We have no idea on the details as of yet.
00:06:51
Speaker 1: And why that counseling starts on.
00:06:54
Speaker 2: A Saturday exactly. That was my question. Let's go ahead and read for you what Mike Rabel had to say in his official statement saying that he was going to miss the third day. As I said the other day, I promised my family, this organization, and this team that I was going to give them the best version of me that I can possibly give them. In order to do so, I have committed to seeking counseling starting this weekend. This is something that I have given a lot of thought to and to something I would advise a player to do if I was counseling them. I have always wanted to lead by example, and I believe this is what I have to do to be the best husband, father, and coach that I can possibly be. This is not an easy thing for me to admit, but it is one that I know will make me a better person. I appreciate the support that everyone has given me and promise a stronger resolve as a result. And I do think it's interesting. He pointed out the order in which he said he wanted to improve himself to be the best husband number one, father, number two, coach number three. That was the right order for that.
00:08:04
Speaker 1: Was that was exactly the right order. Look, it's it's this is a mess. I hate people's I hate he. I don't know where I am know this. Sometimes rome's because people's personal lives get exposed, thrown out there without context of what's going on in their lives. So everybody can obviously just jump and say this person's doing this, that and everything else. I just do not know, and I don't know him, I don't know her. There is no judgment anybody can give, and all there is right now Robe is just pictures. And he knows as the head of the New England Patriots coach that is a high profile position, not just as a representative of that team role, but a representative of the NFL. That is a storied franchise. At this point, the head, the face of that needs to be in better public graces. The NFL would argue, then this puts him in.
00:08:57
Speaker 2: Yes, but they have not said one word. In fact, the only thing they've given is support. They've thrown their support to him. They've made it very clear there's no investigation into his actions off the field, and so this was purely voluntary. This was not imposed in any way. And look, we've never heard him apologize. That is not publicly sure. And look, I'm not saying in any way he owes any one of us, the public, or his even his team. He doesn't owe anyone an apology other than possibly his wife, which he said those conversations will remain private, which clearly they should. But look, this is a situation where he is heading off on Saturday. He says, he did acknowledge he will be with his family outside of Massachusetts this weekend, so we again, I'm just curious how much privacy he will be afforded by the press with wherever he goes to seek this counseling.
00:09:55
Speaker 1: You know, they're trying to figure it out. The price is going to try to track it down. Hope he does get that. I err on the side of families. I err on the side of giving them their space, their moment, their privacy for these difficult times ropes, and we just don't know. I just I don't know. I just know they're going through it, and it's your heart goes out. And it's not being sympathetic to Raybel, but the Rabel family, Yes, to the Russini family, and everybody's surrounding that, even the athletic New York Times, right, all of it looks bad on folks. You hate it for them to have to answer questions. Players are gonna have to answer questions about all this. So a lot of people got impacted and well, don't know them and I hope this gets fixed. In the Rabel house, headlines be down.
00:10:48
Speaker 2: Well. The good news is, it seems as though by him making this move, him saying he's spending this weekend with his family, the fact that he's being public about his announcement that he's going to see counseling all points in the direction that they are trying to work through things, and that is certainly a good thing. But we know that Mike Rabel is just the latest in a long list of male celebrities who, after some sort of public embarrassment, goes straight to public therapy. And welcome back, everybody to this episode of Amy and TJ New England Patriots head coach Mike Rabel heading to therapy this weekend, skipping out on the third day, the final day of the NFL Draft to do so a bit of a shocking announcement that we weren't expecting. We thought we had heard the end of it on Tuesday when he said, I've had difficult conversations and now let's go play some football. So now we're actually seeing Rabel head off to an unknown destination. We don't know exactly what type of therapy he's going to be receiving, where he receiving it, how intense it's going to be, in patient, outpatient, None of those details are available. But he is going to be joining a long list of men who have done something similar in I don't want to say similar, but I guess adjacent types of scandals or bad press, whatever you want to call it. Tiger Woods right now, among them, he has gone to therapy for sex addiction.
00:12:24
Speaker 1: Correct, that was right after that the car accident, right the suv and people figured out what's going on. His whole world got turned upside.
00:12:34
Speaker 2: Down with his then wife chasing him with a golf club. I believe. Okay, that was supposed. But he's now actually a treatment again now, and this looks like it's for substance abuse for pain management. So now he but he went to therapy once for sex addiction, and now he's back in therapy for substance addiction. We were looking up some other cases though, David d'covny, you remember that one that one checked himself into rehab for sex edition, sex addiction following all of his scandalous reports of infidelity. Californication was his big shows, right, which was always and it was like a tough a tough thing because the show was pretty much all about that. Yes, Harvey Weinstein, I didn't even remember that he went into a treatment facility in Arizona to deal with sex addiction.
00:13:21
Speaker 1: When was that that?
00:13:23
Speaker 2: It was after numerous sexual abuse allegations. He thought he could, Yeah, he thought he could rehab his like public image at that point, he went to the Meadows in Arizona, which is also where Kevin Spacey reportedly went when he was accused by multiple men. He went to sex addiction treatment as well, at the same place. Guess what, Anthony Wiener remember him from New York. He checked into a sex addiction wing in Tennessee after his scandalous can we say dick pics? That's what he was sending Remeber.
00:13:59
Speaker 1: It wasn't a fai, it was dick pix.
00:14:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like what an unfortunate last name when you're known for that, can't really escape it.
00:14:06
Speaker 1: That was on Twitter. I remember that being everywhere man.
00:14:08
Speaker 2: Was also famous men who went to sex addiction therapy Russell Brandt, Charlie Sheen, Colin Ferrell, Eric Bennet with the whole halle Berry stuff.
00:14:19
Speaker 1: So wait, those were the last four you mentioned were.
00:14:22
Speaker 2: Sex addiction A Colin Farrell had sex and substance abuse addiction, and I think Charlie Sheen might have had both two. It's like you get a one to two, like two for one price when you go into these centers. But as a deal they treat multiple addictions. Basically, if you have an addictive personality, apparently it can be more than one issue.
00:14:41
Speaker 1: I did not realize that many all those guys went to sex addiction. A second, and it's a real thing, you're telling me, I didn't know if it was being officially identified by the whatever official.
00:14:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it is a real thing. Look, I remember when David d'covney's sex addiction. That was back in two thousand and eight. It's almost twenty years ago, so there was a lot of eye rolling. And there often are those reactions the like, Okay, you're addicted to sex, what man isn't? Look that has been said plenty under people's breadths end publicly. But I do think it is something that has been absolutely acknowledged in the mental health community.
00:15:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tiger was the next year, wasn't it.
00:15:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was. There was a lot of and I think that contributed to the eye rolling. Oh we got another guy who's addicted to sex and that's why he's behaved badly. Wow, we should make sure all of our men get checked before we marry them. Yeah, I think that was part of what people were saying in the moment. But when look, we don't know if Mike Rabel is going to sex addiction, if he's going to any other sort of just maybe maybe he's looking into his childhood, like who knows, this could be all sorts of different types of therapies. But he is getting help that he says he needs, and we will be watching and I think most of us will be rooting him on.
00:15:57
Speaker 1: Rabel family on Look, the guy, I don't know what he did. I don't know what to do with folks, And there's no judgment here to be made one way or another. Just it was awful for a lot of people involved, and you could feel sorry for a lot of people. You don't have two for those two, but there are a lot of people in that hole orbit that it's unfortunate this is happening.
00:16:16
Speaker 2: And I think that's always important to remember when we see scandalous headlines that there's a lot of pain that goes along with that. Not necessarily that you need to feel any sort of pity for the people who have maybe caused some of this pain, but certainly for the people who love them. So that's always good to remember. And with that, everyone, thank you so much for listening to us. I'm a Mee Robock alongside TJ. Holmes. We will talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey, the folks. It is Thursday, April twenty third, and what an eventful week for Patriots head coach Mike Rabel. Started with the press conference, it's gonna end with the draft and after that counseling, and with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJY. Did we see this when coming robes counseling?
00:00:23
Speaker 2: No, because I thought that the way it was revealed, he needed to just say, Yep, I've had those difficult conversations with my family and with my team, and that's going to remain private and onwards and upwards, moving on. Yeah, and that's I mean, basically the culture of sports played at this level. When you have a winning coach with a winning team, he can kind of do no wrong, including some of his high profile players. So that's just the way the NFL works. That's how it was explained to me by you.
00:00:55
Speaker 1: Short of a crime. Short of a crime, right, so we see bad behavior and whatever. I don't want to classified as that, but yes, to your point, yes, there's a very high bar for losing your job in the NFL. He said what he said, coach Mike Crable. But to your point, now, it's a little surprising perhaps that he's come out and said more, which includes he's gonna miss Robes one day of the all important draft that starts today.
00:01:21
Speaker 2: And to your point, this has nothing to do with his status as a football coach, how he's regarded as the head coach of the Patriots. This has nothing to do with sports fans, or his players or the NFL. This has everything to do with his private life because no one is even investigating him. He really didn't have to say another word about it, and he certainly didn't have to go on any sort of PR campaign to refurbish his his reputation because, as you point out, it's not that big of a deal in the sports world.
00:01:56
Speaker 1: No, but he has come out now, and you're this wasn't necessarily Maybe this wasn't PR, This wasn't the NFL forcing him to do this. This isn't the Patriots forcing him to do this. Might be somebody much closer.
00:02:09
Speaker 2: To him who's been, you know, perhaps by his side for the past twenty six years. In counting his wife jan Yes, yes, they were married in nineteen ninety nine, so this would be I don't know when their exact anniversary date is, but this would be the twenty seventh year of their marriage. They have two adult sons who are in their twenties. And I just the way it was left on Tuesday when he made that statement, it seemed like he was kind of dusting his hands of the situation and moving on. So this was surprising, and to me, the only explanation would be this is personal.
00:02:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had Yes. Quite possibly it's personal role as well. It's not a reading the tea leave situation here necessarily fairly obvious. He was seen in pictures that are clear to anyone go beyond two people who are work colleagues. Right, they're much friendlier than that. I'm not going to sign anything else to it. They've made their statements about it. He is discussed rogues reading between those lines. He said flat out that he wasn't setting a good example. He had difficult conversations with his family and with his team. So they've essentially said there was some shenanigans going on. Is that fair? I want to be a airy yes.
00:03:25
Speaker 2: Because the NFL reporter also who was involved with this, Diana Rossini, she resigned her position because she didn't want to be subjected to the continuing scrutiny that was going on within the New York Times, the athletic, the narrative, the episode, she called it too, which I thought was strange. So she removed herself from the conversation by leaving her position. But you wouldn't do that if nothing had happened that was even potentially unseeming. So and he wouldn't have made these statements, and he certainly wouldn't have announced he was going to counseling if something hadn't happened. So neither one of them have outwardly overtly acknowledge that there was an affair or there was an inappropriate relationship. But it can be I think, very very much so inferred by their actions and their statements.
00:04:12
Speaker 1: Yes, and again that is their business, yes, out there now. But they have made some statements, and she has her resignation letter that rose made this rise to a level of them speaking on it, so we can speak on what they have said about it. But outside of that, neither one of these two right rogues have admitted to no neither one of them stepping out publicly their spouses. So they can do whatever they that is their business period.
00:04:38
Speaker 2: I have a question for you, how big of a deal. Is it for the New England Patriots head coach to miss the third day of the NFL Draft when they have eleven selections in total and eight of them are on that third day? Does that matter? How big of a deal is this?
00:04:56
Speaker 1: I don't think it rises to that big a level. The third day is not the most watch day, not the most important day. There's a lot of deals being made that he needs to be a part of, and he can continue to be a part of. But the third day of the draft is not the big the biggest event as far as deals being made and changing your team his absence, So are they got between the recruits? So not recruits but scouts and the owner and GMS and all this stuff making deals. The team is not going to miss out.
00:05:26
Speaker 2: That's fine, But why, this is my question. He could have just as easily started counseling on Monday or next weekend. Is there any reason why?
00:05:39
Speaker 1: You know the answer?
00:05:40
Speaker 2: Things get even more He didn't complicated if he were to wait or put off that therapy. Is there any reason why, from a football scheduling standpoint, he needed to start his therapy on Saturday?
00:05:51
Speaker 1: You know the answer? It gives him one less day to have to walk around with his head down in shame at the biggest event the NFL has outside of the Super Bowl, and.
00:06:01
Speaker 2: It looks like he's doing something about a problem he is implying he has.
00:06:07
Speaker 1: Okay, and keep stacking it up there robes. Now, it's so important to him to do that that he's willing to miss this important thing. It keeps him out of the media circus for a full.
00:06:18
Speaker 2: Saturday, and it also might keep him in better graces with his wife and his wife and his children possibly possibly.
00:06:24
Speaker 1: And don't know what kind of counseling. I haven't seen anything specific right now.
00:06:28
Speaker 2: No, And a lot of people have asked, Okay, he's going we'll give you his exact statement in just a moment, But no, it was not specific. Is this sex addiction? Is this just a mental health situation? Is this something else? We don't know. There were no specifics given as to the type of counseling. If he's checking himself into a facility, if he's doing an outpatient We have no idea on the details as of yet.
00:06:51
Speaker 1: And why that counseling starts on.
00:06:54
Speaker 2: A Saturday exactly. That was my question. Let's go ahead and read for you what Mike Rabel had to say in his official statement saying that he was going to miss the third day. As I said the other day, I promised my family, this organization, and this team that I was going to give them the best version of me that I can possibly give them. In order to do so, I have committed to seeking counseling starting this weekend. This is something that I have given a lot of thought to and to something I would advise a player to do if I was counseling them. I have always wanted to lead by example, and I believe this is what I have to do to be the best husband, father, and coach that I can possibly be. This is not an easy thing for me to admit, but it is one that I know will make me a better person. I appreciate the support that everyone has given me and promise a stronger resolve as a result. And I do think it's interesting. He pointed out the order in which he said he wanted to improve himself to be the best husband number one, father, number two, coach number three. That was the right order for that.
00:08:04
Speaker 1: Was that was exactly the right order. Look, it's it's this is a mess. I hate people's I hate he. I don't know where I am know this. Sometimes rome's because people's personal lives get exposed, thrown out there without context of what's going on in their lives. So everybody can obviously just jump and say this person's doing this, that and everything else. I just do not know, and I don't know him, I don't know her. There is no judgment anybody can give, and all there is right now Robe is just pictures. And he knows as the head of the New England Patriots coach that is a high profile position, not just as a representative of that team role, but a representative of the NFL. That is a storied franchise. At this point, the head, the face of that needs to be in better public graces. The NFL would argue, then this puts him in.
00:08:57
Speaker 2: Yes, but they have not said one word. In fact, the only thing they've given is support. They've thrown their support to him. They've made it very clear there's no investigation into his actions off the field, and so this was purely voluntary. This was not imposed in any way. And look, we've never heard him apologize. That is not publicly sure. And look, I'm not saying in any way he owes any one of us, the public, or his even his team. He doesn't owe anyone an apology other than possibly his wife, which he said those conversations will remain private, which clearly they should. But look, this is a situation where he is heading off on Saturday. He says, he did acknowledge he will be with his family outside of Massachusetts this weekend, so we again, I'm just curious how much privacy he will be afforded by the press with wherever he goes to seek this counseling.
00:09:55
Speaker 1: You know, they're trying to figure it out. The price is going to try to track it down. Hope he does get that. I err on the side of families. I err on the side of giving them their space, their moment, their privacy for these difficult times ropes, and we just don't know. I just I don't know. I just know they're going through it, and it's your heart goes out. And it's not being sympathetic to Raybel, but the Rabel family, Yes, to the Russini family, and everybody's surrounding that, even the athletic New York Times, right, all of it looks bad on folks. You hate it for them to have to answer questions. Players are gonna have to answer questions about all this. So a lot of people got impacted and well, don't know them and I hope this gets fixed. In the Rabel house, headlines be down.
00:10:48
Speaker 2: Well. The good news is, it seems as though by him making this move, him saying he's spending this weekend with his family, the fact that he's being public about his announcement that he's going to see counseling all points in the direction that they are trying to work through things, and that is certainly a good thing. But we know that Mike Rabel is just the latest in a long list of male celebrities who, after some sort of public embarrassment, goes straight to public therapy. And welcome back, everybody to this episode of Amy and TJ New England Patriots head coach Mike Rabel heading to therapy this weekend, skipping out on the third day, the final day of the NFL Draft to do so a bit of a shocking announcement that we weren't expecting. We thought we had heard the end of it on Tuesday when he said, I've had difficult conversations and now let's go play some football. So now we're actually seeing Rabel head off to an unknown destination. We don't know exactly what type of therapy he's going to be receiving, where he receiving it, how intense it's going to be, in patient, outpatient, None of those details are available. But he is going to be joining a long list of men who have done something similar in I don't want to say similar, but I guess adjacent types of scandals or bad press, whatever you want to call it. Tiger Woods right now, among them, he has gone to therapy for sex addiction.
00:12:24
Speaker 1: Correct, that was right after that the car accident, right the suv and people figured out what's going on. His whole world got turned upside.
00:12:34
Speaker 2: Down with his then wife chasing him with a golf club. I believe. Okay, that was supposed. But he's now actually a treatment again now, and this looks like it's for substance abuse for pain management. So now he but he went to therapy once for sex addiction, and now he's back in therapy for substance addiction. We were looking up some other cases though, David d'covny, you remember that one that one checked himself into rehab for sex edition, sex addiction following all of his scandalous reports of infidelity. Californication was his big shows, right, which was always and it was like a tough a tough thing because the show was pretty much all about that. Yes, Harvey Weinstein, I didn't even remember that he went into a treatment facility in Arizona to deal with sex addiction.
00:13:21
Speaker 1: When was that that?
00:13:23
Speaker 2: It was after numerous sexual abuse allegations. He thought he could, Yeah, he thought he could rehab his like public image at that point, he went to the Meadows in Arizona, which is also where Kevin Spacey reportedly went when he was accused by multiple men. He went to sex addiction treatment as well, at the same place. Guess what, Anthony Wiener remember him from New York. He checked into a sex addiction wing in Tennessee after his scandalous can we say dick pics? That's what he was sending Remeber.
00:13:59
Speaker 1: It wasn't a fai, it was dick pix.
00:14:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like what an unfortunate last name when you're known for that, can't really escape it.
00:14:06
Speaker 1: That was on Twitter. I remember that being everywhere man.
00:14:08
Speaker 2: Was also famous men who went to sex addiction therapy Russell Brandt, Charlie Sheen, Colin Ferrell, Eric Bennet with the whole halle Berry stuff.
00:14:19
Speaker 1: So wait, those were the last four you mentioned were.
00:14:22
Speaker 2: Sex addiction A Colin Farrell had sex and substance abuse addiction, and I think Charlie Sheen might have had both two. It's like you get a one to two, like two for one price when you go into these centers. But as a deal they treat multiple addictions. Basically, if you have an addictive personality, apparently it can be more than one issue.
00:14:41
Speaker 1: I did not realize that many all those guys went to sex addiction. A second, and it's a real thing, you're telling me, I didn't know if it was being officially identified by the whatever official.
00:14:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it is a real thing. Look, I remember when David d'covney's sex addiction. That was back in two thousand and eight. It's almost twenty years ago, so there was a lot of eye rolling. And there often are those reactions the like, Okay, you're addicted to sex, what man isn't? Look that has been said plenty under people's breadths end publicly. But I do think it is something that has been absolutely acknowledged in the mental health community.
00:15:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tiger was the next year, wasn't it.
00:15:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was. There was a lot of and I think that contributed to the eye rolling. Oh we got another guy who's addicted to sex and that's why he's behaved badly. Wow, we should make sure all of our men get checked before we marry them. Yeah, I think that was part of what people were saying in the moment. But when look, we don't know if Mike Rabel is going to sex addiction, if he's going to any other sort of just maybe maybe he's looking into his childhood, like who knows, this could be all sorts of different types of therapies. But he is getting help that he says he needs, and we will be watching and I think most of us will be rooting him on.
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Speaker 1: Rabel family on Look, the guy, I don't know what he did. I don't know what to do with folks, And there's no judgment here to be made one way or another. Just it was awful for a lot of people involved, and you could feel sorry for a lot of people. You don't have two for those two, but there are a lot of people in that hole orbit that it's unfortunate this is happening.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's always important to remember when we see scandalous headlines that there's a lot of pain that goes along with that. Not necessarily that you need to feel any sort of pity for the people who have maybe caused some of this pain, but certainly for the people who love them. So that's always good to remember. And with that, everyone, thank you so much for listening to us. I'm a Mee Robock alongside TJ. Holmes. We will talk to you soon.