Dec. 17, 2025

Morning Run: Murdered MIT Professor, Nick Reiner Charged, Brown Manhunt Continues, Razors Blades In Bread, Vanity Fair Closeups and Don Jr Engaged

Morning Run: Murdered MIT Professor, Nick Reiner Charged, Brown Manhunt Continues, Razors Blades In Bread, Vanity Fair Closeups and Don Jr Engaged

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Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Good morning everyone, Thanks for joining us for today's Morning Run. It's Wednesday, December seventeenth.

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Speaker 3: I'm Amy Roe Fox and I'm TJ Holmes.

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Speaker 4: Eight days, eight days of Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can I actually can't believe it's December seventeenth. Yeah, it has flown by because every waking second we're not working, we're buying gifts and so i'me just lies when you're busy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, hope everybody out there you're doing okay. And the gift buying is wrapping up.

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Speaker 4: We told you yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The deadlines they're getting a little tighter and it's getting more expensive to have to send stuff. So hope it's going well. But this is when it gets stressful. I felt myself stressful in the kitchen making breakfast this morning. I felt pressure and weight and time started to get heavy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we ordered.

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Speaker 2: I ordered I think my final presence yesterday, and I have some coming on Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 3: I cut it very close.

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Speaker 1: You know this has failed in the past. I've seen this happen I now before. All right, we'll keep you posted. Also, it doesn't matter if the gift gets there or not if you win Powerball. That drawing is tonight. Those numbers are enormous. We've been talking about that. It seems like every day. We'll talk about that some more and Robes the story that scared the absolute hell out of me today, a woman is arrested in the South for putting razor blades in loaves of bread that unsuspecting shoppers bought.

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Speaker 2: I had to read that and then reread it, and the charge that she was giving is an interesting one, very interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we will tell you what's going on there and where exactly that is happening. Also, as a reminder that Apple Podcast app on our show page top right corner. Little button sets follow click that you can subscribe and always make sure you get our updates during the day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it has been such a busy news cycle. We've had lots of updates and on the run this morning you'll see how incredible the news cycle is. We've got a delay now in the Brian Walsh sentencing. The DA is announcing those charges against Rob reiner Son fifty nine charges against the Bondai Beach a Q killer.

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Speaker 3: There's a murdered.

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Speaker 2: MIT professor and another doctor sentenced in Matthew Perry's death and the Maanngioni pretrial hearings are finally wrapping up.

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Speaker 1: Plus unemployment is up. Don Junior is engaged. Don Senior is addressing the nation tonight. Meanwhile, the White House was apparently not ready for its close up. If you haven't seen this, that vanity fair thing has just gone and gangbusters with those interviews. A lot of the content being talked about, but robes also the pictures, the portraits.

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Speaker 2: You say the White House wasn't ready. I wasn't ready for those close ups. I didn't need to see anything that close up.

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Speaker 1: It's art, it's the photographer has a certain way he does things. But yes, we'll get into all of that back and forth where we have to begin with what's going on at Brown University.

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Speaker 4: A manhunt is still underway. What is this now?

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Speaker 1: Fourth full day. They still haven't caught this guy, and folks, it's come down to this now. They're asking for help robes from the public, even if you can recognize his walking gate tark.

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Speaker 4: That is where they are. They are desperate for leads about this guy.

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Speaker 3: That is tough.

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Speaker 2: As this search, this desperate search continues. Police are now yes, pleading with the public for help. They released more videos of the suspect yesterday that they hope will help someone out there identify who this person is.

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Speaker 1: And remember that first video after the shooting over the weekend just showed him kind of turning around a corner on the side wall. From the back, everything looked dark. They have now pieced together kind of a timeline of this guy from all those home those door camps. Isn't that amazing? Wow, cameras are everywhere. They are so in the neighborhoods. They see this guy walking. This is the scary part. For whatever reason, he was in the neighborhood starting at ten am. Wow, the shooting was at four.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, that's scary. Just maybe scoping out.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly what they said.

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Speaker 3: The when, where, and who they.

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Speaker 1: Say he was casing the joint is the word they use. They keep talking about him not being necessarily a healthy killer in that they keep saying he's stocky, he's a little overweight, his pudgy.

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Speaker 2: And he slowly walked away from that crime scene. He did not seem like he was in a hurry. He was calm, cool, and apparently has an affected walk.

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Speaker 1: There's even a shot of him walking past a police cruiser with lights on, like he's just think he's that close. They were that close, but they're asking for help. And again if you recognize how he's walking, even they're asking for your help. A reminder, two killed, nine injured in that shooting. Still not a motive that they're floating out.

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Speaker 2: There and next up on the run nearby. Another homicide investigation is underway, this time at MIT after a renowned professor there was found dead at his home of apparent gunshot wounds.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is new, No fg Lorero is the name, forty seven year old professor there, a theoretical physicist and fusion scientist.

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Speaker 4: What else would you expect it MIT? Right?

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Speaker 1: But yes, this guy forty seven, pretty young guy. But he was declared dead yesterday at the hospital. The shooting was the day before. They said a parent gunshot wounds initially. But yes, a homicide investigation is now officially underway and they say they do not have suspects.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they thought it was worth pointing out police so that there's no reason to believe there's any connection to the shooting at Brown University. This is about fifty miles from where that mass shooting took place. This is a strange one though this professor was honored by President Biden. He is he hails from Portugal. A neighbor said he has a young family. So this is just a strange, bizarre turn of events that is truly a mystery right.

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Speaker 1: Now, but worth noting. Yes, fifty miles away from another. I mean, these are two of the most elite universities in this country.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing.

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Speaker 3: A very good point.

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Speaker 1: Fifty miles apart this happened, but they say no connection at this point. Continuing on the run now, the son of Robin Michelle Reiner is being charged with two counts of first degree murder. We got word of that yesterday from the DA finally confirmed some details as the first I guess we'd officially heard from officials about it, but said yes, a knife was used in these murders. But Nick Reiner, thirty two years old, now facing two counts of first degree murder and robes. There was a lot of back and forth and uncertainty because some folks were reporting he was scheduled to be in court yesterday at a thirty. He did not appear in court. His attorney appeared for him, and Robes are now saying we don't know when we might see him because he hasn't been clear to even show up in court medically.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he has not been cleared. Yeah, we were exchanging back and forth, people saying he was going to be there, people saying he wasn't going to be there. And now apparently the DA is weighing whether or not to pursue life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalties. So there are you know, there's some information that we are still waiting on, but.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about there's plenty here. But he said he is going to consider the family's wishes in whether or not to pursue the death penalty.

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Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense, especially in this case. All right, Next up on the run, the suspect in the Bandai Beach mass shooting woke up from Acoma yesterday and was greeted by fifty nine charges against him. We're talking about twenty four year old Navide Akram. He was shot by police. His fifty year old father was also was the second shooter in the mass murders. His dad was killed in the shootout, but fifteen counts of murder. He's also facing attempted murder and terrorism charges. Yeah, he is going away for the rest of his life.

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Speaker 1: All right, continuing on the run here now. Sentencing day for Brian Walsh was supposed to be today. It's now been pushed back. You remember, this is the guy found guilty, the Massachusetts man found guilty of first degree murder and the death of his wife, Anna Walsh. He maintained, of course, that he didn't kill her, but rather found her dead, panicked and dismembered and disposed of her body. The jury obviously didn't buy that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so his sentencing was scheduled for today, but it's now been moved to tomorrow. And it's not as if we're waiting at the edge of our seat or on pins and needles. We know what his sentence is going to be. His conviction carries a mandatory sentence of life without parole. The big part of this sentencing hearing will be the victim impact statements. That judge made it clear she really wanted to hear those before formally issuing his sentence, and so she wanted to make sure the timing was best suited for those impacts. Dames.

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Speaker 1: You know we should mention we're not lawyers. That's while we talked to lawyers. He's pled guilty to the other charges of dismembering her body and lying to police. He's going to be sentenced on those, But a lawyer explained to us, yes, he's getting life in prison, but it's important to make sure you sentence him on this stuff because what if that verdict gets thrown out or reversed in some way, you still want to make sure he's in jail. So that's why it's a really good point. It's still and we didn't know, but a lawyer, Alison Triesel, who's been helping us along in the case, she explained that to us yesterday. Continuing here on the run, more court cases here. Next up, the critical pre trial hearings in the Luigi Manngioni murder case continues, and the Jude said yesterday that he hopes finally to wrap this up by tomorrow. Remember it started at the beginning of last week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this has gone on longer than a lot of murder trials have taken place, right almost the walls right, it's.

00:08:57
Speaker 3: Gone on just as long.

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Speaker 2: They've been fighting over what evidence will be used in his actual trial. His lawyers are arguing that everything found on him during his initial arrest in Pennsylvania should be thrown out, and we are expecting a ruling from the judge next month. So after the holidays, I continue on the run here.

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Speaker 1: Now, a second doctor has been sentenced in the overdose death of actor Matthew Perry. But this doctor is going to avoid jail time. We're talking about doctor Mark Chavez. He is going to get eight months of home confinement. I think he's doing some public service and he's also having to do I guess he's going to be monitored for three years afterwards. Point being, he's not going to jail.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So he pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to distribute ketamine, but Chaves sold ketamine illegally to another doctor. That doctor then supplied the drugs to Perry, and that other doctor was sentenced to thirty months behind bars.

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Speaker 3: So he is going to prison.

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Speaker 2: So a total of five people pleaded guilty in this case around in Matthew Perry's death who he died back in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: I'll continue on the run. The story we mentioned at the top, and it immediately automatically gets your attention. We've had stories like this. I guess over the years. Was itailand All back in the people We're putting something in tilen All bottles. This was years and years and decades ago. But this is one of those types of scares, not that wide scale yet, but the idea of this and why anybody would do this as beyond well.

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Speaker 2: This was an urban legend for a long time about Halloween candy where people remember you could go get your candy scanned at places after you went trick or treating because people said that evil folks were putting razor blades in candy. There was never actually a known case of it, but here we go. A woman in Mississippi is now facing charges for allegedly putting razor blades in loaves of bread at the grocery store. This happened in Biloxi, Mississippi, at two separate Walmart stores. The customer reported finding the razor blades on December fifth, Then another customer reported finding razor blades on December eighth, and that is when the employees looked into it and found several more loaves of bread that were right there on store shelves with razors in I should say, and I'm surprised there are not any reports.

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Speaker 1: I saw people being injured, like they caught this before you've bit into. But the woman's name is Kamille Benson. She's been arrested, thirty three years old. Again, this is the Mississippi. They say she's from Texas. Charge attempt at mayhem is the charge that she's facing. Bond is at one hundred thousand dollars. This is a scary one to figure out why she's doing why possibly anybody would do this.

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Speaker 4: How much more is out there?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's scary to even report on it.

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Speaker 2: I know we have to because it's important for people to know, but it also just scares me about copycats and people who are crazy and do insane things like this for what reason. I guess you can't charge her with attempted murder. You can't no one injured, So I guess that's the charge. A huh, All right, next up on the run. We should put this on your radar everyone. There is another move that is furthering tensions between the United States and Venezuela. President Trump says he has ordered a blockade of all sanctioned oil tankers entering and leaving Venezuela. It's meant to put financial pressure on Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro.

00:12:26
Speaker 1: Who he's made pretty clear he doesn't want him to continue.

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Speaker 4: In office there.

00:12:32
Speaker 2: You would like him to leave, be ousted, or just somehow not be a president anymore.

00:12:36
Speaker 4: So this is another move by the president. But this continues to ramp things up.

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Speaker 1: But he claims, the president that the oil revenue is being used by Marduro to finance illegal operations. So this you put some financial strain on. This is certainly escalated things.

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Speaker 2: But there are a lot of folks out there who say blockades are an act of war, and so in terms of escalating tensions, this is a significant move in that direction.

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Speaker 1: We've been blowing Venezuelan boats out of the water for the last couple of months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's escalating, if that's possible.

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Speaker 3: Yes, all right. Next up on the run, some discouraging and.

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Speaker 2: Late job numbers came out yesterday. The US economy added sixty four thousand jobs in November, but we learned there was a loss of one hundred and five thousand jobs in October. So the unemployment rate now stands at four point six percent. That is the highest unemployment rate since September of twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, folks, stay with us here on this Wednesday morning run. When we come back, the President wants to talk to you tonight. Also, could there be a White House wedding coming after we got an announcement about a new engagement and the White House and the chief staff members they apparently were not ready for that close up. Continue on this Snesday morning run now, and President Trump will address the nation tonight nine o'clock Eastern, going to talk about what he's accomplished this first year and what he wants to do the rest of his term.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so he put out a social media teaser he is his own PR company, which said I look forward to seeing you then. It has been a great year for our country and the best is yet to come exclamation point.

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Speaker 3: Yes, nine pm Eastern.

00:14:24
Speaker 2: I saw something like I guess there's a big Survivor finale and that's now going to get preempted by President Trump and people are all up in arms about it. But yes, this was a surprise to the networks. No one knew this was coming. So, yes, there might have to be some adjustments in programming.

00:14:41
Speaker 4: Really, Survivor finale is kind of aig deal.

00:14:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they said, this is like a big problem. I don't know what they're going to do.

00:14:47
Speaker 1: As long as it doesn't interrupt Kim Kardashian's All's Fair on Hulu, I'll be fine continuing on the run here now. DC was all worked up yesterday, yes after a pretty remarkable Vanity Fair article dropped yesterday. Didn't know it was coming, but once it did, I think still this morning, Vanity Fair is trending, and this whole thing is trending at the top, and.

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Speaker 3: I can't unsee it. I really, it's two different ways.

00:15:11
Speaker 1: People look at the content and then some of the well photo.

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Speaker 2: You know, in a way it was brilliant because the photos make you want to read it because you can't believe. You're like, wait, why would they choose this artistic approach? All right, It's a two part profile of Susie Wiles. That's she's the powerful but almost always behind the scenes White House chief of Staff. She did eleven interviews with the reporter Chris Whipple about this first year of the Trump presidency.

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Speaker 3: And let's just say she was not tight lip. She let it. She let it roll.

00:15:47
Speaker 1: She seemed frank in some of the things, and it was surprising to hear people talk this way about President Trump in some way. Look, one thing is getting a lot of attention. She said that the president has an alcoholics personality. Now it's relevant because her dad was an alcoholic, famously, Pat summer All, famous NFL broadcaster.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and she's actually said to this.

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Speaker 1: Interview, look, there's I know how to handle big personalities and making comparisons. And she said this alcoholics personality. The president doesn't drink, by the way, these folks feel like there's nothing they can't do. And she made that comparison and it and you think about it and going, wow, that's interesting. But a lot of people took it as she shouldn't have said her or have taken out a context in some way, or meant to come off as some kind of a name.

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Speaker 3: And Trump wasn't upset about it.

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Speaker 2: He even said, look, and I think it's because he doesn't drink. And everyone knows he doesn't drink. There's no implication that he's somehow drinking on the job. So he was like, I've actually even I would agree with that. I do tend to, you know, act a certain way and stay up all night and act as if I can't do anything wrong, like he agreed with her and said I think I might have even said that once or twice.

00:16:53
Speaker 1: So you imagine if he was a drinker and he tweeted after drinking, Oh my god.

00:16:59
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine. And you know what it is, though.

00:17:01
Speaker 2: It's interesting because when people drink, you know, they say what sober thoughts are?

00:17:06
Speaker 3: Drunk talk is sober thoughts?

00:17:07
Speaker 2: Yes, So he he talks like nobody's listening, like he talks as if it doesn't.

00:17:13
Speaker 3: He doesn't carefully choose his words.

00:17:15
Speaker 2: He doesn't worry about what the impact is going to be or how somebody's going to feel. And that's a lot of times what people do when they're drunk. They say exactly what they think and they don't care who they heard. That's kind of how he operates.

00:17:27
Speaker 1: Maybe he would be the opposite if you drink, he would have sober tweets if he actually drank, What a fact.

00:17:34
Speaker 4: Would it have on him?

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Speaker 1: The other thing that came out in this article, which was interesting, she said the president was wrong about that, talking about anytime the president would reference Bill Clinton. Going to Epstein's Island. She said, there's no evidence of that. She said the president was wrong. A lot of people went, whoa nobody would say that to the president and certain Night Bubbly.

00:17:50
Speaker 2: You obviously can that's and he was very happy with her. He said, Wiles is doing a fantastic job in response to the article, and he just said, yes, this was a disingenuous reporter who took her comments out of contact.

00:18:01
Speaker 3: So that was their response. That's the response to most things.

00:18:04
Speaker 1: But I can believe you gave someone eleven interviews. Just what is this supposed to be a glowing I don't know what the problem was. But one of the biggest problem roads had to do with the pictures, the portraits that went along with it, of the senior staff of Carolyn Levitt, especially Carol Levitt in particular, is getting people are making fun. They are extreme close ups, folks. They're not just portraits. I mean you can't they're so close. You can't see hairlines essentially, just faces. Well, and you can see every blimp exist, but you can see every blemish on a face.

00:18:36
Speaker 4: And yes, I mean.

00:18:37
Speaker 2: Every poor on her skin. She's twenty eight years old, Thank goodness for that. But still, yes, a lot of people have made comments.

00:18:43
Speaker 1: Okay, but they got over that because there's something to celebrate at the White House these days. There's a new engagement. Don Junior is engaged. Yes, he's engaged to a woman who's I've only been seen described as a Florida socialite. Do you have any That's the only way I've seen her described. But this is but Tina Anderson, and this is the woman. Remember it was about a year ago he was photographed with a woman before it was announced that he had broken off his engagement to Kimberly Gilfoyle, so he got a lot of attention at the time. He's been dating for a year. They've been ount made her official. They are engaged.

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Speaker 2: Now, all right, congratulations to Don Junior and Betina. All right, maybe there will be another congratulate congratulations due after this evening because we have another powerball drawing tonight one point two five billion dollars.

00:19:30
Speaker 3: I've got the lottery take right, you can hear it right here.

00:19:33
Speaker 2: It's gonna stay with me, stay close because yeah, the cash pay out five hundred and seventy two point one million dollars.

00:19:40
Speaker 4: So good luck.

00:19:41
Speaker 1: I don't really mean it, but but good luck because it's it selfish. Everybody wants to win this thing. What would you do?

00:19:46
Speaker 4: I would go crazy for Christmas. I would give so many people to merry Christmas. It would be ridiculous.

00:19:50
Speaker 1: I would say, give me this cash immediately, because I would start sending it out and helping and just it's been a terrible time in a lot of ways for the country.

00:19:58
Speaker 3: And yeah, oh, it would be fun. We've even talked.

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Speaker 2: We were walking back and just like people who were unexpectedly kind or people who were cheered, You're like, wouldn't it be so fun to go back and just say here's a million dollars.

00:20:09
Speaker 4: Like just the woman in the grocery store.

00:20:10
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:20:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were actually so kind talking about how fun it would be to just and do it anonymously, but just give people who are unsung heroes, who make differences in people's lives in the smallest of ways but have the biggest impact.

00:20:24
Speaker 3: That would be a blast.

00:20:25
Speaker 1: All right, Well, before we let you go, something we want you to take with you. It is our quote of the day, a longer one, and it's for you and I love it. It's going to make you feel good. And this one is one of the weirder aspects of our culture, a heightened freneticism that seems to demand that we be doing at a minimum two or three things every single moment of every hour that we are awake. Why is multitasking considered an admirable talent? We could just as easily think of it as a neurotic inability to concentrate for more than three seconds. Bob Herbert, New York Times columnist. This is at least ten plus years old, but he wrote a column called tweet Less, kiss More, and he was making a point. He was in a car. He saw somebody watching a DV and on their phone while they're trying to drive, and you're like, what the hell are we doing? And just slow down and stop for a second. And we take so much pride in multitasking, don't we. I can do this, Yes, I can do this, I can do that.

00:21:23
Speaker 4: Yeah. You can do a lot of things. Can you do one of them? Well?

00:21:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you're doing all of those things at the same time, you're not doing any of them.

00:21:30
Speaker 3: As well as you could be doing. That is absolutely true. And you know what, when we started this.

00:21:34
Speaker 2: Episode this newscast, I talked about how time has flown. I actually feel like it was. It's still Thanksgiving, because as soon as Thanksgiving was over, it's just been non stop.

00:21:47
Speaker 3: In any free.

00:21:47
Speaker 2: Moment has been devoted to booking for basically presence and christmasing and travel, to the point where I don't remember December.

00:22:00
Speaker 3: I really don't.

00:22:01
Speaker 2: It's December seventeenth, so maybe the multitasking stops right now.

00:22:06
Speaker 4: There you go, folks, So thanks again. Bob Herber from The New York Times just call him.

00:22:09
Speaker 1: He wrote that stayed with me now for a decade at least, but he makes some great points. If you get a chance to look it up, I encourage you to read it. It's called kiss more tweet less or his tweet less kiss more. Can't remember which order that he put it in, but yes, a weird aspect of our culture, a heightened freneticism that seems to demand that we be doing two or three things every single moment. Multitasking. Why is it considered an admirable talent robes? Why do we'd find ourselves talented when it's just a neurotic inability to concentrate for more than a few seconds.

00:22:40
Speaker 4: I love how you.

00:22:41
Speaker 1: Put that, so thank you for that wherever you are, we appreciate you running with us as always, I'm Tjils and I'm Amy Roboch.

00:22:46
Speaker 3: We will run with you soon