May 26, 2026
Mango Heir Denies He Murdered Billionaire Father, Steps Down As Vice President
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RSS Feed 45-year-old Jonathan Andic is speaking out and defending himself exactly one week after he was arrested for suspicion of murdering his father, 71-year-old Mango founder, Isak Andic. In an open letter to Mango employees announcing his decision to temporarily step away from his position, Jonathan said dismantling the painful, false narrative requires him to focus solely on his legal defense. Mango, in turn, also released a statement conveying their full support for Jonathan and the entire Andic family.
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00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey, the folks. It is Tuesday, May twenty sixth, and a dead billionaire, his son accused, and now the future of an international fashion brand hangs in the balance. And with that, Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ were following up Robes on the story we talked about last week. The founder of Mango died in twenty twenty four, but just recently his son has been arrested and accused of killing his dad, who took a tumble down a cliff during a hike CrOx.
00:00:36
Speaker 2: Yep A father son hike December fourteenth, twenty twenty four, as you pointed out, and today exactly one week from the day that Jonathan Andisch was arrested for suspicion of homicide. He is now speaking out for the first time and stepping down from his significant position at Mango.
00:00:58
Speaker 1: This is their company, This is the families company. Robes, I only know I swear I only know Mango because of you. You've dragged me into a couple of stores a couple of times. But this brand has three thousand stores all over the world, and he started it from the ground up, literally me to It's really impressive. Robes all oftentimes he's a billionaire and we just see the end result. This dude started this company from the street.
00:01:22
Speaker 2: Yes, Jonathan Andisch's father, Isaac Andich, who died at the age of seventy one, devoted his entire life to building this brand, beginning with a single store in Barcelona, a T shirt shop, and built it into what it is today. It is a direct competitor with Zara, and it's doing gangbusters.
00:01:42
Speaker 3: Year over year.
00:01:42
Speaker 2: Thirty five stores, I believe here in the United States, as you pointed out, we've been in several of them. We got one here in Soho that I love to shop at. So Yes, we are hearing now from Jonathan who says he actually put out an open letter to Mango employees and he was in I did not kill my father, And he talks about how he has been dealing with now this very public beraatement of him, and he believes that now he has to prove his innocence, that he's being presumed guilty based on the core documents that were released last week, and certainly a lot of people are throwing shade, and he is now defending himself. And we've got actually his open letter. We can read parts of it and kind of talk about some of it because it's interesting. In between, Savago, we'll read through it and discuss in between, he begins, and this again is a letter to Mango employees. I write these words with sincerity and humility from a place of pain, helplessness, and frustration at facing a narrative of alleged guilt that does not reflect reality. About seventeen months ago, I lost my father under circumstances that were profoundly painful for me, my family, and those close to us. To this grief has been added the burden of living with the most serious, unjust and unfounded accusation a person can face. I want to express from the heart that I have loved and deeply loved my family and in a very special way, my father. We shared many happy, cherished, and affectionate moments together. As in many families, we also had difficult and complex times which we overcame with great effort, generosity and help. The love, respect, and bond we have always felt are part of our families DNA, as those who know us well can attest. Now that is interesting because he is directly trying to combat some of these WhatsApp messages that the judge and the court documents released that they claim show a very strained father son relationship.
00:03:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have them with our parents, and when there's a lot of money involved that might be a little more strength. I can get what he's saying potentially there. But it's just interesting that he's going about trying to answer things tit for tat almost because this story, even though you're not hearing as much about it here in the United States, this is a prominent prominent family in Spain, and this is a prominent prominent brand in Spain. This story is all over the place there and you could argue in a lot of ways is not going well for him the way things have gotten going. But at least the company has been standing behind him. He has that. But you could see he's very aware of what's going on and feels like he needs to be combating this from a PR standpoint.
00:04:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's absolutely going on a PR campaign here because look, as part of the investigation, he had to hand over his phone and those messages came out, and according to the judge, he described the messages as feelings of hatred, resentment, and thoughts of death, blaming his father for his situation that's tough to overcome when now he's being accused of murdering him, and now he's trying to say, now, you know, we had our problems, so does every family. So he's trying to combat that specific lee. Now he goes on to say, a public narrative has been constructed with a partial decontextualized and distorted view, which has created a perception of guilt that is far from reality. I know that dismantling it will require time, effort, and intense dedication. The attention and focus required for my defense in the legal proceedings do not at this time allow me to maintain the high level of commitment that my role in the company demands. For this reason, and out of a sense of responsibility, I have decided to temporarily step away from my dedication to Mango, while maintaining connection to other family.
00:05:43
Speaker 3: Business and social projects.
00:05:45
Speaker 2: He says, I make this decision with sadness, but I am convinced that it is the best for the company and for me. I face this process with serenity and fortitude, and I need to concentrate all my energy on proving my inner That was a lengthy statement. That was it from top to bottom. And that's the first we have heard from him since his arrest. I can only imagine what these seven days of silence have felt like, reading the headlines and hearing all the people commenting on what they think happened versus what he knows happened.
00:06:22
Speaker 3: He was the only witness.
00:06:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, and lots being pieced together. There's a reason, people, it's not just coming from nowhere. But it took quite a while. Again, his father's death was a year and a half ago, and he's just now being hauled in and a lot of folks start to wonder why. And I guess we should explain why this has now come up again and what people are piecing together. Look at circumstantial evidence. There's no hard evidence of anything, but a lot of this stuff doesn't make sense.
00:06:50
Speaker 3: That's right.
00:06:51
Speaker 2: And because after the arrest and the court documents that were made public, the findings are right now, they don't look good. There are inconsistent statements according to the judge that Jonathan told police he only hiked one time in that mountain. GPS shows he was there three times the week before his father's death. There's a scuff mark on the ground that isn't consistent with a slip or a fall. The autopsy reports also suggest that Isaac and Itch went feet first. That isn't consistent with a trip or a fall.
00:07:28
Speaker 1: I don't understand that. I mean it could. I mean, people slip off a mountain all the time. You trip and fall forward, but there, we've been on steep slopes before. I don't understand how. I mean they see. I take them at their word, but just listening to that, Yeah, you take a wrong step, you slip, and you go straight down of deep embankment. I've seen that.
00:07:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like if you get too close to the edge you could lose your footing and fall feet first. But they were saying that the fall isn't consistent with a forward fall. But you know, I even actually feel like if you were pushed, wouldn't you fall forward? You know, obviously they know the scene and they've they've forensically been able to try to figure out at least piece together what they think the most likely scenario is. And they're saying the most likely scenario is not an accidental trip or fall, that instead it is a push. That scuff mark on the ground. They were saying it there was a deep indention, and that would imply that there was some sort of a force behind the fall that he would have that he appeared his body appeared to have been catapulted off the mountain, and that also wouldn't be consistent with a slip.
00:08:38
Speaker 3: It's very interesting. And then the big, big, big.
00:08:42
Speaker 2: Motive part of this well apparently, and they say that messages support this. Jonathan Anditch had just found out that his father Isaac was planning to make major changes to his will and that didn't sit well according to the judge, or at least that's the belief with son Jonathan, who stood to gain a lot of money.
00:09:05
Speaker 3: We're talking billions in the b.
00:09:07
Speaker 1: Oh God's again, that's circumstantial, but I mean, watch a lot of murder cases. Money is smack dab in the middle of the motive oftentimes, so and again it doesn't mean anything, doesn't prove anything, but a lot of this stuff is adding up, and I guess that's why police made the move they did. He is out on bail, he posted the million plus dollars and is out. But now he's got a lot of work to do and it's going to cost him probably a lot of money roads, not just in matter of a defense, but in a matter of pr you know, he's gotten the best firms and teams out there combating this thing right now.
00:09:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he has the full support of his company, Mango. So when we come back, we will tell you what Mango's official response was. Today they also released his statement, and we'll tell you what's next, because it's a little different in Spain than it is here in the United States about where this case goes from.
00:10:00
Speaker 3: Here and.
00:10:10
Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ. We are hearing for the very first time from forty five year old Jonathan Anditch, who up until today was the executive vice president of Mango. He of course, was the heir to his billionaire father's fortune. His father, Isaac Anditch, fell off a step cliff on a father son hike a year and a half ago. Initially was ruled an accident, but now last week Jonathan Andch was arrested on suspicion of homicide of murdering his father, and today, one week later, he has officially stepped down from his role as executive vice president, but with the support of his company.
00:10:54
Speaker 3: And that's of note. We see on the.
00:10:57
Speaker 2: Website today that they they quote chairman and chief executive Officer Tony Ruiz saying he has his utmost respect, understanding and support, and they just were letting the public know that they absolutely are behind Jonathan and Itch.
00:11:14
Speaker 3: They also express their gratitude.
00:11:15
Speaker 2: They say they're getting a lot of messages from people who are supporting Mango and supporting Jonathan. They wanted to think the public and their patrons for that, but they made it very clear. The members of the board of directors unanimously endorse Jonathan joined the Andach family in expressing support for him, and that has to mean something. The family is supporting him. He has two sisters. No one in the family is accusing him of doing anything wrong.
00:11:43
Speaker 1: The dad speaks volumes to me. We've seen things like this and the look. A lot of companies make a calculation to distance themselves even when there is a suspicion of wrongdoing or suggestion of wrongdoing from whoever the accused wrongdoer may be. But this is a guy, and this is a family. This is a name to tightly connected to Mango. To hear Mango distancing itself from the name, say the guy who founded the company his son. We got to kick him out to the curb. That can't be a good look. I don't know the calculation they're making here, and it might not be one. It might just simply be this is our guy, we love them, and we don't think we did it, and we will stand by him to the end.
00:12:27
Speaker 3: Could be that too, And look, billions developers are at stake.
00:12:30
Speaker 2: Though we know that we've mentioned this company and it was up I believe a year to year thirteen percent unheard of. We're reporting on brick and mortar stores shutting down, closing, having to suspend operations, having to tighten the budget. It's the opposite when it comes to this fast fashion chain. They are expanding and doing gangbusters. So yeah, this is not the kind of publicity they need or want. So it is a choice to support Jonathan in this look.
00:13:00
Speaker 1: Nobody in the US is going to stop going into a Mango store. However, Robes, what impression is this going to leave in all of Spain? How is this going to leave a stain on that family, which will leave a stain on that brand? And if it gets impacted there in Spain, it's going to get impacted everywhere else. So This is a big deal. There's a lot at stake beyond reputation and livelihood and somebody's ability to be free this I mean it would that's It's sad that the man passed the way he passed. Anyway, after building such a legacy, even if this was completely an accident, you don't want to see him go out like that. Yeah, but roves that think that legacy, Now what happens to it? He built this thing from think about it, some dude with T shirts running around just trying to make it. And he becomes a billionaire, and now this is It's sad.
00:13:45
Speaker 2: It's tough because look, I'm trying to imagine, say, Jonathan Anditch's innocent, which we have to assume, how awful would that be if on a father's son hike and you know that you are the heir, you know that you stand to inherit bills.
00:14:00
Speaker 3: You know how it looks.
00:14:02
Speaker 2: You know what people would have said even if they hadn't come forward and reopened the investigation and pointed the finger at him, you know, there would always be a cloud of suspicion hanging over you.
00:14:14
Speaker 1: That's weird, though, man, Just the circumstances and just the what are the chances, I mean, it's just a weird, weird story. Ros There's I wouldn't given all that was going on, I wouldn't want to be alone with my dad anywhere. I don't want anything to happen to him where somebody thinks I might be up to. So you've given all the money? Serious, Rods. I joke with you. Sometimes you fell and hurt yourself. There was a bruise on your arm. I said, please put a full shirt on, because I don't want anybody to think that. Maybe seriously, Babe, given some relationships and some things in the public and how things can be perceived, man, everybody probably already thought he was after his dad's money. Exactly right, Hey Dad, let's go on a hike together, just me and you.
00:14:58
Speaker 2: The thing that exactly and the thing that and look, he was an avid hiker. But the thing that really really to me, it's interesting, The thing that makes it seem the most suspicious is the fact that he told police that he went on one hike on that mountain beforehand, and his phone puts him on that exact same hiking trail three times.
00:15:19
Speaker 3: The week before. How do you explain.
00:15:22
Speaker 1: That and I don't know when that interview was given. Maybe he was upset about the death of his dad and maybe he couldn't recall that thing. I will leave some room for I don't know when that interview is done and whatnot. But it's uh, have you ever been out there before? No is tough if you've been there that many times. That's the week before it. Maybe he'd been two years ago and didn't really remember, that's one thing, But we're talking a week before.
00:15:48
Speaker 2: That's hard to explain. So here is We may find out those answers soon enough. This is an interesting process how they do it over there in Spain. So we saw the court's findings. You know, he has been arrested on suspicion, but he has not been formally charged. Whether or not he actually is formally charged depends on the next step. So Jonathan and Itch and his legal team now have the opportunity to respond to the court on the findings that they released.
00:16:19
Speaker 3: So they actually will get to.
00:16:20
Speaker 2: Kind of present their own evidence in defense of Jonathan to refute what these investigation findings are. They could even call witnesses to back up Jonathan's side of the story, and they'll all present this to the court, to the judge, and then the judge, upon hearing the defense's argument to the court findings, the judge will then decide whether or not to formally charge Jonathan. So it's almost like a little mini trial before the trial. Have you ever like he gets an opportunity to not get charged.
00:16:52
Speaker 1: Basically, well, it's kind of one of our It's like a preliminary hearing we have here in the US, which the judge still has that option, but it never happens.
00:17:00
Speaker 2: Right the way it was described, it did seem like a very heightened, intense preliminary hearing. So anyway, there's no we don't.
00:17:10
Speaker 3: Have a date on that yet.
00:17:11
Speaker 2: But once that happens, the judge will then be able to decide whether not to formally charge Jonathan or not. If he is formally charged with murder, then that will trigger a criminal jury trial, and I can only imagine that this will be the trial of the decade, at least there in Spain. And this will absolutely garner international attention given Mango and its reach.
00:17:37
Speaker 1: And even if he doesn't ultimately get charged and this all goes away, still this is going to be hanging over his head for a little bit, just the idea you were arrested, police thought you killed your dad, right if you didn't get charged for it. So it's almost one of those things you're a murderer. They just couldn't prove it like that follows you around kind of a thing.
00:17:56
Speaker 2: So it's a stain that never ever, you can't ever fully get rid of it. But I for Jonathan, at least for now, the fact that his two sisters are standing by him, the company is standing by him, the family is vigorously defending him, and he certainly will have an incredible amount of financial resources to defend himself, so he will have the best that money can buy. And we shall see how this all plays out in court in the coming weeks and months, and we will keep you updated on this developing story.
00:18:28
Speaker 3: As always, we appreciate you listening to us. Everyone. I'm Amy Robock alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey, the folks. It is Tuesday, May twenty sixth, and a dead billionaire, his son accused, and now the future of an international fashion brand hangs in the balance. And with that, Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ were following up Robes on the story we talked about last week. The founder of Mango died in twenty twenty four, but just recently his son has been arrested and accused of killing his dad, who took a tumble down a cliff during a hike CrOx.
00:00:36
Speaker 2: Yep A father son hike December fourteenth, twenty twenty four, as you pointed out, and today exactly one week from the day that Jonathan Andisch was arrested for suspicion of homicide. He is now speaking out for the first time and stepping down from his significant position at Mango.
00:00:58
Speaker 1: This is their company, This is the families company. Robes, I only know I swear I only know Mango because of you. You've dragged me into a couple of stores a couple of times. But this brand has three thousand stores all over the world, and he started it from the ground up, literally me to It's really impressive. Robes all oftentimes he's a billionaire and we just see the end result. This dude started this company from the street.
00:01:22
Speaker 2: Yes, Jonathan Andisch's father, Isaac Andich, who died at the age of seventy one, devoted his entire life to building this brand, beginning with a single store in Barcelona, a T shirt shop, and built it into what it is today. It is a direct competitor with Zara, and it's doing gangbusters.
00:01:42
Speaker 3: Year over year.
00:01:42
Speaker 2: Thirty five stores, I believe here in the United States, as you pointed out, we've been in several of them. We got one here in Soho that I love to shop at. So Yes, we are hearing now from Jonathan who says he actually put out an open letter to Mango employees and he was in I did not kill my father, And he talks about how he has been dealing with now this very public beraatement of him, and he believes that now he has to prove his innocence, that he's being presumed guilty based on the core documents that were released last week, and certainly a lot of people are throwing shade, and he is now defending himself. And we've got actually his open letter. We can read parts of it and kind of talk about some of it because it's interesting. In between, Savago, we'll read through it and discuss in between, he begins, and this again is a letter to Mango employees. I write these words with sincerity and humility from a place of pain, helplessness, and frustration at facing a narrative of alleged guilt that does not reflect reality. About seventeen months ago, I lost my father under circumstances that were profoundly painful for me, my family, and those close to us. To this grief has been added the burden of living with the most serious, unjust and unfounded accusation a person can face. I want to express from the heart that I have loved and deeply loved my family and in a very special way, my father. We shared many happy, cherished, and affectionate moments together. As in many families, we also had difficult and complex times which we overcame with great effort, generosity and help. The love, respect, and bond we have always felt are part of our families DNA, as those who know us well can attest. Now that is interesting because he is directly trying to combat some of these WhatsApp messages that the judge and the court documents released that they claim show a very strained father son relationship.
00:03:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have them with our parents, and when there's a lot of money involved that might be a little more strength. I can get what he's saying potentially there. But it's just interesting that he's going about trying to answer things tit for tat almost because this story, even though you're not hearing as much about it here in the United States, this is a prominent prominent family in Spain, and this is a prominent prominent brand in Spain. This story is all over the place there and you could argue in a lot of ways is not going well for him the way things have gotten going. But at least the company has been standing behind him. He has that. But you could see he's very aware of what's going on and feels like he needs to be combating this from a PR standpoint.
00:04:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's absolutely going on a PR campaign here because look, as part of the investigation, he had to hand over his phone and those messages came out, and according to the judge, he described the messages as feelings of hatred, resentment, and thoughts of death, blaming his father for his situation that's tough to overcome when now he's being accused of murdering him, and now he's trying to say, now, you know, we had our problems, so does every family. So he's trying to combat that specific lee. Now he goes on to say, a public narrative has been constructed with a partial decontextualized and distorted view, which has created a perception of guilt that is far from reality. I know that dismantling it will require time, effort, and intense dedication. The attention and focus required for my defense in the legal proceedings do not at this time allow me to maintain the high level of commitment that my role in the company demands. For this reason, and out of a sense of responsibility, I have decided to temporarily step away from my dedication to Mango, while maintaining connection to other family.
00:05:43
Speaker 3: Business and social projects.
00:05:45
Speaker 2: He says, I make this decision with sadness, but I am convinced that it is the best for the company and for me. I face this process with serenity and fortitude, and I need to concentrate all my energy on proving my inner That was a lengthy statement. That was it from top to bottom. And that's the first we have heard from him since his arrest. I can only imagine what these seven days of silence have felt like, reading the headlines and hearing all the people commenting on what they think happened versus what he knows happened.
00:06:22
Speaker 3: He was the only witness.
00:06:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, and lots being pieced together. There's a reason, people, it's not just coming from nowhere. But it took quite a while. Again, his father's death was a year and a half ago, and he's just now being hauled in and a lot of folks start to wonder why. And I guess we should explain why this has now come up again and what people are piecing together. Look at circumstantial evidence. There's no hard evidence of anything, but a lot of this stuff doesn't make sense.
00:06:50
Speaker 3: That's right.
00:06:51
Speaker 2: And because after the arrest and the court documents that were made public, the findings are right now, they don't look good. There are inconsistent statements according to the judge that Jonathan told police he only hiked one time in that mountain. GPS shows he was there three times the week before his father's death. There's a scuff mark on the ground that isn't consistent with a slip or a fall. The autopsy reports also suggest that Isaac and Itch went feet first. That isn't consistent with a trip or a fall.
00:07:28
Speaker 1: I don't understand that. I mean it could. I mean, people slip off a mountain all the time. You trip and fall forward, but there, we've been on steep slopes before. I don't understand how. I mean they see. I take them at their word, but just listening to that, Yeah, you take a wrong step, you slip, and you go straight down of deep embankment. I've seen that.
00:07:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like if you get too close to the edge you could lose your footing and fall feet first. But they were saying that the fall isn't consistent with a forward fall. But you know, I even actually feel like if you were pushed, wouldn't you fall forward? You know, obviously they know the scene and they've they've forensically been able to try to figure out at least piece together what they think the most likely scenario is. And they're saying the most likely scenario is not an accidental trip or fall, that instead it is a push. That scuff mark on the ground. They were saying it there was a deep indention, and that would imply that there was some sort of a force behind the fall that he would have that he appeared his body appeared to have been catapulted off the mountain, and that also wouldn't be consistent with a slip.
00:08:38
Speaker 3: It's very interesting. And then the big, big, big.
00:08:42
Speaker 2: Motive part of this well apparently, and they say that messages support this. Jonathan Anditch had just found out that his father Isaac was planning to make major changes to his will and that didn't sit well according to the judge, or at least that's the belief with son Jonathan, who stood to gain a lot of money.
00:09:05
Speaker 3: We're talking billions in the b.
00:09:07
Speaker 1: Oh God's again, that's circumstantial, but I mean, watch a lot of murder cases. Money is smack dab in the middle of the motive oftentimes, so and again it doesn't mean anything, doesn't prove anything, but a lot of this stuff is adding up, and I guess that's why police made the move they did. He is out on bail, he posted the million plus dollars and is out. But now he's got a lot of work to do and it's going to cost him probably a lot of money roads, not just in matter of a defense, but in a matter of pr you know, he's gotten the best firms and teams out there combating this thing right now.
00:09:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he has the full support of his company, Mango. So when we come back, we will tell you what Mango's official response was. Today they also released his statement, and we'll tell you what's next, because it's a little different in Spain than it is here in the United States about where this case goes from.
00:10:00
Speaker 3: Here and.
00:10:10
Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ. We are hearing for the very first time from forty five year old Jonathan Anditch, who up until today was the executive vice president of Mango. He of course, was the heir to his billionaire father's fortune. His father, Isaac Anditch, fell off a step cliff on a father son hike a year and a half ago. Initially was ruled an accident, but now last week Jonathan Andch was arrested on suspicion of homicide of murdering his father, and today, one week later, he has officially stepped down from his role as executive vice president, but with the support of his company.
00:10:54
Speaker 3: And that's of note. We see on the.
00:10:57
Speaker 2: Website today that they they quote chairman and chief executive Officer Tony Ruiz saying he has his utmost respect, understanding and support, and they just were letting the public know that they absolutely are behind Jonathan and Itch.
00:11:14
Speaker 3: They also express their gratitude.
00:11:15
Speaker 2: They say they're getting a lot of messages from people who are supporting Mango and supporting Jonathan. They wanted to think the public and their patrons for that, but they made it very clear. The members of the board of directors unanimously endorse Jonathan joined the Andach family in expressing support for him, and that has to mean something. The family is supporting him. He has two sisters. No one in the family is accusing him of doing anything wrong.
00:11:43
Speaker 1: The dad speaks volumes to me. We've seen things like this and the look. A lot of companies make a calculation to distance themselves even when there is a suspicion of wrongdoing or suggestion of wrongdoing from whoever the accused wrongdoer may be. But this is a guy, and this is a family. This is a name to tightly connected to Mango. To hear Mango distancing itself from the name, say the guy who founded the company his son. We got to kick him out to the curb. That can't be a good look. I don't know the calculation they're making here, and it might not be one. It might just simply be this is our guy, we love them, and we don't think we did it, and we will stand by him to the end.
00:12:27
Speaker 3: Could be that too, And look, billions developers are at stake.
00:12:30
Speaker 2: Though we know that we've mentioned this company and it was up I believe a year to year thirteen percent unheard of. We're reporting on brick and mortar stores shutting down, closing, having to suspend operations, having to tighten the budget. It's the opposite when it comes to this fast fashion chain. They are expanding and doing gangbusters. So yeah, this is not the kind of publicity they need or want. So it is a choice to support Jonathan in this look.
00:13:00
Speaker 1: Nobody in the US is going to stop going into a Mango store. However, Robes, what impression is this going to leave in all of Spain? How is this going to leave a stain on that family, which will leave a stain on that brand? And if it gets impacted there in Spain, it's going to get impacted everywhere else. So This is a big deal. There's a lot at stake beyond reputation and livelihood and somebody's ability to be free this I mean it would that's It's sad that the man passed the way he passed. Anyway, after building such a legacy, even if this was completely an accident, you don't want to see him go out like that. Yeah, but roves that think that legacy, Now what happens to it? He built this thing from think about it, some dude with T shirts running around just trying to make it. And he becomes a billionaire, and now this is It's sad.
00:13:45
Speaker 2: It's tough because look, I'm trying to imagine, say, Jonathan Anditch's innocent, which we have to assume, how awful would that be if on a father's son hike and you know that you are the heir, you know that you stand to inherit bills.
00:14:00
Speaker 3: You know how it looks.
00:14:02
Speaker 2: You know what people would have said even if they hadn't come forward and reopened the investigation and pointed the finger at him, you know, there would always be a cloud of suspicion hanging over you.
00:14:14
Speaker 1: That's weird, though, man, Just the circumstances and just the what are the chances, I mean, it's just a weird, weird story. Ros There's I wouldn't given all that was going on, I wouldn't want to be alone with my dad anywhere. I don't want anything to happen to him where somebody thinks I might be up to. So you've given all the money? Serious, Rods. I joke with you. Sometimes you fell and hurt yourself. There was a bruise on your arm. I said, please put a full shirt on, because I don't want anybody to think that. Maybe seriously, Babe, given some relationships and some things in the public and how things can be perceived, man, everybody probably already thought he was after his dad's money. Exactly right, Hey Dad, let's go on a hike together, just me and you.
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Speaker 2: The thing that exactly and the thing that and look, he was an avid hiker. But the thing that really really to me, it's interesting, The thing that makes it seem the most suspicious is the fact that he told police that he went on one hike on that mountain beforehand, and his phone puts him on that exact same hiking trail three times.
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Speaker 3: The week before. How do you explain.
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Speaker 1: That and I don't know when that interview was given. Maybe he was upset about the death of his dad and maybe he couldn't recall that thing. I will leave some room for I don't know when that interview is done and whatnot. But it's uh, have you ever been out there before? No is tough if you've been there that many times. That's the week before it. Maybe he'd been two years ago and didn't really remember, that's one thing, But we're talking a week before.
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Speaker 2: That's hard to explain. So here is We may find out those answers soon enough. This is an interesting process how they do it over there in Spain. So we saw the court's findings. You know, he has been arrested on suspicion, but he has not been formally charged. Whether or not he actually is formally charged depends on the next step. So Jonathan and Itch and his legal team now have the opportunity to respond to the court on the findings that they released.
00:16:19
Speaker 3: So they actually will get to.
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Speaker 2: Kind of present their own evidence in defense of Jonathan to refute what these investigation findings are. They could even call witnesses to back up Jonathan's side of the story, and they'll all present this to the court, to the judge, and then the judge, upon hearing the defense's argument to the court findings, the judge will then decide whether or not to formally charge Jonathan. So it's almost like a little mini trial before the trial. Have you ever like he gets an opportunity to not get charged.
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Speaker 1: Basically, well, it's kind of one of our It's like a preliminary hearing we have here in the US, which the judge still has that option, but it never happens.
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Speaker 2: Right the way it was described, it did seem like a very heightened, intense preliminary hearing. So anyway, there's no we don't.
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Speaker 3: Have a date on that yet.
00:17:11
Speaker 2: But once that happens, the judge will then be able to decide whether not to formally charge Jonathan or not. If he is formally charged with murder, then that will trigger a criminal jury trial, and I can only imagine that this will be the trial of the decade, at least there in Spain. And this will absolutely garner international attention given Mango and its reach.
00:17:37
Speaker 1: And even if he doesn't ultimately get charged and this all goes away, still this is going to be hanging over his head for a little bit, just the idea you were arrested, police thought you killed your dad, right if you didn't get charged for it. So it's almost one of those things you're a murderer. They just couldn't prove it like that follows you around kind of a thing.
00:17:56
Speaker 2: So it's a stain that never ever, you can't ever fully get rid of it. But I for Jonathan, at least for now, the fact that his two sisters are standing by him, the company is standing by him, the family is vigorously defending him, and he certainly will have an incredible amount of financial resources to defend himself, so he will have the best that money can buy. And we shall see how this all plays out in court in the coming weeks and months, and we will keep you updated on this developing story.
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Speaker 3: As always, we appreciate you listening to us. Everyone. I'm Amy Robock alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.