Sept. 17, 2025
Morning Run: Charlie Kirk Suspect Charged, Luigi Mangione Charges Dropped, Trump in UK, Kash Patel Hearings, Mt. St. Helen NOT erupting and Beyoncé Music Still Missing
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Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ an iHeartRadio Podcast. Good morning everyone, Thanks for joining us for today's Morning Run. It is Wednesday, September seventeenth.
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Speaker 2: I'm Amy Robot and I'm TJ Holmes And did you hear? Did you see? My Saint Helen's is erupting? At least that's what it looks like. How can that not be an eruption if you haven't seen, it's certainly got people going, had airline pilots and a bit of a frenzy. Mount Saint Helen's looked like it was.
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Speaker 1: Erupting, looked like being the operative phrase. There is an actual explanation that is no cause for alarm.
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Speaker 2: And it was decades in the making. It's kind of an interesting store. We'll get into that. Also, the case of the missing Beyonce music. They have arrested the guy who stole her music. This was a big deal. Her unreleased There is unreleased Beyonce music out there and it was stolen. This was a big deal. But they caught the guy.
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Speaker 1: Now ropes Yeah, but unfortunately they don't have the music.
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Speaker 2: We'll explain what's going on here and what is going on there could be some unreleased Beyonce music floating around out there, So there is actually would you ransom it back? What would you do?
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Speaker 1: No? Right, you can't, you can't. That's giving in to terrorism, right, Like you.
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Speaker 2: Know, I'm saying as the criminal, would you ransom?
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Speaker 1: I mean, you could try, but it's gonna blow up in your face. There's no way you can avoid being caught doing that.
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Speaker 2: I will tell you what's happening, and I'll tell you what's happening in Hot Lanta. Also, Robert Redford, what's your favorite you have? What movie of his? I think a lot of people go back to his classics. I'm trying, I I am, this is not too classic. I guess indecent proposal. He was, he was.
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Speaker 1: He was amazing. You know, I haven't given thought to it the way we were with Barbaris Streisand I saw it once when I was younger. He was dashing, and I know, but people talk about Butch Cassidy and the Sun Dance Kid, all.
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Speaker 2: The President's Men. For me, all right, journalists, that movie was unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: But yes, that was amazing.
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Speaker 2: We're looking back. Yes, we got word early yesterday. In fact, we had just wrapped our morning run and we got word of his passing, so a lot of you of course been reflecting and talking about him throughout the day yesterday, but we're also going to give him a nod here on the morning run. Also heads up to you, as always subscribe top right corner of the screen, click that button that says follow on your Apple podcast app and you can get our updates anytime coming directly to you. Also in the run this morning, charges against the alleged Charlie Kirk assassin those have been announced. Also charges dropped against Luigi MANGIONI will explain Trump greeted by Epstein on his UK trip and robes what the hell with cash Patel? If you all didn't see this yesterday, I hope nobody used the word entertaining. This was embarrassing at times.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was I'm gonna say this in a nice way. He was feisty.
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Speaker 2: Hell, we don't want to just put it on him when we say embarrassing. It was an embarrassing event environment to see completely that are that a congression hearing about some of the most serious matters on the planet. Divulge into this. We'll get into that and why we could see more of the same today.
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Speaker 1: Yes, adults acting like children. More of that to come, but we begin our run in Utah and the alleged Charlie Kirkussasen made that first court appearance. It happened late yesterday. It was virtual, so he physically was not in the courtroom, but he sat alone in a room. There was a white cement wall behind him. He was wearing an oversized vest that looked like a flak jacket. Reportedly it was an anti suicide vest. We had questions about that because it seemed odd that he would need a bulletproof vest or something in a room by himself. But now it's an anti suicide vest.
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Speaker 2: You made that point yesterday, but looking at it for the naked eye, looked like nothing but a flag jacket to me. But yeah, why would he? So they explain now that I mean because some of the reports that came out from the prosecutor, his mom said that he was he implied that he was going to take his own life after the shooting. So he is essentially trying to keep him from harming himself and possibly killing himself. Now he during this hearing that only went about fifteen minutes, judge read the seven charges against him, but he showed no emotion as he heard the charges, which included witness tampering, obstruction of justice, aggravated murder. He will be assigned a public defender now. His next scheduled court appearance is September the twenty ninth. Now.
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Speaker 1: Prior to Robinson's court appearance, the prosecutor held a news conference in which he released a ton of new details about the investigation, including what can only be described as a fascinating, insightful text exchange between Robinson and his roommate. And we say roommate, but this was actually Robinson's girlfriend. This was a biological male who was transitioning to a female. But he refers to her as my love. So I know, we keep saying roommate, but they were by all accounts, boyfriend girlfriend.
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Speaker 2: We keep saying roommate because authorities keep saying roommate from the very beginning. This is a roommate that he was in a romantic relationship with.
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Speaker 1: That's so strange. You would never say that if it were a biological male and a biological female. You would absolutely say his girlfriend, or they're.
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Speaker 2: Dating or something. But they keep saying roommate, roommate, So we just want to give that context as we continue on here. So the roommate exchange all these text messages. So these texts were released by the prosecutors yesterday, and they start with Robinson, the suspect, telling his roommate and I quote, drop what you are doing. Look under my keyboard now, authority say. The roommate followed the instructions and found a note, and that note read I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it. And at that point the roommate text Robinson back, what you're joking, right.
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Speaker 1: And then Robinson responds, I am still okay, my love, but am stuck in orum for a little while longer yet shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle still. To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I'm sorry to involve you. Then the roommate says you weren't the one who did it right, with a ton of exclamation a ton of question marks. Robinson responds, I am, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: Now. At one point in the exchange, the roommate asks Robinson the question that so many people have been asking why, what is the motive here? Why did you do this? Now police have said they officially at least they haven't identified a motive. But this in the suspect's own words when he was asked why he did it, His response quote, I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence going to attempt to retrieve it again. Hopefully they have moved on. I haven't seen anything about them finding it now. According to the text, Robinson said he'd been planning the shooting about a week.
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Speaker 1: Man. I mean that was just some incredible insight. We actually go through the entire hearing and all the information we learned in the podcast right before this. So if you want to go into more detail here more about it, please check that out. It should be the episode right before this one. But next up on the Run, a judge threw out some charges against Luigi Mangioni in what his lawyer called a big win and the first of many. Mangioni is no longer facing state terrorism charges after the court ruled the state did not show sufficient evidence to support such charges.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the state was making the argument that Mangioni intended to invoke terror when he shot and killed United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson last year on a Manhattan street, but the judge rejected the argument, saying that something is not terrorism just because you're motivated by ideology.
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Speaker 1: Hmm. I believe that the Justice Department now and a lot of prominent dem Republicans would disagree with that, because that's exactly what they're trying to say terrorism is. At least that's what we've been hearing in recent days. He is still facing Manji is still facing a second degree murder charge, but with those dropped charges, he's no longer facing a possible mandatory life sentence without the possibility of parole in his stage case. But however, this has zero impact on his federal case, in which he is also facing the death penalty.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, his next quarter parents is scheduled for December. And another big thing here we mentioned at the top. That's kind of a big deal to hear the lawyer say this was just the first victory of many to come, and you say, what the hell does that mean? And maybe he's just being normal with attorney bluster but this comes from attorney you know and you know well, and who just pulled off one of the biggest victories arguably in celebrity serious crime history. We're talking about Mark Agnifilo. This was Diddy's lawyer. He is now representing Luigi Mangioni along with his wife, who was doing the duty. She was representing Mangioni while her husband was representing Diddy during the trial. This is an unbelievable household.
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Speaker 1: Well, yes, then apparently that star power translates. I would imagine if you see that kind of a victory or that kind of capability, you think that's who I want. Now you have to be able to afford him. But Mangioni comes from a very affluent family reportedly, so I guess they can afford that type of representation. All right. Next up on the run, President Trump and the First Lady are in the UK for Trump's unprecedented second state visit. The trip will include pageantry and politics, and maybe mostly pageantry. He got the full red carpet Royal Air Force treatment upon arrival last night. That there was a photo that was stunning and has everyone talking about Milania's berbery, full length flowing trench coat.
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Speaker 2: You couldn't stage it better as a photograph of her doing a photo shoot for Berbery.
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Speaker 1: I said you should. They should blow that up and hang out above the fireplace. It was a gorgeous photo there.
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Speaker 2: Really want to blow of the coke at the bottom? Was Are you serious?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Burbery should be able to use that as an ad because it really I mean, if you look at top stories and some of the websites, it's trending the picture Milania. Well it's Malania Trump's Birbery trench code. Everyone wants it. Wow, I mean she sold it, she sold it.
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Speaker 2: Well, oh well, all right, well today let's get back to the trip. We said pageantry and politics. We didn't mention fashion, but the President and the First Lady it will be taken by royal carriage to Windsor Castle and then be greeted by the Duke and Duchess of Wales Will and Kate. After that they will then meet Charles and Camilla, King Charles, which will include a gun salute and more royal carriage processions. The President isn't going to meet British Prime Minister Keir Starmer on Thursday, so that's the politics.
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Speaker 1: Part all right, But it wasn't all pageantry and fun.
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Speaker 2: No. No.
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Speaker 1: The president flew four thousand miles to the UK, and apparently that still wasn't far enough to get away from his Jeffrey Epstein headache. It was waiting for him in lights at Windsor Castle, where there were images of Trump and Epstein projected onto the castle's iconic towers. I mean, this was quite the sight.
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Speaker 2: This was okay, I know it's a strong van. What even were gonna say they shouldn't do it? It was well done. I wasn't like, how did they get this to look this good?
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Speaker 1: I was impressed.
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Speaker 2: And it was an edited video of images that rolled. They had a lot of stuff in there, and a lot of stuff you would recognize a lot of pictures that have been out there in the press over the years. There was a picture of him with Epstein, several of them, but there was one where he was featured with Milania. That was one of him dancing with young women at a party. Put that up. They had Glenne Maxwell. She made some of the images as well, and that now in from his birthday message allegedly written by Trump to Epstein was up there.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: Police quickly we're able to track down the source of the images, arrested four peace people on this was the crime suspicion of malicious communication.
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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a crime.
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Speaker 2: Suspicion of malicious communication, is what it is?
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Speaker 1: Official? Yeah, gold Yeah, I'm sure they preferred the Burbery trench coat photo to the ones projected onto Windsor Castle. All right, next up on the run, we're going to go back to DC and FBI Director Cash Pattel gets another day of grilling on Capitol Hill today and that means we get another fireworks show. He set to testify at ten am Eastern time, this time before the House Judiciary Committee, where we will likely see yes more heated back and forth with lawmakers.
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Speaker 2: This was exhausting yesterday. On a different level. We've gotten the custom now to these things happening, but nothing was done. This is not shouting about policy issues. This was name calling. You're stupid, you're dumb. For the institution, you're a buffoon, your lot, embarrassment, you're it was that stuff, not a policy debate of any kind. For the most part, some of these exchanges we call them combat up and explosive, but this is not stuff you want to see these were shouting massive matches, and in particular he was pressed on the Epstein files, and he was pressed on this idea. They did spend a lot of time on FBI agents, like was their retaliation. They did spend a lot of time on that. I was interested in. But also his answers, what did you think, ro what about the Charlie Kirk assassination? And he was the one who put out that tweet early that said they had the person in custody and then had to take it back I think ninety minutes later.
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Speaker 1: He justifies it and he defends it by saying he was being transparent. So that's what he says. At one point, Patel called California Senator Adam Schiff, this is probably the lowest moment, a disgrace to this institution and said that Senator Shiff was the biggest fraud to ever sit in the United States Senate. That's how he did it got And while Republican senators praised Patel and all the work he's done since he took office, one Senator Tom Tillis offered Patel some advice. Given all the ugly exchanges we were seeing. He said, don't take the bait. Just sit down in the quiet confidence that you're doing a good job. Well, we will see if Patel can follow that advice from Senator Tillis later this morning.
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Speaker 2: We shall see. We stay with us folks here on this Wednesday morning when we come back TikTok, the deadline is here again. Don't worry, folks, you know how this is going to go. Also, coming up Mount Saint Helens. It was the last time she erupted. Don't know, but she's erupting now, but it is nineteen eighty eighteen was the last eruption. Well, it's happening again, only to the fool's eye. Also coming up here Robert Redford. We will spend some time honoring him and the case of the missing Beyonce music. They nabbed the guy who stole it, But where is the music? Continuing on this Wednesday morning? Run now? And does at this point you even believe that TikTok is going to go anywhere?
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Speaker 1: There's no TikTok clock going.
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Speaker 2: Okay, everybody was going crazy for a little wise is going to go away for the one hundred and seventy million US users. Well, the President has once again pushed back the deadline for the app to shut down in the US. It was supposed to shut down in January, you'll remember, but because of a US law that requires TikTok's Chinese owners to divest, that was the deadline. You either have to sell to a US owner by January or we're going to shut you down in the US. It was shut down for what ten minutes?
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Speaker 1: Not very long, yes, So President Trump keeps signing extensions of that deadline, first ninety days and then seventy five days, while he said his administration was working on finding a US owner. Well, this is now the fourth time Trump has extended the deadline. But earlier this week, the administration said a framework for a deal had been reached, but did not give details about the who and the when of the deal.
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Speaker 2: So now they have until December sixteen. That's the new deadline. President Trump did say he's going to speak to Chinese President she on Friday to, as he put it, firm everything up.
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Speaker 1: All right, we shall see next up on the run, We're gonna head to Washington State, where, despite what it looks like, we assure you Mount Saint Helen's is not erupting. You're assuring us well, only because the National Weather Service did, okay, let's go with.
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Speaker 2: That, strong winds kicking up volcanic ash from the nineteen eighty Mount Saint Helen's eruption, creating hazy conditions that makes it look like there is a volcanic something going on. Commercial airline pilots first began reporting seeing the phenomenon known as ash resuspension, which prompted the National Weather Service and the US Geological Survey to put out statements on social media reassuring residents that everything is okay. Let me hear it. Is this gonna be reird?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, can you imagine living I mean, look, there are people who live there now who lived in that. I mean fifty six fifty seven people died in the Mount Saint Helens eruption from nineteen eighty. So yeah, you start to see what looks like smoke coming out of the volcano, you probably start freaking out. So they posted this on X. Mount Saint Helen's is not erupting, and they put not in all caps. Volcanic ash from the nineteen eighties is being lofted back into the air from the strong east winds. They also let folks know the volcano alert level at Mount Saint Helens is currently at normal or Code green normal.
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Speaker 2: Co has it really not erupted since nineteen eighty in any little smalls?
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Speaker 1: I don't know if there was something small, but that was the last major one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, I did not realize it's been that long. We will continue on the run now with Robert Redford Academi Award winning actor, director and so much as he was being labeled by so much of the coverage rope philanthropist. Yes, advocate a right a humanitarian I think people even saw. But he certainly got involved in a lot of that work later in his life and career. But he passed away the age of eighty nine. He had a resume that span six decades in front of and behind the camera, but certainly one of the biggest movie stars of his generation. Most famous. You mentioned at the top Busch Cassidy and The Sun Dance Kid, The Way We Were and the Sting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, those were the three. But he has so many. I mean, it's too many to count, as we were just trying to go through it. But his publicists shared the news of his passing on Tuesday, saying he died at his home in the mountains of Utah, surrounded by those he loved, and President Trump even waged on the news as he was heading out to the UK, saying, I'll tell you, Robert Redford was great. He had a series of years that he was. There was nobody better. So you just kind of mentioned this. But beyond his acting and directing achievements, Redford notably founded the sun Dance Institute, where he used his celebrity to foster independent films, also to foster young actors who were unknown and create a platform for them. And yes, he began hosting the internationally renowned Sundance Film Festival. We all know it. It actually began in nineteen eighty five and it spawned so many incredible movie it might not have had a chance to become what they became if he hadn't created this.
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Speaker 2: That's the premiere, is it not? I mean, you got can but do we have in the US?
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Speaker 1: In the US, that is absolutely.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I put it to how we are here in New York Tribeca. That's Robert Denaro, that's his film festival.
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Speaker 1: Correct.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I realized he originated the Sundance Film Festival. I did not know that. They released the statement saying today is a sad day for the Sun Dance Institute community. Bob's vision launched a movement that, over four decades later, had some inspired generations of artists and redefined cinema in the US and around the world. That statement say Bob they know him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was really sweet to see all the people who he's worked with not just say oh, he was, but just talk of talk to him, like he was almost a fatherly gentleman who really worked with young actors. And I liked Scarlet Johanson. I didn't realize he hired her at eleven years old to start on her first film, and she said she described him as patient, nurturing and kind. But you kind of get that from him when you see him. But it's nice to know that those who worked with him and knew him best reaffirmed that.
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Speaker 2: So much of what I've saw, he was always a cool customer in all of his roles, and like I almost wanted him to get worked he was so cool. That was chilling.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And also The New York Times has a whole it's a really awesome article if you want to read it about the fashion the fashion he inspired, the Ralph Lauren kind of corduroy. They said that Ralf Lauren worked with him in some of the movies. But he is kind of this fashion icon he became, and he's laughing, is like, I was this freckle faced kid who had hay colored hair who got made fun of. And to be known for your looks and your style, it just was so not what he grew up with or thought regarded himself as. But he really truly is a fashion icon.
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Speaker 2: Was well, he more of a casual cool he seemed right.
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Speaker 1: The key coat Lauren, Yes, the pea coat, the corduroy suit like that whole yes, and that just relaxed American fashion style. He really embodied it and inspired a lot of fashion designers. All right. Next up on the Run, the case of the missing Beyonce music. Remember this story from earlier this summer. Yeah, someone broke into a car parked in Atlanta stole a couple of bags. Well, those bags happened to contain some laptops and a hard drive that had unreleased Beyonce music on It.
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Speaker 2: Kind of a big deal to get your hands on something like that. When you say the Atlanta police say they have arrested the guy who stole it, but they say they don't know where the music is. Kelvin Lanier Evans probably had no idea what he was stealing. He was just grabbing some luggage in the back of a vehicle. Innocent until proven guilty, I should say that. But that's the suspect they have named. Well, he was arrested, scheduled to be in court today, but again, bro, don't know where it is. As a reminder of these, this was a choreographer and somebody.
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Speaker 1: Who worked for her and a dancer I think, y yeah.
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Speaker 2: Who were there in town because she did four three or four shows at the Mercedes Cowboy Carter Tour. Yes, and somebody grab his stuff. So there is reportedly now some unreleased Beyondce music floating in the world.
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Speaker 1: See it's in the deep dark web, that place I don't know how to access and don't want to. All right, Next up on the Run, Congrats to Paige Becker. She's having a hell of a twenty twenty five. She was just named WNBA Rookie of the Year almost unanimously.
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Speaker 2: Yeah big deal here. She got seventy of seventy two votes. She was drafted if you'll remember number one by Dallas in April. That was just weeks after she had won a national championship with Yukon. She said a WNBA record scoring a record forty four points in a game last month, and this is one of the most impressive things. She is the seventh Yukon player to win WNBA Rookie of the Year. The league has only been around twenty five or so years. That's just what Yukon has done. This is a celebration of her, but a celebration of that institution that these kids go on, kids, young ladies go on and continue their success. So we give love to the NBA when their people are named for wards. Want to give Page her flowers.
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Speaker 1: To Yeah, congratulations to pay Paige Becker's all right, we are going to leave you on this Wednesday with our quote of the day. Something to think about. This is from an unknown person, but all the powerful, even though we don't have a name attached to it. Happiness is letting go of what you think your life is supposed to look like.
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Speaker 2: I didn't see that. I don't see these ahead of time. When you started talking, I knew where this was going happen. Is is letting go. I gotta filled it in. Isn't that the truth? That's the only problem you're going to have with your day to day that you get upset is because the day doesn't go like you plan or expect it to go. That's the only thing that's going to upset you today.
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Speaker 1: I have really come to lean in on this doct that expectations are the source of almost all suffering. You have an expectation of other people, of yourself, of the weather, of whatever it is, and when it doesn't go your way, you're pissed. So yes, you have to let that go. Happiness is letting go of what you think I think your life is supposed to look like. You know, I love Mail Robbins. Her thing is let them, let it, let it be what it is. Just accept and you will find peace.
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Speaker 2: That's a good one today, and we encourage you all to try it. Whatever your expectations are, if you get rid of them your day it might be one of the happiest you have of the week. And with that, folks, we always appreciate your running well us. I'm TJ.
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Speaker 1: Holmes and I'm Amy Roboch. We will talk to you real soon.
Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ an iHeartRadio Podcast. Good morning everyone, Thanks for joining us for today's Morning Run. It is Wednesday, September seventeenth.
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Speaker 2: I'm Amy Robot and I'm TJ Holmes And did you hear? Did you see? My Saint Helen's is erupting? At least that's what it looks like. How can that not be an eruption if you haven't seen, it's certainly got people going, had airline pilots and a bit of a frenzy. Mount Saint Helen's looked like it was.
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Speaker 1: Erupting, looked like being the operative phrase. There is an actual explanation that is no cause for alarm.
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Speaker 2: And it was decades in the making. It's kind of an interesting store. We'll get into that. Also, the case of the missing Beyonce music. They have arrested the guy who stole her music. This was a big deal. Her unreleased There is unreleased Beyonce music out there and it was stolen. This was a big deal. But they caught the guy.
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Speaker 1: Now ropes Yeah, but unfortunately they don't have the music.
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Speaker 2: We'll explain what's going on here and what is going on there could be some unreleased Beyonce music floating around out there, So there is actually would you ransom it back? What would you do?
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Speaker 1: No? Right, you can't, you can't. That's giving in to terrorism, right, Like you.
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Speaker 2: Know, I'm saying as the criminal, would you ransom?
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Speaker 1: I mean, you could try, but it's gonna blow up in your face. There's no way you can avoid being caught doing that.
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Speaker 2: I will tell you what's happening, and I'll tell you what's happening in Hot Lanta. Also, Robert Redford, what's your favorite you have? What movie of his? I think a lot of people go back to his classics. I'm trying, I I am, this is not too classic. I guess indecent proposal. He was, he was.
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Speaker 1: He was amazing. You know, I haven't given thought to it the way we were with Barbaris Streisand I saw it once when I was younger. He was dashing, and I know, but people talk about Butch Cassidy and the Sun Dance Kid, all.
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Speaker 2: The President's Men. For me, all right, journalists, that movie was unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: But yes, that was amazing.
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Speaker 2: We're looking back. Yes, we got word early yesterday. In fact, we had just wrapped our morning run and we got word of his passing, so a lot of you of course been reflecting and talking about him throughout the day yesterday, but we're also going to give him a nod here on the morning run. Also heads up to you, as always subscribe top right corner of the screen, click that button that says follow on your Apple podcast app and you can get our updates anytime coming directly to you. Also in the run this morning, charges against the alleged Charlie Kirk assassin those have been announced. Also charges dropped against Luigi MANGIONI will explain Trump greeted by Epstein on his UK trip and robes what the hell with cash Patel? If you all didn't see this yesterday, I hope nobody used the word entertaining. This was embarrassing at times.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was I'm gonna say this in a nice way. He was feisty.
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Speaker 2: Hell, we don't want to just put it on him when we say embarrassing. It was an embarrassing event environment to see completely that are that a congression hearing about some of the most serious matters on the planet. Divulge into this. We'll get into that and why we could see more of the same today.
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Speaker 1: Yes, adults acting like children. More of that to come, but we begin our run in Utah and the alleged Charlie Kirkussasen made that first court appearance. It happened late yesterday. It was virtual, so he physically was not in the courtroom, but he sat alone in a room. There was a white cement wall behind him. He was wearing an oversized vest that looked like a flak jacket. Reportedly it was an anti suicide vest. We had questions about that because it seemed odd that he would need a bulletproof vest or something in a room by himself. But now it's an anti suicide vest.
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Speaker 2: You made that point yesterday, but looking at it for the naked eye, looked like nothing but a flag jacket to me. But yeah, why would he? So they explain now that I mean because some of the reports that came out from the prosecutor, his mom said that he was he implied that he was going to take his own life after the shooting. So he is essentially trying to keep him from harming himself and possibly killing himself. Now he during this hearing that only went about fifteen minutes, judge read the seven charges against him, but he showed no emotion as he heard the charges, which included witness tampering, obstruction of justice, aggravated murder. He will be assigned a public defender now. His next scheduled court appearance is September the twenty ninth. Now.
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Speaker 1: Prior to Robinson's court appearance, the prosecutor held a news conference in which he released a ton of new details about the investigation, including what can only be described as a fascinating, insightful text exchange between Robinson and his roommate. And we say roommate, but this was actually Robinson's girlfriend. This was a biological male who was transitioning to a female. But he refers to her as my love. So I know, we keep saying roommate, but they were by all accounts, boyfriend girlfriend.
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Speaker 2: We keep saying roommate because authorities keep saying roommate from the very beginning. This is a roommate that he was in a romantic relationship with.
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Speaker 1: That's so strange. You would never say that if it were a biological male and a biological female. You would absolutely say his girlfriend, or they're.
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Speaker 2: Dating or something. But they keep saying roommate, roommate, So we just want to give that context as we continue on here. So the roommate exchange all these text messages. So these texts were released by the prosecutors yesterday, and they start with Robinson, the suspect, telling his roommate and I quote, drop what you are doing. Look under my keyboard now, authority say. The roommate followed the instructions and found a note, and that note read I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it. And at that point the roommate text Robinson back, what you're joking, right.
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Speaker 1: And then Robinson responds, I am still okay, my love, but am stuck in orum for a little while longer yet shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle still. To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I'm sorry to involve you. Then the roommate says you weren't the one who did it right, with a ton of exclamation a ton of question marks. Robinson responds, I am, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: Now. At one point in the exchange, the roommate asks Robinson the question that so many people have been asking why, what is the motive here? Why did you do this? Now police have said they officially at least they haven't identified a motive. But this in the suspect's own words when he was asked why he did it, His response quote, I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence going to attempt to retrieve it again. Hopefully they have moved on. I haven't seen anything about them finding it now. According to the text, Robinson said he'd been planning the shooting about a week.
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Speaker 1: Man. I mean that was just some incredible insight. We actually go through the entire hearing and all the information we learned in the podcast right before this. So if you want to go into more detail here more about it, please check that out. It should be the episode right before this one. But next up on the Run, a judge threw out some charges against Luigi Mangioni in what his lawyer called a big win and the first of many. Mangioni is no longer facing state terrorism charges after the court ruled the state did not show sufficient evidence to support such charges.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the state was making the argument that Mangioni intended to invoke terror when he shot and killed United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson last year on a Manhattan street, but the judge rejected the argument, saying that something is not terrorism just because you're motivated by ideology.
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Speaker 1: Hmm. I believe that the Justice Department now and a lot of prominent dem Republicans would disagree with that, because that's exactly what they're trying to say terrorism is. At least that's what we've been hearing in recent days. He is still facing Manji is still facing a second degree murder charge, but with those dropped charges, he's no longer facing a possible mandatory life sentence without the possibility of parole in his stage case. But however, this has zero impact on his federal case, in which he is also facing the death penalty.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, his next quarter parents is scheduled for December. And another big thing here we mentioned at the top. That's kind of a big deal to hear the lawyer say this was just the first victory of many to come, and you say, what the hell does that mean? And maybe he's just being normal with attorney bluster but this comes from attorney you know and you know well, and who just pulled off one of the biggest victories arguably in celebrity serious crime history. We're talking about Mark Agnifilo. This was Diddy's lawyer. He is now representing Luigi Mangioni along with his wife, who was doing the duty. She was representing Mangioni while her husband was representing Diddy during the trial. This is an unbelievable household.
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Speaker 1: Well, yes, then apparently that star power translates. I would imagine if you see that kind of a victory or that kind of capability, you think that's who I want. Now you have to be able to afford him. But Mangioni comes from a very affluent family reportedly, so I guess they can afford that type of representation. All right. Next up on the run, President Trump and the First Lady are in the UK for Trump's unprecedented second state visit. The trip will include pageantry and politics, and maybe mostly pageantry. He got the full red carpet Royal Air Force treatment upon arrival last night. That there was a photo that was stunning and has everyone talking about Milania's berbery, full length flowing trench coat.
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Speaker 2: You couldn't stage it better as a photograph of her doing a photo shoot for Berbery.
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Speaker 1: I said you should. They should blow that up and hang out above the fireplace. It was a gorgeous photo there.
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Speaker 2: Really want to blow of the coke at the bottom? Was Are you serious?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Burbery should be able to use that as an ad because it really I mean, if you look at top stories and some of the websites, it's trending the picture Milania. Well it's Malania Trump's Birbery trench code. Everyone wants it. Wow, I mean she sold it, she sold it.
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Speaker 2: Well, oh well, all right, well today let's get back to the trip. We said pageantry and politics. We didn't mention fashion, but the President and the First Lady it will be taken by royal carriage to Windsor Castle and then be greeted by the Duke and Duchess of Wales Will and Kate. After that they will then meet Charles and Camilla, King Charles, which will include a gun salute and more royal carriage processions. The President isn't going to meet British Prime Minister Keir Starmer on Thursday, so that's the politics.
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Speaker 1: Part all right, But it wasn't all pageantry and fun.
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Speaker 2: No. No.
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Speaker 1: The president flew four thousand miles to the UK, and apparently that still wasn't far enough to get away from his Jeffrey Epstein headache. It was waiting for him in lights at Windsor Castle, where there were images of Trump and Epstein projected onto the castle's iconic towers. I mean, this was quite the sight.
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Speaker 2: This was okay, I know it's a strong van. What even were gonna say they shouldn't do it? It was well done. I wasn't like, how did they get this to look this good?
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Speaker 1: I was impressed.
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Speaker 2: And it was an edited video of images that rolled. They had a lot of stuff in there, and a lot of stuff you would recognize a lot of pictures that have been out there in the press over the years. There was a picture of him with Epstein, several of them, but there was one where he was featured with Milania. That was one of him dancing with young women at a party. Put that up. They had Glenne Maxwell. She made some of the images as well, and that now in from his birthday message allegedly written by Trump to Epstein was up there.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: Police quickly we're able to track down the source of the images, arrested four peace people on this was the crime suspicion of malicious communication.
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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a crime.
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Speaker 2: Suspicion of malicious communication, is what it is?
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Speaker 1: Official? Yeah, gold Yeah, I'm sure they preferred the Burbery trench coat photo to the ones projected onto Windsor Castle. All right, next up on the run, we're going to go back to DC and FBI Director Cash Pattel gets another day of grilling on Capitol Hill today and that means we get another fireworks show. He set to testify at ten am Eastern time, this time before the House Judiciary Committee, where we will likely see yes more heated back and forth with lawmakers.
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Speaker 2: This was exhausting yesterday. On a different level. We've gotten the custom now to these things happening, but nothing was done. This is not shouting about policy issues. This was name calling. You're stupid, you're dumb. For the institution, you're a buffoon, your lot, embarrassment, you're it was that stuff, not a policy debate of any kind. For the most part, some of these exchanges we call them combat up and explosive, but this is not stuff you want to see these were shouting massive matches, and in particular he was pressed on the Epstein files, and he was pressed on this idea. They did spend a lot of time on FBI agents, like was their retaliation. They did spend a lot of time on that. I was interested in. But also his answers, what did you think, ro what about the Charlie Kirk assassination? And he was the one who put out that tweet early that said they had the person in custody and then had to take it back I think ninety minutes later.
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Speaker 1: He justifies it and he defends it by saying he was being transparent. So that's what he says. At one point, Patel called California Senator Adam Schiff, this is probably the lowest moment, a disgrace to this institution and said that Senator Shiff was the biggest fraud to ever sit in the United States Senate. That's how he did it got And while Republican senators praised Patel and all the work he's done since he took office, one Senator Tom Tillis offered Patel some advice. Given all the ugly exchanges we were seeing. He said, don't take the bait. Just sit down in the quiet confidence that you're doing a good job. Well, we will see if Patel can follow that advice from Senator Tillis later this morning.
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Speaker 2: We shall see. We stay with us folks here on this Wednesday morning when we come back TikTok, the deadline is here again. Don't worry, folks, you know how this is going to go. Also, coming up Mount Saint Helens. It was the last time she erupted. Don't know, but she's erupting now, but it is nineteen eighty eighteen was the last eruption. Well, it's happening again, only to the fool's eye. Also coming up here Robert Redford. We will spend some time honoring him and the case of the missing Beyonce music. They nabbed the guy who stole it, But where is the music? Continuing on this Wednesday morning? Run now? And does at this point you even believe that TikTok is going to go anywhere?
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Speaker 1: There's no TikTok clock going.
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Speaker 2: Okay, everybody was going crazy for a little wise is going to go away for the one hundred and seventy million US users. Well, the President has once again pushed back the deadline for the app to shut down in the US. It was supposed to shut down in January, you'll remember, but because of a US law that requires TikTok's Chinese owners to divest, that was the deadline. You either have to sell to a US owner by January or we're going to shut you down in the US. It was shut down for what ten minutes?
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Speaker 1: Not very long, yes, So President Trump keeps signing extensions of that deadline, first ninety days and then seventy five days, while he said his administration was working on finding a US owner. Well, this is now the fourth time Trump has extended the deadline. But earlier this week, the administration said a framework for a deal had been reached, but did not give details about the who and the when of the deal.
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Speaker 2: So now they have until December sixteen. That's the new deadline. President Trump did say he's going to speak to Chinese President she on Friday to, as he put it, firm everything up.
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Speaker 1: All right, we shall see next up on the run, We're gonna head to Washington State, where, despite what it looks like, we assure you Mount Saint Helen's is not erupting. You're assuring us well, only because the National Weather Service did, okay, let's go with.
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Speaker 2: That, strong winds kicking up volcanic ash from the nineteen eighty Mount Saint Helen's eruption, creating hazy conditions that makes it look like there is a volcanic something going on. Commercial airline pilots first began reporting seeing the phenomenon known as ash resuspension, which prompted the National Weather Service and the US Geological Survey to put out statements on social media reassuring residents that everything is okay. Let me hear it. Is this gonna be reird?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, can you imagine living I mean, look, there are people who live there now who lived in that. I mean fifty six fifty seven people died in the Mount Saint Helens eruption from nineteen eighty. So yeah, you start to see what looks like smoke coming out of the volcano, you probably start freaking out. So they posted this on X. Mount Saint Helen's is not erupting, and they put not in all caps. Volcanic ash from the nineteen eighties is being lofted back into the air from the strong east winds. They also let folks know the volcano alert level at Mount Saint Helens is currently at normal or Code green normal.
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Speaker 2: Co has it really not erupted since nineteen eighty in any little smalls?
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Speaker 1: I don't know if there was something small, but that was the last major one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, I did not realize it's been that long. We will continue on the run now with Robert Redford Academi Award winning actor, director and so much as he was being labeled by so much of the coverage rope philanthropist. Yes, advocate a right a humanitarian I think people even saw. But he certainly got involved in a lot of that work later in his life and career. But he passed away the age of eighty nine. He had a resume that span six decades in front of and behind the camera, but certainly one of the biggest movie stars of his generation. Most famous. You mentioned at the top Busch Cassidy and The Sun Dance Kid, The Way We Were and the Sting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, those were the three. But he has so many. I mean, it's too many to count, as we were just trying to go through it. But his publicists shared the news of his passing on Tuesday, saying he died at his home in the mountains of Utah, surrounded by those he loved, and President Trump even waged on the news as he was heading out to the UK, saying, I'll tell you, Robert Redford was great. He had a series of years that he was. There was nobody better. So you just kind of mentioned this. But beyond his acting and directing achievements, Redford notably founded the sun Dance Institute, where he used his celebrity to foster independent films, also to foster young actors who were unknown and create a platform for them. And yes, he began hosting the internationally renowned Sundance Film Festival. We all know it. It actually began in nineteen eighty five and it spawned so many incredible movie it might not have had a chance to become what they became if he hadn't created this.
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Speaker 2: That's the premiere, is it not? I mean, you got can but do we have in the US?
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Speaker 1: In the US, that is absolutely.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I put it to how we are here in New York Tribeca. That's Robert Denaro, that's his film festival.
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Speaker 1: Correct.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I realized he originated the Sundance Film Festival. I did not know that. They released the statement saying today is a sad day for the Sun Dance Institute community. Bob's vision launched a movement that, over four decades later, had some inspired generations of artists and redefined cinema in the US and around the world. That statement say Bob they know him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was really sweet to see all the people who he's worked with not just say oh, he was, but just talk of talk to him, like he was almost a fatherly gentleman who really worked with young actors. And I liked Scarlet Johanson. I didn't realize he hired her at eleven years old to start on her first film, and she said she described him as patient, nurturing and kind. But you kind of get that from him when you see him. But it's nice to know that those who worked with him and knew him best reaffirmed that.
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Speaker 2: So much of what I've saw, he was always a cool customer in all of his roles, and like I almost wanted him to get worked he was so cool. That was chilling.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And also The New York Times has a whole it's a really awesome article if you want to read it about the fashion the fashion he inspired, the Ralph Lauren kind of corduroy. They said that Ralf Lauren worked with him in some of the movies. But he is kind of this fashion icon he became, and he's laughing, is like, I was this freckle faced kid who had hay colored hair who got made fun of. And to be known for your looks and your style, it just was so not what he grew up with or thought regarded himself as. But he really truly is a fashion icon.
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Speaker 2: Was well, he more of a casual cool he seemed right.
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Speaker 1: The key coat Lauren, Yes, the pea coat, the corduroy suit like that whole yes, and that just relaxed American fashion style. He really embodied it and inspired a lot of fashion designers. All right. Next up on the Run, the case of the missing Beyonce music. Remember this story from earlier this summer. Yeah, someone broke into a car parked in Atlanta stole a couple of bags. Well, those bags happened to contain some laptops and a hard drive that had unreleased Beyonce music on It.
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Speaker 2: Kind of a big deal to get your hands on something like that. When you say the Atlanta police say they have arrested the guy who stole it, but they say they don't know where the music is. Kelvin Lanier Evans probably had no idea what he was stealing. He was just grabbing some luggage in the back of a vehicle. Innocent until proven guilty, I should say that. But that's the suspect they have named. Well, he was arrested, scheduled to be in court today, but again, bro, don't know where it is. As a reminder of these, this was a choreographer and somebody.
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Speaker 1: Who worked for her and a dancer I think, y yeah.
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Speaker 2: Who were there in town because she did four three or four shows at the Mercedes Cowboy Carter Tour. Yes, and somebody grab his stuff. So there is reportedly now some unreleased Beyondce music floating in the world.
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Speaker 1: See it's in the deep dark web, that place I don't know how to access and don't want to. All right, Next up on the Run, Congrats to Paige Becker. She's having a hell of a twenty twenty five. She was just named WNBA Rookie of the Year almost unanimously.
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Speaker 2: Yeah big deal here. She got seventy of seventy two votes. She was drafted if you'll remember number one by Dallas in April. That was just weeks after she had won a national championship with Yukon. She said a WNBA record scoring a record forty four points in a game last month, and this is one of the most impressive things. She is the seventh Yukon player to win WNBA Rookie of the Year. The league has only been around twenty five or so years. That's just what Yukon has done. This is a celebration of her, but a celebration of that institution that these kids go on, kids, young ladies go on and continue their success. So we give love to the NBA when their people are named for wards. Want to give Page her flowers.
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Speaker 1: To Yeah, congratulations to pay Paige Becker's all right, we are going to leave you on this Wednesday with our quote of the day. Something to think about. This is from an unknown person, but all the powerful, even though we don't have a name attached to it. Happiness is letting go of what you think your life is supposed to look like.
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Speaker 2: I didn't see that. I don't see these ahead of time. When you started talking, I knew where this was going happen. Is is letting go. I gotta filled it in. Isn't that the truth? That's the only problem you're going to have with your day to day that you get upset is because the day doesn't go like you plan or expect it to go. That's the only thing that's going to upset you today.
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Speaker 1: I have really come to lean in on this doct that expectations are the source of almost all suffering. You have an expectation of other people, of yourself, of the weather, of whatever it is, and when it doesn't go your way, you're pissed. So yes, you have to let that go. Happiness is letting go of what you think I think your life is supposed to look like. You know, I love Mail Robbins. Her thing is let them, let it, let it be what it is. Just accept and you will find peace.
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Speaker 2: That's a good one today, and we encourage you all to try it. Whatever your expectations are, if you get rid of them your day it might be one of the happiest you have of the week. And with that, folks, we always appreciate your running well us. I'm TJ.
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Speaker 1: Holmes and I'm Amy Roboch. We will talk to you real soon.