July 8, 2026
Love Island (EP 31): Situationship Vs Exclusive Dating Vs Boyfriend/Girlfriend
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RSS Feed While the girls went off to play at a Fiji waterpark, the boys at the villa went to work setting up a scavenger hunt for K.C. to ask a very important question to Titi. Sure, it looked like the ladies had a blast, but there was growing tension between Kayda and Trinity: a heated back and forth played out throughout the episode on how to exactly define Zach and Kayda’s relationship, is it a situationship or not? The differing labels left Kayda in tears defending their “exclusive dating” status, while K.C. cut through all the label BS and asked Titi to be his girlfriend. It was an adorable girlfriend proposal that ended with Titi in tears of joy (along with the rest of America).
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Speaker 1: Hey that folks.
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Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, July eighth, and Love Island, Season eight, episode thirty one is in the books. And if this episode had a title to it, it should have been called why is Kada still crying? Why is Dylan still here? And why is k C back in our hearts? And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Rope.
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Speaker 1: Were you crying again? I was, you're crying again?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you fell asleep and I had no one to celebrate with. I was so there were tears of joy. It was so exciting. Yes, k C, he is now, he has worked his way back into our hearts. I think that was a really good way to put it. His vulnerability, the sweetness on his face, the authentic love and excitement and willingness to commit that he had written all over him was on full display. I thought it was beautiful.
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Speaker 1: Do you realize who you're talking about?
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Speaker 3: K C?
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Speaker 2: That five episodes ago you all wanted to take out to the woodshit?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely true?
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Speaker 2: And that is the beauty sometimes for this show Robes And that's the beauty, Yes, of seeing somebody at their worst and at their best.
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Speaker 1: It's all who he is.
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Speaker 2: Look, I don't feel I feel like some of them right now seem to be playing the game after they hear how America voted and whatnot. He doesn't come off as anything other than authentic right now. Maybe he's playing the game a little bit. But Robes, we have seen him at his best and at his worst, and both of them are extremes. Yeah, the good size is extreme due, it's.
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Speaker 3: True, but I also feel like, look, everyone, this actually plays right into the narrative that people love in this country and probably around the world. Where you've got somebody, they're flawed, they mess up, they fall down, they falter, and then they rise from the ashes and are redemptive, and that's exactly it seems like. Look, they're all part of case. But he's learning, he's growing, and it speaks to the impact and power that relationships have on people. What the wrong relationship will contribute to your energy and your life and your demeanor and how you act, and how the right relationship can actually change and bring out the best in you. And it's on full display. So, yes, we saw that full arc with KC and it's actually just been beautiful to watch and a lesson for all of us that don't be so quick to judge. Don't be so quick to say someone's bad. Don't be so quick to judge someone's character based on a specific situation that you don't know how you would act if you were in it.
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Speaker 2: I just hated folks are ready to throw them away, Just throw away somebody who exhibits, Yes, some pretty ugly, some pretty bad behavior, but roods, I am glad I didn't know. I don't know this guy and didn't have high hopes. But I'm saying in everything else we saw about him, there were things that I did recognize from I mean just guys I have known over the years, and why people were just we'd never seen that behavior before. This is how guys talk or whatever. It doesn't mean it's the end of the world or he is the worst person in the world, even though we can condemn the behavior ropes without throwing away the human being. And look, he's made a comeback to where you sabine every woman who was sitting on the couch with us robes and I'm the only dude sitting there. Man, y'all, I wish we had video. There was no way casey he could come back into you all's hearts and.
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Speaker 1: Here he is, you know what those were?
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Speaker 3: He he saw that behavior on movie night. I think it really resonated with him. It hit him hard when he saw what he looked like, he saw what he sounded like. He owned it and he made amend. And I think that was beautiful. And it was funny because I was trying to actually pull up the text that I got last night, me me dead ass crying about Casey and TT. That was so adorable. So yes, we've gone from not liking that couple at all when they walk back into the villa from Casa Amore to rooting for their long lasting love story. I want to see them get married and have kids. Like That's where I am right now. That's how beautiful this episode ended. But it began. There was a lot of speculation before last night's episode that someone was getting dumped, and not just anyone. People were convinced that Dylan and Kenzie were gone because people the sleuthing that is going on behind the scenes to try and figure out what's happening. There were a couple days ahead of us in Fiji before they air, and Dylan there was activity on his social media accounts. It appeared as if he had suddenly followed Islanders, Jaden, Sean and Zach. How could he have done that if he didn't have access to his phone. If he has access to his phone, he must have gotten dumped. None of it was true.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I people really really thought they knew how this was going to break down, and it I guess Robes, I was surprised at the idea that he if they knew he was on standby to come onto the show.
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Speaker 1: I was surprised to hear.
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Speaker 2: That he would have been able to play around in his phone that much if he was in waiting. But then on the other side of that, Robes, if he had just gotten kicked out, I'm pretty sure they would have said to him, pretty, you're not going to.
00:05:27
Speaker 1: Be able to fill. They wouldn't have let him have access to that because it would give it away.
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Speaker 3: So I feel like the producers are smart enough to know that people at home are smart enough to figure out when someone has activity on a phone they're not supposed to have access to that. That would mean something or it would point to an outcome on the show. So the idea now is people think, well, yeah, he was on his phone before he actually entered the villa, so he had already seen who some of the players were and had already followed them before he even got there.
00:05:56
Speaker 1: Son, Dylan, Still he's.
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Speaker 3: Still there, Christ Yeah, Dylan is still in the night.
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Speaker 2: Did he have last night? And again, as you said, I fell asleep last night late. I watched fully the episode this morning, Yes you did. Once again, Dylan is just I guess he's trying to come around and say I forgive you, Kinsey and we can move forward kind of a thing.
00:06:18
Speaker 1: But I don't get this guy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she said nothing different than she had said to him several nights in a row, but somehow it finally stuck with him and he was willing to move on and move forward. But look, the episode began with the girls getting a message. I believe it was a Naya, and she had to sneak and wake up all of the girls and get out of the villa without any of the boys noticing. I was shocked that the boys all slept that hard. None of them woke up.
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Speaker 1: I think they might have. This might have been some editing. None of them woke up.
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Speaker 3: Seven dudes, Yeah, you would have known if I got out of the bed.
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Speaker 2: Seven dudes, Yeah, okay, seven dudes didn't notice seven women. One out of the seven felt I think this might have been some editing, and that's fine.
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Speaker 1: And dandy, but you can't.
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Speaker 3: It was shocking to me.
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Speaker 1: They had to change.
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Speaker 3: They were actually crawling on the floor and then like quietly tiptoeing upstairs. And they kept showing the boys sleeping. It showed since you're sleeping like two hours past, the other guys no clue that Melanie had escaped the hideaway and went off. They went to a water park and fine, it was fun and exciting. While they were gone, Casey announces to the boys that he is going to ask t T to be his girlfriend, and so they set up a scot That also seemed very like how did they know that there was an opportunity? Now the girls are gone, so the boys can set up to scavenger hunt so that t T will be surprised when they come back and he can officially ask for to be the girlfriend. That was convenience.
00:07:48
Speaker 2: Is it this show that does scavenger hunts? I know, I've seen in some other shows just scavenger hunts.
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Speaker 3: I know it's the thing. It's fine, it worked, and yes, so while they're doing more drama, even though it seems like all the girls are getting along at this water park, the seeds are being planted, and it ended up with Kada just spiraling at the end of the show. But Trinity kept insisting Kada and Zach were in a situationship and that her announcement, which she announced everyone that they were now she and Zach were exclusively dating. Trinity was like, I'm sorry, why are you not just boyfriend and girlfriend? And there was a lot of questions, and that it kept going. The conversations happened where then Kada's talking to Kenzie, then she's talking back to Zach, and meantime Trinity's talking to other girls and they're all debating on whether or not they're in a situationship or in an exclusive dating situation. But it all stems from the fact that Zach just wouldn't go ahead and say we're boyfriend girlfriend.
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Speaker 2: She agreed to that as well. You questioned, you said she didn't really she just went along with it because of him, But she did say she was okay with it, to point that I was convinced that okay, she was okay with it.
00:09:02
Speaker 1: She hasn't been.
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Speaker 2: Shy about telling him she had a problem with something going on with it.
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Speaker 3: Correct, But this is about moving your relationship into another place, and you don't want to be seen as pushing a guy into a label or into a category of a relationship unless he's fully on board. So she's treading carefully. But to me, the fact that she ended up at the end of this episode crying, that shows that she is insecure about the relationship. She kept saying she doesn't care what other people say. That's hilarious. She absolutely cares what everyone's saying. That's why she was brought to tears. And then to have it culminate with Casey putting on this big, beautiful, amazing production of asking t T to be his girlfriend. That just was salt in the wound for Cada because now you've got people getting asked to be girlfriend boyfriend, and she's got the exclusive dating and she's trying to defend it. But deep down, she's a she's spiraling. She's insecure, there's no question that's going on. I felt for her, but she needs to calm down.
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Speaker 2: Oh she doesn't, And it's okay, bro, she just doesn't realize it's it's the way it's coming off. Yeah, so the rest of us, like you said, entitled, it's coming off as a little petty at times, it's coming off as mean at times, but you can recognize what you see in her robes is that this is someone who is trying to defend a decision she made that's not being received the same way by everybody else. And if she was confident in it, she'd be able to say, well, no, no, no, no, guys, this is what I'm doing and this is why. And she is is that this is insecurity one. Oh frickin' one. What's happening with Kaita? And it's and it is and everybody's liked her, but rotes her stock is falling this weekend. How she has not just my feelings are hurt. It's too bad that people aren't really thinking we're one of the favorites.
00:10:58
Speaker 1: It's no, no, no, no, Casey sucks.
00:11:00
Speaker 2: Well your relationship's bad over there, Well what about them? Over She's putting every down robes and it's coming.
00:11:07
Speaker 1: Off at this entitled.
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Speaker 2: Pretty girl, little miss popular in school who's upset that can't believe everybody doesn't like her, and she's lashing out at the rest of you who aren't as pretty or popular. I'm not saying this is who she is. We don't know what I'm saying. It gives that that's what it comes off, and nobody likes that.
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Speaker 3: Correct and I don't, and I know she doesn't recognize. I don't think she's a bad person at all. She seems like she does a good heart, and she's a girl's girl and all of that. But she actually at one point said to Zach that Trinity needed to get off her high horse, which to me that was the window into where she really is. She's jealous that Trinity got asked to be a girlfriend, and that Trinity and Bryce our boyfriend girlfriend, and she wants to act like she thinks that's moving too fast or isn't real because they haven't tested their relationship outside the villa. YadA YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA. Yeah, her crying, her getting defends if her now saying Trinity's on a high horse. That all spoke very loudly to the idea that yes, she is operating out of a defensive position and an insecure position, and I'm trying to actually feel some pity towards her instead of annoyance. Because she's suffering, but by her own hand.
00:12:20
Speaker 1: I do.
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Speaker 2: I feel sorry for her and your heart goes out to it, and there's empathy in what I'm recognizing with her, but it makes it difficult when she lashes out in the way in which she's doing it, and the high horse thing. I forgot about that. There is a sense right of we use the word entitlement, you say indulgent sometime. But it's almost like she's speaking like she's above Trinity, like nobody in here should have something better than me or mine. It's almost as nobody's as hot as I am, nobody has as good a relationship.
00:12:55
Speaker 1: As I am. It just it's feeding into that thing that Robes is.
00:13:02
Speaker 2: Wildly unattractive for a young lady who has been doing Gangbuster. She's been entertaining on this show. She's been fun on the show, and she's played it fairly well I think, and been authentic in her relationship. I think, But man, it's her her stock.
00:13:16
Speaker 3: I know.
00:13:16
Speaker 2: For me, Robes, I hate how she's going about it because she's putting you can't go after Trinity.
00:13:21
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you know what she's just calling it like she is. I have to say she didn't have Trinity, she didn't have to push maybe so hard because obviously it was upsetting Kada. But she was like, look, if it's good for you, it's great for me, but it ain't what you're saying. It is because her question, and I think she was saying this in defense of Cada in a way, like, don't be believing him. Then somehow you're just in this exclusive dating. If he's not willing to say, let's be boyfriend girlfriend, you should maybe have a guard up, You should maybe keep one eye open. You should maybe just be aware that there is a reason why he's not taking that next step. And I think she was saying it in defense of her to protect her, like, just recognize that he didn't ask you fully to be committed. He's stepped he took a step short of that.
00:14:09
Speaker 2: The Finn that we just had a debate about this a couple episodes ago. Women sometimes what they want to be supported if they're with their guy or against their guy. Right, And now she's with her guy and she's getting pushedback about it.
00:14:24
Speaker 3: She doesn't like it exactly. She doesn't feel like Trinity is supporting her. But I think a lot of women could look at it from the outside and say, actually, Trinity is supporting her. She is trying to warn her friend. Hey, there is a reason why he's not going to the boyfriend girlfriend, and you should just acknowledge that that's what she's trying to do, I think as a friend. But it's not being received that way.
00:14:49
Speaker 2: You guess say you say you see it from the outside because women are watching this, But if you were sitting in the position of Kaita, don't you think a lot of women's reaction would be the exact same. Yes, if you were sitting in the position of Trinity, wouldn't a lot of times your reaction be the exact same, like, come on, girl, come on. But I think I absolutely believe this Caada would have taken that advice differently if it was coming from a man. If one of the guys I agree with you and there I pulled her aside, she wouldn't feel any jealousy or judgment.
00:15:19
Speaker 1: But because it was.
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Speaker 2: Coming from even Trinity might have been the last person to give her that advice. Because Trinity is doing so well in her relationship, who are you to tell me? This whole thing broes plays out and it came out, and it's been coming out for two or three episodes with Kada, Yes, the worst of one.
00:15:35
Speaker 3: You mentioned the word judgment. She used that word. She felt judged, and so that is where people start to get defensive and start to lash out the girls. She said it to Zach, and Zach is not helping. Zach is playing the role of a female best friend, saying, you're right, I can't believe they'd do that. I thought she was your best friend. He's absolutely playing into this mindset because he knows he's the reason why she's upset. Actually she's let's just be she's actually upset that he didn't ask her to be his girlfriend, and so he knows he is the root cause of this. He created this weird thing about not wanting to take the full step and wanting it to just be a committed what did he call exclusive relationship, and even Bryce pushed back on him, like, dude, what is that? So Zach has created this new label that no one really understands. It's actually his fault that all of this is happening. So now instead of acknowledging it, he's like, Yeah, why tri did he say that?
00:16:30
Speaker 1: Yeah?
00:16:30
Speaker 3: Why would she do that? That doesn't seem right. Why aren't they supporting us?
00:16:34
Speaker 2: I knew that's where we were going to end up. This is all the man's I knew that's where we were going with this.
00:16:39
Speaker 1: It's all the man.
00:16:40
Speaker 3: No, he has every right to not want to be boyfriend girlfriend. He has every right not to take that full step. That is absolutely right. But that is the person. That is the thing she's most upset by. It's less about she's comparing her relationship to others.
00:16:57
Speaker 2: Which is what everybody does, right, everybody does that. I'm this is just one of those things robes. He was honest with her, Yes, honest with what he wanted, honest with how they wanted to move forward. Her reaction to his honesty can be whatever it wants to be. But after he is honest and you accept that as honesty, she's come back.
00:17:20
Speaker 1: And can he be taken to task for it?
00:17:24
Speaker 3: No, it's not. I'm actually not blaming him. He is being honest. I'm actually it's actually her fault. She wasn't honest with how she felt about his offer. She acted like she was cool with it, and she kind of was cool with it until she sees everybody else getting the elevated status and now she's not okay with it. But instead of getting mad at Zach or acknowledging that she actually wasn't really not getting mad at Zach. You can't get mad at him for how he feels. You can't get mad about him, at him about where he wants the relationship to be. But instead of actually acknowledging and expressing disappointment, she has to point the finger at someone else. That's what's happening. So I'm not blaming Zach, I really want to. I'm just saying he's feeding into her being mad at Trinity because he knows that will mean she's not actually upset about the status.
00:18:08
Speaker 2: We should have done another episode on this totally, because this now that thing is what sometimes we guys get confused about. How do you all want to be supported when you come home and say you ain't gonna believe what this woman said to me in the break room today, Like what are you supposed to do? Do you want some perspective? Or you said, ooh, I can't believe, don't tell me robes. She said, what right?
00:18:30
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what you want. It's what you want versus what you need. Okay, He's giving her what she wants, but it's probably not what she needs and that is a tough position to be in as a boyfriend, I will fully admit. Now, when we come back, we will tell you about Well, first of all, let's just talk about Casey and tt. I'm super excited about this. And the episode ended with a major vote that is going to absolutely have some significant impacts come Friday night. And we got the big old ties about one of our favorite episodes each season. Families are showing up to Fiji and welcome back everyone to our Love Island edition of Amy and TJ. And Yes, last night ended with just a beautiful love story. I mean, that's how I'm going to look at it. Casey and t T. I just thought, I know you weren't a big fan of the whole scavenger hunt thing, but it was an effort. He did what he could with what he had to work with there in Fiji, and at least it showed that he was putting thought and effort into it. And his facial expressions to me, that was where I just got chills and my heart was warm because you could just see it he was close to emotion multiple times because This was really hard for him. This was a departure for him. He said he had always promised commitment to other women and now for the first he was actually going to say it out loud and to finally commit to a woman. And I just thought it was beautiful because it really did seem and I do believe it was Sincere and I actually think these two have a real shot at a relationship outside of the villa.
00:20:19
Speaker 2: True, as far as compatibility goes, they are up there number one or number two, and number two might be Corbyn and Parmita, but they're gone now. But Rose, it means you, Sincere and Melanie, Keita and Zach, even Bryce and Trinery that we love on paper and in person. They are not necessarily compatible compatible. Everybody would argue that. But they are cute together and have found their compatibility, but you wouldn't say it initially. Case and TT Boom run out the jump. They hit it off and they have made since ever since.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was tough coming in because obviously one of America's sweethearts on this show is Anaya, So Anaya's hurt. That's a tough position for Casey and t T to come into. Knowing that a girl that everybody loves has been hurt by the fact that you just fell for another girl, and now here's that girl. That girl and Casey, Tt and k come came into this situation in a tough spot, so to see that their love and that their compatibility has absolutely been able to outshine any negativity about their relationship. Initially, I think that's pretty damn cool and speaks volumes about what we're witnessing and what we're seeing. And also those other couples. I didn't realize Zach lives in Australia and he doesn't even live in the same country as Cada, And you've got Trinity in Virginia and Bryce in La but t, T and kc are from the same place and they have everything working for them. Honestly, I was so in love with their love last night that I was thinking that I would absolutely consider voting for them to win the whole thing.
00:21:57
Speaker 2: Oh, it's them or Richman Trinity. Obviously it was nothing but Bryce and Trinity until two episodes ago.
00:22:06
Speaker 1: Who would make eb I wouldn't even.
00:22:09
Speaker 2: Consider voting for anybody else number one until now and rogues. If if you want to start rogues right, considering like, if you really are picking the couple you think is going to be okay, the couple has the best shot, why wouldn't you include in your criteria proximity to each other?
00:22:31
Speaker 3: It matters. Long distance relationships are really hard and rarely work. They can, but man, you add the public pressure, the publicity them getting back and reading all this stuff on social media that it can be incredibly divisive to a couple. We know, but to now not be in the same city as that person or in some cases in the same country as that person.
00:22:52
Speaker 1: Do you know any and Carl where they are.
00:22:54
Speaker 3: Where they're they're no, they're very different. And they were talking about it too. Carl's in Denver and has a home in or has a place to visit in Nantucket they were talking about. And she lives in Atlanta, so no one is closed it exactly for Melanie and Sincere I'm trying to remember.
00:23:12
Speaker 2: In Miami or something Florida, I think, so she worked at a shop in La.
00:23:16
Speaker 3: Did, Yeah, she's in La So everyone's long distance pretty much except for TT and KC. And so that's another reason why I feel like they have a really good shot at potentially winning, and we voted last night America voted last night as America. Yeah. Yeah, because they closed it off only two hours. I wish they kept it open for twenty four hours. I wish people who watched it the next morning like you did, were able to vote. But yes, they voted for who you want to see in the final four? And so who are your your four?
00:23:44
Speaker 2: Okay, already KCTT. You got Bryce in Trinity. They said you have to vote before it four or wouldn't count ye.
00:23:53
Speaker 1: Who am I missing? Obviously? Dylan is never going to get a vote to mine. And who's the.
00:23:58
Speaker 3: Karlin and Nya? And then you have sorry, you have Sincere and Melanie.
00:24:02
Speaker 1: Oh, just by the fault. How many are left?
00:24:04
Speaker 3: There are six? There are six couples?
00:24:06
Speaker 1: I believe, Well, who am I I'm missing? Somebody?
00:24:09
Speaker 3: It's Dylan and it's Carl and Anaya, it's Melanie and Sincere, it's Bryce and Trinity for sure, and it's Casey and T. So maybe we just have five couples. Is that? Who am I missing?
00:24:26
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I feel like we're missing.
00:24:28
Speaker 3: Okada and Zach l o L. That's the sixth couple.
00:24:32
Speaker 1: You know what? I would have to. I'd have to throw an Eye and Carl in there and take out Cad and Zach.
00:24:38
Speaker 3: No, but who are the no, there are two, So two couples, four people.
00:24:42
Speaker 2: I'm giving you who I'm taking out, versus giving you who I'm putting in. That's what we're getting confused.
00:24:46
Speaker 3: Oh you're voting. I thought we were voting for the final four people.
00:24:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, two couples. I'm the final four people, final four couples.
00:24:53
Speaker 3: I thought it was the final two couples. Am I crazy?
00:24:55
Speaker 1: They only have final four?
00:24:56
Speaker 3: Oh, final four couples. Oh you're right, I'm losing my mind. Okay, So we're getting out Kada and Zach, and we're taking out Kenzie and Dylan. So the four we would choose would be Carl and Aya. Begrudgingly, see, I would put Kida and Zach over Karl and Iya.
00:25:15
Speaker 2: That could change in a second, but I just like Anaya and Carl's a nice guy.
00:25:19
Speaker 1: Good luck guys.
00:25:20
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair, that's really it's not compatibility at all.
00:25:23
Speaker 3: That might be the only difference you and I have. Because I would pick Zach and Kada over Carl and Aya. Then we both agree that we would put obviously Trinity and Bryce, obviously Casey and t T and then the.
00:25:35
Speaker 1: Next Melanie and Sincere.
00:25:38
Speaker 3: Begrudgingly Melanie and Sincere.
00:25:41
Speaker 1: I feel like I am I'm contributing to a disaster.
00:25:45
Speaker 3: But they're so good now they're gonna get married and have kids.
00:25:48
Speaker 2: You forgot about that he proposed. It wasn't really a proposal. It was a step before the proposal, two steps before they do steps in their relationship.
00:25:55
Speaker 3: Here that he hasn't even asked her to be his girlfriend yet, No, he has not, he says. He says, he's inching that way. But then I loved Ian made a funny joke about getting being closed off right now. I forgot the comparison he made, but it was hilarious, Like, yeah, there is no such things like.
00:26:10
Speaker 1: Saying you're on a diet when you refrigerator is empty.
00:26:14
Speaker 3: I love that you just came up with that.
00:26:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, makes it. Yes.
00:26:17
Speaker 2: So to Jack and Cato's point, why say closed off at this point, because he's nobody else is coming in? Obviously he's closed off, closed off, So forget that exclusive is a step, Rhodes, it is a step. I could see their argument and he's everybody's giving him a hard time. I could see what he's talking about, what she's talking about. When you put that label on what you are, it comes with an expectation of family, of building something.
00:26:45
Speaker 1: We're going towards something.
00:26:46
Speaker 2: This means I got when we get out of here, I gotta get on a plane to Australia to see my boyfriend. That's a different pressure and as a different label, and it does rope signals something different going on.
00:26:57
Speaker 1: Between the two.
00:26:58
Speaker 2: It also signals it can signal wait a minute, why are we just stopping short? Why are we doing? Why are we not going to the next step? I see that. I don't have any problem with what they're doing. I have no problem with Trinity going wait, what the hell are y'all doing? But but, as Gabby Burnsteen says, ropes, if you get worked up by something somebody said to you, is not what they said or how they said, It's what's already inside of you.
00:27:23
Speaker 1: And she was.
00:27:24
Speaker 2: Already to your point, insecure and uncomfortable with something to.
00:27:29
Speaker 1: Where that set her off. In third episode in a row, she's in tears.
00:27:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is oh so true, And so we will see what happens on Thursday when the families show up to Fiji. Sometimes they have them show up the Zoom, but it looked like from the teas last night that those they have family members, they flew them to Fiji and the reaction is priceless. This is an awesome, awesome episode where you get to see the Islanders as as I hate to say this, but as human beings who have families and people who love them, and people who've been watching, and people who are support vording them and rooting for them. And they get to meet the significant others and that's always a big They let their relatives know how they feel about this person and then they say what they think. I mean, this has a huge impact on relationships going forward. So it's a it's a big, emotional, fun, celebratory episode that we're looking forward to.
00:28:18
Speaker 1: Okay again, Okay, what no? I just had another Kida moment.
00:28:24
Speaker 3: What was it?
00:28:25
Speaker 1: Just the crying and clapping that's all she does? Now?
00:28:28
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she does a lot of clapping.
00:28:30
Speaker 2: Why is every why does she for emphasis?
00:28:37
Speaker 3: It drives you crazy?
00:28:38
Speaker 1: I know a little bit. I understand, well, you know what.
00:28:41
Speaker 3: She might be gone as a Friday night, so you'll at least have Friday night, We're going to find out the results of America's.
00:28:49
Speaker 1: Vote, so they.
00:28:50
Speaker 3: Will have to dump two couples. I believe on Friday night, two couples are gone, and then Saturday and Sunday we have the final four couples.
00:28:57
Speaker 1: That's why she's freaking out Robes. She was already in the bottom too. That's why she is.
00:29:04
Speaker 3: She's spiraling, and she might know that for Zach not taking the full step of boyfriend and girlfriend, that could impact how America views them as a couple, which could impact their fate on the show.
00:29:18
Speaker 1: If she just stopped clapping, I might consider this.
00:29:21
Speaker 3: Just stop, all right, everybody. We always appreciate you listening to us. I made me robot alongside t J. Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey that folks.
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Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, July eighth, and Love Island, Season eight, episode thirty one is in the books. And if this episode had a title to it, it should have been called why is Kada still crying? Why is Dylan still here? And why is k C back in our hearts? And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Rope.
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Speaker 1: Were you crying again? I was, you're crying again?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you fell asleep and I had no one to celebrate with. I was so there were tears of joy. It was so exciting. Yes, k C, he is now, he has worked his way back into our hearts. I think that was a really good way to put it. His vulnerability, the sweetness on his face, the authentic love and excitement and willingness to commit that he had written all over him was on full display. I thought it was beautiful.
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Speaker 1: Do you realize who you're talking about?
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Speaker 3: K C?
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Speaker 2: That five episodes ago you all wanted to take out to the woodshit?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely true?
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Speaker 2: And that is the beauty sometimes for this show Robes And that's the beauty, Yes, of seeing somebody at their worst and at their best.
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Speaker 1: It's all who he is.
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Speaker 2: Look, I don't feel I feel like some of them right now seem to be playing the game after they hear how America voted and whatnot. He doesn't come off as anything other than authentic right now. Maybe he's playing the game a little bit. But Robes, we have seen him at his best and at his worst, and both of them are extremes. Yeah, the good size is extreme due, it's.
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Speaker 3: True, but I also feel like, look, everyone, this actually plays right into the narrative that people love in this country and probably around the world. Where you've got somebody, they're flawed, they mess up, they fall down, they falter, and then they rise from the ashes and are redemptive, and that's exactly it seems like. Look, they're all part of case. But he's learning, he's growing, and it speaks to the impact and power that relationships have on people. What the wrong relationship will contribute to your energy and your life and your demeanor and how you act, and how the right relationship can actually change and bring out the best in you. And it's on full display. So, yes, we saw that full arc with KC and it's actually just been beautiful to watch and a lesson for all of us that don't be so quick to judge. Don't be so quick to say someone's bad. Don't be so quick to judge someone's character based on a specific situation that you don't know how you would act if you were in it.
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Speaker 2: I just hated folks are ready to throw them away, Just throw away somebody who exhibits, Yes, some pretty ugly, some pretty bad behavior, but roods, I am glad I didn't know. I don't know this guy and didn't have high hopes. But I'm saying in everything else we saw about him, there were things that I did recognize from I mean just guys I have known over the years, and why people were just we'd never seen that behavior before. This is how guys talk or whatever. It doesn't mean it's the end of the world or he is the worst person in the world, even though we can condemn the behavior ropes without throwing away the human being. And look, he's made a comeback to where you sabine every woman who was sitting on the couch with us robes and I'm the only dude sitting there. Man, y'all, I wish we had video. There was no way casey he could come back into you all's hearts and.
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Speaker 1: Here he is, you know what those were?
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Speaker 3: He he saw that behavior on movie night. I think it really resonated with him. It hit him hard when he saw what he looked like, he saw what he sounded like. He owned it and he made amend. And I think that was beautiful. And it was funny because I was trying to actually pull up the text that I got last night, me me dead ass crying about Casey and TT. That was so adorable. So yes, we've gone from not liking that couple at all when they walk back into the villa from Casa Amore to rooting for their long lasting love story. I want to see them get married and have kids. Like That's where I am right now. That's how beautiful this episode ended. But it began. There was a lot of speculation before last night's episode that someone was getting dumped, and not just anyone. People were convinced that Dylan and Kenzie were gone because people the sleuthing that is going on behind the scenes to try and figure out what's happening. There were a couple days ahead of us in Fiji before they air, and Dylan there was activity on his social media accounts. It appeared as if he had suddenly followed Islanders, Jaden, Sean and Zach. How could he have done that if he didn't have access to his phone. If he has access to his phone, he must have gotten dumped. None of it was true.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I people really really thought they knew how this was going to break down, and it I guess Robes, I was surprised at the idea that he if they knew he was on standby to come onto the show.
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Speaker 1: I was surprised to hear.
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Speaker 2: That he would have been able to play around in his phone that much if he was in waiting. But then on the other side of that, Robes, if he had just gotten kicked out, I'm pretty sure they would have said to him, pretty, you're not going to.
00:05:27
Speaker 1: Be able to fill. They wouldn't have let him have access to that because it would give it away.
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Speaker 3: So I feel like the producers are smart enough to know that people at home are smart enough to figure out when someone has activity on a phone they're not supposed to have access to that. That would mean something or it would point to an outcome on the show. So the idea now is people think, well, yeah, he was on his phone before he actually entered the villa, so he had already seen who some of the players were and had already followed them before he even got there.
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Speaker 1: Son, Dylan, Still he's.
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Speaker 3: Still there, Christ Yeah, Dylan is still in the night.
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Speaker 2: Did he have last night? And again, as you said, I fell asleep last night late. I watched fully the episode this morning, Yes you did. Once again, Dylan is just I guess he's trying to come around and say I forgive you, Kinsey and we can move forward kind of a thing.
00:06:18
Speaker 1: But I don't get this guy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she said nothing different than she had said to him several nights in a row, but somehow it finally stuck with him and he was willing to move on and move forward. But look, the episode began with the girls getting a message. I believe it was a Naya, and she had to sneak and wake up all of the girls and get out of the villa without any of the boys noticing. I was shocked that the boys all slept that hard. None of them woke up.
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Speaker 1: I think they might have. This might have been some editing. None of them woke up.
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Speaker 3: Seven dudes, Yeah, you would have known if I got out of the bed.
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Speaker 2: Seven dudes, Yeah, okay, seven dudes didn't notice seven women. One out of the seven felt I think this might have been some editing, and that's fine.
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Speaker 1: And dandy, but you can't.
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Speaker 3: It was shocking to me.
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Speaker 1: They had to change.
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Speaker 3: They were actually crawling on the floor and then like quietly tiptoeing upstairs. And they kept showing the boys sleeping. It showed since you're sleeping like two hours past, the other guys no clue that Melanie had escaped the hideaway and went off. They went to a water park and fine, it was fun and exciting. While they were gone, Casey announces to the boys that he is going to ask t T to be his girlfriend, and so they set up a scot That also seemed very like how did they know that there was an opportunity? Now the girls are gone, so the boys can set up to scavenger hunt so that t T will be surprised when they come back and he can officially ask for to be the girlfriend. That was convenience.
00:07:48
Speaker 2: Is it this show that does scavenger hunts? I know, I've seen in some other shows just scavenger hunts.
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Speaker 3: I know it's the thing. It's fine, it worked, and yes, so while they're doing more drama, even though it seems like all the girls are getting along at this water park, the seeds are being planted, and it ended up with Kada just spiraling at the end of the show. But Trinity kept insisting Kada and Zach were in a situationship and that her announcement, which she announced everyone that they were now she and Zach were exclusively dating. Trinity was like, I'm sorry, why are you not just boyfriend and girlfriend? And there was a lot of questions, and that it kept going. The conversations happened where then Kada's talking to Kenzie, then she's talking back to Zach, and meantime Trinity's talking to other girls and they're all debating on whether or not they're in a situationship or in an exclusive dating situation. But it all stems from the fact that Zach just wouldn't go ahead and say we're boyfriend girlfriend.
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Speaker 2: She agreed to that as well. You questioned, you said she didn't really she just went along with it because of him, But she did say she was okay with it, to point that I was convinced that okay, she was okay with it.
00:09:02
Speaker 1: She hasn't been.
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Speaker 2: Shy about telling him she had a problem with something going on with it.
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Speaker 3: Correct, But this is about moving your relationship into another place, and you don't want to be seen as pushing a guy into a label or into a category of a relationship unless he's fully on board. So she's treading carefully. But to me, the fact that she ended up at the end of this episode crying, that shows that she is insecure about the relationship. She kept saying she doesn't care what other people say. That's hilarious. She absolutely cares what everyone's saying. That's why she was brought to tears. And then to have it culminate with Casey putting on this big, beautiful, amazing production of asking t T to be his girlfriend. That just was salt in the wound for Cada because now you've got people getting asked to be girlfriend boyfriend, and she's got the exclusive dating and she's trying to defend it. But deep down, she's a she's spiraling. She's insecure, there's no question that's going on. I felt for her, but she needs to calm down.
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Speaker 2: Oh she doesn't, And it's okay, bro, she just doesn't realize it's it's the way it's coming off. Yeah, so the rest of us, like you said, entitled, it's coming off as a little petty at times, it's coming off as mean at times, but you can recognize what you see in her robes is that this is someone who is trying to defend a decision she made that's not being received the same way by everybody else. And if she was confident in it, she'd be able to say, well, no, no, no, no, guys, this is what I'm doing and this is why. And she is is that this is insecurity one. Oh frickin' one. What's happening with Kaita? And it's and it is and everybody's liked her, but rotes her stock is falling this weekend. How she has not just my feelings are hurt. It's too bad that people aren't really thinking we're one of the favorites.
00:10:58
Speaker 1: It's no, no, no, no, Casey sucks.
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Speaker 2: Well your relationship's bad over there, Well what about them? Over She's putting every down robes and it's coming.
00:11:07
Speaker 1: Off at this entitled.
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Speaker 2: Pretty girl, little miss popular in school who's upset that can't believe everybody doesn't like her, and she's lashing out at the rest of you who aren't as pretty or popular. I'm not saying this is who she is. We don't know what I'm saying. It gives that that's what it comes off, and nobody likes that.
00:11:27
Speaker 3: Correct and I don't, and I know she doesn't recognize. I don't think she's a bad person at all. She seems like she does a good heart, and she's a girl's girl and all of that. But she actually at one point said to Zach that Trinity needed to get off her high horse, which to me that was the window into where she really is. She's jealous that Trinity got asked to be a girlfriend, and that Trinity and Bryce our boyfriend girlfriend, and she wants to act like she thinks that's moving too fast or isn't real because they haven't tested their relationship outside the villa. YadA YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA. Yeah, her crying, her getting defends if her now saying Trinity's on a high horse. That all spoke very loudly to the idea that yes, she is operating out of a defensive position and an insecure position, and I'm trying to actually feel some pity towards her instead of annoyance. Because she's suffering, but by her own hand.
00:12:20
Speaker 1: I do.
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Speaker 2: I feel sorry for her and your heart goes out to it, and there's empathy in what I'm recognizing with her, but it makes it difficult when she lashes out in the way in which she's doing it, and the high horse thing. I forgot about that. There is a sense right of we use the word entitlement, you say indulgent sometime. But it's almost like she's speaking like she's above Trinity, like nobody in here should have something better than me or mine. It's almost as nobody's as hot as I am, nobody has as good a relationship.
00:12:55
Speaker 1: As I am. It just it's feeding into that thing that Robes is.
00:13:02
Speaker 2: Wildly unattractive for a young lady who has been doing Gangbuster. She's been entertaining on this show. She's been fun on the show, and she's played it fairly well I think, and been authentic in her relationship. I think, But man, it's her her stock.
00:13:16
Speaker 3: I know.
00:13:16
Speaker 2: For me, Robes, I hate how she's going about it because she's putting you can't go after Trinity.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, you know what she's just calling it like she is. I have to say she didn't have Trinity, she didn't have to push maybe so hard because obviously it was upsetting Kada. But she was like, look, if it's good for you, it's great for me, but it ain't what you're saying. It is because her question, and I think she was saying this in defense of Cada in a way, like, don't be believing him. Then somehow you're just in this exclusive dating. If he's not willing to say, let's be boyfriend girlfriend, you should maybe have a guard up, You should maybe keep one eye open. You should maybe just be aware that there is a reason why he's not taking that next step. And I think she was saying it in defense of her to protect her, like, just recognize that he didn't ask you fully to be committed. He's stepped he took a step short of that.
00:14:09
Speaker 2: The Finn that we just had a debate about this a couple episodes ago. Women sometimes what they want to be supported if they're with their guy or against their guy. Right, And now she's with her guy and she's getting pushedback about it.
00:14:24
Speaker 3: She doesn't like it exactly. She doesn't feel like Trinity is supporting her. But I think a lot of women could look at it from the outside and say, actually, Trinity is supporting her. She is trying to warn her friend. Hey, there is a reason why he's not going to the boyfriend girlfriend, and you should just acknowledge that that's what she's trying to do, I think as a friend. But it's not being received that way.
00:14:49
Speaker 2: You guess say you say you see it from the outside because women are watching this, But if you were sitting in the position of Kaita, don't you think a lot of women's reaction would be the exact same. Yes, if you were sitting in the position of Trinity, wouldn't a lot of times your reaction be the exact same, like, come on, girl, come on. But I think I absolutely believe this Caada would have taken that advice differently if it was coming from a man. If one of the guys I agree with you and there I pulled her aside, she wouldn't feel any jealousy or judgment.
00:15:19
Speaker 1: But because it was.
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Speaker 2: Coming from even Trinity might have been the last person to give her that advice. Because Trinity is doing so well in her relationship, who are you to tell me? This whole thing broes plays out and it came out, and it's been coming out for two or three episodes with Kada, Yes, the worst of one.
00:15:35
Speaker 3: You mentioned the word judgment. She used that word. She felt judged, and so that is where people start to get defensive and start to lash out the girls. She said it to Zach, and Zach is not helping. Zach is playing the role of a female best friend, saying, you're right, I can't believe they'd do that. I thought she was your best friend. He's absolutely playing into this mindset because he knows he's the reason why she's upset. Actually she's let's just be she's actually upset that he didn't ask her to be his girlfriend, and so he knows he is the root cause of this. He created this weird thing about not wanting to take the full step and wanting it to just be a committed what did he call exclusive relationship, and even Bryce pushed back on him, like, dude, what is that? So Zach has created this new label that no one really understands. It's actually his fault that all of this is happening. So now instead of acknowledging it, he's like, Yeah, why tri did he say that?
00:16:30
Speaker 1: Yeah?
00:16:30
Speaker 3: Why would she do that? That doesn't seem right. Why aren't they supporting us?
00:16:34
Speaker 2: I knew that's where we were going to end up. This is all the man's I knew that's where we were going with this.
00:16:39
Speaker 1: It's all the man.
00:16:40
Speaker 3: No, he has every right to not want to be boyfriend girlfriend. He has every right not to take that full step. That is absolutely right. But that is the person. That is the thing she's most upset by. It's less about she's comparing her relationship to others.
00:16:57
Speaker 2: Which is what everybody does, right, everybody does that. I'm this is just one of those things robes. He was honest with her, Yes, honest with what he wanted, honest with how they wanted to move forward. Her reaction to his honesty can be whatever it wants to be. But after he is honest and you accept that as honesty, she's come back.
00:17:20
Speaker 1: And can he be taken to task for it?
00:17:24
Speaker 3: No, it's not. I'm actually not blaming him. He is being honest. I'm actually it's actually her fault. She wasn't honest with how she felt about his offer. She acted like she was cool with it, and she kind of was cool with it until she sees everybody else getting the elevated status and now she's not okay with it. But instead of getting mad at Zach or acknowledging that she actually wasn't really not getting mad at Zach. You can't get mad at him for how he feels. You can't get mad about him, at him about where he wants the relationship to be. But instead of actually acknowledging and expressing disappointment, she has to point the finger at someone else. That's what's happening. So I'm not blaming Zach, I really want to. I'm just saying he's feeding into her being mad at Trinity because he knows that will mean she's not actually upset about the status.
00:18:08
Speaker 2: We should have done another episode on this totally, because this now that thing is what sometimes we guys get confused about. How do you all want to be supported when you come home and say you ain't gonna believe what this woman said to me in the break room today, Like what are you supposed to do? Do you want some perspective? Or you said, ooh, I can't believe, don't tell me robes. She said, what right?
00:18:30
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what you want. It's what you want versus what you need. Okay, He's giving her what she wants, but it's probably not what she needs and that is a tough position to be in as a boyfriend, I will fully admit. Now, when we come back, we will tell you about Well, first of all, let's just talk about Casey and tt. I'm super excited about this. And the episode ended with a major vote that is going to absolutely have some significant impacts come Friday night. And we got the big old ties about one of our favorite episodes each season. Families are showing up to Fiji and welcome back everyone to our Love Island edition of Amy and TJ. And Yes, last night ended with just a beautiful love story. I mean, that's how I'm going to look at it. Casey and t T. I just thought, I know you weren't a big fan of the whole scavenger hunt thing, but it was an effort. He did what he could with what he had to work with there in Fiji, and at least it showed that he was putting thought and effort into it. And his facial expressions to me, that was where I just got chills and my heart was warm because you could just see it he was close to emotion multiple times because This was really hard for him. This was a departure for him. He said he had always promised commitment to other women and now for the first he was actually going to say it out loud and to finally commit to a woman. And I just thought it was beautiful because it really did seem and I do believe it was Sincere and I actually think these two have a real shot at a relationship outside of the villa.
00:20:19
Speaker 2: True, as far as compatibility goes, they are up there number one or number two, and number two might be Corbyn and Parmita, but they're gone now. But Rose, it means you, Sincere and Melanie, Keita and Zach, even Bryce and Trinery that we love on paper and in person. They are not necessarily compatible compatible. Everybody would argue that. But they are cute together and have found their compatibility, but you wouldn't say it initially. Case and TT Boom run out the jump. They hit it off and they have made since ever since.
00:20:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was tough coming in because obviously one of America's sweethearts on this show is Anaya, So Anaya's hurt. That's a tough position for Casey and t T to come into. Knowing that a girl that everybody loves has been hurt by the fact that you just fell for another girl, and now here's that girl. That girl and Casey, Tt and k come came into this situation in a tough spot, so to see that their love and that their compatibility has absolutely been able to outshine any negativity about their relationship. Initially, I think that's pretty damn cool and speaks volumes about what we're witnessing and what we're seeing. And also those other couples. I didn't realize Zach lives in Australia and he doesn't even live in the same country as Cada, And you've got Trinity in Virginia and Bryce in La but t, T and kc are from the same place and they have everything working for them. Honestly, I was so in love with their love last night that I was thinking that I would absolutely consider voting for them to win the whole thing.
00:21:57
Speaker 2: Oh, it's them or Richman Trinity. Obviously it was nothing but Bryce and Trinity until two episodes ago.
00:22:06
Speaker 1: Who would make eb I wouldn't even.
00:22:09
Speaker 2: Consider voting for anybody else number one until now and rogues. If if you want to start rogues right, considering like, if you really are picking the couple you think is going to be okay, the couple has the best shot, why wouldn't you include in your criteria proximity to each other?
00:22:31
Speaker 3: It matters. Long distance relationships are really hard and rarely work. They can, but man, you add the public pressure, the publicity them getting back and reading all this stuff on social media that it can be incredibly divisive to a couple. We know, but to now not be in the same city as that person or in some cases in the same country as that person.
00:22:52
Speaker 1: Do you know any and Carl where they are.
00:22:54
Speaker 3: Where they're they're no, they're very different. And they were talking about it too. Carl's in Denver and has a home in or has a place to visit in Nantucket they were talking about. And she lives in Atlanta, so no one is closed it exactly for Melanie and Sincere I'm trying to remember.
00:23:12
Speaker 2: In Miami or something Florida, I think, so she worked at a shop in La.
00:23:16
Speaker 3: Did, Yeah, she's in La So everyone's long distance pretty much except for TT and KC. And so that's another reason why I feel like they have a really good shot at potentially winning, and we voted last night America voted last night as America. Yeah. Yeah, because they closed it off only two hours. I wish they kept it open for twenty four hours. I wish people who watched it the next morning like you did, were able to vote. But yes, they voted for who you want to see in the final four? And so who are your your four?
00:23:44
Speaker 2: Okay, already KCTT. You got Bryce in Trinity. They said you have to vote before it four or wouldn't count ye.
00:23:53
Speaker 1: Who am I missing? Obviously? Dylan is never going to get a vote to mine. And who's the.
00:23:58
Speaker 3: Karlin and Nya? And then you have sorry, you have Sincere and Melanie.
00:24:02
Speaker 1: Oh, just by the fault. How many are left?
00:24:04
Speaker 3: There are six? There are six couples?
00:24:06
Speaker 1: I believe, Well, who am I I'm missing? Somebody?
00:24:09
Speaker 3: It's Dylan and it's Carl and Anaya, it's Melanie and Sincere, it's Bryce and Trinity for sure, and it's Casey and T. So maybe we just have five couples. Is that? Who am I missing?
00:24:26
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I feel like we're missing.
00:24:28
Speaker 3: Okada and Zach l o L. That's the sixth couple.
00:24:32
Speaker 1: You know what? I would have to. I'd have to throw an Eye and Carl in there and take out Cad and Zach.
00:24:38
Speaker 3: No, but who are the no, there are two, So two couples, four people.
00:24:42
Speaker 2: I'm giving you who I'm taking out, versus giving you who I'm putting in. That's what we're getting confused.
00:24:46
Speaker 3: Oh you're voting. I thought we were voting for the final four people.
00:24:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, two couples. I'm the final four people, final four couples.
00:24:53
Speaker 3: I thought it was the final two couples. Am I crazy?
00:24:55
Speaker 1: They only have final four?
00:24:56
Speaker 3: Oh, final four couples. Oh you're right, I'm losing my mind. Okay, So we're getting out Kada and Zach, and we're taking out Kenzie and Dylan. So the four we would choose would be Carl and Aya. Begrudgingly, see, I would put Kida and Zach over Karl and Iya.
00:25:15
Speaker 2: That could change in a second, but I just like Anaya and Carl's a nice guy.
00:25:19
Speaker 1: Good luck guys.
00:25:20
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair, that's really it's not compatibility at all.
00:25:23
Speaker 3: That might be the only difference you and I have. Because I would pick Zach and Kada over Carl and Aya. Then we both agree that we would put obviously Trinity and Bryce, obviously Casey and t T and then the.
00:25:35
Speaker 1: Next Melanie and Sincere.
00:25:38
Speaker 3: Begrudgingly Melanie and Sincere.
00:25:41
Speaker 1: I feel like I am I'm contributing to a disaster.
00:25:45
Speaker 3: But they're so good now they're gonna get married and have kids.
00:25:48
Speaker 2: You forgot about that he proposed. It wasn't really a proposal. It was a step before the proposal, two steps before they do steps in their relationship.
00:25:55
Speaker 3: Here that he hasn't even asked her to be his girlfriend yet, No, he has not, he says. He says, he's inching that way. But then I loved Ian made a funny joke about getting being closed off right now. I forgot the comparison he made, but it was hilarious, Like, yeah, there is no such things like.
00:26:10
Speaker 1: Saying you're on a diet when you refrigerator is empty.
00:26:14
Speaker 3: I love that you just came up with that.
00:26:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, makes it. Yes.
00:26:17
Speaker 2: So to Jack and Cato's point, why say closed off at this point, because he's nobody else is coming in? Obviously he's closed off, closed off, So forget that exclusive is a step, Rhodes, it is a step. I could see their argument and he's everybody's giving him a hard time. I could see what he's talking about, what she's talking about. When you put that label on what you are, it comes with an expectation of family, of building something.
00:26:45
Speaker 1: We're going towards something.
00:26:46
Speaker 2: This means I got when we get out of here, I gotta get on a plane to Australia to see my boyfriend. That's a different pressure and as a different label, and it does rope signals something different going on.
00:26:57
Speaker 1: Between the two.
00:26:58
Speaker 2: It also signals it can signal wait a minute, why are we just stopping short? Why are we doing? Why are we not going to the next step? I see that. I don't have any problem with what they're doing. I have no problem with Trinity going wait, what the hell are y'all doing? But but, as Gabby Burnsteen says, ropes, if you get worked up by something somebody said to you, is not what they said or how they said, It's what's already inside of you.
00:27:23
Speaker 1: And she was.
00:27:24
Speaker 2: Already to your point, insecure and uncomfortable with something to.
00:27:29
Speaker 1: Where that set her off. In third episode in a row, she's in tears.
00:27:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is oh so true, And so we will see what happens on Thursday when the families show up to Fiji. Sometimes they have them show up the Zoom, but it looked like from the teas last night that those they have family members, they flew them to Fiji and the reaction is priceless. This is an awesome, awesome episode where you get to see the Islanders as as I hate to say this, but as human beings who have families and people who love them, and people who've been watching, and people who are support vording them and rooting for them. And they get to meet the significant others and that's always a big They let their relatives know how they feel about this person and then they say what they think. I mean, this has a huge impact on relationships going forward. So it's a it's a big, emotional, fun, celebratory episode that we're looking forward to.
00:28:18
Speaker 1: Okay again, Okay, what no? I just had another Kida moment.
00:28:24
Speaker 3: What was it?
00:28:25
Speaker 1: Just the crying and clapping that's all she does? Now?
00:28:28
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she does a lot of clapping.
00:28:30
Speaker 2: Why is every why does she for emphasis?
00:28:37
Speaker 3: It drives you crazy?
00:28:38
Speaker 1: I know a little bit. I understand, well, you know what.
00:28:41
Speaker 3: She might be gone as a Friday night, so you'll at least have Friday night, We're going to find out the results of America's.
00:28:49
Speaker 1: Vote, so they.
00:28:50
Speaker 3: Will have to dump two couples. I believe on Friday night, two couples are gone, and then Saturday and Sunday we have the final four couples.
00:28:57
Speaker 1: That's why she's freaking out Robes. She was already in the bottom too. That's why she is.
00:29:04
Speaker 3: She's spiraling, and she might know that for Zach not taking the full step of boyfriend and girlfriend, that could impact how America views them as a couple, which could impact their fate on the show.
00:29:18
Speaker 1: If she just stopped clapping, I might consider this.
00:29:21
Speaker 3: Just stop, all right, everybody. We always appreciate you listening to us. I made me robot alongside t J. Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.