June 12, 2026
Love Island (EP 8): WTF Sincere And Bryce!
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RSS Feed The boys are making bad decisions, and multiple islanders are paying the price. First, Sincere goes from telling Mel he does NOT want to continue to explore bombshell Sol, and then proceeds strait to exploring Sol for more than an hour. Then Bryce decides to go from reassuring Trinity about their connection, to making a play for Kayda. In the process, he risks his bromance with Zach, his relationship with Trinity and potentially his ego with Kayda.
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00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Friday, June twelfth, and season eight of Love Island and episode eight is now in the books. He saw that last night, and the major takeaways two things one, Sincere, what the hell are you doing? And Bryce, what the hell are you doing with that? Welcome to this episode? Up, Amy and TJ. What were your takeaways from the episode?
00:00:29
Speaker 2: Well, those were two of the big ones.
00:00:32
Speaker 3: Sincere was not being sincere and look, he has every right to play the field and to test out other relationships. That's what they're there for. And yet when he was directly asked by mel he completely denied that he was still into soul.
00:00:48
Speaker 1: So Sincere was your takeaway? Anything else from the episode? On the whole we get for the win.
00:00:55
Speaker 3: He was my hero of the episode, saving Melanie from herself.
00:00:59
Speaker 2: That that was a big, big thing.
00:01:02
Speaker 3: And I guess ooh, just some trouble on the horizon for Kenzy.
00:01:08
Speaker 1: And Mel okay imagined Sincere and Bryce you said who? And mel just then.
00:01:15
Speaker 2: Kenzy and Case and Okay.
00:01:19
Speaker 1: My other takeaway, rogues is what what constitutes loyalty and commitment in friendships and relationships that have only been going on for a week and a half that was my I saw this happened everywhere, every second, every scene was about that, including Kensy and mel who you sit down and say, hey girl, I want to go talk to your man. Now. Now it's not about the game anymore. Now, it's not about what you got the right to do. It's your loyalty to me as a friend. That showed up everywhere last night, Rose. I loved it.
00:01:55
Speaker 3: It's interesting because does it matter? Should it matter how long you've been friends with someone or how long you've been in a relationship with someone. Don't morals still apply regardless? Aren't morals? Morals? Do they change based on how long you've been with someone? Shouldn't you still always act a certain way?
00:02:13
Speaker 1: See? I take the moral part of it out. How about just what you agreed to do? How about what you just said you would do? How about what you just looked Melanie in the eye and said you were going to be loyal and then you immediately got in her face and were not. If so, it's more so for me Robes, it's what is the understanding and agreement about loyalties?
00:02:39
Speaker 3: Well, I think you can't lie to someone's face. I don't think no matter where you are or what game you're playing. That's still never going to be an acceptable choice. And it's interesting to me that he made that choice knowing the world was watching, knowing that we were all going to see him moments later doing the exact opposite of what he just said he was going to, don't we And this is the beauty of the show.
00:03:02
Speaker 1: There's no crew around, there's no camera crew, there's nobody there. At some point they start to forget that every scene, in every shot, at some point they get comfortable and robes. Okay, let's start with Sincere. What the actual hell is he thinking?
00:03:17
Speaker 2: You know what, I want to like him, I really do.
00:03:20
Speaker 1: I see he finally grew on me last episode. Now now I'm I'm turned away from him.
00:03:26
Speaker 3: Look, and so we're assuming, if y'all are listening, y'all saw this all. So we don't have to get into the backstory, but to have Sincere and look, Melanie has her own issues. And by the way, all the takeaways are the big moments I got from the episode, all with one exception involved Melanie. She obviously is a lightning rod, but there she was, I have to say, being vulnerable and asking him to be real with her, to be straight with her. And she did say, look, if you want to go pursue her, do it, but I'm not gonna be waiting around for you. She did draw a line in the sand, and maybe that's why he just said, no, no, no, you're my first I want to be with you. And she said, do you want to pursue do you want to continue to explore a relationship with soul?
00:04:10
Speaker 2: And he said no.
00:04:13
Speaker 1: So that's my first question. I'll ask you. And this seems to be a part of the game. They bring in new people, So am I the thing we have somebody else came in? I want to explore it is that immediately disloyal to you or only just a part of the game. But feelings are involved. I understand that is the trick.
00:04:33
Speaker 3: That is the trick, and I think it depends on what each couple has decided. And look, I know, in order to try and be cool and stay open, everyone tells the other person, oh yeah, like I.
00:04:46
Speaker 2: Totally get it. You should explore.
00:04:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, But deep down inside, especially with some of these couples we see forming, I have to say, I think, especially on the female side, feelings are growing and they don't want to admit it, but it's true. And so even though they say, sure, do what you want to do. It hurts when you see somebody who you have just started having feelings for, who you're making out with, who you're sleeping next to, literally start flirting with another person right in front of your face, and in some cases kissing another person, and sincere one up there within seconds of telling her, no, I don't want to pursue soul. You thought he was pulling soul to break it off with her. You thought he was going straight from that conversation with Mel and saying, hey, look I've decided I'm gonna I'm gonna stay with Mel.
00:05:33
Speaker 2: I just wanted to give you that courtesy. That's not what happened.
00:05:36
Speaker 1: He made such a good point, first of all, about feelings. This is why I end up loving the show. Sorry, you'll lost me a few episodes with the kissing stuff, but they got me back Rogues because you bring it up again. You see people being human beings you can't help but be bothered and be hurt, and you see other people be bothered and hurt, and then they start to act out of who they really are. We all do that. We do, and we can't recognize it in ourselves. We see it play out right there, and it's just I just love those lessons. So yes, Ropes, I don't know what Sincere is doing. We should have known and this should have been a hint. When he was having that conversation with Melanie and she said yes or no? Do you what was the question? Do you want to pursue Yeah?
00:06:21
Speaker 2: And he said no and then she asked, like a follow up, like why why?
00:06:26
Speaker 1: Okay, Ropes, when she said yes or no? Do you want to pursue something with Soul the new bombshell, he was a lying like I could see in the way he responded. We all could He was a little I mean no, I mean you said I had to.
00:06:43
Speaker 2: And then she asked him again and then he started he.
00:06:45
Speaker 1: Started making a joke, started laughing about something else and kind of just distracted from that question. Ropes. He didn't want to say no. He wanted to say yes because that was the truth, because that was the truth.
00:06:57
Speaker 3: But the thing is he didn't even then hide Like moments later, he's up with Soul, laughing like all tucked in with her, all loved up and snuggled up with her, and laughing and then making out with her.
00:07:10
Speaker 2: And he was up there right in front of her.
00:07:12
Speaker 1: Who pulled him?
00:07:13
Speaker 2: That he pulled her? And so you thought that he was going to break it off.
00:07:16
Speaker 1: He was being a little serious, a little down, a little somber. I thought, oh wow, he is going to Actually I didn't think he should to be out honest, he had something with this young lady. They seemed to be cool. Why not see where it goes. But if he was going to break it off, he was convincing with Melanie. He was He was ultimately.
00:07:36
Speaker 3: Convincing, and so that's why she got so hurt. When he's up there, she and she even said, ten minutes, I'll give him a pass, twenty minutes, I'll give him a pass. Thirty minutes later, he's been up there for more than an hour and hasn't paid me.
00:07:49
Speaker 2: The time of day Bro.
00:07:50
Speaker 1: The time he had with Melanie, you could see her whole demeanor change and her react just relax when she got assurance.
00:07:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all want to assurance, but it has to be real.
00:08:03
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what he was doing. I really this. I am really confused. Last episode, I told you he's grown on me. I'm starting to like him. He had some funny little boy energy you talked about even that was growing on me. I was liking the hair fine. I was getting on board with sincere have no idea, this is a disaster. Yes.
00:08:22
Speaker 3: So then Mel goes at the end, she's she's hot, and I honestly, look, she has acted irrationally and passionately before, but I understood how she was feeling like I felt her. I related she wanted to go up there and pull him and say, what are you doing? You just said what you said to me, and you have been up there with that woman for how long? Doing what?
00:08:45
Speaker 1: Like?
00:08:46
Speaker 2: Really?
00:08:46
Speaker 3: And she wanted to go up there, and Casey stopped her, and I appreciated what he said.
00:08:52
Speaker 2: He said, I'm not going to let you go out like that.
00:08:56
Speaker 1: Okay, Casey's the hands down favorite.
00:08:58
Speaker 2: I fell a little more in love with him, and.
00:09:01
Speaker 1: We might have loved him since episode one. When he opened that door, nobody was behind it, and the way he reacted was just charming. Loving Casey. It's getting better. So we talked about that moment a lot. Robes and I. There were there were moments where some of the girls were reassuring Melanie and what was ever was already in her head kind of a thing.
00:09:24
Speaker 2: That's what us girls do.
00:09:25
Speaker 1: And I told you you this is why I say you gotta have a heterosexual guy in your group for perspective. There's just another side to it. And Casey has been great Robes stopping her in that moment. She was going to, yes, make an ugly scene, but she wasn't gonna be proud of what she was about to do.
00:09:45
Speaker 3: No, because when you make and look, we've all been there, and the moments we've stopped ourselves, we wake up the next morning saying, thank God. It's never a good idea to have a conversation when you're hot. It's just never gonna go well.
00:10:00
Speaker 1: And what ears I think?
00:10:01
Speaker 3: Now?
00:10:01
Speaker 1: I'm going to the word I hear you use often and it's always right on point. But what Sincere was doing was cruel and it felt even if it wasn't premeditated cruelty, it was something he had to be aware of. You cannot miss that. You can't be that inconsiderate. Look, people all made mistakes, We've all hurt people we love. We get it. This was something Robes to go from her to the other girl was one thing. That's bad enough to be up there an hour is even worse to be jumping around and having fun and snuggled up in front of her robes sincere, I don't know what happened.
00:10:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, because if that was his plan, he should have said, hey, look you're still my number one, and that could be true, but I got to go continue to see where this goes. And I hope you can understand, but if you can, I respect you enough to understand. But I want to tell you what I'm about to go do. It's so bizarre to me because it wasn't as if she wasn't going to find out, like he knew she was gonna know.
00:11:04
Speaker 2: So was he just kicking the can?
00:11:05
Speaker 3: Is he that immature that he just couldn't say it to her face but he'd rather just have her find out later because that made it easier for him to not have to confront her directly.
00:11:15
Speaker 1: I don't know a scenario that makes sense here, and.
00:11:18
Speaker 2: Maybe he did not make any sense.
00:11:20
Speaker 1: It could be a maturity issue. He's so scared to say something. I think that's what it is. Maybe scared to let the young lady sold down upstatairs as well. I'm saying, young lady, I hate bombshell for some reason. I hate called bombshell.
00:11:34
Speaker 2: But that's what he calls it.
00:11:35
Speaker 1: That's what it is. But this was that was a I'm worried about Sincere. I didn't like. I don't understand it.
00:11:41
Speaker 2: Baby, I didn't either.
00:11:43
Speaker 1: I say, Wow, here they go. Sincere and Melanie they've been through something. Wow, they're probably gonna be the leading couple after this.
00:11:53
Speaker 2: Just you wait.
00:11:54
Speaker 3: And then of course we got the wonderful Sincere metaphor about the three little pigs.
00:11:59
Speaker 1: But he couldn't.
00:12:00
Speaker 2: He didn't land it. He didn't land it.
00:12:02
Speaker 3: But it was about a shaky foundation, and he was talking about how he had a foundation with mel But then Diddy, I was confused whose home was which home? But he tried to make a three little pigs metaphor, and it was funny watching Nah it did not all right? So all right, we had a couple other big moments, and you mentioned Bryce. When we come back, let's talk about Bryce and what the hell he is stirring up? And welcome back everyone to the Love Island edition of Amy and TJ. We're talking about episode eight Thursday night, and I we have been huge fans, both of us, because I was just gonna say I, I'm like, no, I think you might even be a bigger Bryce fan than me.
00:12:54
Speaker 2: We've liked him because he's goofy, he's himself. It doesn't seem like he's putting on it, and it's just there's something endearing about him.
00:13:05
Speaker 3: And yet he sits there and once again you got a guy telling a girl who's trying to tell him touch me more, like feel me more, and she's wanting him to like her more, and he tells her, no, I do. You're my number one, You're my favorite girl. And then fast forward a few hours, sits her down and says, yeah, I'm gonna go check out Cada. And he has to go tell his boy his romance. Like his work husband, Zach, they're pals, they're thickest thieves. He has to go tell that dude, I'm gonna go after your girl. Hope you don't mind. First this should be said, Zach is probably my second favorite person. Casey and Zach ever come to New York. I gotta hang out with those fellas. Do Can I go to Bryce?
00:13:56
Speaker 1: The miscommunication between Bryce and Trinity, Yes, And we're seeing this so so differently to where they are seeing their relationship differently and what they're giving each other and why.
00:14:08
Speaker 3: And I think I think you and I have had this conversation because it's funny. I have never been a physical touch person, or at least I didn't think I was, and you and I had talked about that when we were friends. Maybe that got in your head. But when I'm with you, physical touch is my love language, and if you're not touching me, I'm worried. I start to think, oh, no, what's going on. He's upset. He must not be feeling it. And then maybe my body language and my energy shifts because now I'm feeling defensive or I'm thinking, oh, he's upset, what's going on?
00:14:41
Speaker 2: And then you're reading it like what's wrong with her?
00:14:43
Speaker 3: And that's I feel like, exactly what's going on with Bryce and Trinity.
00:14:47
Speaker 1: We've got years into this, they've got two weeks, so they're trying to figure that out right now, Trinity, that's our love language. She needs physical touch. She needs I think.
00:14:58
Speaker 2: Most women do with the they're into.
00:15:00
Speaker 3: If you're into a guy, you want him to touch you, and if you don't want the guy to touch you.
00:15:05
Speaker 2: I don't think you have the right guy.
00:15:07
Speaker 1: Does it get into someone's head if you're also that girl who is on a show where you spend ninety percent of the time in a bikini showing off just how hot you are and the guy you with is not touching yep.
00:15:16
Speaker 3: I think that absolutely would feel strange, especially when you're one of those girls. Let's be honest, they're all stunning and they're used to getting a lot of attention. So if the guy that they're with isn't giving them that attention, they're confused, concerned, and yes, maybe get defensive and a little two into their heads.
00:15:34
Speaker 1: Okay, So he wants to go talk to Kada, which he can do.
00:15:39
Speaker 3: Why now, and what's like, what signal has Kada ever given him?
00:15:45
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it.
00:15:46
Speaker 3: Maybe it's the editing, but he claims they've had eye contact that's given him some sort of indication that she might be into him. Zack laughed at him, like Zack actually laughed. He thought he was kidding.
00:15:58
Speaker 1: He was genuinely amused, because if there's any couple really robes that's like.
00:16:06
Speaker 3: Really solid, seems like it's Zach and Kata. There's no drama between them.
00:16:10
Speaker 1: They're not thinking about anybody else. There's nothing else to discuss. She doesn't go crazy when some bombshell comes in because she's.
00:16:17
Speaker 2: The hottest girl in the villa and she knows it, and.
00:16:21
Speaker 1: She probably thinks she's probably gonna remain and.
00:16:23
Speaker 2: So that's why she can.
00:16:25
Speaker 3: Let's just be honest, that's why she can remain so calm and cool.
00:16:28
Speaker 1: And she's got a calm and cool guy. He's chill. That's true. They're working right now. Why in God's name they were though, I just as you were talking, remembered when she came in she took those two? Did she not?
00:16:42
Speaker 3: Yes?
00:16:43
Speaker 2: She did, and that's why Bryce thinks he has a shot.
00:16:45
Speaker 3: But she very clearly turned her back towards him and were like, Sea, Bryce, I'm into Zach.
00:16:52
Speaker 2: She literally told why does he not?
00:16:55
Speaker 3: Because a woman a man says that's you, you will never try again. What is it about a guy who thinks, hey, I think that was a green light. That was a red light she gave him and he somehow thinks the door's open.
00:17:08
Speaker 1: He's a model from La a beautiful one.
00:17:11
Speaker 3: Was going to reject him, but now but literally he's ruining everything. He is gonna Obviously he's pissed off Trinity. Yep, he's pissed off Zach, and he's going to piss off and annoy Kada. He is going to lose three people who actually are on his side right now?
00:17:27
Speaker 2: What an idiot?
00:17:28
Speaker 1: I just I don't know what the loss.
00:17:30
Speaker 2: I mean, I know Kida's hot, but is it worth that?
00:17:32
Speaker 1: But she's booed up. Everybody can see she's good because of that. Robes, I think that, uh well, it was an equally bad error too sincere But Robes, this is your guy, you know he At this point, they are coupled up. They are going to do their thing. Why step into it to attempt to break it up? What is he doing?
00:17:57
Speaker 2: I you know, what?
00:17:58
Speaker 3: Can I ask a question? I'm curious what you think? I had a situation at work. I won't say who it was and in which network, But when someone's about when the microphone is off, but when someone's about to do something really crappy to you, okay, and they call you in and I've had this happen, and they tell you before they do it, that they're about to do it, and that somehow that.
00:18:23
Speaker 2: Makes it okay. That makes it moral.
00:18:26
Speaker 3: That makes it I'm supposed to accept it because you had the courtesy of telling me you were about to f me and screw me before you did it.
00:18:35
Speaker 1: Yes, it is worth something. It is worth something. The head's up is worse.
00:18:41
Speaker 2: I see this happening. It's so funny.
00:18:44
Speaker 3: When it happened to me several years ago, I was dumbfounded and I didn't know.
00:18:49
Speaker 2: How to feel. It still felt terrible.
00:18:52
Speaker 3: I wasn't as angry, but I kind of felt manipulated. And I don't know if that's fair, but that was just my personal experience when that happened to me, and.
00:19:00
Speaker 2: It was really it, and it felt like a betrayal. It was awful, to be honest.
00:19:04
Speaker 3: I don't know that it changed any It didn't change my emotions. It just made me feel It made me feel manipulated, like I didn't get to be angry because I wanted to be, but somehow I was told I shouldn't be because I was giving a heads up about it.
00:19:17
Speaker 1: No, No, I am going to the This is my only part of that scenario is if you had gotten screwed and didn't get a heads up about it and it just been surprised that would have been more explosive than you getting the heads up. I'm saying you getting the heads up, your reaction should have been explosive. Just down a little. No, it's the same if someone now that makes it even worse. Dumbfound it if someone says it to you acting as if you should be great. Correct.
00:19:46
Speaker 3: Okay, So that was my experience at work, and it was really actually pretty terrible. Maybe in that book we keep talking about how well write One day, I'll write the story. But I see that happening on Love Island. Literally, they think that it. They tell you ahead of time that somehow that makes you a good person and you shouldn't be upset because I'm doing the right thing. No, you're still screwing this. So I guess it's so fun that I immediately went to that place again. Love Island is amazing. There are little moments that you can relate to in whatever part of your life.
00:20:18
Speaker 2: And that landed for.
00:20:20
Speaker 3: Me, and I kept I keep seeing it happen and Bryce did that, and I was like, wow, I've been on the receiving end of it, and it is so awful because you don't even feel like you have the right to be upset.
00:20:30
Speaker 1: You do, You absolutely do, and I appreciate those moments I can't remember, but you know, I love people uncomfortable, and it's okay to call people on their bs. It's okay to call.
00:20:45
Speaker 2: When you're racially profiled at a TSA line.
00:20:47
Speaker 1: I am struggling in our travels lately, man.
00:20:50
Speaker 2: And you're like, Man, I'm sorry. You didn't ask anyone else in this line except for me. Why did you choose me?
00:20:57
Speaker 1: Okay, we're having a weird travel I mean, filed more and more now that I'm with you.
00:21:02
Speaker 2: Probably true. Oh and no one thinks we're together. Everyone always asks if we want separate checks every time.
00:21:07
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay we went sideways there, but anyway, but I didn't Melanie and and Kinsey kind of do this thing. Was was Melanie trying to give Kinsey a heads up that she had grabbed her guy.
00:21:19
Speaker 2: Yes, and Kenzie felt the same way she is.
00:21:23
Speaker 3: This is I'm watching this play out like somehow by giving people a courtesy, uh, like just letting you know I'm about to screw you. It is a weird feeling because you it's it's like an extra layer of the triple because you don't even get to feel what you feel.
00:21:41
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's weird. It's a strange thing.
00:21:43
Speaker 3: But so I'm watching it unfold and and I'm watching everyone react exactly the way I did when I had someone who I thought was my friend tell me just to heads up, I'm about to go screw you.
00:21:56
Speaker 1: This show, oh Man, just needed to get warmed up, get past those first four or fives.
00:22:01
Speaker 2: It's getting so good.
00:22:03
Speaker 1: Good to go now. But we'll be watching this evening's episode as well. We always appreciate you hanging with us from Amsterdam this time, and we'll still be able to catch.
00:22:13
Speaker 2: Yes because you were smart enough to get a vp AD.
00:22:17
Speaker 1: Tell everybody.
00:22:18
Speaker 2: Sorry, jeez I that was a secret.
00:22:20
Speaker 1: Oh I Christ Sorry, we'll talk to you also
Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Friday, June twelfth, and season eight of Love Island and episode eight is now in the books. He saw that last night, and the major takeaways two things one, Sincere, what the hell are you doing? And Bryce, what the hell are you doing with that? Welcome to this episode? Up, Amy and TJ. What were your takeaways from the episode?
00:00:29
Speaker 2: Well, those were two of the big ones.
00:00:32
Speaker 3: Sincere was not being sincere and look, he has every right to play the field and to test out other relationships. That's what they're there for. And yet when he was directly asked by mel he completely denied that he was still into soul.
00:00:48
Speaker 1: So Sincere was your takeaway? Anything else from the episode? On the whole we get for the win.
00:00:55
Speaker 3: He was my hero of the episode, saving Melanie from herself.
00:00:59
Speaker 2: That that was a big, big thing.
00:01:02
Speaker 3: And I guess ooh, just some trouble on the horizon for Kenzy.
00:01:08
Speaker 1: And Mel okay imagined Sincere and Bryce you said who? And mel just then.
00:01:15
Speaker 2: Kenzy and Case and Okay.
00:01:19
Speaker 1: My other takeaway, rogues is what what constitutes loyalty and commitment in friendships and relationships that have only been going on for a week and a half that was my I saw this happened everywhere, every second, every scene was about that, including Kensy and mel who you sit down and say, hey girl, I want to go talk to your man. Now. Now it's not about the game anymore. Now, it's not about what you got the right to do. It's your loyalty to me as a friend. That showed up everywhere last night, Rose. I loved it.
00:01:55
Speaker 3: It's interesting because does it matter? Should it matter how long you've been friends with someone or how long you've been in a relationship with someone. Don't morals still apply regardless? Aren't morals? Morals? Do they change based on how long you've been with someone? Shouldn't you still always act a certain way?
00:02:13
Speaker 1: See? I take the moral part of it out. How about just what you agreed to do? How about what you just said you would do? How about what you just looked Melanie in the eye and said you were going to be loyal and then you immediately got in her face and were not. If so, it's more so for me Robes, it's what is the understanding and agreement about loyalties?
00:02:39
Speaker 3: Well, I think you can't lie to someone's face. I don't think no matter where you are or what game you're playing. That's still never going to be an acceptable choice. And it's interesting to me that he made that choice knowing the world was watching, knowing that we were all going to see him moments later doing the exact opposite of what he just said he was going to, don't we And this is the beauty of the show.
00:03:02
Speaker 1: There's no crew around, there's no camera crew, there's nobody there. At some point they start to forget that every scene, in every shot, at some point they get comfortable and robes. Okay, let's start with Sincere. What the actual hell is he thinking?
00:03:17
Speaker 2: You know what, I want to like him, I really do.
00:03:20
Speaker 1: I see he finally grew on me last episode. Now now I'm I'm turned away from him.
00:03:26
Speaker 3: Look, and so we're assuming, if y'all are listening, y'all saw this all. So we don't have to get into the backstory, but to have Sincere and look, Melanie has her own issues. And by the way, all the takeaways are the big moments I got from the episode, all with one exception involved Melanie. She obviously is a lightning rod, but there she was, I have to say, being vulnerable and asking him to be real with her, to be straight with her. And she did say, look, if you want to go pursue her, do it, but I'm not gonna be waiting around for you. She did draw a line in the sand, and maybe that's why he just said, no, no, no, you're my first I want to be with you. And she said, do you want to pursue do you want to continue to explore a relationship with soul?
00:04:10
Speaker 2: And he said no.
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Speaker 1: So that's my first question. I'll ask you. And this seems to be a part of the game. They bring in new people, So am I the thing we have somebody else came in? I want to explore it is that immediately disloyal to you or only just a part of the game. But feelings are involved. I understand that is the trick.
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Speaker 3: That is the trick, and I think it depends on what each couple has decided. And look, I know, in order to try and be cool and stay open, everyone tells the other person, oh yeah, like I.
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Speaker 2: Totally get it. You should explore.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, But deep down inside, especially with some of these couples we see forming, I have to say, I think, especially on the female side, feelings are growing and they don't want to admit it, but it's true. And so even though they say, sure, do what you want to do. It hurts when you see somebody who you have just started having feelings for, who you're making out with, who you're sleeping next to, literally start flirting with another person right in front of your face, and in some cases kissing another person, and sincere one up there within seconds of telling her, no, I don't want to pursue soul. You thought he was pulling soul to break it off with her. You thought he was going straight from that conversation with Mel and saying, hey, look I've decided I'm gonna I'm gonna stay with Mel.
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Speaker 2: I just wanted to give you that courtesy. That's not what happened.
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Speaker 1: He made such a good point, first of all, about feelings. This is why I end up loving the show. Sorry, you'll lost me a few episodes with the kissing stuff, but they got me back Rogues because you bring it up again. You see people being human beings you can't help but be bothered and be hurt, and you see other people be bothered and hurt, and then they start to act out of who they really are. We all do that. We do, and we can't recognize it in ourselves. We see it play out right there, and it's just I just love those lessons. So yes, Ropes, I don't know what Sincere is doing. We should have known and this should have been a hint. When he was having that conversation with Melanie and she said yes or no? Do you what was the question? Do you want to pursue Yeah?
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Speaker 2: And he said no and then she asked, like a follow up, like why why?
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Speaker 1: Okay, Ropes, when she said yes or no? Do you want to pursue something with Soul the new bombshell, he was a lying like I could see in the way he responded. We all could He was a little I mean no, I mean you said I had to.
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Speaker 2: And then she asked him again and then he started he.
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Speaker 1: Started making a joke, started laughing about something else and kind of just distracted from that question. Ropes. He didn't want to say no. He wanted to say yes because that was the truth, because that was the truth.
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Speaker 3: But the thing is he didn't even then hide Like moments later, he's up with Soul, laughing like all tucked in with her, all loved up and snuggled up with her, and laughing and then making out with her.
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Speaker 2: And he was up there right in front of her.
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Speaker 1: Who pulled him?
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Speaker 2: That he pulled her? And so you thought that he was going to break it off.
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Speaker 1: He was being a little serious, a little down, a little somber. I thought, oh wow, he is going to Actually I didn't think he should to be out honest, he had something with this young lady. They seemed to be cool. Why not see where it goes. But if he was going to break it off, he was convincing with Melanie. He was He was ultimately.
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Speaker 3: Convincing, and so that's why she got so hurt. When he's up there, she and she even said, ten minutes, I'll give him a pass, twenty minutes, I'll give him a pass. Thirty minutes later, he's been up there for more than an hour and hasn't paid me.
00:07:49
Speaker 2: The time of day Bro.
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Speaker 1: The time he had with Melanie, you could see her whole demeanor change and her react just relax when she got assurance.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we all want to assurance, but it has to be real.
00:08:03
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what he was doing. I really this. I am really confused. Last episode, I told you he's grown on me. I'm starting to like him. He had some funny little boy energy you talked about even that was growing on me. I was liking the hair fine. I was getting on board with sincere have no idea, this is a disaster. Yes.
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Speaker 3: So then Mel goes at the end, she's she's hot, and I honestly, look, she has acted irrationally and passionately before, but I understood how she was feeling like I felt her. I related she wanted to go up there and pull him and say, what are you doing? You just said what you said to me, and you have been up there with that woman for how long? Doing what?
00:08:45
Speaker 1: Like?
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Speaker 2: Really?
00:08:46
Speaker 3: And she wanted to go up there, and Casey stopped her, and I appreciated what he said.
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Speaker 2: He said, I'm not going to let you go out like that.
00:08:56
Speaker 1: Okay, Casey's the hands down favorite.
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Speaker 2: I fell a little more in love with him, and.
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Speaker 1: We might have loved him since episode one. When he opened that door, nobody was behind it, and the way he reacted was just charming. Loving Casey. It's getting better. So we talked about that moment a lot. Robes and I. There were there were moments where some of the girls were reassuring Melanie and what was ever was already in her head kind of a thing.
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Speaker 2: That's what us girls do.
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Speaker 1: And I told you you this is why I say you gotta have a heterosexual guy in your group for perspective. There's just another side to it. And Casey has been great Robes stopping her in that moment. She was going to, yes, make an ugly scene, but she wasn't gonna be proud of what she was about to do.
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Speaker 3: No, because when you make and look, we've all been there, and the moments we've stopped ourselves, we wake up the next morning saying, thank God. It's never a good idea to have a conversation when you're hot. It's just never gonna go well.
00:10:00
Speaker 1: And what ears I think?
00:10:01
Speaker 3: Now?
00:10:01
Speaker 1: I'm going to the word I hear you use often and it's always right on point. But what Sincere was doing was cruel and it felt even if it wasn't premeditated cruelty, it was something he had to be aware of. You cannot miss that. You can't be that inconsiderate. Look, people all made mistakes, We've all hurt people we love. We get it. This was something Robes to go from her to the other girl was one thing. That's bad enough to be up there an hour is even worse to be jumping around and having fun and snuggled up in front of her robes sincere, I don't know what happened.
00:10:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, because if that was his plan, he should have said, hey, look you're still my number one, and that could be true, but I got to go continue to see where this goes. And I hope you can understand, but if you can, I respect you enough to understand. But I want to tell you what I'm about to go do. It's so bizarre to me because it wasn't as if she wasn't going to find out, like he knew she was gonna know.
00:11:04
Speaker 2: So was he just kicking the can?
00:11:05
Speaker 3: Is he that immature that he just couldn't say it to her face but he'd rather just have her find out later because that made it easier for him to not have to confront her directly.
00:11:15
Speaker 1: I don't know a scenario that makes sense here, and.
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Speaker 2: Maybe he did not make any sense.
00:11:20
Speaker 1: It could be a maturity issue. He's so scared to say something. I think that's what it is. Maybe scared to let the young lady sold down upstatairs as well. I'm saying, young lady, I hate bombshell for some reason. I hate called bombshell.
00:11:34
Speaker 2: But that's what he calls it.
00:11:35
Speaker 1: That's what it is. But this was that was a I'm worried about Sincere. I didn't like. I don't understand it.
00:11:41
Speaker 2: Baby, I didn't either.
00:11:43
Speaker 1: I say, Wow, here they go. Sincere and Melanie they've been through something. Wow, they're probably gonna be the leading couple after this.
00:11:53
Speaker 2: Just you wait.
00:11:54
Speaker 3: And then of course we got the wonderful Sincere metaphor about the three little pigs.
00:11:59
Speaker 1: But he couldn't.
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Speaker 2: He didn't land it. He didn't land it.
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Speaker 3: But it was about a shaky foundation, and he was talking about how he had a foundation with mel But then Diddy, I was confused whose home was which home? But he tried to make a three little pigs metaphor, and it was funny watching Nah it did not all right? So all right, we had a couple other big moments, and you mentioned Bryce. When we come back, let's talk about Bryce and what the hell he is stirring up? And welcome back everyone to the Love Island edition of Amy and TJ. We're talking about episode eight Thursday night, and I we have been huge fans, both of us, because I was just gonna say I, I'm like, no, I think you might even be a bigger Bryce fan than me.
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Speaker 2: We've liked him because he's goofy, he's himself. It doesn't seem like he's putting on it, and it's just there's something endearing about him.
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Speaker 3: And yet he sits there and once again you got a guy telling a girl who's trying to tell him touch me more, like feel me more, and she's wanting him to like her more, and he tells her, no, I do. You're my number one, You're my favorite girl. And then fast forward a few hours, sits her down and says, yeah, I'm gonna go check out Cada. And he has to go tell his boy his romance. Like his work husband, Zach, they're pals, they're thickest thieves. He has to go tell that dude, I'm gonna go after your girl. Hope you don't mind. First this should be said, Zach is probably my second favorite person. Casey and Zach ever come to New York. I gotta hang out with those fellas. Do Can I go to Bryce?
00:13:56
Speaker 1: The miscommunication between Bryce and Trinity, Yes, And we're seeing this so so differently to where they are seeing their relationship differently and what they're giving each other and why.
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Speaker 3: And I think I think you and I have had this conversation because it's funny. I have never been a physical touch person, or at least I didn't think I was, and you and I had talked about that when we were friends. Maybe that got in your head. But when I'm with you, physical touch is my love language, and if you're not touching me, I'm worried. I start to think, oh, no, what's going on. He's upset. He must not be feeling it. And then maybe my body language and my energy shifts because now I'm feeling defensive or I'm thinking, oh, he's upset, what's going on?
00:14:41
Speaker 2: And then you're reading it like what's wrong with her?
00:14:43
Speaker 3: And that's I feel like, exactly what's going on with Bryce and Trinity.
00:14:47
Speaker 1: We've got years into this, they've got two weeks, so they're trying to figure that out right now, Trinity, that's our love language. She needs physical touch. She needs I think.
00:14:58
Speaker 2: Most women do with the they're into.
00:15:00
Speaker 3: If you're into a guy, you want him to touch you, and if you don't want the guy to touch you.
00:15:05
Speaker 2: I don't think you have the right guy.
00:15:07
Speaker 1: Does it get into someone's head if you're also that girl who is on a show where you spend ninety percent of the time in a bikini showing off just how hot you are and the guy you with is not touching yep.
00:15:16
Speaker 3: I think that absolutely would feel strange, especially when you're one of those girls. Let's be honest, they're all stunning and they're used to getting a lot of attention. So if the guy that they're with isn't giving them that attention, they're confused, concerned, and yes, maybe get defensive and a little two into their heads.
00:15:34
Speaker 1: Okay, So he wants to go talk to Kada, which he can do.
00:15:39
Speaker 3: Why now, and what's like, what signal has Kada ever given him?
00:15:45
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it.
00:15:46
Speaker 3: Maybe it's the editing, but he claims they've had eye contact that's given him some sort of indication that she might be into him. Zack laughed at him, like Zack actually laughed. He thought he was kidding.
00:15:58
Speaker 1: He was genuinely amused, because if there's any couple really robes that's like.
00:16:06
Speaker 3: Really solid, seems like it's Zach and Kata. There's no drama between them.
00:16:10
Speaker 1: They're not thinking about anybody else. There's nothing else to discuss. She doesn't go crazy when some bombshell comes in because she's.
00:16:17
Speaker 2: The hottest girl in the villa and she knows it, and.
00:16:21
Speaker 1: She probably thinks she's probably gonna remain and.
00:16:23
Speaker 2: So that's why she can.
00:16:25
Speaker 3: Let's just be honest, that's why she can remain so calm and cool.
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Speaker 1: And she's got a calm and cool guy. He's chill. That's true. They're working right now. Why in God's name they were though, I just as you were talking, remembered when she came in she took those two? Did she not?
00:16:42
Speaker 3: Yes?
00:16:43
Speaker 2: She did, and that's why Bryce thinks he has a shot.
00:16:45
Speaker 3: But she very clearly turned her back towards him and were like, Sea, Bryce, I'm into Zach.
00:16:52
Speaker 2: She literally told why does he not?
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Speaker 3: Because a woman a man says that's you, you will never try again. What is it about a guy who thinks, hey, I think that was a green light. That was a red light she gave him and he somehow thinks the door's open.
00:17:08
Speaker 1: He's a model from La a beautiful one.
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Speaker 3: Was going to reject him, but now but literally he's ruining everything. He is gonna Obviously he's pissed off Trinity. Yep, he's pissed off Zach, and he's going to piss off and annoy Kada. He is going to lose three people who actually are on his side right now?
00:17:27
Speaker 2: What an idiot?
00:17:28
Speaker 1: I just I don't know what the loss.
00:17:30
Speaker 2: I mean, I know Kida's hot, but is it worth that?
00:17:32
Speaker 1: But she's booed up. Everybody can see she's good because of that. Robes, I think that, uh well, it was an equally bad error too sincere But Robes, this is your guy, you know he At this point, they are coupled up. They are going to do their thing. Why step into it to attempt to break it up? What is he doing?
00:17:57
Speaker 2: I you know, what?
00:17:58
Speaker 3: Can I ask a question? I'm curious what you think? I had a situation at work. I won't say who it was and in which network, But when someone's about when the microphone is off, but when someone's about to do something really crappy to you, okay, and they call you in and I've had this happen, and they tell you before they do it, that they're about to do it, and that somehow that.
00:18:23
Speaker 2: Makes it okay. That makes it moral.
00:18:26
Speaker 3: That makes it I'm supposed to accept it because you had the courtesy of telling me you were about to f me and screw me before you did it.
00:18:35
Speaker 1: Yes, it is worth something. It is worth something. The head's up is worse.
00:18:41
Speaker 2: I see this happening. It's so funny.
00:18:44
Speaker 3: When it happened to me several years ago, I was dumbfounded and I didn't know.
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Speaker 2: How to feel. It still felt terrible.
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Speaker 3: I wasn't as angry, but I kind of felt manipulated. And I don't know if that's fair, but that was just my personal experience when that happened to me, and.
00:19:00
Speaker 2: It was really it, and it felt like a betrayal. It was awful, to be honest.
00:19:04
Speaker 3: I don't know that it changed any It didn't change my emotions. It just made me feel It made me feel manipulated, like I didn't get to be angry because I wanted to be, but somehow I was told I shouldn't be because I was giving a heads up about it.
00:19:17
Speaker 1: No, No, I am going to the This is my only part of that scenario is if you had gotten screwed and didn't get a heads up about it and it just been surprised that would have been more explosive than you getting the heads up. I'm saying you getting the heads up, your reaction should have been explosive. Just down a little. No, it's the same if someone now that makes it even worse. Dumbfound it if someone says it to you acting as if you should be great. Correct.
00:19:46
Speaker 3: Okay, So that was my experience at work, and it was really actually pretty terrible. Maybe in that book we keep talking about how well write One day, I'll write the story. But I see that happening on Love Island. Literally, they think that it. They tell you ahead of time that somehow that makes you a good person and you shouldn't be upset because I'm doing the right thing. No, you're still screwing this. So I guess it's so fun that I immediately went to that place again. Love Island is amazing. There are little moments that you can relate to in whatever part of your life.
00:20:18
Speaker 2: And that landed for.
00:20:20
Speaker 3: Me, and I kept I keep seeing it happen and Bryce did that, and I was like, wow, I've been on the receiving end of it, and it is so awful because you don't even feel like you have the right to be upset.
00:20:30
Speaker 1: You do, You absolutely do, and I appreciate those moments I can't remember, but you know, I love people uncomfortable, and it's okay to call people on their bs. It's okay to call.
00:20:45
Speaker 2: When you're racially profiled at a TSA line.
00:20:47
Speaker 1: I am struggling in our travels lately, man.
00:20:50
Speaker 2: And you're like, Man, I'm sorry. You didn't ask anyone else in this line except for me. Why did you choose me?
00:20:57
Speaker 1: Okay, we're having a weird travel I mean, filed more and more now that I'm with you.
00:21:02
Speaker 2: Probably true. Oh and no one thinks we're together. Everyone always asks if we want separate checks every time.
00:21:07
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay we went sideways there, but anyway, but I didn't Melanie and and Kinsey kind of do this thing. Was was Melanie trying to give Kinsey a heads up that she had grabbed her guy.
00:21:19
Speaker 2: Yes, and Kenzie felt the same way she is.
00:21:23
Speaker 3: This is I'm watching this play out like somehow by giving people a courtesy, uh, like just letting you know I'm about to screw you. It is a weird feeling because you it's it's like an extra layer of the triple because you don't even get to feel what you feel.
00:21:41
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's weird. It's a strange thing.
00:21:43
Speaker 3: But so I'm watching it unfold and and I'm watching everyone react exactly the way I did when I had someone who I thought was my friend tell me just to heads up, I'm about to go screw you.
00:21:56
Speaker 1: This show, oh Man, just needed to get warmed up, get past those first four or fives.
00:22:01
Speaker 2: It's getting so good.
00:22:03
Speaker 1: Good to go now. But we'll be watching this evening's episode as well. We always appreciate you hanging with us from Amsterdam this time, and we'll still be able to catch.
00:22:13
Speaker 2: Yes because you were smart enough to get a vp AD.
00:22:17
Speaker 1: Tell everybody.
00:22:18
Speaker 2: Sorry, jeez I that was a secret.
00:22:20
Speaker 1: Oh I Christ Sorry, we'll talk to you also