Sept. 8, 2026
NEW DETAILS: Illinois Mom Planned To Poison Husband, Thought She Killed Other Kids, After Strangling Toddler
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RSS Feed A judge denied the release of 40-year-old mom of four, Corie Walsh during her first court appearance after strangling her 2-year-old son Barrett last week, saying she remains a risk to her other children and husband. Walsh’s attorneys wanted their client sent to a mental health facility, claiming Walsh had a fascination with the Lindsay Clancy trial while suffering a psychotic event at the time of the murder. Some new and chilling details came out of today’s hearing: police described Walsh as “incoherent” and claimed she believed she had killed her other children while planning to poison her husband with a drink when he came home. Walsh is charged with first degree murder after her two older children found their 2 year old brother hanging from the rafters of their basement.
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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Tuesday, September 8th, and a woman that police say was invested in the Lindsay Clancy trial has been charged with killing her two-year-old child. She just made a court appearance, and we have learned that she was hoping to do much more damage to her family. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ, a case robes that has a bunch of similarities, echoes of the Lindsay Clancy case. But what in God's name are we about to do with this one now? Because we are learning some much more disturbing details of an already disturbing case.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 3: 40-year-old Corey Walsh, mom of four, made her first court appearance after, yes, her own children.
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Speaker 2: A neighbor, and then police.
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Speaker 3: discovered another horrific unthinkable tragedy her two-year-old toddler hanging from the rafter of her basement she was found in the bathtub fully clothed in bloody water seemingly trying to kill herself with a knife sound familiar a dead child in the basement a woman trying to kill herself with a knife in the aftermath.
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Speaker 1: Kids strangled even right uh strangled the kid was strangled hanging from So, obviously, Robes, people made, you know, even if before you heard some of the details the police gave us, the parallels were already being made. But on top of that, police did add to it and say this woman was someone who. The word they use is invested.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: In the Lindsay Clancy trial.
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Speaker 3: I believe her attorney even used the word fascinated by the Lindsay Clancy trial. And yes, the jury was out in the middle of deliberations when the murder actually happened.
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Speaker 2: But we're starting to get some new information.
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Speaker 3: Even more chilling details because, yes, she was in court today, and this is the big headline. The judge in this case denied her attorney's request for a release.
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Speaker 2: They want her in a mental facility.
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Speaker 3: They want her being treated for what they say is postpartum psychosis.
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Speaker 1: They're using that exact phrase?
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Her attorneys want her to be in inpatient medical care, but the judge denied the request for that because the judge said there are compelling reasons reasons to continue Corey Walsh's detainment, namely that she poses a risk to her remaining children and her husband.
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Speaker 1: Wait, but the defense was arguing... For her to be relieved, but to a facility. They weren't saying let her go home, were they?
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Speaker 2: But still, if you're in.
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Speaker 3: A facility, you're not in the same type of restraints or detainment that you would be if you were in a prison. And so, yes, I guess there's still the thought, what if her children came to visit? What if her husband came to visit? What if anyone came to visit her?
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Speaker 1: Is she.
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Speaker 3: capable of being trusted. And the judge said she needs to be behind bars for safety reasons.
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Speaker 1: And you mentioned the husband. Is that the highlight? I guess that's jump off the page type information. And we just got this. It was a short time ago. She was in a court hearing for the first time. Corey Walsh, again, charged with killing her two-year-old child. This was last week that this took place. Now, it was her first court appearance today. We're learning now and the part that jumps off the page, she was hoping to do more damage potentially to the family.
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Speaker 2: Correct.
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Speaker 3: So this all came out in the hearing today, but prosecutors say that Corey Walsh discussed with police planning to poison her husband with a drink when he came home, and they claim she believed that she had killed her other children. So initially she had said she had drowned the infant, which, by the way, they found the infant on the ground floor in the floor of a room completely unsupervised. And the two older children were at school when this was all taking place to unfortunately come home and walk into the aftermath of all of this.
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Speaker 2: But she believed, according.
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Speaker 3: To prosecutors, that she had already killed her other children and she was planning to poison her husband with a drink.
00:04:21
Speaker 1: Yes, the question arose there. And again, I'm thinking about the Lindsay Clancy case. Why leave the infant alone? And alive and okay.
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Speaker 2: Her attorneys say.
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Speaker 3: She was in a state of psychosis that unfortunately coincided with the Lindsay Clancy trial, but just speaking to her level of psychosis, she wasn't even clear what was real and what was not, what she had done and what she hadn't done or what she was planning to do. And look, some of those witnesses, we also heard that she had been actively texting some of her friends in a group chat about the Lindsay Clancy trial. Well, some of those friends have provided some more information saying they noticed... unusual behavior from her in those text messages they say they described her messaging as confusing and out of character her friend said that cory walsh believed patrick clancy killed the children and was writing to them in this group chat that it was manslaughter please help i'm really freaking out like she was taking it personally and acting as if there was some threat and she was of the belief that Patrick Clancy is the one who killed the kids. So they said she started talking or texting in a way that was out of character, and they were concerned something was wrong. The neighbor who found her described her as having dilated eyes and a weird giggle. Even the paramedics who came on the scene described her as.
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Speaker 2: What was the word they used? I want to make sure I get it right.
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Speaker 3: They claimed that she was basically out of control. So everyone's describing that she was behaving strangely and oddly when they found her.
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Speaker 2: Incoherent is the word they used.
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Speaker 1: Here is the thing, Ropes, and since Lindsay Clancy's name has come up plenty, there was part of that people had difficulty with because she was described in all ways as a very normal, caring, loving woman. And even in the days leading up to were some of the best days in terms of her looking normal. What this woman is describing is something that we're comfortable with assigning to crazy. For whatever reason, babe, we assume that people who are in psychosis, who are mentally unstable, behave a certain way, look a certain way, are identifiable even. She, is what we've known so far, Robes, is described as a woman who had all that stuff.
00:06:47
Speaker 3: Yes, and adding to that, there are some more details that came out in court today that absolutely fall.
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Speaker 2: In line with that.
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Speaker 3: The first responders say that she was yelling out the names of fruits. for whatever reason, and singing Follow the Yellow Brick Road, like, manically, incoherently.
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Speaker 2: And the only.
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Speaker 3: Other information that came out about her mental health today in the hearing was that she had recently been seeing a counselor, but had never previously, as far as anyone knew, displayed any signs of abuse towards her children or.
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Speaker 2: There were no other signs that something was amiss, something was wrong.
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Speaker 3: Bottom line, it seems like from this court hearing, no one had any warning signs ahead of time other than the few hours leading up to the murder where she was texting strange things about Patrick Clancy. Short of that, there was no information that there were warning signs or red flags or anything that signaled that someone, anyone should be concerned about her mental health.
00:07:49
Speaker 1: And from what you've seen so far, there is no.
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Speaker 1: Evidence of, or nobody's pointing to a history of mental health.
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Speaker 2: Not yet. Not yet.
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Speaker 3: Just that her attorneys are saying she was clearly in a state of psychosis when this all took place.
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Speaker 2: Look.
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Speaker 1: People are rolling their eyes immediately.
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Speaker 3: Exactly.
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Days and really already.
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Speaker 2: In the middle of the trial still.
00:08:13
Speaker 1: One or two out of a thousand women in pregnancies are diagnosed. They tell us with postpartum psychosis. So back to back. So we're just going to keep this going. I know, people, but robes. We say it's one or two out of a thousand. What if it's 50? What if it's 100?
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's pay attention. Should we not? I am not going to immediately be dismissive of this woman and what she's saying. Robes, coincidence. Crazy. This is all bananas now. But at what point do we take it a little more seriously, baby?
00:08:49
Speaker 2: It's frightening. I mean, I think we have to at least look at this with that.
00:08:54
Speaker 3: Yes, you want to have healthy skepticism. Obviously, that's going to be a part of this investigation. But I think we also have to hold space that this could have triggered something.
00:09:03
Speaker 2: This could have loosened something that was building. We don't know.
00:09:07
Speaker 3: We know that she had a number of drinks at home, and there were a number of prescription bottles.
00:09:11
Speaker 2: So we don't know what was in her system.
00:09:12
Speaker 1: Wait, what's the drinks bottle?
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Speaker 3: It just said drinks. So don't know if she was consuming alcohol, mixing it with prescription drugs, if that added to any of this. It's unclear, but we also know this came out pretty early on when this atrocity was described, that she immediately told police that she killed her two-year-old son because he was the devil and the antichrist. Okay. everything she said. So she says her son was the devil, the antichrist. She thinks she's murdered the rest of her children. She's trying to kill herself. She says she planned on poisoning her husband. She starts talking nonsense about the Lindsay Clancy trial. She's singing, follow the yellow brick road and screaming out names of fruits. But you know, the only silver lining in all of this is that she thought she had killed her other children according to police who were there on the scene thankfully she didn't she couldn't have killed her older children because they were in school and we don't know why we're grateful obviously that that infant was unharmed it's weird.
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Speaker 1: To target the two year old to target the two year old like The infant was more helpless than the two-year-old. The older ones, you guys, you do, Robes, think about that. We've covered how many stories of familicide here lately with guys wiping out entire families type things. Talk about families of five, six, seven, eight being taken out at a time. What is happening? Because we worried about that, Robes. We had a stretch of, is this one?
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Speaker 2: We did.
00:10:43
Speaker 1: Influencing the next one? If somebody's seeing that on the news and that encourages... Does it put something in people's heads?
00:10:48
Speaker 2: I do think there's something to that.
00:10:50
Speaker 1: Oh, man.
00:10:51
Speaker 2: I do. And maybe... Look, she could have been experiencing.
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Speaker 3: Or in the process of experiencing a psychotic break and hearing about this story, hearing the details about the story could have gotten into her head and gotten all mixed up in her head.
00:11:07
Speaker 2: And yes, I do.
00:11:09
Speaker 3: Leave space for the possibility that hearing about it, being exposed to it, talking about it.
00:11:15
Speaker 2: Thinking about it, creating theories around it.
00:11:18
Speaker 3: Could have added to something that was already happening inside her that unfortunately resulted in this horrific murder of her two-year-old.
00:11:27
Speaker 1: But babe, you know we were surprised at how little space people were willing to give Lindsay Clancy. Now this, there are some people that ain't trying to hear this at all. They don't want to, this is impossible that we have another one of these. Clearly this is just women killing their kids for whatever reason and trying to get away with it by claiming psychosis is roped. There is a strong contingent of people not want to hear anything else about Lindsay Clancy. What are they going to say about this?
00:11:58
Speaker 3: Well, and to your point, when we come back, we'll tell you what, what Corey Walsh's defense attorney has to say to those people. And there was another big moment today. Not only was Corey Walsh in, in court, but, her little two-year-old son was being laid to rest.
00:12:27
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ. You were asking me before the break.
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Speaker 3: What about all those people who were already so skeptical that Lindsay Clancy could possibly have been suffering from postpartum What in God's name are they going to say about this woman who suddenly has a similar episode right at the time the Lindsay Clancy trial headlines are reaching a fever pitch? That just sounds convenient and way too coincidental, right? Well, her attorney addressed this in court because obviously many, many, many, many people are saying that. And he said it's sickening. He said, mentions of Corey Walsh being a Lindsay Clancy copycat are sickening. Describing Corey as to have copied Lindsay is to take an easy bait. And he said, it's disgusting and far from the truth. So he claims she was severely mentally ill at the time of incident. And yes, they said that she was diagnosed with, and you mentioned this, grief psychotic disorder.
00:13:34
Speaker 1: So.
00:13:35
Speaker 2: They're trying... Why.
00:13:36
Speaker 1: Would she have it? By the way, what grief?
00:13:38
Speaker 3: So, according to the National Library of Medicine, bereavement may lead to heterogeneous psychological responses, including prolonged grief disorder, depression, and psychotic-like experiences.
00:13:53
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:13:55
Speaker 2: So, unclear.
00:13:57
Speaker 1: We're going to learn about something new, I guess, at trial.
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Speaker 3: Unclear if this grief psychotic disorder was that she was grieving.
00:14:05
Speaker 3: The loss of Lindsay Clancy's children and somehow it morphed into her own psychotic disorder. It really is confusing. And yes, they're saying that her mental health was assessed at the hospital and and that doctors agreed with her defense attorneys that she does need treatment, but she is not going to be getting it.
00:14:27
Speaker 2: She is going to stay behind bars.
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Speaker 3: Until at least her next court appearance, which is set for September 24th. So in a couple of weeks, but she is staying behind bars. In the meantime, she's in court facing three counts of first-degree murder.
00:14:42
Speaker 2: We can explain that. It's a little confusing.
00:14:43
Speaker 1: It's quite confusing.
00:14:44
Speaker 2: I actually have that.
00:14:46
Speaker 3: The reason why they've charged her with three counts of first-degree murder is they actually are setting up three potential theories that they are willing to potentially prove if this goes to trial.
00:14:55
Speaker 1: It's just interesting how they chose to do this.
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Speaker 3: Right?
00:15:00
Speaker 1: Illinois.
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Speaker 2: This is Illinois.
00:15:02
Speaker 1: We follow so many states and so many crimes. They're so different in how they handle similar cases.
00:15:08
Speaker 2: It's true.
00:15:08
Speaker 1: But, yeah, this was bizarre. She killed one kid, and she's charged with three counts of murder.
00:15:13
Speaker 2: It doesn't make a lot of sense.
00:15:14
Speaker 3: The first is because they're going to prove she killed her son with the intent to kill or do great bodily harm. The second charge is that they'll prove she killed her son knowing that such an act would cause death. And the third charge is they'll prove she killed her son knowing such an act created a strong probability of death or great bodily harm. It almost sounds like they're willing to try three different tactics and see which one sticks with a jury or with a judge, right? So ultimately, obviously she killed one child but i'm not sure they're just i guess hedging their bets or trying it from different angles this is how our legal system works or at least how it does in the state of illinois but while she is in this hearing the funeral for barrett and this is just sad to know his nickname was bear but yeah it does so little bear two-year-old bear was literally being laid to rest today, Tuesday. His funeral was today while she, his mother, was in court facing first-degree murder charges.
00:16:18
Speaker 1: Do you understand why anybody would say anything? I guess I see both sides. There's some people, monster, I don't want to hear the next sentence after a mother kills her two-year-old. There's nothing else to talk about. I don't want to hear it. I guess I can understand why some people are in that camp. I just, I don't know who to, where to go with it, baby. And How much do we need to understand and learn and be compassionate for somebody who killed a two-year-old? That is a tall order, baby.
00:16:43
Speaker 3: I think we need to be willing to listen and learn and not that they shouldn't be. Look, I don't think anyone is going to rush to judgment and say she shouldn't be behind bars. Look, I think especially if you have a woman who thought she already killed her other kids might be very violently surprised to find out she didn't or might get into some sort of continuous psychotic experience or Get back into one if she sees them. You would never want to expose her surviving children to her. And certainly if she's told police she had plans to kill her husband and said how she was going to do it, yeah, you probably want to keep her far away from everyone.
00:17:23
Speaker 1: Why should she just not be in prison for the rest of her life and that not be the end of it? The next part, mercy, grace, compassion, understanding is difficult, baby. We are losing children. Kids are dying at a weird clip at the hands of their parents this year, baby.
00:17:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we need to understand why.
00:17:40
Speaker 1: Baby, something's going on.
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Speaker 2: We do.
00:17:43
Speaker 1: Sweetheart, this is the new thing. Let's hope not. Is it us? We got to back off. This summer's been tough. Okay, it's been a tough summer.
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Speaker 2: This summer's been tough.
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Speaker 1: This is awful. And I'm starting to piece together because we're doing the familicide thing, but Robes, the number of kids who are dying at the hands of their parents this year. What is happening?
00:18:03
Speaker 3: It's insane.
00:18:04
Speaker 1: It's awful.
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Speaker 2: It's unnatural.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, we need to understand why. And this is for right now. Look, we know things can change. We know that Patrick stood by Lindsay. Obviously, he divorced her, but he has stood by her from a legal standpoint. And right now, Corey Walsh's husband and her mother, they weren't in court because they were at Little Bear's funeral. But officials have said that both her husband and her mother have unwavering love and support for her and have been fully cooperating with police and social workers.
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Speaker 2: The guy she.
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Speaker 1: Was going to poison is fully cooperating.
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Speaker 2: I will listen.
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Speaker 1: I will pay attention. I got to hear, baby. What are we doing? So at some point, do we not have to just say, hey, we got to put people in prison who killed their kids? I don't want to hear anything else.
00:18:52
Speaker 3: I think that obviously is where she is right now. I think most people would believe that's where she belongs right now because she actually seems as though she is a danger to herself and others.
00:19:04
Speaker 1: Criminal responsibility. Oh, my God. And doesn't she have the lawyer from Casey Anthony?
00:19:11
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:19:11
Speaker 1: Yeah. She has a Casey Anthony. One of the people who was on the case for Casey Anthony is representing Corey Walsh. Jesus.
00:19:20
Speaker 2: You can't make it up.
00:19:22
Speaker 3: I'm sure if this thing ends up going to trial, we'll probably see some of the same forensic psychiatrists.
00:19:28
Speaker 2: That we saw in the Lindsay.
00:19:29
Speaker 1: Clancy case as well. Because there's only two in the country and they don't agree.
00:19:32
Speaker 2: Apparently, yes.
00:19:34
Speaker 3: So look, this story is just beginning. And again, this is the exact one week anniversary of the death, of the murder of little Barrett Walsh.
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Speaker 2: And he was, again, laid to rest today.
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Speaker 3: His mom will stay behind bars until a couple weeks from now we will stay on top of this story because yes we do need to understand what the heck is going on and with that everyone we always appreciate you listening to us I'm Amy Robach alongside DJ Holmes we will talk to you soon
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Tuesday, September 8th, and a woman that police say was invested in the Lindsay Clancy trial has been charged with killing her two-year-old child. She just made a court appearance, and we have learned that she was hoping to do much more damage to her family. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ, a case robes that has a bunch of similarities, echoes of the Lindsay Clancy case. But what in God's name are we about to do with this one now? Because we are learning some much more disturbing details of an already disturbing case.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 3: 40-year-old Corey Walsh, mom of four, made her first court appearance after, yes, her own children.
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Speaker 2: A neighbor, and then police.
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Speaker 3: discovered another horrific unthinkable tragedy her two-year-old toddler hanging from the rafter of her basement she was found in the bathtub fully clothed in bloody water seemingly trying to kill herself with a knife sound familiar a dead child in the basement a woman trying to kill herself with a knife in the aftermath.
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Speaker 1: Kids strangled even right uh strangled the kid was strangled hanging from So, obviously, Robes, people made, you know, even if before you heard some of the details the police gave us, the parallels were already being made. But on top of that, police did add to it and say this woman was someone who. The word they use is invested.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: In the Lindsay Clancy trial.
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Speaker 3: I believe her attorney even used the word fascinated by the Lindsay Clancy trial. And yes, the jury was out in the middle of deliberations when the murder actually happened.
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Speaker 2: But we're starting to get some new information.
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Speaker 3: Even more chilling details because, yes, she was in court today, and this is the big headline. The judge in this case denied her attorney's request for a release.
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Speaker 2: They want her in a mental facility.
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Speaker 3: They want her being treated for what they say is postpartum psychosis.
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Speaker 1: They're using that exact phrase?
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Her attorneys want her to be in inpatient medical care, but the judge denied the request for that because the judge said there are compelling reasons reasons to continue Corey Walsh's detainment, namely that she poses a risk to her remaining children and her husband.
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Speaker 1: Wait, but the defense was arguing... For her to be relieved, but to a facility. They weren't saying let her go home, were they?
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Speaker 2: But still, if you're in.
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Speaker 3: A facility, you're not in the same type of restraints or detainment that you would be if you were in a prison. And so, yes, I guess there's still the thought, what if her children came to visit? What if her husband came to visit? What if anyone came to visit her?
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Speaker 1: Is she.
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Speaker 3: capable of being trusted. And the judge said she needs to be behind bars for safety reasons.
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Speaker 1: And you mentioned the husband. Is that the highlight? I guess that's jump off the page type information. And we just got this. It was a short time ago. She was in a court hearing for the first time. Corey Walsh, again, charged with killing her two-year-old child. This was last week that this took place. Now, it was her first court appearance today. We're learning now and the part that jumps off the page, she was hoping to do more damage potentially to the family.
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Speaker 2: Correct.
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Speaker 3: So this all came out in the hearing today, but prosecutors say that Corey Walsh discussed with police planning to poison her husband with a drink when he came home, and they claim she believed that she had killed her other children. So initially she had said she had drowned the infant, which, by the way, they found the infant on the ground floor in the floor of a room completely unsupervised. And the two older children were at school when this was all taking place to unfortunately come home and walk into the aftermath of all of this.
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Speaker 2: But she believed, according.
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Speaker 3: To prosecutors, that she had already killed her other children and she was planning to poison her husband with a drink.
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Speaker 1: Yes, the question arose there. And again, I'm thinking about the Lindsay Clancy case. Why leave the infant alone? And alive and okay.
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Speaker 2: Her attorneys say.
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Speaker 3: She was in a state of psychosis that unfortunately coincided with the Lindsay Clancy trial, but just speaking to her level of psychosis, she wasn't even clear what was real and what was not, what she had done and what she hadn't done or what she was planning to do. And look, some of those witnesses, we also heard that she had been actively texting some of her friends in a group chat about the Lindsay Clancy trial. Well, some of those friends have provided some more information saying they noticed... unusual behavior from her in those text messages they say they described her messaging as confusing and out of character her friend said that cory walsh believed patrick clancy killed the children and was writing to them in this group chat that it was manslaughter please help i'm really freaking out like she was taking it personally and acting as if there was some threat and she was of the belief that Patrick Clancy is the one who killed the kids. So they said she started talking or texting in a way that was out of character, and they were concerned something was wrong. The neighbor who found her described her as having dilated eyes and a weird giggle. Even the paramedics who came on the scene described her as.
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Speaker 2: What was the word they used? I want to make sure I get it right.
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Speaker 3: They claimed that she was basically out of control. So everyone's describing that she was behaving strangely and oddly when they found her.
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Speaker 2: Incoherent is the word they used.
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Speaker 1: Here is the thing, Ropes, and since Lindsay Clancy's name has come up plenty, there was part of that people had difficulty with because she was described in all ways as a very normal, caring, loving woman. And even in the days leading up to were some of the best days in terms of her looking normal. What this woman is describing is something that we're comfortable with assigning to crazy. For whatever reason, babe, we assume that people who are in psychosis, who are mentally unstable, behave a certain way, look a certain way, are identifiable even. She, is what we've known so far, Robes, is described as a woman who had all that stuff.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and adding to that, there are some more details that came out in court today that absolutely fall.
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Speaker 2: In line with that.
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Speaker 3: The first responders say that she was yelling out the names of fruits. for whatever reason, and singing Follow the Yellow Brick Road, like, manically, incoherently.
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Speaker 2: And the only.
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Speaker 3: Other information that came out about her mental health today in the hearing was that she had recently been seeing a counselor, but had never previously, as far as anyone knew, displayed any signs of abuse towards her children or.
00:07:22
Speaker 2: There were no other signs that something was amiss, something was wrong.
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Speaker 3: Bottom line, it seems like from this court hearing, no one had any warning signs ahead of time other than the few hours leading up to the murder where she was texting strange things about Patrick Clancy. Short of that, there was no information that there were warning signs or red flags or anything that signaled that someone, anyone should be concerned about her mental health.
00:07:49
Speaker 1: And from what you've seen so far, there is no.
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Speaker 1: Evidence of, or nobody's pointing to a history of mental health.
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Speaker 2: Not yet. Not yet.
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Speaker 3: Just that her attorneys are saying she was clearly in a state of psychosis when this all took place.
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Speaker 2: Look.
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Speaker 1: People are rolling their eyes immediately.
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Speaker 3: Exactly.
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Days and really already.
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Speaker 2: In the middle of the trial still.
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Speaker 1: One or two out of a thousand women in pregnancies are diagnosed. They tell us with postpartum psychosis. So back to back. So we're just going to keep this going. I know, people, but robes. We say it's one or two out of a thousand. What if it's 50? What if it's 100?
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's pay attention. Should we not? I am not going to immediately be dismissive of this woman and what she's saying. Robes, coincidence. Crazy. This is all bananas now. But at what point do we take it a little more seriously, baby?
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Speaker 2: It's frightening. I mean, I think we have to at least look at this with that.
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Speaker 3: Yes, you want to have healthy skepticism. Obviously, that's going to be a part of this investigation. But I think we also have to hold space that this could have triggered something.
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Speaker 2: This could have loosened something that was building. We don't know.
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Speaker 3: We know that she had a number of drinks at home, and there were a number of prescription bottles.
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Speaker 2: So we don't know what was in her system.
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Speaker 1: Wait, what's the drinks bottle?
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Speaker 3: It just said drinks. So don't know if she was consuming alcohol, mixing it with prescription drugs, if that added to any of this. It's unclear, but we also know this came out pretty early on when this atrocity was described, that she immediately told police that she killed her two-year-old son because he was the devil and the antichrist. Okay. everything she said. So she says her son was the devil, the antichrist. She thinks she's murdered the rest of her children. She's trying to kill herself. She says she planned on poisoning her husband. She starts talking nonsense about the Lindsay Clancy trial. She's singing, follow the yellow brick road and screaming out names of fruits. But you know, the only silver lining in all of this is that she thought she had killed her other children according to police who were there on the scene thankfully she didn't she couldn't have killed her older children because they were in school and we don't know why we're grateful obviously that that infant was unharmed it's weird.
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Speaker 1: To target the two year old to target the two year old like The infant was more helpless than the two-year-old. The older ones, you guys, you do, Robes, think about that. We've covered how many stories of familicide here lately with guys wiping out entire families type things. Talk about families of five, six, seven, eight being taken out at a time. What is happening? Because we worried about that, Robes. We had a stretch of, is this one?
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Speaker 2: We did.
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Speaker 1: Influencing the next one? If somebody's seeing that on the news and that encourages... Does it put something in people's heads?
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Speaker 2: I do think there's something to that.
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Speaker 1: Oh, man.
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Speaker 2: I do. And maybe... Look, she could have been experiencing.
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Speaker 3: Or in the process of experiencing a psychotic break and hearing about this story, hearing the details about the story could have gotten into her head and gotten all mixed up in her head.
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Speaker 2: And yes, I do.
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Speaker 3: Leave space for the possibility that hearing about it, being exposed to it, talking about it.
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Speaker 2: Thinking about it, creating theories around it.
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Speaker 3: Could have added to something that was already happening inside her that unfortunately resulted in this horrific murder of her two-year-old.
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Speaker 1: But babe, you know we were surprised at how little space people were willing to give Lindsay Clancy. Now this, there are some people that ain't trying to hear this at all. They don't want to, this is impossible that we have another one of these. Clearly this is just women killing their kids for whatever reason and trying to get away with it by claiming psychosis is roped. There is a strong contingent of people not want to hear anything else about Lindsay Clancy. What are they going to say about this?
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Speaker 3: Well, and to your point, when we come back, we'll tell you what, what Corey Walsh's defense attorney has to say to those people. And there was another big moment today. Not only was Corey Walsh in, in court, but, her little two-year-old son was being laid to rest.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ. You were asking me before the break.
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Speaker 3: What about all those people who were already so skeptical that Lindsay Clancy could possibly have been suffering from postpartum What in God's name are they going to say about this woman who suddenly has a similar episode right at the time the Lindsay Clancy trial headlines are reaching a fever pitch? That just sounds convenient and way too coincidental, right? Well, her attorney addressed this in court because obviously many, many, many, many people are saying that. And he said it's sickening. He said, mentions of Corey Walsh being a Lindsay Clancy copycat are sickening. Describing Corey as to have copied Lindsay is to take an easy bait. And he said, it's disgusting and far from the truth. So he claims she was severely mentally ill at the time of incident. And yes, they said that she was diagnosed with, and you mentioned this, grief psychotic disorder.
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Speaker 1: So.
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Speaker 2: They're trying... Why.
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Speaker 1: Would she have it? By the way, what grief?
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Speaker 3: So, according to the National Library of Medicine, bereavement may lead to heterogeneous psychological responses, including prolonged grief disorder, depression, and psychotic-like experiences.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: So, unclear.
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Speaker 1: We're going to learn about something new, I guess, at trial.
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Speaker 3: Unclear if this grief psychotic disorder was that she was grieving.
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Speaker 3: The loss of Lindsay Clancy's children and somehow it morphed into her own psychotic disorder. It really is confusing. And yes, they're saying that her mental health was assessed at the hospital and and that doctors agreed with her defense attorneys that she does need treatment, but she is not going to be getting it.
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Speaker 2: She is going to stay behind bars.
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Speaker 3: Until at least her next court appearance, which is set for September 24th. So in a couple of weeks, but she is staying behind bars. In the meantime, she's in court facing three counts of first-degree murder.
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Speaker 2: We can explain that. It's a little confusing.
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Speaker 1: It's quite confusing.
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Speaker 2: I actually have that.
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Speaker 3: The reason why they've charged her with three counts of first-degree murder is they actually are setting up three potential theories that they are willing to potentially prove if this goes to trial.
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Speaker 1: It's just interesting how they chose to do this.
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 1: Illinois.
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Speaker 2: This is Illinois.
00:15:02
Speaker 1: We follow so many states and so many crimes. They're so different in how they handle similar cases.
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Speaker 2: It's true.
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Speaker 1: But, yeah, this was bizarre. She killed one kid, and she's charged with three counts of murder.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Speaker 3: The first is because they're going to prove she killed her son with the intent to kill or do great bodily harm. The second charge is that they'll prove she killed her son knowing that such an act would cause death. And the third charge is they'll prove she killed her son knowing such an act created a strong probability of death or great bodily harm. It almost sounds like they're willing to try three different tactics and see which one sticks with a jury or with a judge, right? So ultimately, obviously she killed one child but i'm not sure they're just i guess hedging their bets or trying it from different angles this is how our legal system works or at least how it does in the state of illinois but while she is in this hearing the funeral for barrett and this is just sad to know his nickname was bear but yeah it does so little bear two-year-old bear was literally being laid to rest today, Tuesday. His funeral was today while she, his mother, was in court facing first-degree murder charges.
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Speaker 1: Do you understand why anybody would say anything? I guess I see both sides. There's some people, monster, I don't want to hear the next sentence after a mother kills her two-year-old. There's nothing else to talk about. I don't want to hear it. I guess I can understand why some people are in that camp. I just, I don't know who to, where to go with it, baby. And How much do we need to understand and learn and be compassionate for somebody who killed a two-year-old? That is a tall order, baby.
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Speaker 3: I think we need to be willing to listen and learn and not that they shouldn't be. Look, I don't think anyone is going to rush to judgment and say she shouldn't be behind bars. Look, I think especially if you have a woman who thought she already killed her other kids might be very violently surprised to find out she didn't or might get into some sort of continuous psychotic experience or Get back into one if she sees them. You would never want to expose her surviving children to her. And certainly if she's told police she had plans to kill her husband and said how she was going to do it, yeah, you probably want to keep her far away from everyone.
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Speaker 1: Why should she just not be in prison for the rest of her life and that not be the end of it? The next part, mercy, grace, compassion, understanding is difficult, baby. We are losing children. Kids are dying at a weird clip at the hands of their parents this year, baby.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we need to understand why.
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Speaker 1: Baby, something's going on.
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Speaker 2: We do.
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Speaker 1: Sweetheart, this is the new thing. Let's hope not. Is it us? We got to back off. This summer's been tough. Okay, it's been a tough summer.
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Speaker 2: This summer's been tough.
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Speaker 1: This is awful. And I'm starting to piece together because we're doing the familicide thing, but Robes, the number of kids who are dying at the hands of their parents this year. What is happening?
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Speaker 3: It's insane.
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Speaker 1: It's awful.
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Speaker 2: It's unnatural.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, we need to understand why. And this is for right now. Look, we know things can change. We know that Patrick stood by Lindsay. Obviously, he divorced her, but he has stood by her from a legal standpoint. And right now, Corey Walsh's husband and her mother, they weren't in court because they were at Little Bear's funeral. But officials have said that both her husband and her mother have unwavering love and support for her and have been fully cooperating with police and social workers.
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Speaker 2: The guy she.
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Speaker 1: Was going to poison is fully cooperating.
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Speaker 2: I will listen.
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Speaker 1: I will pay attention. I got to hear, baby. What are we doing? So at some point, do we not have to just say, hey, we got to put people in prison who killed their kids? I don't want to hear anything else.
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Speaker 3: I think that obviously is where she is right now. I think most people would believe that's where she belongs right now because she actually seems as though she is a danger to herself and others.
00:19:04
Speaker 1: Criminal responsibility. Oh, my God. And doesn't she have the lawyer from Casey Anthony?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
00:19:11
Speaker 1: Yeah. She has a Casey Anthony. One of the people who was on the case for Casey Anthony is representing Corey Walsh. Jesus.
00:19:20
Speaker 2: You can't make it up.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure if this thing ends up going to trial, we'll probably see some of the same forensic psychiatrists.
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Speaker 2: That we saw in the Lindsay.
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Speaker 1: Clancy case as well. Because there's only two in the country and they don't agree.
00:19:32
Speaker 2: Apparently, yes.
00:19:34
Speaker 3: So look, this story is just beginning. And again, this is the exact one week anniversary of the death, of the murder of little Barrett Walsh.
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Speaker 2: And he was, again, laid to rest today.
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Speaker 3: His mom will stay behind bars until a couple weeks from now we will stay on top of this story because yes we do need to understand what the heck is going on and with that everyone we always appreciate you listening to us I'm Amy Robach alongside DJ Holmes we will talk to you soon