May 25, 2026
“Me Facing My Fears” OR Me Being Rude Eating Chicken Thighs On A Plane?
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RSS Feed As many of us travel home from the Memorial Day Weekend, some of us will be flying, and with that comes rude passenger behavior. But one young flyer just went viral on Tik Tok for defending her behavior that many deemed selfish and rude: eating homemade garlic chicken thighs on a recent flight. We have our thoughts, and discuss some of the other, most complained about airplane antics. Happy flying everyone!
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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks did.
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Speaker 2: Is Monday, May twenty fifth, It's Memorial Day. A lot of people hopping on planes and a lot of poor plane etiquette is probably going to be exercised. Well, how about this one, who's in the wrong. When you pull out a big old plate of food and open it up and stink up the cabin, you have the right to do that? Or do your fellow passengers have every right to complain with that? Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ brows why were we even talking about this?
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Speaker 3: So there is a video on TikTok that went viral. A young woman named Lauren Wall says she's twenty eight years old. She was on a flight from Florida to Atlanta, so not a very long flight, but she says that she didn't really want to pay for overpriced, crappy food at the airport costs a lot.
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Speaker 4: Yep.
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Speaker 3: Knows she isn't going to get anything on the plane these days, you got a plane ahead, So she said she decided to pack up some leftovers in her refrigerator and eat.
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Speaker 4: And eat it on the plane, all right.
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Speaker 3: So she was so annoyed during the plane that another passenger was annoyed by her that she started to take a video of herself eating her chicken thighs garlic chicken thighs.
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Speaker 4: Whoa on the plane?
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Speaker 3: So on screen on the caption of her eating her garlic chicken thighs, she said, you're gonna go off.
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Speaker 4: I know you.
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Speaker 3: Me facing my fears eating chicken thighs on the plane and a man eating cheese.
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Speaker 4: It's in front of me, screaming.
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Speaker 3: It stinks, but I finished them in peace because the way I feel in my body is more important than some random guy's uncomfortability with salt, pepper and garlic.
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Speaker 4: I'm waiting for your reaction.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm she said it to video.
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Speaker 1: She wrote it.
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Speaker 4: She wrote it in a caption.
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Speaker 3: As she is eating, she puts some music and stuff on behind, and she put this up on the caption, basically saying that the way I feel in my body is more important than someone else who I've just made uncomfortable.
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Speaker 1: Okay, before we uh, I'm gonna call them down just a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Before I can see you breathing heavy. The big thing is me facing my fears, is how she captured it.
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Speaker 1: Oh, here's how did people react to this?
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Speaker 3: What's the oh, she's getting slammed, basically calling her selfish. Yes, people can wear earplugs or put on a sleep mask, but smell is the only sense you can't cover up or ignore, said one comment that got twenty eight thousand likes. The one comment got twenty eight thousand likes, So.
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Speaker 1: There is there anyone defending her.
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Speaker 3: One person said, this is the only one I can These comments are wild and not what I expected. I get, like tuna or something, but chicken is very mild. They're just saying it because it was chicken. Apparently it had a strong odor of garlic.
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Speaker 2: That person obviously didn't read into the story well enough to understand this was not just plain baked chicken.
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Speaker 4: Yes. Can I tell you what she said after the response oh she's got more?
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Speaker 1: Yes, ok.
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Speaker 3: She said, All I know is that this was a huge step from me in my growth of being able to stick to what makes me feel good, knowing that it's not going to make everybody the happiest. And she described herself as a recovering people pleaser.
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Speaker 1: Okay, she needs to go back to that.
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Speaker 2: She needs to relapse, completely, relapse into people pleasing. This is simple stuff, just a lack of consideration for anybody else on earth. I don't give a damn about anybody else, Robes. I'm not even I am so disappointed in hearing something like that. Maybe she's just trying to get attention or followers. Maybe she's being tongue in cheek. Maybe it wasn't for real.
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Speaker 4: Oh, I don't think she's being a tongue in cheek, and I think she is being for real.
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Speaker 2: Well, man, I hope we all battle this instinct, and maybe younger people to think that you that everything you want is more important than everybody else, like gee to put it in phrase of a step or growth or journey or some personal as if you can't be challenged now because now this is a part of me being a better person. It's a regression, Robes to the person selfishness we want to be. It's a regression from being a good person. Because you stated you actually don't care about anybody else on this PCT.
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Speaker 4: That's part of your journey into self discovery.
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Speaker 3: See that's the concerning part to me, because we actually had talked about doing an episode on this, and we should.
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Speaker 4: We haven't done it yet.
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Speaker 3: About younger folks now using therapy terms to basically justify bad behavior, and it's all about your journey into self discovery and self love. And actually what it is is incredibly selfish and and inconsiderate to other people oftentimes, but now we're able to shape it, whether it comes to a relationship you're in and how you treat the other person, or how you act just in general with the public. You're protecting your peace at all costs. And then they use words that we all have heard in therapy to defend their behavior, and that is alarming and disturbing because now they feel like they actually have like scientifically backed evidence that what they're doing is not only okay but important for self introspective in introspection, and that's concerning.
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Speaker 2: Because everybody else's life and comfort be damned, we just shouldn't be. I don't know this young lady, so trying to I was trying to leave space for something Rose, but I just I don't want to criticize her. But the idea that we're talking about robes is very scary. And you use this word I've jumped out at me when you said it. You said, we're using it to shape We are using rude behavior, bad behavior inconsiderate behavior sometimes even in decent behavior. We're using that now and we're able to shape that now Robes into a part of my growth as a positive in some way, En Robes. That is really because we now there is we have an excuse for everything we do. We have an excuse for bad behavior on the plane.
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Speaker 1: Robes.
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Speaker 2: It's one I've We've joked we fly so much together now that I don't get to do it as much. But I've been on planes. I said, you ain't gonna believe what this woman is opening up next to me, like, oh my god, there are across the aisle.
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Speaker 1: I already see.
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Speaker 2: I've sent you things before where the bag said Rosco's biscuits and whatever. And I'm like, lord, I know there's gonna be a long flight. Robes, I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I have never opened my mouth once to say anybody, just to anybody, or to complain at all. It's part of it sometimes and you have to stomach it. But Robes, I would never bring garlic truffle fries onto a plane and open them up because it stinks.
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Speaker 4: That would be but it happens.
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Speaker 3: It happens in almost every flight and then the question is what is acceptable and what isn't. And look, I just think this is all about consideration at the end of the day. And we live in New York City, and I think we, more than others might recognize how important it is to be considerate because we are in a small geographic area and we all have to share space, including even apartments where you've got noise people from above and below. You take your shoes off, not just because you want your apartment clean, but because you don't want to disturb your neighbors downstairs as well, noise with our you know, however, we want to crank our.
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Speaker 4: Speakers like all of that.
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Speaker 3: We have to always consider our neighbors because we're all in such close proximity. So maybe we're more hyper aware of it than others who might live out in wide open spaces can do what they want, yell as loud as they want, blast their music as loud as they want, and put any gaudy thing they want on their lawn and no one cares. But when you live in a small confined area, and when you're on a bus, on a subway, on a plane, you're in a shared environment. And I just feel like human decency demands that you be respectful of other people's rights to enjoy their space. And I do think that was so well put. Even if someone has their their kid playing their video game, which is annoying. Yes, I can put headphones on and drown him out. I don't prefer to do it. But a smell you cannot escape a smell.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad she didn't have bad gas because she wouldn't give a damn about what everybody else feels in this cabin. I'm going to stink it up because that's what makes me feel better.
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Speaker 1: Robes.
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Speaker 2: I again, I'm trying to leave room. And I do not want to dump on this person because we don't know this person. But the scenario at least rogues. Why is it we don't have that considered right? You're talking about walking I till on New York. I think about this all the time, just on the sidewalk it's crowded. Do you choose to move over.
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Speaker 1: A little bit?
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Speaker 2: Are you gonna make room for everybody else? And I always think about this, Robes when I get mad on the running path.
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Speaker 1: Happens a lot of time.
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Speaker 4: We see this all the time.
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Speaker 1: People are three across on the path.
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Speaker 3: With a double stroller a dog that they let their leash go seven feet wide, and you cannot get around.
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Speaker 1: Now unless you hurdle their child.
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Speaker 2: Perhaps people do this all the time because they're not thinking about everybody else. They're not being considerate. And I always think to myself, and I never get mad. I said, they have as much right to this pathway as I do, and within that is their right to be an asshole. I think that about a plane.
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Speaker 4: You say that, but I have a hard time with that.
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, they have the right.
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Speaker 2: She has the right to open that chicken on that plane because she has the right to that space too, And within her right robes is the right to not be considerate of anybody else.
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Speaker 4: I hear you. But you know what got me the most. Here's the deal.
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Speaker 3: All of that could have happened, and find she she did what she wanted to do, but she felt so empowered about her right that she actually decided to make a TikTok video and put it out for everyone to let them know that the way her body feels is more important than some random guy's uncomfortability with how her food smells.
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Speaker 2: And he wasn't the only one, by the way, even though it's only one we're talking about.
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Speaker 1: Everybody hated.
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Speaker 3: Yes, they were all saying it stinks, it smells and look for her to and just to call him some random guy.
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Speaker 4: Guess what, he's a human being. That's what we do. We act like what we want and what we need is more important than some random person.
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Speaker 1: Did you have his picture? I see him in the video.
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Speaker 4: I didn't see him in the video.
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Speaker 3: But but to just label somebody like that also diminishes their right to feel or think anything.
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Speaker 4: You are now dehumanizing them.
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Speaker 2: You know what that happened to me in the recent I didn't tell you about this. This is a totally random thing. Almost woman did this to me in the half marathon.
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Speaker 1: We just did a mystic.
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Speaker 2: Really, I'm running and I'm catching literally why lady say, who is your white lady sitting on the side another white lady she was rooting for. I was running up the hill and was about to blow past this other lady. Nob did We're not competing? She's rooting for that lady and say, come on, come on, don't let this random dude get past you.
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Speaker 1: He said that to me as I'm running.
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Speaker 4: Wow, that's weird.
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Speaker 1: No, I haven't thought you said she called him a random?
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Speaker 3: Wee? Do you say when you when you make that comment, it's it's dehumanizing that other person or or suggesting that somehow their existence is meaningless.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think of it's the random things.
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Speaker 3: The time way to describe somebody. You were already setting the tone when he described somebody like that good thing. I was running and I'm sure you easily passed her and she didn't. That didn't inspire her. It just defended jail.
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Speaker 2: Just the random when you say that, world, Wow, that's the thing people say.
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Speaker 1: I guess.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, this lay on the plane, what do you do, Robes, We've had this happen before. Have you ever actually complained about it? I would guess No.
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Speaker 3: No, I've just been irritated and annoyed and thought, how unbelievably rude is that person. But to think that person felt so empowered that they wanted to show the world what they did and applaud themselves for it and say I faced my fears. That is where I actually have a that's a whole other level of complete and total.
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Speaker 4: I don't even know what the word is for it.
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Speaker 3: Entitlement, disturbing entitlement that I'm seeing more and more of. There's no it's like applauded to not consider other people.
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Speaker 1: Damn say that shit again for the people in the back.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, lauded like she wanted credit for not being considerate. That is weird and scary and I feel like a growing trend again.
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Speaker 2: I want to leave space to whatever this young lady may have gone through in her life and where she is in her life that calls her to do this, And maybe she'll come around and say this isn't really what I meant, or maybe she will get gained some perspective. But at least as far as what you've said so far robes, she has doubled down on this.
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Speaker 3: Position without a doubt. This is her journey. Need to self help?
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Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait to fly with or where was it Florida?
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Speaker 3: At Florida to Atlanta? And that was other people were saying, it's a two hour flight. Why did you have to have food on the flight, like you It wasn't like a transatlantic flight where you were going to actually be hungry. Come on, you can go two hours without eating your garlic chicken thighs from two nights ago.
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Speaker 1: I had to ask one last thing, what time a day was a flight? Uh?
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Speaker 4: Just I actually just don't curiodes.
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Speaker 1: How can you pull out garlic chicken?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: She yeah, garlic chicken.
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Speaker 4: She said, I like. Okay. She did try to defend herself. This is funny. Okay, let me let me read the last little bit from her.
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Speaker 3: She said, it's not like I'm sitting in my kitchen with ten hours of free time being like I'm going to load up the garlets that this man can feel it. She actually got offended that people thought she did it on purpose. No, but what you did still caused harm. She said, I think that this is the story. A lot of people decided to make me the villain, in which is okay because they don't know me. Hopefully it reached the right people who are kind of afraid of doing something a little bit different, maybe bringing their own food to a restaurant with friends, or if they're not drinking, if they don't want to drink when they're going out in social situations. It can feel uncomfortable when it feels like you're doing it differently from the vast majority.
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Speaker 4: Of the world.
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Speaker 1: She's a hero.
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Speaker 3: She is absolutely trying to make herself a leader in the quest to do things differently. She's actually equating this to choosing not to drink with a group of friends. I don't know how she got there, but in her mind she went there.
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Speaker 2: Well, oh, I don't know her, so I don't know what's going on with her and why she would do that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's perplexed and I just have to stop short of there is. I don't know her, so I'm not going to criticize this young woman. But it's just like you said, Robes, it's scary. But this idea of folks eating on the plane, we have our own life things where we get most annoyed. Back stay here about stay here, We'll tell you what annoys us most, but we'll give you the official lists, if you will, of the most annoying violations of air passenger etiquette.
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Speaker 1: Stay here and.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ.
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Speaker 3: A lot of folks are flying on this Monday, on this Memorial Day Monday, headed back home. But this is really truly the beginning of major travel season.
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Speaker 4: We've got the summer months ahead of us.
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Speaker 3: Folks are getting on planes, and this young woman took to TikTok to defend herself and almost to applaud herself give herself a pat on the back. Not almost, she did saying she was facing her fear bringing her stinky garlic chicken thighs on the plane and was exceptionally offended when someone else told her it stinks, and was upset. Some passengers were upset that she made the entire cabin smell like garlic chicken thighs. But it's her right and she's on her journey to self love. But that got us thinking about what our most Did you hear the sarcasm dripping from me when I spoke, Okay, we started to come up with and we have an official list, but I was actually just gonna just list off some of the things, and I'm hopefully this will resonate with a lot of folks of just rude passenger behavior. I think Number one for me is watching people take their purses or their small backpacks and put it up in the overhead space where there is limited space for carry on luggage only, and people think that they should be able to put their second, you know, personal item up there, and therefore folks who have roller bags can't get their baggage job. That really irritates me because it's so selfish and you are really screwing your fellow passenger When you can easily put it underneath your seat.
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Speaker 1: That might be number one for you.
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Speaker 2: And we see this happen all the time, and even if it's not impacting us, it pisses us off. It is so inconsidered. Yeah, you're put it under your seat. You really need to stretch out that much that bag, And somebody's gonna have to check their bag at the gate because you want your purse backpack up top.
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Speaker 4: And guess what I get it.
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Speaker 3: I have a second carry on that's as large as it can be, the personal back, and I have it in front of me. And sometimes it's annoying, but guess what, that's my choice to bring a bag on that side is my second bag. I just and we get on the plane, usually among the first folks, and so we can see it all happening. So it's not affecting us, but I see it affecting the next person. We can actually see who it affects, and it's maddening to watch.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I got a better view of it because on the way here I flew you guys were in first class.
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Speaker 1: I was back and coached.
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Speaker 2: The flight attendant was barking in everybody and we applauded it, like hell yeah, but ice the rules. It happens. I'm shocked at how many people still do this. Folks, fellow travelers, please please only roller bags up top. Do not put your smaller bags up there. It takes space from people, and it's it's awful.
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Speaker 3: Okay, two you have I think people who can't control their kids who are in school. School age children should be able to behave and so screaming, yelling, crying, kicking my seat, just being unbelievably obnoxious and disruptive. I understand babies, that's a whole other thing. Do not like I that that is tough. I have been a mom with babies on a plane. I know how hard that is. But when you have school age kids just acting horrifically, that will just get under my skin.
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Speaker 4: Beyond words, don't see anything else you say, Yes.
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Speaker 3: Loud talking people, it's just right behind you having the loudest conversation. That's Awesometimes, we know, I think we try to whisper, we do we do, and because I'm always are and if I start to get excited, you're like, babe, your voice. So but I understand, like, just because you're in a again, you're in a confined space. So just being loud, not bringing your your air pods and playing video games and I'm going boom, you.
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Speaker 4: Know all of that.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's just it's basically not recognizing that you're in a shared space.
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Speaker 2: My only one, my number one might be I mean, obviously the stuff we've thamed here and the basic stuff, and we'll give you the official list. A couple of things are on it that you've already named robes. My biggest thing is how people treat flight attendants. You know, that drives me crazy, it does, see it. I hate how people talk the flight attendants. Even when they're not being rude to them, they're being kind of just awful to them by treating them as some kind of a servant man.
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Speaker 1: That drives me crazy.
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Speaker 4: I get that.
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Speaker 3: And you know what, it's funny because when we were looking at what flight attendants have said about passengers, you know, it's interesting a couple of the things that they've talked about that bothered them the most that I didn't even think about. First of all, they said the number one thing issue that bothers them is when people don't lock the bathroom door because they say it causes so many problems. People forget to lock it, people walk in on them, then they get and I was like, oh, I didn't even think that that would be something that would be a huge problem for flight attendants. But they say it causes so many issues because people forget to lock the bathroom door.
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Speaker 2: So that was there because the light doesn't come on also, and then people start lining up and coming.
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Speaker 3: The other thing they said is they hate it when you call do the call button the worst thing, and well, not that, and you ask them to take away their trash, take away your trash. For some reason, they said that don't hit the call button and say take care of this trash like they don't.
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Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, that makes sense.
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Speaker 3: They they come through exactly to stick it in the front pocket until they come ask for it.
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Speaker 1: That's one.
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Speaker 3: Don't do the call button and say take away my trash.
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Speaker 2: Servant the official list, this makes sense of bad airline passenger etiquette.
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Speaker 1: People that take up the armrest.
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Speaker 3: Oh you had this in the flight Remember you said she didn't realize that your arm rest actually controlled your television, and so she kept using your armrests and changing the channel.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't tough, you know what. I wasn't even it wasn't even a matter of share in the space.
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Speaker 2: It was just by the my screencapt she never noticed, never noticed once. Another one here, people who have those huge carry ons and then they spend time trying to shove it, stuff it into the measuring.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not going to work.
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Speaker 2: They take up so much of your time because you knew that bag was too big when you came right and now you're holding up the line. Another thing, I think you might deal with this more than I do, because I give off certain vibes you do.
00:21:30
Speaker 1: People that it's too much small talk.
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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. Even sometimes AirPods don't discourage folks.
00:21:35
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but yeah, you always say I'm not that invitings. Some people know to leave me alone, not to talk to you. Here's another one. This I didn't think about this. People that drink too much. Oh that's a big annoyance on a plane.
00:21:47
Speaker 3: That can make a plane have to be diverted. You could be taken off in handcuffs.
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Speaker 2: The other thing listening to somebody else's music or entertainment you were just talking about, like kids, games and whatnot.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to bring That's why what headphones were invented for that reason exactly.
00:22:01
Speaker 1: We've mentioned this before.
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Speaker 2: I said, I'm just going to walk around with sets of air pods on me and just hand them out to people who are blasting there whatever that I don't want to hear.
00:22:09
Speaker 3: Maybe not that expensive, Maybe just some wired headphones.
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Speaker 1: The other thing Rose already talked about, smells is on.
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Speaker 3: The list, your food, your perfume, even anything people.
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Speaker 4: Oh, haven't had that happen?
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Speaker 3: Haven't you had people like pull out perfume on a plane or or a lotion, and all of a sudden, the whole cabin. You're like, Okay, I don't want to smell your floral, sickening sweet perfume. Now that just has permeated the entire first class cabin or whatever.
00:22:36
Speaker 4: It's awful.
00:22:37
Speaker 1: Sounds like you fly at first classes. I do.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'll fully admit it. I'm not going to try to pretend like I don't.
00:22:42
Speaker 2: I put it out we travel together. I just completely put it on you. The next thing has to do with the kids. Mind your kid. Now, we understand a baby will baby is different. But there are some kids that are cutting up and making noise that the parents don't even seem to acknowledge.
00:22:56
Speaker 3: Yes, they just ignore them because they're used to it. But none of us, nor do we want to be. And I'll never get used to it. Also, running up and down the aisles like it's just we've seen unbelievable behavior. Oh and leaning the seedback that thing. Oh, people do it all the time, babe. Especially Look, we have phone coach and when you fly coach and someone leans their seedback.
00:23:16
Speaker 4: I actually cannot believe. We were on a I think it was a flight from Fantville.
00:23:21
Speaker 3: We were in the back and someone of course I always have the seat leaner on me, and I'm like.
00:23:26
Speaker 4: This is you Actually it's so claustrophobic.
00:23:29
Speaker 3: I cannot so because of that feeling, I don't do it to other people.
00:23:33
Speaker 2: That makes sense, Okay, look, folks, happy flying. I don't know robes, what the what the rules should be. I guess just be kind. Why can't we just think about that?
00:23:42
Speaker 1: Be kind?
00:23:43
Speaker 2: If I opened up a hole somebody sitting next to her with the most awful smelling, whatever it might be, they are a bunch of foul odors. There a bunch of stuff that does not belong in an interior cabin because it stinks.
00:23:55
Speaker 3: And don't take your socks off, please. I understand people take their shoes off on long flights. Don't take your socks off next please please. Oh, they've even had conversations light attendants have people clipping their nails, like actually doing hygiene on the plane just in preparation for landing. It's just it's so gross. This is not your personal bathroom.
00:24:15
Speaker 1: What's the annoying thing you do on a plane? Com plain about what?
00:24:20
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, what's the annoying thing I do on a plane? I mean, maybe the only thing I've done is maybe I've gotten stuck into a conversation, so I've talked. But I really do try to be mindful. And when I had my kids, I was especially mindful. Just didn't want them. I just I've flown enough, and there was a time in our lives where I was flying two to three times a week. I just learned what not to do based on what I hated seeing in other flyers and passengers.
00:24:50
Speaker 1: Well, folks, happy flying out there.
00:24:52
Speaker 2: Be kind to your fellow passenger, please and whatever way you can, even though you have the right to do certain things on the plane.
00:25:00
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Look, let's make being considerate cool instead of this new thing about how being selfish is somehow like restorative and healing.
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Speaker 4: No, it's still just selfish.
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Speaker 3: Let's be kind, let's be respectful, and let's be considerate.
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Speaker 4: And with that, everyone, thank you as always for listening to us. I made me robot alongside TJ.
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Speaker 3: Holmes.
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Speaker 4: We're about to get on a plane. Wish us luck.
Speaker 1: Hey, that folks did.
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Speaker 2: Is Monday, May twenty fifth, It's Memorial Day. A lot of people hopping on planes and a lot of poor plane etiquette is probably going to be exercised. Well, how about this one, who's in the wrong. When you pull out a big old plate of food and open it up and stink up the cabin, you have the right to do that? Or do your fellow passengers have every right to complain with that? Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ brows why were we even talking about this?
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Speaker 3: So there is a video on TikTok that went viral. A young woman named Lauren Wall says she's twenty eight years old. She was on a flight from Florida to Atlanta, so not a very long flight, but she says that she didn't really want to pay for overpriced, crappy food at the airport costs a lot.
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Speaker 4: Yep.
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Speaker 3: Knows she isn't going to get anything on the plane these days, you got a plane ahead, So she said she decided to pack up some leftovers in her refrigerator and eat.
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Speaker 4: And eat it on the plane, all right.
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Speaker 3: So she was so annoyed during the plane that another passenger was annoyed by her that she started to take a video of herself eating her chicken thighs garlic chicken thighs.
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Speaker 4: Whoa on the plane?
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Speaker 3: So on screen on the caption of her eating her garlic chicken thighs, she said, you're gonna go off.
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Speaker 4: I know you.
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Speaker 3: Me facing my fears eating chicken thighs on the plane and a man eating cheese.
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Speaker 4: It's in front of me, screaming.
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Speaker 3: It stinks, but I finished them in peace because the way I feel in my body is more important than some random guy's uncomfortability with salt, pepper and garlic.
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Speaker 4: I'm waiting for your reaction.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm she said it to video.
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Speaker 1: She wrote it.
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Speaker 4: She wrote it in a caption.
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Speaker 3: As she is eating, she puts some music and stuff on behind, and she put this up on the caption, basically saying that the way I feel in my body is more important than someone else who I've just made uncomfortable.
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Speaker 1: Okay, before we uh, I'm gonna call them down just a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Before I can see you breathing heavy. The big thing is me facing my fears, is how she captured it.
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Speaker 1: Oh, here's how did people react to this?
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Speaker 3: What's the oh, she's getting slammed, basically calling her selfish. Yes, people can wear earplugs or put on a sleep mask, but smell is the only sense you can't cover up or ignore, said one comment that got twenty eight thousand likes. The one comment got twenty eight thousand likes, So.
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Speaker 1: There is there anyone defending her.
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Speaker 3: One person said, this is the only one I can These comments are wild and not what I expected. I get, like tuna or something, but chicken is very mild. They're just saying it because it was chicken. Apparently it had a strong odor of garlic.
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Speaker 2: That person obviously didn't read into the story well enough to understand this was not just plain baked chicken.
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Speaker 4: Yes. Can I tell you what she said after the response oh she's got more?
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Speaker 1: Yes, ok.
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Speaker 3: She said, All I know is that this was a huge step from me in my growth of being able to stick to what makes me feel good, knowing that it's not going to make everybody the happiest. And she described herself as a recovering people pleaser.
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Speaker 1: Okay, she needs to go back to that.
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Speaker 2: She needs to relapse, completely, relapse into people pleasing. This is simple stuff, just a lack of consideration for anybody else on earth. I don't give a damn about anybody else, Robes. I'm not even I am so disappointed in hearing something like that. Maybe she's just trying to get attention or followers. Maybe she's being tongue in cheek. Maybe it wasn't for real.
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Speaker 4: Oh, I don't think she's being a tongue in cheek, and I think she is being for real.
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Speaker 2: Well, man, I hope we all battle this instinct, and maybe younger people to think that you that everything you want is more important than everybody else, like gee to put it in phrase of a step or growth or journey or some personal as if you can't be challenged now because now this is a part of me being a better person. It's a regression, Robes to the person selfishness we want to be. It's a regression from being a good person. Because you stated you actually don't care about anybody else on this PCT.
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Speaker 4: That's part of your journey into self discovery.
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Speaker 3: See that's the concerning part to me, because we actually had talked about doing an episode on this, and we should.
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Speaker 4: We haven't done it yet.
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Speaker 3: About younger folks now using therapy terms to basically justify bad behavior, and it's all about your journey into self discovery and self love. And actually what it is is incredibly selfish and and inconsiderate to other people oftentimes, but now we're able to shape it, whether it comes to a relationship you're in and how you treat the other person, or how you act just in general with the public. You're protecting your peace at all costs. And then they use words that we all have heard in therapy to defend their behavior, and that is alarming and disturbing because now they feel like they actually have like scientifically backed evidence that what they're doing is not only okay but important for self introspective in introspection, and that's concerning.
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Speaker 2: Because everybody else's life and comfort be damned, we just shouldn't be. I don't know this young lady, so trying to I was trying to leave space for something Rose, but I just I don't want to criticize her. But the idea that we're talking about robes is very scary. And you use this word I've jumped out at me when you said it. You said, we're using it to shape We are using rude behavior, bad behavior inconsiderate behavior sometimes even in decent behavior. We're using that now and we're able to shape that now Robes into a part of my growth as a positive in some way, En Robes. That is really because we now there is we have an excuse for everything we do. We have an excuse for bad behavior on the plane.
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Speaker 1: Robes.
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Speaker 2: It's one I've We've joked we fly so much together now that I don't get to do it as much. But I've been on planes. I said, you ain't gonna believe what this woman is opening up next to me, like, oh my god, there are across the aisle.
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Speaker 1: I already see.
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Speaker 2: I've sent you things before where the bag said Rosco's biscuits and whatever. And I'm like, lord, I know there's gonna be a long flight. Robes, I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I have never opened my mouth once to say anybody, just to anybody, or to complain at all. It's part of it sometimes and you have to stomach it. But Robes, I would never bring garlic truffle fries onto a plane and open them up because it stinks.
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Speaker 4: That would be but it happens.
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Speaker 3: It happens in almost every flight and then the question is what is acceptable and what isn't. And look, I just think this is all about consideration at the end of the day. And we live in New York City, and I think we, more than others might recognize how important it is to be considerate because we are in a small geographic area and we all have to share space, including even apartments where you've got noise people from above and below. You take your shoes off, not just because you want your apartment clean, but because you don't want to disturb your neighbors downstairs as well, noise with our you know, however, we want to crank our.
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Speaker 4: Speakers like all of that.
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Speaker 3: We have to always consider our neighbors because we're all in such close proximity. So maybe we're more hyper aware of it than others who might live out in wide open spaces can do what they want, yell as loud as they want, blast their music as loud as they want, and put any gaudy thing they want on their lawn and no one cares. But when you live in a small confined area, and when you're on a bus, on a subway, on a plane, you're in a shared environment. And I just feel like human decency demands that you be respectful of other people's rights to enjoy their space. And I do think that was so well put. Even if someone has their their kid playing their video game, which is annoying. Yes, I can put headphones on and drown him out. I don't prefer to do it. But a smell you cannot escape a smell.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad she didn't have bad gas because she wouldn't give a damn about what everybody else feels in this cabin. I'm going to stink it up because that's what makes me feel better.
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Speaker 1: Robes.
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Speaker 2: I again, I'm trying to leave room. And I do not want to dump on this person because we don't know this person. But the scenario at least rogues. Why is it we don't have that considered right? You're talking about walking I till on New York. I think about this all the time, just on the sidewalk it's crowded. Do you choose to move over.
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Speaker 1: A little bit?
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Speaker 2: Are you gonna make room for everybody else? And I always think about this, Robes when I get mad on the running path.
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Speaker 1: Happens a lot of time.
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Speaker 4: We see this all the time.
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Speaker 1: People are three across on the path.
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Speaker 3: With a double stroller a dog that they let their leash go seven feet wide, and you cannot get around.
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Speaker 1: Now unless you hurdle their child.
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Speaker 2: Perhaps people do this all the time because they're not thinking about everybody else. They're not being considerate. And I always think to myself, and I never get mad. I said, they have as much right to this pathway as I do, and within that is their right to be an asshole. I think that about a plane.
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Speaker 4: You say that, but I have a hard time with that.
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, they have the right.
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Speaker 2: She has the right to open that chicken on that plane because she has the right to that space too, And within her right robes is the right to not be considerate of anybody else.
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Speaker 4: I hear you. But you know what got me the most. Here's the deal.
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Speaker 3: All of that could have happened, and find she she did what she wanted to do, but she felt so empowered about her right that she actually decided to make a TikTok video and put it out for everyone to let them know that the way her body feels is more important than some random guy's uncomfortability with how her food smells.
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Speaker 2: And he wasn't the only one, by the way, even though it's only one we're talking about.
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Speaker 1: Everybody hated.
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Speaker 3: Yes, they were all saying it stinks, it smells and look for her to and just to call him some random guy.
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Speaker 4: Guess what, he's a human being. That's what we do. We act like what we want and what we need is more important than some random person.
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Speaker 1: Did you have his picture? I see him in the video.
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Speaker 4: I didn't see him in the video.
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Speaker 3: But but to just label somebody like that also diminishes their right to feel or think anything.
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Speaker 4: You are now dehumanizing them.
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Speaker 2: You know what that happened to me in the recent I didn't tell you about this. This is a totally random thing. Almost woman did this to me in the half marathon.
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Speaker 1: We just did a mystic.
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Speaker 2: Really, I'm running and I'm catching literally why lady say, who is your white lady sitting on the side another white lady she was rooting for. I was running up the hill and was about to blow past this other lady. Nob did We're not competing? She's rooting for that lady and say, come on, come on, don't let this random dude get past you.
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Speaker 1: He said that to me as I'm running.
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Speaker 4: Wow, that's weird.
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Speaker 1: No, I haven't thought you said she called him a random?
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Speaker 3: Wee? Do you say when you when you make that comment, it's it's dehumanizing that other person or or suggesting that somehow their existence is meaningless.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think of it's the random things.
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Speaker 3: The time way to describe somebody. You were already setting the tone when he described somebody like that good thing. I was running and I'm sure you easily passed her and she didn't. That didn't inspire her. It just defended jail.
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Speaker 2: Just the random when you say that, world, Wow, that's the thing people say.
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Speaker 1: I guess.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, this lay on the plane, what do you do, Robes, We've had this happen before. Have you ever actually complained about it? I would guess No.
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Speaker 3: No, I've just been irritated and annoyed and thought, how unbelievably rude is that person. But to think that person felt so empowered that they wanted to show the world what they did and applaud themselves for it and say I faced my fears. That is where I actually have a that's a whole other level of complete and total.
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Speaker 4: I don't even know what the word is for it.
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Speaker 3: Entitlement, disturbing entitlement that I'm seeing more and more of. There's no it's like applauded to not consider other people.
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Speaker 1: Damn say that shit again for the people in the back.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, lauded like she wanted credit for not being considerate. That is weird and scary and I feel like a growing trend again.
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Speaker 2: I want to leave space to whatever this young lady may have gone through in her life and where she is in her life that calls her to do this, And maybe she'll come around and say this isn't really what I meant, or maybe she will get gained some perspective. But at least as far as what you've said so far robes, she has doubled down on this.
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Speaker 3: Position without a doubt. This is her journey. Need to self help?
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Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait to fly with or where was it Florida?
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Speaker 3: At Florida to Atlanta? And that was other people were saying, it's a two hour flight. Why did you have to have food on the flight, like you It wasn't like a transatlantic flight where you were going to actually be hungry. Come on, you can go two hours without eating your garlic chicken thighs from two nights ago.
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Speaker 1: I had to ask one last thing, what time a day was a flight? Uh?
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Speaker 4: Just I actually just don't curiodes.
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Speaker 1: How can you pull out garlic chicken?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: She yeah, garlic chicken.
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Speaker 4: She said, I like. Okay. She did try to defend herself. This is funny. Okay, let me let me read the last little bit from her.
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Speaker 3: She said, it's not like I'm sitting in my kitchen with ten hours of free time being like I'm going to load up the garlets that this man can feel it. She actually got offended that people thought she did it on purpose. No, but what you did still caused harm. She said, I think that this is the story. A lot of people decided to make me the villain, in which is okay because they don't know me. Hopefully it reached the right people who are kind of afraid of doing something a little bit different, maybe bringing their own food to a restaurant with friends, or if they're not drinking, if they don't want to drink when they're going out in social situations. It can feel uncomfortable when it feels like you're doing it differently from the vast majority.
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Speaker 4: Of the world.
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Speaker 1: She's a hero.
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Speaker 3: She is absolutely trying to make herself a leader in the quest to do things differently. She's actually equating this to choosing not to drink with a group of friends. I don't know how she got there, but in her mind she went there.
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Speaker 2: Well, oh, I don't know her, so I don't know what's going on with her and why she would do that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's perplexed and I just have to stop short of there is. I don't know her, so I'm not going to criticize this young woman. But it's just like you said, Robes, it's scary. But this idea of folks eating on the plane, we have our own life things where we get most annoyed. Back stay here about stay here, We'll tell you what annoys us most, but we'll give you the official lists, if you will, of the most annoying violations of air passenger etiquette.
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Speaker 1: Stay here and.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ.
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Speaker 3: A lot of folks are flying on this Monday, on this Memorial Day Monday, headed back home. But this is really truly the beginning of major travel season.
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Speaker 4: We've got the summer months ahead of us.
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Speaker 3: Folks are getting on planes, and this young woman took to TikTok to defend herself and almost to applaud herself give herself a pat on the back. Not almost, she did saying she was facing her fear bringing her stinky garlic chicken thighs on the plane and was exceptionally offended when someone else told her it stinks, and was upset. Some passengers were upset that she made the entire cabin smell like garlic chicken thighs. But it's her right and she's on her journey to self love. But that got us thinking about what our most Did you hear the sarcasm dripping from me when I spoke, Okay, we started to come up with and we have an official list, but I was actually just gonna just list off some of the things, and I'm hopefully this will resonate with a lot of folks of just rude passenger behavior. I think Number one for me is watching people take their purses or their small backpacks and put it up in the overhead space where there is limited space for carry on luggage only, and people think that they should be able to put their second, you know, personal item up there, and therefore folks who have roller bags can't get their baggage job. That really irritates me because it's so selfish and you are really screwing your fellow passenger When you can easily put it underneath your seat.
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Speaker 1: That might be number one for you.
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Speaker 2: And we see this happen all the time, and even if it's not impacting us, it pisses us off. It is so inconsidered. Yeah, you're put it under your seat. You really need to stretch out that much that bag, And somebody's gonna have to check their bag at the gate because you want your purse backpack up top.
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Speaker 4: And guess what I get it.
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Speaker 3: I have a second carry on that's as large as it can be, the personal back, and I have it in front of me. And sometimes it's annoying, but guess what, that's my choice to bring a bag on that side is my second bag. I just and we get on the plane, usually among the first folks, and so we can see it all happening. So it's not affecting us, but I see it affecting the next person. We can actually see who it affects, and it's maddening to watch.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I got a better view of it because on the way here I flew you guys were in first class.
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Speaker 1: I was back and coached.
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Speaker 2: The flight attendant was barking in everybody and we applauded it, like hell yeah, but ice the rules. It happens. I'm shocked at how many people still do this. Folks, fellow travelers, please please only roller bags up top. Do not put your smaller bags up there. It takes space from people, and it's it's awful.
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Speaker 3: Okay, two you have I think people who can't control their kids who are in school. School age children should be able to behave and so screaming, yelling, crying, kicking my seat, just being unbelievably obnoxious and disruptive. I understand babies, that's a whole other thing. Do not like I that that is tough. I have been a mom with babies on a plane. I know how hard that is. But when you have school age kids just acting horrifically, that will just get under my skin.
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Speaker 4: Beyond words, don't see anything else you say, Yes.
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Speaker 3: Loud talking people, it's just right behind you having the loudest conversation. That's Awesometimes, we know, I think we try to whisper, we do we do, and because I'm always are and if I start to get excited, you're like, babe, your voice. So but I understand, like, just because you're in a again, you're in a confined space. So just being loud, not bringing your your air pods and playing video games and I'm going boom, you.
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Speaker 4: Know all of that.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's just it's basically not recognizing that you're in a shared space.
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Speaker 2: My only one, my number one might be I mean, obviously the stuff we've thamed here and the basic stuff, and we'll give you the official list. A couple of things are on it that you've already named robes. My biggest thing is how people treat flight attendants. You know, that drives me crazy, it does, see it. I hate how people talk the flight attendants. Even when they're not being rude to them, they're being kind of just awful to them by treating them as some kind of a servant man.
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Speaker 1: That drives me crazy.
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Speaker 4: I get that.
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Speaker 3: And you know what, it's funny because when we were looking at what flight attendants have said about passengers, you know, it's interesting a couple of the things that they've talked about that bothered them the most that I didn't even think about. First of all, they said the number one thing issue that bothers them is when people don't lock the bathroom door because they say it causes so many problems. People forget to lock it, people walk in on them, then they get and I was like, oh, I didn't even think that that would be something that would be a huge problem for flight attendants. But they say it causes so many issues because people forget to lock the bathroom door.
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Speaker 2: So that was there because the light doesn't come on also, and then people start lining up and coming.
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Speaker 3: The other thing they said is they hate it when you call do the call button the worst thing, and well, not that, and you ask them to take away their trash, take away your trash. For some reason, they said that don't hit the call button and say take care of this trash like they don't.
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Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, that makes sense.
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Speaker 3: They they come through exactly to stick it in the front pocket until they come ask for it.
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Speaker 1: That's one.
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Speaker 3: Don't do the call button and say take away my trash.
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Speaker 2: Servant the official list, this makes sense of bad airline passenger etiquette.
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Speaker 1: People that take up the armrest.
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Speaker 3: Oh you had this in the flight Remember you said she didn't realize that your arm rest actually controlled your television, and so she kept using your armrests and changing the channel.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't tough, you know what. I wasn't even it wasn't even a matter of share in the space.
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Speaker 2: It was just by the my screencapt she never noticed, never noticed once. Another one here, people who have those huge carry ons and then they spend time trying to shove it, stuff it into the measuring.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not going to work.
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Speaker 2: They take up so much of your time because you knew that bag was too big when you came right and now you're holding up the line. Another thing, I think you might deal with this more than I do, because I give off certain vibes you do.
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Speaker 1: People that it's too much small talk.
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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. Even sometimes AirPods don't discourage folks.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but yeah, you always say I'm not that invitings. Some people know to leave me alone, not to talk to you. Here's another one. This I didn't think about this. People that drink too much. Oh that's a big annoyance on a plane.
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Speaker 3: That can make a plane have to be diverted. You could be taken off in handcuffs.
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Speaker 2: The other thing listening to somebody else's music or entertainment you were just talking about, like kids, games and whatnot.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to bring That's why what headphones were invented for that reason exactly.
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Speaker 1: We've mentioned this before.
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Speaker 2: I said, I'm just going to walk around with sets of air pods on me and just hand them out to people who are blasting there whatever that I don't want to hear.
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Speaker 3: Maybe not that expensive, Maybe just some wired headphones.
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Speaker 1: The other thing Rose already talked about, smells is on.
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Speaker 3: The list, your food, your perfume, even anything people.
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Speaker 4: Oh, haven't had that happen?
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Speaker 3: Haven't you had people like pull out perfume on a plane or or a lotion, and all of a sudden, the whole cabin. You're like, Okay, I don't want to smell your floral, sickening sweet perfume. Now that just has permeated the entire first class cabin or whatever.
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Speaker 4: It's awful.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like you fly at first classes. I do.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'll fully admit it. I'm not going to try to pretend like I don't.
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Speaker 2: I put it out we travel together. I just completely put it on you. The next thing has to do with the kids. Mind your kid. Now, we understand a baby will baby is different. But there are some kids that are cutting up and making noise that the parents don't even seem to acknowledge.
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Speaker 3: Yes, they just ignore them because they're used to it. But none of us, nor do we want to be. And I'll never get used to it. Also, running up and down the aisles like it's just we've seen unbelievable behavior. Oh and leaning the seedback that thing. Oh, people do it all the time, babe. Especially Look, we have phone coach and when you fly coach and someone leans their seedback.
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Speaker 4: I actually cannot believe. We were on a I think it was a flight from Fantville.
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Speaker 3: We were in the back and someone of course I always have the seat leaner on me, and I'm like.
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Speaker 4: This is you Actually it's so claustrophobic.
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Speaker 3: I cannot so because of that feeling, I don't do it to other people.
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Speaker 2: That makes sense, Okay, look, folks, happy flying. I don't know robes, what the what the rules should be. I guess just be kind. Why can't we just think about that?
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Speaker 1: Be kind?
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Speaker 2: If I opened up a hole somebody sitting next to her with the most awful smelling, whatever it might be, they are a bunch of foul odors. There a bunch of stuff that does not belong in an interior cabin because it stinks.
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Speaker 3: And don't take your socks off, please. I understand people take their shoes off on long flights. Don't take your socks off next please please. Oh, they've even had conversations light attendants have people clipping their nails, like actually doing hygiene on the plane just in preparation for landing. It's just it's so gross. This is not your personal bathroom.
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Speaker 1: What's the annoying thing you do on a plane? Com plain about what?
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, what's the annoying thing I do on a plane? I mean, maybe the only thing I've done is maybe I've gotten stuck into a conversation, so I've talked. But I really do try to be mindful. And when I had my kids, I was especially mindful. Just didn't want them. I just I've flown enough, and there was a time in our lives where I was flying two to three times a week. I just learned what not to do based on what I hated seeing in other flyers and passengers.
00:24:50
Speaker 1: Well, folks, happy flying out there.
00:24:52
Speaker 2: Be kind to your fellow passenger, please and whatever way you can, even though you have the right to do certain things on the plane.
00:25:00
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:25:00
Speaker 3: Look, let's make being considerate cool instead of this new thing about how being selfish is somehow like restorative and healing.
00:25:09
Speaker 4: No, it's still just selfish.
00:25:12
Speaker 3: Let's be kind, let's be respectful, and let's be considerate.
00:25:17
Speaker 4: And with that, everyone, thank you as always for listening to us. I made me robot alongside TJ.
00:25:22
Speaker 3: Holmes.
00:25:22
Speaker 4: We're about to get on a plane. Wish us luck.